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Speaker 1: If you ask me in nineteen ninety six, when I
Speaker 1: started my career, would I'll be sitting here interviewing anybody,
Speaker 1: let alone interviewing a person who runs my city. Literally, Uh,
Speaker 1: who's the mayor of our city? Who looks like us,
Speaker 1: dresses like us, acts like us. It's like, he's what
Speaker 1: is it? We got to call him the food board mayas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Dopacality called him the night
Speaker 1: life mayor. And it's crazy because I met him at night.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, legalized bud. From what I know from
Speaker 1: my city, I got arrested so many times.
Speaker 2: I stopped.
Speaker 1: I stopped smoking, but outside I was And now you
Speaker 1: go to the But this man is great. He's great
Speaker 1: for us. I wanted to salute him. We want to
Speaker 1: give him his flowers. We got mister Eric Adams, the
Speaker 1: motherfucker mayor of New York. The old time I saw
Speaker 1: your Reps club interview. We're not going to go that
Speaker 1: politically like that. We're gonna ask you.
Speaker 2: Some question that was crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy mo, you you was trapped.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about your music history.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but but go back for a moment. We
Speaker 4: need to really, like lad some groundwork.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: People see the interview say, you know you were set up.
Speaker 4: I could never be set up because I'm authentic and
Speaker 4: I'm good in any setting, you know, because I'm true.
Speaker 5: I'm not new to this. I'm true to this, and
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: We need to really connect where I am and the
Speaker 4: role that cats like you played. You know, Uh, this
Speaker 4: is fifty years of hip hop fifty years and you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, people say I'm the hip hop mayor,
Speaker 4: hip hop mayor. I grew up listening to hip hop
Speaker 4: and it inspired me throughout you know, it inspired me
Speaker 4: when I was going through some hard times, I was
Speaker 4: able to throw on hip hop. And I think brothers
Speaker 4: who were part of that that music genre should not
Speaker 4: allow themselves to be relegated to saying that you were
Speaker 4: just the music folks. Now, if you're do an analysis
Speaker 4: of where we are right now in the country, the
Speaker 4: first African American to be the leader of a party
Speaker 4: in Congress is how King Jeffries hip hop Jersey and
Speaker 4: no he's in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Hip hop.
Speaker 4: Tisia James, the most important attorney general in the country,
Speaker 4: grew up in hip hop. Jamoni Williams hip hop, Eric
Speaker 4: Adams hip hop, Adrian Adams, the leader of the Speaker
Speaker 4: hip hop. Four of the black mayors that's running the
Speaker 4: major cities in America Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, New York
Speaker 4: all hip hop.
Speaker 2: And that's where the migrants are coming to.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly we're gon. We're gonna dig into that. But
Speaker 4: what I want to show is that we all grew
Speaker 4: up and the seas were planted in hip hop. So
Speaker 4: the fruits of our harvest right now, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: the am the most important mayor on the globe, on
Speaker 4: the glow, and so you guys should be celebrating. You know,
Speaker 4: this is who we made. This is all of this
Speaker 4: leadership you see right now. It is what you guys,
Speaker 4: what you guys made. I keep telling folks, when we
Speaker 4: celebrated the fifty years of hip hop, it was coming
Speaker 4: together of all of that power, finally getting together. But
Speaker 4: now the question is with all of this chocolate, what
Speaker 4: are we gonna do with it? We gotta do something
Speaker 4: with it. We gotta make some real changes because people
Speaker 4: have been playing us. Black folks have been played for years.
Speaker 4: We got to be willing to use this power correctly.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I lived in New York City my whole life, born
Speaker 1: and raised right, and you know, there has been mayors
Speaker 1: that come around as a couple of mayors. I believe
Speaker 1: David Dinkins visited my neighborhood. But like it was so
Speaker 1: dope to say, yo, you know, I'm at the mayor
Speaker 1: and like I better at nas party. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, like me and the man that fucking nos party,
Speaker 1: Like like like how do you how do you balance
Speaker 1: that like by being like maya but still like you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because that was joke
Speaker 1: that I speak to you and at my friend's party,
Speaker 1: So like how you balance that?
Speaker 4: And nowas nas was doing some great things and it
Speaker 4: is it is a balance because I don't fit the mold,
Speaker 4: and I didn't go into fit the mod I went
Speaker 4: in to break the mall. And you know when you
Speaker 4: when you do an analysis, you know, I'm perfectly imperfect. Brother,
Speaker 4: you know, growing up perceulture maker queens. I know you
Speaker 4: left up for selftual maker Queens, running numbers, you know,
Speaker 4: buying a nickel bag, making a joints so mommy could
Speaker 4: put some food on the table.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I used to walk in the classroom. They used to
Speaker 4: have in the back of the chair, the dumb student.
Speaker 4: People used to mock me. I used to wake up
Speaker 4: every morning and pray, God, don't let me read, you know,
Speaker 4: because people would mimic me throughout the day and say,
Speaker 4: let's act like we eric reading.
Speaker 5: And I didn't get it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't until I stumbled into college that I learned that
Speaker 4: I was dyslexic. Wasn't that I was dumb. I was dyslexing.
Speaker 4: And you're dislected right. I'm a virgo too. You virgo right,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so it's it's that
Speaker 4: when I'm in these settings, and it's so important because
Speaker 4: you know, my brother and I we got arrested at
Speaker 4: fifteen one on third precint I need cats that are
Speaker 4: in class right now and don't believe they can learn.
Speaker 4: Say wait a minute, my mail went through this. I
Speaker 4: need cats that are on Rikers right now. I've been
Speaker 4: on Rikers more than any man history of the city.
Speaker 4: I got baptized rebaptized on Rykers a couple of weeks
Speaker 4: ago with a group of inmates because I wanted them
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 2: Listen, man, y'all need to know. I'm you.
Speaker 4: I've been here with you, and we take in funnel like,
Speaker 4: look what you're doing and what you brothers are doing.
Speaker 4: You've taken your street skills, because that's that's education.
Speaker 5: That's academics too.
Speaker 4: People think academics is just because you're in college. No,
Speaker 4: academics is. I knew the economics by taking a nickel
Speaker 4: bag and making a choice. Man, that's economic A lot?
Speaker 4: What kind of nickel bags when you have.
Speaker 2: Earlier? I was like, wait, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 7: A lot.
Speaker 8: But I don't we might do them block They were joints.
Speaker 8: It was just a joint and so it was like
Speaker 8: you will be blown away what we learned.
Speaker 4: And that is transferable, you know when you look at
Speaker 4: what fat Cat Nichols and those other cats were doing.
Speaker 4: Those those are great economists. But you can transfer it
Speaker 4: into the empowered that you want.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of hustlers can make great managers
Speaker 1: in the music business. Definitely, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because of the gift of gas. But hold on, So
Speaker 1: this is what I want to ask you. Right, I
Speaker 1: go worldwide, right, and if a person is from New
Speaker 1: York and they asked me where am I from, I
Speaker 1: immediately say Queens. If a person is not from from
Speaker 1: New York and they asked me where I'm from, I
Speaker 1: automatically say New York.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So I want to play game with you. What do
Speaker 1: you think you're more Queens? Because I've read that you're
Speaker 1: born in Brooklyn, but then you was raised in Grays right, right,
Speaker 1: So what do you what do you claim more Queens
Speaker 1: or New York Brooklyn? Brooklyn? Okay, now we're gonna battle, right,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna name people, So you're gonna name people
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn that's famous in Congress whatever, whatever, what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna name people from Queen You go to name people
Speaker 1: from the Bronx.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're gonna play. This is myself. You
Speaker 2: got a best co host. You just go to New York. Shit. Now,
Speaker 2: I was I was throwing off. I thought he was
Speaker 2: big New York. I thought he was gonna bick with media,
Speaker 2: Miami with media.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna run the time that Okay, how much
Speaker 1: time do you think we should have?
Speaker 2: You want to tire yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I means be Jumanji this mother. So yeah, three
Speaker 1: minutes like a boxing fight, person, No, No, three minutes?
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 1: Okay, just a bron right, just Brooklyn, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do me some some ucking clubs. So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm outside, I'm to drink,
Speaker 1: gonna drink.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun today. Okay, there's whe's the
Speaker 1: chalkboard at Okay, So I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna start it off. When you start, I start the timer.
Speaker 1: Okay, remember people from the Bronx, people from Brooklyn, Yes,
Speaker 1: people from Queens. I feel like I got it easy
Speaker 1: and anybody, you can.
Speaker 2: Help me out. If I forget, you can help anybody.
Speaker 2: Gotta throw the ship out.
Speaker 1: There's okay, yo, we got mister Lee Wright in Schools
Speaker 1: of New York Stree. We're gonna show you how the
Speaker 1: scooses of the New York City is. Right now, everybody
Speaker 1: give it.
Speaker 2: To give it to the girl. Give me. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not convince him write it. He don't speak right. You're ready?
Speaker 2: You ready, you guys, let me see if we need
Speaker 2: to see the board. Yeah, yeah, okay, this would be interesting.
Speaker 2: You a guest. We won't let you go first. Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Name somebody famous, jay Z jay Z. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Mail Melly mail fifty. We're notard King Fad Joe.
Speaker 2: Tony yea yea. Lets my folks from uh oh, come on,
Speaker 2: biggy than okay, cast one.
Speaker 1: Marb duh, Mop yes, Mop, I got.
Speaker 2: Cool her court Mega give me another word?
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, okay, the basket's pool remmy okay, uh.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, nobody want to claim.
Speaker 5: Dude, I'm asked to say, Bill Clayton, isn't he from Brooklyn?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, yes, Big Daddy, Big Teddy k.
Speaker 1: More babies made of his music k Flex, he said,
Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson.
Speaker 5: Steph Steph, Steph Marberry.
Speaker 2: Jaylo who Jaylo j Lo? They went Russell Simmons.
Speaker 4: From Mike Tyson, Big Mike, Mike Tyson, Mike.
Speaker 2: Cardi B. Run dmn C Cardi B, he said, Cardi B.
Speaker 5: Then run d m C.
Speaker 2: Come on, d J, d J show that. I take that.
Speaker 7: That's ahead, ran master cast, Yeah, Nicki Minaj, what's my
Speaker 7: little Kim?
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds on the clock from Peter Guns and she's saying.
Speaker 4: Uh yes, right right and and master C.
Speaker 2: It's from the Bronx. Molly ball. See we're going we're
Speaker 2: gonna perfect this game the first time.
Speaker 4: Yes, the first time, you said, Molly wan Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's time.
Speaker 2: Ye counted.
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty close. I think it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Count how many names? But why the calendar for all? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? East one? Yeah, come and see I told you
Speaker 2: he ain't go.
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I told you to get
Speaker 1: the boy. This is the reason why you one this.
Speaker 1: This young guys in my car, You'll took it uptown.
Speaker 2: For no reason. So oh damn, you.
Speaker 1: Ain't see me in a minute, James, Jesus, this is
Speaker 1: the time having early drinks. A number bounce around with
Speaker 1: with subjects and subjects let it flow. I remember I
Speaker 1: went to New Orleans. I had the number one records
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight especially in my life, went to New
Speaker 1: traveled around the world, went to New Orleans. Member juvenile
Speaker 1: and then because they you know, that's what people. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't checking in and none of that ship. So
Speaker 1: I went to see him for the risk, calls him
Speaker 1: four ratters came out. I said, holy shit. I made
Speaker 1: fun of New Orleans all day for years years. I
Speaker 1: was like, motherfucker. Look at the best food, but ships, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And then recently Juvenile called me. I was like, do
Speaker 1: you see what's going on with your city?
Speaker 2: I had no defense.
Speaker 1: What do I do to defend myself against juvenile because
Speaker 1: because they're trying to tell me that the city is
Speaker 1: full with rhodents godamn countries.
Speaker 2: No, no, but that's.
Speaker 1: Different now, the rand the pizza slides.
Speaker 2: I want to do.
Speaker 4: You know when we were and the number one thing
Speaker 4: is when we came in. You're right, the rat complaints
Speaker 4: was through the roof. And you know what, nothing could
Speaker 4: traumatize your day more than than the rat.
Speaker 1: Normal is not scared like this, and they don't move
Speaker 1: you what.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 4: But but what we what we what we did? What
Speaker 4: we did, We zeroed in on it. We hired when
Speaker 4: New Orleans didn't do, we hired the rats are right,
Speaker 4: And what we found the number one reason that there's
Speaker 4: so many were so many rollers on the bags there
Speaker 4: you go, plastic bags, you know, and they the previous
Speaker 4: man came up with these mint plastic bags that were
Speaker 4: supposed to scare rats. Those rats are like, are you
Speaker 4: kidding me?
Speaker 2: Little cats?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: And so we we zeroed in on it, and now
Speaker 4: rats complaint across the city.
Speaker 5: They have gone down.
Speaker 4: And then what we call rat mitigation zones was like
Speaker 4: a high level.
Speaker 5: They've also going have gone down.
Speaker 4: We're going to move to take all our trash off
Speaker 4: the streets, out of plastic bags, and we're going to containerize.
Speaker 4: Everybody's told us it was going to take five years.
Speaker 4: Said no, that's too long. We're going to do it
Speaker 4: in two and a half years. We're going to containerize
Speaker 4: all our garbage. It's going to be everything is going
Speaker 4: to go into containers. So you're gonna be able to
Speaker 4: call him back and tell him how we like me now.
Speaker 2: Because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like to say, even though I don't live in
Speaker 1: New York City, now that's still my city. I can
Speaker 1: never like anywhere I go. As soon as I talk,
Speaker 1: they say, ah, you're from New York because this is
Speaker 1: so and we're moving.
Speaker 2: Man, we're not.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not surviving, We're thriving. You know a
Speaker 4: number occasions when we came into the city, no one
Speaker 4: wanted to be on the subway system. Uh, we were
Speaker 4: dealing with, you know, some real issues economically coming out
Speaker 4: of COVID. Remember when I came, Man, we were stealing COVID.
Speaker 4: You know, the just a slew of problems. All that
Speaker 4: has turned around. Now people are hating, don't want to
Speaker 4: show what it is because there's a feeling that, you know,
Speaker 4: black and brown mayors can't manage.
Speaker 5: But we managed the hell out of the city.
Speaker 4: There's independent reviewers who look at the city and determine,
Speaker 4: are we going to raise your bond rating based on
Speaker 4: your ability to manage it?
Speaker 5: They raised my bond raided.
Speaker 4: They say, this cat has taken one hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: thousand micros asylum seekers.
Speaker 2: You know that, you know, we got to talk about, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and folks because I see it here.
Speaker 4: I was as I was moving, I'm seeing you know,
Speaker 4: some some indicators here and folks, you know, you know
Speaker 4: black folks.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: They're like, you know what you're doing, man, you're giving
Speaker 5: away the whole city.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Mayas can't stop buses from coming in the city, right,
Speaker 4: Mayors can't say that you're in the city, So I
Speaker 4: can't give you three meals a day, a place to sleep.
Speaker 4: That's against law. It's against the law for me to
Speaker 4: even allow them to work. I can't even allow them
Speaker 4: to roak. And that's all they saying they want to do.
Speaker 4: They say, listen, we want to work, man, we don't
Speaker 4: want anything.
Speaker 1: Free from you, because it doesn't that push them to criminality,
Speaker 1: like because just think about it, Like if you can't work,
Speaker 1: but you're getting get in the house. I have never
Speaker 1: seen that before, Like it's been since COVID. Like I
Speaker 1: remember driving by Elmhurst Hospital during COVID and I remember
Speaker 1: looking at like it was World War three because it
Speaker 1: was like every nationality that's the one thing about Queens.
