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Speaker 2: So the fifteen to the ten, He's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Slam to the ground by Fuda Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 2: It is game week, gentlemen, which means two things. One,

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Speaker 2: preseason is upon us. The pre first preseason game coming

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Speaker 2: up on Friday. It is also a signal that's training

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Speaker 2: camp powered by Cox is nearing a conclusion, at least

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Speaker 2: here at State Farm Stadium. Cardinals will have a training

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Speaker 2: camp schedule next week, but that will be in Tempee.

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Speaker 2: But yes, we have reached the points, Kyle and the

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Speaker 2: amounts of practices coming up Day eleven that players are

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Speaker 2: tired of hitting one another and they're just looking for

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Speaker 2: a different colored uniform across the light of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's like that every year. You know, you

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Speaker 4: get to this point in camp and you've been banging heads.

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Speaker 4: You try to do things on a daily basis to

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Speaker 4: figure out the guy across from you how to beat him.

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Speaker 4: It's time to compete against other guys. It's time to

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Speaker 4: get the pads popping, it's time to show and you

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Speaker 4: know what, this preseason feels so much different than last

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Speaker 4: preseason in a number of ways. It felt like last year,

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Speaker 4: for the most part, everybody had their jobs and maybe

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Speaker 4: there was like five or six guys that were competing

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Speaker 4: for spots at the bottom of the roster. Here, you

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Speaker 4: just don't know, you don't know, you know, how which

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Speaker 4: which of these guys are gonna make the roster, Which

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Speaker 4: ones are gonna be counted on to contribute. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of excitement about this rookie

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Speaker 4: class and seeing what they can offer and how they

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Speaker 4: can add value to the team this year. So it's

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to, you know, finally see them compete on

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Speaker 4: a bigger stage and against another team.

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Speaker 2: We don't yet know, Paul, how much, if any, the

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Speaker 2: starters will play on Friday, but there are forty eight

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Speaker 2: new players versus a year ago that I'm sure would

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Speaker 2: like to get some kind of rep to stand out

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Speaker 2: on film. We do know the Broncos are going to

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Speaker 2: play their starters between fifteen and eighteen snaps. According to

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, that's including Russell Wilson's So all right, Sean Payton,

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Speaker 2: who called Nathaniel Hackett's coaching job one of the worst

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Speaker 2: in NFL history and then said he's doing everything the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Guess what.

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Speaker 3: Those Broncos starters basically did not play the entirety of

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Speaker 3: last year, including Russell Wilson, didn't take his first snap

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Speaker 3: until the season opener. And what happened to that Broncos team.

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Speaker 3: They immediately got injured. I mean some of the most

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Speaker 3: So I think there really is something to getting a

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Speaker 3: team calloused. And we've seen on the full pad, full

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Speaker 3: contact days, We've seen enough velocity, but nothing is like

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Speaker 3: an actual game, even a fake game, a preseason game,

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Speaker 3: because let's face it, nobody's going to the ground, So okay,

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Speaker 3: what is the caliber of the tackling. You're gonna find

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Speaker 3: out on Friday night, how regular season ready is the tackling.

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Speaker 3: It probably won't be good at least in the first half,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll see it'll get progressively better in the

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Speaker 2: It's not just the players, there are twenty three new

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Speaker 2: day operations, how it's going to work, not only on

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Speaker 2: a'll get started on Friday again, the Cardinals hosting the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Seven pm is the kickoff. Pregame coverage begins

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Speaker 2: here on Arizona Cardinals Radio Network at three thirty. Hope

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Speaker 2: to see at least for a or two smaller series,

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Speaker 2: basically that fifteen to eighteen snaps, those first unit, whether

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Speaker 6: That was actually one of the first things that asked me.

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Speaker 2: Simmons reminded us that he was offered by Clemson as

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Speaker 4: you know, we've seen him go sideline to sideline before.

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Speaker 4: We've seen him close on receivers or running backs on screens.

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Speaker 4: And when he gets there and he gets that head

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Speaker 3: And we saw a little bit of that in the

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Speaker 3: he excels in space that when he's in the box,

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Speaker 3: at times. You got to get that consistency out of him.

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Speaker 3: And if you can take away some of the thinking

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Speaker 2: I think that last point less on Simmons's plate as

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Speaker 2: different players learn playbooks and schemes differently, but closer to

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Speaker 2: It's more of a reaction and I think that's where

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Speaker 4: His skill set well and just hearing him talk about

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Speaker 4: it felt shuffled around, felt like he was moved out

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Buddha Baker, his thoughts on now seeing

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Speaker 7: Him being a safety, he has to understand what the

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Speaker 7: You know. I always talk about us having you know,

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Speaker 3: And look, this is a big year for Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 2: His fifth year option was not picked up, doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: But you want to make sure that you're contributing, making plays,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna see number nine on the football field quite

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Speaker 3: The known and unknown. We know he's an unbelievable elite athlete.

