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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the second episode of The

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Speaker 1: Phillies Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior Jim Salisbury. I am

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Speaker 1: Todd's a lucky Phillies just played their first series of

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Speaker 1: the season. It did not go exactly as planned. Guys,

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Speaker 1: some angry people out there from the weekend, but they

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Speaker 1: won yesterday, so I think that kind of alleviates some

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Speaker 1: concern Let me start asking you, guys this, what kind

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Speaker 1: of jumped out to you this weekend? You know, the

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Speaker 1: first weekend of the season is always there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of overreaction, whether if it's good or bad. Right, the

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Speaker 1: Phillies had swept, it was, oh my god, they're going

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Speaker 1: to win the division. They give up twenty one runs

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Speaker 1: in the first two games, as oh my god, they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They can't come out and you know, so much for

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Speaker 1: the fast start. What kind of jumped out to you, guys,

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Speaker 2: Well, what jumped out to me is Atlantic can still rake.

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Speaker 2: I mean those guys can hit, man. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a really really good offense. Some team. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a well put together team. I have some concerns if

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Speaker 2: you're an Atlanta fan about their bullpen that might be

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Speaker 2: a little short. I do see what Alexanthopolis tried to

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Speaker 2: do and adding a bunch of left handers in that

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Speaker 2: bullpen to sort of combat the phillies. I think that

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Speaker 2: was directly related to combating the phillies. But as far

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Speaker 2: as the phillies are concerned, yeah, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: surprised that Zach wilyppics well. I was surprised that that

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Speaker 2: Aaron Nole' struggled because he was throwing the ball quite

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Speaker 2: well in spring training.

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Speaker 3: I like the way he was utilizing both sides of

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Speaker 2: He just everything was sort of in the middle of

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Speaker 2: sharpness on his stuff overall.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think the bullpen, and I think I.

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Speaker 2: May have said this a couple of times publicly, but

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that the bullpen and had enough

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Speaker 2: they have, and they don't get a ton of reps

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of their their strengths.

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Speaker 2: Is their ability to you know, is their ability to

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Speaker 2: create velocity. And if you don't have your power and

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Speaker 2: your sharpness in the early part of the season, you're

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Speaker 2: and you're not able to command your pitches, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: struggle some. But they did bounce back in the last game.

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Speaker 2: And Thompson did a nice job of of sort of

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Speaker 2: three of that series, and Ranger Schwaz did a nice

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Speaker 2: panic for me. But but two things to take away.

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Speaker 2: Each team's got warts. Each one of these best better

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Speaker 2: teams in the National League East have have some wartz.

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Speaker 2: But Atlanta is a really, really good team and they

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Speaker 2: and a Phillies are gonna have to play clean baseball

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Speaker 2: to to win the division and to keep up with them.

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Speaker 1: Jim, I want to ask you a question over under

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Speaker 1: I looked this up this morning because Zach got pulled

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Speaker 1: after eighty nine pitches, which didn't really surprise me. I

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Speaker 1: know it upset a lot of people over under number

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Speaker 1: of pitchers through this first weekend's games, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twelve pitchers. How many threw one hundred or more pitches

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Speaker 4: Under zero two two.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Stroman and Hunter Green are the only two pitchers

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Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised that if you watched that game,

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Speaker 4: you almost had to get him out at eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler, I thought he did his job, to use

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Speaker 4: Charlie Manuel's all saying. I thought he took him to

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Speaker 4: a good place in the game. You know, it is

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Speaker 4: a team. You have, you know, twenty five other guys

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Speaker 4: that need to do their job, and on that given day,

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Speaker 4: he handed off to the bullpen and they struggled. But

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Speaker 4: you know, early in the season it's chilly, eighty nine

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Speaker 4: things start spiraling. You know, it's it's a long season.

