1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles, and this 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso, and to my right is and to 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: his right and Big Jake James McDonald, and thank you 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: for coming in to talk about whatever we're gonna talk 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: about today, man, and for all y'all out there listening, 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: we appreciate you listening to the Gangster Chronicles. And we're 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: gonna start the show off with some Instagram questions that 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: were posted to the Gangster Chronicles Instagram page. Actually the 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Instagram pages Gangster Chronicles without the word though, so make 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: sure you go check out the Instagram page, follow us 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: on there, and if you've got some questions for a 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: future episode, feel free to to post on that on 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: that account. But our first Instagram question for today is 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: whatever happened to Sam Snead? Now, Sam sneed actually only 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: had I believe one song ever recorded under a death row. 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: You better recordnize, you better recognize it was okay song. 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was considered a hit and 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: then he wasn't he didn't he produce some songs with 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Dre as well. I'm sure everybody produced the songs with Dre, 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: you just don't get credit for it. But I think 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: I think he actually sometimes though if you get credit 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: for co producing, does that mean you've actually produced or 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Withdre with Trey? And that's the misconception about Dre. Dre 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Is is kind of lazy. So what happens is he's 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: a finisher though. You know, guys, he had to take 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the basic from something and then he takes him and 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: finish it to the point where you don't even recognize 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: it because he's so um what's the word, kind of 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: crafty with and he going master stuff at Bernie Grumman's. 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: You know, he used big base Brian, and he going 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: and master yourself about ten times before he put his 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: final stamp on it. So here here, run your budget 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: up and he's spend some money. So Sam Sneel was 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: around I guess ninety three, that's kind of his years. 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Four and then he was there for like I said, 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the murder was the case uh album and release and 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: he was actually like he said, he was there tupockets 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and want to Randy mar So, So where is he 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: had today? I guess some people want to know in Pittsburgh, Uh, 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: that is a gangster here out in Pittsburgh wherever? You 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: know in Pittsburgh and he's out there, him and j 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: Flex and Borney and all of them was still talk. 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: It's still tight. He's probably doing some ghost righting for 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: dre again, I wouldn't doubt it, but he was mainly 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: a Drey boy. He got up under the air, you know, 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: and the dre Wing and James you never crossed past 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: with Sam's needing them them. No, I'm probably shorting, but 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: I met him. No, we never like kick and the question. Yeah, 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: they really want to know it's why he left because 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: they didn't heard about him getting beat down. Yeah, there 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: was just I guess as a rumor or some sort 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: of controversy with Sam's need during at death row. I'll 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: try to make it quick because it's kind of long, 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: but this is what happened. Uh. They had a big 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: meeting after the trial, after the Snoop Dogg trial, after 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: he was found out guilty, which was no, no, no, no, 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: no ninety five in the nine beginning of the ninety six. 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: Uh So that's when they were upset, and Park and everybody, 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: all the artists was in the uh in the you know, 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: ship's office at Canal and they were upset because people 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know and this is why Snoop wasn't even cool 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: with Dre for a while. Was during the trial there 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: was what witnesses it kept saying Dr Dre was was 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: the shooter, kept identifying Dre as the shooter, mixing up 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Snoop and Dre. And so they wanted Drey to come 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to court to support Snoop or to come to court 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: because David Kenner wanted to get him on the stand 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and pretty much say hey, what's your name, and so 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: he can say Dr Dre, you know how attorneys do 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the legal maneuver. But Dre would having no part of 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: no part of it. He wasn't you. If you were 72 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: you hanging out, you ain't things Dre coming exactly, and 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: so so he was dram was getting worried that this 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: was going on. Well, the attorneys was trying to get 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: him like, hey, man, come in here. They're trying to 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to say you you were you know, 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: misidentifying you, which we all knew, but they're trying to 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: say you were the shooter and not Snoop, and we 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: just want to, you know, play this game in front 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: of the witness I guess to create a little confusion 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: for the exactly you know, the discredit the witness, and 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Dray wouldn't having no part of it. And so that 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: was you know, so pop home, you know, parka around 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: now and then he heard about it and he's seeing 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: that Drey wasn't really coming around as much, and so 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Park was like, man, what's up with Trey wat Dray? 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: Then come if you ain't got your if you ain't 88 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: got snoop bad you know, you know how the pok is, 89 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, fuck Dre. Fuck you know. He 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: was being a row about it to the point where 91 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: so they had a meeting in the office and Shook 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: office and so that's when Park was like, you had 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: Dre shouldn't be around and this's and he was really 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: amped up about it and so so so that's when 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: pretty much people didn't know what was going on behind 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: the scenes where Dre was making his exit anyway, um, 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, and and Jimmy and Shook and they were 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: doing some negotiations, but they had to convince the artist. 