1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Knowledge. They called 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: Paul Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. You 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: you to know. Folks, we have a lot of interesting 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: conversations off air, and not all of them make it 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: on air. But we, like many other folks in the 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: audience today, have been talking a lot about the effects 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: of money. We did. We did an episode a few 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: years back called being wealthy make You a Bad Person 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: or something? And the science is surprisingly depressing and pretty solid. Uh. 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: But I think our conclusion was it doesn't necessarily make 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: you a bad person. It just makes it much easier 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: for you to become a bad person or behave in 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: uncool ways. But that's like an open secret. It's not 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: even a secret that money can make you increasingly disconnected 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: from the world around you. You get surrounded by opulent things. Uh, 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of syncophants and and yes, folks, 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and you're able to do whatever you want often without consequences, 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: and that can make people jaded. The old Ivory Tower situation, Yeah, 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: it's prety, it applies. I mean, it's literally like you 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: have the resources to kind of wall yourself in, whether 27 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: physically or socially or economically. And then like your old 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: friends from you know, when you were poor, Uh, they 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with you anymore because you've changed. Yeah, 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and you know, as many of our YouTube commenters I've 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: noticed recently and said out loud, we have that McDonald's 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: money now, so we get right, Oh, we've got the juice. Uh. 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: It's also the only point I would expand on there 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: is that Sadly, another open secret is that the ragster 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: richest stories are much less common than the media would 36 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: have us believe. So often, if you lose touch with 37 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: your old friends, they're your old friends from Phillips Exeter 38 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: or Harvard business and you're just out of touch. But 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, we do. We have that McDonald's 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: money now, and we've you know, got like I got 41 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: really into faberge eggs and monocles what weird things have 42 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: you guys gotten into? Well, I don't know, but you guys, 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: but I'm really enjoying my golden arches emblazoned Cadillac when 44 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I was gifted by the corporation as we refer to it. 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: And h yeah, I've been getting mcdonne old pizzas delivered 46 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: to me from or whenever it was. They're they're still good, 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: by the way. Awesome. Yeah, that's what happened to them. 48 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: If you want to check out more to learn this, 49 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: check out the podcast that we just learned about today, 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: whatever happened to pizza at McDonald's spoilers Other than that, 51 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: there are hundred and seventy seven episodes, so get ready. Uh, 52 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: but you're you're right. We as people look for new experiences, 53 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: and when you have access to so many experiences so easily, 54 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: you get a little jaded. You want new levels of exclusivity. 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to own a parrot anymore. What's the 56 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: most endangered illegal bird? I want to own that and 57 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: I want to teach it to dance with my tiger. Yes. 58 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: And you know, another important thing is that wealth often 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: comes over time and with age, and as you're getting older, 60 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you're thinking about a lot of things. One of the 61 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: major topics on your mind is self preservation. Right, so, 62 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: I I feel like another way to phrase that two 63 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: is new escapes, and one of the big escapes is 64 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: an escape from mortality. Uh. So, it's no surprise there's 65 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: some very wealthy or very powerful people get into really weird, 66 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: esoteric stuff, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's 67 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: just stuff that's merely out of the reach for most 68 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: of the public. Like you buy a dirigible, you're not 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: hurting anybody. It's just most people can't buy an airship. 70 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: But also likely, let's just say too, when we're talking 71 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: about these types of you know, escapes from mortality, Uh, 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: they could just be really expensive skincare products. They could 73 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: just be you know, really really pricey spa vacations, things 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: like that. Mud baths that the average person couldn't afford. 75 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily mean, you know, drinking the blood of virgins 76 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: or children. But today's story is about the dark side 77 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: of elite hobbies. It's a tale about shadow we secretive acts, 78 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: a new unholy combination, the bleeding edge of modern science 79 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and allegedly ancient rites. You see, folks, you may have 80 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: heard recently that there's a hot new drug, or I 81 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: should say a hot new drug making the rounds amid 82 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: the uppists of the upper crust. It's called a dreen 83 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 1: of chrome. Here are the facts a dreen of chrome. 84 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: You may have this. This word might be ringing some bells. 85 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a sect, but here is 86 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: the official story. First things first, it is real. It 87 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: is a chemical compound that's produced by the breakdown of 88 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: naturally occurring epinefrin or adrenaline. It's created both synthetically um 89 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and in small amounts inside the human body and other 90 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: mammals as well. The first synthesis lab creation of epinefrin 91 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: was in nineteen o four, and synthetic epineffer and hit 92 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: the market in nineteen o six. So to convert the 93 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: up an effronto adrena chrome, all you have to do 94 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: is allow it to oxidize you. You essentially um manufacture 95 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: and oxidization reaction with another compound called silver oxide. So 96 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: what what are the effects on humans? Well, there's there's 97 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: been some testing, uh quite quite a quite a bit, 98 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: but not as much as you may think on this substance. 99 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: And we'll get into the reasons why testing on this 100 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: substance isn't widespread. But you can use this stuff in 101 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: labs for all kinds of varying research projects. Really, researchers 102 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: have found that there are a few uses for it medically. 103 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: But again, this isn't It's not like this stuff is 104 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: being used all around the world to test for one 105 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: specific thing. Yeah, yeah, this is is funny. It reminds 106 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: me a little bit of the story of cream of tartar, 107 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: which some of us may have in our pantries today. Uh. 108 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Cream of tartar is like a byproduct of wine production. 109 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: It's the gunk left over in the barrels of wine, 110 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: and it's used for a couple of specific things. Uh. 111 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: But but is it considered a staple? You know what 112 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean? I would I would argue no for many people. Uh, 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: dren new chrome is kind of chemically it's kind of 114 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: like that, like they know how it's made, they know 115 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: the bodies produce it, they know it has maybe a 116 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: couple of medical uses, but there's not like it's not 117 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: like the silver bullet or miracle cure for something at 118 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: this point officially, but wait, so there are also some dangers, 119 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: possibly some downsides to humans being exposed to too much 120 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: adrenal chrome. Uh. There were some small scale studies back 121 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: in the through the fifties to about the seventies. Unlet 122 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I say small, we mean fewer than fifteen test subjects here, 123 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and these studies appeared to show this substance could trigger 124 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: some psychotic reactions. They were phrased as like disassociation. There 125 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: were two psychiatrists, Abram Hoffer and Humphrey Osmond, back in 126 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: the fifties who claimed that adrenal chrome can form in 127 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: the brain and may play a role in some specific 128 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: mental illnesses. And through these studies they found that a 129 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: few fairly common things could actually assist in curing schizophrenia 130 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: by the two things vitamin C and niacin. Interesting, right, 131 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: two things we've heard of before, Two things that exist 132 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of energy drinks and scientology treatments. Ye, 133 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: it's also like a popular thing to take if you're 134 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: trying to purge yourself for a drug test. I've heard 135 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: like people take lots of niacin because it makes you 136 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: like sweat out the impire. But it's also kind of 137 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: questionable as to whether that actually works or not. It 138 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: doesn't work anybody who's it doesn't work, find an excuse 139 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: to put off the test, give yourself a couple of days. 140 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: But but the reason why vitamin C in in nice 141 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: and we're important there, or at least the thinking here 142 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: in this research was that they would reduce adrenal chrome 143 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: levels in the subject. Yeah. They called this the adrenal 144 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: chrome hypothesis, which, fun fact, it's also the name of 145 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the math rock album that we were working on in 146 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: our spare time. The time signatures are crazy. It's it's 147 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: just like three tracks. One is two minutes long, the 148 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: other two or forty two minutes long. Honestly, it's it's 149 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: it's more laborious than it is fun for me to 150 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: try and get some of these time signatures in my drumming. 