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Speaker 3: The unknown is where does he fit? What's his position?

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Speaker 3: fifth year option I presume wasn't picked up. They still

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Speaker 3: have to decide that he has to prove that. They

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Speaker 3: safety configuration that Buddha Baker talked about is if there

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Speaker 3: it's got to be cornerback. Right at the very least.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of inexperience between Key Troll Clark

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Speaker 3: So what do Jalen Thompson, Buddha Baker and Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 2: Radio Network. Hey, Episode sixty of the day Patch podcast

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Speaker 3: On the other side, it is the Cardinals red sewer.

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Speaker 2: Look at Marlon.

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Speaker 2: here to the Cardinals Red sewerport presented by Seekik your

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Speaker 2: ticket the Great Seats. Marlon Mack with the Cardinals lates

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Speaker 2: last week, got his first practice in over the weekend

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Speaker 2: during the Red and White practice, Greg Real, Lou Paul

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Speaker 2: Cardinals running backs coach Autrey Dunson joining us here and

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Speaker 2: first off, welcome to the show. Second of all, watching

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Speaker 3: I mean he did. He looked like Chris Johnson running

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Speaker 8: I think it was a combination of both. I think

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Speaker 3: All right, so how wide open is this running back

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Speaker 8: Every running back feels like they can play wide receiver anyway,

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Speaker 8: that when you can run the ball, it makes everybody's

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Speaker 8: life easier. So you obviously win the game is established

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Speaker 8: a winning loss up front, So obviously it's an emphasis there.

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Speaker 8: But when you look at the offensive line and the

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Speaker 8: job they're doing, and when you look at the backs

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Speaker 8: that we have, I mean, you'd be crazy not to

445
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Speaker 8: at least, you know, try to see what we can do.

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Speaker 8: So we're really going to emphasize it. We're seeing right

447
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Speaker 8: now how that can go. But again, football one on

448
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Speaker 8: one is if you can turn around and hand it,

449
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Speaker 8: it's a lot safer than having to throw it. And

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Speaker 8: then when you do throw it, it usually opens up

451
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Speaker 8: bigger windows.

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Speaker 3: You brought up the offensive line from your vantage points,

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Speaker 3: How well are those five individuals gelling and opening up

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Speaker 3: the rushing lanes for your group?

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Speaker 5: Oh, they're doing a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's who they do all the they do

457
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Speaker 8: all the heavy lifting, right, we get the headlines, they

458
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Speaker 8: do the heavy lifting. So I'm always very appreciative of

459
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Speaker 8: those guys. Coach Adams coach Cook, those guys are doing

460
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Speaker 8: a phenomenal job of getting movement, and our job is

461
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Speaker 8: to make sure when we get to that next level

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Speaker 8: that we win our one on ones and we extend

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Speaker 8: the play. To me, as I tell the guys is

464
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Speaker 8: that the runs don't start until we encounter the first

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Speaker 8: level of resistance. Right, So everything the line gets us,

466
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Speaker 8: it's icing on the cake. We gotta put our lunch pail.

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Speaker 8: We have to put our work in when we get

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Speaker 8: past that.

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Speaker 3: So Autry Denson, here's here's my big picture zoom out

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Speaker 3: question the running back position. We just saw this conference

471
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Speaker 3: call amongst some of the elite running backs, right, and

472
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Speaker 3: trying to figure out, okay, why is our market value

473
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Speaker 3: behind some other positions. What would be your response to that?

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Speaker 3: And what the future is of the running back position?

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Speaker 8: You know, it is always going to be a very

476
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Speaker 8: important position. And I already tell you the way I

477
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Speaker 8: see backs being a running back in the way that

478
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Speaker 8: you just see the game there we will always have

479
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Speaker 8: a place. I think that my faith tells me just

480
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Speaker 8: to you know, put in the work, be faithful to

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Speaker 8: where we are from regards to just the process, and

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Speaker 8: everything will take care of itself.

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Speaker 3: Do you think what you said earlier? The NFL is

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Speaker 3: a passing league. And I actually google that up earlier

485
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Speaker 3: looking for a little research. Do you know there were

486
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Speaker 3: headlines in twenty eleven, in twenty twelve the NFL is

487
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Speaker 3: a passing league. So, but those teams that can just

488
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Speaker 3: singularly pass the ball usually don't fare that well. You

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Speaker 3: have to have that balanced offense to really succeed, don't you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it comes back to at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: if you want to be one of the last two

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Speaker 8: teams standing, you have to have balance, right. You have

493
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Speaker 8: to be able to play defense, you have to be

494
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Speaker 8: able to run and pass the ball at the same time.