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: So now they're trying to see who's Ryan, what who 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: sounds need for? But he was kind of cart up 101 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: because he was tight with Dre. You know, he was 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: over there, but they him and Nancy and all of 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: them had just shot a video. Uh, he had just 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: shot a video, you know, in his whole town in Pittsburgh. 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: And she she was like, man, yeah, you did this 106 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: video self. S need to some song he had. You 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: ain't have no depth roll artists there, because that's one 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: thing we were big on the supporting each other in 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: the videos and all of that. And you didn't have 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: nobody in your video, and nobody was at the shoot 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: and it was just you and Nancy and and Dre. 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: You know that ain't death rolling and so all of 113 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: that those sounds there's what I don't know, you know, 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm just doing what Drake told me. 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was a b foot that's just 116 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: Shugar and then playing games. So anyway, so Sham Steve 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: was in the poor in the meeting and they smashing 118 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: on him about this video shoot. We end up casting 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Sugar a lot of money. And I get to the 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: why because Danny Boy had a video coming up the 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: next week. And I laughed when that happened, and I said, look, 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, put your foot into your mouth, because he 123 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: had end up flying everybody out to the video shoot 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: for Danny Boy in Cabo, because we went to Cabo, Mexico, 125 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: because he made this big old speech on how all 126 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: different waters need to be got everybody video shoots and protected, 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know, not protecting, but you know, promoting 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: on helping, you know, helping everybody out, you know, giving 129 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: everybody on you know, being at the at the video shoot. 130 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: And so he had to fly everybody off the combo. 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: But I jumped off the subject. So but anyway, so 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Sam sneve catching all of this heat in this video. 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: It's the day that snow. We was on our way 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: to Montes to celebrate Snoop getting a quitted and uh 135 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: so inside there a couple of niggas you know, ol 136 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: TB y'all know flip side low reference rest in Peace, 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: lip oil, TP low and low and b and then 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: bust stop and bust stop. One of them bomb. It 139 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: is always rumor that it was popped, but it wasn't popped. 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: It was one of them that took a bomb on 141 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: on on sam sleeve and uh probably somebody told them 142 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: to take oh you know it was That's when you 143 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: get down to it, who told him to take off? 144 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: That gotta come down. You know, he kind of pulled 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: them to the side. I don't know. I don't know, Hollywood, 146 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: but that's what happened because I wasn't inside and I 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: just heard heard about it and all of that. We 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: disappeared after that. After that, I remember going to Montes 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering because me and suth thein't never really 150 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: been that tight. That's where everybody went to and there 151 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: and man and he kept hanging onto me. He was 152 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: standing by me the whole time, and that I know 153 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: that I heard about what had happened, and we went 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: down on that the ship. We did see Sampson need 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: no more after that? Did Johnny Cock can go to 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that dinner? But you know his client that got off, 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: his client that got off. It was just the two 158 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: of them there. Him and Don Ray got their clients off, 159 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: which was Shane Dog and I think Big Sea Style 160 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was um it was the other two. 161 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: But the only two that that stayed on the case 162 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: was Snooping and the bodyguard Malik. Yeah, so that's what 163 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: happened with SAMs Sney. So that's why Sampson need no 164 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: longer with dere from So did that pretty much and 165 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Sam Sneed's association with Death Throw pretty much. I think 166 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: he probably be back on the slide best with dre 167 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: At sometime, but never he was never back around death 168 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: From Okay, and then let's go to the to this 169 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: last question about Tupac. When he was with thud Life 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: was associated with with crips. I don't know if he 171 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: was actually a crip member. But then of course when 172 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: he when he came to Death Row in uh February, 173 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: he's hanging out with bloods Now, did anyone over there, 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: James have something to say about dude, you was hanging 175 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: out with crips. Now you over here with us? Well, 176 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think too many people did. But 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: I've always had a problem when when Tupac came, like 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I said, he was cool, but then when he got 179 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: with with us, and then they saying they was putting 180 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: you got a tattoo of the mob put on him. 181 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Now that's something totally different. Um, when he was in 182 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: New York, they said he was saying cousin this and that, 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: and uh. The point, the real point to me is 184 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: if Tupac hanging and kicking with it with everybody whoever 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: he hang out with he cool with him. So if 186 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: he hain't with the crips, he cool with the crips. Okay, cool. 187 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: You come over here, you're hanging with the bloods. Okay, 188 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: you cool. But now you know, turned it up because 189 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: now you're putting gang tattoos on you. Now you don't 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: took off the blue rag and this rag and you 191 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: win the red rack. So it's something totally different point, 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: something totally different. I don't think he was ready to 193 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: step his game up like that. Uh you hear Tupacs 194 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: speak a lot about how he brought gangsters to to 195 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: to the studios and all of this other ship. But 196 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: you can't you can't do both sides. You can't be 197 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: from both sides. I mean, this transformers all in the 198 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: history of Los Angeles game, right, But is it different 199 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: because you're coming from New York, New York Bank totally 200 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: different than how l A do you know what I'm saying? 