151 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Ben and I really, you know, I appreciate like what 152 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: we're trying to do, right man. Yeah, Yeah. The track 153 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: number three was forty two minute ones, which is just 154 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: called time signatures. I think we should explore a different 155 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: direction there, but at least reduce it by like twelve 156 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: minutes or some thing. I don't whoa, hey, whoa, all right, 157 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in that. We workshop it. But 158 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: there's one problem with with this study, even though it's 159 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: it sounds pretty interesting right. Later studies tried to reproduce 160 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: this megavitem and treatment as a way to address schizophrenia, 161 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: and they were not able to confirm any significant benefits, 162 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: any positive effects, making it at best maybe a placebo 163 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: or implying that there was something off about the methodology 164 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: of of the folks behind the hypothesis. Still, it didn't 165 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: matter because at the same time, we have other things 166 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: happening in Western culture, and this is hugely important. We 167 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: have a long, like a long running kind of in 168 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: joke in English literature where in multiple authors are using 169 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: the phrase adrenal chrome to uh to describe some sort 170 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: of some sort of enigmatic drug, like like think about 171 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: how if you're familiar with The King and Yellow, the 172 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: the entirety of the story of the King and Yellow, 173 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the original anthology is about this play that you can't 174 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: read because it will drive you mad, and so adrenal 175 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: chrome kind of plays that role here In a lot 176 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: of literature, it's described as the the druggist of drugs, 177 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the most hallucinogenic of hallucinogens, right and all this. Huxley 178 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Um actually mentioned this in an essay that he wrote 179 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: called The Doors of Perception, which you know, obviously the 180 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: band The Doors took their name from, and he refers 181 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: to it thusly says, then came the discovery that adrena chrome, 182 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: which is a product of the decomposition of adrenaline, can 183 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: produce many of the symptoms observed in mescaline intoxication. But 184 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: adrena chrome probably occur spontaneously in the human body. In 185 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: other words, each one of us may be capable of 186 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: manufacturing a chemical minute doses of which are known to 187 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: cause profound changes in consciousness. Um, does that? Does that 188 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: sound like anything familiar to anyone that we just spoke 189 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: about about the way d M T has described by 190 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: by many folks. Um, and also noticed there may is 191 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: used several times. And yeah, I remember this is Huxley speculating. Yeah, 192 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and let's not forget I mean, like drugs are a 193 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: huge part of Huxley's body of work in terms was 194 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: it solma I believe in a brave new world that's 195 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: sort of like made everybody was sort of the opposite 196 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: of what a psychedelic does. Psychedelic supposed to open your 197 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: mind and make you think about the greater world, whereas 198 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: solma was literally like an anti psychedelic which sort of 199 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: closed your mind in and made you falsely, you know, complacent. Yeah, 200 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: And we also have to point out, as far as 201 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: every researcher knows, uh, Altice Huxley himself never took a 202 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: drain of chrome, which is part of why those maize 203 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: are popping up in his essay. Uh. He also in 204 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: this work doesn't explore how someone would obtain this substance. 205 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: He just says, like from that quotation, it's spontaneously produced 206 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: like d MT from the human body. And it just 207 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: one last thing to remember here, Huxley is writing about 208 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: something that is being tested. There is research going into 209 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: this thing. He wrote Doors of Perception in fifty four, 210 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: and it's a known quantity, so he's he's pulling from 211 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: something that is just beginning to be understood, right, And 212 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: then those studies we mentioned before are until the I 213 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: think I think it's late fifties, sixties and seventies where 214 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: those days occurring. So just remember that, like it's an author, 215 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: a brilliant mind grabbing from a piece of science that 216 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: is just beginning right with a lot of unanswered questions. 217 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: And then we fast forward hunter s Thompson Gonzo journalists. 218 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I think he's a phenomenal writer. He also gives Adreyner 219 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: chrome a little bit of a nod. For many people 220 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: in the West, either the book Fear and Loathing Las 221 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Vegas or the film is going to be the first 222 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: time they may have heard of this substance, unless they 223 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: were an older person. It certainly was for me, and 224 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: I would love it very much if we could just 225 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: like steal a quick clip from the scene in question. 226 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: That stuff makes pure mescal and seemed like ginger beer 227 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: man A dream of chrome, A dream of chrome. In 228 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: the book, the specific quote from the characters Dr Gonzo 229 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: is there's only one source for this stuff, the adrenaline 230 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: glands from a living human body. It's no good if 231 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: you get it out of a corpse. And then there 232 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: there are more mentions about this throughout literature, both nonfiction 233 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: and fiction. Yep. And just remember there again, I hate 234 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: to be the time bandit over here whatever I don't know. 235 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a time in it, the time master or 236 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: whatever that that was written in n So just leaving 237 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: that out there. We've jumped now towards the towards actually 238 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the end of those studies that were being done. We mentioned, yeah, 239 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: we're jumping around. I have these like, we've got four examples, 240 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: and I have them kind of jumping around in time 241 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. Part of it was. Part of 242 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: it was based on how explicit the mentions were. Oh yeah, no, no, totally, 243 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: and that's totally fine. What I'm saying is when we're 244 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: thinking about how these authors are writing from where they're 245 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: pulling it from, it's just interesting to have that in 246 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: the back of your mind. Oh sure, yeah, like in 247 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: uh in Doctor's Sleep. That will be another cultural touch 248 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: point later on in the show. Uh. We know in 249 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: a Clockwork Orange. I believe in the film adaptation as 250 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: well as the novel. Uh, there's there's the popular milk 251 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: based cocktail Molocco Plus, and it has a just like 252 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: a smoothie bar. They've got a couple ladd ons he 253 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: can put in, and one of those is called drenn 254 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Crome dream Crum. Uh. You pointed that up in and 255 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: that it came flashing back. We got Velasette sent the 256 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Mesque and drend Crumb absolutely clearly a reference to what 257 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about today, and that that book, by the way, 258 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever talked about it, but 259 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's one. When it was originally published, they 260 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: removed the last chapter of the story, which makes it 261 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: completely changes the whole thing anyway anyway, And yeah, whether 262 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the redemptive the redemption arc essentially right, right. So another 263 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: book from the seventies ninety three called Legal Highs. There's 264 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: a guy named Adam Gottlie. This is nonfiction but very opinionated. 