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Speaker 4: You got to watch him early. They've done a really

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Speaker 4: I think that actually shows a little bit. In October,

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Speaker 4: Nola and Wheeler have been healthy in October and pitched

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to watch Sex Wheeler, Aaron Nola. They're

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Speaker 4: they're north of thirty uh and in October is where

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Speaker 4: it's at for this team, and both now are on

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Speaker 4: long term. You want to get some you want to

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Speaker 4: get production out of them long term. But you know,

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Speaker 4: my big takeaway on the weekend was, you know, little

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Speaker 4: things still matter in the game. That was a big

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Speaker 4: win yesterday because everybody's up in arms if they're own

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Speaker 4: three and little things. I mean, Johann Rojas hasn't hit,

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Speaker 4: but contributed with his base running. That was a very

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Speaker 4: big play, beating that ground ball out, putting his nose

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Speaker 4: just feels different when you know you're one and two

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Speaker 4: and oh and three. But I agree with your opening statement.

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Speaker 4: I think we there's so much focus on opening day

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Speaker 4: and opening weekend, you know, almost an inordinate amount of focus.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like the winter meetings, Like there's so much

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Speaker 4: attention on the winter meetings about deals and whatnot, and

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Speaker 4: if you don't make a deal, everybody goes nuts. You

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Speaker 4: don't play well on opening day and opening weekend, you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody goes nuts. I remember years ago the Red Sox

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Speaker 4: lost the game on opening Day. They lost the opener,

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Speaker 4: and the Boston Herald the next day in the Boston Herald,

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Speaker 4: their back page was wait till next year. They lost

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Speaker 4: the first game. So, you know, the the old cliche

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Speaker 4: which I think we both detest about you can't get

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Speaker 4: opening weekend. So nothing really alarmed me, even though they

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Speaker 4: They're gonna You're gonna have those games all year long.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna frustrate you. The important thing is that they

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Speaker 4: you know, when they're on it, they put up some

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Speaker 3: So what was your take on this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well that's just kind of the general

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Speaker 1: You know, I get wit Mayfield has to play, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob said it before the game on opening Day. He's like,

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Speaker 1: wit is probably going to start the next two games

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Speaker 1: with the two lefties on the mound. And so sure enough,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Marsh hits that home run.

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Speaker 3: In Game one.

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Speaker 1: I go, oh my gosh, just wait till he's not

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Speaker 3: People are gonna lose their minds.

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Speaker 1: And people did lose their minds, but it was Maryfield's.

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Speaker 4: Going to make things really interesting because he's a veteran

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Speaker 4: and you know, I think he's gonna produce and he's

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Speaker 4: gonna put heat on people. He's gonna put heat on

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Speaker 4: the decision makers to put him on that lineup guard

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Speaker 4: because it's all about winning games and if you're if

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Speaker 4: you're productive, you got to be in there.

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Speaker 1: And he said that when he talked with Rob before

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Speaker 1: he signed, He's like, or right after he signed, he said,

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Speaker 1: I know your your what your plan is for me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to force your hand and try to

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Speaker 1: get in this lineup a little more. And I think

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Speaker 1: Rob loved that response. You know you want him. You

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Speaker 1: want a guy that's not gonna just go all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll get my two start a week and and uh

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's the The Marsh thing is interesting to me because

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Speaker 1: they have said for a couple of years now that

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Speaker 1: they see him as an everyday player, but so far

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Speaker 1: they have really protected him against gets left handed left

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Speaker 2: So it's a really it's it's a super delicate it's

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Speaker 2: maneuvered in a way for the manager. You know, how

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Speaker 2: do you continue to develop two young left handed hitters

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Speaker 2: and Stot and Marsh and still giving up at bats

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Speaker 2: to wit meryfield to you know, I mean, you got

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Speaker 2: to really work it in.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's.

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Speaker 2: A tough thing to do and keep the guy sharp

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Speaker 2: and to keep everybody sharp, not just keep him happy,

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a nice little uh putt to make when

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Speaker 2: it's a winding to make, uh for Rob Thompson and uh.

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Speaker 2: And that's why it gets paid to be a major

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Speaker 4: To me, Stott has you know, he's an everyday guy.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with that, and Rob is.

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Speaker 4: Left right he plays. I mean, I understand getting him

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Speaker 4: arrest I also understand getting guys a little rest that

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Speaker 4: of it in that first week. Understand that. But to me,

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Speaker 4: Stott is, uh, you know one you know and Rob.

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Speaker 1: Rob kind of said that the other day. He said

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Speaker 1: I think they look at the Stot that way. So

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Speaker 1: for sure, you now like, how do you balance Brandon

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Speaker 1: marsh who wants to play every day develop them? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting to see kind of

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to me was, again super small sample size,

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Speaker 1: what did you guys make of Kyle Schwarber's at bats?

