WEBVTT - Who the F*** Were We Working For? 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:05.040 Amy and TJ presents Aubrey o Day Covering the Diddy Trial. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.639 Welcome everyone to the Amy Roebuck and TJ. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:15.120 Holmes Present Aubrey O'Day Covering the Diddy Trial podcast. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.640 And we are now in the first or the full 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:27.800 fourth week of this trial, and every day it's something horrific, horrific, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.360 jaw dropping, combetive. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.120 Go ahead, Aurey, Why is horrific your word? After the 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.080 last day and a half, I guess we've seen of 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.159 testimony why horrific? 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.839 So I just think Mia was such a game changer 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.760 because she established a pattern of sexual abuse that wasn't 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.240 the way in which it's been spoken about pretty consistently 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.120 so far, which are these freak offs. There were just 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.240 alleged rapes occurring while she was packing a bag, when she. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.120 Was asked, not asked, basically. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.360 Forced for her job's sake, to live in his home 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.640 and not have locks on her doors, etc. There was 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.120 just all of this established behavior that is a bit 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.640 new for us to hear. So we're learning now a 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.479 broader scheme. We're also seeing somebody that was just an employee. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.280 She didn't want to be his girlfriend, she didn't want 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.760 to be in lovers with him, and now you're starting 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.200 to get to hear from more of the enterprise. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.959 Basically, that's right and right now as we're recording this, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.080 on the stand is Derek Ferguson, who had a lot 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:40.840 of different titles throughout Diddy's enterprise, but executive titles including 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:46.800 chief financial Officer. And you worked adjacent to him, around him, 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.200 You saw him around the building or at least around 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.600 the areas where you guys worked. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.760 Let me be clear, Amy, if he was in charge 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.559 of finance, which we know he was, I would likely 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.200 not know him because I didn't see a dollar. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.120 I say, you right up for that. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.280 Yeah I know, but I'm bomb. You did it, you 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:05.840 killed it. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.800 Listen hear he was also leading up all of the 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.040 fashion brands, He did the film stuff. He was overseeing 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.400 his portfolio basically so doing the day to day operations. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.760 But yeah, on the money side, none of the artists 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.880 probably would ever know him. He might be the least 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.079 known person to any of us over at Bad Boy 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.760 because the money was never coming to us, the artists. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.280 But what are we talking about, potentially, how damaging could 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.280 it be? This is a guy who knows about all 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.520 the money all. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.639 The money and where the payments were going. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.800 You know, like Cassie established in the beginning, she was 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.600 an artist that was signed to release ten albums. There 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.960 is a paycheck that goes alongside that, and they recoup 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.840 things obviously, but you get consistent paychecks. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.079 She made it very. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.839 Clear early on her full time job became doing these 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.080 sex parties, in these freak offs and recovering, so she 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.640 was still getting paid as a bad Boy employee. Though 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.080 as we saw these things going on while Dannity Kane 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.040 was still there, I remember there were a lot of 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.160 feelings of why do we have a platinum album? At 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.600 this point we had one, this was before our second one, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.640 and we would sit there and kind of see a 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.360 lot of very luxurious things happening and wondering, why are 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.959 we the ones that have the platinum albums and we're 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.640 still sitting on the floor wearing Forever twenty one, writing 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:31.840 songs like mad Women, and weren't carrying the bags that 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.840 Cassie had or arriving in the cars that Cassie was in. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.800 I mean, it was like almost this unfair feeling, but 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.520 she was so sweet to us. It wasn't necessarily toward 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.240 her but there was always questions of like, it was 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.440 very it was always we were always very curious as 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.840 to where the money is going and where we're seeing 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.680 it going versus who's actually earning it and keeping the 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.360 whole place afloat. But also in regards to Derek, he 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.480 will probably get into the whole financial structure. I'm sure 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.920 he was paid allegedly many people off. There's a lot 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.000 of DNA's going on. I'm sorry, there's a lot of NDAs. Go, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.640 haven't had my coffee yet, guys. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.000 No, you were right about the DNA. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:13.080 There's a lot of DNA. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.440 There's about left behind in hotel rooms and blood and 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.560 urine and yeah. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:18.440 It's all over. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:19.320 It's all over. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.760 You get that one light and turn off to go 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.839 to the dark Lord Jesus. But no, there's there's a 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.279 lot of NDA talk going on on the stand and 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.000 in general. I was even given an NDA when I left, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.120 and it said certain things that I could never do 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.040 if I wanted to be let out of my contract. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.240 I think he's going to be able to understand a 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.719 lot of the contracts. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.640 The money, the movement. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.680 And then also he was given a lead position over 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.599 at Revolts, so He also is likely going to be 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:56.000 able to talk about Mia and what he experienced working 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:01.440 with her and what he potentially heard, saw, or knows 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.360 to be true in regards to any of her testimony. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.720 Brian's last cross, he started off his cross with me. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.800 I thought, he you know, we're really talking one of 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:17.040 the best defense criminal lawyers. You could probably have, definitely 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.080 incredible on cross. His cross was like one of the 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.960 worst crosses I've seen in this test and this trial 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:30.600 so far, and this one this morning was a bit better. However, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.760 if you don't have anything to go on, you don't 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.279 have any other choice than to victim shame. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.880 Basically, you have one direction. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.280 If you had any real material to discredit her, they 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.240 would have used it. She was a strong witness, She 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.360 was credible, and she was consistent, and so he had 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.880 to be strong with her. Unfortunately, I mean the strong 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.440 was strong. He asked her direct questions. The questions I 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.040 took note of them because they were like so so strong. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.880 Well, the prosecution went as far as to say that 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:07.720 they were. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.000 Were harassing. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.039 He said, are you making it all up to me? 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.400 That's going way too far. That means you don't have 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:16.440 much for this girl. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:16.719 You have. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.240 Your smoke is very little because are you making it 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:20.880 all up? 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.680 Is he? It's noise. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.440 It's noise for the jury to get lost in. He 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.359 also straight up asked her numerous times if she was 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.880 on the me too money train, a bit tone deaf. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.080 I hope that he just carries that type of ideology 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.039 and language in the courtroom and doesn't take it home 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.560 to his family because that's a bit much. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.880 But basically just a lot of noise. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.560 And at the at the redirect, they were clear, are 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.680 you making any money? Are you going after him with 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.120 the lawsuit? Are you trying to get money from this man? 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.640 The answer was no. So at the end of the day, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.000 I think they kept her on the stand too long, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.320 and I think that the defense should have wanted her 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.240 to get off immediately. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.320 To that point, Yeah, they said they ran over with 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.560 this witness, so where they had to change the order 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.720 of upcoming witnesses because they went over on this one. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.440 I want to go back. We're going to to the 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.640 one who testified after Mia. So I'm getting everybody caught 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.600 up to most current times. So we're sitting there on 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.840 Tuesday as we record this, and the first witness up 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:32.200 today before the first witness even got up. This morning, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.240 we had a disturbance. You read about this more than 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.480 I did, but somebody had to be taken out of court. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:38.440 Whoever that was. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.360 They just said a man who used it on his 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.040 YouTube channel has been banned from the courtroom. So that happened, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.760 and then there was an outburst in court. A woman 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.160 jumping up in supportive Diddy started shouting, you know what, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.320 they're lying about you, They're saying things about you. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.480 She said she wanted him to hear that. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.440 There were supporters in the room who were behind him 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.120 and frustrated at what they were hearing in the courtroom. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.480 But she was move from court and taken out until 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:02.800 she could not return as well. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.200 So two big moments even before the jury was seated 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.280 this morning. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.600 So God, the only thing I compared to is the 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:14.400 amber heard and to where everybody publicly was kind of 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.880 taking size and its got really intense on social media 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.920 to hear about this outburst in court. What are you noticing? 