WEBVTT - Tales From The Hood 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.680 Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles, and this 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.800 is Alex Alonso, and to my right is and to 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.560 his right and Big Jake James McDonald, and thank you 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.000 for coming in to talk about whatever we're gonna talk 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.760 about today, man, and for all y'all out there listening, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.600 we appreciate you listening to the Gangster Chronicles. And we're 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.159 gonna start the show off with some Instagram questions that 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.560 were posted to the Gangster Chronicles Instagram page. Actually the 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.760 Instagram pages Gangster Chronicles without the word though, so make 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.440 sure you go check out the Instagram page, follow us 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.320 on there, and if you've got some questions for a 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.680 future episode, feel free to to post on that on 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.920 that account. But our first Instagram question for today is 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.040 whatever happened to Sam Snead? Now, Sam sneed actually only 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.760 had I believe one song ever recorded under a death row. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.320 You better recordnize, you better recognize it was okay song. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.400 I don't know if it was considered a hit and 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.360 then he wasn't he didn't he produce some songs with 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.360 Dre as well. I'm sure everybody produced the songs with Dre, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.320 you just don't get credit for it. But I think 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.679 I think he actually sometimes though if you get credit 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.640 for co producing, does that mean you've actually produced or 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.600 Withdre with Trey? And that's the misconception about Dre. Dre 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.680 Is is kind of lazy. So what happens is he's 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.000 a finisher though. You know, guys, he had to take 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.600 the basic from something and then he takes him and 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.320 finish it to the point where you don't even recognize 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.959 it because he's so um what's the word, kind of 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.759 crafty with and he going master stuff at Bernie Grumman's. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.839 You know, he used big base Brian, and he going 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.640 and master yourself about ten times before he put his 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.399 final stamp on it. So here here, run your budget 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.840 up and he's spend some money. So Sam Sneel was 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.600 around I guess ninety three, that's kind of his years. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.280 Four and then he was there for like I said, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.000 the murder was the case uh album and release and 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.040 he was actually like he said, he was there tupockets 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.160 and want to Randy mar So, So where is he 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:10.000 had today? I guess some people want to know in Pittsburgh, Uh, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.320 that is a gangster here out in Pittsburgh wherever? You 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.239 know in Pittsburgh and he's out there, him and j 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.399 Flex and Borney and all of them was still talk. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.440 It's still tight. He's probably doing some ghost righting for 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.400 dre again, I wouldn't doubt it, but he was mainly 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.320 a Drey boy. He got up under the air, you know, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.680 and the dre Wing and James you never crossed past 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.560 with Sam's needing them them. No, I'm probably shorting, but 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.239 I met him. No, we never like kick and the question. Yeah, 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.680 they really want to know it's why he left because 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.520 they didn't heard about him getting beat down. Yeah, there 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.560 was just I guess as a rumor or some sort 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.840 of controversy with Sam's need during at death row. I'll 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.359 try to make it quick because it's kind of long, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.960 but this is what happened. Uh. They had a big 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.600 meeting after the trial, after the Snoop Dogg trial, after 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.520 he was found out guilty, which was no, no, no, no, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:05.280 no ninety five in the nine beginning of the ninety six. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.639 Uh So that's when they were upset, and Park and everybody, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.280 all the artists was in the uh in the you know, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:20.280 ship's office at Canal and they were upset because people 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.160 don't know and this is why Snoop wasn't even cool 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.160 with Dre for a while. Was during the trial there 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.200 was what witnesses it kept saying Dr Dre was was 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.800 the shooter, kept identifying Dre as the shooter, mixing up 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.720 Snoop and Dre. And so they wanted Drey to come 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.040 to court to support Snoop or to come to court 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.760 because David Kenner wanted to get him on the stand 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.880 and pretty much say hey, what's your name, and so 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.760 he can say Dr Dre, you know how attorneys do 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.240 the legal maneuver. But Dre would having no part of 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:58.040 no part of it. He wasn't you. If you were 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:04.600 you hanging out, you ain't things Dre coming exactly, and 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.480 so so he was dram was getting worried that this 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.600 was going on. Well, the attorneys was trying to get 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.840 him like, hey, man, come in here. They're trying to 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.720 you know, they're trying to say you you were you know, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.640 misidentifying you, which we all knew, but they're trying to 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.039 say you were the shooter and not Snoop, and we 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.800 just want to, you know, play this game in front 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.839 of the witness I guess to create a little confusion 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:27.520 for the exactly you know, the discredit the witness, and 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.360 Dray wouldn't having no part of it. And so that 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.799 was you know, so pop home, you know, parka around 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.000 now and then he heard about it and he's seeing 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.560 that Drey wasn't really coming around as much, and so 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.960 Park was like, man, what's up with Trey wat Dray? 