WEBVTT - Covid Vaccine Grifting "Doctors" 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.960 This meeting is being recorded. How you sound, robot. So 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.680 if you don't defend the robot, I'm not. I'm defending 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.520 your very poor imitation of the robot. Well, she would, 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.080 she would, she would kill you if she had the chance. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:22.000 So absolutely Well, this is Behind the Bastards, a podcast 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.560 where we support machine genocide, but by which I mean 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:31.040 genocide of the machines. Machines, although one does cause the other. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:38.720 So strap in watch the Animatrix. I guess I don't 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.120 know where I'm going with here. Garrison's here. This is 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.360 another reverse episode, Garrison, I don't have my ship together, 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.040 take it over. I'm gonna drink up CD. Have fun 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.919 with your fake sugar. Drink um. Oh, it's so much 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.120 more real than real sugar. Howard sugar, I call it 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.040 okay um. Today we're talking thinking about a fun light 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.800 topic that has no implications on public health and trust 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:11.640 in how we view pandemics going forward. We're talking about 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.039 going these days? Is it good? That's good? Funny? Funny? 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.040 You mentioned that um as as we're recording this. The 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.080 delta variant is the is the dominant strain of COVID 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.960 here in the States, and pretty much pretty pretty pretty 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.800 much everywhere else too. Um, it's much much more contagious. UM. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.960 And with with many of the COVID preventative restrictions being 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.839 removed across the country, cases are on a rapid rise 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.839 basically everywhere. Um. It's not like we're there's some places 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.520 that are going to have to put restrictions back in place. Um, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.480 and you know, start making the mascumnates again. UM. Because yeah, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.280 the variant this has about eighty three percent of cases 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.240 in the States that are diagnosed is for the delta 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.080 variant UM. And it does have so called breakthrough infections 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.520 in some vaccinated people to say with asymptomatic or very 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.280 mild cases. UM. I think there's been about five thousand 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.000 deaths of people who are vaccinated who with the with 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.480 with a delta variant. UM. So yeah, let's see. But 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:17.120 but more than of people hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.919 at the moment, so like it's still like it's yeah, 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.120 like you need to get vaccinated, like the most almost 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.520 all people who are going to the hospital for COVID 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:30.280 are are unvaccinated. UM. But the the the brakes for 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.200 infractions for for vaccinated people, combined with the lack of 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.480 masks and an increase in indoor socialization. Also racist possibility 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.360 that vaccinated people can carry and transmit variants to other people, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.000 including you know, other unvaccinated people, which which you know 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.560 includes children and people with immune issues that prevent them 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.520 from getting the vaccine, not not just anti vaxxers. Um. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.600 So all all of that plus school opening back up 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.760 in in person for in August and September. But I 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.680 can't get said Garrison. Yeah, I know, um Marjorie Taylor Green, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.160 which I don't want to talk about because like the 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.840 reason why, the reason why she she's a problem is 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.280 because we talk about her. Um. But she she yesterday 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.000 she had like a very bad interview of her go 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.360 viral and she laughed about she like some ask your 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.720 question about like kids dying and she laughed it off. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.359 And like just earlier that week, a five year old 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:23.160 in her own district died of covid um. Yeah. So yeah, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.360 and it's funny. The funny thing. Funny is the wrong word. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.880 The existentially soul destroying thing, the black pilling thing is that, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.600 like there's so many liberals who pointed that out on 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.920 Twitter as if it matters exactly if that will ever 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.760 matter again, And there's there's there's no gotchas. If anything, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.480 it makes it makes it worse for us the more 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.400 we do that in a lot of ways. Yeah, they're 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.360 all still living in this world where like John Stewart 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:55.440 can own Tucker Carlson on televised debate and it it 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.080 has an impact, and and and and Robert. Look look 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.720 how well that turned out for Tucker Carlson. Yeah, it 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.360 didn't deal with Tucker Carlson. Maybe maybe debating and owning 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.560 people has never solved a single problem in the history 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:14.360 of of the world. Hans Lytton owned Hitler pretty bad 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.480 in a nineteam what was it, thirty one? I think, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.320 uh didn't didn't end up doing the trick. Never does, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.440 never will stop talking to people. Yeah, so at this 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.440 moment right now, we're not doing too great in terms 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.479 of public health and like trust in public health either, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.520 you know, for a lot of reasons, um but but thankfully, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.800 in harsh times like this, we have a select few 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.919 people who who rise to the challenge to to inform 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.720 the public by grifting off a public health crisis to 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.840 pedal snake oil products and further their career by being 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.000 a beacon of disinformation. Today we're talking about covid anti 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.599 vaccine grifters. Um we'll we'll be will be starting off 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.520 with more of like of of a classic like health 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.080 and wellness grifter and then move on to someone who's 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.480 then then then move on to someone who's more dangerous 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.680 but who motives are a little bit a little bit 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.760 less clear. Early on in the pandemic we covered people 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.920 like one of the Paltrow who was like things like that. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.080 We're gonna talking about one person who's doing you know, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.560 some some stuff, some stuff like that got it. So 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.160 the first person we're discussing in the vein of like 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.720 that type of health and wellness kind of grifter is 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.960 named Julie Mazzi of well now, I guess kind of 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:29.800 former um natural pathic doctor who practiced in Napa, California. Garrison, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.560 are you about to tell me this lady got kicked 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.160 out of being a natural path because that's like, to 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.000 go back to the last episode we record, that's like 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.400 getting kicked out of action park for being too drunk. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.400 Um kind of, it's more like it's gonna be hard 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.600 to practice from jail. Okay, No, but nothing, I just 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.320 as long as my opinion of natural Pappy doesn't have 0:05:51.400 --> 0:06:00.640 to change, you know, it doesn't have to change. Doctor 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.799 Doctor Trulie Vezi is at old, according to her website, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.320 is a licensed primary care doctor whose aim and passion 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.560 is to empower her clients to heal. She believes it 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.400 in hold deep perspect for everyone's innate ability to discover 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.960 and find a path for their own well being. The 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:22.039 question has the word empower ever been used in a 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.320 situation in which it was not like fundamentally toxic in 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.440 life threatening? Has anyone used the word empower and not 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.279 been endangering the people they were empowering. Has that happened 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.440 a single time? No, that's that's a good question of it, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.560 And in this case probably probably not. This this one 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.359 she she's on this show, which means she's she she is, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.000 she has made it. If somebody says they want to 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.400 empower you, legally, if it's a stand your ground state, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.400 you can start shooting at them. Legally you can. I 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.160 think I'm fairly certain I'm going to empower you with 0:06:54.200 --> 0:07:00.560 this knowledge, So defend yourself. Doctor Mazzi received a doctorate 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:06.479 in naturopathic medicine from the National University of Natural medicine 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:13.160 in Wait, guess guess what city, Robert. Uh, it's not Mexico, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:21.800 because you said city city, that's what city it's It's 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.120 because if you look up, if you do a fun 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.240 I'm gonna make sure you get the Google right. Um, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:33.480 if you google, I think vaccine hesitancy map. Uh, and 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.360 you can find I believe that's the term you'll need 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.040 to use. Yeah, yeah, you can get vaccine hesitancy map 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.760 of the United States. Uh. Portland, Oregon shines real bright 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.960 on that particular. And the place where she got her 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.800 degree from has like specialized doctors who give like like 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:55.640 vaccine hesitancy plans um. Yeah, and that could vary from 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.920 like people who are like, you should get vaccinate your kids, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.400 but you get a space out there mmrsh goats to 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.200 three separate ones, which is what wakefields. An initial grift 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.000 was yes to obviously the whole all vaccines. You're trying 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.880 to microship murder your baby's Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.560 she got her doctor important organ. I believe she was 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.480 born here um as well um at. At a very 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.560 early age, Dr massif Quo felt the call to be 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:26.000 a healer and teacher. Her spirit of investigation came alive 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.560 when she discovered her strong connection to the plant world. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.480 Fascinated by nutrition and medical and the medical properties of 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.560 food and herbs, she experimented with various diets and searched 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.120 for exotic fruits and vegetables and herbs to discover their 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.520 effects for herself. Throughout her life, she experienced many different 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.880 healing healing foods so that she may honestly refer her patients, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.480 uh that because she knows and understands from her own 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:53.120 experience what these herbs do. So here's the thing for 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.960 a lot of people like myself included in the States. Um, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.080 we the health system. We kind of think the health 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.800 system sucks right, like it does. It's like there's a 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:06.320 lot of elements. I have some specific doctors, I have 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.680 nice things to say about. I have nothing nice to 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.240 say about our medicals. Yeah. Like yeah, like the modern 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.000 modern medicine by and large, especially in the States, it sucks. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.480 It's hard to navigate. I'm not talking about like the 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.640 e er itself or whatever is. Again, as a general rule, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 people who are doing emergency medical work are ran, but 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.680 the system itself that that that organizes and operates. I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.240 have very little positive to say about it specifically, Like 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.520 you know, we'll be talking about a lot about like 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.400 pharmaceuticals this episode. You know, people are prescribed a lot 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.080 of things that don't necessarily help them and end up 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.760 hurting them. Um. So like and I kind of get 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.600 the drive to search for more like historical and like natural, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.040 like natural because plants rock. Plants like plants. Women. Dude 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.040 who keeps pounds of planting yarrow comfree um and a 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.400 bunch of other like dried plants, Like I grows some 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.760 of that ship. I make my own stabs and tinctures 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.080 and whatnot. Like yeah, like many some of it does 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.560 stuff and you can generally find like stuf these. Again, 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.560 one of the things, like Dr Kava, who's a friend 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.000 of both of ours, point is like there's no such 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.600 thing as alternative medicine. If it's a plant based medicine 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.800 that does something, it's just medicine. Like you can look 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.400 up medical benefits of like um comfort your yarrow for 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.040 wound treatment or whatever, and like there's studies on it. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.520 It's not anyway I've got on this ramp before. Yeah, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.960 but like like that's not what we're talking about with 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.480 Dr Mazzi here. Uh, this is this is different because 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.760 you know, as we'll see, she's someone who is like 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.160 knowingly an actively you know, charging people for false cures 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.880 and doing active harm as people's lives in danger so 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.040 that she can make a buck. UM. There's some other 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.640 interesting info from her site. UM quote Drum comes from 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:44.520 a family of notable, notable educators. Her her grandfather, Stephen E. Elper, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.960 founded both Portland State University and uh Olon College. So 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.160 like PPSC was actually is like a is a pretty 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.040 pretty big, pretty big deal in Portland. UM. It's one 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.120 of the one of the biggest universities in the state UM, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.360 which is like an actual regular university. UM. Her grandmother 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.719 was a high school teacher for many years, and her 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.800 mother taught kindergarten for forty years, and her father was 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.160 a college professor. So she comes from like a family 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.959 of like of of doctors and educators. UM that they're 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.280 real proud. I mean, so does Wakefield though his parents 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.720 are both like very well regarded doctors or so. Dr 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.320 Masi claims that she shares her family's passion to educate 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.160 coach when someone has knowledge and understanding of their health 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.760 problem and the array of hall of of holistic and 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.360 non toxic therapies that are available to them. That patient 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.040 is now at the helm of their own healing um 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.760 and and there she she actually, you know, the sex 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.800 part has has some more sinister implications for how she 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.400 was able to market herself um and her business was 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.880 with such effective propaganda UM because before embarking on her 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.800 naturopathic studies, Dr Masi orned in undergraduate's degree and master's 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.760 degree in Communication studies UM. So like she knows how 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.640 to do marketing, like she got a master's degree um 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.880 at at at Portland State UM University. So she she 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.440 knows how to how to how to how to market 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:11.360 people and sell herself UM quote from her website. Her 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.280 skills and training interpersonal communication define her signature approach, which 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.240 is to use the power of compassionate inquiry to guide 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.920 each patient to value their own understanding and help discover 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.320 what their best choices are for healing. So she she 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.719 basically mar market markets herself as like an alternative to 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.760 general to to like a general care provider that will 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.240 help you treat everything from arthritis, allergies, infections all the 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.880 way to like autoimmune disorders a d h D and cancer. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.240 This is all the things she advertises on her website 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.520 that her like naturopathic remedies can help can help you know, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.880 treat um and naturally. The past few months she's been 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:53.040 offering so called treatment and immunization for COVID nineteen UM. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:58.360 Part of how dr Amzi makes money is through homeopathic medications. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.640 The fancy name is homeo pro facsialists immunization. I probably 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:10.360 said that perfect prophylaxis immunization, homeo homeo prophylaxis. Yeah, because 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.800 like a prophylaxis, like a condoms of prophylaxis. It's a 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.720 preventative treatment of some sorts. Yeah, this is a preventive 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.640 treatment done with homeo homeopathic. It's nonsense. It's drinking water 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.920 to cure your coaches. It's it's it's drinking water. Yeah. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.319 So like the modern the modern origins come from eighteenth 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.360 century Germany. Homeopathy is by and large a debunked pseudoscience 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:34.040 that claims no highly deluded substances um, including including effectants themselves, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.719 can cure diseases, and that the most ard on a 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.600 homeopathy that it includes two important facts, one of which 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.400 is that most homeopathic medicines have no measurable amount of 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.280 the medicine they're supposed to have, and at the one 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.719 time they did it killed a bunch of babies, killed 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.320 a bunch of babies or some ship. Yeah yeah it was. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:56.440 It was deadly deadly night shade, deadly night shade from Highlands, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.760 all natural baby killing pills. Yeah so yeah so. But 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.360 like you know, they believe the more substances deluded, the 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.360 stronger the disease curing power is. You know, so most 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.520 of these treatments are so deluted the base substances cannot 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.080 even be detected, which isn't you know a problem for 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.839 homeopaths since they actually claim that when even if you 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.280 can't detect it, um, the water molecules that you're consuming 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.760 can actually remember what the base the base substance is 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.000 that they've encountered and act the same in your body. Um. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.680 You know. The treatments are you know, usually just placebos 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.520 or or harmless because they're nothing. But you know, if 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.000 they're improperly deluded, they could be deadly. In the case 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:36.320 of the homeopathic teething products which contained deadly nightshade, which 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.360 killed like ten ten babies and caused like hundreds and 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:45.040 hundreds of serious serious um illnesses. So yeah, so in 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.800 in in Dr Momsey's case, she would sell immunization pellets 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.960 that allegedly contained tiny amounts of various diseases that the 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.880 body could then naturally built up an immunity to. So like, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.040 it's the same thing with all these like grifts. It's 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.280 like you're just inventing a bad version of vaccines or like, yeah, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.680 if you give it a little bit of the thing, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.760 then your body can learn how to fight it. But 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.040 it's like, but it's the bullshit version that it's just 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:11.400 completely nonsense. Um. And she provides many of these homeopathic 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.040 immunizations to children, which she then also falsey claims satisfy 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.680 the vaccine requirements for California schools. So she gives out 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.880 her patients like false papers saying that they've been immunized 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:23.920 for these things by giving them these pellets so that 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.760 they can still attend schools even if they're not vaccinated. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.880 So that's kind of the specific gripp that she was 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:33.120 doing before covid UM. And then when covid started, she 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.160 you know and specifically like when the vaccine stuff started 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.440 gaining popularity, um, she switched to a lot of a 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.640 lot of focus on COVID and these COVID pellets. So 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.600 it's unclear how long she's been selling these COVID immunization pellets, 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.600 but it seems like they really started to take off 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.400 around January when the vaccines were starting to get released 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.680 to the general public, as she was offering these as 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:02.360 a naturopathic alternative. It's a good thing. I mean, well, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.360 we need to do an episode one of these days 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.280 on like the actual because there's a whole the reason 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.080 that this is. I mean, it sounds like she did 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.760 get in trouble, but the reason why most people do 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.720 versions of this don't and the reason why she got 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:12.920 away with it for as long is there is a 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.360 whole legal framework set up to allow people to do this, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.800 and it's heavily embedded, particularly with the Utah Republican Party. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.840 UM Like it's a big it's it's all centered around Utah, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.960 as is the team treatment industry for a lot of 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.080 a number of reasons. But it's like it's the same 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.920 reason why um UM, that company we covered that does 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.760 essential oils and stuff, was able to get away with 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.240 so much bullshit, Like there's this whole legal infrastructure set 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:44.000 up to allow people to sell folks medicine that isn't medicine. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.040 Uh and then protect them from liability when those people die. UH. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:53.320 And it's hugely embedded and specifically the Republican Party. UM. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.920 And there are a Democratic Party. Uh, it doesn't do 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.560 anything about it because the Democratic Party, why would they 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.400 do anything at anything? In any way here we are, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:08.080 it's been brewing for decades and in UH in April, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.919 someone whose family members had gotten these COVID immunization pellets 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.480 from from Dr Mazzie tipped off the Department of Health 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.200 and Human Services Office for the for the Inspector General 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.000 to what was happening. And and this this prompted a 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:26.840 federal and state investigation into the Dr Massey's operations. UM. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.480 This is now quoting a recent DJ report quote. Mazzi 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.800 used the covidteen pandemic to expand the pre existing immunization 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.199 scheme by selling immunization pellets that she fraudulently claimed in 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:41.760 written documents and in consensually monitored recordings would provide lifelong 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.719 immunity to COVID nineteen. Mazie explained that the pellets contained 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.720 quote a very minute amount of this COVID disease unquote 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.639 that can result in quote infectious symptoms with COVID nineteen 0:17:54.040 --> 0:18:00.639 or automatically flag the immune system's attention inducing immunity. So 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.960 she's selling. The fun thing about this is she's telling 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.560 people don't get the vaccine, it's dangerous, and then saying 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.720 and then pretending her nonsense medicine works the way of 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:17.040 vaccine actually works exactly. That's exactly incredible quote to encourage 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.720 to encourage customers to purchase the pellets, as the allegedly 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.000 exploited disinformation and fear of by falsely claiming the FDA 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:28.040 authorized COVID vaccines contained quote toxic ingredients. Um mass. He 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.639 further say that to her customers, if you could provide 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.320 these pelts to children for covidentine immunization, and that quote 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:39.600 the dose is actually the same for babies, so that's nice. Um. Yeah. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.159 As a general rule, if someone says the dose is 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.840 the same for babies, that should be a red flag. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.080 It never is. Yeah, no, it should have. It shouldn't 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:52.000 be that they're very small. Yeah. I mean like if 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.119 my coke dealer was like and could given it to 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.879 your baby the dose is the same, I would not 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.360 find a different coke dealer because it's hard. I mean, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:04.560 my god, um but I would probably not hang out 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:10.359 with him as much anyway, Sophie, trying to keep you employed. Well, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.160 there's no law against cocaine. It is decriminalized where you live. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:21.800 Thank you, Grison. It's fine that um in in a. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.240 In a recorded phone call, uh Mozzi instructed a fake 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.720 client to quote pour roughly two to four pellets from 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.600 the cap and dump them under your tongue. You do 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.200 not have to drive yourself and say you're trying to 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.760 pour exactly at four pellets exactly re pelts. It doesn't 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.159 really matter. I mean, it's like, I mean, it's like 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:45.000 the real medicine, the doses whatever. That is my favorite 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.720 thing about the way California used to work is you 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.879 would get a prescription for pot and it would just 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.720 be a prescription for as much marijuana as you could carry. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.480 So like, whatever your problem was, if pot was prescribed, 0:19:55.560 --> 0:20:00.880 the dose was whatever. She said. She said, I mean, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.000 it's like an energy medicine. So more pellets doesn't mean 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:10.400 stronger necessarily. Okay, that makes sense, perfect sets yea. When 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.199 asked what was in the pellets, Massey replied this, is 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.120 from the COVID nineteen. It's made from this disease particles 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.919 themselves getting her COVID. I do not know what the 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:25.600 exact processes that this COVID n As long as they 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.680 could extract the germs from the virus, they could make 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.040 the remedy. With this method, we're tapping into what's known 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.320 as the innate immune system. That's like a higher intelligence 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.320 part of the immune system. I have got no idea 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.800 where she's getting these pellets. No one the FEDS don't 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.960 clarify where she's getting these. We have but the perfect 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.240 way to frame it, because all these idiots already believe 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.600 in like the you're only used ten percent if you're 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.880 bringing you your innate intelligence, your instincts no more than 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.920 like you know, book learning can never like. So, yeah, 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.320 I get why this works. So do you know who 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:03.479 doesn't sell COVID nineteen pellets? Uh? I mean we ought to. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.880 We could, We could, we could. She made a lot 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.560 of money. We could too, Sophie, we're getting into the 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.920 COVID nineteen pellet business. We are not. Yeah, we're selling pellets. 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.400 Go back to talking about your cocaine dealer. I liked 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.080 that better. May less money, I will send you pellets 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.879 and I will use it to buy cocaine. There we go. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.800 All right, we're back. We are, we are indeed back, 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:42.240 and I'm online trying to order disease particle pellets. See 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.280 see how much I can sell them for in the street. 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:49.440 It's it's a pellets. Hey kid, Hey kid, want some 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.480 want some COVID pellets. I don't know the exact process 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.359 for it, but as long as they extract the terms, 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.720 it works. But the virus and them eat it, eat 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.720 it all. I think, as many as you want life 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.480 immunity and might make you sick, But that's fine. That 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:12.200 just means it's working. Back to the ta shape report 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:17.879 of quote. Mazzi also provided CDC COVID nineteen vaccination record 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.720 cards to her customers with instructions on how to fraudulently 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.080 complete the cards to false to falsely make it appear 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.320 as if a customer had received two doses of the 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.199 Maderna vaccine. As a part of her scheme, Mons provided 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:32.199 customers with specific NAPA California Maderna vaccine lot numbers to 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.800 enter onto the cards of instructions on how to select 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.000 the proparted dates on which they had received the Maderna 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:41.480 vaccines to evade suspicion. UM. The CDC confirmed to federal 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:47.000 investigators that that actual Maderna lot numbers were used. UM. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.320 But the CDC in the California Health Department have no 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.280 don't know how Mazzy got them because like she's not 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.120 authorized to distribute or give out vaccines. It's like they 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.280 don't know where she got these numbers from. I mean, 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.919 she probably knows someone who told her or something, but 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.359 like it's it's kind of unclear what exactly happened for 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:08.600 how she got these cards and how she got these numbers. UM. Yeah, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.520 so the original tipster who who tipped off the feds 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.960 um got a dose of these pellets over the phone 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.080 from Mazzi for for like a single dose of them. 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.520