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.120 I know you keep your your finger kind of on 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.960 the heartbeat of what's going on online, but what what 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.720 are you seeing in terms of that? Does that type 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.280 of outburst surprise you? 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:29.360 No? 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.720 I mean outside the core room, it's a shit show. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.000 I mean there's literally people out there wearing bras saying 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.839 I want to be in a free cough Like it's 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:43.560 getting really hectic outside. That is going to show, you 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.600 know what we've been discussing this entire time, this like 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.400 iconic status, this mass appeal, and then there really is 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.440 this strong understanding in our society that if a woman 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.760 at all, ever, like in the case of Mia, if 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.200 they ever just said I love you or happy birthday, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:08.080 or observed them in any type of positive way, even 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.000 after their abuse, that they're just liars and everybody's going 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.760 for a me too money grab. And it's just not 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.840 the way the psychology works. It's not the way coercion works, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.120 it's not the way influence and control work. It's just 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.040 a very hard thing to get people to sit down 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.600 and read psychology books. If we were doing that, I 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.240 think we'd be in a much different place politically right now, 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.160 you know what I'm saying, Like it's easy to brainwash 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.840 people into believing things. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.640 Yeah, and Aubrey, I'm We're curious what you the listener 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.520 is thinking as you're hearing about what's going on in 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.520 the court room because so many people do have strong opinions, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.720 whether you were believing these witnesses, if you're supporting Diddy, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.320 if you're wanting to see him go down. We actually 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.840 created a hotline and so we want to let you 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.840 all know now where you can call us. You can 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.240 send us your comments, your questions, anything you'd like is 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.080 to even discuss or talk about. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:02.720 All the tea. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.120 We want all the smoke, all the smoke and all 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.160 the tea call in. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.440 So the numbers hopefully pretty easy. It's eight four to 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.840 four four ask us Q. Right, that's cute. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.480 But here are the numbers eight four four four to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.640 seven five eight seven seven, And we'll do it again 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.400 at the end of the podcast in case you didn't 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.440 have time to write it down. But we would absolutely 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.960 love to hear from you because you're seeing all of 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:33.920 the interest in all of the vocalizations or presentations that 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.000 are happening outside the court room and even inside the 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.520 court room. So I'm sure so many of you also 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.280 would like to weigh in as well. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.520 And we love to hear and Aubrey Eddie Garcia on 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.679 the stand, the security guard from the hotel. Yeah, that's 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.200 the five that Diddy brought in one hundred grand in 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.079 a paper bag to give him and another security guard 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.000 to be quiet and to give him that video of 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.640 him beating Cassie. Is that in line? Did you ever 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.839 see things like that? Or is that something or I 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.880 guess just in line with what you knew about? Did 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.240 he for a rhyme? 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.120 It was always very common for people to come in 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.560 and clean up after his messes. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:09.599 Yes. Absolutely. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.400 What's interesting in that piece of testimony because we know 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.600 about the video. We've watched it fifteen times. They slowed 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.600 it down, rewind it, chopped and screwed and swerved it. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.000 We know what the video is. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.960 What's interesting in his testimony that stood out was we 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.040 heard that KK name again. KK came and gave him 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.560 a visit. KK told him, Hey, he was really out 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.720 of it. He was like super drunk. I forgot exactly 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.120 the words that she used. Intoxicated were the words that 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.760 she used, and that he didn't recall it. But what 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.720 I thought was interesting when he said that is hmm. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.400 When the video first came out, he said, my behavior 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.600 was disgusting. I went back and watched it to see 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.200 if there was any type of recalling in his little 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.600 statement that he made, and then I started looking through 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.760 the transcripts and realized they came forward in their answer 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.800 to that video originally was Cassie stole his phone. It 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.480 wasn't about a freak off. There was no sexual situation. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.439 He was pissed because she took off with his property. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.200 He shouldn't have behaved that way, but she stole something 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.280 of his that was suggested and thrown out there as 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.720 something that could maybe stick. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.920 Well, if you recall that she took your cell phone. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.319 Then certainly you have to be able to recall everything else. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.200 And so what KK then said to to what Eddie 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:35.440 Garcia testified to would then be have been allegedly not true. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.560 And if he was intoxicated and didn't remember any of it, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.600 then I don't think KK would have been sent over 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.839 to make sure that everything was handled with the video 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:45.240 because he wouldn't have remembered it. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.040 Yeah, and his name was saved in her phone as 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.760 Eddie my angel, I believe, but I thought some of 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.479 the details that Garcia testified to were so fascinating. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.120 Kyk's getting on this stand, y'all. I keep saying it. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.960 She abouts to come on this stand. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.839 Well and just so our listeners, No, KK is Christina 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.560 Korum Asara Korum, how you pronounce your last name? And 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.120 she was Ditty's chief of staff. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.040 She's known in the industry to be the person that 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.319 you go to if you need to get to Ditty period. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.160 I thought, just in terms of what the case the 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.720 state is trying to build against Diddy, Garcia said that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.240 he after like while they were working this out, while 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.560 he was giving him this money, he had him text 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.480 photos to Ditty of his driver's license as well as 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.600 ideas for his boss and the other security officer who 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.880 got paid, so that they all could be quote unquote 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.400 on the same page, meaning I know who you are, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.520 I know where you live, and if any of your 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.040 video gets out, I know where to come find you. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.960 And if you read a lot of the emotions that 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.640 came in early on in this trial, there was much 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.679 of that behavior. They were trying to get a lot 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.319 of things taken out on the prosecution side because allegedly, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.160 in front of a lot of these freak offs, did 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.640 he would make a statement, everyone here is happy to 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.400 be willing to be here right. There were alleged comments 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.360 being made that there were communications that were told to 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.719 be sent to people after these events occurred, saying, had 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.920 a great night, so glad we all did that consensually. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.440 There was a lot of cleanups. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.280 There was a lot of making sure everyone is on 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.080 the same page, allegedly, and there are a lot of things. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.960 What I think is just insane is the man that 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.480 I knew when I worked there was just so the 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.440 behavior was so erratic. It was giving allegedly a bipolar 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.640 type of feeling. It was bouncing around chaotics so much 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.040 like one minute is somber, the next one is we're 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:48.880 going to Bali. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:49.320 You know. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.440 It was just like every which way and for somebody 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.360 that was moving that quickly, he sure did pay a 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.720 lot of attention to make sure to have everyone else 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:05.200 calling the escorts, choosing the escorts, showing him the photos, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.840 getting what he wanted, selecting but them calling, handing them 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.440 the money, but them paying. Raving people say afterwards, I 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.600 had a good time. That's all coercion, that's all forced, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.600 that is all somebody And so to me, what's super 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.200 damning about all this that everyone's missing in all of 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.720 the noise and distraction. He's been very aware, in my opinion, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:34.320 allegedly that this behavior is illegal, because he's been passing 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.240 it off to other people to handle for a very 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.920 long while. Now, you don't do that when you know 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.200 what you're doing is legal. I don't question what I 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 do when I do it if I've ever in my 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.160 life sent anyone in to deal with it. On our end, 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.880 I mean, we don't do things like criminally, but on 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.960 our end, if you don't want a network to hate you, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.960 you'll have your manager or agent go and say what 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.360 needs to be said, and you'll cuss in yelly, agent 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.040 and manager like how dare they talk and treat me 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.200 like this? You know? That's the type of thing, though, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.840 is we know not to go to the network and 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.440 directly get at them because at the end of the day, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.600 that will directly affect our jobs. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.320 And our careers. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.160 So he just there was such an awareness for such 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.920 a long period of time that he needed to hand 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.080 over all. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:25.040 Of the burden to other people to clean up. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.200 Albert, who's his first call if he needs an n 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:36.120 d A. It looks like almost they were ready on standby. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.080 They have different folders allegedly probably for the different types 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:40.840 of things. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.600 Yeah, but for Diddy if he's in trouble, and he 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.400 needs an NDA, right, Like, how what is that process? 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.720 He emails this person and then a lawyer is involved. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.000 How would that possibly even work? 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.720 I mean, in my setting, it was You're out and 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.440 I'm in a three sixty situation, and I can do 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.840 anything from television to movies, to writing a book, to 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.040 an interview to anything. Three sixty means no, never work 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.440 in the industry again. We own you Those deals is 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.960 a whole nother podcast that needs to be discussed and 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:20.600 dismantled industry wise. But the NDAs basically silence you, and 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.800 there's a lot of money at the entail of them 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.120 if you happen to slip up. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.320 I believe, allegedly that's why we. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:31.240 Didn't necessarily necessarily hear everything I was hoping Capricorn would say, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.720 because if you don't break it and there's a payment, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.639 you likely could still receive the payment if you don't 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.320 break it. Now, obviously, on a federal stand you can 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.080 break anything you want to break because there's no rules 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.080 there and you can say whatever you need to say. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.000 But it could have been just smart maneuvering because she 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:49.679 deserves it. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.080 She went through hell. I don't know, that's all. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:57.920 Alike lawyers at his beckon call that also could potentially 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.680 be testifying here just who was made making these deals 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.840 for him, because whoever was making these deals, obviously one 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.960 could assume new about. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.879 Why it's a nasty job. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.879 I couldn't do it, and so it makes any question 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.720 the integrity of somebody that could talk. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.480 A little bit about more about who we're going to 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.960 see on this stand. And Derek obviously is on right 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.120 now the CFO. And by the way, we should mention 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.560 kind of to what you were saying he told the 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.360 jury he's testifying under a subpoena. We know that Eddie 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.960 Garcia was given immunity for him. So anyone who's testifying 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.240 right now isn't there because they want to, and some 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.760 of them concerned that if they didn't get that immunity, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.800 they'd be indemnifying themselves as well, or at least making 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:47.320 themselves legally in jeopardy. So these are people who wouldn't 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.280 have testified otherwise. Right. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.800 We have to remember that, like people can look at 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.000 immunity and think, oh, they just wanted to get off 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.800 and they had something on them. Those things are technically true, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.080 but also when you're asked King to establish something like RICO, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:07.480 an organization of people that are helping commit crimes for somebody. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.320 Everybody's committing crimes, and so somebody's got to be able 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.439 to get some type of immunity in order to be 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:18.800 able to end the enterprise from existing and continuing on 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.440 doing what they're doing. So you are going to see 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.639 people that have been a part of business practices that 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:31.520 are you know, a criminal potentially, or that can provide 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.520 some type of trail to basically just give info on 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.240 the internal business practices as he witnessed them to be. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.440 He obviously is going to say something damning or he 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.240 wouldn't have been on the prosecution's list. 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.800 To wrap up here on Mia, who finished her cross 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:53.720 examination yesterday, and again the defense went after her pretty tough, 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.040 how effective, and again I know you have your opinions 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.280 about how they did it, but they only need one 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.760 person on that jury to go wait a second, So 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.720 they really went after her credibility. And it's tough for 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.480 us on the inside on the outside who've never gone 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.439 through or had somebody go through being abused and what 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.840 that does to you psychologically, But for a lot of 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.200 folks to see that years after this rape and abuse happened. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.640 She's writing messages I love you so much, I'll always 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.720 be here for you. I love you with all my heart. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.119 I'm here for you forever. All of those things do 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:30.080 you think still was it effective? Even if it was 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:31.639 a little icky how he went. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.560 After same thing we could say about Cassie. I mean, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.359 these are just the patterns of the people that he abused. 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.600 And like I said the first day, you know, when 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.159 I read them, I immediately was like I had like 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.360 a visceral response. And then I thought to myself, I've 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:50.960