265 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: He describes adrenal chrome as physically stimulating. He says it 266 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: gives you a feeling of well being, and he implies 267 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: there's some disassociation. He says there's a slight reduction in 268 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: thought processes. We don't know if he ever took this 269 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: substance or if it was just based on here say. 270 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: We do want to mention that there are other things 271 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: mentioned in that book, like cat nip. I don't know. 272 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: If you try catnip once, never do it again. Never again. Yeah, 273 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: it certainly does make the creatures of the feline persuasion 274 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: go nuts. I heard a thing on in PR the 275 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: other day about what it is. It's like almost like Heroin, 276 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: like it affects their receptors in a in a similar way. 277 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: To like opioids, and there's some study about I'm sorry, 278 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I have to look it up after after we get off, 279 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: but uh, there's some new information out there about how 280 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: cat and it affects the brains of cats, and you know, 281 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: like nothing else. Finally, right, people need to know. Now 282 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: you may at this point be saying, Adriana Chrome, this 283 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: sounds interesting. I love the authors you named. It's a 284 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: shame that I'm not hip enough or enough of the 285 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: literati or a scientist to buy it. Well, good news 286 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of. You can literally buy this stuff if you 287 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: want some. You just hop online. I tried it. Unsuccess. 288 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: You tried it to buy it? I tried to buy it. Yeah, 289 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: I always try when we do stuff like this, like 290 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: when we did transcranial oh TCDs C S, yep tDCS. Uh. Yeah, 291 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: it is true. It's it's a chemical compound that is 292 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: created in many bio labs. There's one specifically, I think 293 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: this is the one. I don't know if this is 294 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: when you tried. But there's a place called Santa Cruz Biotechnology. 295 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: Is that is that the place you went to? Yes, 296 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: that's one of the places. It was a bummer. Okay, 297 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: so their prices. I went there because their prices are 298 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Just for just for fifty five bucks US, 299 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: you can get twenty five milligrams of a dryno chrome. Unfortunately, 300 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: it appears they mainly sell to quote unquote labs quote 301 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: unquote qualified medical researchers. I know. Well, it's funny though that, 302 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you ever heard anybody talk about like 303 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: these like research chemicals, right, there are a lot of 304 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: lab created analogs to psychedelics UM and methymphetamine and things 305 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: like that that are legally obtainable if you have the 306 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: right credentials, which you can do, you know, fudge, there 307 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: are ways to get it. I've not say I've known 308 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: any characters that fooled around and anything like that, but 309 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: they are out there. UM and things like to ce 310 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I and two CEB that are these these you know, 311 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: synthetic analogs to highly powerful psychedelics and not impossible to 312 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: regulate because it's just so easy to make one little analogue. Yeah, 313 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that's legally different and not scheduled. Here's a fun fun 314 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: thing that I found here, ben Uh. If you go 315 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: to s CBT dot com, which is where the Santa 316 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Cruz Biotechnology, that's their site. Uh. And you you know 317 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: you want to add something to your cart like adrenal 318 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: chrome uh down below. That's the thing that says you 319 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: may also like like like a recommendation of Facebook recommendation 320 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: or something down here. You know you've got uh in 321 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: in tacapone h toll capone. Uh you zero five to 322 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: one that sounds interesting and O right six all kinds 323 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: of chemical compounds that you can just add to your 324 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: cart and purchase all the hits. Uh. If you have 325 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: again a quote unquote lab and or quote well whatever, 326 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: I just is standing in the way of progress, folks. 327 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: I my penchant for self experimentation. Aside officially from what 328 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: we understand, adrenal chrome is it has uses, like Matt 329 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: said earlier, but it's not super useful. The main medical 330 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: use you'll see is too slow blood loss. It does 331 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: this by assisting with the synthesis of these fats that 332 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: are called prostagland and that those are the black colliding parts. 333 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: And then it can also help with the inhibition of 334 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: c O MT. That's that's something that deactivates certain neurotransmitters. 335 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: All pretty much like no, we'll say it's not hyperbolic 336 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: all of the online sellers that we found noted that 337 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: their stuff was synthetic. It's lap created. It's identical to 338 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: the stuff that would occur in mammals. Like it's literally 339 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a hair off, it's literally 340 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: the same stuff. What is there phrasing here? There's a 341 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: there's a f a Q at the bottom of the 342 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: at that scbt dot com and it says is this 343 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: is this the naturally occurring type or synthetic? It says. 344 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: The response is, thank you for your question. Adrenal chrome 345 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: this version is chemically synthesized, meaning created in the lap 346 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: by hues. So there's an other question though, this question 347 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: hopefully everybody saw it coming. What if people are already 348 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: secretly using adrenal chrome for something else. It's weird because, look, 349 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: we had that relatively dry, important and factual explanation of 350 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: adrena chrome. But when you look at literally the works 351 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: of literature versus the works of science, it almost seems 352 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: like they're talking about two altogether different substances. So is 353 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the stuff being sold online the same stuff mentioned in 354 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: these works of fiction? A lot of people and I 355 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people, guys, uh will tell you 356 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: this is not the case. YouTuber Liz Croaken is someone 357 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: that you can look up if you want to dive 358 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: deeper into this. But the question is this, what if 359 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: in opulent mansions, secret compounds, and hidden bunkers all across 360 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: the planet, shadowy members of the business community, celebrities, politicians, 361 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: decayed aristocrats more are all secretly partying with adrenal chrome 362 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: And if so, where do they get it? Well, answer 363 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: this question. After a word from our sponsors, here's where 364 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: it gets pretty all right, everyone, this is a big 365 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: one we're jumping into. We're this is a dive like 366 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: swan swan like dive directly into this. Are you ready? 367 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Good form, Matt, good form? Oh? Thanks? Okay. So here 368 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: is the idea that you will find spread all across 369 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: social media and from YouTube to TikTok to you know, Facebook, 370 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. This is the this is the 371 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: tail uh that the world's upper class, the elite, that 372 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: that point one percent of the point one percent uh, 373 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: they are using adrenal chrome. This is the this is 374 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the story that's told instead of you know, this weird 375 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: compound that can be used for a couple of things. 376 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: This thing is some kind of drug that is like 377 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: the one that's described by these other authors, but it's 378 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: also got something else. Uh, there's there's something else to 379 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: it that has to do with staying younger, being um like, 380 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: there's a vitality giving aspect to it. The biggest thing 381 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: here is that you can't get adrenal chrome, the true kind, 382 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: from you know, some lab that's creating it synthetically. You 383 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: have to get this stuff from a young person usually, 384 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: or or a mammal that's close to humans, like a pig. Yeah, 385 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: you gotta get a fresh baked during Illuminati inspired and 386 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: or Satanic rituals or you know for some people in 387 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: that community that's a six and one hand half a 388 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: dozen in the other. But during these rituals, alleged these 389 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: adrenal chrome addicts uh subject a person or multiple people 390 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: to uh severe levels of trauma and torture, and this 391 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: is to force their adrenal glands to produce what will 392 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: become the adrenal chrome we we should mention like it's 393 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a highly addictive psychedelic, which is 394 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: weird because we don't know anywhere in scientific literature. Another 395 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: example of a highly addictive psychedelic there aren't people out 396 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: on the streets like slapping the inside of their elbow 397 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: because they need their LSD injection, right. It just they 398 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: don't work that way mechanically or chemically. I should say. 399 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: It makes me think of like the idea of um 400 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: drinking somebody's fear. I don't know if you remember the 401 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark with the 402 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: creepy doctor character with the beard. I think his name 403 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: was Zar do are Dough or something like that, and 404 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: he has a little cafe on the woods and he 405 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: has the best soup in town. And spoiler alert, Are 406 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: You Afraid of the Dark? Turns out it's made by 407 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: siphoning people's fear and and and and and creating a 408 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: very potent liquor that he then like does a little 409 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: drop of and everyone just loves the soup. And we 410 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: can keep making references like this because I I'm thinking 411 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: about Monsters, Inc. That I've recently watched, because I've got 412 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: a five year old where where fear is the power 413 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: the power source for an entire world or realm? I 414 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: guess sure, yeah? And the and fear is the fear 415 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: is the bread and butter of it were also known 416 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: as Penny Wise and the Stephen King novel. I mean 417 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: and in the military industrial complex. Okay, right, I think 418 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: it's a common Um, it's a common trope because it's 419 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: a great piece of a story. So the problem is 420 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: the people they're torturing allegedly are children because according to 421 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: the elites who are into this, uh, they're they're consider 422 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: capable of producing more pure high potency adrena chrome. So 423 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: for people who believe this theory, uh, this is an 424 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: explanation for disappearances of children around the world, as well 425 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: as sex trafficking rings. They're also not They're not just 426 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: accused of harvesting adrenal glands or harvesting children for adrina chrome. 427 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: They're also accused of taking their blood to uh to 428 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: elongate their own lives and harvesting organs of course, But 429 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: who are these elites. When we say elites, all people's 430 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: elites are not the same, right, Like we can agree 431 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: maybe the pope and uh some members of royalty, but 432 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: not all are elites. But who else? Well, uh, many 433 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: of the folks that you hear lumped in with a 434 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: lot of these q and on kind of conspiracies. Um 435 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: that are you know, allegedly eating babies and hearing their 436 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: faces as masks and doing satanic rituals um involving cannibalism 437 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: and pedophilia. Folks like Bill and Hillary Clinton. Uh podcast cohorts. 438 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: Actually well yeah, well it's interesting. Right. Let's leave that 439 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: there for a moment, because in a in a moment 440 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: of full disclosure to everyone, as as Noel said, both 441 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Bill and Hillary have podcasts on our network that I 442 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: believe have both been announced. I know Hillary's is live, 443 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: but Bills went live yesterday. See, so we and we're 444 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: doing this episode right now. I'll tell you about this 445 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: stuff with these people who are considered the nefarious ones 446 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: in this theory. Uh. And at the same time this show, 447 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: the three of us have made episodes specifically on Bill 448 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton before where we've talked about stuff. Uh. 449 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: So just you know, put that out there in case 450 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: anybody wants to comment. On the one hand, it's full disclosure, 451 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: but on the other hand, it's just it's fast. It's 452 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: a fascinating place to find oneself. Yeah. I think the 453 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton Show is in season two. I want to say, 454 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: is that correct? Heading that way? Yes, it's headed that ways. 455 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: It's like I think the season one just wrapped. Ah, 456 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: there is so this list of celebrities also includes people 457 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: like Nicolas Cage, Johnny Depp, Jim Carrey, Ellen degenerous for 458 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: some reason, uh, Barack Obama. When the only the only 459 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: thing I noticed on this that seems that seems like 460 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: a commonality other than wealth is that generally the politicians 461 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: accused of doing this are going to be what we 462 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: would call on the left side of politics. Right. Did 463 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: you guys see any right wing folks excuse to this? No, generally, 464 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: That's that's the way it is. Because again, this everything 465 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about here spawns almost directly from Pizza Gate 466 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: and the Hillary Clinton email scandal and like connecting the 467 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: several other things you know together, where the adrenal chrome 468 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: conspiracy is kind of like a child of some of those, 469 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: and I would argue that goes even further back than that. 470 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: In this conspiracy lore, we see we see the echoes, 471 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: the ripple effects of things like the old blood libel 472 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: accusations that were used we'll talk about it later in 473 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: the show, that we're used to oppress or justify the 474 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: oppression uh, and violence against minorities, and you know, the 475 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: the elite are a type of minority. They're just very 476 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: privileged minority. But then also again, what's weird about this 477 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: list is it feels so arbitrary. It feels like you 478 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: could just be picking picking people at random who tend 479 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: to be in the news pretty often, you know what 480 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, the for people who believe this story, 481 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: the one of the big things is that the adrenal 482 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: chrome addict and will slow signs of aging. Saved four 483 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: and I hadn't heard about this, so we started doing research. 484 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Save for apparently bruising that appears around the left eye, 485 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: specifically after prolonged use, and you know where that comes from, right, 486 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: injecting it into the eye. No, the there's another conspiracy 487 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: theory about an initiation ritual dealing with bruising around generally 488 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: the left eye that has occurred with many again elite 489 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: left leaning politicians and public figures. What was going on 490 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: with Mitch McConnell and all his bruising that kind of 491 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: came and went for that little period. Well, the story 492 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: is it's it's uh speculated to be a medical condition 493 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: that it got over. But when he was asked about it, 494 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: he said his health was just fine and declined to 495 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: explain any photos show it his bruised hands. So not 496 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: explaining it, which I totally understand because you're a politician 497 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: in this situation. But not explaining it is just feeding treats, 498 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, to the conspiracy trick of treaters at this point. 499 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: And and the good stuff too, not that not that 500 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: orange and black waxy taffy crap? What is that? Are 501 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: you talking? Oh, God, like candy corn or the little 502 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: weird pumpkins that just tastes like sugary plastic. Yeah, B 503 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: level Halloween candy, not notre ago? What a what a 504 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: specific insult you, sir? The B level Halloween candy of 505 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: our friendship Halloween bag. So uh so you're right, Um, 506 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: we we've seen this. One thing I think is important 507 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: for us to note here is that a lot of 508 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: times when you hear things like this described, you'll see 509 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: this in YouTube videos about people being in hip hop 510 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: and the illuminati. What what you're seeing the evidence presented 511 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: is someone's interpretation of an image, right, like Jeez, he 512 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: holds his hand in a specific way in a music video. 513 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: This is a dog whistled to the illuminati, says the 514 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: true believer, and and I would argue, there's there's something 515 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: similar going on here. But the weird thing is this addiction, 516 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: if it's an addictive substance, is said to be crippling. 517 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Like the withdrawal symptoms, according to the believers, are way 518 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: more intense than things like meth amphetamine or crack cocaine. Like, 519 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: it seems like it would be tough to hold down 520 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: a functional job if you were an adrenda chroma addict, right, 521 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: doesn't It seem like that would be the case unless 522 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: you had just a steady supply and you were like 523 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: the william S Burrows of adrenna chrome and could just 524 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, get your fix readily until you you know, 525 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: wither away just from like old age, like he seemed 526 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: to have done. Um. It's fascinating that, you know. It 527 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: makes me think of like the best fictional trope I 528 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: think for drug addicts is the vampire, because the vampire 529 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: needs that ready supply of blood. If they don't have it, 530 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: they start to waste away and get all pale and fatigued, 531 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: and they can't, you know, Like, I think that's the 532 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: best stand in for any kind of addiction. And again, 533 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: blood libel explanation coming up very very shortly here. Yeah, 534 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: it definitely. This is the kind of thing that if 535 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: you were to write it as a fictional story, this 536 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: would be a great reason for anyone who needs a 537 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: g adrenal chrome to go to any length, great lengths 538 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: to get another hit, right, because maybe in this narrative, 539 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: it maybe that the withdrawal symptoms for the substance are fatal, 540 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, because that's something that can really happen with 541 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: some substances. Uh, this this is a lot, you know, 542 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: but it goes further. How far well, I'll tell you 543 00:34:51,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsor, We're b okay. So, 544 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: as we said earlier, this does tie into things like 545 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: the q and On dis info campaign as well as 546 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: the the wide panopoly of COVID slash Bill Gates theories. 