1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Loving the dream once again here on a fabulous sports Sunday. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we're broadcasting live from 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot com studios tire rack dot com. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there an unmatched selection, fast 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: re shipping. Free road has a protection over ten thousand 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: recommend an installers ti iraq dot com. The way tire 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: buying should be Hartman and Husky. It's like, it's like 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Starsky and hutch you know, back in the day TV 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: show Starsky and Huts Hartman and. 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Husky, Husky. Sorry man, sw you hear it? You hear 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: them top Hartman and Husky. Baby he dubbed it, you know, VJ. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: I was trying to think about the last time we 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: actually did a show together. We see each other every 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: single weekend, obviously, but we did a couple of shows 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: back in the day. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: Yes, I know that, yep, two years ago and then 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: three coming out of COVID when they were trying to 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: figure out what they wanted to do with me after 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: filling in a lot for the Yacht couple, they peered 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: me up with you like back to back Sundays or 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: sevend Yes, it was. It was going in the college 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: football season, right, and then last year like a few 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sundays they team or something Saday. They must 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: think we work man. I don't know, you know Hartman 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: or Huskey. I mean it rolls off. 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: The team rights itself, It rights itself. All right, I 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: want to start with something right now? 29 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Sure and okay, So yesterday doing my show with Monci, 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: we got into this. 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Discussion miss Blanos about. 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: Who is the best rookie this year in the WNBA, 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: and I said, well, let's let's there's two ways to 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: look at something, most valuable versus actual best player. And 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: so my argument yesterday was this, you got Angel Reese 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: and obviously have Caitlin Clark. Now, if you're talking about 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: value to the league, if you're actually talking about who 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: is the most valuable player in the WNBA, it should unanimously. 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: Be Caitlin Clark. Because she puts butts in seats. That's 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: not the way I look. 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Say that again. I just want to make sure I 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: got that right. If she's the most good. 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: The most valuable player to the league in terms of 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: who has value to the WNBA, value to the WNBA 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: means you are one that is making us money. Putting 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: butts in seats doesn't necessarily mean you're the best player. 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: It means you're the most valuable player. And no one 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: has ever exemplified value to a league more than Caitlin Clark. 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: But that was my question. Question is who's the best rookie? 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: So I look at Angel Reese and I look at 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, and I said, here's an interesting note. Each 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: one of these women is currently leading the WNBA in 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: one major category. Angel Reese is leading the WNBA in rebounding, 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: and Kaitlin Clark is leading the. 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: League in turnovers. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: In fact, she will be setting a single season record 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: for turnovers. By the All Star break, halfway through the season, 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: she will already have more turnovers than any woman has 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: ever had. But here's where I said, when we talk 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: about value to the team wind shares. Are you a 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: big war stat fan? No, neither of mine. But they 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: have something called the tape on. Yeah, Well they have 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: the wind share stat. 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: It's an equivalent of war like, in other words, how 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: many wins do you actually account for for your team? 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: And since the Sky and the Fever basically have the 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: same record, Ada Rees has a wind share of two 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: point six. 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Kaylin Clark is at one point one. It's not even close. 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: So if I were to be asked, who's your rookie 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: of the year based on game, overwhelmingly it's Angel Reee, 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: which has been the most valuable rookie in terms of 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: attention to the league. Obviously it's Caitlyn Clark. Now I 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: know that you are an Angel Reese fans. 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Boo, I'm not a fan. Like we kind of go together. 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: She just don't know it yet, Like, let's let my 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: little imaginary you know it's my boo boo. Man, Okay, 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: so you must have. 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: I wish you had heard this because you would have 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: been jumping through your skin saying, finally somebody is speaking 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: the truth. 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I heard you, guys, just said. I listened to you 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: guys on the way, and what did you think? This 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: is where I am with that. First of all, the 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: value to the league thing I punched back at, she's 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: valuable to the fever. She hasn't been valuable to the 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: league because it has been valuable to the league. Let 88 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: me break it down and explain it to you guys, 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: because a lot of times and this isn't directed to 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: any one person. This is directed at the masses. See 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: we're told in brainwashed, what the kind of thinking? How 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: to see narratives? And this is the best example I 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: can watch where I can watch across the board. I'm 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: to the point now, then why can't we just enjoy 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: both of them? I may not be a Caitlyn Clark fan, 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: but I do love the way that her toughness has 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: stepped up because she was getting punked, she was getting 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: pushed around, and she was being about it. And then 99 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: at one point somebody got to get to her, or 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: somebody or even herself or dad, somebody say look, this 101 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: is what it's gonna be. So you can either power 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: and you can either complain or you can throw a 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: little bit back. You can start to find your teammates, 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: find yourself in a game. You're not gonna dominate like 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: you did at Iowa. Get that through your head. But 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: you're still good enough to stay in this league and 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: be an effective player. She finds players nicely. She'd have 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: more assistant for teamates, didn't drop the ball. And this 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: is a non Kaitlyn Clark fan saying this. You know 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I could be objective. Andrew Reese is 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: my girl. I would just like it if she countroll 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: ther layups a little more. Some of her offensive rebounds 113 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: are off her, all mishots that are terrible attempts. The 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: value to the league is a false narrative. So it 115 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: looks like she's helping really build the league. No, go 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: look at the ratings. The Fever games are what people 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: are watching. People aren't really watching all these other games. 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Go look at the disparity between the ratings and the 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Fever games and all the other games. So don't tell 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: me she's a value to the league. She's a value 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: to the Fever in her brand, which is fine, Steve, 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: she can be that. But this narrative that she's of 123 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: value to the league. So how many people watching the 124 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: Mystic games? 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: How many people are talking about the WNBA before she arrived. 126 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: They're not talking about Once and they're talking about her 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: and Angel Read they're not talking about the league. Okay, 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: So if that was the case, we'd be talking about 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the Liberty, we'd be talking about Brionna, we be talking 130 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: about Wilson. Okay. 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: Where bottom line is is that they're filling arenas people 132 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: aren't Maybe The reason is that maybe there isn't the 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: full carryover to the rest. 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: Of the league based on her presence with the fever. 135 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: Is is that people that are sampling the WNBA, maybe for 136 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: the first time ever, are seeing a lot of what 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: you just said with ange Rees. She's shooting forty one 138 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: percent as a big That seems impossible when most of 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: your shots are literally under the basshitch. If you watch 140 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: this league for the first time, you're realizing, you know, 141 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: the cell on the women's game is they play the 142 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: fundamental game well, right, they play below the rim. You 143 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: know it's not all the spectacular, But then you realize 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: they don't shoot all that well. Inside the shooting percent 145 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: you see blown layups, you see the kind of shots 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: missed in the WNBA that would happen in the NBA. 147 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: You're like, dude, out of the line. 148 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: You can't you can't play in the league if you 149 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: can't make that shot. And that's commonplace in the WNBA. 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: We can talk about three point shooting right now, Caitlin 151 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Clark barely over thirty percent, And so yeah, I mean, 152 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: it is maybe not carrying over because people are saying, 153 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: all right, I'm everyone seems to be caught up in 154 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: this Caitlin Clark thing. I'm gonna check it out because 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: everyone else is doing social media and everything else. 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: So I'm watching some of the Kaitlin. I don't know 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: how long this is gonna last. 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: Because I look at it, I remember, and I've been 159 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: look at I go back my UCLA days, goes back 160 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: to Ann Myers. Am Myers has literally been a friend 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: of mine for over forty years. 162 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: I go back to the first. 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: Final four in women's college basketball history at a poly 164 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: pavilion nineteen seventy eight when my Blood bl Bruins, led 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: by An Myers, won that first national championship Final four championship. 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: And so I have been there, and I have followed 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: the progression of women's basketball over the years, and I 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: keep asking myself, what is it going to take for 169 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: this league to get any recognition hall it's been a 170 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: money loser. I remember years ago the women were not 171 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: happy about their pay and David Sturn, the commissioner of 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: the NBA, basically flat out told them, you have two choices. 173 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: Choice number one is to take what we give you, 174 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: or Choice covered two is we fuld the. 175 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: League of media. Done. 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: We are That's how it's operating. 177 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know what's the future of the WNBA is, 178 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: but I do know this when I talk about value, 179 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: she is given the league, not just the fever, the 180 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: league attention that we've ever had before for the WNBA. Now, 181 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: whether that's going to have any residual effects, I don't know, 182 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: but you know, and look, go back to Tiger Woods 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: and golf. Right, eyeballs are on golf like never before 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: with the emergence of Tiger Woods. Did that have a 185 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: carryover effect to other players that emerge the stars once 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Tiger was off the map? 187 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: The answer is no, absolutely not. No, I watch golf, 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: absolutely not. 189 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: But what in the moment right now, she is the 190 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: most valuable player in this league by far, not even 191 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: close to be in the best. She may not even 192 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: a top twenty five player in this league, but in 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: terms of her value to this league, they have been 194 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: given an opportunity that they've never had before and may 195 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: never have again. 196 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, I just still fight back. It gets 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: it because I see, I look at the numbers, so 198 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: numbers don't lie women and men do. Numbers never don't. 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: And I look at the ratings. People aren't watching all 200 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: these other games. So I'm trying to figure out what 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: this value is to the fever, to her brand. Yes, 202 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: and then you have to have a villain, So Angel 203 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Reese is the villain. So everybody's looking at the Chicago's cock. 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: Is that a conscious decision by Angel rees to attach 205 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: herself to Caitlin Clark. 206 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. You'd have to ask her that. I mean, 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: you have to ask her that, because I think I 208 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: think it started, well, it started from the National Championship game. 209 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Why I understand that that's where it started from. She didn't, Yeah, 210 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: she did. She did that because she people trash talking sports. Steve, 211 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you and I are old enough to remember where trash 212 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: talk was just a part of sports. Now you look 213 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: down on it for talking trash like you look like 214 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you're unclassy. And we can go through the tweets and 215 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: the stuff Keith Oberman got blown up for class lists 216 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: and calling her names and things of that nature, when 217 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark was doing the exact same move to her 218 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: opponents during the season and it wasn't an issue. That's that. 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: That's a different story for a different day. The value 220 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: point that I still just point to is that it's 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: either her or Angel. That's who people are talking to. 222 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: The best team in the league is New York Liberty 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: out there. Any radio guy without looking it up, namely 224 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: three starters off that office, name me four starts. It's 225 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: it's like, people, we can and we and we know 226 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: we can't, but we want to create this narrative that 227 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: I just don't agree with. People can do what they 228 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: want to do. Steve, I'm just looking at the facts 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: and the figures, and when I look at the ratings 230 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: for the Fever games, and then I look at the 231 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: ratings for the rest of the league that don't include 232 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the Fever or the Sky, that's where I go, Okay, 233 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: where's this league value coming from? Because they still can't 234 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: draw seven thousand. If it's not the Angel Reese or 235 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Kaitlin Clark, they still can't draw eight thousand. This game 236 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: got five hundred thousand views, but the Chicago Sky and 237 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the Fever game got one point nine million who were 238 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: playing in that game, Angel Rees and Kaitlyn Clark. Listen, 239 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: if you want to love either one, pick your side. Fine, 240 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I think. 241 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: How long do you think this is gonna last? 242 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Then? 243 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Because again, if we're not getting after this year because because. 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: The young lady from Yukon and then Juju's come like 245 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: there's gonna be this is this is just for the moment. 246 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: It was created as a narrative. It was created as 247 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: a story. America loves you put good guy versus bad 248 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: guy no matter what it is, even if it's not 249 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: really there. Magic and Bird loved each other, but we 250 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: had to make it something. I'm old enough to remember 251 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: sitting in the backyard watching my uncle's argue about it, 252 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: and I'm watching the games like wow, as a kid, 253 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: I can go these guys don't look like they hate 254 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: each other, but you guys are making it seem like 255 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: they hate each other. But they sat down and had 256 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: a documentary in the crew where we talked about how 257 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: much they loved each other since day won. 258 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: But it went to that level because it was also 259 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: Laer Celtics. 260 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: Anyway. 261 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: You talk about a perfect storm for the NBA at that. 262 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Time, get it. But it wasn't them, it was everybody else. 263 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about Caitlin Clark and injuries. I 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: do not think these two ladies genuinely dislike each other. 265 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: We've been told to make it that way. So now 266 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: we gotta pick us out on the MVP thing. You 267 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: know what I would like to see the comedian in me, 268 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd and Grant Hill style. What happened to those 269 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: two guys back in ninety four? 270 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: They were tied for the Rookie of the Year award. 271 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: That's why I love working with this guy. 272 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: Give it to both of them, all right, give it 273 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: to both of It may well happen. 274 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: We'll see the voting down the line. They both have 275 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: been clearly the two dominant. 276 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: By the way, remember Angel Reese was the seventh pick 277 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: in the draft and she is certainly outplayed two through six, 278 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: so there's no question about that. 279 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: To both have a lot of improvements. To me, well, 280 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Angel is my girl, but man, get your feet together 281 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: when you get the ball. She foul hunts a lot. 282 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: That's how she misses a lot of. 283 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: Low forty one percent shooting it big is not good. 284 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: Should be forty. She should be had about forty eight 285 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: forty nine percent from the floor right now. And that's 286 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: gonna being a diehard fan, all right, she's got to 287 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: clean it up. We'll put that aside for a moment here. 288 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: There's a show that VJ has been watching. 289 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's sort of a spin off of her show 290 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: that I watched every second of. And I'm gonna give 291 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: you a little background on exactly why these shows now 292 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,479 Speaker 2: happen when they could have been happening more than thirty 293 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: years ago. It's NFL related. I will tell you all 294 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: about it. 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Yeah, 305 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally 306 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: out of context. 307 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you 308 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: out and beat you. 309 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. 310 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Shut up. 311 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, just listening to the Folly and Tony Fusco 312 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 5: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts oherever you get your podcasts. 313 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: Yee Hertbin and Husky here. I can't think it starts. 314 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Get Hutch, Heartbin and Husky Here. Fox Sports Sunday once again, 315 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: we are live from the tire rack dot com studios. 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No? 326 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 327 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: You did it? Oh? God, yeah, I'm one of the 328 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: only Now look I'm in the wheelhouse of the actual shot. 329 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Got you. I remember the showing syndication. You probably do. 330 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: You remember when it was coming on weekly but a syndication. 331 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm the only guy who thinks that movie was good. 332 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Everybody I asked about the movie, they like the movie sucked. 333 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: Well, the people that said it sucked were the people who. 334 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Actually watch the show. That's what happens. 335 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, usually when they do movie versions of a long 336 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: running television show. 337 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. I loved it, man, because again, you're 338 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: getting you get married. 339 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: If you're watching a regular show. These characters, these actors 340 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: have been on the screen for years after years, so 341 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: you get used to them. So when you bring in 342 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: new actors portraying the same characters, that's when you have trouble. 343 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: Like the eighteen You're right, because I thought that movie sucked. 344 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: And I watched that show as a kid, faithfully, and 345 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I thought that movie show that. 346 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Was like Cheers, you know, like if you do it, it 347 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: would not work. Those are the characters of that shit 348 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: Cheers fit. 349 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. My mom used to I mean she made 350 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: us watch it. My mom used to love that. 351 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties, when I was working as the 352 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: pr guy for the Raiders, we had a couple of 353 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: games on the road against the Patriots when they sucked 354 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: way back in the day. 355 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: And so this was during the height of Cheers. So 356 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: we're in Boston going. 357 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: To bars, Sam Malone, baby, Yeah, back in the day. 358 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: All right, speaking of back in the day, yes, So 359 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: do you remember MTV sports? 360 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, of course. So this is a true story. 361 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: In the early nineties when I was you know, with 362 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: six ninety we were launching this first all sports station 363 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: on the West Coast. 364 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: So this is like nineteen ninety. 365 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: I get a phone call from a friend of mine 366 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: and she is working for MTV. Now, during the eighties, 367 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: MTV was just videos. That's basically all they showed videos. 368 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: They showed the video after video after video. We were 369 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: all for us in the eighties. We were all addicted 370 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: to their videos. But now they wanted to expand their programming. 