Speaker 1: But you can't kind of be racist in living Queens
Speaker 1: because every nationality is this it's a Haitian person is
Speaker 1: your neighbors. And I remember driving by Elmhurst Hospital. I
Speaker 1: remember witnessing that. But do you think that the migrate
Speaker 1: great problem and the rat problem is probably the coinsigned?
Speaker 5: No, No, that's that's a great question.
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm saying that is because when I
Speaker 4: came into office, we should have encampments all over the place.
Speaker 4: We had ten cities people living in cardboard boxes. And
Speaker 4: when I went in bound January and February, I went
Speaker 4: into the streets as soon as I got into office,
Speaker 4: and I went into those encampments and I spoke to
Speaker 4: the people.
Speaker 5: You saw a schizophrenic.
Speaker 4: Bipolar People were stale food, human waste, drug paraphernalia.
Speaker 5: So I told the team, yo, we're not living it
Speaker 5: like this.
Speaker 4: And we were able to remove all those encampments off
Speaker 4: our streets and get people to care. You know, about
Speaker 4: seven thousand people we cycled into our system.
Speaker 5: People is living on the subway system.
Speaker 4: You know, you still see remnants of that, But there's
Speaker 4: a difference when you go google these other cities and
Speaker 4: you see San Francisco.
Speaker 2: California, right right. I heard you said you went and
Speaker 2: visited the people exactly exactly or something like that.
Speaker 4: Right, we went and saw what was happening in La
Speaker 4: We saw what was happening in many of the other cities,
Speaker 4: and I said, we can't because the visual, like you said,
Speaker 4: your visual is that people gonna believe your city these
Speaker 4: out of control.
Speaker 3: So I want to just first of all, I just
Speaker 3: want you to state, you know, because I listened to
Speaker 3: the Reference Club interview and you were talking about why
Speaker 3: the migrants were here, you know, because I know I've
Speaker 3: been saying this for a lot a long time about
Speaker 3: you know, the different governors shipping them over here intentionally.
Speaker 2: Because it's political.
Speaker 3: So I want you to state that for this yow
Speaker 3: because it's a different audience. And I want you to,
Speaker 3: you know, to reiterate those things rights, right, and and
Speaker 3: and first of all, this is what's with Steve.
Speaker 4: They focused on for the most part, for cities Chicago, Chicago,
Speaker 4: New York, Houston, Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: What are those four cities? Those are four cities with.
Speaker 4: Black mayors, all Democrats, all Democrats, And so what happened
Speaker 4: they came across the border.
Speaker 5: It started with Governor Abbot.
Speaker 4: Governor Abbot started busting them to these four cities, destabilized
Speaker 4: these cities. And then when you think about it, was
Speaker 4: a wicked plan that he did because what you did
Speaker 4: you targeted the four largest cities when you had these
Speaker 4: black mayors. So number one, stabilize those cities. It's going
Speaker 4: to be votes. But number two, you set the signal
Speaker 4: out to tell people to think that, hey, these black
Speaker 4: mans don't know how to govern. And so I'm only
Speaker 4: the second black mayor in New York City's history first right,
Speaker 4: right right, and my sister, Mayor Bass was the first
Speaker 4: African American women mayor in.
Speaker 5: Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: So when you do that, you enrolled, and then you
Speaker 4: turn your base against you because you know, if folks
Speaker 4: are hungry. They said, wait a minute, why are you
Speaker 4: giving everything to these migrants, when in fact you're not.
Speaker 4: But they send that court out. So now you got
Speaker 4: your base. Because this is what they did with David Thinkers.
Speaker 4: They want to deepest destabilize your base. Because when I
Speaker 4: won for mayor, there's something called this, they like to say,
Speaker 4: the New York Times leadership, Upper West Side, Brooklyn Heights,
Speaker 4: cobble Hill Park, Slow No mayor has ever won without winning.
Speaker 5: Those areas, those parts of the city.
Speaker 2: I did. I lost all of that.
Speaker 4: You know, I won from straight folks from the community
Speaker 4: that said, listen, man, this guy is one of us, man,
Speaker 4: and this guy is.
Speaker 1: One of the Let me cut you off for one second,
Speaker 1: because let me the difference is, like, you know, all
Speaker 1: of us come from you know, the inner cities, right,
Speaker 1: the hood, right, and all of us are probably on welfare.
Speaker 2: If he was or he wasn't.
Speaker 1: What is the difference between us being on welfare and
Speaker 1: then these migrants that's coming there and and you're actually
Speaker 1: giving them because I heard you you're doing like.
Speaker 5: A yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So so migrants in asylum seeks are not allowed to get.
Speaker 1: I just aboutside. You know, my name is Victor, a
Speaker 1: little bit more than me.
Speaker 4: So the food stamps wick a snap, all of those
Speaker 4: benefits migrasin the sound seekers are not eligible for. So
Speaker 4: the law requires me to feed them three meals a day.
Speaker 4: Requires what we were doing is buying the food from
Speaker 4: these large conglomerates and.
Speaker 2: Told you they didn't want, right, and ten percent of.
Speaker 4: The food they were not eating wasting, being discarded. So
Speaker 4: my first deputy mayor and her team, they came up
Speaker 4: with this card called a Muchafi card, black owned company,
Speaker 4: where you give them a card where they are given
Speaker 4: thirteen dollars a day to eat and they go to
Speaker 4: the local bodegas, the supermarkets.
Speaker 2: Put the money back in there.
Speaker 4: You put the money back into the into the community
Speaker 4: buying what you want. You can't buy anything other than
Speaker 4: food and baby supplies. So we saved six hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars a month, seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: But people wanted to blow.
Speaker 4: It up and say, hey, you're giving them a credit card.
Speaker 5: They knew that wasn't what. That was all bullshit, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's how the management skills, that the team, what
Speaker 4: we have been doing, and so what the governor did.
Speaker 5: He wanted to destabilize our city.
Speaker 4: But we managed it better than anyone can even thought
Speaker 4: we was gonna manage one hundred and eighty thousand people
Speaker 4: showing up at your doorstep, can't work, can't provide for themselves.
Speaker 4: Thirty thousand children had to put in our educational system
Speaker 4: doing it without a problem. That one child of family
Speaker 4: sleeping on which the governor governed. The governor of Texas,
Speaker 4: Governor Abvid you know.
Speaker 1: That's a syent them there, right, would you say it's
Speaker 1: it's it's racially motivated versus partisan motivated.
Speaker 4: Great question, Great. I think it's a combination. It's a combination.
Speaker 4: I think that he wanted to send his signal to
Speaker 4: the national government because they need to fix the problem.
Speaker 5: Let me be clear on that they need to fix
Speaker 5: the problem.
Speaker 4: But there was a hell of a lot of other
Speaker 4: cities he could.
Speaker 2: Have sent them to.
Speaker 4: While you're picking cities, they didn't even send them to
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, right, They didn't even send them to Los
Speaker 4: Angeles until Mayor Bass became mayor. They didn't even send
Speaker 4: them to Philadelphia until the sister became the mayor. The
Speaker 4: day she swore in, a plane landed with MICA's Asilum Seekerts.
Speaker 4: So he wanted to send a message, But the message
Speaker 4: you wanted to send was on the back of black
Speaker 4: and brown mayors.
Speaker 3: That's heavy. And I've been saying that from the beginning.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been saying that this is politics, and
Speaker 3: they supposed to do that. You know, they want certain
Speaker 3: laws to be passed, they want to change immigration policies,
Speaker 3: and why not focus on you know, the other party
Speaker 3: but when you said the racial part, I didn't even
Speaker 3: I didn't even add that part, right, So for me,
Speaker 3: like I understand that you get so much scoutiny, like
Speaker 3: being a black man, being unapologetically hip hop, being you know,
Speaker 3: coming into our communities building with the hip hop community
Speaker 3: being outside as we say a lot, and I never
Speaker 3: want to add to that. I think for me, you know,
Speaker 3: when we voted and we've seen you come into office,
Speaker 3: that's what we.
Speaker 2: Said to ourselves. One of us.
Speaker 3: It's like you know that the has got the building
Speaker 3: that you know what I'm saying. So that was the
Speaker 3: mind state, And I think for me, I wanted to
Speaker 3: see a radical shift, right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see things changed.
Speaker 3: I wanted you to take chances and say, okay, we
Speaker 3: need to change this now. Like unfortunately people say a
Speaker 3: lot about Trump, but Trump don't give a damn but
Speaker 3: what you going in there and he going his base
Speaker 3: said this is what we want. That's what your wealth man,
Speaker 3: this man to whatever it takes to get that and
Speaker 3: that and that's what people respect.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 3: So when I look at New York, right and I say,
Speaker 3: there is there has been nine billion dollars in the
Speaker 3: police and every other education housing is being cut. You know,
Speaker 3: I say to myself, that's not what I thought radical change.
Speaker 2: Right, I thought.
Speaker 3: When we said that we were going to give more
Speaker 3: resources to the communities, We're gonna give the kids better opportunities,
Speaker 3: We're gonna have programs. When we're taking away the after
Speaker 3: school programs and were taking away the early education programs,
Speaker 3: when we're taking away those things that are needed for
Speaker 3: our kids to flourish and stay out of prisons. Right,
Speaker 3: you know, what are we really saying? And so I
Speaker 3: think that's what it is for me. They say, when
Speaker 3: you want to know what someone is invested in, see
Speaker 3: where they spend them.
Speaker 5: Without a doubt, without doubt.
Speaker 4: This is so important because you have to you have
Speaker 4: to peel back the distortion and the radical change you
Speaker 4: were talking about.
Speaker 5: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have We have invested more build more affordable
Speaker 4: housing in one year than the history of the city.
Speaker 4: Our young people have been crying for years for summer
Speaker 4: youth employment. We had put in place one hundred thousand,
Speaker 4: seveer youth employment more than the history of the city.
Speaker 4: We put in place something cause some arise at all
Speaker 4: school long for our young people because there was a
Speaker 4: real loss after COVID. We put more people in those
Speaker 4: programs and the history of the city. So the radical
Speaker 4: change the money that we invested the mwbe's billions of
Speaker 4: dollars in black and brown own.
Speaker 5: Business, they were only get two percent.
Speaker 4: We came in and put in place my Chief Diversity
Speaker 4: Officer of Mike Gardner, and we're putting money back into
Speaker 4: black and brown business and entrepreneurs with our procurement approachases.
Speaker 4: So the radical changes are right there. Like even Forcetercare children,
Speaker 4: we knew our Forceycare children aged out at eighteen, and
Speaker 4: we knew that they were either homeless, in jail, victim
Speaker 4: of a crime, mental health issues. We're now allowing our
Speaker 4: force Tocare children to have life coaches into their twenty
Speaker 4: one paying that college tuition with the stiphing, and we
Speaker 4: have the highest number of Forcetercare children that enrolled in
Speaker 4: college because of what we're doing in the history of
Speaker 4: the city. There's a whole lot of radical changes coming about,
Speaker 4: but you're not going to read it if you. All
Speaker 4: they try to put out is that we saw Eric
Speaker 4: last night at the club.
Speaker 2: But I don't think I don't think for me is
Speaker 2: reading it.
Speaker 3: It's just me being in the community doing the work
Speaker 3: that I do on the ground. I know that the
Speaker 3: community centers are closed. I know that the after school
Speaker 3: programs are closed. I know that those things have been
Speaker 3: taken up. I literally see that. I know these kids
Speaker 3: are on the corners that want to be able to
Speaker 3: go to play basketball, to want to be able to
Speaker 3: go to the shop class. We want to be able
Speaker 3: to go to a music program after school, and those
Speaker 3: those programs have been closed. Because I'm in the schools
Speaker 3: every day and I'm talking to the teachers and they say,
Speaker 3: we don't have the budget for those things.
Speaker 2: Those things betther day get in that.
Speaker 4: Let me let me share this with you because this
Speaker 4: is why this is so crucial. With the former mayor.
Speaker 4: Did he put in place a lot of permanent programs
Speaker 4: using COVID stimulus dollars that sunset it twenty four, some
Speaker 4: subset it in twenty three, then subset it in twenty four.
Speaker 4: So what we had to do is he knew that
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be here, and I know these dollars
Speaker 4: are going to sunset. We had to find money to
Speaker 4: keep those programs going.
Speaker 2: We kept three k and pre k.
Speaker 4: Although the dollars went away, we kept selling them summarizing.
Speaker 4: Although the dollars run away, we kept them Midnight on
Speaker 4: Basketball are going on. We put money back into those
Speaker 4: programs with a four billion dollar price sagg that came
Speaker 4: from the micros and the Signum secrets that money. I
Speaker 4: got to balance my buddy, my budget by the law.
Speaker 3: But the money has been cut. The budget has literally
Speaker 3: been cut. You're telling me that you put more money
Speaker 3: into it, but the budget has been cut. This is
Speaker 3: the numbers are saying that the budgets are cut for school,
Speaker 3: for after school programs, the budget, the money is not there.
Speaker 3: So when we're having this conversation, I hear what you're saying,
Speaker 3: but it's not funneling into the hoods that we come from.
Speaker 3: When you're saying that we're gonna put more police on
Speaker 3: the grounds, but we're taking away resources that these kids
Speaker 3: actually need so they don't go to jail, then what
Speaker 3: are we saying and we investing in were investing in
Speaker 3: them to go to jail or were trying to stop
Speaker 3: them from going down? If we don't have the resources
Speaker 3: to stop from going to I heard you talking about
Speaker 3: the prisons that you took the programs out of prisons.
Speaker 3: I'm formally incarcerated. I know how a lot of those
Speaker 3: programs helped us. I know how to look a lot
Speaker 3: of those programs kept us out of trouble inside the prison.
Speaker 3: I know how a lot of those those programs prepared
Speaker 3: us to come home from prison.
Speaker 2: Actually, those programs should be outside.
Speaker 3: They should they should morph into programs that we have
Speaker 3: extend without the programs that were side.
Speaker 2: So when we're taking away those.
Speaker 3: Programs and you're saying that people are making money or
Speaker 3: trying to get rich off of the poverty and community,
Speaker 3: but we're putting more police. Aren't the police making money
Speaker 3: off of it? If we're putting more police into the
Speaker 3: train station, were putting more police in our communities. And
Speaker 3: a lot of these police are not even community based officers.
Speaker 3: They're not culturally confident to being our communities.
Speaker 4: Well go back, go back for our mom, brother, because
Speaker 4: I think that it's so important. And what you what
Speaker 4: we should do. You should come in and see what
Speaker 4: we're doing with my dyc D, you know, because.
Speaker 3: Shaping each other's That night, so me and me and
Speaker 3: me and the men were supposed to have a meeting
Speaker 3: months ago, probably last year, and it never happened. But
Speaker 3: you know, I know you're busy going through a lot
Speaker 3: of snuff.
Speaker 2: Busy.
Speaker 4: I'm busy on steroids. I'm always over for me because
Speaker 4: I'm busy on steroid's brother.
Speaker 2: Who would have.
Speaker 4: Thought when I got in office January twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: I was gonna have one hundred thousand people showing up.
Speaker 4: Imagine having imagine having seventy people come to your house
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, say you got to take
Speaker 4: care of me. You got to take care of my food,
Speaker 4: my clothing, my medical needs. Man, this was dropped into
Speaker 4: my lap. And with dropping that into my lap, it
Speaker 4: came with a four billion dollar price tag.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: But that's still our young kids are dying and going
Speaker 3: to jail the higher rate, especially young black So that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, as a black man, that's supposed to
Speaker 3: be a priority to me. I don't care what position,
Speaker 3: get life anywhere. This is why I do boycott black murder.