547 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: According to one line of thought, and I was scouting 548 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: for like the most out there ones. One line of 549 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: thought says, okay, COVID was created by Bill Gates and 550 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the illuminati as either what a way 551 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: to implant people with microchips, which is pretty easy disapproved, 552 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: or as a way to create a false flag to 553 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: lock down the country, to do raids, black bag people, uh, 554 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: execute military operations and have it all passed under the 555 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: radar um. And then White Hats, you know, like the 556 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: hacker White Hats uh of Death con fame, who are 557 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: somehow embedded inside of this system but working against it, 558 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: managed to throw a banner into the machinery. They managed 559 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: to throw some monkey wrenches in a really weird like 560 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: it would be a good movie, That's what I'm gonna say. 561 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: It would be an interesting dystopian sci fi movie. Well, yeah, 562 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: because there's the YouTuber that we mentioned earlier, Corkin. Uh, 563 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: this is a quote from her ready. Uh, they tainted 564 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: the elite's adrenal chrome supply with the coronavirus, and that's 565 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: why so many members of the elite are getting the coronavirus. 566 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: So their supply like they have a communal supply, like 567 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: a giant trough of the stuff for a water tower, secretly, 568 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, secreted away in some underground cave or bunker. 569 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: And how long does it keep? I thought you had 570 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: to create harvester and then harvest it, right. I thought 571 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: it had a very short shelf life. But but still, 572 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: what's the cannon been? What's the canon? A? What's the cannon? Right? 573 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: Is nothing sacred. Uh. So this some people have just 574 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: heard about this, maybe in twenty nineteen or twenty or something, 575 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: but as we've established, this has been around for a while. Uh. 576 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: And you may have seen if you if you're a 577 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: c Span addict instead of an Adrenna chromaddict, you may 578 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: have seen one of the most high high profile examples 579 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: of this stuff getting mentioned. CEO of Google was talking 580 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: with the House Judiciary Committee in US House Judiciary Committee, 581 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: and so when there asked him about a conspiracy called 582 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: frazzled Drip, which I had I had not heard of. 583 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: Fun fun to say, but when you kind of describe 584 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: what it is, it makes you throw up in your 585 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: mouth a little bit. The word takes on a whole 586 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: new meaning. It reminds me of something like you might, 587 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: like refer to a really gross Internet phenomenon by a 588 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: seemingly innocuous word, but then when you look it up, 589 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: it gives you way more than you signed up for, 590 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like goatsy, do not look 591 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: that up? Do not look that up? Did you guys 592 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: actually look at the Google trending for this, like the 593 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: actual graph. I pulled it up and in program thing 594 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: where it like shows the prevalence of searches. Yeah, exactly, 595 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: And it's it's weird because they're not giving you actual 596 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: data here. They're not telling you how many thousand or 597 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: million times a term was searched, but they are showing 598 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: you a score of zero to one hundred as far 599 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: as it's popularity as a term. And right there in 600 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: March of twenty note February, right, yeah, March it has 601 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: a score of two. So that's from March one to 602 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: March seven. Then you jump over to March through the 603 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: twenty one it has a score of one hundred, as in, 604 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: like this thing is hot fire to be searched for. Well, also, 605 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people digging into these kind 606 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: of beliefs because they were restricted at home, you know 607 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. They were there are normal routines were 608 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: knocked as you but uh frazzledrip. Yeah, it's it describes 609 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: a graphic, a gross thing. The idea is that somewhere 610 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: hidden away on Anthony Weiner's laptop, there is a top 611 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: secret video that depicts that depicts Hillary Clinton, former Secretary 612 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: of State, Hillary Clinton, and an aid performing a quote 613 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: satanic sacrifice in which they slurp a child's blood while 614 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: wearing mask carved from the skin of the child's face. 615 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: This is this was two people believe this. This was 616 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: going to be smoking gun proof of an adrenal chrome harvest. 617 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: I just want to note, at the time of this recording, 618 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: no tape like that has material, and it is really 619 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: quickly to uh. The aid in question was Huma Aberdeen, 620 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: who was the wife of Anthony Weiner and he and 621 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: who he cheated on, uh with you know his whoever 622 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: he did when he said all the you know Weener picks. Um. 623 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: So that was a big thing in the news at 624 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: the time that he had this compromise this you know, 625 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: this laptop with all of those types of images on it, 626 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: but also with theoretically or allegedly compromise on other folks. Uh. 627 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: So he's like blackmail essentially. The story. Come on, if 628 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: this tape existed, I just we we would have a 629 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: screen grab. We would It doesn't exist. There's no there's 630 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: not not a chance. There are many alleged screen grabs 631 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: of that moment of that thing that you can find online. 632 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: I would say I've gone through many of them personally, 633 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: and there's no identify there's no way to identify the 634 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: people that are in these alleged images, and they also 635 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: appear to be doctored images of something completely innocuous that 636 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: you can also find online. I would also say there 637 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: are many depictions of these images that you can make 638 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: at home, which is what a ton of people did. 639 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: So the shout out the photoshop is all I'm saying there. Um, 640 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: So these claims, that's a lot. The idea here is 641 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: interesting because there's a bit of double thing involved if 642 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: we walk through it. The idea that adrenna chrome is 643 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: both a debilitating addictive drug and a miraculous life extending 644 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: serum that it can it can kill you through the 645 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, the sheer force of the withdrawal symptoms, but 646 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: then it can also keep you alive longer than the 647 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: average bear. Uh. And then the idea that it only 648 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: really does the trick when it's harvested from human bodies. 649 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: You can't call it adrenna chrome unless it's withdrawn from 650 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: the adrenna chrome region of the human Otherwise it's just 651 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: sparkling fear or whatever. You know. Uh. This this book 652 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: um by Hunter S. Thompson Fear Loathing in Las Vegas. 653 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: Because of that line and that's pretty small line about 654 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: the panel glands. People were convinced that's where this stuff 655 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: was produced. But the ant there's like way less cool 656 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: and third eye oriented. Uh, adrenal chrome is generated by 657 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: your adrenal gland that sets on top of the renal glands. 658 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: You might recognize the renal glands by their street name, 659 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: the kidneys. Yeah, that's that's that's down here. That's low. 660 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: That's low, very low in the body, different place. Um, 661 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: it's really it's really interesting just that a fiction writer 662 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: can you know, plant a concept of something in our 663 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: heads or or their readers, I guess, or and just 664 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: anyone who consumes their material, no matter what medium it 665 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: finds itself in, they can convince them of a complete untruth. 666 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: Especially and it's the worst when it's when it's like 667 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: actual science or actual science, and we talked about on 668 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: the show all the time. That's where there's almost always 669 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: that grain of sand or around which the pearl is formed. 