371 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: They wanted to actually create shows. And she gives me 372 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: a call because she knows I'm a sportscaster and everything else, 373 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: and she goes, I want to do like an. 374 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: MTV sports show. Now, this is only a few years 375 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: after I had left working for the Raiders organization, the 376 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: LA Raiders back in the day. So I gave her 377 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: a proposal for a show, and I said, here's something 378 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: I think would be interesting to people, and I actually 379 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: believe some of these players would be gained to it. 380 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: Pull back the curtain, take them out of their uniforms, 381 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: and show their actual life off the field. That was 382 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: the proposal I laid out to MTV and someone of power. Well, 383 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: as it turned out. They went in a different direction. 384 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: I want to, you know, offbeat sports, and you know 385 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: they did that direction with it. But I gave them 386 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: this idea, if you pull back the curtain and actually 387 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: see players, especially in football, because when you're in full gear, 388 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: we don't even know what these guys look like back 389 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: in the day, right unless you had a football card, 390 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: he can say, oh, this, that's what the guy looks like, right, exactly. 391 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 6: Know. 392 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: When I was a small kid, I'm not kidding you, 393 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: so nineteen, you know, I'm like seven years old, mid sixties. 394 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: I get a football card of Jim Brown. I thought 395 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 2: they were the Cleveland Browns because of Jim Brown. And 396 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: then I get a Johnny Unitas card and the horseshoe, 397 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: the you. I thought that was for Johnny you Knights. 398 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is how I identify these legends with 399 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: our uniforms. 400 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: So here we are. 401 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: And that quarterback series I thought was tremendous. I watched 402 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: this with Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mariota. 403 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: I thought it was a perfect casting where you have. 404 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: The biggest star in the league and then you have 405 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: a guy that's sort of like right there in the middle, 406 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: and then you have another guy who never really achieved 407 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: the start and me, he's getting one more chance to 408 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: do it. Now, you say they have a new YES receiver, 409 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: So who's in this one? 410 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: This is our standard receiver? Has Davante Adams from the 411 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. All right, my man, who wants some 412 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: of Deebo Samuel from the San Francisco forty nine ers, Yes, 413 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: along with his tight end IOWA guy George Kittle and 414 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: then Justin Jefferson probably the league's best pound for pounds receivers. 415 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Amron Saint Brown, whose father was a multi time Mister Olympia, 416 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: Mister Universe, has a brother that plays for the Bears. 417 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: And it was light quarterback and you were. 418 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: Talking surema Rock because we were doing his highlights at USC. 419 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know. I covered him in high school. 420 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: In modern day. 421 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know if we was going to be that 422 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: kind of player coming into the NFL. 423 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: But obviously I knew in high school. I saw him 424 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: a modern day. So I was calling high school football 425 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: for when Bryce Young was there and DJ Young Galley 426 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: was a Saint John's Bosco and those schools. That's a 427 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: star cast. Oh absolutely. Halani love Chris Lawyer. There's a kid, 428 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: Chris Hudson that's up at Oregon that plays the slot 429 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: that was over it there at that time too. But 430 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: this thing, this thing's great, man, it does and it's 431 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: kind of like what you said, it's all set up. 432 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Davante is the married guy with two kids. He's married, 433 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: got a big, beautiful house out there, two kids, kittles, 434 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Mary hold On. 435 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: Doesn't Devonte Adam have like a taco bell in his 436 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: house when he saw Yeah, yea, yeah he does. 437 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: He Actually there is an episode where he talks about that, 438 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: that how that sponsorship came. 439 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: Before we go further, Brown fran, yes, Well, for yeah, 440 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: I was gonna say I'm in that same boat as VJ, 441 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: because I definitely saw him at USC and I stumped constantly, 442 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: and when they drafted in for the Lions, that was. 443 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: An interesting moment. 444 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: But I do have to point out another huge star 445 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: of this, which is I'm on Ross's saint Brown's father, 446 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: John Brown. Yeah, it was a two time Mister Universe, 447 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: three time Mister World Bodybuilder extraordinaire. But I will never 448 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: get out of my head that clip of him sitting 449 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: in ford Field talking about you know, crazy stuff. 450 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: We'd heard crazy stuff. He picked. 451 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: He picked a fight with like Kevin Durant randomly in 452 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: The Lion's Hard Knocks and he's in there talking about 453 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: how Coca Cola is better than Gatorade because, in his words, 454 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: Coca Cola's got energy. 455 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: And then he even. 456 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: Texts, I'm un raw. It's like at halftime, drink cod now. 457 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: Now Chris will talk to that dog. I am. 458 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you. He's not the start of show, though. 459 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: The start of the show is. The starter show is 460 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: Claire Kittle. Thank you, She's the start of show. 461 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: Killing Claire. 462 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: You let me tell you something, Monty is. Let me 463 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: tell y'all something. Men, listen, watch Receiver. Find you a 464 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: woman like that and you'll be fine. I promise you. 465 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: You will have no worries as a husband and a 466 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: father in life. 467 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: That make and George she gets they look so different. 468 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: She gets it. But she was an athlete in her. 469 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Know that nobody. That's why. That's why this is great. 470 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know Monty. That's why these stuff is great. 471 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm a big Claire Kittle fan. I'm a big I've only. 472 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 7: Watched the first two episodes, right, Yeah, so I've only. 473 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't care about spoilers and watch it even. 474 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: You know me, so yeah, you know I'm going to. 475 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 7: I watched the first two episodes. I already followed followed 476 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 7: Claire separately. Wow, now I love her even more. 477 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 8: But I was already a fan of hers the little 478 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 8: I knew, I was already a fan of hers. 479 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: He's a perfect They're perfect match. 480 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 7: They really really are. They compliment each other. 481 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 8: But like VJ said, she is his support he says 482 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 8: in this first episode, So if you haven't seen it, sorry, 483 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 8: but he's like, she doesn't miss a game, not an 484 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 8: away game, not a home game. 485 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 7: She is at every single. 486 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: She also makes a fashion statement for the game beautiful, gorgeous. 487 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 7: She is his support system, which is such a beautiful 488 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 7: thing to say. 489 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: The best part about it, the very and the best 490 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: thing she does every game. So was she taps some kiss, 491 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: tap some own ass, go kick some mass. Yeah people 492 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: don't understand like that really that resonates in him that 493 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: this is my wife, not my coach, my tight end coach, 494 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: not a fan. My wife is tapping me. Okay, but 495 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: I love you. Now go kick some ass. And I 496 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: love that about her. 497 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: I want to hear more about this, but first let's 498 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now. 499 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: Claire is trending. MIC's already on, so let's roll here. 500 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 7: Hey listen. 501 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 8: Also, the party bus, they have a part. She has 502 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 8: a party bus that she takes to every home game, 503 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 8: like girl, you, I love you, Ken, can I date you? 504 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 8: Like You're so amazing? She really really gets it. 505 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, BJA, off the air, I 506 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: can tell you my own party bus situation. 507 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: I can't say, well. 508 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 7: You know, yes, yes, say it off air to BJA. 509 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 7: I'm sure I've heard of something already off the air. 510 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 7: All right, Well, let's. 511 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 8: Start in baseball, fellas a full slate of games going 512 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 8: on right now. The Orioles holding onto their lead over 513 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 8: the Yankees three two, top of the ninth inning in Baltimore. 514 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 8: The Red Sox have added some more runs, so they're 515 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 8: beating the Royals four to one, bottom of the third. 516 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 7: Rafael Devers with a two run shot. 517 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 8: Trey Turner on fire this month, eight homers in twelve games. 518 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 7: He just hit a solo shot. 519 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 8: But the A's have just taken the lead over the 520 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 8: Phillies two to one, top of the fourth, up on 521 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 8: the Guardians one zero. They're about to start the fifth inning. 522 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 8: The Rockets with the two zero lead over the Mets. 523 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 8: Bottom of the fourth inning, a couple of hits for 524 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 8: the Dodgers, they Alsot Hernandez and the PAHs, and now 525 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 8: they're beating the Tigers three zero, top of the fourth inning. 526 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 8: But Dodgers starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto has been moved to the 527 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 8: sixty day I l inactive until at least August sixteenth. 528 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 8: You know, Bo, Ryan and I have a Dodgers podcast 529 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 8: and we talked about this a couple of days ago 530 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 8: where we're like, the silence on Yamamoto is very loud. 531 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean glass now is down. I mean their 532 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: pitching staff has unraveled. And we said this was the critical. 533 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: Point going into the season. You signed show. 534 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: Hey, it's great, right, great, one more big bat in 535 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: the lineup as you're pitching. Look, we don't have a 536 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: timetable on Kerkshaw. Sil Nope, Dustin May is done till 537 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: the year. 538 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 8: The year Bobby Miller off John where is he a 539 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 8: Bueller somewhere in Florida? 540 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 7: Apparently we're on his arm. Yeah, like we are a mess. 541 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: But right now we're winning. 542 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Right now, so weak there you go. 543 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 8: It's you know, it's kind of like also similar to 544 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 8: right the NBA, creating a team sometimes doesn't work the 545 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 8: way you think it's going to work, and so that's 546 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 8: that's what the Dodgers are right now going through. Obviously 547 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 8: we start the whole half of the season, so we'll 548 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 8: see what happens. Marlins and Red scoreless, top of the fifth, 549 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 8: White Sox beating. 550 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 7: The Pirates one zero, bottom of the second. 551 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 8: The Rangers are beating the Astros VJ two zero, bottom 552 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 8: of the second. Vers with the early lead over the 553 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 8: Nationals one zero, top of this second as well. 554 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 7: In Wimbledon, of course, I'm not surprised. I'm saying this. 555 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 7: Carlos Alcaaz does it again. Defeats Novak Djokovic for. 556 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 8: The second year in a row in the Championship, this 557 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 8: time in straight sets. 558 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 7: He's only twenty one guys, only a bat. 559 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is the future of tennis. 560 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: And it's good on the men's side because now they 561 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: do have a new star after feder and Nadal and Djokovic. 562 00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: We need a start. 563 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: We got one and out for yeah, yeah, for sure. 564 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: On the women's side. They don't have bleep hey yeah, yeah, 565 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to be Coco, but they wanted to be Coco. 566 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: But she can't come through. She's got something the biggest 567 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: stage in tennis. Yeah, she's never made the quarters. 568 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 7: W Yeah, yeah, I agree with you VJ. 569 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 8: So I was surprised she was bumped out as early 570 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 8: as she was in the women miss permanently. 571 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it is the sumings. 572 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 7: Up agreed in the w NBA. The sun are all 573 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: over the Mercury. 574 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 8: Seventy four fifty three is the score with about eight 575 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 8: minutes to go in the game, and then sad news 576 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 8: out of the NFL. Former Ravens receiver and Super Bowl 577 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 8: champion Jacoby Jones passed away at the age of forty. 578 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 8: According to KPRC television out of Houston, he passed away 579 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 8: overnight in his sleep. 580 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 7: No cause of death has been announced yet. 581 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 8: He played nine seasons in the NFL became the first 582 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 8: player to score a receiving touchdown and return touchdown in 583 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 8: the same game in Super Bowl history. That was in 584 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 8: twenty thirteen when the Ravens defeated forty nine Ers thirty 585 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: four to thirty one, and. 586 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 2: His one hundred and eight yard kickoff return in night 587 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: game is still the longest scoring play in the history 588 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl. 589 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: That's when they pulled the plug on the power to 590 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: slow them down because they were on the verge of 591 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: blowing the Niners out of that they were blowing. We're 592 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: on the verge of blowing because that's the kick off 593 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: that starts the second half. 594 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: You didn't see Jim Harbaugh pull the pull the plug 595 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: on his brother there to Beyon halftime. 596 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 7: I mean, who else would you know? 597 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Take I remember that game close? 598 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: Was that catch of Crabtree that would have won the 599 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: game from Kaepernick. 600 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: To It was right there. It was right there. It 601 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: was right there. It was right there. 602 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: Man. 603 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: I was rooting for the Ravens in that game. You 604 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: know why I was rooting for the Ravens. I had 605 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: actually met Ray Luke. We had Ray Lewis in studio. 606 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: I've said this many many times, Monce, Thank you very much, Jess. 607 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 3: So when we talk about leader, by definition, a leader 608 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: is someone that inspires others to follow. 609 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: That's the definition of a leader. In other words, you 610 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: inspire others to follow, That makes you a leader. This 611 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: is not something that can be manufactured, No it has 612 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: to be something about you. So I had ray Lewis 613 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: in study, and he's a controversial figure to say the least. 614 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: But you spend five minutes with. 615 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: Ray Lewis in person, you're following this guy. 616 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he has such a power in his personality, 617 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: in his convictions, in his commitment. 618 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: To the game as he had back in the day. Uh. 619 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: And to see him go out on top, you know, 620 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: obviously I was also an Ed Reid fan. Who's the 621 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: greatest safety in the history of the National Football League. 622 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: His numbers don't lie. I mean, when you look at 623 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: you can talk, you can you can have that one. 624 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: Oh Ed Reave, Yeah, you can have that one. 625 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: No one's like that. That He averaged like twenty six 626 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: yards of return on every air interception he ever had. 627 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: So to see those guys come out on top and 628 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: that I was rooting for them. I was rooting because 629 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: of ray Lewis over the forty nine ers of that game. 630 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I was rooting because I'm from the DMV area, and 631 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I knew a lot of Raven fans. 632 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: I was always pulling my Homeboys fan. My team's not 633 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: in it. I don't like to sit and watch my 634 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: boys team losing him going pain. I'm much rather him 635 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: be happy and then we can all do shots after 636 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: the game and everybody's happy. So I was pulling for 637 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: him too. But I'm a big Harbor. I'm a big 638 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Burger's guy. So I'm glad. I'm glad that he 639 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: is back in the well. 640 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: You know this was totally you know how this Harbor 641 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: situation came down with the NFL. Don't say with the Chargers. 642 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, this is exactly what they'll Everyone will deny 643 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: this till they're blue in the face. So I went 644 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: to I took my two sons, are big Chargers fans, 645 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: and I thought, instead of going to game at so Fi, 646 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: let's go to I want to go to a Llegiance 647 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Stadium because I haven't seen it, you know, a former Raider. 648 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: I want to see the whole set up in Vegas. 649 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: We went to that game, the last game of Brandon 650 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: Staley's career, forty two nothing Raiders. 651 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: At halftime, yeah, the death Star. 652 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: And as we are leaving Vegas the next morning, the 653 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: word comes down. Obviously, Brandon Staley, Tom te Lesca of 654 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: the GM have been five and Bernie Fratto calls. 655 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Me, that's my guy. 656 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: So Bernie calls me Barney. He goes, hey, Steve, I 657 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: know you're the Raiders guy. Can you come on my 658 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: show tonight? Or the Chargers guy? You know everything about 659 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: the Chargers. 660 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Can you come on my show tonight? I said sure. 661 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: So that night, the night that Staley was fire. 662 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: Remember this is in December, you know, Bernie comes on 663 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: with me and you know, late night, and he's like 664 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: talking about all these replacedment I go, stop, Bernie, stop. 665 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: The next coach of the Chargers will be Jim Harbaugh. 666 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: This is before he won the national chat. 667 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: This is in December. Yeah, one hundred percent. He goes, well, 668 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: how can you be so certain, I said, because now 669 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: the league has stepped in. The League has stepped in. 670 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna take charge of this La franchise that is 671 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: failing to deliver a freebie. And that's what the Chargers 672 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: have been handed a freebie by the league. They then 673 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: paid one penny in the relocation money. They didn't generate 674 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: one money, one penny toward the building of that stadium. 675 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: They have had a free ride and it is over. 676 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 677 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: So when it came down to the hiring Harbor. 678 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: You remember, right at the end the actual day and 679 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: it was announced that Harba was hired. 680 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: You know, he had Don Yee as. 681 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: His agent, the superagent, right, he had been given a 682 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: lot of guarantees by the league about the kind of 683 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: deal that Jim harr was going to get. 684 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: Well, the Chargers were beginning to hedge a little bit, 685 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: and Jim. 686 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: Harbaugh literally had one door out, one foot out the 687 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: door until little phone. 688 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: Calls made allegedly to the league to straighten out the mess. 689 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: And it was straightened out immediately, which is why when 690 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: they had the introductory press conference introduced Jim Harbor as 691 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: the new coach of the Chargers, Dean Spanners looked like 692 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: he was gonna throw up because that coach's salary. 693 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Is coming out of his pocket. 694 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be all right, and well, he'll be all right, 695 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: but he wasn't feeling it because he didn't have that 696 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: cash on hand. 697 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: His values only on the value of having an NFL team. 698 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: So I wish Jim Harbaugh all the best. I'm a 699 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: big Jim Harbaugh fan. His record speaks for itself. But 700 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he has inherited a dog get 701 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: They got Justin Herbert, and they have nobody to throw too. 702 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: They have no receivers, they have no tight end, they 703 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: have no. 704 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Running in and they have He's got tight ends. He's 705 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: got par he's got tight ends. Uh, really fast on 706 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: hardball too. I'm gonna post the video. I was on 707 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Spectrum Sports Net back in December, and this is before 708 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: the Alabama game and there it was before the Rose 709 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: ball and UH my shout out to my guy Timothy 710 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: over there. Timothy had me come on to do a 711 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: football uh segment, and he asked me the question, where 712 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: did the Chargers go with the hire. I'm gonna post 713 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: the video because it was on l A TV for 714 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: our special sports net. And I told him that day, 715 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: I said, I think I showed it the Manzie Monsie scene. 