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Speaker 1: He's he made a point going into the season two

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Speaker 1: hit the ball the opposite way more. He pulled the

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Speaker 1: ball like more than fifty percent of the time last year.

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Speaker 1: He's a little bit healthier. He seems to be moving

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. Had a hit the straightaway center,

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Speaker 1: encouraging to you, guys?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'd like to comment on that one

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Speaker 5: because I that's what I saw, and it was really encouraging.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, I know, he hit the home run.

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Speaker 2: Bullet to right, but that was just you know, typical

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Speaker 2: Kyle's bat speed. But but I think the other bats

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Speaker 3: I think one or two of those in that series.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that I think that these seems a

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that Kyle's moving around better. Stole

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Speaker 3: Because it's going to open up a whole new world.

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Speaker 4: No question, if he Hits two thirty five. Getting back

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Speaker 1: So that little difference. You know, he gets the third

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Speaker 7: Infect And the fact that he's in the fact that

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Speaker 3: I think that's also a huge benefit to him. To listen,

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no secret about it. He doesn't move

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Speaker 4: Hey, Ruben, do you remember the first guy to wear

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Speaker 3: Yeah, George Hendrick.

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Speaker 2: Man. I loved it because he had the longest legs

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Speaker 4: Somebody wants to wear old school stirrups. They'll be back someday.

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Speaker 4: You watch every What's old will be new again. As

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Speaker 1: Yes, would you guys think of that highly offensive slide

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Speaker 4: Google Google google Hal McCrae, Willie.

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Speaker 3: Randolph if you want to, that's correct. Did cross body

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Speaker 3: Thing that I had when Chase Suttley did it to

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Speaker 2: So Ruben Tahada when he took that throw, he spun

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Speaker 2: And they didn't even have that rule back there. But

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Speaker 3: On the bag. I mean, get off the bag. It's

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Speaker 4: You coached him, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's.

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Speaker 2: A good hitter. So the very first time he hit

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Speaker 2: I'm playing, I'm the first base coach, and he hit

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Speaker 3: We were down like a run or something like that.

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Speaker 3: It out base hit not base hit. But he's safe, right,

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Speaker 3: I go what I said. I don't care whether they

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, this is your like third game in

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Speaker 4: And then they go after him the next day. Right,

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Speaker 3: If you want to drill him, go ahead and drill him.

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Speaker 1: Ron Darling made that point. He's like that message was

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Speaker 3: Zone when they're going hot.

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Speaker 4: That was It was a very interesting weekend for New

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Speaker 4: and Sodos on base. Soto's on base every time you

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Speaker 4: highlights shows last night, I guess on MLB networking. I

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Speaker 4: was surprised a lot of empty seats in Baltimore. Man, what,

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Speaker 4: that's a great team, and you know, they sell out

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Speaker 4: opening day and then they're in the twenties the next

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Speaker 4: two days. Yesterday on Easter. I know it is Easter,

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Speaker 4: but on the final of that series, they there are

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Speaker 4: twenty thousand people and then you know, ninety miles up

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Speaker 4: the road in Philly, you know, it's forty four, forty

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Speaker 4: four and forty two. You know, I guess on the

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Speaker 4: positive Phillies fans is just amazing the way they support

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Speaker 4: a winner. And oh my goodness, last year they had

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Speaker 4: a great team and they're half full. It really surprised me.

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Speaker 3: You guys, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: A little surprising for me too, because I mean they've

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Speaker 2: been itching for a team. And the fact that now

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Speaker 2: Angelo's is out of the picture. I think people are

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Speaker 2: pretty happy about that too, God bless him. But I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Angelo's family kind of wants to get

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Speaker 2: out of there. And it was a Rubinstein. I think

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Speaker 2: he was a guy that you know, people are excited

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Speaker 2: about having be the owner. And I agree with you, Jim,

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Speaker 2: because the Gambin Yards can be one of the most,

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Speaker 2: if not the most exciting places to go watch baseball,

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Speaker 2: especially with that team.

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Speaker 3: Great team.