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Speaker 8: And so that's who we want to be, and so

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Speaker 8: that'll be the go.

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Speaker 2: Ardrey Jensen Denson joining us here on the Cardinals reread

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Speaker 2: to report I brought up Notre Damn. I've got to

499
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Speaker 2: bring it up because you still hold the school record

500
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Speaker 2: for rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. But now you're coaching it.

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Speaker 2: Has there been a difficult transition. I know you've been

502
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Speaker 2: doing it for a while, but when typically you see

503
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Speaker 2: when you're so successful athletically, and also, let me try

504
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Speaker 2: to teach that to someone else, it becomes harder to

505
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Speaker 2: get what you want to get across because you're like, well,

506
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Speaker 2: I'll just do it this way.

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Speaker 3: That's what I did. Why can't you get it? Has

508
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Speaker 3: there been an adjustment few of the.

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Speaker 8: Years, It hasn't. First, you have to realize that coaching

510
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Speaker 8: for me is ministry. I only got into coaching after

511
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Speaker 8: I accepted my call to go in the ministry, so

512
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Speaker 8: that's how I actually got back into it. And two,

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Speaker 8: I actually I'm just very very blessed that I played

514
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Speaker 8: with guys that made me actually look better than I was.

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Speaker 8: So I was just a really hard worker. I think

516
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Speaker 8: I had some talent, but everything about me was just

517
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Speaker 8: hard work and just being blessed to play with some

518
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Speaker 8: really good guys. So I don't see it as if

519
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Speaker 8: I did something so great. I think the best thing

520
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Speaker 8: about it is that it's a team goal, and so

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Speaker 8: I still can share that with the guys I talked to.

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Speaker 8: But I'm not I wasn't that good, So I don't

523
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Speaker 8: think that it was that hard to transition. That's just

524
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Speaker 8: my opinion.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: So you spent the last four years as a head

527
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Speaker 3: coach at Charleston Southern Yes, What was the best part

528
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Speaker 3: about that? What was the worst part? I don't know.

529
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Speaker 3: What do you miss? What do you don't miss about

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Speaker 3: being a head coach?

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Speaker 8: The best part about it was the ability to actually

532
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Speaker 8: run a football ministry right to where I was able

533
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Speaker 8: to leave with my faith and just really really just

534
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Speaker 8: sow into guys in their lives and you know, make

535
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Speaker 8: sure that the guys were graduating and developing from a

536
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Speaker 8: holistic standpoint. What I love about it was my background

537
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Speaker 8: was Power five and Notre Dame and if you know

538
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Speaker 8: anything about Charston Southern, they don't have Power five or

539
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Speaker 8: Notre Dame budgets, and so we had to be very

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Speaker 8: creative that I had to be able to create that

541
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Speaker 8: environment for those guys without having the resources. And I'm

542
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Speaker 8: a little messed up like that. So it was fun.

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Speaker 8: The kids were amazed. I mean, the things that we

544
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Speaker 8: were able to expose them to. They just the stuff

545
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Speaker 8: you take for granted. Man, you really saw a lot

546
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Speaker 8: of appreciation. So I just love serving and I just

547
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Speaker 8: really enjoyed being able to develop those young people.

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Speaker 2: Life in the college game versus life in the NFL game.

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Speaker 2: I know, you have a limited amount of experience at

550
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Speaker 2: the NFL level with Indianapolis way back in the day.

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Speaker 2: But Sarah, something that is still kind of You're.

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Speaker 3: Like, you're big guys. You're like you're just starting wandering,

553
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Speaker 3: Like wow, that's okay. That's a little bit different about

554
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Speaker 3: used to think, you know what.

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Speaker 8: The just the quality of life in the NFL is

556
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Speaker 8: so different, man, and the abilities to just you develop

557
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Speaker 8: your guys. But it is all bald, right, And so

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Speaker 8: I laugh with my wife all the time, and I

559
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Speaker 8: am so thankful. I will go wherever guy wants me

560
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Speaker 8: to be, but I'm praying he keeps me in the

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Speaker 8: NFL college right now.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you just I don't have to worry about grades.

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Speaker 8: I don't have to worry about parents calling me. I

565
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Speaker 8: don't have to worry about somebody doing something silly in

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Speaker 8: the dorm. It is night and day just from a

567
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Speaker 8: management standpoint, and all your time goes into Now. People

568
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Speaker 8: tend to think that relationships aren't as important, and I

569
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Speaker 8: would say that's not true. They are much deeper. It

570
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Speaker 8: as equally deep here. It's just we're talking about different things.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're talking about life, we're talking about marriage,

572
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Speaker 8: were talking about kids. So it's not necessarily the same conversation,

573
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Speaker 8: but it's as equally important. I mean, I think you

574
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Speaker 8: you win and lose with people, and I think as

575
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Speaker 8: long as we're dealing with each other, it's a contact sport.

