Speaker 1: Okay, so am I in Saint Bart's the best part
Speaker 1: about social media and frankly TikTok in particular is what
Speaker 1: they call citizens journalism. So the best thing about social media,
Speaker 1: the best slash worst thing about social media is citizens journalism.
Speaker 1: So what is this? You see these people they're reporting
Speaker 1: on different things. They're just civilians. But by the way,
Speaker 1: what are reporters. They're people who just are curious and
Speaker 1: they're writing about things with different information that they compile.
Speaker 1: And the thing is that when I was coming up
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry, there used to be sources, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't always sources to say, by the way, if
Speaker 1: you ever hear a source close to the Kardashians, a
Speaker 1: source close to the Housewives, a source close to anyone,
Speaker 1: it's their publicist who spoke to them or the mom
Speaker 1: or it's never there's never a source, Like it's just
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. So I don't know why people don't
Speaker 1: just stop that, like this is like this is coming
Speaker 1: from Chris Jenner going through IDPR, or this is coming
Speaker 1: through Jill Fritzo, Bethany's publicist going through Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's not there's not a source there's not someone like
Speaker 1: doing my makeup who is an insider, you know, And
Speaker 1: so that's a scam. But let's just move on from that.
Speaker 1: So certain publications actually have some vetting process, Like if
Speaker 1: you do something on the Wall Street Journal or the
Speaker 1: New York Times, they can't just write something. They can't
Speaker 1: just write something. And I don't even think that their
Speaker 1: online component will either. But certainly in print. They don't
Speaker 1: just write something online either. I didn't mean online online,
Speaker 1: they definitely don't either. But meaning it's like the New
Speaker 1: York Times tweets something, Yes, it's gotta be vetted. They
Speaker 1: would never ever post something in the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: or the Washington Post or the New York Times. But people,
Speaker 1: but everyone thinks that all the glossies are the same.
Speaker 1: So okay, Magazine, in Touch, even US Weekly, all of them,
Speaker 1: sources say, and they don't have to go vet the source.
Speaker 1: New York Post a source said, they don't have to
Speaker 1: really go vetted. And sometimes they need someone on the record.
Speaker 1: They don't need any of that. People magazine likes to
Speaker 1: have two good sources like that they really have vetted.
Speaker 1: So the thing about the Citizens' journalism is it's great,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like a mashup of what other
Speaker 1: people are saying. It's a regurgitation. I remember years ago
Speaker 1: that it was set in the media and printed that
Speaker 1: I had dated a Rod. I had never met a rod. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had dated the situation. I had never met the situation.
Speaker 1: So I always it's really dangerous. I remember years ago
Speaker 1: there was something that said Justin Bieber had gotten a
Speaker 1: girl pregnant, and it was like he probably had to
Speaker 1: live through that for a couple of weeks in the media,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't fun and it wasn't true. Jennifer Andison's
Speaker 1: been pregnant nineteen times if you read these magazines, and
Speaker 1: it isn't true. So it's not really like, it's not
Speaker 1: right and it's not fair and the person has to
Speaker 1: live through that for a while. I mean, the pendulum
Speaker 1: is always swinging. In the beginning, everyone felt for Amber
Speaker 1: Heard and not Johnny Depp because in the beginning it
Speaker 1: was that he physically abused her. You didn't have two
Speaker 1: sides in the story. So it's a dangerous game that
Speaker 1: things are very damaging until the real thing comes out,
Speaker 1: and then sometimes it's just stupid and it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: and I guess you can use it to your advantage.
Speaker 1: So it came out last week on the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: blogs and all over social media and TikTok from citizens
Speaker 1: journalists that I was on the plane to Saint Bart's
Speaker 1: and there is a person behind Ramona. In a post
Speaker 1: of Ramona's behind her on the plane, you see somebody
Speaker 1: in glasses, maybe aviators and a hat. And I do
Speaker 1: often wear a hat and glasses. So when everyone started
Speaker 1: saying that I was there, that I was going to
Speaker 1: Saint Bart's, and I didn't correct immediately because I was
Speaker 1: watching what was happening, because I wanted to see how
Speaker 1: far this stupid thing could go. When people just don't
Speaker 1: let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Speaker 1: It's a great story. I come to surprise, everybody in
Speaker 1: Saint Bart's, Jill's Aaron would love that story to be true.