Speaker 3: This is why I focus on young black males because
Speaker 3: I understand that we are dropping out of schools at
Speaker 3: the highest rates, we're dying at the highest rates, and
Speaker 3: we're being incarcerated at the highest rates. So if we're
Speaker 3: not if we're not truly focusing on how do we
Speaker 3: redirect Because if we're saying that we're putting more money
Speaker 3: into prisons and we got more police officers on the community,
Speaker 3: and the police officers that come in the community h
Speaker 3: sometimes agitating because most of them don't come in and
Speaker 3: stop this.
Speaker 4: They got it, got it. But it has to be,
Speaker 4: it has to be. It has to be multi fascting
Speaker 4: has to be multi faceted. I like to say, it
Speaker 4: has to be intervention and prevention.
Speaker 2: That's the fact you're aware.
Speaker 4: We put more money in our crisis management team with
Speaker 4: at Mitchell Man s o S. We put more money
Speaker 4: into that than anyone has had done before going on
Speaker 4: the ground and meeting these young people where it is
Speaker 4: and look at the numbers in Brownsville.
Speaker 5: No one was able to turn around.
Speaker 3: Eight is my brother. So you know, I work with
Speaker 3: eighteen on a daily basis. But what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 3: there's no functionable plan for prevention in our community. There's
Speaker 3: no like shut out, let me let me just I
Speaker 3: don't want to do you don't shout out to ross state.
Speaker 3: Barock In the Newark like he has a model for
Speaker 3: violence that he's a black.
Speaker 2: Man and that's.
Speaker 5: Ros Baraka.
Speaker 4: His dad was Ros Barock also and Ros is my
Speaker 4: dude and still going through some issues in Newark.
Speaker 2: Also all of these citizen but they are.
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to say there's an intentional he has
Speaker 3: funded the community. Like we don't want to say everybody
Speaker 3: hates to say to defund the police, because that doesn't.
Speaker 2: The verbiage doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3: But we want to refund the community right because their community.
Speaker 3: There are community people who if you invest the dollars
Speaker 3: in the community, then you see the change. And I've
Speaker 3: been working in Newark with Rodd Jate Barock on those things,
Speaker 3: so I know what can happen. I just think that
Speaker 3: when we when you know, there's been a lot of instances,
Speaker 3: a few instances.
Speaker 2: Where you.
Speaker 3: Stand by police that I think there should be some
Speaker 3: level of that's not okay.
Speaker 4: So I know I say it by public safety. That's
Speaker 4: that's the difference between saying it by police and standing
Speaker 4: by public safety.
Speaker 2: You go when you go into our.
Speaker 4: Communities when I'm when I do a bunch of town
Speaker 4: halls in our community, you know, when I speak in
Speaker 4: my communities, those communities that you're talking about, Harlem and
Speaker 4: what have you. They tell me their needs. I respond
Speaker 4: to the needs. It's not what I want to respond to.
Speaker 4: What are the needs you want in your community? And
Speaker 4: so when you say that's not a master plan, I think,
Speaker 4: first we should sit down and look at my plan.
Speaker 4: Look at what we're doing with forced to care children.
Speaker 4: Look at what we're doing the summer youth employment. Look
Speaker 4: at what we're doing. Thirty to forty percent of the
Speaker 4: inmates at Rykers Island or dyslexic. I have a dyslexic screening.
Speaker 4: We have to be prevention and not just intervention. And
Speaker 4: so I think that before we say okay, there's no plan,
Speaker 4: look at my plan, because you're not gonna learn my
Speaker 4: plan by hearing what people are saying.
Speaker 5: You're gonna learn my plan.
Speaker 2: And look at exactly what we're doing some of the
Speaker 2: simple ass we.
Speaker 4: Drop the course of childcare for parents. That's what's we're
Speaker 4: preventing our mother from going back to work. We dropped
Speaker 4: it from fifty five dollars a week to less than
Speaker 4: five dollars of five dollars a week. We're leaning into
Speaker 4: maternal mobility. No one has focused as this. Black women
Speaker 4: are dying at a rate that's just proportionate through maternal mobidity.
Speaker 4: Funding those crises management team and so I don't think
Speaker 4: there's a full analysis of that. You know our full plan,
Speaker 4: so we you should sit down with the team and
Speaker 4: look at them.
Speaker 3: I don't know your full plan, but I work with
Speaker 3: the crisis management people on a daily basis, and I
Speaker 3: know a lot of them still are underfunded. I know
Speaker 3: a lot of in a lot of resources they don't have.
Speaker 3: You know, in a lot of communities they're not even
Speaker 3: able to fund certain situations. When we look at Rykers Island,
Speaker 3: over twenty some people have died and whatever the reason is,
Speaker 3: you know, the police officer, the correction officers are care
Speaker 3: custody and control.
Speaker 2: So that means that somebody failed at.
Speaker 3: Something right, And I haven't heard I've never heard the
Speaker 3: man say, you know what, somebody in there may be responsible.
Speaker 4: That's not that's not Let's dig into Rykers for more,
Speaker 4: because because I love how people talk about right, rykis
Speaker 4: what happened many years ago, we closed a lot of
Speaker 4: our psychiatric facilities.
Speaker 5: We close all over. There was a big move the
Speaker 5: advocatests called the close them down.
Speaker 1: What's the one that's after You get the creed more
Speaker 1: creed more than others.
Speaker 4: And so what they did they did not give people
Speaker 4: the services they needed. Seventy of folks on rykis Island
Speaker 4: have mental health illness. Eighteen percent have severillent mental health
Speaker 4: illness because they come to the street, they don't get
Speaker 4: the care, and then they just cycle back into into
Speaker 4: into Reiki's Island. We're up there having focused group with
Speaker 4: our inmates and officers because remember eighty percent of the
Speaker 4: offices are black and brown. Over eighty five percent of
Speaker 4: the inmates are black and brown. Forty percent of them
Speaker 4: are women. So they what has happened historically. They just
Speaker 4: threw black and brown correction offices, black and brown inmates
Speaker 4: into the facilities and say, listen, you guys fight among
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 4: I went up there and we did when my brother
Speaker 4: father listened, no more program, A real program, not just
Speaker 4: some zymbolic program where somebody's making fourteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 4: This brother's up there, and I'm up there with him,
Speaker 4: sitting down with those young men, talking with those those
Speaker 4: young men. No matter how busy my day is I'm
Speaker 4: on Rikers Island because I know I can't have these
Speaker 4: brothers come out and go back in.
Speaker 2: Bill de Blaser didn't go on Rikers Island.
Speaker 5: Bloomberg didn't go on Rikers Island. You know, look at
Speaker 5: where these mayors are.
Speaker 4: I'm on the ground with these brothers talking to them,
Speaker 4: and they're seeing me saying, this mayor is willing to
Speaker 4: take his time out and go spend time to come
Speaker 4: and find out what do you brothers need here?
Speaker 2: That system was broken for years, brother, and it broke.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: And I think for me is that that's why I
Speaker 3: know you have the ability to do what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because you on the ground. You're going there and having
Speaker 3: those conversations if you know what's going on the right becers.
Speaker 2: There are documentaries about right.
Speaker 3: I was on Records Islands for seven seven to eight
Speaker 3: months more I know a bunch of people. Records Island
Speaker 3: is not run. It's not run with kid custody and control.
Speaker 3: It's ran like it's ran like a ganghouse, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And a lot of the officers are
Speaker 3: responsible for the officers say that, I will say they're
Speaker 3: bringing drugs in bringing a lot of the times the
Speaker 3: officers are gang a gang members. So the reality, these
Speaker 3: are realities that we're dealing with. So when when when
Speaker 3: the answer seems to be that we put more officers
Speaker 3: and we pay more the budget to the police when
Speaker 3: a lot of them are the problem. You know, I've
Speaker 3: seen you stay an officer went to arrest somebody. So
Speaker 3: this is this is what a lot of things that
Speaker 3: I don't understand. Officers make arrest right. The officer has
Speaker 3: a responsibility. Officers trained, he's paid, right, he has a
Speaker 3: responsibility to de escalate if I if I, if I'm
Speaker 3: an officer and I and I come to arrest a
Speaker 3: citizen or even engage you to so.
Speaker 2: I know they might be right, they might be drinking,
Speaker 2: they might have mental health.
Speaker 3: My job is to try to de escalate the situation
Speaker 3: right before escalates. If a lady is angry at me
Speaker 3: and she does something in my hand, I'm not supposed
Speaker 3: to punch it in the faith right. So what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is you say, without a doubt you agree, but
Speaker 3: that exact situation happened, and you said that she wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to engage the officer, and he punched.
Speaker 2: The lady in the face.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that circumstance.
Speaker 2: I remember the circumstance. I spoke to the family and
Speaker 2: a circumstance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, there was like a circumstance I don't understand.
Speaker 3: So what happened when there was a guy he had
Speaker 3: drugs on him, He was trying to run, and he
Speaker 3: was trying to he came out of a building.
Speaker 2: He was trying to stash something.
Speaker 4: I think you're trying to was the circumstance was God
Speaker 4: was wanted for murder, had a gun on him. They
Speaker 4: were arresting him for having a gun on him. The
Speaker 4: sister went in the middle of the melee as they
Speaker 4: taken the gun off of him.
Speaker 2: That's not what happened, sister, maybe talking.
Speaker 3: My different sister was standing there and the officer pushed her.
Speaker 3: The officer grabbed her and through we may be too much,
Speaker 3: I remember the same exact situation, all right. And then
Speaker 3: after he pushed her, she pushed him back and he
Speaker 3: punched her in the face with a closed fist. Now,
Speaker 3: regardless of what you're saying that those situations when you
Speaker 3: engage villions in that manner, then you can't expect them
Speaker 3: to have any level of respect for thorough.
Speaker 4: And that's the point that you're raising, if I'm understanding
Speaker 4: you correctly, is that if somebody, first of all, there's
Speaker 4: no one in this room going to sit here and
Speaker 4: say they didn't have negative event and counsels with police.
Speaker 4: Let's be let's be clear that I'm not here to listen,
Speaker 4: I got arrested, I was kicked in my groin as
Speaker 4: a fifteen year old by a white cop that stood
Speaker 4: over me.
Speaker 5: Kicking my brother and I in the going.
Speaker 4: That's why you became right, right, right, So I'm not
Speaker 4: here to defend the horrific actions of policing.
Speaker 2: That's not so.
Speaker 4: I don't want all of a sudden walk away with
Speaker 4: folks saying, okay, you the postal child for what's great
Speaker 4: about policing. No, I'm not what you What you're saying
Speaker 4: is that we have to have the right people because
Speaker 4: you do need police. Don't let's not get out you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If you if you're telling me
Speaker 4: you don't need police, that's not what these grandmothers are
Speaker 4: telling all. Here's what I'm saying to you and This
Speaker 4: is difficult for a lot of people to understand. I've
Speaker 4: been mayor two years in four months. Brother, this sis,
Speaker 4: this city has been fucked up for decades. Brother comes
Speaker 4: in two years, four months with all of this mess
Speaker 4: coming down on him, and they all, Okay, brother.
Speaker 2: Why are you in the park to see you?
Speaker 4: But what what I gotta I have?
Speaker 5: When you look at the role of being mayor, sir,
Speaker 5: you know, being mayor.
Speaker 4: Of the most important city on the globe, eight point
Speaker 4: three million people. Everything from rats to stick up cats,
Speaker 4: you know, to a broken correction of facility. You said
Speaker 4: you were in rykers.
Speaker 2: It was. It was fucked up when you were there.
Speaker 2: So why would people.
Speaker 4: Think that, Eric, you get in office, You inherited COVID,
Speaker 4: you heerded the financial mess, You inherited thousands of guns
Speaker 4: in your streets, inherited a broken riking system for generations.
Speaker 4: Now you're here for two years and four months. Eric,
Speaker 4: why don't we see this turnaround on the right?
Speaker 6: Come on?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 6: Is it a broken political system? Is it bureaucracy? Is
Speaker 6: it money miss mismanagement? Is it corruption?
Speaker 2: All of that? All of that.
Speaker 4: So the first thing you have to do, anyone who
Speaker 4: has who takes over a business, the first thing you
Speaker 4: have to do is get in there and analyze what
Speaker 4: the hell do I have here? This stuff was a
Speaker 4: mess when we got here, So unlike other folks, I
Speaker 4: went in and brought my own team. I'm the first
Speaker 4: man in history that you see authentic on the ground
Speaker 4: black and brown folks running my administration. And we turned
Speaker 4: this city around in two years. In two years is
Speaker 4: we turned the city around?
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 4: Everybody said's gonna take five years. So I know we're
Speaker 4: not where we all we ought to be. Brother, I'm
Speaker 4: with that. We're not where we ought to be, but
Speaker 4: we're moving where we ought to be. When you do
Speaker 4: an analysis what I have been doing for black and
Speaker 4: brown people in the city, from procurement billions of dollars
Speaker 4: into my nonprofits, investing in our in our children, managing
Speaker 4: the financial crises that we had. No one thought we
Speaker 4: can do this with taking you took four billion dollars
Speaker 4: out of your budget, not four million, four billion dollars
Speaker 4: out of your budget, and still had.
Speaker 5: To manage the manage this this this city.
Speaker 4: And so I know the mess that I inherited, and
Speaker 4: I know we're not there where we ought to be.
Speaker 5: But you know what I do know, I know my heart.
Speaker 5: I know my heart.
Speaker 4: The city abandoned and betrayed my mother, raised the six children,
Speaker 4: robbed my sister of her childhood because Mom had to
Speaker 4: do those three goddamn jobs and sign you had to
Speaker 4: stay home and take us.
Speaker 2: So I'm from what I saw growing up.
Speaker 4: And so my fight against police brutality, it did not
Speaker 4: come because I saw when I was a cop. It
Speaker 4: came because I know what they did to us, my brother. Still,
Speaker 4: it's not okay over this. But I just and I
Speaker 4: hear you.
Speaker 3: I just don't hear that stated when the situation's happened. Man,
Speaker 3: I just don't hear when they are direct situations. A
Speaker 3: young boy what's his name? When who was just killed
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, I haven't. I haven't heard that level
Speaker 3: of understanding that a mentally ill person who calls for
Speaker 3: somebody to come help him is killed in his home.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I haven't heard that.
Speaker 3: I heard you speak about when something happened to the
Speaker 3: police officer and you went to the proved funeral, and
Speaker 3: you said that you still had to stand by fan
Speaker 3: and you should. But I think that mother who lost
Speaker 3: her child should have the same enthusiasm. Should have you
Speaker 3: seen that. I'm sorry for what happened to your child.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that your child lost his life because that
Speaker 3: went mental.
Speaker 4: And I agree, but I don't see it. But I
Speaker 4: shouldn't have no, no, no, no, no no. I said
Speaker 4: you should call I said, I called the mother. Okay,
Speaker 4: I called the mother. I called the pastor and said,
Speaker 4: when you when she's ready to see me, I would
Speaker 4: like to come and see her.
Speaker 2: But when you're the mayor of.
Speaker 3: This, why would you not publicly state that? Because I did,
Speaker 3: I never heard it.
Speaker 4: You never could hear anything good, I say, brother, because
Speaker 4: the people, the people who are writing my see people
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: That's why it's called history.
Speaker 4: My story is not being told, brother, you know because
Speaker 4: based on what they want to pay me on. Because
Speaker 4: this is the same game they did with thinkings. They
Speaker 4: want to create the image to rolle my base. I
Speaker 4: didn't get elected by them, and so they said, let's
Speaker 4: keep eroding his base and have his base turned against him.