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Speaker 8: It's relationships that you have to earn the right for

577
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Speaker 8: people to trust you.

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Speaker 3: What have you learned about the Cardinals head coach so far?

579
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Speaker 3: Johnathan Ganny? That's this third time you've laughed. What I

580
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: mentioned to me, is it the intensity? We had Josh

581
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Speaker 3: Woods in here and he said sometimes he looks again,

582
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Speaker 3: He's like, man, that intensity, yeah, so deep.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, j G's funny ma because I love him. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know what, it was such a blessing because I

585
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 8: didn't know much about him, and after one phone called,

586
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Speaker 8: I was like, man, we have about so much of

587
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Speaker 8: the same stuff. But his intensity is he'll be in

588
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Speaker 8: a good move, he'll be yelling at him and you

589
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 8: can see their face like is he happy?

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Speaker 5: Is this a compliment?

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Speaker 8: He just he does a good job of just having

592
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Speaker 8: a situational awareness and just knowing what we need. And

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Speaker 8: so the guys really responded. It's been really positive.

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Speaker 3: We've noticed players are on edge because they're not exactly

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Speaker 3: sure what the head coach is thinking he's a tough read,

596
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Speaker 3: isn't he?

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Speaker 5: That isn't a bad deal. That is not a bad

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Speaker 5: deal being on age.

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Speaker 2: We'll leave us with this because we can't let you

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Speaker 2: get out of here without at least a story or two.

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Speaker 2: And we know he listens. But once upon a time,

602
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Speaker 2: way back in the day, y'all date your pertrd Barry,

603
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Speaker 2: but teammate with be trained at Notre Dame, wore that

604
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Speaker 2: Cardinals uniform for a long time, played very very well.

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Speaker 2: It's difficult, it maybe for you to say something nice

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Speaker 2: about the former teammates.

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Speaker 8: You know what, man, Bert is such a great guy.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you something funny. I'll give you two

609
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Speaker 8: quick ones. So one is that Burt Berry and Alan

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Speaker 8: rossall thank God for them because I'm a Florida kid,

611
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Speaker 8: was committed to Florida State. I didn't know what Notre

612
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Speaker 8: Dame was, and going on the recruiting visit there and

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Speaker 8: having you hear coaches say things all the time, but

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Speaker 8: having your peers say things like, hey man, this is

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Speaker 8: where you like. They want you at a Florida State.

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Speaker 8: We need you at Notre Dame. Right, And here's what

617
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Speaker 8: it's going to look like though it's going to be

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Speaker 8: really really hard. Academically, it's going to be really challenging.

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Speaker 8: But when we get through this together, our next forty

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Speaker 8: years will be like that much better. So to hit

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Speaker 8: that from another eighteen year old, it really made a difference.

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Speaker 8: And obviously I went there flip side of that. So

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Speaker 8: when Bert was playing, he went to the NFL, went

624
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Speaker 8: to the Coats. They weren't that but Notre Dame was

625
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Speaker 8: always really that good. We go out to Indianapolis, we

626
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Speaker 8: go to a club myself, Alan Ross, and we've Notre Dame.

627
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Speaker 8: They let us in and weren't gonna let be train in.

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Speaker 8: So that was so funny that Notre Dame was bigger

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Speaker 8: than Indianapolis. Than Indianapolis. He was in the NFL with

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Speaker 8: his little car and he was like, guys, like, he's

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Speaker 8: with us.

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Speaker 3: It worked out, you know, he doesn't necessitate to remind

633
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Speaker 3: us by the way that he was a high school

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Speaker 3: running back.

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Speaker 8: Yes, he has his jersey up in his basement. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he keeps that thing up.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Audrey appreciates a couple of minutes. We know,

638
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Speaker 2: you gotta head out to practice. But so far, so

639
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Speaker 2: good with the running back position and the best of

640
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Speaker 2: luck the rest of the way. Man, thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 2: All right, Cardinals running backs coach oddry Dunson joining us here.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals radio.

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Speaker 5: Not work for some reason.

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Speaker 10: Every time it'd be a one on one situations. I

649
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Speaker 10: was always matched up with Key Trail Clark, but we

650
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Speaker 10: had some good battles back and forth. And I think

651
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Speaker 10: he's going to be a guy that's going to play

652
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Speaker 10: for a while because he controls all the control bulls.

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Speaker 10: He's high no matter what, like high, high energy guy,

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Speaker 10: no matter what. And I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 10: for how he prepares himself on the day to day.