Speaker 1: She was probably loving it, but in fairness to Jill,
Speaker 1: I was loving it too. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: funny to be reading about this. And then one person
Speaker 1: posted a picture of a fork as a joke, saying
Speaker 1: I think I don't think they were joking, but saying
Speaker 1: they see a reflection of me in this fork. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a joke, but it's really funny.
Speaker 1: So I am not in Saint Barts. I did not
Speaker 1: go to Saint Bart's. I did, but I do. And
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny that I'm so flattered by
Speaker 1: the way. I'm so flattered that I'm still part of
Speaker 1: this conversation, like I really really am. I have to
Speaker 1: thank you all and people that write this stuff that
Speaker 1: really want me to be there that I'm just actually
Speaker 1: genuinely flattered, like thank you for I was only there.
Speaker 1: I've been there for I think fewer than half the
Speaker 1: seasons that it's existed. And I love that I'm someone
Speaker 1: that people really just think of as part of it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that I missed. It's really really nice.
Speaker 1: So no, I did not go, and I was asked
Speaker 1: by somebody yes, or I was asked by Chris Harrison
Speaker 1: if I miss it. And it's different than him missing
Speaker 1: The Bachelor because there's some control and structure. I was
Speaker 1: watching Jersey last night because I was watching for a
Speaker 1: Rewives episode and I was thinking, when you're there, you
Speaker 1: could even be enjoying a whole season, you could be
Speaker 1: enjoying yourself and talking and having fun, and you don't
Speaker 1: know how trash you're being from other people. And sometimes
Speaker 1: it's warranted. You're being trashed because something happened. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: didn't invite someone somewhere, you said something you shouldn't have said,
Speaker 1: you did something, there was an article about you. You're this,
Speaker 1: you're a bad wife, you're a bad parent, you're broke,
Speaker 1: you're cheating, whatever it is. Sometimes people have other reasons
Speaker 1: that they just want to trash you. Maybe they're jealous,
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting paid more than them, Maybe they just
Speaker 1: want to take you down. I've had people come on
Speaker 1: and think I'm going to be the one to take
Speaker 1: her down, and you know, stronger women than the ones
Speaker 1: who have tried. Well, no strong women have died trying
Speaker 1: to take me down on that show. But I don't
Speaker 1: really want to go into an environment where you know
Speaker 1: someone's always gunning for you, and it doesn't mean everyone,
Speaker 1: because there are alliances, but someone's always gunning for someone else,
Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons. And then live out
Speaker 1: in the press something that doesn't matter to you, about
Speaker 1: someone that doesn't matter to you, and then you have
Speaker 1: to fight with them or not fight with them. Or
Speaker 1: be talked about or cringe every time you see that
Speaker 1: they're talking about you, and when you leave, you don't
Speaker 1: have that, and you don't have that on other shows.
Speaker 1: You don't really have that as much. On Sex and
Speaker 1: the City, there's some Carrie Bradshaw and Samantha drama that
Speaker 1: is off camera, but it's not rampant. They're not both
Speaker 1: running around talking about it all the time, and it's
Speaker 1: really just gross and you just cringe. And once you're
Speaker 1: off there, you're just not part of that conversation. Like
Speaker 1: Ramona's not running around talking about me. She might be
Speaker 1: right now on that trip, which is annoying because I
Speaker 1: definitely don't want to be part of that trip, and
Speaker 1: I'm not being paid to be part of that trip.
Speaker 1: But overall, I'm not part of the vernacular because I'm
Speaker 1: not part of the drama that happened, which I like.
Speaker 1: And then you don't want to be thinking about this
Speaker 1: thing for all these months that you're not being paid
Speaker 1: to film. So while the girls get paid a good
Speaker 1: amount of money, they get paid for episodes that air.
Speaker 1: So let's say they're filming for four months, and let's
Speaker 1: say someone has agreed to twenty five thousand an episode,
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers for that person to do that for
Speaker 1: that money. But okay, and then they do fifteen episodes.