Speaker 5: Go back and look at they did with thinkings.
Speaker 2: Brother. That's why I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3: I'm so aware and if I wasn't seeing these things
Speaker 3: and I don't listen to half the things the news say.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I have like you know,
Speaker 3: I'm tuned in with the people when there inside your
Speaker 3: So I'm coming at you as a black man that
Speaker 3: wants to see you be successful. But I think in
Speaker 3: order for us, for me, because I'm in these communities
Speaker 3: trying to taking guns out of these kids' hands every day,
Speaker 3: I'm in the communities telling them that they need to
Speaker 3: change their ways. And when there's a posture taken that
Speaker 3: the police can do whatever they want in the communities,
Speaker 3: when they see what they believe that's what's being seen
Speaker 3: by the top cop in the city, and watching officers
Speaker 3: just do what they want, then it becomes this like, well, fuck,
Speaker 3: that's me against them because they become a gang. The
Speaker 3: police inside New York City have become a gang. There
Speaker 3: are certain pockets of police that have gang mentality and activities.
Speaker 2: So if we understand that and my job is in
Speaker 2: my job.
Speaker 3: Is because I'm trying to save these babies' lives and
Speaker 3: keep them on the streets and redirect them, then we
Speaker 3: have to be intentional like me, and you have to
Speaker 3: we have to sit down and show.
Speaker 2: That we intend. That's what I said that roswel Rock
Speaker 2: is doing. He has the.
Speaker 3: Police, he sits down and shows them this is how
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this. Police are not gonna respond to
Speaker 3: every situation. We got mental health officers that go. If
Speaker 3: the mental health officer had went, Win would still be alive,
Speaker 3: right if community based organizations had went when he called
Speaker 3: and an officer said, look, I'm not really trained to
Speaker 3: do that, that's not really my fullte Let me send
Speaker 3: out some mental health officers.
Speaker 2: Let me call the community.
Speaker 3: Based organizations to go over there and see what they
Speaker 3: can do, because I'm gonna take a pair of scissors
Speaker 3: out of a young boy's arms before I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Try to kill them.
Speaker 4: But I don't disagree with you, but I think that
Speaker 4: that's why it's so important to dig into these cases.
Speaker 4: The case was not a mental health job. And I
Speaker 4: can't go into the details of these cases because now
Speaker 4: it's in a legal arena. But in the real urural
Speaker 4: of policing, you have to create that, and we have
Speaker 4: created that. We have created to have mental health professionals
Speaker 4: go when those jobs come over.
Speaker 5: We created that because that's the combination that you need.
Speaker 4: You don't need just sometimes the police can aggravate someone
Speaker 4: sees that uniform, They can aggravate it in a real way.
Speaker 4: But if I were to come to you've been You've
Speaker 4: been doing this for a while, and you gotta and
Speaker 4: you gotta. You have an authentic, good approach to what
Speaker 4: you're doing in Harlem. And I remember we were rapping
Speaker 4: about after somebody was shot in the community. But if
Speaker 4: I were to come to you and say that with
Speaker 4: all the work you have been doing, they're still shooting
Speaker 4: is in Harlem and it's your fault.
Speaker 2: That makes no sense.
Speaker 4: You out there, you're on the ground ground, committed your
Speaker 4: life to this world, and you're doing more than enough.
Speaker 4: So when we look at what is happening in cities,
Speaker 4: what's going on with Chicago. We see what my brother
Speaker 4: Johnson is going through in Chicago, what's happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: When we look at these black mayors that inherited these
Speaker 4: systems that were destructive, and all of a sudden they say, listen, man,
Speaker 4: you guys have been there for two years. This is
Speaker 4: why you gotta fix it now. That's like me is
Speaker 4: going to you and say, brother, you've been doing this
Speaker 4: work for some years. While we not have any more
Speaker 4: homicide in Harlem, that's not what we should be doing
Speaker 4: it each other. We should be coming together and say,
Speaker 4: it's this person authentic about this work. There's never been
Speaker 4: a mayor in this city that's been more authentic about
Speaker 4: this work the way I am, and the results are
Speaker 4: there when you sit down and look, I have my team.
Speaker 4: The other day, say listen, we gotta put together a
Speaker 4: wins list because people don't know how we have changed
Speaker 4: this game. People gonna look back later and they're gonna say,
Speaker 4: we can't believe his brother did this. You know, but
Speaker 4: they have played us to the point that, you know what,
Speaker 4: we're gonna keep. There's a mission in the city. This
Speaker 4: cat never could be made again. He can't be reelected.
Speaker 2: You know who.
Speaker 4: We think He's coming in and gonna now take these
Speaker 4: billions of dollars that we've been eating off for years.
Speaker 4: Because I'm not fighting against the people who running against me, brother,
Speaker 4: I'm fighting against the people who have been eaten off
Speaker 4: of us for years. Poverty is profitable. People have been
Speaker 4: hustling us. If you don't give a young person this
Speaker 4: lex your screening, he ends up in Rykers Island and
Speaker 4: you got all these programs in Rikers Island, and then
Speaker 4: do analysis who are running these programs. They don't look
Speaker 4: like us, they don't they people have, people have played us.
Speaker 2: Man was so.
Speaker 3: Long, and I think that's what the issue is for me.
Speaker 3: You understand that poverty is violence. Yes, right, we understand
Speaker 3: that we don't give these kids every opportunity.
Speaker 2: I remember, you.
Speaker 3: Know, before I got incarcerated, the reason why I didn't
Speaker 3: go to jails because I had to have the school programs.
Speaker 3: I went and played basketball and we went on these trips.
Speaker 3: And these kids don't have that. They literally, they literally
Speaker 3: do not. I'm just I'm telling you they don't. I
Speaker 3: work in schools I have, I'm creating curriculums, I'm creating
Speaker 3: after schools with it are none of those things.
Speaker 2: So I know what I have to.
Speaker 3: I want you to come see what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with this on a daily basis. Like there
Speaker 3: should be way more community centers, you know, like the
Speaker 3: brother At has in Brooklyn, those type of centers.
Speaker 2: It should be completely sentenced to.
Speaker 4: It's my analysis to that, and I want to I
Speaker 4: want to make a point in a minute also about
Speaker 4: you know what wet me a drake man.
Speaker 2: You gotta come in.
Speaker 3: This is black, this is a blacks and I respect
Speaker 3: and I know that's hard, is in the right place,
Speaker 3: but I it's just I need you to you to
Speaker 3: say this is what I said. My problem with the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party. You don't say it with your chest because
Speaker 3: they saying it with they chest. Governor ever is saying
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send all of these over there, and I
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck what y'all say. Trump says I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do this because that's when my base went. And
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck with your saying. Y'all trying
Speaker 3: to let me let me, let me say what ain't
Speaker 3: gonna me.
Speaker 1: I'm the most simplistic person here. I'm dyslexic to the fullest.
Speaker 1: I see cat, I see car like, I love oh
Speaker 1: ships like make it, make sense of it, that's right, right,
Speaker 1: So I look at things in the most simplistic form.
Speaker 1: I don't like buying because he doesn't wear a present than.
Speaker 2: To Rolex, how do you president? And you gotta fucking dangerous?
Speaker 2: What doesn't make sense? You President?
Speaker 1: I'm simplessed the thing about Trump, and I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: something right, He plays on that to us. He went
Speaker 1: to Chick fil A. Now, anybody that's gotten, if you've
Speaker 1: got a little bit of black and you you know,
Speaker 1: Chicken fil A, that's like got our heart, like even
Speaker 1: though that's why they close on a Sunday because they
Speaker 1: know that's where we want to go at the church.
Speaker 2: He went to a fucking Chick fil A. And I'm looking.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I look at Biden and I'm like, damn, I ain't
Speaker 1: see him at Bory Rogers.
Speaker 2: The church's tried. He go to Charlie's in Harlem Man.
Speaker 2: He ain't go to the Juice one ross like he
Speaker 2: don't have a he don't have a hipp And you're right,
Speaker 2: but see, but see what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Two things to to observation too, observation to observation that
Speaker 5: I think is important.
Speaker 4: Number One, we're having the same we're having the same
Speaker 4: conversation that we had on the breakfast club.
Speaker 2: But you're seeing we're compensating. That's right.
Speaker 4: His mission wasn't you know what. I just want to
Speaker 4: come in and just be disruptive. I want to talk
Speaker 4: over you. I want to just listen. People know black
Speaker 4: folks know how to dislike each other. But let's show
Speaker 4: how we love each other.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and so what what you're doing.
Speaker 4: It's like, listen, I disagree, but I'm gonna hear you.
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna hear you. That's what I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: nothing people like more. Then you know what, We're gonna
Speaker 4: always show that they can't get along, but showing how
Speaker 4: we get along. Then the brothers on the street are
Speaker 4: going to say, here's a brother that's on the street.
Speaker 2: He's a man of the.
Speaker 5: City of New York. They sitting in the same room
Speaker 5: and they learning from each other.
Speaker 2: That's the key, because I don't know whatever, we need
Speaker 2: to listen.
Speaker 1: This is the most beautifult thing about this.
Speaker 2: You got some tequila.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna be honest. Hold on, hold on, because
Speaker 1: to get serious, you.
Speaker 2: Hear us say something good though this. I always judge
Speaker 2: people by what they drink. Steven A.
Speaker 1: Smith came in here drinking Hennessy and Coke Colon.
Speaker 2: I knew I was going to knew his love. He's
Speaker 2: the leaders. Money is success. He's still way sorry. I
Speaker 2: can't tell you.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is because because the mission and the
Speaker 3: goal is for us to win. That's you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm not here, You're not my adversary. Not
Speaker 3: see a black man in position. I want to see
Speaker 3: him win, you know. And so when I'm when I'm looking,
Speaker 3: I'm not just looking from my lens, I'm looking at Okay,
Speaker 3: what are they seeing? What is the community seeing? How
Speaker 3: are they able to play us against each other? How
Speaker 3: they able to get your base to go against you
Speaker 3: or to start saying he's not doing this and this
Speaker 3: is a strategy they've always used against right, Right, So
Speaker 3: when I'm seeing it and I'm having a conversation with you,
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the perspective from somebody that's from the
Speaker 3: outside looking and saying, if you really which I really
Speaker 3: believe that you want to change, that you want to be,
Speaker 3: you know that have that radical change, then you have
Speaker 3: to be very intentional, right because a lot of people,
Speaker 3: you know the news and sound bites, they gonna sound
Speaker 3: bite you to death. So what you have to do
Speaker 3: is be intentional about saying and doing certain things and
Speaker 3: being able to say this is what it is like
Speaker 3: I've been It's crazy to me that every time I'm
Speaker 3: in close proximity to you, I hear the message that
Speaker 3: I want to hear. When we did the one hundred
Speaker 3: Black Men's meeting you're speaking, I was like, that's what
Speaker 3: I want to hear.
Speaker 2: Why I can't get that no else? Right? And so
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Everybody sees all politicians, you say, say what they what
Speaker 6: you want to hear, but then it doesn't so.
Speaker 2: That's what they say.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's intentional, which I do
Speaker 3: know is intentional for most some some venues and avenues
Speaker 3: and narrators that they're trying to paint. But I also
Speaker 3: know that somehow Trump's message gets to everybody, right, the
Speaker 3: people that he don't like and the people he do like.
Speaker 2: His fan base is always.
Speaker 3: Going to say Trump said exactly what the fuck we
Speaker 3: wanted to hear.
Speaker 2: So I think that.
Speaker 3: We have to be intentional about that, you know, like
Speaker 3: that we have to be intentional about saying, Look, I
Speaker 3: understand who my base is, I understand what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do, and I normally get a little pushback here
Speaker 3: and there from the other people.
Speaker 2: That don't exactly agree.
Speaker 3: But I have to be intentioned on saying, look, these communities,
Speaker 3: these black communities, we have to start funding these communities more.
Speaker 3: We have to make sure we got to go and
Speaker 3: talk to Raheem and James on the corner and see
Speaker 3: exactly what it is. We got resources, my little nigg
Speaker 3: right resources and because for me to take guns out
Speaker 3: their hands when there's no.
Speaker 4: Resourced percent and and when I'm what I am saying,
Speaker 4: which is interested in is that when you're do an analysis,
Speaker 4: exactly what you're saying we should be doing is what
Speaker 4: we are doing.
Speaker 2: We have shifted.
Speaker 4: The the whole funding stream to those who are in need.
Speaker 4: And that's what you were talking about. That's what I
Speaker 4: was explaining on the Breakfast Club. You have these organizations
Speaker 4: that were going to rikers, providing services, getting paid, but
Speaker 4: no one was in them. And so what I what
Speaker 4: I said to them, show me Now we're bringing some
Speaker 4: new cats in.
Speaker 5: That's gonna have folks like an a team mitche.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll run out a bunch of programs. I worked
Speaker 3: with at I worked with and I've been I've been
Speaker 3: on Rightkers Island. We had a we had good programs
Speaker 3: that they stopped funding and it was just like, why
Speaker 3: would you stop funding? I worked with the bartenders with
Speaker 3: you know where we went into.
Speaker 2: Giant and good style, and.
Speaker 3: These were we was Bobby's murder was in there, and
Speaker 3: we was going to his house every day and and
Speaker 3: working with his mind, and he and he came home
Speaker 3: and instead.
Speaker 4: You could you could first of all, you don't have
Speaker 4: to do time. You could do something with the time.
Speaker 4: There's no reason. What I'm saying is instead of having
Speaker 4: them sit down, we got a whole green economy that
Speaker 4: we're rolling out. I should be treating, no teaching those
Speaker 4: brothers right now how to do battery installation, how to
Speaker 4: install solar panel. If the cats get that real job skill,
Speaker 4: then they come home and they don't have to go back,
Speaker 4: go back to that life. You know what's deep when
Speaker 4: I sit down with my with you know, with those
Speaker 4: who I talk on the regular, that's involved, that's out
Speaker 4: there hustling and slinging. I said, how many you I DYSLEXI,
Speaker 4: how many have a learning disability? It's overwhelming. Brother, those
Speaker 4: brothers were no different than me. Laughed at bullied out.
Speaker 4: Throw now and say why am I sitting in here?
Speaker 4: You know I'm not learning? And that's what we have
Speaker 4: to go down to the foundation of this. And brother,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you when you do an analysis of what
Speaker 4: we have been doing, you're gonna walk away with.
Speaker 5: Saying this is an authentic cat.
Speaker 3: But I want to be able to do that analysis,
Speaker 3: and I want to be able to sit down and
Speaker 3: see that and be able to go outside and say
Speaker 3: that right because I want to because I want to
Speaker 3: be armed with the.
Speaker 2: Facts to be able to say no that what you're
Speaker 2: saying is, well, you know what Kanye said when he
Speaker 2: was on here.
Speaker 1: He said a while said, but this is this is
Speaker 1: something that was very very deep. He said, he went
Speaker 1: to visit a prison and he all he saw was
Speaker 1: the wrong made decisions of Riza. Like he said, he
Speaker 1: seen a person that could have been but he made
Speaker 1: one decision. He said, he met like the Nazis, the
Speaker 1: the Drakes, the Jacobles or whoever. He was, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was meeting him. He was like, this was the
Speaker 1: same person with one bad decision. So what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: like almost, that's.
Speaker 2: Exactly what we need and we need and we need.
Speaker 4: What we need is like when I when I when
Speaker 4: when when when I ran.