716 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: I said it to her phone, send to some other people. 717 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: I think both had seen it too. I told him, 718 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I said, there's only one guy you hire. There's only 719 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: one guy you hi. It's Joseph Jacob Harball. That's the 720 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: only guy you hire. You don't hire, you don't even 721 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: interview anybody else. He you know, you want, you know, 722 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: he wants to be here. He has ties in this 723 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: state with the Niners and with San Diego University Stanford 724 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, let him coach is fourteen here. So I 725 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: was right along with you, Bernie, and I talked about it. Also, 726 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: the league made this higher. It was gonna happen. 727 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: After what the Chargers and hire Previaly with the Mike 728 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: McCoy's and the Anthony Lyns and the Brandon Stales, where 729 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: they're spending no money on their coach. Absolutely, the NFL said, 730 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: you are gonna spend We need to get you guys relevant. 731 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: We need eyeballs on the team in Los Angeles. This 732 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: ain't San Diego anymore. 733 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: No, this is LA and there's a lot of competition. 734 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I always tell people there's a lot of comp in 735 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: this town. USC UCLA, the Lakers, the Kings, the Dodgers, 736 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: the Angels, hell the MLS soccer team draws out here, 737 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: lay red carpets, movie premiere, celebrity stuff. They shoot every 738 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: movie out here, they shoot every reality show out here. 739 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: You could go sit on Sunset Boulevard and have brunch 740 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: and see any celebrity come pull up in the Lamborghinia 741 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: for iay come out. But you there is competition out here. 742 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: And when LA was bad in football. If you're bad 743 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: here in November on Sunday, I don't have to sit 744 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: in traffic. 745 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: Then has been a zero MG. Even when the Rams 746 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: in November. 747 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: In La Okay on the Sunday. If your football team saw. 748 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: This is the only city in America that has an 749 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: NFL team, that the NFL team is not the biggest 750 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: team in the in the city. 751 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: You think the uh you think the Giants are bigger 752 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: than the Yankees. Yes, the New York Giants are. Maybe 753 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: not the Yankees, I know not not the bum ass jestes. 754 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: We know that. 755 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the NFL. 756 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: Look at you look where the Yankees are. Look at 757 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: it in terms of history. No, but in terms of 758 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: the impact of any NFL. 759 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I just Giants over the okay, but 760 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: in La Nolaker Dodgertown, Okay. All right. 761 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: On the other side, I still want to get back 762 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: to this receiver. 763 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go all right. Uh, keep it right here. 764 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: You are listening exclusively to the show everyone is talking 765 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 2: about right now, Hartman and Husky. This is Fox Sports Sunday. 766 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: Hartman and Husky. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live 767 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: from the Tirak dot Com studios. All right, as I 768 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 2: knew we would. We're gonna get sidetracked on several stories 769 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: over the course of the show today. 770 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh you and I do though, Man, we kind of 771 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: spider web it. We do well, That's always the way 772 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I do it. 773 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: You know a lot of people, Look, when you work 774 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: with me, you understand, and you've worked with me and 775 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: everybody that's ever sat next to me, which is pretty 776 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: much everybody in this building and then some. I can 777 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 2: honestly say, am I thirty five years of doing sports 778 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: rock radio that I've worked with more co hosts than 779 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: anyone in the history of sports talk radio. I think 780 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: there's any question about that. But as far as the 781 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: game plan is concerned, the game plan is simple. I'm 782 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: gonna take you in a certain direction I trust, and 783 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: certainly someone like VJ I know I can trust that 784 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: any direction I'm gonna go, He's gonna have plenty to 785 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: say on that subject matter. I do want to get 786 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: back to the show A receiver, all right, So again 787 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: the idea of pulling back the curtain. This is the 788 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: genius marketing that is never ending in the National Football League, right, 789 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: I mean, you had you know, you've had behind the 790 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: scenes shows to open up the door to give you 791 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: a little you know, the Hard Knocks series, which isn't 792 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 2: what it used to be. But when it first happened, 793 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: and they would take these obscure guys, they're gonna get 794 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: cut ultimately, and we get to know them a little 795 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: bit and then they get you know, the cut and 796 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: everything else. That was sort of a novelty at the time. 797 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: But I loved what I saw on that Quarterback show. 798 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: I love. I'm gonna obviously watch this Receiver show as well. 799 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 3: But when you when you watch these guys, because when 800 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: you label professional athletes today, a lot of people immediately 801 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: think about the money. Right, Well, gee, if I were 802 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: making tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, 803 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: how easy my life would be. I wouldn't have a 804 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 3: worry in the world. 805 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: And when you pull back the curtain and you understand 806 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: whether you're a family guy or a young single guy, 807 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: you're going through the exact same process that everyone else is. 808 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 2: Maybe you got a lot more money in the bank, 809 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: but that doesn't change personalities or interaction with other people. 810 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: And I think things have been valuable in essentially making 811 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: these zillionaire athletes a little more accessible to the average 812 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: football fan. 813 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what receiver did. Because what quarterback did 814 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: is it made me appreciate Pat Mahomes more. Oh the 815 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: workout I got her. Thank you. There you go. See God, Man, 816 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: we don't have to say it. It's just like telepathic. 817 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: I tell people, get rid of the stupid all that's 818 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: luck narrative. No, it's not. The man literally stands on 819 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: the boozoo ball and leans to the left and pulls 820 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: a cable from the right and has a weight in 821 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: his arm in the in the left like he does 822 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's not an action. 823 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 3: They say, well, you know he's a freak he can throw. 824 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: No, he's not a freak. He this this stuff he trains. 825 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: And it made me, even though not a KC fan, 826 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: not a Mahomes guy, but I respect the living hell 827 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: out of that man because the work he puts in 828 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: to put his body in the product on the field, 829 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: football being my favorite sport, I respect that. I'm around 830 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Saint Brown is the same type of deal Chris talked 831 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: about his dad. The guy was bitching. He had him 832 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: bitching before the kid can read. I mean, he's a freak. 833 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: He is a freak. Something else I took from this too. 834 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Can we get rid of the narrative that you can't 835 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: hit and tackle in football anymore? Because these guys get 836 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: banged up all year long. These guys taking his debo, 837 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: had his deebo, had his classical cracked, Like, it's not 838 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: an easy sport to play. Guys, we're not flagged. I 839 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: hate what? Oh what are we gonna do? Put flags on? No, 840 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: you're not, because I'm watching this thing and you hear, 841 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: especially when you hear the sounds, when you hear the boom, 842 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: you here the body's crash and it's like, wow, that 843 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: looked like a soft tackle when I watched it live, 844 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: but hearing it and then hearing the guy lay on 845 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: the ground go and then it gets up. It goes 846 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: back to the hud on the teams like you straight. Yeah, man, 847 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: you you don't know that until, like you said, the 848 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: curtain gets pulled back justin. Jefferson is the single guy, 849 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: no girlfriend. It's all about him and his dad eats 850 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: a ton of candy. That's why he pulled his hamstring. 851 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: The kids stopping all can Lynch going outstad two shots 852 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: of Hennessy before every game too is he told Peyton 853 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: Fanny but uh, And then you have a Deebo Samuel 854 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: who has the the living girlfriend but has his little 855 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: has his son. He I think I became more of 856 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: a fan of Debo through this bro. He really is 857 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: a level headed, grown man. He understands his role. His 858 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: girlfriend was talking about when he had his son. She 859 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: goes it changed him. It really it softened him. He's 860 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: it's not just football football football. He gives us time. 861 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: There's time he watches his film, you know, showing him 862 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: like watching film rewinding. Then and it's time he's with 863 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: us with the TV's off and he's playing with the kid. 864 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: And it really does pull the curtain back. Like you said, 865 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: money doesn't mean anything, guys, is we all got the 866 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: same problems. We all got to put our pants on 867 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: one leg at a damn time. And just because you're 868 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: rich and you got a lot of money, like Biggie 869 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: Small's once said, more money, more problems. The more money 870 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: you have, the more issues you have. So I employ 871 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: you man, knock it out before the season starts. It's great. 872 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: Quick sidebar Raiders need to move on from DeVante Adams. 873 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna see why when you watch this, they need 874 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: to move on from DeVante Adams. They need Devonte Adams. No, 875 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: they don't. 876 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean I understand why he went there. 877 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: Obviously you want to night with his boy Derek Carr 878 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: from their fres Noo days. But watch it, and you 879 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: watch it when we where do you how do you 880 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 2: replace a Davonte Adams. 881 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: You need to start. You're starting over anywhere. You got 882 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: a new coach. You gotta do you let you let 883 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs go. 884 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: If you're gonna strip the Raiders of their number one 885 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: receiver for. 886 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: What, there's seams out there that'll give you some point. 887 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh come on, well we'll see. I'll be gone by 888 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: the trading deadline. You guys heard it. 889 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: Here. 890 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: By the way, I have another twist on money and 891 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: sports on the other side. This is Fox Sports Sunday. 892 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Rolling along here on another busy sports Sunday. 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Okay, 903 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: you know what the bet was. 904 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: So he is a believer that the LA Chargers, that 905 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is going to instantly turn around a team 906 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: that is now without their top receivers, without a running back. 907 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: They really have a young quarterback who, by the way, 908 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: is a five hundred quarterback in his young career. Herbert 909 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: is not the quarterback now that he was two years 910 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: ago when he was voted at Pro Bowls starter. 911 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: To me, the jury is still out. Montembo jump in 912 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: on this jury is still out. 913 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: If Herbert is that rare quarterback that can deliver in 914 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I've been watching Herbert the last couple 915 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: of years in the fourth quarter. He's been given opportunities 916 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: to win games and he's not. 917 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 8: So it's funny because yesterday, Steve, remember when we were 918 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 8: talking during the break that there's always a team that 919 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 8: surprises every year in the NFL. 920 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 7: I was going to tell you the Chargers is the 921 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 7: team that I thought was going to. 922 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: Surprise, said, really surprise. The whole world's jumping on the 923 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh bandwagon. 924 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 8: Well you're not. 925 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. 926 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: And I love Jim Harbor as a coach. I think 927 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: eventually he'll get this right, but not this year. 928 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a quick, a quick turnaround. 929 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 9: I agree with youj So justin Herbert isn't clutch, is 930 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 9: what you're saying. No, so they were bringing a different 931 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 9: quarterback in in that Raiders game. They kept converting all 932 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 9: the fourth and. 933 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: Okay, that was back long again. Take a look at 934 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: the last two years. You want to you want to 935 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: talk about that playoff game against Jacksonville. How was that 936 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: second half? 937 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, how much of that was him? And 938 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 9: how much of that was how much was him? 939 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: That's what I always love about this is so you 940 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: have a situation like Herbert just absolutely yacked it up 941 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: in that second half to allow Jacksonville to get back. 942 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: In that game. 943 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 3: And they're like, wow, it was a play calling, man. 944 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't you can't overcome the play calling. 945 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: I think sometimes though quarterbacks we put too much on 946 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 3: their plate. Like I remember watching I was at the 947 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: Lions Chargers game, and like again that that game was 948 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 3: primarily lost because the Chargers defense was bad. But also 949 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons people are high on 950 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh going to the Chargers is that it is look, you, 951 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 3: you can't just be a one dimensional offense. And I 952 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: think taking some of that off Herbert's plate will allow 953 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: him to be greater by doing more but needing to 954 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 3: do more on less plays too. Like, okay, but with 955 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 3: who you have to have guys at the scale position? 956 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: Look at the forty nine ers, right, we talk about 957 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: you know brock Party in this incredible rise island. 958 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 3: Who has more weapons than he has with the forty 959 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 3: nine ers? 960 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: Wait, anybody, but what weapons? 961 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 9: Maybe the Eagles? I think? 962 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: Okay, can I can I go now? Wow? 963 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: Right? 964 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: Let everybody? Can I go now? So I can shut 965 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: this all down? All right? So listen, I'm gonna go 966 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: buy history. I'm gonna go by what we've seen. I'm 967 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna go by see what's what's been done. University of 968 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: San Diego, Stanford, the Niners, Michigan. 969 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 3: Stop Michigan six years to be Ohio State. 970 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,959 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter matter that. It doesn't matter. Yes, because 971 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: you take a program for years that beat Ohio. See 972 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: what I finish. You take a program that won five 973 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: games coming in, you give him ten wins the first 974 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: three years in a row. 975 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: That is turning a program around. Yes, first four years 976 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 3: looks like Brady Hoak to me. 977 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: Yes, it No, it didn't look like Brady Hok to 978 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: you because Brady Holk Brody Ohio State. Brady Hog won 979 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: one Bowl game early with Denar Robinson and the Sugar 980 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: Beam because Virginia Tech through the game. 981 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 3: Look at Jim Harbull's bull Reker his first five years. 982 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't I'm not care about his first five years. 983 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: Did he turn the program around? 984 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 6: Yes? 985 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: I know, well, and that's what I'm saying with the Chargers. 986 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: Give him five years. But you're talking about some immediate 987 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: turnaround exactly. 988 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna see him have the safe stop that they 989 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: won five games last year. I said during the break, 990 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: I give him eight or nine wins. That is that 991 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: is turning you. That is turning a team around that 992 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: one five you know where they win nine games? Absolutely, 993 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: they can win nine games this year. You kidding me. 994 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Justin Herbert. I'm with you on that 995 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 1: bow and I'm with Chris on that a lot of times. Look, Stanley, 996 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: do the thing about trying to blame Justin Herbert for 997 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: that game is people want to Staley fired during that season. 998 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: But now we get to this game where they got 999 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: this big leader and we're gonna throw it on the 1000 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: quarterback for the coach that everybody hates and should be fired. Okay, 1001 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: so let's start there. Don't tell me about receivers. Tell 1002 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: me Jim Harbaugh's best receiver he's ever had in his 1003 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: coaching career. I'll give it to you. It's Michael Krabtree 1004 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. Tell me it's big time 1005 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: receiver out in Michigan. He doesn't need that. They're gonna 1006 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: be more physical at the point. They have two of 1007 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: the top tackles in football. They have a really good defense. 1008 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: I think you move on from both defense. Yeah, yes, yo, 1009 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: guys are healthy. I mean linebacker. Look, I mean everybody's hurt. 1010 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: Bosos hurt, dur was hurt. They guys knocked out. Is 1011 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: yesterday's news. 1012 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 3: You know that. 1013 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: I know that. Just say they need to move over him. 1014 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: After the season. They're gonna move on from him, but 1015 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: you gotta get some of the some of the rubbish 1016 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: out of there. They're gonna be more physical. I think, 1017 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: what Harbor would you do? Time? Yes, but they're not 1018 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a nine win team, you know, like I 1019 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: like eight or nine wins, just saying five wins again, 1020 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: there's no way they're winning five games. Okay, if they 1021 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: win five games, then that contract that justin Harper is 1022 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous because it's for fifty five million dollars. 1023 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: Yesous if they win, but he's a five hundred quarterback, 1024 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 2: just like his predecessor, Philip Rivers. It's amazing about Philip Rivers, 1025 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 2: and I on a personal level, I loved Philip Rivers. 1026 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: He was the Gollie g father of ten Now ten kids. 1027 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 2: Imagine ten kids that just absolutely bind. 1028 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: But let's let's thread this needle. 1029 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 3: I I don't know what they're gonna do on wins, 1030 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: just because and I think this is going to be 1031 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 3: a growing pains year for them, because they have had. 1032 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: A lot of spots across across the rust of the 1033 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: need to patch up. 1034 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 3: But I think there will be a game that will 1035 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: go against what Steve is saying that there will be 1036 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 3: a game where we can point to and say Justin 1037 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 3: Herbert won that game. 1038 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 9: For the Los Angeles Chargers, they they play, they have 1039 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 9: a pretty tough schedule. I think the AFC is stat 1040 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 9: they have. They have a road game at the Panthers 1041 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 9: in week two. I think they probably win that one. 1042 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 9: And they have a road game at the Cardinals in 1043 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 9: the middle of October. They probably win that one. Everything 1044 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 9: else is like divisional or at the Steelers. Y. 1045 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: I got news for you. 1046 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 2: There's gonna be growing pains. This this is this is 1047 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: a process. This is the Charger organization. This is an 1048 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: organization that only wins by accident, it's never by game plan. 1049 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: That's why the hiring of Jim Harborow is orchestrated by 1050 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: the league to try to get this right. Because the 1051 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 2: Chargers register a zero in the city of Los Angeles 1052 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: and the league is trying to move their entire operation 1053 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 2: to LA. They got Sofi Stadium, they got everything going, 1054 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 2: except they have a team that literally registers a zero 1055 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 2: in the market. You gotta change the coach. Great hire, 1056 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna it's going to be a process. Well, Jim 1057 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: harb I don't think will be successful. I don't think 1058 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 2: that losses or no change what the Chargers are in LA. 1059 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: That is a you moved the wrong team to l 1060 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: A problem. Well that was that was part of the deal. 1061 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: Should have been the Raiders and Rams should have been 1062 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: here and Chargers should have stayed in San Diego on 1063 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: that point of but I'm just gonna I'm still gonna 1064 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: talk this. I'm still gonna stand. 