201 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: They got clicks, So maybe he was into the click ship, 202 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then now you're coming 203 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: to California and you come in the death row and 204 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: then first you humble and now you just let the 205 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: real Tupac out. So now you're dealing with some greedy cats, 206 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: some hungry cats that I say, and and you're holding 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: mentality the flipped it changed. You are totally different. You 208 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: ain't even acting like Tupacs in a sense that whilding out, 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: spending on people and all that bullshit. It escalated to 210 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: something different. Now you're taking off from people in fairness. 211 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: That's was Pop. That was just Park. When he was 212 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: in Oakland, when it was in Baltimore, when he was 213 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: in New York, then you know a couple of times 214 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: he was in l A. I think he was just 215 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: loyal with to who he was with, and some would 216 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: call it no loyalty. You know, a person like yourself 217 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: that this deal with one territory or one turf. And 218 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: I think that's the difference between Park. One of the 219 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: difference between Park and Nipsey. Where Nipsey always was with 220 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: the sixties and stuff like that, and so that's why 221 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, he seemed like he did more for his 222 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: hood and then the sixties and stuff like that. Where 223 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Park was we can think of five different places where 224 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: he was at when he doesn't have an identity that's 225 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: associated with a city or because no identity that I 226 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: can think of five places where people would think, oh, 227 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: he's from Mirror, we get we suld have a conversation. 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: Do from Oakland and Marine County and all that he was. 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: So he was from Oakland, he was from the Bay. 230 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: We can talk to some dudes in New York be like, no, 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: he was in here, Baltimore. He started off here. Then 232 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: you know, music to pick weight everywhere he was at. 233 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: That's what he was what he was rapping. Yeah, but 234 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: his biggest music came the Double C with the MLB 235 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: and MOBI and mom and James tell us what MLB 236 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: stands for in your money a little bit and that's 237 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: all he was holland he was holling. You know, some 238 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: people will say members of the Blood something saying members 239 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: of the Molle or the Mob, but that's what and 240 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: this is a person that's in it. No, Tupac actually 241 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: had the Mob tattooed when he did that. But I 242 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: didn't know Hammer. That's something open the Hammer did too. 243 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: So that what kills that theory. I really believe you 244 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: claiman the hood from he was starting to claim the 245 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: hood because that's just you know, Holly was in his 246 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: last eleven months of his life. I truly believe that. 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: I believe that's why Bogar and Big Psych stopped really 248 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: messing with even as tough as they did, because they 249 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: saw that they and they observed that. Um but um. 250 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: How close was he with Big Psyche and then Big 251 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Pyche was there up until about the last two or 252 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: three months of his life. He was hanging around even 253 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: after he got out of jail after Sugar Belt pock out. 254 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Everybody's still associating with Big w who we know he 255 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: was from IVC Imperial Village CRIPT and remembered outlaws every day. 256 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: He was there up until the last three months. And 257 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: there were no issues with hanging out with with this 258 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: CRIPT dude, James, No, because that's all differenthead is Bloods 259 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: and Cripts. I don't know what their conversations that him 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: and Big Site had. I'm sure Bige was probably perturative 261 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: piss that he was holding his them MOBI. I don't 262 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: know the timelines wentpot got there mob patted on the 263 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: back of his arm. Had to be ninety six right ever. 264 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that you know the timeline because 265 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Big Psyche they leave. Uh oh, he was going before 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Soul trained, I think now, so Big Site might have 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: been going by April. Now how far coals relationship with 268 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Big Psych start. When does that whole Outlaws relationship start? 269 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can say this. I'm the 270 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: one that picked up you know, all that bullshit that 271 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: the shig was there with the death row chain and 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: all of that, that's not true me And it's the 273 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: security guy named Kevin Hackey and h cls uh cls 274 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Limousine Service picked up Big Site and Boguard at the 275 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: at the airport l a X and bought him straight 276 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: to Canal. So all that ship with Das and all 277 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: them talking about they want the bonnies and all of that, 278 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: that's all live. We picked them up, took and drove 279 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: him straight to Candal and that's what Sugar and all 280 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: the homies were and they started working that night. He 281 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: had a seizure that night and uh we had a 282 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: getting back to you know, because it was smoking a 283 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: lot and drinking and all of that. So he kind 284 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: of passed out. When y'all picked up Tupac from the airport, 285 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: was Tupac like banging No, oh no, he was heah. 286 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: And this is what I'm saying. You don't you don't 287 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: have no more than eight months with the homies, not 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: even eleven, because I exactly not even more. That one 289 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, you know, he got out late October. 290 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: You don't have a year. That's in a year, and 291 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: then you want to represent something that you had no knowledge. 292 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: He was loyal to who he went, Okay, but but man, 293 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: you don't do it like that. So um no, man, Tupac. 