Speaker 5: My brother and I got her rest. You know, we
Speaker 5: had these fake goal changes.
Speaker 4: We used to go down the canal street and sell
Speaker 4: these fake goal change to tourists and this was one
Speaker 4: of them. And and and and my counselor. I'll never forget, man.
Speaker 4: We had to go over to forty Projects to see
Speaker 4: this counselor and we walked in and after she did
Speaker 4: our first session, she told my brother, listen, I want
Speaker 4: you to come back next week.
Speaker 5: And she says, Eric, you don't have to bother coming back.
Speaker 4: In her mind, you know, you're just so fucked up, man,
Speaker 4: this is a waste of my time sitting.
Speaker 5: Here talking to you.
Speaker 2: And she was like, you know, don't even bother coming back.
Speaker 4: And I remember walking down the block down Guy or
Speaker 4: brew A Boulevard.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was called New York Boulevard at the time.
Speaker 4: I was walking down the block and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, like, what's what, what's that's all about? And
Speaker 4: so think Pedro, who was who arrested, who had to
Speaker 4: speak with me to get us out. He showed me
Speaker 4: that gold chain and he was like, I best I
Speaker 4: could get you to buy this gold chain.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, what fuck.
Speaker 2: You talking about? The shit to say?
Speaker 4: And he pulled out this book called State of Black America,
Speaker 4: The Urban League.
Speaker 5: I think used to put it out at the time.
Speaker 4: It showed how many, how many by the time you
Speaker 4: get eighteen, how many people, how many black youth would
Speaker 4: be arrested? I was arrested. How many will have children?
Speaker 4: My young girlfriend already aborted a child. How many will
Speaker 4: be dropping out of school? So all that stuff that
Speaker 4: they said, they predicted that was gonna happen to us.
Speaker 4: I was like, right in there, so someone else defined
Speaker 4: my life, and I pissed me the hell off, man,
Speaker 4: you know. And that was like the turning point for
Speaker 4: me that I said, you know what I'm not. This
Speaker 4: is not the life I'm going to have someone predict
Speaker 4: for me. And so we need you and me. Is
Speaker 4: what the rest is for us, not only in New
Speaker 4: York right right, because what we're going through in New York,
Speaker 4: go look at Chicago, Go look at Los Angeles, Go
Speaker 4: look at San Francisco, you know, go go look at Miami.
Speaker 4: The record that was in the sixties, brother's going to
Speaker 4: work it out. We gotta nobody's gonna do this for us.
Speaker 4: We're catching hell across the globe black man universally, it's
Speaker 4: catching hell across the glow. When I'm on to count
Speaker 4: North Africa. Me and my brother's over there, same type
Speaker 4: of exploitation. No matter where we are, black men are
Speaker 4: catching hell across the globe.
Speaker 2: We gotta do this.
Speaker 4: We gotta sit down together and say, okay, here's Eric
Speaker 4: where I think you.
Speaker 5: Can prove on his whatnot.
Speaker 4: And then we got to push back on the street.
Speaker 4: When people are talking about madness on the street. You
Speaker 4: know they did it to Dinkers. And who do we
Speaker 4: get Julianne.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we don't like Juliane. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We gotta push back because people are heard, people are
Speaker 4: hurting on the street.
Speaker 5: And when you're hurting on the street, you even look
Speaker 5: at those who.
Speaker 4: Are giving you that life wrap and taking you to
Speaker 4: the next level, you beginning to even despise, despise them.
Speaker 4: There's never been a mayor like me, brother in the city.
Speaker 4: Never been a mayor like me. There's never been a
Speaker 4: mayor that will go when that barbershop closes on Fulton
Speaker 4: Street at one am in the morning to sit down
Speaker 4: with them and say, what's going on in the ground.
Speaker 2: How do we have drug dealers?
Speaker 4: A burger king right right right? That's that's the important story.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about that that Burke was right
Speaker 4: right here.
Speaker 2: We here we are.
Speaker 4: I pick up the paper and I read the paper
Speaker 4: and they say that, you know what, drug dealers are
Speaker 4: hanging out in front of Burger King And we were
Speaker 4: Borrow in Manhattan, Row, Manhattan, right by Wall Street. I
Speaker 4: call up the commanding office over there and I said,
Speaker 4: what's going on over there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: And he says, Eric, these are not drug dealers.
Speaker 4: These are homeless guys and they just, you know, they
Speaker 4: feeling is just a place they can go. Sunday after
Speaker 4: church service. I go down there and I meet them.
Speaker 4: I said, brother, that's how y'all do it? You know,
Speaker 4: I just want to know what's going on and how
Speaker 4: could I help you. We sat down inside the Burger
Speaker 4: King and had a conversation and these are intelligent brothers, man,
Speaker 4: that just they just went through some hard times and
Speaker 4: we then provided services, pathways with.
Speaker 5: Them, things that they were able to get.
Speaker 2: But they did.
Speaker 5: Not know how to navigate this system.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying, that those can be isolated
Speaker 3: situations and not brother, those are you big that you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm saying, but that has to
Speaker 3: be those type of resources have to be available in
Speaker 3: all communities, yes, right, because there are a lot of
Speaker 3: people just outside that don't know where to go. They
Speaker 3: don't definitely, and it's not really there's nothing that says, hey,
Speaker 3: you could go here to get a job, you can
Speaker 3: learn this, you can do this. There's nothing that we
Speaker 3: have in our communities that do a lot of these
Speaker 3: kids don't want to be outside without a job. They
Speaker 3: don't want to down the streets like hustling. Ain't even
Speaker 3: really making no money no more. Yes, they listen, but
Speaker 3: they don't want to Nobody on the streets is really dead.
Speaker 2: They want to be they want to go home. So
Speaker 2: we have to be able to provide that.
Speaker 5: And this is out with this out. We're doing it
Speaker 5: because you're right.
Speaker 4: When when when I'm out sitting this side, because my
Speaker 4: best ideas come from clothes, beauty salons and barbershops. At
Speaker 4: the end of the night, when I'm working on with right,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in. I go in the back after
Speaker 4: we sit down and we chat. What brothers were saying
Speaker 4: to me is what you say, I don't even know
Speaker 4: the starting point of trying to find a job. I
Speaker 4: don't even know, like how do I begin, you know, like,
Speaker 4: what is this thing about resume?
Speaker 2: What is all that?
Speaker 4: So what we did we created something called hiring halls.
Speaker 4: With Henry Garrito, the head of the d C thirty seventh,
Speaker 4: we said, why do why do why do folks have
Speaker 4: to come to us? Why aren't we going to them?
Speaker 4: We now go into the community, bring all the jobs
Speaker 4: out are available, and we have people come in and
Speaker 4: we walked them through the process and you see, you
Speaker 4: got like eight hundred right, it's even better than the
Speaker 4: job there because we're finding out everything that you need,
Speaker 4: like what's going on with exactly you know? And because
Speaker 4: you're right, we would The old model was if you
Speaker 4: don't come down.
Speaker 5: And feel like this job application.
Speaker 4: I was like asking people, like, you know, y're paying
Speaker 4: all these recruiters, why aren't they people coming in? So
Speaker 4: we had to go to folks. Man, you got to
Speaker 4: meet people where they are. You can't meet people where
Speaker 4: you are, you know, you got to meet people where
Speaker 4: they are. And so I went down to the job
Speaker 4: fair that was in HALLMN the other day and there
Speaker 4: was about a bunch of brothers standing outside talking and
Speaker 4: they were afraid to walk inside the building. I'm telling
Speaker 4: you black men are beat down so much. Brother, They
Speaker 4: were so afraid to walk inside the building. So when
Speaker 4: I was going back to my car, I caught them
Speaker 4: in in the corner of my eye and I told
Speaker 4: my crew, so hold on for one moment, and I
Speaker 4: went over to to talk to the brothers. I said,
Speaker 4: you know what's happening. They said, well, we you know,
Speaker 4: we we you know, we know they're doing jobs in there.
Speaker 4: But I don't think we could go in. I've had
Speaker 4: some problem in my life. I said, no, it's not. Man,
Speaker 4: come on, we walking here together. You're gonna walk in
Speaker 4: with me and folks gonna give you the services that
Speaker 4: that you want. I gotta be substantive, but I gotta
Speaker 4: be symbolic. People need to believe again. They no longer believe,
Speaker 4: you know, they need to believe this. This ball headed,
Speaker 4: air ring wearing dyslexic arrested, rejected.
Speaker 5: He's now elected to be all mayor.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I mean that means the man God is good man.
Speaker 2: That's the hardest job. I'mna be honest.
Speaker 4: But but but if I do it right, it elevates us.
Speaker 4: It elevates us. If I do this right, it elevates
Speaker 4: us because nobody thought. Listen, God could have made me
Speaker 4: the mayor have some small town somewhere. He made me
Speaker 4: the mayor of the most important city on the globe.
Speaker 5: Country.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a country smaller than you.
Speaker 4: Aut like you doing this show man, you know your
Speaker 4: life you're talking about not only not only are you
Speaker 4: mentally sound, but you you talk health, You take care
Speaker 4: of your body.
Speaker 2: You you you're on the street, you're articulating issue.
Speaker 4: You doing this show here, Listen, all of us are
Speaker 4: gonna stumble.
Speaker 5: You can't be a black man and not stumbled in America.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: But if we come together and and and and show
Speaker 4: how Because as you said, Democrat is trying to be
Speaker 4: so politically correct. They're trying to say everything right. You
Speaker 4: know that nobody believes in them anymore, and we need
Speaker 4: to just be authentic.
Speaker 2: Take the partisan out of it.
Speaker 6: I think that's a problem as well, because that's almost
Speaker 6: that's gay, that's a bloods and crips, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying mentality as well, Like we just all need
Speaker 6: to work for the parties of the politicians, to work
Speaker 6: for the people, all people, not whether it's blue or
Speaker 6: red or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think it's hard.
Speaker 3: I think what you're saying is more more theoretical than actual,
Speaker 3: because you got to get a base in order for
Speaker 3: everybody has to have their base of people to get
Speaker 3: fundamentally exactly fundamental. So what I'm saying is appeal to
Speaker 3: the people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: A long as you appeal to the people, I don't
Speaker 3: care what color you because I'm I don't care about
Speaker 3: the partisan ship.
Speaker 2: No more like that shit is old for me. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that.
Speaker 3: Listen, if you talking about the issues, if you are
Speaker 3: ready to promise me and guarantee that you're going to
Speaker 3: do everything possible to address the issues and the needs
Speaker 3: of the communities that I come from directly, then that's
Speaker 3: the person for me. Other than that, then I don't
Speaker 3: see I don't see the need for that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change the subject of lighten it up a little.
Speaker 4: That first of all, brother, what the message of the
Speaker 4: success must get to the people. That's right, we have
Speaker 4: some good stuff and when people do when people my
Speaker 4: son said the other day, or we were talking about this,
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that my team here, I didn't know
Speaker 4: that people don't know how much we're doing and that's
Speaker 4: a coordinative effort of not getting that down.
Speaker 5: And so we need to sit down with you and.
Speaker 4: Others and figure out how do we know people the
Speaker 4: accessibility like our hiring halls. We need to get on
Speaker 4: the street because I'm out handing our pamphlets to people.
Speaker 4: I'm walking through Nicha, walking through the community. But if
Speaker 4: they're better, better methods like this that you say, Eric, here, look,
Speaker 4: this is a good method.
Speaker 2: So we could get this down. We can walk the
Speaker 2: streets together.
Speaker 3: That's to me and I wanted to have with you
Speaker 3: because because murder, for me is everything else is incentive used,
Speaker 3: publicized and marketing like murder to our community as who's
Speaker 3: marketing the positivity, who's showing the quote unquote real gangsters
Speaker 3: that's stopping the violence in the Community's showing the people
Speaker 3: that's putting us on the right path. Right, So if
Speaker 3: we do, if we don't put the same amount of
Speaker 3: money that they or not, because we know that they're
Speaker 3: gonna put way more money. But if we don't, we
Speaker 3: don't got billboards showing the leaders in our community that's
Speaker 3: doing this, and we ain't on the radio stations showing
Speaker 3: leaders that's doing positive.
Speaker 2: But we ain't got the leaders in.
Speaker 3: Our communities doing positive stuff at Summer Jam and all
Speaker 3: of those those places, then our kids gonna think the
Speaker 3: only way to win is to do negative doing some
Speaker 3: drill ship.
Speaker 2: D's know. That's what it's about. We got to market more,
Speaker 2: light up the situation a little bit.
Speaker 1: But this is like conversation.
Speaker 4: And look, let me tell yourself that matth I enjoy
Speaker 4: so much to be able to and and and and
Speaker 4: just be among us us and have real conversations. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Bill Deblosio would not have flown
Speaker 4: in Miami and sit here and you.
Speaker 5: Know, having a drink. It's just junking.
Speaker 4: This is this is an oppertunity we need to capitalize on.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We be able to have real, authentic talk with each other.
Speaker 4: So this is this is what we're doing the barbershops.
Speaker 1: Man, it's beautiful. So we and drink chance. We have
Speaker 1: a famous story. Yes, our director, his name is Rosta
Speaker 1: from the Caribbe. My friend Sunny D came to his
Speaker 1: room one night. He's a vegan. He came to his
Speaker 1: room one night. He caught it with a shrimp pizza.
Speaker 2: Listen listen, you're not wrong. We heard you be fifth
Speaker 2: feet if street.
Speaker 1: I forgive you my brother because I fish tree sandwich.
Speaker 1: He had some type of ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm.
Speaker 1: So when they said they caught the mail with a
Speaker 1: fish salence and said you gotta forgive them, depended on what.
Speaker 2: Do we forgive Roster for having a strip?
Speaker 4: You know, first of all, it's not what he does.
Speaker 4: It's not what he does but a day. It's what
Speaker 4: he does every day, every day. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5: I woke up. I don't know what year that was.
Speaker 5: DJ I woke up.
Speaker 4: I couldn't see the alarm clock and uh, I thought
Speaker 4: it was sleeping my eyes. I kept blinking it. It
Speaker 4: wouldn't go away. Uh. I decide, you know, black man, man,
Speaker 4: you got a dragons to the doctor. I was having
Speaker 4: a pain in my stomach. I thought it was I
Speaker 4: had colon cancer because it wouldn't move. It wasn't like
Speaker 4: gas moving around. I said, let me get my ass
Speaker 4: to the doctor. I get to the doctor. He does
Speaker 4: a he checks my colon, checked my stomach. I came
Speaker 4: out of sedation. He says, Eric, you have an altar,
Speaker 4: he said, but your real issues, your diabetes. You're gonna
Speaker 4: lose your sight in the year damn. And he says,
Speaker 4: you're gonna lose My fingers and toes were tingling all
Speaker 4: the time. He said, you know that's permanent nerve damage.
Speaker 4: You're gonna lose some fingers and toes. And he says
Speaker 4: that you know, it's not much you could we could do.
Speaker 4: And I went, that's how it was. You Then it
Speaker 4: was about six seven years ago, well six seven years ago,
Speaker 4: and I decided, Man, I went home, you know, God
Speaker 4: is you know the ancestors speak to us. And they
Speaker 4: gave me these pamphlets said living with diabetes. I had
Speaker 4: advanced stage diabetes. Your A one C should be five
Speaker 4: point six eight is you know COMA level. I was thirteen,
Speaker 4: you know, and the doctor told me that.
Speaker 2: I went on.