1065 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 2: Kronkey basically threaten to sue the league unless he gave 1066 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: him l A and that Jerry Judge, Jerry Judges reminded 1067 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 2: all the owners about the money that was behind Kronkey. 1068 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 2: His wife is part of the Wholton fortune, and so 1069 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: he said, let's not mess with this guy. 1070 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: Give it to him. 1071 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 9: Steve, you're not a big lad McConkey guy. 1072 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be a superstar, maybe big Who could I 1073 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 3: said last year I said the Rams would be the worst. 1074 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 3: I was right on that list, the worst team in 1075 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. 1076 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: That was after a conversation I actually had with a 1077 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: Ram player that said the problem with our team we 1078 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 2: have no depth. 1079 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: Hiram Williams, are you kidding me? But what happened here? 1080 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: He's a Pro Bowl running back? What happened here? 1081 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 3: In Pro Bowl. 1082 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 9: I think the Chargers overall have the best one to 1083 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 9: two round pick of any team in the draft. To 1084 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 9: be honest with you, I love the Joe All pick. 1085 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 9: Lad McConkie is a better takeaway than I don't know what. 1086 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about, but I do know Le. 1087 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and I'm with you with Slater. Slater, 1088 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got bookend tackles for the next decades. 1089 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: They're more physical. One thing Harball does do you guys 1090 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: can't deny once again. Put the tape on. They're more 1091 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 1: physical the minute he's they're more physical, and they're more 1092 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: fundamental the minute he takes the job. It's it's it's in. 1093 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: It's in the proof of what he's done. Guys. We 1094 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: can all throw out certain games and certain teams. That's 1095 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I'm telling you the turnaround starts immediately, 1096 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: because that's how football is won. Football is won in 1097 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: one or two places. On the offensive line, in the 1098 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: defensive line. He never fails there. He's never failed there, 1099 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: no matter where he's been. And he's got two book 1100 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: and tackles to run the football. Throw it tight ends. 1101 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about names and receivers. Tell me, 1102 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: once again, tell me his receivers over his coaching career. 1103 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: Somebody remind me of average guys, and you get a quarterback, Joe. 1104 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: Once again, if Justin, If this is not supposed to 1105 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: be a quick turnaround, and you're telling me Justin Herbert's 1106 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: not the guy. 1107 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,399 Speaker 9: I think there's something to the idea of lessons more 1108 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 9: with Justin Herbert, because you're. 1109 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna slow it down. Well, he's definitely got less 1110 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: so they're gonna slow it down. Bro, they're gonna dance. No, 1111 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: there you go. I said it a few I think 1112 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: you might have been doing the show a producer show 1113 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: with Martin not where I brought that up. I said, look, 1114 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: they're not gonna get they're not gonna win track meets. 1115 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: So they're not winning thirty eight, thirty six. We know that, 1116 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: but that's not what hardball teams do. They pound you, 1117 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: they beat you up, they get physical with you. They're 1118 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a stronger team. He brought the strengthen conditioning 1119 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: guy from Michigan down Ware. They talked about how they 1120 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: rearranged the weight room so that as you're even racking 1121 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: the weights back. It is a way to work the 1122 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: bi These are things guys in football that matter on 1123 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 1: the field. 1124 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 3: And it's not a joke that it's happened and everywhere 1125 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 3: he's been. Yeah, it's like I was saying earlier. Sometimes 1126 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 3: when you have a competent run game and a physical 1127 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 3: game to go with it, it makes the. 1128 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: Quarterback better Again. And like I look at Jared Goff, 1129 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: I look at Detroit. 1130 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 3: I look at what they had to do like that 1131 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: first year, the football and rough, but yes, once they 1132 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 3: got a ground game going, Look what Jared Goff can 1133 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 3: do when he's got a play action working for him. 1134 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 3: Look what happens when you have a rounded offense rather 1135 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: than just go asking a guy go out there. 1136 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: To go out there and just win it. For this 1137 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: is the eighties. This is a I'm a Dolphin fan, 1138 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: lifelong Dolphin fan, nineteen eighty three. I grew up as 1139 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: a kid watching a coach ask a quarterback to go 1140 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: win it for me. How did that work out for Miami? 1141 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady needed a run game. They're gonna be more 1142 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: physical guys. 1143 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: I just love the fact. And again this is coming 1144 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: from a Jim Harbaugh fan. Howeveryone ignores his first six 1145 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: years in Michigan. I'm not ignoring bull win, four ball losses, 1146 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: zero wins against Ohio State. Urban Meyer did a beatdown 1147 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: on him on an annual then Ryan Day continued to 1148 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 2: beat him down two great years down the stretch. 1149 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: That's what we had where and how do you how 1150 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: do you leave? 1151 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: He left on top, which is a very smart move 1152 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 2: by but the ideas Again, he did not do any 1153 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 2: immediate turnaround. 1154 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: The straight conference championships in the Big Ten first time done, 1155 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: not by Woody Hayes, not by bo. It took him. 1156 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 3: It took him seven years to get to the top 1157 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 3: of the Big Ten. 1158 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: So you're telling us so going from going from four 1159 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: wins to ten wins in one years not a turnaround. 1160 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm just asking, I just want to know where your 1161 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: mythology is with this. 1162 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 3: Again, he was not The idea Michigan is to beat 1163 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 3: Ohio State and vice versa. Okay, that's not the Remember 1164 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 3: what Jim Trestl was, Remember what that? 1165 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 2: But that is what the what what Michigan fans want 1166 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 2: in an immediate turnaround, beat Ohio State. 1167 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: Okay, but we're not worried about what the fans want. 1168 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: We want, we want what's real and what's on the table? 1169 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: When you go from four to ten wins three years 1170 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: in a row, is it not turning a program around 1171 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: even though you can't beat the rival? Did you not 1172 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: turned the program around him? 1173 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 3: Because you didn't get to you were third place in 1174 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 3: the East. 1175 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: All the Chargers win ten games, but they don't beat 1176 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's not a turnaround the expectations. 1177 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 2: So the Chargers are very minimal, one of the worst 1178 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: organizations in all the NFL. 1179 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: They ever get to Harbor? Did Harbor get to a show? 1180 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm asking you due the Chargers ever get. 1181 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 3: Super Bowl with Harball? I believe it, Jim Harbor. But 1182 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna take South. 1183 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: Not a year one, not year one? E Moore wins 1184 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: for the Chargers, guys, no chance, no chance. 1185 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: Anyone want to bet that the Chargers win nine plus 1186 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: games they have a winning record next year? 1187 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: No, I got eight or more. I'm not not not 1188 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: not plus nine. I said eight or more wins. Now 1189 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: now we're down eight? Yeah, said eight or nine wins? Okay, 1190 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: you know what, fun I'll stay at nine nine. That's 1191 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: a winning record. Nine and eight, nine or more wins 1192 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: for the Chargers. 1193 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 3: Anybody buying the Chargers at nine and eight next. 1194 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: Year, anybody wants to do a two leader bet or 1195 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: a wing bet, I'm here two leader. I like sugar 1196 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: free ginger, lease it. 1197 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: And again I think give Harbor time Canada driver seats, 1198 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: stay out of the way and it will figure this out. 1199 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: But not in your one. I will continue on. You're 1200 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna hear, You're gonna hear, Steve, and I don't want 1201 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: to know hard feelings down the road. We're friends, man, 1202 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: We're Corley's I love you, brother. You're gonna hear this 1203 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: so much from me, Bro, I'm telling you right now. 1204 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll tell you what. 1205 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to every year we 1206 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 2: have a team like the Houston Texans. 1207 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: We're a year all right, got you? All right? 1208 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 3: You on the other side, give me that team that 1209 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 3: is on nobody's radar. 1210 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: And believe me, the. 1211 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 3: Chargers are on people's radar because they have Jim Harbaugh. Okay, 1212 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: give me a team that is on zero radars that 1213 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 3: you tell me is gonna have the biggest leap year 1214 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 3: to year in terms of wins from twenty twenty three 1215 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty got all right, We'll have that on 1216 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 3: their side. 1217 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin Husky, Yes, Sir Fock 1218 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Once again, we are live from the tai 1219 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: Iraq dot Com studios. I get anything's revved up here 1220 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: on this Sunday as always all right, So before we 1221 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 2: went to break because every single year, Actually it's interesting 1222 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 2: how this works. As I was doing a little back 1223 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 2: research on this, it really comes down to almost every 1224 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 2: single year, based on preseason expectations, there are five or 1225 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: six teams each year that do way better than we expect. Yeah, 1226 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 2: and there are five or six teams every year that 1227 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 2: conversely do way worse than we expected. I mean last year, 1228 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 2: the two teams that really stood out were obviously the Texans. 1229 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, if you would just say, would you bet 1230 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 2: every penny you have that the Texans are going to 1231 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: be a playoff team before that season with a rookie quarterback, 1232 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 2: a rookie coach, anonymous skill guys like, no chance, no way, 1233 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 2: no how. The Rams were pretty close. The Rams are 1234 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 2: coming off an awful year. It looked like they were 1235 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 2: just winding things up. They had sold the future in 1236 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 2: terms of any kind of depth or anything else to 1237 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 2: win that souper, which they were successful in doing so. 1238 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: Now they had to pay. Yeah, and yet Kyram Williams, 1239 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: you know Pooka to go on what happens. So every 1240 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 2: single year, you're gonna get a number of teams. But 1241 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you for a team. And I'm looking 1242 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 2: for a team that nobody is talking about right now. 1243 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm out talking about winning a super Bowl, but making 1244 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Yes, making the playoffs. Give me a team 1245 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: right now that no one is picking to make the 1246 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: playoffs in twenty twenty four that you think would like 1247 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 1248 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Perfet, you got your Arizon Baby, you're listening right now. 1249 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: This is for you. This is for you, Minnesota Vikings. 1250 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 1: I like the Minnesota Vikers to have a big, big 1251 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: bounce back year. Detroit has still to class of this division. 1252 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: Chris Detroit, Detroit. Hey, you got me last year, brother, 1253 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: salute to you. 1254 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 3: You know me. 1255 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: I take my L's, I'll take my WS two. I 1256 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: take my Victory Labs two. You got me last year 1257 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: you called Detroit to win the division. You got a brother, 1258 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: and I think you guys win the division this year. 1259 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: I love I love that team, but I think the 1260 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: Vikings have a big bounce back this year. They lost 1261 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and they lost Justin Jefferson. They lost their 1262 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: two most important players last year. Right when they were 1263 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: hitting their stride, they got added the gate a little slow, 1264 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: but right when they were hitting their stride, the hamstring comes. 1265 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: He goes on I R and then right after that 1266 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: the achilles blows. And in the documentary, the doctor said, 1267 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: as soon as he touched down on the ankle of Kirk, 1268 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: he looked up and tod him, is your achilles? You're 1269 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: done for the year, Like right then and there before 1270 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: they get to the locker room. Ain't a right none, No, 1271 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: his achilles is gone. Yeah, he's done for the year. 1272 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: That they played four quarterbacks last year, and I think 1273 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: that you bringing Aaron Jones who's got a chip on 1274 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: his shoulder and still got some juice running the ball 1275 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: left in the tank. I love the receiver Corps and Osbourne. 1276 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison won the Blitt the Call Award for Pitt 1277 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: before he went to USC. The kids legit Justin Jefferson. 1278 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: People think are the is the best receiver football. TJ. 1279 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: Hackinson is a top five ride receiver. By the way, 1280 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver in football. It's 1281 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: a coin flip for me either giving either him or 1282 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, because Tyreek Hill can blow the top. 1283 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 3: Tyrie Hill is a different type of receiver than Jefferson's 1284 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 3: still a receiver, though. 1285 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's a coin flip. You could if 1286 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: you want justin Jefferson, you want time, you want you 1287 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: want Cheetah either or uh Floreses. On defense, win blitz 1288 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: win percentage rate number one in the league the last 1289 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: twenty four months. They get to the quarterback in Minnesota 1290 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: and they've been doing a damn good job. He may 1291 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: not be a good head coach and he'll get an 1292 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: opportunity later in his career, but the one thing he 1293 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: can do is coordinated damn defense. Last year, that defense 1294 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: kept him in a lot of football games. Last year, 1295 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: they just didn't have the offensive pieces. And I think 1296 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: you plug in a rookie quarterback like JJ McCarthy, who's 1297 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: been shown do you get it to your tight end, 1298 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: you hand the ball, you throw it in the flats, 1299 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,439 Speaker 1: and you have all these weapons that you've never seen 1300 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: before to be able to get the ball to his 1301 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: best receiver. Michigan was Roman Wilson. It's the best guy 1302 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: he had to throw the ball to. 1303 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 6: No. 1304 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: I got Justin Jefferson, I got kJ Osborne, I got 1305 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, I got TJ. Hockinson. And you're giving me 1306 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 1: a running back that's probably got a big chip on 1307 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: the shoulder. This feels like a Ladanian Thomlinson year his 1308 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: first with the Jets once saf So what's the Chargers like? 1309 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: You're a little old. He still had almost ran four 1310 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: thousand that year, and that's all they need out of 1311 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones about eight hundred nine hundred yards because you 1312 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: got other running backs and other backs that can do 1313 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: some different things. I still think the lines are the 1314 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: class of this division. But I think the Bears are 1315 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: severely overrated. They still have a ricky quarterback. I have 1316 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: my question the way. 1317 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 3: Did you see that Eberflush is the favorite to be. 1318 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: The coach of the how? I'm with you, how, But 1319 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: I think Caleb I break down quarterback man. There's a 1320 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of holes in his game. He makes the Mahomes comparisons, 1321 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: creates this narrative that that's what we look for, but 1322 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: basic quarterback fundamentals. His feet are normally all over the 1323 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: place and he holds the ball. I don't know if 1324 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: that's hero ball just to make a play, but a 1325 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: lot of times he holds the ball misses a lot 1326 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: of open guys. I think the Bears still have some 1327 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: issues there, and I like the Packers. I think this 1328 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: division could possibly get three teams in because I don't 1329 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: feel so strong about the other NFC divisions, especially the 1330 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: NC only get one team in. You can win that 1331 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: division at eight and nine. You can win that division 1332 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 1: this year at eight or nine or nine and eight. 1333 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: They only get one team in the NFC East, I 1334 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: think the Eagles. They don't have a repeat. They don't 1335 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: have a repeat champion in that division for at twenty 1336 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: something years, so it won't be the Cowboys winning it 1337 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: this year. The Cowboys just feel like the team that 1338 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: can just fall off the map. The Giants are bad, 1339 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: the Commanders are bad. That division could get one team in. 1340 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: I think the West gets two teams in. I think 1341 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the NFC South North, excuse me, can get three teams in. 1342 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 1: The Vikings I think can get the ten or eleven 1343 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: wins to get to the playoffs. 1344 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: I like your raising on that. I'm not against the Vikings. 1345 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: I think that they can get it done again. They 1346 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: have some weapons there. 1347 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Plenty of them. 1348 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get started on my prediction because mine is 1349 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 2: so out of left field, but I'm gonna explain why 1350 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 2: what we call addition through subtraction. Uh oh, So you 1351 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 2: remember a couple of years ago the Seattle Seahawks have 1352 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 2: a farewell to Russell Wilson and a lot of people 1353 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 2: we're predicting, including yours truly, that the Seahawks were definitely 1354 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: trying to basically gut the team to get the number 1355 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 2: one pick in the draft. 1356 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you get Drew Locke, who. 1357 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Everyone knows sucks, and then they signed Geno Smith, who 1358 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 2: at that time I didn't even know Geno Smith was 1359 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 2: still in the league, to be honest here wow. 1360 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1361 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: By the way, quick side note on Geno Smith. This 1362 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 2: is a true story. So I'm in New Orleans covering 1363 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the year that Geno Smith is coming 1364 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 2: out in the draft. Pat O'Brian and I are out 1365 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 2: there and they tell us that Geno Smith is around. 1366 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 2: We could do an interview, but Pat was doing another interview, 1367 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 2: so I said, don't worry, I'll do a one on one. 1368 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I was going to tape this with Geno Smith. 1369 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 2: Right, And if you remember Geno Smith last year at 1370 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 2: West Virginia, he got a lot of hype early in 1371 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: the year, absolutely right. You know, basically he was throwing 1372 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 2: bubble screens to Austin what's his name over there and 1373 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Tavon Austin, So he was throwing the little bubble screens 1374 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 2: and then Tavon Austin would run seventy yards for a touchdown. 1375 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting down with Geno Smith and my first question. 1376 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 3: We're taping. This is not a live we're taping this. 1377 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: I said, so, Gina, where do you expect to hear 1378 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: your name in the draft? And he just gives me 1379 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 2: this look and I'm like, oh, so you have an idea. 1380 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: And he looks at me straight faced and he goes, 1381 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: are you like the only one that doesn't know that 1382 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm the first pick in the draft? Oh? Wow, are 1383 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: you serious? 1384 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 4: Oh no? 1385 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 3: He was straight face, and I'm like, like it was commonplace, 1386 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 3: like like he was Caleb Williams, He's Andrew like he's 1387 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 3: going to be there. He like, you, are you the 1388 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 3: only person that doesn't know already that I'm the first 1389 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 3: pick in the draft. So then I looked at him 1390 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 3: like I didn't know if he was half in jest, 1391 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 3: but he was straight face, and I'm like, so you've 1392 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 3: been told that? 1393 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: And he goes he looks at me like are you 1394 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: insulting me? How dare you? How dare you? 1395 01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 6: Like? 1396 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: Dare you? Heartness? And so I'm the hell you think 1397 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you are? 1398 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 3: This is basically so I had to play along with it, 1399 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 3: like I'm like, so, Gino, okay, so your people have 1400 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 3: told you you're going to be the first pick. 1401 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: In the draft. 1402 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 2: So we're talking about it like he's going to be 1403 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: the first pick in the draft. Yeah, so obviously he wasn't. 1404 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 2: He was the guy in the back room that got 1405 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 2: to sit there the entire. 