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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Gravel.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 2: coy Or joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard,

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Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good to be home. Good to see you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Just to wrap up, Just

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Speaker 3: to wrap up last week practice players of the Week

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Speaker 3: Keishawn Banks, DJ James, John Giles, Joe Milton and Lacida Smith.

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Speaker 3: Those guys did a great job for us. They deserve

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Speaker 3: to another good week of practice this week, you know, Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Look as always, we always turn the page. All of

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm going to continue to stress to

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Speaker 3: having a sense of urgency and really you know, learning

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Speaker 3: how to win. We haven't had a back to back

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Speaker 2: And we're told we went if you sit here, But

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Speaker 1: He's a long process of finding the right out seat

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Speaker 4: Question those type one point somebody else who was there

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Speaker 2: How have you seen the scheme developed since Drake's been

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Speaker 2: Planning for a team like the Rams that you just

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Speaker 3: I think he's one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: The challenge, you know, as a player did it many

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a sense of urgency. And I think

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Speaker 3: I just try to give them up. If we hit

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Speaker 2: He's I think he's only got four offensive snaps for

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Speaker 3: Look, this is still a work in progress, and that's

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Speaker 1: Film, is is sliding going to be more of an

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Speaker 4: I feel like I saw you like head first dive

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Speaker 3: We have a sliding period today and practice. Thanks get

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Speaker 3: somebody from the Red Sox Come down.

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