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Speaker 1: So top five ballpark for me, oh yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's tremendous, you know, petco At and T. For me,

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Speaker 1: Camdon Yards is right up there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think people will start going because they have

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Speaker 4: so much young talent and it's not even all there yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah with the Holiday kid, but really brilliant young talent

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Speaker 4: on that ball club.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, super stuff. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And don't sleep on CBP and PNC as far as ballparks.

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Speaker 1: Are love PNC PC is another top I will my

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Speaker 1: top five is expanding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I will tell you that I talked to

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Speaker 2: Alex Anthopolis.

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Speaker 3: I saw him underneath I think it was I think

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Speaker 3: it was opening day. I saw him underneath.

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Speaker 2: He's the GM of the the Bravos and and.

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Speaker 3: He's brilliant, no great job.

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Speaker 2: With them, And he said, man, this place is electric.

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Speaker 2: He said, this place is really amazing. Talking with her

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Speaker 2: into CBP and he's right, man, it's a special place, really.

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Speaker 4: Is Remember that quote that and Citizens Bank Parks twenty

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Speaker 4: years old still looks like it opened yesterday. It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: I mean the view from the mid level of citizens

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Speaker 4: Bank Park, you know from the press Bach Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame club on clear that, you know, with the city

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Speaker 4: skyscape is just I love Citizens Bank Park, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of how electric it is. And you remember

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Speaker 4: that famous Rob Thompson quote about one of the from

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Speaker 4: an opponent that they vanquished in twenty twenty two said

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Speaker 4: your stadium it's four hours of hell. My Rob never

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Speaker 4: gave up who it is I want. I think it

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Speaker 4: might be Snicker. He said that.

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Speaker 3: He says it was very well based on the fact

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Speaker 3: that his wife won't show up anymore.

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Speaker 1: He was asked about that on opening day Snicker. A

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Speaker 1: couple of guys went over and asked him if he

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Speaker 1: said that was like, what was so bad about it

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Speaker 1: when you were here? And then he finally says, like

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Speaker 1: everybody's I got my wife's babysitting and my grandkids are

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Speaker 1: in school. Anyway, they wouldn't have come anyway. But he

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Speaker 1: got asked about it on opening day.

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Speaker 3: I have to say, I love Snit man. They have

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Speaker 3: a great he's awesome over there, and they've lost a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of guys in Washington and Eric Young Junior because

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Speaker 2: they've gone over to to Anaheim.

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Speaker 3: And I was kind of wondering how that would affect them.

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Speaker 2: They have Tuyasa Sopo over there at third base and

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Speaker 2: Tom Goodwin at first who were you know, both good

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Speaker 2: baseball people. But I was kind of interested. They really

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Speaker 2: created an excellent culture there, man, and Snit's you know,

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Speaker 2: Snit's right in the middle of it.

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Speaker 3: And God bless him, he's old school. He's been around

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Speaker 3: a long time.

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Speaker 2: They got a great pitching coach that the Philly should

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Speaker 2: still have and I don't know why he's not still there.

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Speaker 3: And Grants, well.

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Speaker 2: That was that was a ridiculously dopey move. I've made

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Speaker 2: a bunch of those two. But just I mean, they lost,

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Speaker 2: They lost maybe one of the better, one of the

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Speaker 2: better pitching coaches in the game.

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Speaker 4: Ruben, I'd like to say that now you are a

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Speaker 4: teammate of ours on the on the Phillies show, also

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Speaker 4: known as the Todd Pod.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, No, No, I never made not one.

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Speaker 3: I made four hundred thousand of them. That's why I'm

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Speaker 3: on the Todd Pot right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you joining us. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a lot of fun over

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. And and I know I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of I got a lot of really

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Speaker 1: positive reaction.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: My mom said, she listened, she loves us. So you know,

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Speaker 1: not only not only are we digging into the Phillies demographic,

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Speaker 1: we are digging into the very casual brewers and demographic

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Speaker 1: from the folks out in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, how about we got that for us? How

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Speaker 4: about famous fan six.

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Speaker 1: Toe six though six Toe shot the tweet out and said,

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Speaker 1: I love the show. I loved the lunch talk most

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Speaker 1: of all. Remember last week we did thirty seven minutes

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Speaker 1: of Philly's talk. We did one minute of Jim mentioning

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Speaker 1: Hogi's and Ruben mentioning enchiladas, and that that that that

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Speaker 1: resonated with him the most.