294 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Tupac did his thing, but he made a terrible mistake, uh, 295 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: representing something he didn't know nothing about. And I got 296 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: said said he didn't know about gangs, didn't not the 297 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: l A game. I don't think he really was educated 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: on the l A gang culture. I mean the whole 299 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: cryp Blood thing was probably brand new the park. Okay. 300 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: So when he got out in late what was when 301 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: was his birthday? His birthday? Okay, so it's twenty four 302 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: years old when he got out, and he had spent 303 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: all this time in Marin County, the Bay Area, in Baltimore. 304 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: So how much did he learn about l A gang 305 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: culture in those early nineties? Well, they did the Thug 306 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Life album out here. He jumped right into it, he did, honestly. 307 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean I can't say. I'm just telling you what 308 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: he what I believe he started claiming in the last 309 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: eleven months during that period, Okay, when when he would 310 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: have conversations, would he be like a blood, what's up? 311 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: That put a good way? And this is how much? 312 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And I might be right about what he didn't know 313 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: because I remember me and she got in a little 314 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: disagreement because in the Living Die l A video he 315 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: came out and he wore a blue l A Dodger 316 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: uh Jersey tank top. If y'all go look at the color, 317 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: then live in don l a what color that tank 318 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: top is? Now? I mean not even that. When he 319 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: was shot in New York, his bandannas were blue left 320 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: right there way he was shot at, I don't know, 321 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't think they do color 322 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: New York like that dough the red and blue. It 323 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: just started hitting New York, and the started hitting New York, 324 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: New Jersey tretch and then was claiming Paru paru all 325 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: day out there in New Jersey. So they claiming it hard. 326 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: I just think it was. It wasn't he could have 327 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: been doing it, but I think he could have been 328 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: schooled a little better. He could have been and sheltered, 329 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: meaning bagging up. We got this. He took off, he 330 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: took off. He took off quick. And this is being 331 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: Reggie disagreed. You can't take off on nothing you don't know. Oh, 332 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm talking when he took off running quick. 333 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, he just from Cali and you didn't 334 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: lost your ship. Somebody that took it from you, and 335 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: you a gangster, and I see the dude that did me, 336 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm going after him. I'm not being a whisper, the 337 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: Tupac of all people. I'm not gonna ho a Tupac. 338 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the big home where the whisper 339 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: come from, because the whisper comes from Frank Frank Alexander 340 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: the security jail. And he put a bullet in his 341 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: head and put a gun in his mouth and killed 342 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: himself because he's a coward. But he did killed his 343 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: dead is no longer with us in front of his wife. 344 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: But my point, uh, Trayvonn Lane, just to be fair. 345 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: His his version is he was talking to his homies 346 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: neck Bone Bounty Shug and all of that park overheard 347 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: him talking about, Hey, there's the guy that tried to 348 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: take my chain at the mall in the Lakewood Mall, 349 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: and Park took off a rant. He said, no time 350 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: shows Trayvon and Park standing side by side. This is 351 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: my No, they're not standing side by side. Whisper no, no, no, no. 352 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: He came over there and start talking. I never said 353 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: the name. I just heard. I just heard how it 354 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: went down. And if it goes down like that, Park 355 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't never been in that position to do that. You 356 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: ain't got you ain't got it like that was walking 357 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: on the side of Park when he's that's not that's 358 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Frank Alexander, his security guy, the Big Frank. That's the 359 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Big Frank, Big Frank, Big Frank, and Park. We're walking together. 360 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Trayvon walks up to them. That's Big Frank. That's Frank. 361 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: So right before Pop hits Orlando Anderson, who's the guy 362 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: next to Park walking through the casino lobby, right before 363 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: he hits Orlando Anderson or approaches Orlando Anderson. The only 364 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: person I was saw it was Frank alright, But Trayvon 365 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: walks up towards them. But the person that I was 366 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: in there that's walking with Frank and Frank has a mustache, 367 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: a very big mustache, right, it had like a vest 368 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: on tank top, black vests. Have to look at that 369 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: footage again, Tames, Yeah, yeah, Well the main thing was 370 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: that did Park have any problems at death Row considering 371 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: he was hanging out with crips before he got there. 372 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: I think every I think everybody at death ruin Bridge Park, 373 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Ya don't remember. We had a culture that was kind 374 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: of accepted around there. It was like a free zone 375 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: because you had a bunch of cryptal came through the area. 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: You know, he had tradd big c style uh um, 377 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: a little not a little out there a little half 378 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: did at one time rb X that up because it 379 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: sure it was his business. There was actually more crips 380 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: that were signed making music. Really didn't have made no money, 381 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: but it was all crips. But that's money. So everybody 382 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: knew what the atmosphere was. Those cats wouldn't being to 383 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: get out of line, so everybody knew this is this 384 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: is how we get to check and Quick Quick was there. 