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Speaker 10: He told me today two pages of notes on me. Okay,

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Speaker 10: this is what Mike does on this release, on this release,

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Speaker 10: on this route, on this round. I'm like, bro, that's

659
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Speaker 10: that's crazy. And so I love going against guys that

660
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Speaker 10: truly love the game, and you know, Key Trail is

661
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Speaker 10: one of those guys. I think he's going to be really,

662
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Speaker 10: really special and he's got a special personality. I think

663
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Speaker 10: he's one of the most special personalities I've probably come

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Speaker 10: across in my lifetime in football.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals sixth round draft pick out of Louisville certainly

666
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Speaker 2: has stood out so far. Here in Cardinals training camp,

667
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Speaker 2: Howard by Cox says, we say walkome back. It is

668
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented by Seekik Your Ticket,

669
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Speaker 2: the Great seats Creig Rieloup, Paul Calvc, and Kyle Vannenbosch

670
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Speaker 2: special thanks to running backs coach Autrey Tenson joining us.

671
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Speaker 2: In our previous segment, you heard the voice of Michael

672
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Speaker 2: Wilson talking about his fellow rookie Key Treill Clark. And

673
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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Kyle, that is one player in that

674
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Speaker 2: draft class that has been talked about a lot that

675
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Speaker 2: is not named Paris Johnson Jr. Even a Michael Wilson,

676
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Speaker 2: But for a Day three pick to come in and

677
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: it seemed like right out of the gate finding himself,

678
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: getting some first team reps and showing all the confidence

679
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: in the world in what you want.

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Speaker 3: In a cornerback.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you have to have that confidence and just the

682
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: other things used to describe him, you know, high energy

683
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: and the fact that he's a student of the game

684
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: and he's he already. I mean, somebody taught him well,

685
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 4: because for him to enter the league and you know,

686
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: your head spinning and your eyes are wide open. But

687
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: to start to write down down how these receivers run

688
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: their routes, what to look for for keys, the timing

689
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: of their steps, all these things, this will all serve

690
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: him well. I mean he is so many times as

691
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Speaker 4: a rookie you don't know what you're looking at, what

692
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: to study, and he seems like he's prepared. And we're

693
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Speaker 4: not even talking about preparation for a preseason game, a

694
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Speaker 4: regular season game. He's he's studying, you know, how to

695
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Speaker 4: be successful at practice, how to match up against each

696
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: receiver on this roster. So you know, I'm excited to

697
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: see how he plays. I'm excited to see how the

698
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: cornerback opposite of Marco Wilson. You know, Jonathan Gannon said,

699
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Speaker 4: right now, they're not close to making that decision. So

700
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Speaker 4: these preseason games are going to be key for this group.

701
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Speaker 4: I mean, right now, there's what ten cornerbacks for four

702
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: or five spots, So there's gonna be plenty of opportunity

703
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: in these preseason games for these young and some of

704
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Speaker 4: these veteran cornerbacks to step up, make a name for

705
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: themselves and try to separate themselves from the pack.

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Speaker 2: The camera likes Key Trail Clark. I think the microphone

707
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: likes Key Trail Clark. Now could he back it up?

708
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: And we've seen it in practice, But his first opportunity

709
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Speaker 2: will come on Friday night.

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Speaker 3: He is a great interview, There's no doubt about it.

711
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Speaker 3: Football gods, please let him be a player because the

712
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: media loves him. I want to see his touchdown dance

713
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: because he's constantly staying loose out there, moving and grooving

714
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: to the music. You know, he doesn't seem too big

715
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Speaker 3: for him. He seems very comfortable yet he's ultra prepared.

716
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Speaker 3: And you know, you guys can agree or disagree, but

717
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Speaker 3: if you're going to find a Day three draft pick

718
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: who makes a team and excels, they better have that passion.

719
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Speaker 3: They typically have that passion right they come in and

720
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Speaker 3: Owen Papo he's that guy. I was told that along

721
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray, there was one other guy who was

722
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: there for every single day of the offseason, and it

723
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: was Owen Papo. So once again, if you're on Day three,

724
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Speaker 3: you look for the guy with athleticism, who loves the game,

725
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: and then you hope that the upside will materialize and

726
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: key Troll Clark that position group is wide open right now.

727
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: So if he can prove capable in these preseason games

728
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Speaker 3: and the moment is not too big for him and

729
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: he isn't getting schooled by all of these NFL receivers,

730
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Speaker 3: then guess what. Nobody knows the position better than the

731
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Speaker 3: head coach. That's especially that's what Jonathan Gannon, you know,

732
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: that's where he made it up through the league is

733
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Speaker 3: as a defensive backs coach.