670 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: So it's just I don't know, it seems dangerous. Way 671 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: tell the truth, but tell its slant, you know what 672 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean? So okay, but let's dig into this. So 673 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: let's let's do some if thens. So all of the 674 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: official science so far argues that lab synthesized and naturally 675 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: produced adrenal chrome uh, those versions are kind of indistinguishable 676 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: in terms of their effects. They do the same things. 677 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: It's chemically the same stuff. But let's say it's it 678 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: wasn't Let's say it's somehow different that you know, it 679 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 1: somehow matters if you get it from a live human being, 680 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: and then you will experience a different effect. Let's think 681 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: of it like, let's say it's the way that a 682 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: the diet of a bee hive will influence the taste 683 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: of honey, or the kind of uh plant matter of 684 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: cow eats will influence the taste of the milk. Let's say, 685 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: for some reasons like that, how would you get the 686 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: adrenna chrome out? We found a really interesting answer from 687 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: an expert, by the way, and um, because I was curious. 688 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, is it Is it something 689 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: where there's like a little metal straw you stick in 690 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: someone's neck, or do you have like a pump or 691 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: what what do you do? Well? According to Dr Steve Middleman, 692 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: who is a u c l A expert in pediatric 693 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: indo chronology, UM, he says he's never seen evidence of 694 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: this practice. But if it were to occur, in the 695 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: practice being extracting you know this this substance, if it 696 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: were to occur, he would kind of be the expert 697 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: in how to do it correctly. Uh. And according to him, 698 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: it would take a lot of doing. First, you'd have 699 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: to do surgery. Like you can't just suck it out, 700 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, Ben, like with a straw. 701 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: Remember those orange juice commercials when they stick the straw 702 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: straight into the orange. I always thought that seemed really satisfying, 703 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: but wouldn't work. You just get you get a straw 704 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: full of pulp and no juice. Um. So that would 705 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: be kind of the equivalent here on a really rudimentary 706 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: level um surgery. A second, you would have to run 707 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: through a series of really complex purification steps to actually 708 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: separate out the adrena chrome from all the other juice. Uh. 709 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: And then even if you had all that and all 710 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: the time in the world and the equipment and the expertise, UM, 711 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't get any more than like half a 712 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: milligram per child. So I think we would have a 713 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: serious spike in missing children uh cases if this were 714 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: actually happening a lot of milk carton kids would be 715 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: popping up. UM, don't know that I've seen that in 716 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: the news. Well, hey, do you wanna you wanna talk 717 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: about that really quickly? We got some stats here from 718 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: the FBI twenty nineteen n C I see missing person 719 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: in Unidentified Persons statistics. We've talked about this on many shows, 720 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: but this I think it's fascinting. I'm gonna hit you 721 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: with a bunch of stats just so you get an 722 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: understanding of this really quickly. So here we go of 723 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 1: the six hundred and nine thousand, two hundred and seventy 724 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: five records entered in uh, let's see this thing called 725 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: the missing Person's Circumstances field within. You know, a report 726 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: that's generated was utilized two hundred and ninety four thousand times, 727 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: which is about forty percent when it was utilized. UM, 728 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty thousand of those were coded as runaways, 729 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: two thousand, four hundred as abducted by non custodial parents, 730 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: and three hundred twenty two as abducted by stranger. Okay, 731 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: so how many metograms are we talking about here, Matt? Well, 732 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean that that wouldn't be many right, rebel, Who 733 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: knows because that's just the official Well, yeah you would, 734 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: but that's the official reporting. And who knows how many 735 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: of those abducted by strangers would have anything to do 736 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: with that? You couldn't, you know, how could you ever 737 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: quantify that? Um? Also, yeah, how many of those runaways 738 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: then would fit in there? Uh, these stats aren't really helpful. 739 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to show that there were around three 740 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand missing persons in well that we know that 741 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: we and again I'm not trying to be a jerk here, 742 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: but like, how many milligrams of this stuff would it 743 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: take theoretically to you know, to experience the effects? Uncertain? 744 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: There hasn't been. Ah, the people believe that this is happening. 745 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: I haven't had specificity in that regard. Um we do. 746 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 1: I do. I did find records of people who said 747 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: that they took adrenal chrome and the people who said, 748 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, I did it. I have firsthand experience with it. 749 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: The reports are kind of hilarious in like it's funny 750 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: because you're okay kind of way, if that makes sense. 751 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: They're like, I felt like crap, these terrible headaches I 752 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: it and hallucinate anything unless I was hallucinating the headaches, 753 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: which I was not. They seemed very unimpressed with their 754 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: dreader chrome experience. But look, if you're not getting enough, 755 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: if you're not getting your milligrams for whatever dose you 756 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: need from humans, then why would you not get something 757 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: like the adrenal glands of a cow available at your 758 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: local butcher's store? You know what I mean? Even a 759 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: grocery store can probably order them for you if you 760 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: ask in advance. Man, that's just way less evil, wouldn't 761 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have the same ummmy of of of the 762 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: avoid you know. Yeah, it's just sparkling wine, not champagne, right, 763 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: fish row not caviare uh? Can I? Um no? Maybe not. 764 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: I was going to read something from one of these 765 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: websites where we found this, you know, conspiracy theory to 766 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: be out there. I don't want to go to political 767 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: with it, but I just I want to read the 768 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: note that's at the very bottom. This is a website 769 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: that is describing what we've told you here about the 770 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: theory around adrenal chrome and the elites and taking it 771 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: from children. This is the disclaimer at the end says, 772 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: please note the author of this article would like to 773 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: remain anonymous for she escaped one of these rituals many 774 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: years ago. But after thorough investigating, we find these statements 775 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: to be very much true in all caps. Um. I 776 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: just want to put that out there before we talk 777 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: about the next thing. I think that's the one I sent. 778 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: I was like, this is a fun one. Yes, okay, 779 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: so really quickly, and I'm sorry I'm hung up on this, 780 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to point out that LSD and 781 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: highly potent psychedelics are usually measured in micrograms, not milligrams. 782 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: So one microgram is point o one milligrams, So presumably 783 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: a milligram of this stuff, if it's as potent as 784 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: LSD or some of these other substances, would pack quite 785 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: a Whileop. There we go. Yeah, well, let's let's look 786 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 1: at proof. If proof exists. Uh, it's possible that there's 787 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: a cultural exchange that took place, which I think is 788 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: really interesting. Uh. Adrenna chrome's current conspiratorial status could have 789 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: come from hippies and beat nicks. I mean, it's an 790 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: objectively cool sounding word. It also has nothing to do 791 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: with the element chromium, by the way. Uh, people may 792 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: have just been using that as like a cool code 793 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: word for LSD, and then the actual real adrenna chrome 794 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: got wrapped up in the narrative. I mean, Hunry s. Thompson, 795 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: even publicly multiple times, is like, look, I made up 796 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 1: the effects of that adrenda chrome drug. I just really 797 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: needed a drug that was beyond the pale. And you know, 798 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,479 Speaker 1: I was writing fiction and in the film and the book, 799 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the effects are really just like a super 800 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: super potent dose of LSD. Yeah, and I would pause it. 801 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: It sounds more like d m T, like the actual 802 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: thing of d MT that Hunters Thompson was writing about. 