385 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: Quick was actually signed the profile, but you know he 386 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: was there doing some producer with all that money was 387 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: coming in through crip artists exactly and some but that 388 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: was because of drape choosing. Drake ran the production side 389 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: the company and till the end until our hero part came. 390 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: Man did this divide and conquer Alright, let's say that 391 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: for another subject though. Okay, let's move on to kief 392 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: E D from south Side Compton Crip. He just released 393 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: his book a couple of weeks ago. What do you 394 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: think about a guy writing a book I tell all 395 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: book about I mean everything from drug dealing to shootings 396 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to to what happened to pock that night. Yeah, it 397 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: ain't the first time you got mafia's writing books. It 398 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: all depends on the person that's writing the book, though, 399 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's just tell 400 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: all story about himself. That's cool, But okay, it's up 401 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: to me to read. I want to read what he's doing. Now. 402 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people. If you're sitting in the penitentiary 403 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: and you say, man, look at read this fool book. 404 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: If everybody in the penitentiary read that book and turn 405 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: it upside down and say this cat out of line, 406 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: he can't go to prison, that's something totally different. But 407 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you got everybody got their own opinion on on what 408 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: they want to write, what their material is and and 409 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: the way I hear because I haven't read the book, 410 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: you know. I'm mean, honestly, would you say he telling 411 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: on somebody here, telling on somebody that's dead, which is 412 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: his nephew. I think that's cutting the kind of chicken ship. 413 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: That's chicken ship for him to speak on his nephew. 414 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: But is that telling well before before his nephew died. 415 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I mean before he told this story before one of 416 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: the other persons, the driver of the car, was dead. 417 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: He correct, So he told the story before then. But 418 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: don't care. Dre died, big Dre. Uh. He died of 419 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: health complications. Yeah, they say obesity or something like that. 420 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: I heard his his girl was investigator for rat poison. 421 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: But that's another story. Um. But yeah, but but he 422 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: was dead in Orlando. Was dead. He was killed in 423 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: a shooting and counter unrelated in a drug deal. But yeah, 424 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: So throwing your nephew under the bus, even though he's deceased, 425 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people say that's snitching, that was that's 426 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: a low blow. He'll just save himself because his mama, 427 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: his uncle, and KPD was going to life for doing 428 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: some PCP. I'm not saying this. I'm just telling telling 429 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: the story what he did. He figured, Okay, I'm gonna 430 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: jump on this. I might just want to tell the story. 431 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: They're gone. If they give me immunity, then I can 432 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: tell his story and tell the truth, and boom, I'm out. 433 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: Now I didn't use this ticket to get out of jail. 434 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, come on, I'll tell you all the story. 435 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: And and here we go. The centry in the book, Yeah, 436 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: it is the deal of the centry. You you're you're 437 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: looking at life in the in the fads. So I 438 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: tell y'all, I killed Tupac, my nephew, gonna sho he 439 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: ain't even to do no time where he told the truth. 440 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: He told expiracly, Well, I'm talking about the shooting. That's 441 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: all I care about. You know. When he tells the 442 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: truth about that, all of that bullshit about he had 443 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: for me and I was and all of that, you know, 444 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: of course, I'm gonna make myself look good. And that's 445 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: all he's doing. I don't know if his whole story 446 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: is the truth, because he's saying puff Daddy was behind 447 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: the weapon and the reason why the weapon, uh what 448 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: came from von zip Zip was supposed to be did 449 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: he's dude. So he's implicating Well is resting in peace too. 450 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: He died from health complications, but he wasn't there when 451 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: when he told the story, correct, it wasn't there. But 452 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: he mainly just saying put up the money or put 453 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: up the you know, put the bounty out there for 454 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: it to go down. And so he did a two 455 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: for one. He figured, Hey, my nephew just got beat up. 456 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: The niggas just assaulted my nephew, and and I got 457 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: some money. Um, you know, Puff want to put them 458 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: and dollars only niggas here, Let's do that ship. Do 459 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: you believe Puff was um the conversation. I believe he 460 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: had that conversation. How serious it was this nigga talking 461 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: because he never got any money from Puff Well, he says, uh, 462 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: von Zip and got half five. That's the story goes 463 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that Zip got five, Zip kept it. Yeah, So according 464 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: to Kifi d he never got any money. He didn't 465 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: get supposed to get that was money via Puff Daddy. Correct. 466 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: So it's just it's just chelling. That's what I want 467 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: to know from you man. Yeah. I don't have a 468 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: problem with people, but it is snitching. When he told 469 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Greg Katie the whole story, no doubt about it. Anti 470 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: Bone will still aliven even though even though his his 471 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: admission did not lead to any indictments, any arrest, anyone 472 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: going to jail at all. Yeah, now you gotta ask, 473 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: you said, why so if you write a book or 474 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: tell a book like this, Let's get this, let's get 475 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: this clear. That was not what Gray Katians was there 476 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: to investigator. He wanted to know about Biggie exactly. So 477 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: let's just make that because everybody out there, Yeah, that's 478 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: why he told that lie. That's why he told them. 479 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: When you think about it, if Greg Katie's was there 480 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: to cover up for l ap D and get this 481 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: lawsuit or this judgment to get his mother convinced to 482 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: drop this case, wouldn't Greg Katie said, Hey, no, no, no, 483 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: we need you to make up the line about Biggie 484 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: not not not not too far. So let's let's let's 485 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: just put that out before we get there, before we, 