734
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Speaker 2: JG also went to Louisville where Key Trew Clark went

735
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Speaker 2: to as well, so there's already that connection between head

736
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Speaker 2: coach and player. Speaking of JG, here is the Cardinals

737
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: head coach on where he is seen and the progress

738
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Speaker 2: that Clark has made.

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Speaker 9: He wants to be coach extremely hard, all our guys do,

740
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Speaker 9: but I like where he's at. He did some good

741
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Speaker 9: things on this last week on Saturday, he got beat

742
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Speaker 9: a couple of times, showed a little bit of resilience.

743
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Speaker 9: But he's got to have a big week this week.

744
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Big week for a Christian Matthew as well. He's another

745
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: one of those young cornerbacks. Second year first though here

746
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: with this new coaching staff, one of the holdovers from

747
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: a year ago. But you got Marco Wilson, and then

748
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: it's kind of a little bit of a free for

749
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Speaker 2: all as far as who that guy is going to

750
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Speaker 2: be on the other side, and who's to say that

751
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: there's someone not currently on this roster, perhaps Kyle that

752
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: comes in late, maybe right before the season begins, that

753
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Speaker 2: assumes that role if one of these young players can't

754
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Speaker 2: do it when the lights are on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna start to find out answers to some

756
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: of those questions. You know, again, we've talked about this before,

757
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: but I like hearing how these coaches talk about these players,

758
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: how they work with these players, and you know, they

759
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: talked about it. I don't fully understand the concept of this,

760
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: but they just give them a cornerback canvas because each

761
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: athlete is different. So they tell them, here's your job,

762
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Speaker 4: here's where your eyes need to be, here's where your

763
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Speaker 4: help is. Now you go do it with your skill set.

764
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Speaker 4: You know, the worst thing you can do. And I've

765
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Speaker 4: been through this, Like they said, I want you to

766
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: do what Bertram Barry does. Well, I wasn't Bertram Barry.

767
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Speaker 4: I didn't play like Bertram Barry.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 4: My strengths weren't like Bertrand Barry's. And you know, when

770
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Speaker 4: you get an opportunity and a coach says, these are

771
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: your skills, these are the things you do well. Now

772
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Speaker 4: I want you to use those skills within our scheme.

773
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Speaker 4: And it seems like that is a common theme through

774
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: each position group, but particularly with these cornerbacks. You know,

775
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, look, everybody on this roster is

776
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: not going to be Biram Murphy. They're not going to

777
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: be Patrick Peterson, so you can't ask them to do

778
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 4: their technique exactly like them. You give them the tools,

779
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: you give them the information, you help them, you refine

780
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Speaker 4: some things. But each of these guys has a different

781
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 4: skill set. Some of them are burners. Some of them

782
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: can run with these receivers at the top end of

783
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Speaker 4: their route. Some of them are perhaps more athletic. You know,

784
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 4: they can move their hips, they can flip a little better,

785
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: so you know, I think that will serve ultimately. However,

786
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: this shakes out whoever this corner opposite of Marco Wilson is,

787
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: or it may be a rotation, or maybe somebody off

788
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: the street. Ultimately, they're going to be in the best

789
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Speaker 4: position to succeed because they're maximizing their own skill sets.

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Speaker 3: You know what I also I like about hearing Key

791
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Speaker 3: Charul Clark and how prepared he is is he recognizes

792
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 3: how small the margin of victory can be. In the NFL.

793
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: Marco Wilson is rookie year. He had some great games

794
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: against Cooper Cupp. I mean he was right there step

795
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: per step against Cooper Cup two years ago when he

796
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: was the best receiver on the planet. But Cooper Cup

797
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: consistently would make the catch by a couple of inches.

798
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Speaker 3: So I did close that gap. Well, we learned after

799
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: the Rams won the Super Bowl that Cooper Cup and

800
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford three times a week we're out on the

801
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: field at six am, perfecting everything, putting in that extra

802
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: work to separate themselves from all these other guys in

803
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: the NFL who are uber talented and athletic. So how

804
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: do you get that edge? Key Trell Clark realizes that

805
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: a lot of times it comes down to preparation and mentally,

806
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: it's not just your athleticism mistay at these receivers. It's

807
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: knowing in advance what they're most likely to do and

808
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: anticipating in some.

809
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: Of these routes. It's the work in the classroom. It's

810
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: the work you do on your own away from the facility.

811
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Speaker 2: And we heard that in the soundby coming into this

812
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: segment Michael Wilson talking about the pages of notes that

813
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 2: Clark did on him. It is the land of opportunity

814
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: for those cornerbacks. And yeah, defensive coordinator Nick Rolis, he's

815
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: keeping an eye specifically on those young DB's.