1406 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Day last in the first round, right our second round. 1407 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: He was second round. If I'm not e J. What 1408 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: was who was the quarterback out of Florida state? That 1409 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,959 Speaker 1: j Manuel out of Southern Virginia baby state. 1410 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the number. He was the top quarterback 1411 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 3: taken on that draft. By the way, all right, I 1412 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 3: want to continue on because Gino Smith plays a big 1413 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 3: part in the team. 1414 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm picking to be by far the biggest shaker this 1415 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 2: year in the NFL. But First, let's find out what 1416 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: is trendy. Moncey is here. 1417 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: I am here, Monty. Who you got is your surprise? NFL? 1418 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Is it the Chargers? 1419 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I understand why Steve says that's not a 1420 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 8: surprise type of thing, but that is who I have 1421 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 8: as like making a big jump. 1422 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Well again at jim Meani getting into the playoffs like 1423 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 3: the Rams did a year ago or the Texans did 1424 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 3: a year ago. 1425 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. 1426 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 3: Team, not to win a super Bowl, but just to 1427 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 3: get into the place. 1428 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it may be even more than just 1429 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 7: making the playoffs. Maybe just because I'm literally wearing my 1430 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 7: Charger shirt today. 1431 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 1: I saw that you bring me to the Monster Burrito. Yeah, yeah, 1432 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I saw that. 1433 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 8: I know it's one of my favorite Charger shirts because 1434 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 8: it doesn't look like a Charger shirt. 1435 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 7: You got to pay attention. You gotta know what you're 1436 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 7: looking for. 1437 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1438 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 7: So maybe I'm just being hopeful since all of my 1439 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 7: other teams suck, you. 1440 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 9: Know what I'm saying. 1441 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Like your dog, I think she's a guy. 1442 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 3: She's a die hard Clippers and I'm telling getting rid 1443 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 3: of that cancer on the team, George is a plus for. 1444 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 7: The It is a plus. I don't miss him. 1445 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: He called you you you angered Martin and I last 1446 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: when we felt him for convenient rich and you saw 1447 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: you taught you saw what I said? Yeah, no, I 1448 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: thought it was uncalled for the podcast just things. 1449 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 8: It was uncalled for it. 1450 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 7: Just move on, bro, and it is co host like, 1451 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 7: I don't know if you saw the tweets. His host 1452 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 7: was like clippers anyway, and then he took it down. 1453 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 7: It's like that's it, go away, go away. 1454 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 3: He was insulted by that initial sixty million dollar a year. 1455 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 7: Good luck Philly. Bye, all right, that's probably what the 1456 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 7: Oriole said to the Yankees. 1457 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Bye. 1458 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 8: The Yankees were up, and then the Ools loaded the bases. 1459 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 8: In the ninth inning, Cedric Mullins with the two RBI 1460 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 8: double walked it off Alex Verdugo and left field was 1461 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 8: so shallow it was totally a catchable ball. Tries to 1462 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 8: run back falls. It's quite funny. And the Orioles beat 1463 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 8: the Yankee sixty five. 1464 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 7: It was funny. It was funny. 1465 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,479 Speaker 8: Gunner Henderson did have a two run shot getting ready 1466 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 8: for that home run derby right now though it's all 1467 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 8: a's against the Phillies, that's right, that's not a typo. 1468 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 8: It's ten to three bottom of the seventh inning. In 1469 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,439 Speaker 8: that one, the Red Sox holding on to a slight 1470 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 8: lead over the Royals four three. 1471 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 7: Top of the seventh inning. 1472 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 8: Rays blanking the Guardians two zero. Bottom of the seventh, 1473 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 8: The Rockies and Mets were tied not anymore. Call Dolrado 1474 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 8: on top seven to three. Top of the seventh. The 1475 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 8: Tigers have added another run, but the Dodgers are on 1476 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 8: top three to two. They're about to start the seventh inning. 1477 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 8: Ellie de la Cruz with the two run shot ties 1478 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 8: the game for the. 1479 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 7: Reds against the Marlins two two, bottom of the seventh. 1480 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 7: The Pirates are now beating the White Sox four to two. 1481 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 7: Top of the fifth inning. 1482 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 8: The Rangers still on top of the Astros two to one. 1483 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 8: Top of the sixth All Brewers so far against the 1484 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 8: National seven two. They're about to start the fifth inning. 1485 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 8: Cubs are now on top of the Cardinals four to two, 1486 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 8: top of the sixth inning. 1487 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 7: In the WNBA, Asia Wilson has. 1488 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 8: Six points and the Mystics are beating the Aces thirty 1489 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 8: three to twenty two with about seven minutes to go 1490 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 8: in the first half. The Aces are fifteen and seven 1491 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 8: the mystics, just to give you an idea, six and seventeen. 1492 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 8: Asia Wilson just six points so far in the game. 1493 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 8: Let's check in on Euro twenty twenty four, the final 1494 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 8: that I'm sure my parents are watching. My mom hates Spain. 1495 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 8: She's going for Igland. After thirty three minutes, this match 1496 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 8: is scoreless. You can catch all the action on Fox TV, 1497 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 8: and then later today it's the Coopa America Fine, also 1498 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 8: on Fox TV between Columbia and Argentina that kicks off 1499 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 8: at eight Eastern time. 1500 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 7: And in NFL news, unfortunate news that former Ravens receiver Super. 1501 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 8: Bowl champion Jacoby Jones passed away, apparently overnight in his sleep, 1502 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 8: at the age of forty. 1503 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 7: No cause of death has been announced. 1504 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 8: Carlos alcaaz one Wimbledon, defeating Novak Djokovic for the second 1505 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 8: street year, this time in straight sets. 1506 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, thank you very much. 1507 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 2: Fine, see we'll check in with you a little bit 1508 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 2: later on once again, Hartman Husky here Fox Sports Sunday. 1509 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 2: We're talking about teams that are going to come out 1510 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: of nowhere to make it to the playoffs in twenty 1511 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 2: twenty four. Vja has already put his hat in the 1512 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: ring with the Minnesota Vikings. Chris is going to have 1513 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 2: an entry. Maybe Bo's got one as well coming up here, 1514 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 2: but I'm going to give you mine. So I was 1515 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 2: talking about the Seahawks when they big farewell to Russell Wilson, 1516 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 2: they ended up putting Gino Smith. 1517 01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. 1518 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 2: In fact, it was funny because you know, Smith was 1519 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 2: comeback Player of the Year and I remember thinking, come 1520 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 2: back from what he never was anything. He got paid too, 1521 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 2: I mean, and he got paid and now they're relevant. 1522 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 2: You know why because they have a good coach. His 1523 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 2: name is Pete Carroll. Give you another team that appears 1524 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 2: to be well rudderless right now in terms of quarterback 1525 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 2: after getting rid of Russell Wilson, and. 1526 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 1: That would be the Denver Broncos. 1527 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I think the same fate that happened to the Seahawks 1528 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 2: after they got rid of Russell Wilson and happened upon 1529 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 2: Gino Smith is gonna happen this year. 1530 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,480 Speaker 1: With the Denver Broncos. 1531 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 3: What Zach Wilson, Jared Stidham, No, how about the rookie 1532 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 3: bow Knicks. 1533 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeh, Bo Nicks is not a normal rookie in the NFL. 1534 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 2: He played five full years as a starting well, he's 1535 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 2: a full twenty four I mean twenty five in January. 1536 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 2: He played five years, three years in the SEC two 1537 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 2: obviously at Oregon, and I loved everything I saw from him. 1538 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 2: At Oregon. He couldn't beat Washington. Michael Pennix had his number, 1539 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 2: no question about that. But now Sean Payton has a 1540 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 2: quarterback that he wants. Yeah, he has a quarterback that 1541 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: he will take in, much as he took in Drew Brees. 1542 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 2: I know Brees have been with the Chargers, but he 1543 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 2: reinvented Drew Brees to fit his system. He could not 1544 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 2: do it out with Russell Wilson. He will do that 1545 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 2: with bow Knicks. That defense that was so bad, like 1546 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 2: when they put a gave up seventy, We're thinking this 1547 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 2: is this is not just bad, this is his start. 1548 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 2: But they turned that defense around and by the end 1549 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 2: of the year the Broncos actually statistically were one of 1550 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 2: the best defenses in the league. 1551 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: The schedule help that too. We have to make sure 1552 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: we did the schedule help that. They played some really 1553 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: bad teams in like a five week span. 1554 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 2: But much as I'm a believer in Pete Carroll and 1555 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 2: the idea of that Pete carrolly you know who makes 1556 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: who you know quarterback making the coach I believe and 1557 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 2: the odds are now the bow Knicks as a rookie, again, 1558 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 2: not a normal rookie, because he had five full seasons 1559 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 2: as a starter at the collegiate level at Auburn and Oregon. 1560 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna be a starting quarterback. And obviously we saw 1561 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 2: what happened a year ago in Houston with CJ. 1562 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Stroud. 1563 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 3: This is a veteran coach, Sean Payton, that understands the 1564 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 3: quarterback position as well as anybody. 1565 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos, mark my word. This is why the 1566 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 2: Chargers are not gonna be the team you think the 1567 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 2: arey there is. They're not gonna be that team. The 1568 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Raiders are not gonna be that team. If there's gonna 1569 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 2: be a team that's gonna. 1570 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 3: Trail the Chiefs and get in as a wild card, 1571 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna be the Denver Broncos. Now Denver Broncos will 1572 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 3: make the playoffs in twenty twenty four. 1573 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: No, that's not happen. I love your Seattle pick though, 1574 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: because I was high on Seattle last year. The only 1575 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: thing about this division this year in the NFC West, 1576 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: I think this division is better than most people want 1577 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: to give it credit for. The Niners are still powerful, 1578 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: although I don't think they get back to the super Bowl. 1579 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: Only two teams have gotten back to the super Bowl 1580 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: after losing it the following year in the last thirty years. 1581 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: That's the Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots. So 1582 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: that's nothing that happens. They got the talent to do it, 1583 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with the thirty year history on that. 1584 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a new NFC representative. I like 1585 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 1: the Rams. I really like the Rams. You talk about 1586 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 1: a guy that can coach. Let's let's go ahead and 1587 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 1: get Sean McVay his flowers. Right now, he's got a 1588 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring and he's coaching another super Bowl. And 1589 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: they know they know how to draft guys, man, and 1590 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: they make mistakes and they get guys like Todd Gurley 1591 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: is an afterthought now, right, They got a running back 1592 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: and they got a running game. There, you got a quarterback, 1593 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Everybody blamed everything on him in Detroit, Okay, 1594 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: no problem, get rid of him, you know, that this 1595 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: was the first. 1596 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 3: Time he ever actually legitimately made the Pro Bowl. The 1597 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 3: only other Pro Bowl hit ever. 1598 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: He was an alternation. 1599 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 3: This was the first time in his career that he 1600 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 3: actually was voted legitimately into the Pro Bowl. 1601 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: And the year they had the Super Bowl hangover. I 1602 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: think they needed that year because they pushed all their 1603 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: chips And people don't understand. Man, When you push all 1604 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 1: your chips in on the season and you and you 1605 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: and you get it done, it takes it takes a 1606 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: like you almost you get a chance to go. Remember 1607 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Steve Young having a teammate pulled the monkey off his 1608 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: on the sideline for the NFL films care But you 1609 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: could tell that really was I got one. I don't 1610 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: need another one. I always say the Super Bowl ring 1611 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: is the one time you only need one. You only 1612 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: need one Stanley Cup once exactly. But in the NBA 1613 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: you gotta win five and six. Right in the Major 1614 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: League Baseball, you got to win four and five World 1615 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: CERI no man, Stanley Cups, Super Bowl. All you need 1616 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: is won they ring loud. I like Seattle on this 1617 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: division that Denver pick for you. I agree with you 1618 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 1: on bo Knicks. I think Bow Knicks is gonna be 1619 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 1: a lot better because he's a more mature guy. 1620 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 3: He has a coach and Sean Kayden. 1621 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this this idea that young and running and accurate. 1622 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't there's nothing I don't like about 1623 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,639 Speaker 2: bo Nicks. They still have a lot of other holes 1624 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 2: on this team. Though I think there's defenses average. 1625 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: They have a lot of holes here on offense. I'm 1626 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: interested to see. But charges. The Chargers have Chargers in 1627 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: the AFC, so you got them in the AFC, So 1628 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 1: you got. 1629 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 3: Them winning second in the AFC West, Chargers will be third, 1630 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 3: Raiders will be fourth. 1631 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,080 Speaker 1: So Jags, so we know you got the Jagson n 1632 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 1: AFC South. You got to You got to tell. 1633 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 3: Hi Trevor Lawrence the jury's out. 1634 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: By the way, think about that, five quarterbacks taking the 1635 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 2: first fifteen picks of that draft three years ago, and 1636 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 2: four of them are no longer with their team. 1637 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so but he's the only survivor. But just real fast, 1638 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: if the Broncos are making the playoffs, so I got Casey, Cincinnati, 1639 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore wild card teams in Miami. Those teams are going 1640 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Who's didn't for knocking out because I 1641 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,440 Speaker 1: know I'm missing somebody. 1642 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 3: Right, I think Miami's in trouble. Oh lord, did you 1643 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 3: see them fade away last year? At the end of 1644 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 3: the year, you walk, you saw the trajectory of the 1645 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins last year. 1646 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: You got to tell the complete stories. Why did they fail? 1647 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 1: Why did they fade? Tell the whole story? Doesn't matter 1648 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: what the story is. No, no, that does matter. You 1649 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: had a home game, faded, Wattle, Wadle out, Tyreek out, 1650 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Louise Phillips, lose Chubb a quarterback, Louise Van Gating, Stop it, 1651 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 1: Louise van Giegle. I'm naming guys that matter. Okay, I'm 1652 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: not naming Johnny trum Lately's off the sideline, so they 1653 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: lo there. We were signing people off the street. The rush, 1654 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Maholmes going into that game of a home game 1655 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: to win the division. You chook, we blued the Tennessee game. 1656 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: You're right, we blew a Tennessee game. The different game 1657 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't matter because I mean, I mean it's common. The 1658 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo game didn't matter. 1659 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 2: The trajectory reminds me of the Chargers two years ago 1660 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 2: and their trajectory when they lost that playoff game to 1661 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Jacksonville had a last year. 1662 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: Go eleven and six last year. So were you got 1663 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: Miami this year? Okay. 1664 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 3: On the other side, we'll get Chris bo. 1665 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you have you have that team? 1666 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,919 Speaker 3: He's got one as well. Which teams come out of nowhere? 1667 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Watch it? I'm telling you, Mike Broncos genius. 1668 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Right, this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin VJ. Husky, 1669 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Harbin and Husky Fox Sports Sunday. We're alive from the 1670 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 2: tyrack dot Com studios. All right, I want to get 1671 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 2: right to it. All right, Chris, what you got see Bo? 1672 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 2: You've heard our picks. So VJ is saying the Minnesota Vikings. Yes, 1673 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 2: the fact that they lose their quarterback, no problem. They 1674 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 2: will bounce back in a big way and they will 1675 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 2: be a playoff team. I'm even going a step further 1676 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 2: that with a rookie quarterback, the Denver Broncos are going 1677 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 2: to shock the world and be a playoff team. 1678 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: This real quick. Minnesota is going to have a rookie too. 1679 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's going to be the starter. It's Sam Donald. 1680 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: If Sam Donald starts, they're they're shooting himselves in the stand. Anyway. 1681 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: I promised. I promised, Chris, especially that you would not 1682 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: bring up JJ McCarthy. You know he thinks that he 1683 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: is so bad. 1684 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,640 Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think McCarthy's actually okay. But you know, 1685 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 3: all right, so Chris, let's start with you give us 1686 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 3: the team that nobody is talking about. 1687 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 1: To be a playoff team in twenty twenty. 1688 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 3: First off honorable mention. I think the Cardinals will do better, 1689 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 3: but they are not my pick. I do like kind 1690 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,759 Speaker 3: of how they look near the end of that season. 1691 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 3: Adding Marvin Harrison Junior should not be understated, especially making 1692 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray improve. But I think sometimes all you need 1693 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 3: is a little seasoning. Last year, you had a rookie 1694 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 3: head coach, a first time head coach, you had a 1695 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. You had a team coming off some tremendously 1696 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 3: bad times that they've had, and they showed flash and 1697 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 3: promise ultimately derailed by injuries. And I'm talking about and 1698 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 3: it pains me. I think, Steve, you know my history 1699 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 3: with this team and how certain writers for this team 1700 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 3: have tried to get me fired. Oh, but it is 1701 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts. I do like the Colts coming into 1702 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 3: this year for several reasons. I do what we saw 1703 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 3: of Anthony Richardson has me extremely hopeful for that team. 1704 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 3: I loved his talent through college. I loved what he 1705 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 3: has looked so far in the NFL up until he 1706 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,679 Speaker 3: was hurt. They've been adding trying to add talents around 1707 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 3: him Shane Steike and again first time as a head coach. 1708 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 3: But I like what he's brought to the Colts. As 1709 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 3: far as an offense. You look at that Division two 1710 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 3: eminently winnable. How you feel about the Jaguars, We've all 1711 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 3: been mixed on how we feel about the Jaguars here. 1712 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 3: I think we can disregard the Tennessee Titans. So it 1713 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 3: just comes back to the question of do you think 1714 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 3: the Houston Texans can repeat as a threat, and that 1715 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 3: is tough to do what they did last year. I 1716 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 3: do like what they have done, but I feel like 1717 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 3: always we say this every year, there's always new blood 1718 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,760 Speaker 3: in every division every year, and I think following with that, 1719 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 3: following talents of a quarterback that should be healed up 1720 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,560 Speaker 3: and improved, following a coach getting his systems in for 1721 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 3: a second year, and the other talent that's on that team. 1722 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 3: I do like the Indianapolis Colts to come out of 1723 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 3: because I don't think anyone's talking about the Colts. It's 1724 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 3: the AFC South first. Well, the overrun on the Colts 1725 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 3: is about it, eight and a half wins. I like 1726 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 3: the Colts, I don't know if they're that far of 1727 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 3: a reach, especially in that division. 1728 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: I want to point out too, so this bounces for 1729 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: them and for the Texas for everybody that loves the Texans. 1730 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: Let's not act like the Colts have that game in hand. 1731 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 1: The last game of the year, the coach decides to 1732 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: call a throwout to the flat to a fallback who 1733 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: you have only targeted one time previously all year long. 1734 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,760 Speaker 1: It's a perfect throw. He flied out, drops it all 1735 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 1: fourth and one, and that's how Houston wins that division. 1736 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 1: So I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at 1737 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 1: that pig. 1738 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 3: And again, that's that's way past when Anthony Richardson shut 1739 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 3: down for the shutdown in week richard now was phenomenal. 