Speaker 4: They gave me these pamphlets and said living with diabetes,
Speaker 4: and I changed one word, one word reversing diabetes instead
Speaker 4: of living with diabetes. I said, I typed in reversing
Speaker 4: diabetes Google. All this stuff came up, and that's how
Speaker 4: I got on this journey. Your plant based it came
Speaker 4: up to show you know, it's not our DNA, man,
Speaker 4: it's our dinner man, we don't. You don't inherit these
Speaker 4: diseases because your parents had it.
Speaker 2: You inherit these diseases because the same ship a seat,
Speaker 2: you know, like everybody on the blockhead does, because you love.
Speaker 4: I loved so when I go back to my brother.
Speaker 4: And so it's not about being perfect. This is about saying,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, you know what, let me just monify
Speaker 4: some stuff. Let me make sure I eat at least,
Speaker 4: let me get a nice salad in at least, let
Speaker 4: me make sure I get that water.
Speaker 2: At least.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna eat steak every night.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: It's about let me modify my stuff based on what
Speaker 4: health issue I'm going through.
Speaker 2: And that's that modification. I went plant based.
Speaker 4: Three weeks later my vision came back, you know, six
Speaker 4: seven months later, all the nerve damage went away. I
Speaker 4: don't even when elsa. I don't even feel the ulsa anymore,
Speaker 4: no medicine, you know. So you know, if I feel like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I want a pizza with shrimps on it,
Speaker 4: you damn night, I'm gonna eat.
Speaker 1: It all right, listen, but listen also a yeah a
Speaker 1: while too. You know he's a prescantarier, right, there.
Speaker 2: With the glasses.
Speaker 1: But I've also heard that one night they ate ham
Speaker 1: one pizza.
Speaker 2: You told me.
Speaker 9: You around and said he went back, he went back,
Speaker 9: and you apposted you to like, hey man, be holding down.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm doing it out there. That it's
Speaker 2: a lot of y'all you got. We have some flowers.
Speaker 2: We got some flowers.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 1: Our show was about giving people the flowers. I have
Speaker 1: never I am born and raised from New York City.
Speaker 1: I if you take me right now. You told me
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, you told me in anywhere else and
Speaker 1: say that this is where you're gonna be born from,
Speaker 1: I'm going to refuse it. I mean anywhere, not just
Speaker 1: because I said little and you laughed, and I know
Speaker 1: how this ship goes.
Speaker 2: Over there. My dad me, I'm born and raised from
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: John Singleton was my friend before you know, passed away.
Speaker 1: And I sat down with John Singleton and I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: can you put me in snowfall? He looked at me
Speaker 1: and said you will never be in snowfall? And I said, damn,
Speaker 1: Like I thought we were friends. Like he's like your
Speaker 1: New York accents makes you limited to wherever you go,
Speaker 1: and I was like fuck, And I didn't know that
Speaker 1: at the time. He kept it real with me, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, fuck, it doesn't matter if I
Speaker 1: moved to Saudi Arabia, to Dubai to Monico. I keep flustering,
Speaker 1: rightbut because speaking, you know what, they're going to tell me.
Speaker 1: You're a New York person. And I will die being
Speaker 1: an New York person. And I will live my life,
Speaker 1: loving life knowing I'm a New York person. A jog
Speaker 1: and people see me and they look at me and
Speaker 1: they say, you're from New York because the way I
Speaker 1: job is from New York, the way I walk around
Speaker 1: in the barbershop, they know I'm from New York. The
Speaker 1: way I motherfucking tied my sneakers. They know I'm from
Speaker 1: New York. And I would be with miss what something
Speaker 1: on me?
Speaker 2: As something? My haircut? Yeah, my haircut is from New York.
Speaker 9: My dog.
Speaker 2: Twenty five years Listen, listen. I was one of the
Speaker 2: ball community and I left the ball community. They don't
Speaker 2: like it. As me and looking at all these ball
Speaker 2: motherfucker they don't like it. They don't like it.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, wait a minute. And then and they
Speaker 1: didn't even realize I wasn't ball.
Speaker 2: I just liked my head low. My wife made me
Speaker 2: grow my air.
Speaker 1: She's over there.
Speaker 2: It's very true.
Speaker 1: But sir, but sir, you are not only mayor of
Speaker 1: the most important city.
Speaker 2: You are mayor of the city.
Speaker 1: When they defied any city in the world, they defied
Speaker 1: based upon New York. And we would be remorse to
Speaker 1: not give you. Miss Listen, I'm a dyslexic. Okay, Flowers,
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, yes, it's better than the Grammy because
Speaker 1: it's come for and you know we invited my my
Speaker 1: son is our brother. He and listen, Boycott murder is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest things I can ever see. So
Speaker 1: you know, we have never gave a guest host Flowers,
Speaker 1: but we want to give my song his.
Speaker 2: And this whole thing is about us coming together, you know.
Speaker 1: And if and you, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
Speaker 1: let you be an honorary New Yorker tonight. Let me
Speaker 1: be an honorary Miamian every night.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you be.
Speaker 1: An honorary New Yorker this night, even though you should,
Speaker 1: we want your time. Come on, look look at my
Speaker 1: song being you know, you got some great man.
Speaker 2: We wanted you to talk. But let me just tell
Speaker 2: you something.
Speaker 1: I think the dialogue, what we've been speaking about is
Speaker 1: making our city greater. And being from the Bronx, being
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, moving to Queens, me being you know, from
Speaker 1: Queens with a lot of relations to the Bronx, none
Speaker 1: of them. I feel like the Bronx is coming up
Speaker 1: now man and everything now jee daniss yo, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can get a cheese.
Speaker 2: Dat we got is real.
Speaker 4: We gotta be careful that it doesn't come up and
Speaker 4: we lose the people who were there.
Speaker 1: The gentrification, right, we talked aboutification, Yes, yes, we got
Speaker 1: You don't get gentification is good sometimes I do.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's what Diversity is good. Displacement is not,
Speaker 4: you know. And so there, folks, the Bronx we got,
Speaker 4: we got it wrong in other boroughs. We got to
Speaker 4: get it right in the Bronx and other process. It's
Speaker 4: South to make a Queens shops, to make a Queens
Speaker 4: there's a lot of building going on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I'm being honest indual for
Speaker 1: one second. I went to Brooklyn in the nineties and
Speaker 1: I'll go to soho house in Brooklyn, I get a
Speaker 1: little better.
Speaker 2: I like the people that live there in Brooklyn before
Speaker 2: talking about people in Fort Green.
Speaker 1: I can't relate to the people that was already in
Speaker 1: Williamsburg that I didn't know prior to that anyway, So
Speaker 1: is that a difference, because I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did that sound a little crazy?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know what I'm saying. Is I
Speaker 2: related to the people in Fort Green.
Speaker 1: I related to the people in a farragant, but I
Speaker 1: didn't relate to the people that was across from there
Speaker 1: that they digied as well, right right, right?
Speaker 5: So no, So here's the movement. This is what we're
Speaker 5: doing when we're building now.
Speaker 4: Is that you if you are like we did a
Speaker 4: project Willi's point, you know, we're changing Willi's point. We're
Speaker 4: building twenty five hundred units of affordable housing, one hundred
Speaker 4: percent of affordable housing, union jobs, a new school of
Speaker 4: open space. You remember how Willis's point was, you know,
Speaker 4: for all those years. So as we're building now, we're said, listen,
Speaker 4: we got to make sure that people who are building
Speaker 4: can afford to stay in the city, you know, because
Speaker 4: we were imaging black and brown people from the city
Speaker 4: of New York. We're saying, listen, folks got to stay
Speaker 4: in the city so it could be you could develop
Speaker 4: without displacing.
Speaker 3: I want to say one question. The young kids in Colombia,
Speaker 3: Columbia Columbia College right now, bring up they've actually been
Speaker 3: protesting against the war in Gaza, and I seem like
Speaker 3: one hundred and eight of them were arrested in right, Like,
Speaker 3: do we think that's okay that the kids are being arrested?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think where is where this whole
Speaker 4: issue we can't for people want to forget what happened
Speaker 4: October seventh was real and a lot of people I
Speaker 4: think with the big mistake that people are not doing
Speaker 4: is showing what really happened there. We're reading about it,
Speaker 4: that's one thing, but if you see the actual what
Speaker 4: happened there to innocent people. Those are people who had
Speaker 4: a that was a peace concert that was saying we
Speaker 4: want to fight to tear down the wall so the
Speaker 4: Palestinians and Israelis can give together. I mean, to go
Speaker 4: there and cut off someone's breasts and use it as
Speaker 4: a football to rape and to I mean, I mean,
Speaker 4: it was so inhumane when you look at a documentary
Speaker 4: they didn't even want to show people because of.
Speaker 3: I want to just give a little pushback. There has
Speaker 3: never been any confirmed rapes. I know that the murders
Speaker 3: have happened, but there has not been any yet confirmed rape.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying that right there, there's never been
Speaker 3: any footage or any documentation of that.
Speaker 2: Even let me just finish.
Speaker 3: Even if President stepped back and said, I haven't actually
Speaker 3: seen these things and I'm talking all right, So he
Speaker 3: said that, So for what I'm saying, we're at the
Speaker 3: stage now where almost forty thousand people have been so
Speaker 3: that's pretty much that's called collective punishment, right, and the
Speaker 3: majority of them are babies and women.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So if we having a conversation because I've heard you
Speaker 3: say that, I heard you somebody say, hey, you want
Speaker 3: to end the genesis of this that you said give
Speaker 3: back the hostages, and I thought that was I didn't
Speaker 3: think that was the statement to make, knowing that you
Speaker 3: have constituents who are Palestinians, right, you have constituents.
Speaker 4: Disagree, but didn't look at the history view. Let's let's
Speaker 4: view a person from their totality. Two thousand and one
Speaker 4: nine eleven happens. They started rounding up young Muslims and Palestinians.
Speaker 4: I went to Palestinians, Muslims and others and say this
Speaker 4: is wrong what they doing to these young men. I
Speaker 4: went to thirty first Street and Third Avenue and had
Speaker 4: a press conference. I couldn't get one Muslim to.
Speaker 2: Stand with me.
Speaker 4: I was by myself women with being attacked for wearing
Speaker 4: he jobs in the city. I rounded up and say
Speaker 4: we need to stop these women from being attacked. I
Speaker 4: went to march with them to do so. I couldn't
Speaker 4: get Muslim leaders to march with me to do so.
Speaker 4: At the largest protest, when Donald Trump said the Muslim
Speaker 4: band at brooklyn Borough Hall with the Jiminese community to
Speaker 4: push you back against it, these Muslims leaders say, listen,
Speaker 4: y'all can say which I want. This guy has been
Speaker 4: with us since two thousand and one. I'm consistent across
Speaker 4: across the board. When people things happen to people, I'm
Speaker 4: going to speak out against it. It's not about anti
Speaker 4: Palestinian pro but I.
Speaker 3: Just don't I think the Palestinian community doesn't believe that
Speaker 3: you you speak up or against to collective punishment and
Speaker 3: murder of baby and children in Palestine right now.
Speaker 2: Because I disagree with you. I've heard you.
Speaker 3: I heard you Vietmaly say what happened on October seventh
Speaker 3: was an issue. I heard you say for sending home
Speaker 3: to hostages, but I have yet to hear you say, hey,
Speaker 3: we need to stop this war.
Speaker 2: These kids are being killed senselessly, these women are being killed.
Speaker 4: I'm more than ones brother that no, no, no child
Speaker 4: should be dying because of the action as a man.
Speaker 5: But let's be let's be consistent about this right now.
Speaker 4: And Yemen, Muslims are killing babies against each other. And Yemen,
Speaker 4: and I've been calling for years we need to stop
Speaker 4: this wall Yemen and Lebanon, husband Lah is bombing and
Speaker 4: killing innocent people in Husbilan in Nigeria, a group of
Speaker 4: Muslim terrorists kidnapped over one hundred black girls, took them
Speaker 4: from their families, and I stood up at Borough Hall
Speaker 4: and said, listen, we shouldn't be doing this to these girls.
Speaker 4: So we can't all of a sudden find this energy
Speaker 4: to talk about one act. I'm saying globally, we should
Speaker 4: not be doing this. And so I haven't heard these
Speaker 4: groups who are now running on the streets. Now we're
Speaker 4: with them. When those Nigerian girls were kidnapped, they weren't.
Speaker 2: Staying with me.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of them probably didn't know, like a
Speaker 3: lot of there's a lot of information, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: even know what's going on in Congo too recently, right
Speaker 3: as a black man. So when you start realizing what's
Speaker 3: going on in the Congo and you start realizing what
Speaker 3: happened in Haiti, all of these things, then you're focused
Speaker 3: on them. But I'm just saying right now, when we
Speaker 3: when we're looking at videos of babies just being blown up,
Speaker 3: playing games, playing hopscotch right like this, these are things
Speaker 3: that literally happen. This is not like something we think of.
Speaker 3: So I think just the humane part of us to say, hey,
Speaker 3: that needs to stop.
Speaker 4: And Bro said that more than ones and stop. The
Speaker 4: fastest way to stop that Hamas is a terrorist. Or
Speaker 4: if you were in Israel when they did that, brother,
Speaker 4: they would have killed.
Speaker 2: You, And I understand that.
Speaker 3: But my thing is this, if they would have killed me,
Speaker 3: it doesn't that has nothing to do with those babies
Speaker 3: and a woman. So that's what I'm trying to say. Okay,
Speaker 3: So that's the issue that everybody's having. No one is
Speaker 3: denying what happened on.
Speaker 2: October seventh was a horrific situation.
Speaker 3: No one in the world is going to say anything
Speaker 3: else except for the people who probably did it.
Speaker 2: But everyone else is saying.
Speaker 3: At this point, almost forty thousand people, mainly women and children,
Speaker 3: are dying that if the humanity and our leaders can't say, Okay,
Speaker 3: we need to stop this. If you're trying to get
Speaker 3: Hamas and you need to figure out a strategy that
Speaker 3: you go in and get the people who did what
Speaker 3: they're supposed to do, but killing babies and women every day,
Speaker 3: it's just not It.
Speaker 2: Would only perpetuate it for situation. And I don't I
Speaker 2: don't listen. I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 4: But but first of all, I'm very delicate about using
Speaker 4: the term everybody, because there's no such thing as everybody.
Speaker 4: There is everybody, there's not a monolithic view on everything.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, you know.
Speaker 4: So you know, you had a group of people that
Speaker 4: was on the training of the day chanting Harmas is
Speaker 4: our hero, Harmas is our hero.
Speaker 3: In New York City, New York City. That's a terrible thing.
Speaker 3: But you don't you don't see how that's being created. No,
Speaker 3: you don't see how the narrative is being created, right,
Speaker 3: because what happens is it's like anything else when you
Speaker 3: start seeing people or get something these people are it's
Speaker 3: meant is a mental illness.
Speaker 2: At some point, I agree that was a mental illness,
Speaker 2: and I agree.
Speaker 3: This is this is how what what was happening right
Speaker 3: now is this isuation is creating terrorists, people that didn't
Speaker 3: know anything. I'm watching. There's levels of anger that people
Speaker 3: are like damn on both sides. Basic we as as leadership, right, well,
Speaker 3: we have to be able to say is like this
Speaker 3: ship needs to stop.
Speaker 4: And we don't disagree. Brother, everyone everyone right. And I've
Speaker 4: been I think everyone and listened. I've been in Palestine.
Speaker 4: I sat down with Palistine and leaders. I've been in Israel.