486 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, dismiss everything to keep you saying because or 487 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: saying that it's this big conspiracy by the law enforcement order, 488 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: the police, because that if that's what Greg was trying 489 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: to do, that's what Greg would have had done if 490 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: he was that type of cop. I don't believe that's 491 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: what it was down. But some of you out there 492 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: that is, well, I know that law enforcement was close 493 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: by when Biggie got killed. There's pictures of Biggie from 494 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: that day that we're taken by law enforcement agencies. I mean, 495 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and they swear that they left that day they got 496 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: the cover black. I don't know these New York cops. Now, yeah, York, 497 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: they got photos of bigg that day. They're not around 498 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: when I don't know. That's a little spicious to me, right, 499 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: these are New York cops. I think they were at 500 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Johnny's Cafe Caddy corner from the Peterson Museum watching the 501 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: whole thing. They were following Biggie day. That's what most 502 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: people don't know. Biggie's about to get indicting's on the 503 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: federal indictment for those guns. I believe it was a 504 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: guncase that was investigating back in New York. But yeah, 505 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I could understand why that people believe law enforcement had 506 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: something to do or knew or turned the other cheek 507 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: when when that shooting happened on Fairfax and Wilson, when 508 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Biggie got killed, where were the police that was survailing Biggie. 509 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: I saw them photos of them. I'm like, Okay, you 510 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: don't give a funk what happened to Biggie at all. 511 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Probably would have bought the nigga a drink, that did it. 512 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Why do you got that resentment for Biggie all right? 513 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: Believe that they were responsible for the Delta Tupac I 514 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: do too. Ultimately, you think Biggie Keith, you d never 515 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: even change that chain of reaction in Keifi D's admission, 516 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: what you said is the truth. How often? How many 517 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: times did he mentioned Biggie? Oh that was the whole thing. 518 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: It was five hundred for sure. Five that's puff daddy. Yeah, 519 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: but that's for his boy because they were mad because 520 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: number one he was sucking on his white faith. And 521 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: number two he was mad because, uh, hit them up 522 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: just came out. You got a point. That was the 523 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: baddest dis track and rap history. Oh that's the tough one. 524 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: One man hit him up. But to hit him up 525 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: with the video. Can't listen to hit him up no more? 526 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: After that was hard. I can listen to it no 527 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: more though, because it makes us look like little weenies 528 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: after you play it, man, right, but it was no 529 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Vassil still could be true all right, But on the 530 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: on the book. I wouldn't buy the book man because um, 531 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of keep D. Yeah, I 532 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: know he ain't a big fan of mine either, but 533 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like curious to read it because I 534 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: want to know. I got a copy. I said it 535 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: to you. I'm emailing all copies. Don't go and buy. 536 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: You ain't gotta buy, right, I'll send it to you. 537 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna sit down and have a couple of coffee 538 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: over so you So you bet you ain't gonna buy. 539 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I didn't buy, Okay, what about you, Alex, you wouldn't buy. Actually, Keepee. 540 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: These people slipping me a copy of it about six 541 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: months ago, so I don't know if the version I 542 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: read is the same version that they published. So I 543 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: don't want to speak on it because they might have 544 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: taken things out that I might say right now, you know. 545 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much of changed since they 546 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: gave it to me back and August. But I had 547 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: a question about this immunity that Katin gave to kif D. 548 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: He's l a p D and I believe task Force right, 549 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: So that does that immunity also transferred to the federal level. Well, 550 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: that's what it was for. He was working on the 551 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: text force was they were granted under the d A. 552 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: So he can never be federally indicted, then ked correct, 553 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: But Las Vegas can indict him. The state of Nevada 554 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: can indict him if they wanted to, but they can't. You, 555 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: But this is what's crazy about it. They can do it, 556 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: but it's hard to indict a person just based on 557 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: self incrimination, and so they will need more like a 558 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: witness like Chick Knight to come up and say hey, 559 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: it was him and find a weapon and all of that. 560 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: But why y'all think kepd putting in there the park shot. 561 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: So that's what's he was in his book. Now he 562 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: tried to set up a mother fucking self defense by 563 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: saying parking them shot and then that's when they start shooting. 564 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: So he covered his trash now covering the tracks and 565 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: so that's why, and so that's why people like will 566 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: put him in jail. Why didn't do that? It's because 567 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: people come in all the time, um, admitting to murders 568 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: and ship that for the attention that they had nothing 569 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: to do. It had no parts to do it. Well, 570 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: that would be a sad thing for him to put 571 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: everybody out there like that and just say he wasn't there, 572 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: so we know he was there. He ain't saying he 573 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: wasn't there. No, I'm just saying what Reggie was saying, 574 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: so we know you're there, so the police know he there. 