1740 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 1: He just has to stay healthy and that's the biggest 1741 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,679 Speaker 1: crass going to be the problem. That's gonna be the problem. 1742 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,720 Speaker 1: But they also got Uncle Flacco as their backup right now, 1743 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 1: who was shown Hey, I may not be ay Gee seventeen, 1744 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: but I'll give you eight and nine if a guy 1745 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:25,960 Speaker 1: goes down. 1746 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 3: That was a miracle run for Flak. Come on now, no, 1747 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 3: I mean Flack. And then he woke up in that 1748 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 3: playoff game. 1749 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Well, no, he woke up in a play Like I said, 1750 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 1: it's not longevity. He's not gonna be a whole season. 1751 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: But if Flacco, if you need Flacco to win your 1752 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,680 Speaker 1: four or five games, I've seen him do it. 1753 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 2: If they're if they're going to be a playoff team, 1754 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 2: it's going to be Richardson all the way, all the way, 1755 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 2: all right, bo what he got for us? 1756 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,640 Speaker 9: Two teams that I think could make the playoffs but 1757 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 9: aren't really like out of the blue. I think the 1758 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 9: Browns could do it if Deshaun Watson doesn't oh go 1759 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 9: to the place again. I think the Bears can make 1760 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 9: the playoffs next year. 1761 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 1: It's slow down here, okay now. 1762 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 2: Ibra Flus is the favorite, that yeah, favorite, to be 1763 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 2: coach of the Year, which obviously is only gonna happen 1764 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 2: if they make. 1765 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 9: The play jillly Gabriel is the betting favorite to win 1766 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 9: the Heisman right now, but I don't think that's gonna happen. 1767 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 6: Either. 1768 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,679 Speaker 9: The team that's gonna maybe be out of the blue 1769 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 9: and make the playoffs next year is the Carolina Panthers. Wow, 1770 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 9: explain that one to the NFC. South sucks right, like 1771 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 9: nobody in the blows anybody away. 1772 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 1773 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 9: They have a new head coach and Dave Canalis who 1774 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 9: fixed Baker Mayfield last year. 1775 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 6: Uh. 1776 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 9: Bryce Young was a first overall pick for a reason. 1777 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 9: I don't think you can call a guy a bust 1778 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 9: after one year. 1779 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 1780 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 9: I like I like Xavier leget their first round pick 1781 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 9: out of South Caroline. He's a good wide receiver. I 1782 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 9: like Jonathan Brooks. 1783 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that that is. Now, that's a team you're picking 1784 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 1: that team? 1785 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 6: That is? 1786 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 1: If that happens, I am gonna give you. Uh. 1787 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 9: I think there's a world where that happens. It's possible. 1788 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't hate it at all. I'm 1789 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: with you, ol B. Why you know? B? Why is 1790 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,879 Speaker 1: my guy? I've been watching He's a sophomore at Cathedral 1791 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: before he transferred to Modern Day. So I'm all with 1792 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: you on B. Why the legate pick? I'm just it's 1793 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 1: it's you know, receivers, we get these big, these big 1794 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: classic receivers that come in every year, there's always one 1795 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: that falls off. Remember Terras Marshall from U LSU. That 1796 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 1: was Witt Chase, that was wit Justin Jefferson. He's he's 1797 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: almost been just kind of jet set it off and 1798 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: the guy may be out of the league in two years. Side. 1799 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 1: I think I think leg It could be that guy. 1800 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: This at this class of receivers at two or three 1801 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: years down the line, we look, we go. God man, 1802 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: they missed on another one because they went for Terras 1803 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Marshall and that didn't work out either. So you do 1804 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 1: believe in Bryce here? Look at it? Yes, I'm believing. 1805 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 3: Being in the LA we watched him develop. 1806 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:31,719 Speaker 1: I hope. 1807 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him to have a big bounce back year. 1808 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: But that is one team. I don't see how they 1809 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 1: make them playoffs. They called him both. All right, Well, 1810 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: continue I hit. 1811 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,680 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, continuing the conversation here on 1812 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 2: this edition of Fox Sports Sunday, Hartman and Husky with you. 1813 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 1814 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Tyre rack dot Com. 1815 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there and Unmatched Selection Fast 1816 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 2: three shipping free road has some protection over ten thousand 1817 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 2: recommending installers tire rack dot com the way tire buying 1818 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 2: should be. John Paul morosei JP our Fox Sports Radio 1819 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 2: MLB Insider is going to be joining us as we 1820 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 2: get rid of ready for All Star Week in Major 1821 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 2: League Baseball. So JP will be joining us coming up 1822 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: here in about fifteen minutes. Now, I like to many 1823 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 2: times defer to my partner if they have a real passion. 1824 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 2: I had no idea walking into the studio today knowing 1825 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 2: VJ as long as I have, and he's a man 1826 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 2: of passion that you would spark him bo as our 1827 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 2: producer by literally saying the words Carolina Panthers. Now, I 1828 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 2: don't know too many people right now on this date 1829 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 2: that are inspired, even Carolina Panther fans by actually uttering 1830 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 2: the words Carolina Panthers. But all of a sudden, DJ's 1831 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 2: like jumping out of his seat. Yes, I'm telling one 1832 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 2: of my endless stories that I've told a million times, 1833 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 2: you know, And everyone just heard nods their heads saying, yeah, 1834 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 2: that's an interesting story. Not really, But we'll engage with 1835 01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 2: you because I know you love to talk about your 1836 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 2: life and it's unbelievable and yeah, we get it. So 1837 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,439 Speaker 2: I always appreciate that everyone indulges me with that kind 1838 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 2: of stuff because sometimes it's got to let out the 1839 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 2: stories and people understand that, even if they really have 1840 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 2: no interest in them. But anyway, in the midst of 1841 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 2: me telling one of my riveting stories from my colorful past, 1842 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 2: Veg looks at me, goes, hey, can we get back 1843 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 2: to that Carolina Panthers sing Yeah. I'm like, seriously, Carolina Panthers. 1844 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 2: Ye okay, all right, so bo I don't know how 1845 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 2: serious he was, but we asked, give us a team 1846 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 2: that nobody is picking. 1847 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:37,760 Speaker 1: To bake the. 1848 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 2: Playoffs in twenty four, twenty twenty four, and no one 1849 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 2: is picking the Carolina Panthers. When you've had the number 1850 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 2: one pick in the draft two years in a row, 1851 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 2: no one is picking you, and when you're coming off 1852 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 2: the kind of season they had. 1853 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,679 Speaker 1: They were bad in every respect. They had no offense, 1854 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: they have no defense, they have nothing owner throwing drinks 1855 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 1: on people, all right. I get to you. 1856 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,600 Speaker 2: When they talk about Bryce Young, I was one of 1857 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 2: those that said, look, they were one hundred percent sold 1858 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 2: on Bryce Young. I was not one hundred percent sold 1859 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 2: on Frank Reich. I like Frank Reich as a man. 1860 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 2: I got to know when he was an assistant coach 1861 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: down with the San Diego Chargers as they were then known, 1862 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 2: And but I, you know, I just didn't know what 1863 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 2: we're going to see with him in terms of developing 1864 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 2: on quarterback. I think that was a bad hire with 1865 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 2: a young quarterback like Bryce Young. So it's a do 1866 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 2: over for Bryce Young. 1867 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 3: And maybe it could be a dueover like it was 1868 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 3: for Trevor Lawrence. 1869 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 2: Remember that first disastrous year with Urban Meyer, you know, 1870 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you bring in Peterson. It 1871 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 2: was a super Bowl winning coach, and all of a sudden, 1872 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 2: we saw much different Trevor Lawrence year two from year one. 1873 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,040 Speaker 2: So maybe we'll see that as far as Bryce Young. 1874 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 2: But there's got to be more to it than that. 1875 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 2: That is sparking your interest and your enthusiasm for the 1876 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,480 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers to have an incredible turnaround in twenty twenty four, explained. 1877 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 1: Well, Number one, BOE's one of my favorite people to 1878 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: talk sports with here. He knows that. No, oh, we 1879 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: could just we could just hey, how are you doing, 1880 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: how'd your wife? How's your dor? So not that we 1881 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 1: get right into it and he's thought provoking. I like 1882 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 1: guyaid thought provoking. But the reason why I like this, 1883 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: this is why you have to stop these narratives. I'm 1884 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 1: with you, Christ when we're talking you guys talk about 1885 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback being a bus right, because this is also 1886 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 1: returning the fourth ranked defense in the league last year 1887 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: that allowed under three hundred yards a game. So there's 1888 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 1: that no one talks about that. You talk about Brooks. 1889 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, But then you also add 1890 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,680 Speaker 1: him with Rashad Penny, who's going into his eighth year 1891 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: but has he's a veteran, right, you need a locker 1892 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 1: room guy. You need a guy to teach these young 1893 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: guys how to stretch, how to walk, how to talk, 1894 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,719 Speaker 1: how to sleep, how to be a professional National Football 1895 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: League player. It's a business. This is your job now, 1896 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: this is what you do. The receiver position. You still 1897 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: have me and Go and Adam Thielen, Terrace, Marshall and Leget. 1898 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: We got to just see what they're gonna be there. 1899 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 1: But you mentioned the coach that was the offensive coordinated 1900 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: from the Bucks that came over and we saw what 1901 01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: he did to Baker, and let's not act like that. 1902 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,879 Speaker 1: We all love Baker. People been crapping on Baker Mayfield 1903 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 1: for the last four or five years. He turned this 1904 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: guy around and got him one hundred million dollar check 1905 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,640 Speaker 1: right now is what he's gonna make there now. I 1906 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 1: don't know what they'll do when this guy leaves. I'm 1907 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 1: a big proponent that when your coordinator leaves is going 1908 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: to affect one side of the ball that he was 1909 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: coordinating on. We see time and Tom again. But then 1910 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 1: I go to the schedule New Orleans Chargers, Raiders, Cincy, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Denver. 1911 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Hey what I Hey, that's why I herding football to me. 1912 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 1: If Bryce takes that step, which we know he can. 1913 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've seen the kid since he was 1914 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:40,680 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. I called back to back state championships 1915 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 1: for this kid to see. I have Southern Sectional against Bosco. 1916 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 1: I've seen him with my own eyes at Alabama. Like 1917 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,799 Speaker 1: you said, he was the number one pick for a reason. 1918 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,439 Speaker 1: And I think that this defense, I like where you're 1919 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: I like where you're at with this man. This defense, 1920 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 1: like I said, Ring, they give up less than two 1921 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing again, so you can't move the ball 1922 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: against him. You can't run against him. And if you 1923 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: could get the offense to just how many times they 1924 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 1: lose last year nineteen sixteen or you know, twenty to 1925 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 1: cent scoring offense. They had zero offense last year. And 1926 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 1: the line last point was horrific. That kid was running 1927 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: for his life. That backfoot hits. He's already got to 1928 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: pull the ball down and get out of the way. 1929 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 1: Yah he's small. Yeah, you're small. If you're gonna get 1930 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: killed like that, if you're not gonna protect the kid, Yeah, 1931 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: he's gonna get killed. And you can say, oh, he's small, 1932 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 1: also to a quick sidebar. CJ. Stroud was bigger. He 1933 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: also missed two games for concussion. So kill me with 1934 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 1: the small crap. Okay, it's candle line, protect the front bo. 1935 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,080 Speaker 1: You know me? I make out landish you know picks 1936 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 1: because I don't like low hanging fruit. I love this, dude, 1937 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 1: I really do. You might be onto something. This division 1938 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be bad. We don't know what's up in 1939 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta right If Kurt's not ready, then you're going to 1940 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,400 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. You're going You're going with You're going 1941 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,599 Speaker 1: with the kid out of Washington as a rooky quarterback 1942 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: do you have the Saints. No one likes Allen. They've 1943 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 1: been crapping on Derek Carr's whole career. So don't try 1944 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 1: to feed me until this team could be a hey man. 1945 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to get back to this because, 1946 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 1: as you guys were talking, I just want to pull 1947 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 1: up some numbers and look them like, you know what 1948 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,680 Speaker 1: I forgot? This defense was pretty damn good last year. 1949 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 1: They didn't get blown out a lot. They really were 1950 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: competing with some teams. This visions crap by new offensive 1951 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,679 Speaker 1: minor head coach. I like it, buddy. 1952 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 2: By the way, you talk about a statistical anomaly, you 1953 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 2: mentioned accurately that in terms of yards giving up, this 1954 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 2: is the fourth best defense in the league. 1955 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 3: They were twenty ninth in the league in scoring defense. 1956 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what does that tell you, Well, when your 1957 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 2: offense is not moving ball, it's about field position. 1958 01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 3: That means that teams were moving the ball on short fields. 1959 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they weren't getting a lot of yards, but 1960 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 2: they still were putting up a lot of points defensively. 1961 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 2: This is I mean, they were thirty second in the 1962 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,840 Speaker 2: league in yards, dead last, thirty first in points next 1963 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 2: to last. 1964 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 1: This is bad. Here's the thing about bright Young. Eight 1965 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 1: defenses also wear down to Steve, Like, it's not just 1966 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 1: short feels you by week nine when you know your 1967 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 1: offense can't score. By week eight, Steve, these guys are 1968 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 1: going out like, all right, guys, we got to try 1969 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 1: to hold him under seventeen to have a shot today. 1970 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, the numbers could be deceiving. Here's the thing about 1971 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 3: the the stature of Bryce Young. This is what always 1972 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 3: gets to me. 1973 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 2: When Doug Flutie was winding up his career with the 1974 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 2: San Diego Chargers and he started a full season when 1975 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 2: uh Drew Brees was a rookie, and I remember his 1976 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 2: first time I really had got a chance to know 1977 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 2: this guy, Doug Flutie. And again I'm I am five eleven, 1978 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,760 Speaker 2: all right, and I'm looking at this guy like, how 1979 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:41,760 Speaker 2: tall are you really? 1980 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 6: Down? 1981 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 3: In reality he is around five eight, And I asked 1982 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 3: him just flat out, no matter what kind of arm 1983 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 3: strength he has, and he had great arm strength, and 1984 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 3: I said, how do you see anything? I mean, when 1985 01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 3: you got lineman in front of you, there's six five 1986 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 3: and they're up, how do you actually see? And he goes, 1987 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 3: here's what you have to understand, I've always been this hype. 1988 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 3: So from the time I was in high school through 1989 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 3: college and the pros, my perspective on the field has 1990 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 3: never changed. It's the same thing with Bryce Young. You say, well, 1991 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 3: how can he see anything? Well, I got news for you. 1992 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Do you think the. 1993 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman and defensive lineman and the SEC were smaller 1994 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 2: than they are in the NFL. 1995 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 1: No, they're the same guys. 1996 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,639 Speaker 3: So his perspective, even going back to his high school days, 1997 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 3: has never changed. 1998 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 1: But you got to protect him. 1999 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,599 Speaker 3: You got to give him an opportunity as he got 2000 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 3: at Alabama, to let it play develop. 2001 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I will. 2002 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 3: When he shredded Georgia to win the Heisman Trophy is 2003 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 3: what he did. He shredded george because I you know, 2004 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 3: I have a Heisman. Did you guys know I have 2005 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 3: a Heisman? 2006 01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 6: Vote? 2007 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Yes? 2008 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2009 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,439 Speaker 3: Anyway, So I remember it was very it was very 2010 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 3: up in the air that year, you know, until that 2011 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 3: game and then all of a sudden, obviously Bryce walked 2012 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,560 Speaker 3: away with the Heisman Trophy. So yeah, I especially in 2013 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 3: that divisi, Yeah, especially in that wise legit man, this 2014 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,160 Speaker 3: kid like I would say that and they'll repeat their 2015 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 3: two and fifteen no. 2016 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 1: No, And I've had a chance to meet his dad, 2017 01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: talk to his family. When you when you know people 2018 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 1: come from just good when people just come from a 2019 01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 1: good cut man, it matters, It matters, and it means something. 2020 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 1: And I went both, Like I said, I break this 2021 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 1: down and I look at it. You can look at 2022 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 1: the numbers, like I said, fourth ranked defense, last ranked offense. 2023 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 1: That you gotta protect guys, you gotta put guys around. 2024 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 1: Football is such a great sport. We're just seeing in 2025 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 1: the receiver. As you watch it, you'll you'll you'll see 2026 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco. You know what makes them so great? And 2027 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 1: number one, you know how Purty can come in and 2028 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 1: be successful. Well, it starts with an all world left 2029 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 1: tackle and Trent Williams. 2030 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Okay, he has the best skill set players in the league. 2031 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,720 Speaker 1: He has the best. Think about it, he's got the 2032 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 1: best running back in football. Yes, he has, uh what 2033 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,639 Speaker 1: the second best tight end in football because because Kelsey 2034 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,880 Speaker 1: would be one. Yeah, and I think for for anybody's money, 2035 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 1: you would probably say kills number two, er three, he's 2036 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:04,719 Speaker 1: right there right, Okay, the best offensive of versatile weapon 2037 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 1: and even ball and like go to the defensive side, 2038 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 1: by the way, let's not leave. Ay you got it? 2039 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who wants to buy away? Is his favorite receiver? 2040 01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: Do you think he'll be gone by the trade deadline 2041 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 1: this year? I heard a very powerful name in this 2042 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 1: business say that about three weeks ago, say he's gone 2043 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,760 Speaker 1: by the trade deadline. They're not gonna get it. 2044 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 3: Here's the problem teams like the forty nine ers have. 2045 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 2: This is what happened to the Rams. Remember the Rams 2046 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 2: sold out? Yeah, they sold out to win a Super 2047 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 2: Bowl chips in and they did it. But then you 2048 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta start paying people, and the cap does 2049 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 2: not sweat them on to doing New England Patriots at 2050 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 2: the end, they were able to get that last run 2051 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 2: winning three super Bowls, four super Bowls in five years. 2052 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,639 Speaker 2: And you can only kick the can down the road 2053 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,120 Speaker 2: so many times, and then eventually you got to pay. 2054 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,360 Speaker 2: And that's where the forty nine ers are facing. Not 2055 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 2: everybody's gonna get paid. Somebody has to go. 2056 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,720 Speaker 1: They like this Jinnin's kid, I feel like I feel 2057 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I you fifth fifty one of to 2058 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,639 Speaker 1: do is going to get done? Canny get done? Yes, 2059 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: But is it going to get done if they feel 2060 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 1: like this Jennings Kid and see power minds like offensive 2061 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,479 Speaker 1: whiz guys like Shanahan, Lafleur, McDaniel, that McVeigh, that Tree. 2062 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 1: They think, hey, we could plug guys. 2063 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah you need dee Bo, Yeah you need you need 2064 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:21,799 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. 2065 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 1: I can't replace those guys, but I can replace what 2066 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 1: I you does. He's a good he's a good receiver. 2067 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:28,760 Speaker 1: I was one of those, but I don't want to 2068 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 1: pay him thirty million. 