Speaker 4: I sat down with Israeli elitist And if we believe
Speaker 4: this battle that has been going on, I mean since
Speaker 4: the days of Solomon and Gomarra, you know, if we
Speaker 4: believe the mayor of the City of New York is
Speaker 4: going to resolve that. Yeah, So I'm saying no innocent
Speaker 4: child should die. But I'm also not in support of
Speaker 4: someone the the First of all, hostages who have been
Speaker 4: released talked about being raped. But if something like that
Speaker 4: happens on October seventh and people are on the street
Speaker 4: cheering and celebrating on October.
Speaker 2: Eighth, that's in humane. It isn't human. That's in humane.
Speaker 4: That's you can talk about your battle of free and
Speaker 4: Palestine and Gaza without looking at someone that's in the
Speaker 4: pain of devastation in the morning and celebrate that. That's
Speaker 4: that's not healthy. And that is what I denounced. I
Speaker 4: denounced innocent children dying.
Speaker 2: And there's a.
Speaker 4: Record from my entire life of talking about what's playing
Speaker 4: out across the globe.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it doesn't come across that way. When somebody says
Speaker 3: the innocent kish and dying, you say free to hostages.
Speaker 4: That wasn't That wasn't That was my I'm very consistent.
Speaker 4: There's one thing people people can say.
Speaker 3: That's a video that I've seen online that God was like,
Speaker 3: stop the genesize stuff, and you walked up to him
Speaker 3: and said free to hostages and walked off.
Speaker 5: Right they listen. I'm very consistent in my message.
Speaker 4: I said on October seventh, destroy Hermas and free the hostages.
Speaker 5: I said on October thirtieth, January February. I'm the same.
Speaker 4: I'm the same. Now, one can say, Wellever, I don't
Speaker 4: agree with you. You have that right my post.
Speaker 2: I don't. It's not that I don't. I don't talk
Speaker 2: about you, and I don't agree with that statement.
Speaker 3: When someone is saying stop genisized, stop killing innocent baby
Speaker 3: this and your response to that is free to hostages,
Speaker 3: You're you're making it seem that is justified. As long
Speaker 3: as the hostages are there, we can kill as many
Speaker 3: people possible as long as you have hostage. That's not
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, but that's what it said. First, you say,
Speaker 3: first of all, make that.
Speaker 4: If someone if someone, if someone takes a clip and
Speaker 4: they omit what they've been saying, No.
Speaker 2: They didn't omit. It was a full clip. There wasn't
Speaker 2: there wasn't no sound.
Speaker 4: First of all, the people are saying, we want you
Speaker 4: to say this specifically, but they're doing that to every day,
Speaker 4: doing it on both sides though. That's not and that's
Speaker 4: why I don't play that. Okay, So listen, First of all,
Speaker 4: this is I'm a big believer, and when I think
Speaker 4: this would answer it altogether, I was angry as hell
Speaker 4: when I couldn't get Muslim leaders to stand with me
Speaker 4: in two thousand and one when these young men were
Speaker 4: being rounded up. I was angry when I couldn't get
Speaker 4: them to stand with me. When women were being attacked
Speaker 4: for wearing the he job. I was angry over and
Speaker 4: over again. But I said to myself in my time
Speaker 4: of reflection, Eric, you don't have the right to judge people.
Speaker 5: God judges.
Speaker 4: Anyone that's in that street right now that think they're
Speaker 4: going to judge me, then they don't believe in the
Speaker 4: religion they say they believe in my anger?
Speaker 2: Can I judge you? God judges, I don't judge you.
Speaker 2: I got to live my life.
Speaker 4: And so if people saying whatever, do you just say
Speaker 4: this sentence the way you want, that's your problem.
Speaker 5: That's not my problem. I'm judged by God.
Speaker 3: I just say that you have constituents, brother Helstonians and
Speaker 3: Muslim I do.
Speaker 2: And I think that the same way.
Speaker 3: You've been very vocal, because I've heard you very vocal
Speaker 3: say what happened on October seventh. I've heard you seen
Speaker 3: you in situations denouncing those situations all the time, and
Speaker 3: I've never heard you be vocal about the else and
Speaker 3: that babies and kids who dying.
Speaker 2: That's not true. I just haven't seen it right now.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, Palestinian, the loudest is not the majority.
Speaker 4: Palestinian leaders support me, Muslims leaders support me, Ayrabs support me.
Speaker 4: So just because the loudest is saying something that's not
Speaker 4: the majority and so booing to me, yelling at me,
Speaker 4: cursing at me, I just told you have to beginning
Speaker 4: of this program, I walked in the classroom and I
Speaker 4: was yelled boo, tease, Listen.
Speaker 2: Is that all they got?
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta come to me more than calling
Speaker 4: me names and booing me and calling me this and that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna live my life based on the principles that
Speaker 4: I've always had. I believe I'm authentic and I'm going
Speaker 4: to live my life the way my mother wanted.
Speaker 2: Me to live, and not everybody's gonna agree with that.
Speaker 2: You think everybody agree with you?
Speaker 3: No, like you said, I'm fine with it, and I
Speaker 3: staying ten toes down to anything I said, low with it.
Speaker 5: So why would I be like you?
Speaker 2: You should?
Speaker 3: But I'm always going to ask a question, especially right
Speaker 3: when something goes against my moral compass, and I feel
Speaker 3: like it's not okay, like as a human being, and
Speaker 3: certain things that I'm okay, I was, I wasn't okay
Speaker 3: what happened on October seventh. I don't condone any of that, right,
Speaker 3: but just watch constantly, watching babies and kids die every day.
Speaker 3: It's just not okay with me, and I think that everyone.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be okay with everyone. And I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: that absolute. There's no there's no human being of good
Speaker 3: moral compass that should be okay watching babies and kids
Speaker 3: die every day.
Speaker 2: And somebody say, I don't care, We're just gonna keep
Speaker 2: killing them. It's just nobody.
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. I don't think we should
Speaker 4: kill children and babies. I'm with you, I'm with you,
Speaker 4: But I also don't support those who are saying Hamas.
Speaker 2: Is a hero. Oh you should. I get that.
Speaker 4: And there's a whole body those same people who are
Speaker 4: sticking the mic in my face and saying we want
Speaker 4: you to say this the exact that way, are saying
Speaker 4: Hamas is the hero.
Speaker 2: Those are not.
Speaker 5: First of all, I don't even respect them. I don't
Speaker 5: respect them.
Speaker 4: And what you'll find is that what I say in
Speaker 4: one setting in the boardroom is what I say sitting
Speaker 4: on the block.
Speaker 2: I'm consistent in what I say.
Speaker 4: You go over my you go over my life, and
Speaker 4: you're going to see someone did a whole story on
Speaker 4: me and they said, this guy's been saying the same
Speaker 4: belief You know, he has not waived off his beliefs.
Speaker 2: So I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't have a political comment that I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: if I'm around a bunch of white folks, or if
Speaker 4: I'm around a bunch of black folks, or around the
Speaker 4: Muslims of Christians.
Speaker 2: I'm the same person. Brother.
Speaker 4: You take speech after speech, comment after comment, and you're
Speaker 4: going to say what he said in his private room
Speaker 4: is what he said in public.
Speaker 2: Because I gotta live in myself. I mean, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm lost. I'm like kem Pill.
Speaker 1: When I see certain people, I gast certain people with
Speaker 1: certain files. People get to God five turn, people get done.
Speaker 2: You know you told me to take it back when
Speaker 2: he told me we gotta shot out Underdog. I'm going
Speaker 2: to make sure everybody downloads under.
Speaker 6: What we got Underdog Fantasy app use the code drink
Speaker 6: Champs or drink or Champs Drink or champ and get
Speaker 6: massive to one hundred dollars on the damn let's.
Speaker 2: Go under dog shouts under the dog. Fans following me
Speaker 2: under the Dog. I'm gonna be honest. You should just
Speaker 2: stick with me.
Speaker 7: Drink chands, Army Underdog Fantasy ad.
Speaker 1: Underdoor Fantasy Fantasy, get your one hundred dollars, go drinks
Speaker 1: or chance put in one hundred dollars will match you
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: We mentioned come ahead for this.
Speaker 1: Listen, we go plake Kirk Thomas Lime, Well, we're still
Speaker 1: doing that. Kick Thomas Lin listen because you are the
Speaker 1: first political, fully political individual constituent that we ever had
Speaker 1: on here. So if we don't play Kreek Thomas, everybody's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be like you took a light in a man.
Speaker 2: So we can't. We can't do that. But you don't
Speaker 2: have to drink. You're gonna have somebody you can sit
Speaker 2: drink a.
Speaker 1: Drink, or you could pick somebody else around here.
Speaker 2: Mike, so on, you're gonna drink with us too. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna drink with you.
Speaker 1: You got your shots shot glasses, okay, so hold on,
Speaker 1: you want to start it off, so finally know in
Speaker 1: New York City mayor Jesus.
Speaker 6: This, We're gonna give you two choices. If you pick one,
Speaker 6: nobody drinks. Nobody drinks at the table. But if you
Speaker 6: say both or neither, which would be the politically correct
Speaker 6: answer because you don't want to pick one of them,
Speaker 6: then we all take a shot.
Speaker 3: Every single person. You have to fine, cool, We're gonna
Speaker 3: have to drink inside before see some point you should
Speaker 3: have your yeah. Yeah, I'm going to killa too.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, so we're just gonna go ahead and
Speaker 2: then you drink if we have to. Biden or Trump? Okay, okay, and.
Speaker 6: Any stories you have with anybody we mentioned, please by
Speaker 6: all chance, but.
Speaker 2: You know bid, they gotta start running the presidential I'm
Speaker 2: throwing it off.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want me to some what be
Speaker 1: a Democrat like play the party every president besides you
Speaker 1: had that.
Speaker 2: You go with with the downgrade of it. I'm very simple.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry judging them for the wrong thing. I'm a
Speaker 2: very indicator. I'm just.
Speaker 5: Where are you going, TUPAC or d m X. I'm
Speaker 5: a Tupac guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, where does that come from? Like, what's the history
Speaker 2: of you're listening to? Pot?
Speaker 4: I was part of an organization called the National Black
Speaker 4: United Front. Reverend Herbert Daughtry and others in Tupac's mom
Speaker 4: were affiliated with it, and his music is just real.
Speaker 2: I respect that you got it. I got this one.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of scared. Jay Z or notas Jays. I
Speaker 2: gotta go with Jay jay D. I thought he would
Speaker 2: have been New York. I said both. You should have.
Speaker 1: Said, Damn can I can I come down? This is
Speaker 1: this is going to fuck up the internet. So I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. You gotta answer this. No, it's no correct answer.
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar or Drake.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say both.
Speaker 2: Politically correct. That is a political correct answer. Ja Cole
Speaker 2: or Kanye West Ja Cole. Okay, no, nobody drinks. He
Speaker 2: picked it. Podcast radio.
Speaker 5: Podcasts, long version. You know able to really dig into
Speaker 5: a podcast?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 2: Damn Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 5: I gotta go with Dave Man.
Speaker 2: I respect that.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Mex and Martin Luther King gotta go both.
Speaker 2: They both did.
Speaker 1: He's trying to kill us. Okay, I want this one.
Speaker 1: Go go Michael Jackson or Prince.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I'm gonna go with Michael. The only reason why.
Speaker 4: He's when you think about it, Michael really started the
Speaker 4: whole video stuff.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 5: Michael.
Speaker 4: I remember reading the first story and he was talking
Speaker 4: about he's gonna do his music and turn it into
Speaker 4: this visual and now look at it.
Speaker 2: He made movies movie. It wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 5: All right, Tyson or Ali Ali?
Speaker 2: Okay, you're trying to get in there, all of them drinks?
Speaker 2: What you past them down here? M O P or
Speaker 2: morb d MA D Okay, we gotta we gotta keep
Speaker 2: going a couple more. That's all right, Jesus, because I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Of Brooklyn or Queens, Brooklyn, Queens, New York City or Miami.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted. I wanted to say, everybody here from
Speaker 2: New York. That's right, Miami is New York Barrow.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, it's the five barrows in this long island,
Speaker 1: and New Jersey makes the sixth Borough and then the
Speaker 1: seventh Borough. Only people from New York because y'all be
Speaker 1: claiming us too from bro Come on, you know we
Speaker 1: be the coolest people on the planet.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: But by the way, right before we finished the quick
Speaker 1: time of Slope Brom New York.
Speaker 2: For anybody that's not from New York. I apologize for
Speaker 2: the segment, but.
Speaker 1: When they say if you can make it here, you
Speaker 1: can make it anywhere, they're not lying.
Speaker 2: I think everybody could agree with that.
Speaker 1: New York is, Bobby one of the roughest, toughest, richest
Speaker 1: bous Wazi.
Speaker 2: Cities in the world.
Speaker 1: You can get robbed on one block and turn around
Speaker 1: and have an elegant fuck wall.
Speaker 2: Mill with the cavia on the next.
Speaker 1: And guess what you feel beautiful about it to get
Speaker 1: the right part, I'm not on that part, sir. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that didn't happen. But New York City is one
Speaker 1: of the is the greatest city on the planet. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for people who are probably going to tune into
Speaker 1: this and that they wanted me to say one of
Speaker 1: the greatest cities, And no, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that claim.
Speaker 2: I want to say the truth. It is the greatest
Speaker 2: city on the planet. It is the biggest city on
Speaker 2: the planet. I've been to.
Speaker 1: Tokyo, cool, I've been to all these other places.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: There's no place like New York City. I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck.
Speaker 2: Don't that.
Speaker 1: From I don't care where you go Miamis.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very close. But just like there's a distinctive.
Speaker 1: Experience when you come to Miami and it's pretty much
Speaker 1: horny people. Right, What's it's like if you love Miami
Speaker 1: kind of like a horny guy? Right, you was on
Speaker 1: the New York and love New York and not be horny.
Speaker 1: It's true, like you would just be on the you
Speaker 1: would just love it.
Speaker 2: It's horny people love Miami. Just be honest description you want.
Speaker 1: I told you my citizen, my citizens, I'm just like
Speaker 1: Resource Room Virgo very well New York City. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. It was a record label. My
Speaker 1: song is signed to the same way as I'm signed to.
Speaker 1: It was called Violated. It was on one sixty Barick Street.
Speaker 1: So Chris Lighty was alive Classic and we were talking
Speaker 1: about programs earlier and he was, yeah, I was back
Speaker 1: and forth a by the programs earlier. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what programs were I would like to invest in.
Speaker 1: I would like to invest in whatever program that my
Speaker 1: song has or whatever program that Patpoos has, right, yeh, yep,
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you one thing. The program that
Speaker 1: we didn't realize that saved us, that helped save me
Speaker 1: and you was record labels. Was us hanging out in
Speaker 1: the record labels they replaced the parks We went and
Speaker 1: we understood that we were collecting sixty thousand dollars by
Speaker 1: hanging out on the record label.
Speaker 2: And the thing was, we didn't.
Speaker 1: Realize it was our savior was because a lot of
Speaker 1: these people were still under the.
Speaker 2: What was it called the three sixty mentality.
Speaker 1: But imagine like, that's what I love what Pat Post
Speaker 1: is doing, and that's what I love what we're doing
Speaker 1: with drink chaps. Our model is what yeah, and we
Speaker 1: don't own nobody who signs the drink chap.
Speaker 2: If you signed chat, this is this is your We
Speaker 2: don't own. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't want to be a black and brown people
Speaker 1: coming to our that turn into our parents that we despised.
Speaker 2: And will set you up and if you got to
Speaker 2: go afterwards, because we said, we.