816
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Speaker 11: I don't know if I look at it as a

817
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 11: challenge as much as opportunity to get some young guys

818
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 11: with really good talent to play at a high level.

819
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 11: You have to be obsessed with that spot and your craft,

820
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 11: and I'm pleased with you know where those guys can go.

821
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 11: We gotta keep working, We have to improve still, but

822
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 11: I'm excited about it now.

823
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Going into Friday's game, first preseason game Denver Broncos in Town,

824
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: the Cardinals released their first depth chart. It is prepared

825
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: by the team's media relations department with an eye towards

826
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out where these players stack up. And

827
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: it's hard not to notice Paul when you look at

828
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Speaker 2: the cornerback depth chart, Marco Wilson one starter, Antonio Hamilton

829
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Speaker 2: the other's daughter. You've got Kei Trow Clark and Christian

830
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Speaker 2: Matthew behind Wilson and Hamilton. We've been at every single practice.

831
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Speaker 2: Not once have I seen number thirty three run with

832
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Speaker 2: the first team.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that because I was running that

834
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: through my mind as well. I'm trying to hit rewind

835
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Speaker 3: and thinking, wait a minute, have we seen Antonio Hamilton.

836
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: Here's what I think. I think Key Troll Clark and

837
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: Christian Matthew are so close that instead of naming one

838
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: or the other first team, they put them. They want

839
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: to keep them on equal footing level playing fields. They

840
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: put them both second team. Also because they're young guys.

841
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: And Antonio Hamilton, you know, a lot of respect to

842
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: the OG. He's the only guy older on the defense

843
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: than the defensive coordinator, right so boom, And Antonio Hamilton

844
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: probably doesn't have as much to prove. So maybe he's

845
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: not getting a lot of those reps because he's a

846
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: known commodity. They can look at the film from the

847
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: last seven years and know what Antonio Hamilton is all about.

848
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 3: But what do you truly know, Christian Matthew got three

849
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: starts at the end of last year. There was some good,

850
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: there was some stuff he needed to work on. Key

851
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: Troll Clark a total unknown at this level. So maybe

852
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: that's the thinking, because yeah, that was my initial reaction

853
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: as well.

854
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Speaker 2: Players, Kyle, they pay attention to this, They even know

855
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: that this exists. At the end of a week of

856
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: work in training camp, getting ready for a preseason game,

857
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: you do you always look forward to the first depth chart.

858
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: Again, I'm sure these conversations have happened over and over

859
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: in meetings or in the locker room, like, look, this

860
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: is fluid. We're still in training camp, like nobody's job

861
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: is secure. I mean, that's the one thing you constantly

862
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: hear from Jonathan Gannon is every position is up for grabs.

863
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: You've got to earn your spot. And that's you know

864
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 4: what I love hearing from Nick Rowlinson is we're going

865
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: to give these young guys every opportunity to succeed. It

866
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: kind of just felt different in the past. It felt

867
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: like players are probably grandfathered into starting positions, and you know,

868
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: if this team is going to be successful this year,

869
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: if they're going to do some good things, on the field.

870
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Speaker 4: They're going to lean on these rookies. They were drafted

871
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: for a reason. They were drafted to help this team.

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Speaker 4: They're drafted based on their skill set. And it's not

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Speaker 4: just the rookies, it's the free agents that have been

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Speaker 4: brought in. It is the undrafted free agents. Everybody's going

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Speaker 4: to get an opportunity to showcase their talents and make

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Speaker 4: this roster and help this team win games this season.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think at this point in the season,

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Speaker 4: there is no need to lock in starters. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure again that the coaches said that, yes,

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Speaker 4: this is an initial depth chart, but a lot of

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Speaker 4: these positions are real close. Nothing is set in stone.

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Speaker 4: Nobody has earned a starting job at this point in camp.

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Speaker 2: The other depth chart note if you will, that kind

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Speaker 2: of stood out to me Orshard Lawrence starter last year,

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Speaker 2: went healthy, He's listed third team on that defensive line.

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Speaker 3: He has ability, does he have availability? And so he's

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Speaker 3: already missed some of this camp. He missed almost the

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Speaker 3: entirety of the off season. So I'm thinking the.

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Speaker 2: Depth chart reflects that we'll see and again, these players

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Speaker 2: will be given every opportunity to excel starting on Friday

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Speaker 2: preseason opener against the Denver Broncos. You're looking forward to

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the preseason opener, a lot to pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: Where will our eyes lean?

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Speaker 2: Coming up on Friday is the Cardinals Red Sea Report

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Speaker 6: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft,

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Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Junior Ohio State.

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Speaker 12: High high football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable,

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Speaker 12: and you can tell that he's made of the right things,

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Speaker 12: the things that we want not only our offensive lineman

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Speaker 12: to be made of, but but our entire team.