2069 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 2: I was one of those guys that when the Chiefs 2070 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,960 Speaker 2: decided not to pay Tyreek Hill, I said, they're done 2071 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 2: because that was the beauty of trying to trying to 2072 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 2: defend a team that's got Kelsey and h'll pick your poison. Yeah, 2073 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,840 Speaker 2: And I thought, you're not gonna replace tyreek Hill. There's 2074 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 2: no replacement for Tyreek Hill. This is going to be 2075 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 2: a come down. Obviously it wasn't. 2076 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 1: You got Andy Reid though. That's that's he's the difference. 2077 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,560 Speaker 1: He's the You also have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, that's what 2078 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 2079 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 3: Tom Brady was the same way. Of course, you could 2080 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 3: get rid of guys, bring guys in, and Brady would 2081 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 3: find a way to make that guys start big Ben 2082 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 3: that era. 2083 01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,479 Speaker 1: Like you said, if you I'm a firm Stephen with Young, 2084 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believing this. If you have if you 2085 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 1: have a quarterback like a guy, you gotta shot every 2086 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 1: damn Sunday. If you don't have one, you have zero shot. 2087 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,599 Speaker 1: I don't care what weapons you got. I don't care 2088 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 1: what kind of defense you got. If you don't have 2089 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,519 Speaker 1: a guide to quarterback position, you got no shot. You 2090 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,640 Speaker 1: got Brady, you got Mahomes, you got Peyton, you got 2091 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,840 Speaker 1: big Bin over the last twenty years in his league. 2092 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the teams that are gonna that are 2093 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,679 Speaker 3: gonna win the Super Bowl. I know people get upset, 2094 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, Joe Burrow fan, Josh Allen fan. Some of 2095 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks. There's one franchise quarterback right now in the NFL. 2096 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,120 Speaker 3: One his name is Mahomes. 2097 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,800 Speaker 2: If the idea is winning super bowls, there's only three 2098 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,800 Speaker 2: other active quarterbacks that have won a Super Bowl. Who 2099 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 2: are the three quarterbacks active today in the NFL. 2100 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, mahoone, don't tell me, don't tell me. 2101 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Russell in a rod No, no, no. Besides Mahomes, Oh, 2102 01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in a rod and one more. Don't tell me, 2103 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 1: don't tell me, don't tell me active active active? Oh 2104 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:07,160 Speaker 1: is this flack count? 2105 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 3: Flacco does not count because he's not currently a starting quarterback. 2106 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh Man, currently a starting court Russell Russell Wilson j 2107 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 1: come on Rogers and Anon Rodgers, Russell Wilson active starting 2108 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 1: quarterback quarter It's gonna be all right, I'm out. This 2109 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 1: is wow, it was, it's it was very recently. Yeah, 2110 01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:37,680 Speaker 1: my guy, my guy, my guy. Matt Maddie. I yes, yes, yeah, 2111 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,120 Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl. Yeah, all right. 2112 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're gonna get into 2113 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,839 Speaker 2: All Star Week in Major League Baseball or MLB Insider 2114 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, Well, join us. This is Fox Sports Sunday. 2115 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Harvin Husky Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the 2116 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 2: tire rac dot Com studios. It is All Star Game 2117 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,920 Speaker 2: week in Major League Baseball, and no one will break 2118 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,000 Speaker 2: it down like this man. 2119 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: He's the best of the best. 2120 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 2: We claim among his many many titles Fox Sports Radio, 2121 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 2: MLB Insider, the Great John Paul Morosi, So JP, I 2122 01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about Skeens starting this All Star Game 2123 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 2: eleven starts into his major League baseball career. 2124 01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,840 Speaker 3: And I'm going to go back to nineteen seventy six. 2125 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,080 Speaker 2: I was eighteen years old, was here, I graduated at 2126 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,200 Speaker 2: high school in the talk of baseball. Was a rookie 2127 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 2: with the Detroit Tigers named Mark the Bird Fedric So 2128 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 2: I had to. 2129 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 1: Look it up to make sure I was right, and 2130 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:34,599 Speaker 1: I was right. 2131 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 2: After two very brief relief appearances, they put him in 2132 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:42,720 Speaker 2: the rotation and he started exactly eleven games and was 2133 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 2: named the starting pitcher for the American League All Star Team, 2134 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 2: the exact same eleven starts of Paul Skeins that had. 2135 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 3: But here's the difference. So Skeen's is six and zero, 2136 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,639 Speaker 3: zero complete games. The Bird he was nine and two 2137 01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 3: with ten complete games, ten in his first eleven starts. 2138 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 2: Of course, he also completed thirty one of his first 2139 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,240 Speaker 2: forty starts and then had armed problems and that was 2140 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:07,679 Speaker 2: the end of Marked the Bird Fedrich. 2141 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 3: But I know what you talk about, like. 2142 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 2: We've never seen anything like this before, and the fact 2143 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 2: is we have is just that it happened so long ago. 2144 01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,760 Speaker 2: Most people don't remember. I know you do because you're 2145 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 2: a Michigan native, a Tigers fan. You know about Mark 2146 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 2: the Bird Fedrich. But I just wanted to put it 2147 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,800 Speaker 2: out there that people say, well, you've never seen this. 2148 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 2: Eleven starts the news major League grist starting an All 2149 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 2: Star game actually did happen. 2150 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,719 Speaker 1: His name was Mark the bird Fedrich back in nineteen 2151 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 1: seventy six. 2152 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 6: Well that's a great point, Steve and VJ. Good afternoon 2153 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 6: as well. It is interesting when you think about the 2154 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,880 Speaker 6: history of the game that was almost fifty years ago. 2155 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,680 Speaker 6: And you're right what I would say too, as we 2156 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 6: discussed Fidrich's career, how it unfolded, the number of complete games. Now, 2157 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,200 Speaker 6: he wasn't throwing nearly as hard as schemes does, which 2158 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 6: I think is part of it. And again the overall 2159 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:04,080 Speaker 6: conversation about health. There's no question that the demands of 2160 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 6: the day. And think about this, some of the Tigers' 2161 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 6: decisions back then were getting made based on can we 2162 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,160 Speaker 6: shorten up the bird's rest so that way he pitches 2163 01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 6: at home as often as possibly could drive the gate 2164 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 6: and get bigger and bigger attendance, greater television ratings. They 2165 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 6: were lining them up to see there was that famous 2166 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 6: gaming pitched against the Yankees on Monday Night Baseball and 2167 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,720 Speaker 6: ABC which the ratings so that were through the roof, 2168 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 6: so that there are a lot of commercial reasons why 2169 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 6: Fidrich's schedule was set the way it was, and it 2170 01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,640 Speaker 6: was certainly not to optimize his health. It was to 2171 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 6: optimize the revenues of the industry, the Tigers, the networks, 2172 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:53,000 Speaker 6: et cetera. But where schemes gets interesting is exactly the 2173 01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,600 Speaker 6: contrast that you're making. Fidrich didn't throw as hard, but 2174 01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,679 Speaker 6: was pitching more often, and he broke down Schemes throws 2175 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,759 Speaker 6: a lot harder. They're being more careful with his innings, 2176 01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 6: as we saw with the no hitter, And now the 2177 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 6: question is will this work? The answer I have is 2178 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,839 Speaker 6: I have no idea, because no one does if we acknowledge. 2179 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 6: If you look at the thirty baseball teams and you 2180 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,439 Speaker 6: were to ask, hey, what team probably spends the most 2181 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 6: money on having the smartest front office possible, with the 2182 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,040 Speaker 6: wisest research and development, all the state of the art 2183 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,120 Speaker 6: ability to analyze pitch your health, You'd probably say the 2184 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,679 Speaker 6: Los Angeles Dodgers. Well, that team right now has about 2185 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 6: as much pitching on the injured list in terms of 2186 01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:43,479 Speaker 6: dollars spent and the amount of money they're spending on 2187 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 6: pitchers who are not pitching right now. It is a 2188 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,720 Speaker 6: staggering sum of money. And the conclusion to draw from 2189 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,439 Speaker 6: that is not that the Dodgers are clueless when it 2190 01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 6: comes to keeping pitchers healthy. It's that we are all 2191 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 6: varying degrees of clueless. We're just hoping that we land 2192 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,120 Speaker 6: on the right solution. Because, in no way, shape or form, 2193 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,400 Speaker 6: was anybody saying, well, by the All Star break glass 2194 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,640 Speaker 6: now and Yamamoto and Bobby Miller, by the way, is 2195 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 6: going to be in the minor leagues, and Beeler is 2196 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,000 Speaker 6: going to be struggling on the injured list, and Kershaw 2197 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 6: wouldn't have pitched the game for the Dodgers yet, and 2198 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,639 Speaker 6: that you've got guys like Cole Reagan's and Seth Lugo 2199 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,800 Speaker 6: in the All Star Game and show to Imanaga in 2200 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 6: the All Star Game. So we're all trying to figure 2201 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,600 Speaker 6: this out. And anybody that calls up the show or 2202 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 6: any show in the country, it says, hey, I've got 2203 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 6: to figure it out how to keep everybody healthy. I 2204 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 6: have a great deal of issues with that statement. 2205 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,600 Speaker 1: John porm Rosey VJ. Brend A Husky here, great to 2206 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 1: be talking some good old baseball with you, my man, 2207 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: and just really quick. On the Dodgers, I say all 2208 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:48,960 Speaker 1: the time in over the last three or four weeks 2209 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,760 Speaker 1: they make they're spending way too much money to have 2210 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,439 Speaker 1: the fifth best record in the majors right now, and 2211 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,960 Speaker 1: they don't even look like the best team in the NL. 2212 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,280 Speaker 1: I want to spin to the All Star Game coming 2213 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,679 Speaker 1: up though, thirty seven new player and my part Martin 2214 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,160 Speaker 1: and I talk on the show all the time about 2215 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 1: the rule changes and speeding the game up, and I 2216 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 1: loved it. I balked at it before, but once I 2217 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 1: started to watch, I said, you know what a two 2218 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: and a half hours, two hours and twenty five minutes. Hey, 2219 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking about. I like this, But 2220 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: the All Star Games sell us on why this could 2221 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 1: be a good thing currently or moving forward with so 2222 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,240 Speaker 1: many new players, with the casual you talk about schemes. 2223 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 1: I need him against I needed him to start because 2224 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 1: I need him against Judge right in the first inning. 2225 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 1: Give me the best guys that you're telling me is 2226 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,360 Speaker 1: the best this year against the best guys at least 2227 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,640 Speaker 1: for the first two or three innings. But with the 2228 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven new guys currently moving forwards. This is a 2229 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,000 Speaker 1: good thing. Doesn't matter is going to stay the same? 2230 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 1: Where do you kind of fall on this one? John? 2231 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,479 Speaker 6: I love it. I actually think VJ. The game is 2232 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 6: in a really good spot. 2233 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 1: I really do. 2234 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,400 Speaker 6: And yes, as I mentioned a moment ago, injuries and 2235 01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,960 Speaker 6: picture health, they're a topic now and they have been 2236 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,559 Speaker 6: for years. But I think in terms of the product 2237 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 6: that we see at the ballpark, I know, I'm really 2238 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 6: fortunate in my job. I get a chance to see 2239 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 6: games all around the country on a weekly basis and 2240 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,639 Speaker 6: to experience different fan bases. And I've got to say, 2241 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 6: the number of really good baseball games and we've been 2242 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,320 Speaker 6: broadcasting this season on MLB Network, I think it's the 2243 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 6: best group of games we've ever had, and it's because 2244 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,439 Speaker 6: the games have pace and athleticism to them. We're seeing 2245 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,920 Speaker 6: new stars emerging. Gunner Henderson what a star, and I 2246 01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 6: hope that the casual baseball fan gets a chance to 2247 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,799 Speaker 6: watch Gunner play on Tuesday. Bobby Witt Junior, same story. 2248 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 6: I think that you see as well some of the 2249 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,080 Speaker 6: next generation of players. I love Jaren Duran with the 2250 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,799 Speaker 6: Boston Red Sox. He's a first time All Star. Riley 2251 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,400 Speaker 6: Green first time All Star, you're gonna chesse future Hall 2252 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 6: of famers like Savado. Perez is still in the game 2253 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 6: even as an ascended young catcher, and Atley Rutchman is 2254 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 6: now stepping to the forefront. And one of my favorite 2255 01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,719 Speaker 6: players in the game, Stephen Kwan batting three point fifty. 2256 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 6: He just does work. He is our modern version. He's 2257 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,160 Speaker 6: at least having the same philosophy as the great Tony 2258 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 6: gwyn He's the modern day heir to what Tony Gwinn 2259 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,560 Speaker 6: was able to do. I'm not say he's gonna have 2260 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,160 Speaker 6: the same career as Gwinn, but it's that same philosophy. 2261 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 6: When you get a chance to watch what he's doing, 2262 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 6: it is a sight to behold. So I think we 2263 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 6: are blessed right now with a tremendous amount of young 2264 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,120 Speaker 6: talent in the game. Yes, a lot of it's on 2265 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,639 Speaker 6: the mound, but I just think this generation of position players, 2266 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 6: who by the way, have been taught dj to be 2267 01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,280 Speaker 6: more athletic because it's a more athletic game. Now, there's 2268 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,719 Speaker 6: less standing around, there's more base running. All these elements 2269 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,120 Speaker 6: I think have put players like Steven Kwan more into 2270 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 6: the conversation of being people that we really get to 2271 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 6: enjoy watching work on their craft. 2272 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 2: All Right, I want you on the record as we 2273 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 2: get into the All Star break, tell us right now, JP, 2274 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,320 Speaker 2: which team has been the biggest surprise in a positive 2275 01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:00,879 Speaker 2: sense for you and the biggest surprise in a negative 2276 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,360 Speaker 2: sense for you going into the All Star break. 2277 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 6: Well, it's steeling a little bit like twenty fourteen and 2278 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,040 Speaker 6: twenty fifteen all over again because the Kansas City Royals 2279 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 6: have put themselves right back into the playoff conversation. I 2280 01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,200 Speaker 6: know they've been a little bit slow entering the break, 2281 01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 6: but with this young talent. I mentioned Bobbywood, Junior, Cole Reagan, 2282 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,519 Speaker 6: Seth Lugo. They made a trade over the weekend for 2283 01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 6: Hunter Harvey of the Washington Nationals. They're a really good team. 2284 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,400 Speaker 6: They're much better than I thought they were going to be. 2285 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,240 Speaker 6: I actually think the Boston Red Sox are better than 2286 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 6: I expected. Again, I mentioned the first time All Star 2287 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 6: Jaren Duran Saydan Rafaela to remember that name. He's now 2288 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,840 Speaker 6: playing a lot of shortstop for them, really athletic player. 2289 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,880 Speaker 6: So I think those are the teams that stand out 2290 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 6: to me as being the biggest surprise in the positive way. 2291 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,519 Speaker 6: On the negative direction, I gotta say I did not 2292 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 6: expect the Chicago Cubs to be the last in the 2293 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,800 Speaker 6: National League Central right now, nor did I expect the 2294 01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 6: Toronto Blue Jays to be last in the American League East. 2295 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,719 Speaker 6: And I actually thought up to Detroit Tigers. They've played 2296 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,120 Speaker 6: a little bit better entering the break, but they're better 2297 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,920 Speaker 6: than the fourth place team, and that, to me, has 2298 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 6: been one team that I've been a little bit frustrated 2299 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 6: with during the course of this season. So that's my 2300 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,920 Speaker 6: perspectives right now in terms of teams that are up 2301 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,120 Speaker 6: teams that are down. I think where I land on 2302 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 6: and Stephen vj is we're gonna have a very interesting 2303 01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,479 Speaker 6: trade deadline with a lot of movement all over the place. 2304 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,120 Speaker 6: So I can't wait to see what happens. On the 2305 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:25,320 Speaker 6: evening of July the. 2306 01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,920 Speaker 1: Thirtieth, Speaking of those Tigers, just tied it up three 2307 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,000 Speaker 1: to three in the bottom of the ninth runners on 2308 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 1: first and a second against us against those Dodgers, right 2309 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 1: against those Dodgers, against those going on. I don't a baby, 2310 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. We bring you on and magic happens, 2311 01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me, you know what out 2312 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 1: there in detail. I'm out here in La La Land. 2313 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,560 Speaker 1: Man a team I want to throw out there that 2314 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 1: I really really liked. But I'm kind of getting little 2315 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:47,880 Speaker 1: worried about the New York Yankees. 2316 01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 3: And that's because and they just threw the ball away 2317 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 3: game over, Tigers win. 2318 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:52,479 Speaker 4: It is. 2319 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:57,559 Speaker 3: Bottom of the night, Betty Ramirez, what. 2320 01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:58,280 Speaker 1: Are you doing? 2321 01:44:58,439 --> 01:44:58,639 Speaker 4: Man? 2322 01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 1: As Mario Weis said, is per feed too long? Detroit 2323 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,200 Speaker 1: guys are clapping behind the glass. That was the worst ever. Yeah, 2324 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:07,479 Speaker 1: a punting situation. 2325 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,560 Speaker 3: Runners up first and second, but right back to the 2326 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 3: pitcher Ramiras throws throws it aways. Basically they're trying to 2327 01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,000 Speaker 3: get the runner third base run scores. Tigers win, a 2328 01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:17,760 Speaker 3: walk up again. 2329 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the luck. You're breaking it if you're 2330 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 1: in our studio right now. Just two split glasses. We 2331 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 1: got Monti, who was a Dodger fan on the left, 2332 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,000 Speaker 1: shaking her head, and we got two Detroit guys in here. 2333 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 1: High five. 2334 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,080 Speaker 3: By the way, that's that's a one in five road 2335 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:31,040 Speaker 3: trip for the Dodgers. 2336 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they're spinning out of control with all these 2337 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: boys acting like he's looking at his phone, he's all 2338 01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,559 Speaker 1: with just he's at this but really really quick last 2339 01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,680 Speaker 1: one from me, John Paul. The Yankees, you know, they 2340 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,160 Speaker 1: got the bats and and uh, the pitching just seems 2341 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,160 Speaker 1: to be falling apart right now. You mentioned Gunderson with 2342 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,680 Speaker 1: the Orioles. I love the kid, but there's only one 2343 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,720 Speaker 1: game separating them. Whoever wins this division. You got that 2344 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 1: team going at least to the Alcus to get to 2345 01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,479 Speaker 1: the World Series. Are the Yankees fu gayzy? Are they? 2346 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,280 Speaker 1: Are they falling apart? With the get to stay back together? 2347 01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 6: You know, the Yankees have some work to do VJ. 2348 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,160 Speaker 6: They have got to make some moves. I don't like 2349 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,599 Speaker 6: their lineup depth right now. I don't like their bullpen 2350 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 6: depth leading up to Clay Holmes. I think he's had 2351 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,920 Speaker 6: to pitch a ton in the first half. Their rotation 2352 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,920 Speaker 6: has let me down a little bit. I am not 2353 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:22,040 Speaker 6: sold on them yet as being a postseason juggernaut, because 2354 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,719 Speaker 6: here's the issue. When you're facing a team with Judge 2355 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 6: and Soto, you might say, and it's hard to pitch 2356 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,080 Speaker 6: around both of them, but you might basically say, Okay, 2357 01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 6: we're gonna pick one and just say, Okay, Soto's not 2358 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,720 Speaker 6: gonna beat us tonight, We're just gonna anytime he's up, 2359 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 6: We're gonna walk them. We're gonna not get him inting 2360 01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,640 Speaker 6: to hit. And maybe we feel like we can we 2361 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 6: can attack Judge here and then maybe vice versa. But 2362 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:49,120 Speaker 6: after the two of them, once they're done batting, who 2363 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 6: are you afraid of? The in the second half of 2364 01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 6: the Yankee lineup? And I think that's where it's I 2365 01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,880 Speaker 6: look at the Baltimore lineup one through nine as being 2366 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 6: a tougher out right now, and I would even say 2367 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 6: that a team like Cleveland has got the better one 2368 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 6: through nine right now, and the New York Yankees do, 2369 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 6: so I am not at all sold on them. I 2370 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 6: think if they run up against a team like Seattle, 2371 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,080 Speaker 6: they're flawed offensively. The Mariners are, at least for now 2372 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,080 Speaker 6: until they make some upgrades, but their fishing is really good. 2373 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,120 Speaker 6: And I just think that when you start facing the 2374 01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,920 Speaker 6: best of the best on the mound in October and 2375 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,360 Speaker 6: you have a game plan where basically, at three o'clock 2376 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,920 Speaker 6: you're saying, listen, our season's on the line. We are 2377 01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,640 Speaker 6: not going to let ninety nine beat us. He's not 2378 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,479 Speaker 6: going to see a strike and SODA's gonna have to 2379 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 6: do it tonight. Whatever it might be you need more 2380 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 6: than two players two players in your line up to 2381 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,679 Speaker 6: do that. So I'm I am concerned about the Yankees 2382 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,479 Speaker 6: as a playoff team. I think as much as we 2383 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,479 Speaker 6: talk about how many great teams or how the big 2384 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 6: market teams have spent a ton of money, they're not better. 