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Speaker 4: Are you a green sauce guy or red sauce guy

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Speaker 4: in your red slaughters all sauce?

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Speaker 3: But I love green, green, green.

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Speaker 2: Listen, man, if it's Mexican, I'm eating it.

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Speaker 3: That's it's a symbols.

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Speaker 2: And if it's close to where you know where it's authentic.

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Speaker 2: There is a place I saw I had gone to

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Speaker 2: in Hoboken called La Casa. It's a tiny little place, man,

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Speaker 2: and it's I swear to you. The soup that they

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Speaker 2: made was the same exact soup that my grandmother made

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Speaker 2: back in the day. Like me, I will eat back

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Speaker 2: in Veracruz, Mexico for andresol the.

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Speaker 3: Lunch, dude.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the best soup, authentic Mexican Latin American soup, you

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Speaker 2: can imagine that half. Just fantastic and a great, great

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Speaker 2: little place. The place is just off of the like

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Speaker 2: the main street there in Hoboken.

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Speaker 4: It's what is it? What kind of soup is it is?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: You have they have, they.

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Speaker 3: Have, they have beef, they have just regular vegetables.

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Speaker 2: It's stay whatever you want, man.

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Speaker 4: Today's a really good day for soup, cold and raw and.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I agreed.

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Speaker 4: What are your sources telling you a todd about tonight's partido?

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Speaker 3: All? Wow, great spoim.

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Speaker 1: You know, we might have to record this the entire

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Speaker 1: second and third episode in Spanish. We could do like

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Speaker 1: an English version and a Spanish version based off what

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing, I.

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Speaker 3: Can spanglish it.

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Speaker 4: What are you hearing about tonight?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've heard the all three games are You know,

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Speaker 1: there's rain throughout the weekend, but I think it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to clear up later today. Hopefully it does because it

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Speaker 1: is too Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, I think it's.

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Speaker 4: What do you guys expect out of those Red Legs.

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Speaker 4: You got a lot of young talent in that one

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Speaker 4: through nine.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I really love the fact that they lost Marte and

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Speaker 2: the fact that they lost the other kid, the shortstop.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are good players, man, but but they're grinders.

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Speaker 2: And David Bell's done a nice job at that time,

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Speaker 2: and they've lost freed Freedle's like one of my favorite players.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a grinder too. I mean the guy

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Speaker 3: wasn't even drafted.

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Speaker 1: You got and Andrew Abbott versus Zanchez tonight, Graham Ashcroft

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Speaker 1: versus Spencer Turnbull tomorrow, and then Frankie Montas versus Wheeler

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, my biggest question, my big question on them

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Speaker 2: is there is there starting pitching if it's going to

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Speaker 2: be able to hold up and be consistent.

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Speaker 3: But I picked the team Cincinnati, the Red Legs to

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Speaker 3: win the n EL Central.

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Speaker 2: I really think that they I think that they're going

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Speaker 2: to be a really good team, but I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: Lodolo's gotta bounce back and be a guy. Green's gonna

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Speaker 2: have to be a dude, Hunter Green.

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Speaker 5: If they can, If those two guys can bounce back

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Speaker 5: and be guys, they.

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Speaker 3: Got a shot.

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Speaker 4: And you know it kind of signals the next storyline,

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Speaker 4: uh for the Phillies, which is Christopher Sanchez and turnball.

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Speaker 4: You know, your your four and your five spot in

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Speaker 4: your rotation is going to get the ball the first

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Speaker 4: two games of the series, so it'll be good to

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Speaker 4: take a look at them. And they're both important guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean the entire all five guys are important.

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Speaker 1: And I would expect Bryce Harper to be back in

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Speaker 1: the lineup tonight. They said it was a scheduled day

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Speaker 1: off on Sunday after that insanely scary uh tumble into

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Speaker 1: the camera. Well, so he'll be back to should be

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Speaker 1: back tonight, and we will be back after this Red

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Speaker 1: series later this week. We'll talk about that and the

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Speaker 1: upcoming first road trip of the season down in DC.

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Speaker 1: So thanks, guys, thank you, thank you, Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice ball talk, guys

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Speaker 1: Smell ya s guys, take care, Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Philly show