803 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: And also, you know, if you're writing fiction, you're always 804 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: looking for cool words literally, you know. Uh So there's 805 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: a bigger picture here. There may there may be, I 806 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think we can trace it back 807 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: to just one thing. But we see multiple threads converging, 808 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: and we see this story kind of weaving in and 809 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: out of them. This is not a new story. Yeah, 810 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: it goes back to pizza Gate. It's a repackaged version 811 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: of these older accusations in the past. As we said, 812 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: we're used to rile up communities to take action against 813 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: persecuted minorities. One thing that's different in this case is 814 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: that the subjects of the of the conspiracy theory are 815 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: some of the world's most powerful people. They're the opposite 816 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: of persecuted. But the tropes and the folklore are largely 817 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: familiar and unchanged. One thing has change age, though it's 818 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: a very important thing. The technology at play. Well. As 819 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: we said, money plus age equals putting money that you 820 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: have into your research into figuring out how to not 821 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: die or make life a little better in your seventies 822 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: or sixties or however old and wealthy you are. Because 823 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: there are researchers all around the world that are getting 824 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: money startups that are you know, coming through adventure capital 825 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: money to find ways to extend the human lifespan and 826 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: to make it just a better experience to be older. Um. 827 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: We we talked about this in an older episode about months. 828 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: I think we called it modern vampiresm or something around that. Yeah, 829 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: we we talked about this very real thing that got 830 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: pretty popular in twenty in a few years around that span, 831 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,959 Speaker 1: where people were talking about specifically taking young blood from 832 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: a subjective years old and doing transfusions with an older 833 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: person and then somehow that older person getting all kinds 834 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: of benefits, like a fountain of youth kind of situation 835 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: through sharing blood with a younger person. And this is 836 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: a thing called parabiosis. It's fascinating. The concept has been 837 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,959 Speaker 1: around since the eighteen hundreds, this technique where you take 838 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: an old subject a young subject and then connect the 839 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: two circulatory systems together. Um, yeah, it's real, it's real, right, 840 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: mat you said since the eighteen hundreds, Yes, would they 841 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: have known about blood type in those days? Ha ha, Well, 842 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: this is a really important thing. In many of these studies. 843 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: You're dealing with inbred subjects, subjects that are ridiculously close genetically. 844 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: Um so, then sharing blood for those two subjects wouldn't 845 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: be a big deal. However, if you tried it with 846 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: just some random twenty year old and whoever you are, 847 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: the odds it's not gonna work out so great. We'd 848 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: have to there's there's a purification process. You need the 849 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: plasma right now, just the straight up blood. Also, we 850 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: know the the FDA originally said to two of the 851 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: startups who are selling this kind of this idea, we 852 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: also called longer life through younger blood. Uh. The FDA 853 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: was quick to say they had not found any efficacy 854 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: to these claims. But you can't depending it's all about 855 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: what they say this is doing, because ultimately, if two 856 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: people can sensually decide they're gonna give each other they're 857 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna give each other blood, then there's not a law 858 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: that can really stop them. It's still your blood, which 859 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: is one of the weirdest things I've said on air. 860 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: But but there's ongoing research into this. You know, just 861 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: last year, University of California, Berkeley uh decided this practice 862 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: was decided this practice was led it enough in mice 863 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: that there it's worth finalizing clinical trials for humans. So 864 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be doing this study on this. It's 865 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 1: not quite all the same stuff. They're diluting blood as well. 866 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty interesting. We'll see, we'll see where it goes. 867 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: I do want to point something out here really quickly, 868 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: and there were successful parabiosis studies in mice in gosh, 869 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: I want to say, twenty two five maybe by this 870 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: this couple at u C. Berkeley, and one of the 871 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: main takeaways from their studies was that, yes, the older 872 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: mouse who is sharing that circulatory system with the younger 873 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: mouse does improve in a lot of ways, the health 874 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: of the older mouse gets a lot better, and that 875 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: was kind of paraded around on the news as oh 876 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: my god, this is a thing, this could be a thing. 877 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: We can fix Bolzheimer's and getting old. What the reporting 878 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 1: didn't look at is that the younger mouse in that scenario, 879 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: the health deteriorated very quickly, rapidly and terribly. And that's 880 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: that's in the case where they're so together, not where 881 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: there's just a one way donation route. And you know, 882 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: we're again so many of these things tie into like 883 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: vampirism and pop culture and you know, the some sort 884 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: of malevolent sorcerer sucking the life force out of you know, 885 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: some unsuspecting hero of the story. And what always happened 886 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: in those situations, the person who's having their life force 887 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: sucked out withers away and becomes old and starts to 888 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: like atrophy before your very eyes. You know, it's interesting 889 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: stuff when you see you know, some of these like 890 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: fantasy kind of tropes actually play out in real life experiments. 891 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 1: And there's no at this point, there's no confirmed cases 892 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: of human experimentation ongoing like with modern technology in this field. Uh, 893 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: just to let you know, because I know a lot 894 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: of us might have been thinking about human sent up 895 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: no judgment, but just hasn't to our knowledge, happened currently. 896 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: Did somebody did somebody go matt scientists or serial killer 897 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: and so people together in the past. Yeah, definitely, there 898 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: are billions of people who have lived and died. Someone 899 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: got weird with it, certainly, but in terms of an 900 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: actual medical study doing this at this point, uh, it's 901 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: not happening. There are other things. There are other anti 902 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: aging things that are very real and they're on the horizon. 903 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: Substances like nico tenamide rabbicide, which is the active ingredient 904 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: in a pill made by an outfit called Elysium, and 905 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: then another thing called nicotinamide mon nucleotide. This is also 906 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: an m N They've been shown to improve the ability 907 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: of cells in mice to repair DNA damage caused by 908 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: radiation exposure and wait for old age. So this is 909 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: this is a like a pill you could take, a 910 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: treatment you could apply that could not only help you 911 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: extend the healthy part of your life span, but it 912 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: could also repair damage that had been done to you 913 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: a k a. A new astronaut pill. That's what I'm 914 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,479 Speaker 1: thinking that seems like the immediate application. Oh yeah, for sure, 915 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: that would be great. And there's also I think it's gosh, 916 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: six years ago maybe, but there was a TED talk 917 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: given by this guy named Tony oh lord, what was 918 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: his name, Tony Weiss Kay where he was performing clinical 919 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: studies on humans at with with patients who had mild 920 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: to moderate Alzheimer's disease or effects of of that disease, 921 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: and they were just taking I think it was twenty 922 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: year old donors who are volunteers, taking their blood and 923 00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, doing I guess low level transfused 924 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: with them. Um, you can watch that Ted talk to 925 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: get full info there. It's a good it's a good watch. 926 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: And I just can't we can't talk about parabiosis without 927 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: this image of Monty Burns jumping into my head and 928 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: he's like steepling his fingers and he's going like, yes, 929 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: the blood, that's the last thing those children have or something, 930 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it seems very culture 931 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: clash Boomer v Millennial or gen z. Now, the blood 932 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: the last thing those wretched millennials have stolen through me 933 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: from me by possessing it will work on the script. 