2385 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 6: They are objectively in this moment, not a better postseason 2386 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,760 Speaker 6: team than the Cleveland Guardians now in the National League. 2387 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 6: I will say this, the Phillies are better right now 2388 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,240 Speaker 6: than everybody else in the ENDLT just better. And I've 2389 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 6: had a chance to watch them a bunch of this season. 2390 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,760 Speaker 6: What a delightful team to watch it. I think we're 2391 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 6: gonna hear a lot from the Philadelphia Phillies in the 2392 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,000 Speaker 6: month of October. 2393 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,960 Speaker 2: Well, the Dodgers completed a one to five road trip 2394 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,679 Speaker 2: to go into the break, so that is not voting 2395 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,360 Speaker 2: well for the Dodgers, who have blested their entire starting 2396 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,600 Speaker 2: rotation and back to back ninth inning losses to the 2397 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:21,639 Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers. 2398 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,879 Speaker 1: Here I am like a Dodger guy, and I'm surrounded 2399 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,759 Speaker 1: by Tiger fans who would have thought JP. 2400 01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,960 Speaker 2: Enjoy your All Star week. Will definitely get your update 2401 01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,160 Speaker 2: next week. Thanks for joining us as always. 2402 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:33,200 Speaker 6: You got it all the best. 2403 01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:34,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Rod bless you all. 2404 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 2: Star games, John Palmerrosi our Fox Sports Radio MLB Inside, 2405 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,519 Speaker 2: Let's find out what is trending right now. 2406 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,559 Speaker 1: And Monci is in a state of shock as I am. 2407 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,320 Speaker 3: As the Dodgers did it again, leading going into the 2408 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:51,320 Speaker 3: bottom of the ninth inning and literally this this time 2409 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 3: throwing the game away. 2410 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2411 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,760 Speaker 8: Actually I did not see this live because I was 2412 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,639 Speaker 8: watching England tie the game against Spain in the twenty 2413 01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,639 Speaker 8: twenty four Euro Final. It happened at the exact same time, 2414 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,760 Speaker 8: so bo is like texting and delling at me on 2415 01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 8: the other side. I'm watching soccer. Then I turned it 2416 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,120 Speaker 8: on and I saw the bad throw. I saw it 2417 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,200 Speaker 8: all happen, but I didn't see it. 2418 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:11,439 Speaker 5: Lut. 2419 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,439 Speaker 2: And that was a bad throw is like saying the 2420 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,919 Speaker 2: Titanic swung a leak. I mean that thing was closer 2421 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,640 Speaker 2: to the dugout than it was. 2422 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,120 Speaker 1: The third band mate. Why make that throw though? Why? 2423 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 7: It was a desperation move. 2424 01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,560 Speaker 8: He wasn't expecting the ball to come to him and 2425 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,600 Speaker 8: made a desperation throw, you know what I mean? Like 2426 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,320 Speaker 8: I think that it caught him off guard, not that 2427 01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,759 Speaker 8: I'm saying, it's okay, but your a professional goal. 2428 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,680 Speaker 1: Closer to the work on that in spring training. No, 2429 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,280 Speaker 1: they work on that in spring train. 2430 01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 7: You would stop it, you would think. 2431 01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2432 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,479 Speaker 8: So for the second straight day, the Tigers walk it 2433 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,839 Speaker 8: off against the Dodgers. 2434 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 7: I don't like saying that four to three was the 2435 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 7: final score. 2436 01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,679 Speaker 8: The Marlins topped the Reds three to the Red Sox 2437 01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,600 Speaker 8: edge the Royals five to four. The Rays blanked the 2438 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,240 Speaker 8: Guardians to zero. The Orioles came back to beat the 2439 01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,439 Speaker 8: Yankee six. I have Baltimore heads into the All Star 2440 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 8: Break in first place in the Al East. And then 2441 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,680 Speaker 8: the A's, guys, the a let me just play a 2442 01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,519 Speaker 8: little bit. I just want We're gonna start with this one. 2443 01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 1: This is A's. 2444 01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:11,160 Speaker 7: This is the A's today. 2445 01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 1: What too, bitch, high fly ball, deep brighton center. It's 2446 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,280 Speaker 1: a three homer day for Lawrence Butler. 2447 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 7: Three homer day. 2448 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 1: Fought the law and the low one. Love that right, Okay? 2449 01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:28,799 Speaker 3: Then also A's there's gilof he swings and he slams 2450 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,560 Speaker 3: one a deep left center field on its way and 2451 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 3: it is a grand slam. 2452 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,280 Speaker 8: You want to know why he sounds so sad because 2453 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,160 Speaker 8: he's bored because the A's crushed the Phillies eighteen to three. 2454 01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,679 Speaker 1: We were talking about the Phillies on the runaway at home. 2455 01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,840 Speaker 8: LuSE to the A's eighteen to three, and then with 2456 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 8: and he hits a grand slam. 2457 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, can we wrap this up? 2458 01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,720 Speaker 1: That's like what he's thinking, all Star breaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2459 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,639 Speaker 1: let's get all Star breaks eighteen to three. 2460 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,439 Speaker 8: The Rockies are currently beating the Mets eight five, bottom 2461 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 8: of the ninth inning in York. But the Mets have 2462 01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 8: the bait the man on first and second, they are 2463 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,439 Speaker 8: down to their final out. The Pirates have extended their 2464 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,280 Speaker 8: lead over the White Sox nine to four, bottom of 2465 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 8: the eighth inning. The Birds are beating the National seven three, 2466 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,000 Speaker 8: bottom of the eighth as well. The Cubs, which you 2467 01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,080 Speaker 8: guys were just talking about with JP, are up on 2468 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 8: the Cardinals eight three. It's officially over, yes, and it 2469 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,000 Speaker 8: is visually over. The Cubs beat the Cardinals eighty three. 2470 01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 8: The Giants are slight lead over the Twins one zero 2471 01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,080 Speaker 8: top of the third inning, Mariners Angels scoreless top of 2472 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,559 Speaker 8: the third, Padres up on the Braves one zero bottom 2473 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,760 Speaker 8: of the second, Glue Jays beating the Diamondbacks one zero 2474 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,040 Speaker 8: top of the second Wnba Asia Wilson another double double, 2475 01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,719 Speaker 8: twenty eight points, fifteen rebounds. 2476 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:37,680 Speaker 7: The Aces have come back. 2477 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,720 Speaker 8: They're beating the Mystics seventy six to sixty nine, less 2478 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,519 Speaker 8: than five minutes to go in the game Alia Boston 2479 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,640 Speaker 8: for the Fever eleven points, eight rebounds. The Fever are 2480 01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,960 Speaker 8: losing to the Links thirty six to thirty four, about 2481 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 8: three minutes to go in the first half. Now, let's 2482 01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,000 Speaker 8: check in on the Euro Final happening right now on 2483 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:57,160 Speaker 8: Fox TV. The second half has been exciting. There were 2484 01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:00,320 Speaker 8: scoreless at halftimes. Spain scored in the forty seventh the 2485 01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,680 Speaker 8: minute Nico Williams, but Cole Palmer has tied the game 2486 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 8: for England in the seventhy third minute, so we are 2487 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,639 Speaker 8: tied Spain England won one after eighty minutes of play. 2488 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,800 Speaker 8: You can catch all the action on Fox and later 2489 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,479 Speaker 8: on Fox TV the Copa America Final between Colombia and 2490 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,880 Speaker 8: Arpenthina that kicks off at eight Eastern time. What else 2491 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 8: has happened today? Robert McIntyre won the Genesis Scottish Open. 2492 01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:26,120 Speaker 8: Novak Djokovic lost at Wimbledon this year for the second 2493 01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 8: straight year against Carlos Alcaraz. 2494 01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,200 Speaker 7: Carlos aukraz is. 2495 01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,519 Speaker 8: Twenty one years old, his second Grand Slam win this year, 2496 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,640 Speaker 8: the fourth of his career in the NFL. Bengals and 2497 01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:36,920 Speaker 8: Star wide receiver T Higgins, he's not going to do 2498 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,439 Speaker 8: an extension by Monday's deadline. 2499 01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,280 Speaker 7: He did sign his franchise tag. He's going to play 2500 01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:40,400 Speaker 7: on it. 2501 01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,479 Speaker 8: But the NFL Network reports that he's going to be 2502 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,800 Speaker 8: a top free agent in the twenty twenty five offseason. 2503 01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,800 Speaker 8: And sad news out of the NFL, former Ravens receiver 2504 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,040 Speaker 8: and Super Bowl champion Jacoby Jones. 2505 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,760 Speaker 7: Passed away at the age of forty. There's a lot 2506 01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 7: going on, fellas. 2507 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,800 Speaker 3: A lot going on, monsee. Thank you very much. 2508 01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,000 Speaker 2: By the way, just the follow up on this A's 2509 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,800 Speaker 2: blitzing of the Phillies eighteen to three, and I agree 2510 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 2: with the VJ. 2511 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,760 Speaker 3: You know it's empty the bullpen. 2512 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:06,679 Speaker 1: Days tide the thing for the Phillies. I get that out. 2513 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm looking at this game and I'm like, 2514 01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:13,679 Speaker 2: the A's had three players he had multi home run games. 2515 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,559 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, how often does that happen? 2516 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 7: Eight homer's total in the game. 2517 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,320 Speaker 2: Home runs in this game Brown had two home runs, 2518 01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 2: Rooker had two home runs, and as you said, Butler 2519 01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,360 Speaker 2: had three home runs. That doesn't happen very often where 2520 01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,400 Speaker 2: a team has three players have multi home run games 2521 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:30,639 Speaker 2: in the same game. 2522 01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,080 Speaker 1: All Star break man, go ahead and get go ahead 2523 01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 1: and throw those fun Call up those farm league guys 2524 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,599 Speaker 1: two nights ago. Throw them out there, Let them get 2525 01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,040 Speaker 1: their debuts, let them throw some let them throw some 2526 01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,799 Speaker 1: pitches of some major league bats and get rocked around 2527 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,760 Speaker 1: the Philly, the Phillies. The Phillies are still fine on this. 2528 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,200 Speaker 1: On this EuroCup game. As you're talking, as I'm watching here, 2529 01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 1: Nico Williams, I talk a lot about Leminya Molo, which 2530 01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,280 Speaker 1: is their sixteen year old actually turned seventeen yesterday, seventeen 2531 01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,280 Speaker 1: year old youngest to score goal and EuroCup ever. But 2532 01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:02,080 Speaker 1: this Nico Williams kids peers from and then got citizenship 2533 01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,760 Speaker 1: and a spanyad this Spain and Chris and I were 2534 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 1: talking in o A. They you know, euro Cup did, 2535 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,960 Speaker 1: won World Cup, then won EuroCup again, and then they 2536 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,160 Speaker 1: kind of dried it off. But you talk about a 2537 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 1: team a country to look out for moving forward. There, 2538 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,479 Speaker 1: Spanya is right back. I'm sorry, your mom, is. 2539 01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:18,920 Speaker 4: Going for. 2540 01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,519 Speaker 3: Can you give me an update, yar VJ. 2541 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,479 Speaker 2: Since I know zero and have zero interest in this 2542 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:30,320 Speaker 2: game they call football everywhere but here. Sure, When is 2543 01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:32,800 Speaker 2: the United States going to be relevant in terms of 2544 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,160 Speaker 2: international competition? 2545 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't say the word never. I was 2546 01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,400 Speaker 1: about to say, I don't. I don't think never, because 2547 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that we're using the correct resources that 2548 01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:42,839 Speaker 1: we have, like we're America. 2549 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, I've been I've been 2550 01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:46,360 Speaker 3: hearing this tune for fifty years. 2551 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2552 01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:50,760 Speaker 2: I was in the North American Soccer League and playing 2553 01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:52,880 Speaker 2: with the Cosmos and the biggest star. 2554 01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:53,280 Speaker 3: In the world. 2555 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,200 Speaker 1: And everyone was exciting time every time. 2556 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we and even then they were selling 2557 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,800 Speaker 3: us that finally, finally soccer has arrived in. 2558 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 1: The I mean, I remember Freddio, your perpetual idol. I 2559 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,800 Speaker 1: lived in DC where Freddie Due was playing with the 2560 01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,000 Speaker 1: United We would go to r f K ten dollars 2561 01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 1: tickets on a Friday night. Man, you catch the train 2562 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 1: and go to the game and then go club. Interviews 2563 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,760 Speaker 1: Land and Donovan over the years about the future look 2564 01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,280 Speaker 1: and I like Landing a lot. 2565 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,040 Speaker 3: I many times in studio trying to sell me that 2566 01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:21,840 Speaker 3: this is the year. 2567 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,320 Speaker 1: And I remember what Lexai Allallis was the you know 2568 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,680 Speaker 1: this big and Lexi Allis is going to be I 2569 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,280 Speaker 1: just don't I just don't think. 2570 01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,280 Speaker 3: That we're hosting the next World. 2571 01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 1: Or co host. Here is here in North in Canada, Yeah, Canada, 2572 01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,280 Speaker 1: Mexico place in Mexico as well. Yeah, already gonna play 2573 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:38,680 Speaker 1: some of the Mexican Mexico. 2574 01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,200 Speaker 3: It's a co host with Canada, United States and Mexican. 2575 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that'll be dope. I can't wait. We get the Olympics. 2576 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:46,160 Speaker 1: That's that's how the. 2577 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,080 Speaker 3: United States at least gets into the World Cup. 2578 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,720 Speaker 1: You got a host. They always the host cut gets in, 2579 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,880 Speaker 1: all right, that's sort of the automatic. All right. They'll 2580 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,960 Speaker 1: put us in a pool with with with Italy and Serbia. 2581 01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,840 Speaker 2: Alright on the other side, we're kind of weak, are 2582 01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:01,720 Speaker 2: we looking forward to? We're gonna break it down. This 2583 01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:06,080 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. Harvin and Huske Here Fox Sports 2584 01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,160 Speaker 2: Sunday Live from the tiraq dot Com studios. Want to 2585 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,160 Speaker 2: thank the best supporting crew in the history of this medium, 2586 01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:17,600 Speaker 2: the legend herself, Monsey Belangas providing all the updates. 2587 01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 7: And yes, mine's kicking me out, so I gotta go. 2588 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,520 Speaker 1: All right, Martin's kicking it out. 2589 01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:22,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's yelling at me, so I gotta go. 2590 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,320 Speaker 1: That's okay. We can make a orterly exchange there. 2591 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,720 Speaker 7: No, I'm gonna punch him on the way. 2592 01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 2593 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,240 Speaker 3: You have my blessings pushing all the buttons. 2594 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 1: He can barely contain himself. In a second. There's like 2595 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: three minutes. We just watched the most insane sequence. 2596 01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I want to get to this boa of course, 2597 01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:45,120 Speaker 3: our brilliant producer and uh yeah, okay, I just said 2598 01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,400 Speaker 3: before the break, it's hard for me to get into 2599 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,920 Speaker 3: the game that we call soccer. 2600 01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 2: The rest of the world calls football. End of this 2601 01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:55,080 Speaker 2: copea American match between Spain and England. So Spain scores 2602 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:56,800 Speaker 2: in the eighty six minute to take the two to 2603 01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,680 Speaker 2: one lead, and so you know, celebration. We're looking at 2604 01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 2: maybe five more minutes for England. They get the corner 2605 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,280 Speaker 2: kick and it's a perfect corner kick for a header. 2606 01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:11,080 Speaker 2: Direct line goalie makes the same but on the rebound 2607 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:16,560 Speaker 2: another direct header that a header has to stop right 2608 01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,000 Speaker 2: in front of the net. The defender in the net 2609 01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,880 Speaker 2: with a header to stop it, and then a third 2610 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:27,280 Speaker 2: opportunity that goes wide of the net. Unbelievable sequence to 2611 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,760 Speaker 2: preserve so far a two one lead. We are in 2612 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,400 Speaker 2: extra time right now, final minutes going off, but it 2613 01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 2: looks like Spain's gonna win. But I'll have to admit, 2614 01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:38,880 Speaker 2: even if you're not a super fan of breaking this sport, 2615 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:40,160 Speaker 2: that was amazing. 2616 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:43,920 Speaker 1: This could be heartbreak again for England. They made the final. 2617 01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. They're in a final, in the last little cup. 2618 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 1: That's why I tell people all that people don't care. 2619 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,520 Speaker 1: Listen that goes by me. I don't care. If you're 2620 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 1: a sport fan and you just want to watch good competition, 2621 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm just put it on this like playoff hockey. I 2622 01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,200 Speaker 1: hear people go, I don't watch hockey. Yeah, I don't 2623 01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:00,800 Speaker 1: watch a lot of regular season. I don't watch it 2624 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,800 Speaker 1: every night, But when the playoffs start, that's when you 2625 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,320 Speaker 1: really tune into it because it's still just a great 2626 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:07,680 Speaker 1: Here's what the problem. 2627 01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,920 Speaker 2: I have to watch this match end like this on 2628 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,520 Speaker 2: that sequence and the great goal late. That's great penalty kicks. 2629 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't get it. 2630 01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm not a penalty kicks to decide an Olympic gold medal, 2631 01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,800 Speaker 3: a World Cup championship couple America. 2632 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't mind him what I would like, 2633 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:30,360 Speaker 1: and they everyone. 2634 01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,240 Speaker 3: Just sort of sits on it, basically playing out the clock, 2635 01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:36,680 Speaker 3: trying to not make the mistakes the golden goal in 2636 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,280 Speaker 3: in soccer either like full extra time, like bring back 2637 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:40,920 Speaker 3: the golden goal. 2638 01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 1: I think that's that's easy. I'm I'm with them moving 2639 01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 1: it back. I don't. I don't mind penalty kick to win, 2640 01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,320 Speaker 1: but move it. Move it back, though, I think the 2641 01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,160 Speaker 1: advantage the extra point in the NFL, move it back, 2642 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,400 Speaker 1: move it back, move it back. Why move it back. 2643 01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it should be really totally worth. 2644 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,360 Speaker 1: He was on side to on that on that game 2645 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 1: winning goals. Look at that by literally a toe bye yeah, 2646 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:05,280 Speaker 1: bye bye. 2647 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,840 Speaker 2: You guys are screaming on the what appears to be 2648 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,640 Speaker 2: the match winning goal for Spain that they were off side, 2649 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:12,760 Speaker 2: but it showed the replay and. 2650 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:13,440 Speaker 6: He was not. 2651 01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just to me, it's just exciting his competition. 2652 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,400 Speaker 1: It's world this, this is leading into the Olympics. So 2653 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,120 Speaker 1: this is getting my juices going. Look at the track 2654 01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,640 Speaker 1: team that we're sitting in, Team USA basketball, like the 2655 01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:28,880 Speaker 1: Olympics is going to be the swimming, the gymnastics. Uh uh, 2656 01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,440 Speaker 1: some old boles is back. Look at the storylines. 2657 01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 3: It to me all right, So I was going to 2658 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,280 Speaker 3: ask you, how excited are you for the upcoming games. 2659 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm super excited for it. I'm a sports saying. I'm 2660 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,480 Speaker 1: an ohigh school guy, a very old school. 2661 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I go back my first memory of watching 2662 01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:46,960 Speaker 2: the Olympics when I was ten Mexico City in nineteen Sixtyman, 2663 01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:49,480 Speaker 2: when they when the Games are here in Los Angeles 2664 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:51,800 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four is exactly the time I was 2665 01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,160 Speaker 2: working for the Raider. I was twenty six years old 2666 01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,520 Speaker 2: and the city was empty. Everybody left town. I did 2667 01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 2: not go to a single event. 2668 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I was in ninety six in Atlanta. It 2669 02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 1: was my high school graduation present from my mom and 2670 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,880 Speaker 1: my dad. So I was at the ninety six Games 2671 02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,480 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Forma did you oh? I went to Yeah, 2672 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:09,640 Speaker 1: I went to Vince. I went to the Games. I 2673 02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:13,240 Speaker 1: met Joe Frasier at a foot locker autograph sign a smith. Yeah, 2674 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,120 Speaker 1: he signed. He signed my sixty four Olympic gold medal 2675 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:20,040 Speaker 1: at the Tokyo Games, he signed my sports Illustrated that 2676 02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 1: had to swimmer us swimmer Dolan on the cover of 2677 02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Dolan on the cover of it. 2678 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I look forward to the Olympics. Sometimes I 2679 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,000 Speaker 2: say so, it's not the same. But I'm a track 2680 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:29,600 Speaker 2: and field guy. 2681 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm at that. I'm old school. I go back to 2682 02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the it's not just giving gold medals to us. Well, 2683 02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:38,560 Speaker 1: let's not wait year after year after year, VJ for 2684 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:40,160 Speaker 1: you to come back. I love you, brother, I do man, 2685 02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:42,480 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We got much more. Couple of guys. 2686 02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,200 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.