Speaker 1: They're not being paid for the week they the week
Speaker 1: they do of press, They're not being paid for the
Speaker 1: four for the four weeks they do to lead up
Speaker 1: of press. They're not being paid for the social media
Speaker 1: they're doing. They're not being paid for the blogging they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're not being paid for all of the things that
Speaker 1: they're doing year round to support the show. So they
Speaker 1: really don't get paid that much considering what they have
Speaker 1: to do and experience and endure year round. It is
Speaker 1: a year round endurance project. Right every single person on
Speaker 1: vander Prompt Rules, even though they're on top of the
Speaker 1: world right now, is working right now, even though they're
Speaker 1: not being paid to work right now. This is not
Speaker 1: you know, when they're shooting or it's airing. So that's
Speaker 1: why when I say it's not like pounding my own chest,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a number. I always say it's a
Speaker 1: very high number to go do that, because even people
Speaker 1: always say why don't you do one scene? Why one
Speaker 1: scene for me means they market it as if I
Speaker 1: was in every so you gotta be smart. And I
Speaker 1: think that horse has left the barn. But I love
Speaker 1: being part of the conversation. I am not in Saint
Speaker 1: Bart's and God bless them for being paid one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars each to be there because they're gonna live
Speaker 1: it for six months, but they might like that. It's
Speaker 1: relevance even if it's not positive relevance. In some cases,
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton is not returning to Beverly Hills after two
Speaker 1: seasons of a friend of This is meaty, this is juicy,
Speaker 1: This will be three sides to every story. So I
Speaker 1: have not spoken to Kathy about this. If I did
Speaker 1: speak to Kathy about it, she would say either it
Speaker 1: was too stressful, or she was too stressful on or
Speaker 1: it was too stressful on her family or Paris. And
Speaker 1: Nikki really didn't want her to do it, but I
Speaker 1: know she wanted to do it. I know Kathy loved
Speaker 1: doing it. I know Kathy loved the platform. So this
Speaker 1: is interesting because Kyle is the newest reigning queen of
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So maybe Kyle really
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back. If Kathy was going to
Speaker 1: be on or maybe it caused too many problems for
Speaker 1: her and her family. But this is interesting because I know,
Speaker 1: I know Kathy liked doing it, and I know she
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. I don't know that from last week,
Speaker 1: but I know from I just know. I know. I
Speaker 1: said to her, what the hell are you doing this for?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? You're wealthy, you're married, your
Speaker 1: kids are grown, etc. Why. So this is an interesting
Speaker 1: one that you guys will have to do a deeper dive,
Speaker 1: because I know you are citizens journalists and you will
Speaker 1: figure it out. Because I would never call her and ask.
Speaker 1: And if I did call her and ask and she
Speaker 1: told me, I would not tell you because I never
Speaker 1: ever divulge any sort of secret. So that's why I
Speaker 1: feel comfortable talking about it, because I know what I
Speaker 1: know and I know what I think. But if I
Speaker 1: called her and she told me exactly what the deal was,
Speaker 1: if I called her and told her and she told
Speaker 1: me exactly what the deal was and not to say anything,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything. What the hell is? Why is
Speaker 1: this guy Louie all anybody talks about like usually there's smoke,
Speaker 1: there's fire. It was Brooks years ago on with Vicky
Speaker 1: Gumbelson and that was you know, there was fire there.
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on with this guy? Louie
Speaker 1: and restraining orders and lawsuits and like, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, a lot of michieg gos with this guy.
Speaker 1: And I think he seems fun and I think she's
Speaker 1: in love with him. And I met him and he
Speaker 1: was nice, which means nothing because I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: And I don't really know Teresa. I talked to Teresa
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes twice in a row, and we're
Speaker 1: like Instagram message friends, and you know, we're both on
Speaker 1: Bravo and have a respect for each other. And I
Speaker 1: put her on my Rushmore of Housewives friends, but I
Speaker 1: don't know her, so I certainly don't know him. What
Speaker 1: the hell with this guy? What is this? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Like I don't like this? I don't like this. How
Speaker 1: could so many people have so much against him? And
Speaker 1: he's jumping in tiktoks and he's super into it. He's
Speaker 1: dancing with Milania and Theresa and I kind of love it,
Speaker 1: like it's a fun and watching them dance. Why was
Speaker 1: he accused of buying fake bracelets for all the kids
Speaker 1: for Christmas. The boxes were fake, Like, what is going
Speaker 1: on with this guy? Somebody fucking tell me. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't watch, so I don't know, and if I watch,
Speaker 1: I'll be like needy. But I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: got I just don't know. I need to know what
Speaker 1: the hell's going on with this guy.