Speaker 1: Get you a one year deal, we get you all
Speaker 1: your publishing, we do everything, and we just tell you
Speaker 1: go ahead. So that's the programs that we were talking
Speaker 1: about earlier. This is the program that but me and
Speaker 1: you know that one sixty arrack when Chris Lighty would
Speaker 1: come meet with you and he would that because guess
Speaker 1: what and Q tip was there, Buster was guess you
Speaker 1: didn't come by yourself, You came six other indiviews. Guess
Speaker 1: what he did those six other not only you? Was
Speaker 1: this fight with six on the individual. It was went
Speaker 1: back to the bronx L was in. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I freestyle for L L and off. He
Speaker 1: just walked into me and I'm like, this is L
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm rapping just like listen to him, and hey,
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy?
Speaker 3: Like probably probably five or six years ago. He remembered
Speaker 3: a bar set from that run. Now, I never when
Speaker 3: he said that. He said, you said something about Chuck Steak.
Speaker 3: I'm cooking up steak. I'm cooking up beef for these
Speaker 3: Chuck Steak niggas, remember, And I was like, Dan, that
Speaker 3: was twenty plus years ago, and you really remember?
Speaker 2: And that shit inspired me. Like I used to walk
Speaker 2: in that office.
Speaker 3: I remember I had battles with Gilly and jay Z
Speaker 3: and and and Dame Dash was just walking by and
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: Like, we need you to judge it.
Speaker 3: Come in, you know what I'm saying Like that that
Speaker 3: was that was an energy, man, I think we need
Speaker 3: to have.
Speaker 1: It so both of you brothers was both political and
Speaker 1: by the way, I shut the fuck up when y'all
Speaker 1: was talking, because you know, sometimes if you don't know
Speaker 1: the fucking talking about so good, some of the.
Speaker 2: Best things to do is shut the fuck up. So
Speaker 2: I let you. But that's one of the programs that
Speaker 2: you know. I see Steve Stout.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let me say this very.
Speaker 1: We didn't see out of eye. But who he is
Speaker 1: now and who I became to be is one of
Speaker 1: the people honor. He's in Africa saying, fellas, I'm opening
Speaker 1: a record label, I want us to own our own masters.
Speaker 2: Let's Puerto Rican. I'm sorry, I know I'm fucking.
Speaker 1: African proverb up with Spanish properb but it's the same
Speaker 1: proverb he's in Africa telling, because you know, what's the
Speaker 1: most popular music there is right now?
Speaker 2: For a fucking beat. IM sorry, I'm coming out of me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's dirty red.
Speaker 1: He's in Africa telling people I love that we need
Speaker 1: to own our own masters.
Speaker 2: Our masters don't need to own us. What does that
Speaker 2: remind you of artists who are hot to them?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: And that's right, and they can see them in the
Speaker 3: offices and see them and be inspired.
Speaker 2: And most that's what I think is the solution. No
Speaker 2: one of the things that's no, no, no, no. I
Speaker 2: felt that, And you know, we need to.
Speaker 4: Really make that connection back to the continent because our
Speaker 4: brothers and sisters on the continent, they're really doing something.
Speaker 4: They're yeah, they're regaining control. You know, they're looking at
Speaker 4: their natural resources. They're not allowing themselves to be exploited.
Speaker 4: When I was in synagogue, this brother is taking over
Speaker 4: all that cocoa that is shipped to Switzerland and other
Speaker 4: places that make chocolate.
Speaker 2: He says, No, we need to.
Speaker 5: Do this right here. You know, all those natural resources.
Speaker 5: We need to make that break you getting.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, man, I'm being honest.
Speaker 3: Man, you want to say no, no, I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: feeling about I'm so hotted.
Speaker 1: Man, because you know what, that's a hip hop bro.
Speaker 1: The person that you know, I'm forty six years old,
Speaker 1: hip hop is fifty. So that means that I was
Speaker 1: listening to hip hop and my stroller.
Speaker 2: So I don't remember. I mean, did I say something
Speaker 2: smart stroller?
Speaker 1: I mean I mean that I have a rhyme, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, roller hip hop is older than me.
Speaker 1: I listened to it in my stroller. It didn't make sense,
Speaker 1: never until now.
Speaker 2: But it's true. You being a hip hop.
Speaker 1: Man the night like man when I when I'm schooling,
Speaker 1: You're going through it. It's like Friday and Saturday night.
Speaker 2: He lit this more this doll. But Chris, let me.
Speaker 1: Let me let me.
Speaker 2: Because I know how hard it is for your job. Right.
Speaker 1: So many people look at the person that runs the
Speaker 1: marathon at the end they say, all right, cool.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Nobody understands the marathon at the beginning. And then, especially
Speaker 1: in New York marathon, you got to run through each borough.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm born and raised
Speaker 1: in New York. There's certain barrels I just won't go to.
Speaker 1: You have to go through them all.
Speaker 4: How do you balance that and just, you know, be
Speaker 4: the same person in Brownsville that you're going to be
Speaker 4: on the Upper east Side.
Speaker 1: Let me critique you just a little bit. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: no way you can be the same way in Brownsville
Speaker 1: that you can be in Howard Beach. Yes you can, brother,
Speaker 1: explain that you please like I used to shout without us.
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, you can be the same person in
Speaker 1: Brownsville and Howard Beach by the way, about twelve minutes away,
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the Howard Beach, the Pelham Park,
Speaker 4: all those communities parkway right, all those communities that we
Speaker 4: once knew, they're not anymore. Really, yeah, the little it Lees,
Speaker 4: the all these areas. When we grew up, they were
Speaker 4: certain areas. You couldn't go to Benston Hurts, you know,
Speaker 4: you couldn't go to Babridge. These areas have now become one,
Speaker 4: right right, you just okay back. And so if you
Speaker 4: come with the same things, and we all want the
Speaker 4: same things. I want to be able to raise our families,
Speaker 4: educate our children, live in a safe, safe community, and
Speaker 4: be gainfully employed.
Speaker 2: That's the same across the board.
Speaker 4: And as I sit in these different communities, they all
Speaker 4: want the same communities have been denied the same I have.
Speaker 4: When I go to a Howard Beach which I won
Speaker 4: when I ran, just as I want, I want our communities,
Speaker 4: I'm saying the same message. We have to make sure
Speaker 4: if we don't give the opportunities to all these children,
Speaker 4: then these then the children that they're raising, they're not
Speaker 4: going to have the opportunities. And that's what we have
Speaker 4: to make sure that we're doing it. And that's our message.
Speaker 4: My message is the same and it's consistent, and it
Speaker 4: is what I'm going to I'm going to stand by
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna give them all.
Speaker 5: You know, we I know what we're doing. You know,
Speaker 5: we're down here now.
Speaker 2: Telling one of the things we're doing.
Speaker 4: While we're down here, we're going to be talking to
Speaker 4: the international community. People are looking at us internationally and
Speaker 4: saying that the way you are handling these crises that
Speaker 4: people need to duplicate.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: I want to give you a gift. This is for
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 1: He's from Queensbridge. From Queensbridge, his name is Jay rock Uh.
Speaker 1: He did time in prison, just like my son came home.
Speaker 1: He flipped and he's a construction worker now part of
Speaker 1: the union. He didn't ask me to do this at all.
Speaker 1: He might be embarrassed. He bought this personally. So this
Speaker 1: is the book that I bought from him personally, and
Speaker 1: I want to give it to you. It's called Life
Speaker 1: in Queensbridge.
Speaker 2: But my brother love it. I can't even tell you
Speaker 2: how much time he did in prison locked up. I
Speaker 2: was eleven. But this, this is this is a message
Speaker 2: that he asked question, I.
Speaker 4: Will ask you how to import his union labor and
Speaker 4: the unions to his administration in New York City.
Speaker 5: That said, listen when you look at the fact.
Speaker 4: First of all, I think I'm the first union member
Speaker 4: that has ever been the mayor of the City of
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 5: What I did when I became mayor settled all the union.
Speaker 4: Contract Ninety four percent of our union contracts are settled.
Speaker 4: And when you make a deal with the union leaders,
Speaker 4: you have to go and let the members vote. We're
Speaker 4: getting ninety eight percent ratification rates all these union back
Speaker 4: I have over three hundred thousand employees in the City
Speaker 4: of New York, and they're all saying that no one
Speaker 4: has given us what you have given us.
Speaker 5: Finally given us the pay scale.
Speaker 4: The human service workers, which are overwhelming women and women
Speaker 4: of color, they have been denied for years. On the
Speaker 4: campaign trails, I'm gonna make you hold when I become mayor,
Speaker 4: We're going to give you the salary you deserve.
Speaker 5: We just gave them the salary increase they deserve.
Speaker 4: These are the folks who are doing all those human services,
Speaker 4: you know, childcare, daycare.
Speaker 5: So when you look at the union members and you
Speaker 5: see I was just in Florida for I was just in.
Speaker 4: Hollywood, Florida, I think a month and a half ago
Speaker 4: with all of my construction. My trade were getting ready
Speaker 4: to make a deal to build the housing using union
Speaker 4: pension funds with the city.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: When he talks to his membership, here tell you you
Speaker 4: got a blue collar mayor, a union member, and I'm
Speaker 4: always going to be a union member. I got a
Speaker 4: union pension, and I know how important it is. And
Speaker 4: we have stood up for our unions. Man, they'll tell
Speaker 4: you in a minute. I had all these major unions
Speaker 4: endorsement DC thirty seven, thirty two, VJ t WU. You
Speaker 4: go down on the list. You know they've been with
Speaker 4: me from the beginning. And so I hear him, you know,
Speaker 4: good union paying job.
Speaker 2: God damn you. You went to John J. College.
Speaker 5: Yes, I went to Louise, I went to John Jay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, John, This is difference. What's going on.
Speaker 3: I went to Martin Luther King, which is right down
Speaker 3: the block, and then went to John Interesting.
Speaker 2: John J had more girls. But you know what, nobody
Speaker 2: had girls right next door tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Us a little bit took it.
Speaker 4: Took me for it took me fourteen years, man to
Speaker 4: get my degree, fourteen years, one class at a time.
Speaker 4: Just I'm never gonna beat you with brilliance. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: beat you with endurance. I'm gonna wear you down, man like.
Speaker 2: Let me never say you be taking my ship. You
Speaker 2: know what I say, what I say, I say, I say.
Speaker 1: I said everyone else might have had best, better product
Speaker 1: than me. They're not gonna stay outside as long as me.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much the same ship.
Speaker 2: It is dyslexic, it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, man.
Speaker 1: I invited my song because my song really loves our community. Really,
Speaker 1: the guy that is something you know happens, he's there.
Speaker 1: So I didn't ask as agenda. I just asked him
Speaker 1: to be here. And I loved it that because he's genuine.
Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't want to, but whatever, we
Speaker 1: all have the same goal. They want our city to
Speaker 1: be better.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to move back.
Speaker 5: You're a smart man.
Speaker 2: I want to move back, but I need something not
Speaker 2: from you, Not from you neither. You just need something
Speaker 2: maybe from you.
Speaker 1: But you know, what do you say to these residents
Speaker 1: that come, They say, man, New York is too expensive.
Speaker 1: Then when I get there, I see, you know, certain
Speaker 1: bombs outside my my house. Then when I get there,
Speaker 1: I see there's rats outside my house. When I get there,
Speaker 1: that see everyone's smoking weed. By the way, Amsterdam is
Speaker 1: the one of the best places I've ever been in
Speaker 1: my life. And drugs is legal everywhere. It not just weed, right,
Speaker 1: This motherfucker's sluting heroin right there like happy as hell.
Speaker 2: What's up? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know this is not politically but there's people in
Speaker 1: Amsterdam and there's no crime.
Speaker 2: There's no crime, Like holy is that the next thing?
Speaker 1: Let's make heroin I legal.
Speaker 2: They tried importantly because I was giving out free needle
Speaker 2: because we.
Speaker 5: Found this a needle injection site.
Speaker 4: We found that if you create the environment and people
Speaker 4: are gonna use, create an environment where they could do
Speaker 4: it safely and they could get the counseling that they deserve.
Speaker 5: Doctor Fassan, who's in.
Speaker 2: Charge of the wireless You ever seen the wire YEA,
Speaker 2: yeah like that? Okay, I mean that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Wait what drug free zone?
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing.
Speaker 5: And back in Baltimore, you know, track legs.
Speaker 2: Crack legs, Legs is the best whole crab. But you
Speaker 2: should come back. The city is back. No, I'm back,
Speaker 2: but I leave. I ain't gonna lie. I come.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I love it when my kids, my kids.
Speaker 2: Don't want to leave.
Speaker 5: They're smart, you know, kids don't want to leave.
Speaker 2: My kids.
Speaker 1: They love the hood. They want to go play basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, we live on the beach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it don't work too hard.
Speaker 4: We got we got listen, man, we got to do
Speaker 4: another few stops and you know, but really, really good man,
Speaker 4: let's catch up when we get back.
Speaker 5: We got a lot to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But let me let me just say this the right
Speaker 2: way it. I thank you.
Speaker 1: I know you get scrutinized. I know you get chastised,
Speaker 1: but you're the first. I was the first to do
Speaker 1: reggae doon. I was the first to work with Swiss
Speaker 1: to Beast. I was the first to work with Scott Stors.
Speaker 1: I was the first to work with Neptunes. I was
Speaker 1: the first to do reggae dong. They laughed at me.
Speaker 1: I made it to my destination, but when I popped
Speaker 1: in my GPS, that shit didn't come up.
Speaker 2: I killed that. I was like, I like the way
Speaker 2: I killed that.
Speaker 1: But when I popped in to the places I wanted
Speaker 1: to be, GPS navigation wasn't even invented. So when I
Speaker 1: told you when I complained about traffic and great eventures
Speaker 1: and I didn't leave van Wick, I knew this is
Speaker 1: what life is meaning. People want to people want to
Speaker 1: hurt you before you get to your destination. I heard
Speaker 1: you say that my greatness will not be recognized out
Speaker 1: of office, and guess what, I respect that. But I
Speaker 1: want to take a little bit before we get up
Speaker 1: out of here and tell you being a renegade is
Speaker 1: also the same thing.
Speaker 2: But Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: Didn't legalize marijuana throughout the whole fifty states because he
Speaker 1: didn't want to be the black person to legalize.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1: Trump will do the exact opposite to be the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: So I want to give you that little bit of advice.
Speaker 1: And I can't give you no political inviting at all.
Speaker 1: Listen to me, I told you I'm dyslexic, resource rooms,
Speaker 1: personal education, everything, put it all together, add all.
Speaker 2: But the advice I can give you is fuck it.
Speaker 2: That's it. Listen and pull hold ho hold on hok
Speaker 2: because this is it's two works, right, fuck it.
Speaker 1: I'm giving it to you because you can do it.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what he was saying intelligently. And I
Speaker 1: told you I'm simplestic, right. Eric Adams Brooklyn Queen's guy
Speaker 1: who I know knows NAS albums just as much as me,
Speaker 1: those biggie albums just as much as me. Just think
Speaker 1: about it one time, right the same way prompt says
Speaker 1: fuck it sometimes. That's my only advice.
Speaker 9: And I and.
Speaker 4: We said that January first, twenty twenty two, became elected.
Speaker 4: And trust me when I tell you, we're still saying it.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be I'm gonna just move to New
Speaker 1: York just to vote for you again, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the fun about it. Guess who my quiet
Speaker 1: advice list of my quiet advice is.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, we got a first I forgot.
Speaker 5: We have a special guest.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's part of our cork. You have to give
Speaker 2: us a certificate.
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Speaker 10: mayor of mom Dade counter and the commissions of Mama
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Speaker 2: Today hear this political speech.
Speaker 10: No, it's been wonderful and so I'm presenting this certificate
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