575 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna give you immunity. Come on, man, I 576 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: don't understand. You got a man that lost his life. 577 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: They thought they was gonna get the Biggie shooter because 578 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: the police were being implicated in that. So Greg Katie 579 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: was probably willing to give this man whatever he needed 580 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: so he can get the gave it to him before 581 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: he said what he gave it already was given. But 582 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: they thought they will get the biggie. He thought he 583 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: was gonna come out to the Biggie murder. Kadding should 584 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: have known what Keith he deal was gonna say before 585 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: they offered him all that immunity. They thought they had 586 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: had him on the biggie on the Biggie thing. But 587 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: like I said, the immunity, he's outside of it. He 588 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: didn't did the death Row chronicles where he didn't talked 589 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: outside of the Immunity in Vegas p D which out 590 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: here and they are watching this close. They are reading 591 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: this book closely. They are reading it. But it's so 592 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: much that they can do because they couldn't give the 593 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Federal Task Force can't even get uh immunity to keep 594 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: D based on on on the murder they were still 595 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: but Greg Hati's and them can't come and testify to 596 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: what was said. But keep you D didn't did two 597 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: things outside of this immunity agreement they call the queen 598 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: for a day or whatever. Uh that if they really 599 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: wanted to uh make some noise, they could. The only 600 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: thing they had to do is go pull those tastes 601 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: from death Row chronicles and go pull the tape from 602 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: um uh well from the book. Read the book, his 603 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: own book, his own book. Um you know he trying 604 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: to put up a self defense claim in there, but 605 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: he didn't do that the first time. Yeah, that's all 606 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: new information, that's all new information. What's the chances that 607 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: the state of Nevada Las Vegas would even want to 608 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: close this case out? They don't want it, They didn't 609 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: want it. But let's your night come up and say, 610 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we need to be putting pressure on shore, 611 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't you see? He said, y'all look at each other 612 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: right in the eyes. Let's you get a come to Jesus. 613 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Imagine if that if they went, they went to prison, 614 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: and God shouldn't be with us against Keith. You d 615 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: so that should can get some some of that twenty 616 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: eight years taking off. He might do it. He might 617 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: do it. You're not got looking to get released until 618 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: LEAs in his early seventies. Let let's get police come 619 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: to him and present that to him. That's a great 620 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: pole question. Roll over on KEI DM Wells Daddy. Now, well, 621 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: you know Shug has always had that persona that I 622 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: don't cooperate with the police. I don't talk the police. 623 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Um well, me and myself. I said, I ain't bashing 624 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: Shig no more. But uh, Sugar is full of ship. 625 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: You just heard Reggie saying. So I'm just clarifying with 626 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: Regish that ship fully ship Sugar is working right now. 627 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: But I didn't have some some homies call me and 628 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: tell me some things that he've been calling people from 629 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: jail talking about folk right now, talking about you, I 630 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: mean everybody about you. I didn't tell you about it. 631 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you about it. Well, you know 632 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: when he got sent to Donovan State Prison, he he 633 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: opted out of the general population and decided to go on. Well, 634 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: he had to get a sensitive needs y. Yeah, he 635 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: had to get his health right. So I don't blame 636 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: me for that. But Donovan has a health facility there 637 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: and it has access to the general populations. Not what 638 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: you say, you gotta get a shop, right, what's wrong 639 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: with it? She had to get an operation. Ship couldn't see. 640 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: And I bet though that, I mean, I don't want 641 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: to go in jail. I'm gonna give me some first 642 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: hand information. I have a friend that was on that 643 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: yard and he said that Sugar walked out on the 644 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: yard and about ten fifteen minutes later walked right back 645 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: in and they ain't seen him since. My boy, like 646 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: one hun, which I know mosta y'all hate out there. 647 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: He had him, had dudes on there and protected ready 648 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: to look out and all of that, and every something 649 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: white even lost respect for him. Yeah. I don't think 650 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: anything was gonna happen to Sugar on that yard, at 651 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: least not within the first couple of years. No, no, no, 652 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: I think it would have been very sooner than that. 653 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Man Sugar has has Burness bridges with a lot of 654 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: people and a lot of gang bangers. Sugar Sugar had 655 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: made a lot of broken promises. A lot of people 656 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: have gotten hurting behind his Shenanigans, his lives, his bullshit, 657 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have gotten killed. I think 658 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: the main one is Terry Carter. A lot of guys 659 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: love that brother. And Terry Carter got nephews and right now, 660 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: not just only that he has people, he has friends. 661 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you got a man who's looking out for 662 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: brothers in the penitentiary when they ain't got no family. 663 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm loyal to this cat. He was a good dude, 664 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: this nigga best friend right now and in prison. That's 665 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: why I'm so mad at him. Who's so disappointed? Fucking 666 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: Waymon Anderson. Y'all go do some research and Wyman and 667 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Waymon Anderson is the guy is on the internet talking 668 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: about that he was called this nigga been in just 669 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: six but he always get a call. He said, bone 670 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: and and and all of them was called and and 671 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: and called him, called him the call shill to set 672 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: him up to have him come over to towns Burger. 