934 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: But there you have it, folks. The story of adrenal 935 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: chrome is the story of a real substance given a 936 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: very first a badass and then a very sinister rep 937 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: by various works of fiction and works of conjecture, and 938 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: then those were later mistaken for fat whereas Rudgard Kipling 939 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: would say in his famous poem, if twisted knaves to 940 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: make a trap for fools. But more importantly, that does 941 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: not mean elite anti aging treatments don't exist. That does 942 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: not mean they are not on the way. They very 943 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: much are. Uh. The first person who is functionally immortal 944 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: may have already been born. But it's a question what 945 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: do you think would happen if a pill or some 946 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: ongoing life extending technology or treatment existed. Do you think 947 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the average person would have access to it? Do you 948 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: think they know about it? Well, it's it's the same 949 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: question of this COVID vaccine, you know, and like who 950 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: gets that first? It's all about scarcity. Obviously most people 951 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: would want that, right is it going to be too 952 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: expensive for the average of The COVID vaccine is free, 953 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: but we know there are elites that are getting access 954 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: to it through their secret clinics, and they're you know, 955 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: high end healthcare plans, probably isn't following the rules, right, Yeah, 956 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: who's that guy who faked uh an identity? Who's quite 957 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: well off? You faked any to fly to Canada to 958 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: to take vaccines to try to get vaccinated at a 959 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: place that was primarily catering to elderly and immunocompromised residents 960 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: of the First Nations. Like that's that's the kind of 961 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: stuff that happens. That's an excellent example. No, all, I 962 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: would not be surprised if that's instructive for this. But why, 963 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, why not why not just 964 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: up end the apple cart of society and may and 965 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 1: and pull like a pull like a Louis pasteur uh 966 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: or a Jenner with the smallpox vaccine and just give 967 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: it to everybody before before anyone can put up gates 968 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: or barriers to access. And then see what the world's 969 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: like in two hundred years, We'll we'll all be tired 970 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: of you, That's what I'm saying, Ben. And let's not forget. 971 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, do we even have the resources or the 972 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: infrastructure to support enough people living that many people living forever? 973 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have a support structure it like 974 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: for everyone right now? Yeah, that's it's It's not good, guys. 975 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: We have the potential for that support structure. We just 976 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of people arguing about about whether or 977 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: not we like, there is enough food for everybody right now, 978 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: there's enough water. We just have people arguing about whether 979 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: or not people everybody should have or everybody should have food. 980 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Uh so we're still on some very basic day one questions. 981 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know it or not right now. But 982 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: you're making the most serious cringe face. Okay, that was 983 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: just you cringing. It looked like because I'm I'm thinking 984 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: about all kinds of things, especially like what soil is 985 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: actually going to be able to be used, and you know, 986 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: the phosphates. It's all good, We're fine, everything's cool. Everything's 987 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: what about what about this? What if the deal is 988 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: you can get the life extending treatment. Let's say it's 989 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: not immortality. Let's say it gives you five years. You 990 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: can get the life extending treatment, but you also have 991 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 1: to get sterilized. Oh so like that's the trade off? 992 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Would that be fair? I think a lot of people 993 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: would do that. I think a lot of people would 994 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: have kids first, and then go get stereo atmatically to 995 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: be some loophole. Does that work out? I don't know. No, 996 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: not over time you have to live. It have to 997 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: be shorter than five years for the man. But but 998 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: let's not forget you could still die in an accident. 999 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this wouldn't like, you know, give you a 1000 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: complete like pass against death. You just wouldn't die from 1001 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: natural causes. Still get hit by a bus. You know. 1002 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: It wouldn't make you invisible. I think it comes with 1003 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: a safe point. I mean, at that price point, you're 1004 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: you're you're going to need at least one safe point 1005 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: so you can restore respawn situation. Yeah. That would be 1006 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: in the form of a backup of your personality, of 1007 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: brain map that exists, a brain brain protein map that 1008 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 1: exists in the cloud or on some probably on some database, 1009 01:03:55,160 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and a safe somewhere, uh spaceship in the sky called Elysium. 1010 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't that the name of the company that you were 1011 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: just talking about, Ben Okay, hand of film. I know 1012 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I know about the films. What I'm saying. Uh Yeah, 1013 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: So that's our show, folks, Thanks so much for listening. 1014 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: As always, we can't wait to hear from you. Adrenal chrome, 1015 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: anti aging, anything else, weird literature. Let us know. We 1016 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 1: try to make it easy to find us on the internet, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Uh, 1017 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: shout out to the mods over at our Facebook page. 1018 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. Start a friend of them 1019 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: as the mod squad. Is everybody okay with that? I 1020 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: think that's trademarks somewhere. But yeah, we're getting about the 1021 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy mod squad. There we go. Um, yes, you can 1022 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: find us. We are conspiracy stuff on Twitter and Facebook. 1023 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: On Instagram, we are conspiracy stuff show if you want 1024 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: to check us out, we have individual instagrams. You guys 1025 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: wanna give your info out? Yeah, you can find me 1026 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: at how Now Noel Brown on Instagram and Instagram alone. 1027 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: You can reach out and write to me directly with 1028 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: questions or with suggestions for topics you think your fellow 1029 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: listeners would enjoy them at Ben bull in hsw on 1030 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Twitter and I am in a burst of creativity at 1031 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: Ben Bullen on Instagram. Very clever writing there. But what 1032 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: about you, Matt? Is today one of the days. Uh No, 1033 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm not giving mine out today, but I 1034 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: wanted you guys to have the opportunity. Even though I 1035 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,439 Speaker 1: was going to be curmudgeently about my social stuff. That's 1036 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: very kind matt Um, you know, and who knows how 1037 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: how many people actually listen to to the end part 1038 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 1: of this show. Uh. You can find Matt at Blood 1039 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: of the Young Blood of the Dosparato dot org and 1040 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: on Clubhouse at the same title. Yeah, at that clubhouse, 1041 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: of course, the hottest new place for the modern vampire. Uh. 1042 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: If what if you hate social media? What if that's 1043 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: not quite the blood you want to sip? How else 1044 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: can an enterprising young vampire get in contact with us? 1045 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: You can give us a phone call? Why not? Why 1046 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: not go for it? One three S T D W 1047 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I T K is the number to call to leave 1048 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: us a voicemail message three minutes if you please, and 1049 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: you might end up on one of our weekly listener 1050 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: mail episodes. Just please let us know if it's okay 1051 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: to use your name or what to call you, or 1052 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: if you'd rather we not use your audio, and we 1053 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: will honor those requests. Please do your best to keep 1054 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 1: the messages short, as Noel saying, and try and give 1055 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: us maybe one message instead of giving us a series, 1056 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: because we were a little behind and we want to 1057 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: get through them all. We want to hear from everybody, 1058 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: so thank you. It can help, uh something a few 1059 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 1: of us have done. It can help to make just 1060 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: a couple of bullet points if you want, because it can. 1061 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: As everybody knows, it could be really weird to have 1062 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: to hear a beat and then you feel like you've 1063 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: started a stop watch, which you kind of have. So 1064 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: feel free to take the time beforehand think about think 1065 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 1: about what you want to share with your fellow listeners. 1066 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: That number will always to be here, that's right. And 1067 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 1: if you don't want to do any of that stuff, 1068 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: please please please send us a good old fashioned email. 1069 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: We are conspiracy at iHeart radio dot com. 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