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.280 Then come if you ain't got your if you ain't 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.880 got snoop bad you know, you know how the pok is, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.640 you know, I mean, fuck Dre. Fuck you know. He 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.640 was being a row about it to the point where 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.400 so they had a meeting in the office and Shook 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.120 office and so that's when Park was like, you had 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.359 Dre shouldn't be around and this's and he was really 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.600 amped up about it and so so so that's when 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.600 pretty much people didn't know what was going on behind 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.800 the scenes where Dre was making his exit anyway, um, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.160 you know, and and Jimmy and Shook and they were 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.279 doing some negotiations, but they had to convince the artist. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.680 So now they're trying to see who's Ryan, what who 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.359 sounds need for? But he was kind of cart up 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.680 because he was tight with Dre. You know, he was 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.800 over there, but they him and Nancy and all of 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.400 them had just shot a video. Uh, he had just 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.680 shot a video, you know, in his whole town in Pittsburgh. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.919 And she she was like, man, yeah, you did this 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.240 video self. S need to some song he had. You 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.800 ain't have no depth roll artists there, because that's one 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.560 thing we were big on the supporting each other in 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.600 the videos and all of that. And you didn't have 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.320 nobody in your video, and nobody was at the shoot 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.320 and it was just you and Nancy and and Dre. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.880 You know that ain't death rolling and so all of 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:03.320 that those sounds there's what I don't know, you know, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.719 you know, like I'm just doing what Drake told me. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.200 I didn't know it was a b foot that's just 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.440 Shugar and then playing games. So anyway, so Sham Steve 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.120 was in the poor in the meeting and they smashing 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.359 on him about this video shoot. We end up casting 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.680 Sugar a lot of money. And I get to the 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.320 why because Danny Boy had a video coming up the 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.599 next week. And I laughed when that happened, and I said, look, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.560 you know, put your foot into your mouth, because he 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.080 had end up flying everybody out to the video shoot 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.799 for Danny Boy in Cabo, because we went to Cabo, Mexico, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.479 because he made this big old speech on how all 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.400 different waters need to be got everybody video shoots and protected, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.160 you know, you know, not protecting, but you know, promoting 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.359 on helping, you know, helping everybody out, you know, giving 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.120 everybody on you know, being at the at the video shoot. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.960 And so he had to fly everybody off the combo. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.479 But I jumped off the subject. So but anyway, so 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.720 Sam sneve catching all of this heat in this video. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.160 It's the day that snow. We was on our way 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.640 to Montes to celebrate Snoop getting a quitted and uh 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.000 so inside there a couple of niggas you know, ol 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.720 TB y'all know flip side low reference rest in Peace, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.080 lip oil, TP low and low and b and then 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.760 bust stop and bust stop. One of them bomb. It 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.000 is always rumor that it was popped, but it wasn't popped. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.280 It was one of them that took a bomb on 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:33.720 on on sam sleeve and uh probably somebody told them 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.520 to take oh you know it was That's when you 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.720 get down to it, who told him to take off? 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.640 That gotta come down. You know, he kind of pulled 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.600 them to the side. I don't know. I don't know, Hollywood, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.680 but that's what happened because I wasn't inside and I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.800 just heard heard about it and all of that. We 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.800 disappeared after that. After that, I remember going to Montes 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.680 and I'm wondering because me and suth thein't never really 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.840 been that tight. That's where everybody went to and there 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.960 and man and he kept hanging onto me. He was 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.440 standing by me the whole time, and that I know 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.280 that I heard about what had happened, and we went 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.360 down on that the ship. We did see Sampson need 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.480 no more after that? Did Johnny Cock can go to 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.480 that dinner? But you know his client that got off, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.640 his client that got off. It was just the two 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.800 of them there. Him and Don Ray got their clients off, 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.960 which was Shane Dog and I think Big Sea Style 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.360 it was. It was um it was the other two. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.560 But the only two that that stayed on the case 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:36.360 was Snooping and the bodyguard Malik. Yeah, so that's what 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.520 happened with SAMs Sney. So that's why Sampson need no 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.360 longer with dere from So did that pretty much and 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.400 Sam Sneed's association with Death Throw pretty much. I think 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.959 he probably be back on the slide best with dre 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.280 At sometime, but never he was never back around death 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.400 From Okay, and then let's go to the to this 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.240 last question about Tupac. When he was with thud Life 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.360 was associated with with crips. I don't know if he 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.079 was actually a crip member. But then of course when 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.319 he when he came to Death Row in uh February, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.360 he's hanging out with bloods Now, did anyone over there, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.560 James have something to say about dude, you was hanging 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.440 out with crips. Now you over here with us? Well, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.640 I don't. I don't think too many people did. But 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.560 I've always had a problem when when Tupac came, like 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.360 I said, he was cool, but then when he got 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.080 with with us, and then they saying they was putting 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.199 you got a tattoo of the mob put on him. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.840 Now that's something totally different. Um, when he was in 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.560 New York, they said he was saying cousin this and that, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:42.400 and uh. The point, the real point to me is 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.319 if Tupac hanging and kicking with it with everybody whoever 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.000 he hang out with he cool with him. So if 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.480 he hain't with the crips, he cool with the crips. Okay, cool. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.960 You come over here, you're hanging with the bloods. Okay, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.800 you cool. But now you know, turned it up because 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.000 now you're putting gang tattoos on you. Now you don't 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.560 took off the blue rag and this rag and you 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.240 win the red rack. So it's something totally different point, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.480 something totally different. I don't think he was ready to 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.240 step his game up like that. Uh you hear Tupacs 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.480 speak a lot about how he brought gangsters to to 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.040 to the studios and all of this other ship. But 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.080 you can't you can't do both sides. You can't be 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.360 from both sides. I mean, this transformers all in the 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.480 history of Los Angeles game, right, But is it different 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.640 because you're coming from New York, New York Bank totally 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.720 different than how l A do you know what I'm saying? 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.920 They got clicks, So maybe he was into the click ship, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.000 you know what I'm saying. And then now you're coming 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.280 to California and you come in the death row and 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.800 then first you humble and now you just let the 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.040 real Tupac out. So now you're dealing with some greedy cats, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.920 some hungry cats that I say, and and you're holding 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.640 mentality the flipped it changed. You are totally different. You 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.840 ain't even acting like Tupacs in a sense that whilding out, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.120 spending on people and all that bullshit. It escalated to 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.320 something different. Now you're taking off from people in fairness. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.920 That's was Pop. That was just Park. When he was 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.640 in Oakland, when it was in Baltimore, when he was 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.000 in New York, then you know a couple of times 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.040 he was in l A. I think he was just 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:30.400 loyal with to who he was with, and some would 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.480 call it no loyalty. You know, a person like yourself 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.640 that this deal with one territory or one turf. And 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.560 I think that's the difference between Park. One of the 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.200 difference between Park and Nipsey. Where Nipsey always was with 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.760 the sixties and stuff like that, and so that's why 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.360 you know, he seemed like he did more for his 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.120 hood and then the sixties and stuff like that. Where 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.600 Park was we can think of five different places where 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.800 he was at when he doesn't have an identity that's 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.439 associated with a city or because no identity that I 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.000 can think of five places where people would think, oh, 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.360 he's from Mirror, we get we suld have a conversation. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.079 Do from Oakland and Marine County and all that he was. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.880 So he was from Oakland, he was from the Bay. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.240 We can talk to some dudes in New York be like, no, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.320 he was in here, Baltimore. He started off here. Then 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.839 you know, music to pick weight everywhere he was at. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.559 That's what he was what he was rapping. Yeah, but 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.920 his biggest music came the Double C with the MLB 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.520 and MOBI and mom and James tell us what MLB 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.439 stands for in your money a little bit and that's 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.600 all he was holland he was holling. You know, some 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.160 people will say members of the Blood something saying members 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.960 of the Molle or the Mob, but that's what and 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.640 this is a person that's in it. No, Tupac actually 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.480 had the Mob tattooed when he did that. But I 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.240 didn't know Hammer. That's something open the Hammer did too. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.880 So that what kills that theory. I really believe you 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.680 claiman the hood from he was starting to claim the 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.960 hood because that's just you know, Holly was in his 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.319 last eleven months of his life. I truly believe that. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.360 I believe that's why Bogar and Big Psych stopped really 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.560 messing with even as tough as they did, because they 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.360 saw that they and they observed that. Um but um. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.880 How close was he with Big Psyche and then Big 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.760 Pyche was there up until about the last two or 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.199 three months of his life. He was hanging around even 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.000 after he got out of jail after Sugar Belt pock out. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.720 Everybody's still associating with Big w who we know he 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:37.600 was from IVC Imperial Village CRIPT and remembered outlaws every day. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.480 He was there up until the last three months. And 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.520 there were no issues with hanging out with with this 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.520 CRIPT dude, James, No, because that's all differenthead is Bloods 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.600 and Cripts. I don't know what their conversations that him 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.880 and Big Site had. I'm sure Bige was probably perturative 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.720 piss that he was holding his them MOBI. I don't 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.400 know the timelines wentpot got there mob patted on the 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.280 back of his arm. Had to be ninety six right ever. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.080 But I'm just saying that you know the timeline because 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:12.000 Big Psyche they leave. Uh oh, he was going before 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.280 Soul trained, I think now, so Big Site might have 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.440 been going by April. Now how far coals relationship with 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.680 Big Psych start. When does that whole Outlaws relationship start? 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.440 I don't know, but I can say this. I'm the 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.160 one that picked up you know, all that bullshit that 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.080 the shig was there with the death row chain and 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.280 all of that, that's not true me And it's the 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.840 security guy named Kevin Hackey and h cls uh cls 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:41.680 Limousine Service picked up Big Site and Boguard at the 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.480 at the airport l a X and bought him straight 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.400 to Canal. So all that ship with Das and all 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.480 them talking about they want the bonnies and all of that, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.440 that's all live. We picked them up, took and drove 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.720 him straight to Candal and that's what Sugar and all 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.920 the homies were and they started working that night. He 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:01.640 had a seizure that night and uh we had a 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.520 getting back to you know, because it was smoking a 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.720 lot and drinking and all of that. So he kind 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.000 of passed out. When y'all picked up Tupac from the airport, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:14.480 was Tupac like banging No, oh no, he was heah. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.560 And this is what I'm saying. You don't you don't 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.240 have no more than eight months with the homies, not 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:27.960 even eleven, because I exactly not even more. That one 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:33.720 came out. Yeah, you know, he got out late October. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.960 You don't have a year. That's in a year, and 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.840 then you want to represent something that you had no knowledge. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.200 He was loyal to who he went, Okay, but but man, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:50.040 you don't do it like that. So um no, man, Tupac. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:55.600 Tupac did his thing, but he made a terrible mistake, uh, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.960 representing something he didn't know nothing about. And I got 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:06.800 said said he didn't know about gangs, didn't not the 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.640 l A game. I don't think he really was educated 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.040 on the l A gang culture. I mean the whole 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.360 cryp Blood thing was probably brand new the park. Okay. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:21.040 So when he got out in late what was when 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.760 was his birthday? His birthday? Okay, so it's twenty four 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.040 years old when he got out, and he had spent 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.960 all this time in Marin County, the Bay Area, in Baltimore. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.680 So how much did he learn about l A gang 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.560 culture in those early nineties? Well, they did the Thug 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.160 Life album out here. He jumped right into it, he did, honestly. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.480 I mean I can't say. I'm just telling you what 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.720 he what I believe he started claiming in the last 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.960 eleven months during that period, Okay, when when he would 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.240 have conversations, would he be like a blood, what's up? 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.680 That put a good way? And this is how much? 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.600 And I might be right about what he didn't know 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.800 because I remember me and she got in a little 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.760 disagreement because in the Living Die l A video he 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.320 came out and he wore a blue l A Dodger 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:19.160 uh Jersey tank top. If y'all go look at the color, 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.680 then live in don l a what color that tank 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.280 top is? Now? I mean not even that. When he 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.640 was shot in New York, his bandannas were blue left 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.240 right there way he was shot at, I don't know, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.359 but I don't know. I don't think they do color 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.240 New York like that dough the red and blue. It 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.120 just started hitting New York, and the started hitting New York, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.400 New Jersey tretch and then was claiming Paru paru all 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.480 day out there in New Jersey. So they claiming it hard. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.359 I just think it was. It wasn't he could have 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.520 been doing it, but I think he could have been 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.680 schooled a little better. He could have been and sheltered, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:07.760 meaning bagging up. We got this. He took off, he 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.080 took off. He took off quick. And this is being 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.920 Reggie disagreed. You can't take off on nothing you don't know. Oh, 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.800 I'm not saying I'm talking when he took off running quick. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:25.600 I'm just saying, he just from Cali and you didn't 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.320 lost your ship. Somebody that took it from you, and 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.600 you a gangster, and I see the dude that did me, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.840 I'm going after him. I'm not being a whisper, the 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.640 Tupac of all people. I'm not gonna ho a Tupac. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.080 I'm gonna go to the big home where the whisper 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.200 come from, because the whisper comes from Frank Frank Alexander 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.240 the security jail. And he put a bullet in his 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.840 head and put a gun in his mouth and killed 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.560 himself because he's a coward. But he did killed his 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.879 dead is no longer with us in front of his wife. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:02.680 But my point, uh, Trayvonn Lane, just to be fair. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.240 His his version is he was talking to his homies 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:12.000 neck Bone Bounty Shug and all of that park overheard 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.240 him talking about, Hey, there's the guy that tried to 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.920 take my chain at the mall in the Lakewood Mall, 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.160 and Park took off a rant. He said, no time 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.480 shows Trayvon and Park standing side by side. This is 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.920 my No, they're not standing side by side. Whisper no, no, no, no. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.200 He came over there and start talking. I never said 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.919 the name. I just heard. I just heard how it 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.160 went down. And if it goes down like that, Park 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.560 shouldn't never been in that position to do that. You 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.560 ain't got you ain't got it like that was walking 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.480 on the side of Park when he's that's not that's 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.159 Frank Alexander, his security guy, the Big Frank. That's the 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.600 Big Frank, Big Frank, Big Frank, and Park. We're walking together. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.560 Trayvon walks up to them. That's Big Frank. That's Frank. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:08.040 So right before Pop hits Orlando Anderson, who's the guy 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.480 next to Park walking through the casino lobby, right before 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.040 he hits Orlando Anderson or approaches Orlando Anderson. The only 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.760 person I was saw it was Frank alright, But Trayvon 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.000 walks up towards them. But the person that I was 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.000 in there that's walking with Frank and Frank has a mustache, 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.399 a very big mustache, right, it had like a vest 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.679 on tank top, black vests. Have to look at that 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:34.080 footage again, Tames, Yeah, yeah, Well the main thing was 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.359 that did Park have any problems at death Row considering 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.760 he was hanging out with crips before he got there. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.920 I think every I think everybody at death ruin Bridge Park, 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.680 Ya don't remember. We had a culture that was kind 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.840 of accepted around there. It was like a free zone 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.280 because you had a bunch of cryptal came through the area. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.479 You know, he had tradd big c style uh um, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.040 a little not a little out there a little half 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:03.480 did at one time rb X that up because it 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.160 sure it was his business. There was actually more crips 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:17.280 that were signed making music. Really didn't have made no money, 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.880 but it was all crips. But that's money. So everybody 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.600 knew what the atmosphere was. Those cats wouldn't being to 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.920 get out of line, so everybody knew this is this 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.240 is how we get to check and Quick Quick was there. 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.439 Quick was actually signed the profile, but you know he 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.240 was there doing some producer with all that money was 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:39.000 coming in through crip artists exactly and some but that 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.200 was because of drape choosing. Drake ran the production side 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.440 the company and till the end until our hero part came. 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.960 Man did this divide and conquer Alright, let's say that 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:56.160 for another subject though. Okay, let's move on to kief 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.800 E D from south Side Compton Crip. He just released 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.800 his book a couple of weeks ago. What do you 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.160 think about a guy writing a book I tell all 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.960 book about I mean everything from drug dealing to shootings 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:14.080 to to what happened to pock that night. Yeah, it 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.119 ain't the first time you got mafia's writing books. It 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.280 all depends on the person that's writing the book, though, 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.720 you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's just tell 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:29.560 all story about himself. That's cool, But okay, it's up 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.160