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Speaker 2: The general manager Manty Austin Ford talking about your projected

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Speaker 2: starting right tackle, Paris Johnson, junior out of Ohio State. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he will be on the football field on Friday in

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Speaker 2: the preseason opener. Dare I say we see eight of

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Speaker 2: the nine draft picks on the field on Friday, The

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Speaker 2: one exception, Garrett Williams the cornerback out of Syracuse, still

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Speaker 2: on the non football injury list, though he has been

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Speaker 2: working on the side before practice, so maybe sooner rather

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Speaker 2: than later. You'll get the entire draft class in a

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Speaker 2: game before the regular season begins. But those are the rookies,

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Speaker 2: the first second year players, we'll see them. About some

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Speaker 2: of the veterans on this team, how does the head

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Speaker 2: coach Jonathan Gannel Gannon handle those when it comes to

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Speaker 2: preseason play.

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Speaker 9: Case by case basis, You know, every team is a

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Speaker 9: different team, every player is a different player, so you

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Speaker 9: know it will make that decision collectively with the player,

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Speaker 9: make sure he understands why the decision is made, and

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Speaker 9: we'll go from there.

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Speaker 2: You were telling us before the show, Kyle, that you

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Speaker 2: actually want as a veteran, want to be on the field,

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Speaker 2: and not just for three four snaps, but actually to

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Speaker 2: feel that hits so your body gets used to regular

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Speaker 2: season play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real hard to get into a game, to

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Speaker 4: have success, to get the feel of what an offense

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Speaker 4: is trying to do. The guylanp across from you in

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Speaker 4: a small sample side like, you want enough plays that

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Speaker 4: enough series that hey, I've experienced a third down pass rush.

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Speaker 4: I've experienced second one, a short yardage play. You want

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Speaker 4: to go through as many scenarios as you can, so

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Speaker 4: nothing is new, nothing feels like you haven't worked on

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Speaker 4: it in a live situation once you get to the

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Speaker 4: regular season. But the biggest thing is, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: in spite of you know, putting pads on a practice,

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Speaker 4: it's never quite the same speed hitting as there is

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Speaker 4: in a game. So you want to get that particularly,

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Speaker 4: I mean not just the rookies, but the veterans. I

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Speaker 4: mean you want to feel that you want to go

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Speaker 4: out there and hit somebody and be hit.

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Speaker 2: Paul, you'll be on the call on Friday with Drew

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Speaker 2: stand on the radio side, so play by play in

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Speaker 2: your future. But you'll also have an eye on a

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Speaker 2: number of different players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we not watching right? RB two? It's

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Speaker 3: wide open. There's four guys behind James Connor cornerback two.

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Speaker 3: There's at least two rookies who are well Christian Matthew

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Speaker 3: and Key Troll Clark are making a big push. Are

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Speaker 3: they regular season ready? Left guard? You think it's Elijah

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Speaker 3: Wilkinson against Dennis Day. How are they gonna fare? They've

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Speaker 3: been up and down as some of the O line

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Speaker 3: D line drills, the entire D line room. I think

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Speaker 3: it's fluid. And then there's the first round or Zaven Collins,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Simmons. How are they going to look at brand

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Speaker 3: new positions about some of the new edge guys? You know,

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Speaker 3: whether bg Ojalai plays, Cam Thomas has looked good in

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Speaker 3: year two. And then how is Jonathan Gannon, Nick Rowlis

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Speaker 3: and Drew Petson Gonn approach it. Are they gonna show

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Speaker 3: a lot? Are they gonna show nothing? How is that

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Speaker 3: going to go as a defensive guy though, Kyle? Is

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Speaker 3: it automatic for you the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 3: where your eyes will be? Friday?

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Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, And again to Paula's points, because that's where

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Speaker 4: most of the question marks are. I mean, we're assuming

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Speaker 4: right now it's going to be a three to four

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Speaker 4: because that's what we have on the depth chart. We're

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Speaker 4: not certain is it going to evolve throughout the course

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Speaker 4: of a game. Are they going to sample in some

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Speaker 4: four to three throughout the game? And then the personnel

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Speaker 4: side of it, you know, it's I don't know that

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Speaker 4: any questions are going to be answered from this preseason game,

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Speaker 4: but we're gonna start to get a good idea based

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Speaker 4: on playing time, based on when and how players enter

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 2: Some clarity perhaps coming up on Friday, the preseason Opener

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Speaker 2: special thanks to those behind the scenes Jimobi Hunter, Cody Fitcher,

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Speaker 2: Lauren Coble Special thanks to Autrydenson from Paul calvc Caalva

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Speaker 2: and Bosh. I'm Craig Raylou. We'll talk to you next time.

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