673 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: This is a food that goes and this makeup ship 674 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: to try to get law enforcement, to try to get 675 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: out of jail. And now he out here hanging out 676 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: with this dude that's been saying all of this mud 677 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: and putting all of this bullshit out with the with 678 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: these old white men on YouTube and making all this up, 679 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: and now he's hanging out giving this dude ammunition. Y'all 680 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: mark my word. In the next couple of months, this 681 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: food Waymon Anderson gonna be coming out with something telling 682 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: all all the lies and creating ship on ship at night. Um. 683 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy, and it's unfortunate that who's ever advising him 684 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: and who's ever you know he's talking to is not 685 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: pulling this coatail because people don't know ship, don't read. 686 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: He can't read, and and so he don't even know 687 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: most of the stuff that's going on. He just goes 688 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: about what he listened to and what other people tell 689 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: him and interpret things from there. He didn't they're talking ship. 690 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna write him now, I meant to call 691 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: you and tell you lead that long, but we'll talk 692 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: about this off here. So this guy Waymon Anderson popped 693 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: up on any documentaries yet, Uh, no white boys are 694 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: r J and Michael Carlin and all of them this 695 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: out there, he'd be dealing and dealing with them. He's 696 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: a crazy crappie. Oh he's the idiot. He's it doesn't 697 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: even sound credible. All your house snich is incredible, is incredible. 698 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a question anybody to listen to his bullshit. They 699 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: know he's full of ship. But the unfortunate thing is ship. 700 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: I don't know much about him, and now he's all 701 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: up under ing um. But it's gonna be interesting. I'll 702 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: just wait to see what comes out in the next 703 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: few months are and when he last starts on keep 704 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: you D's book. And this is a lot of his 705 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: lives and made up, I mean, exaggerated, but he got 706 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: to the gest of it. And that's unfortunate about it, 707 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, because some of the stuff I want to believe. 708 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to set up here and 709 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: criticize it because he say, well, you believe if one 710 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: thing is a lot and everything is a lot. I 711 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I I do believe people exaggerate things 712 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: and all of that, but it's kind of hard to 713 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: read a book like that when you know, OK, this 714 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 1: might be true. This is definitely true. This is a lie. 715 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: But people do right like that. And that's and that's 716 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: what he did. I mean once he he lost me. 717 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: Once he said Tupac enough started shooting back. I understand 718 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: why he did that. You know, when they when they 719 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: went back to the car, the gun was gone. He 720 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't say that the first time. Uh you know he 721 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: well he said that me and my dad was dirty 722 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: and we was out there doing stuff. Talk he talked 723 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: about that the detective forever. Yeah, he talked bad. But 724 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: but that's expected. Um, you know, that's expected of him. 725 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: But that's why I could be like, well, I believe 726 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: this is this is what happened, but I know you 727 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: lied about this. This isn't this. That's that's my point. 728 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to I'm trying to find 729 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: out if it's true that Sugar actually looked right at him. 730 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe she on him. I know, suld me 731 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and shug them been in clubs and stuff where I said, oh, 732 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: you know that's on. So that's so on. So that's 733 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: Bond zeal And he ended up having cool Who do 734 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: people were? I really don't believe. So he has never 735 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: came home and said all that was that was me 736 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: and he wasn't sitting around and we didn't talk about everything. 737 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: You gotta remember, I satting in that prison with that 738 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: nigga four days a week for five and a half years. 739 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: Talk you just run out of talk about. So you 740 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: talk about your life everything in his life for five 741 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: and a half years. Is it true he know Keithie 742 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: since they were young. Yeah, and he probably did, but 743 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: he didn't know, you know who exactly who he was. 744 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: He didn knew he was one of Pat Johnson boys 745 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: that brought it back to him. She didn't have no 746 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: when he came. I don't think she knew who are who? All? 747 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh God, know you from my school or junior high. 748 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: But I don't know you hooked up with a click 749 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: meaning a gang, I ain't. I don't think he was 750 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: too much up on that. You remember he was running 751 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: with a big West and all of those dudes. He 752 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: was running mainly West side dudes. Um when he came around, 753 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: everybody think he was this big, you know, mob guy 754 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: that came over there. I mean, I don't take no 755 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: credit from him because even as a regular guy, which 756 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I grew up like a regular guy. You didn't mess 757 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: with him. He always had a good size on him. 758 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: He had his cousins, Ronald Donald, who was no joke, 759 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: and he was a year older than him. And so 760 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: you know you got three a cousin and nephews. I mean, 761 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know your three big guys. Sugar starts 762 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: something and the Sugar that never had to fight with them. 763 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: It was always the twins. Well, buyer, beware, if you 764 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: decided to get a key Fid book, Uh, I'm gonna 765 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get it just because I like reading 766 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: this stuff. I like reading the history. I told you 767 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: how you can get it. I'm actually gonna purchase the book. 768 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody doing that to my future book 769 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: when it comes out. All right, let's move on to, uh, 770 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: what Suge Knight actually said about Nipsey Hustle a couple 771 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I guess he gave an interview over 772 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: the phone and he said that, um, that one of 773 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: the reasons why nip got killed was because he was 774 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: too loyal to the neighborhood and that, um, that's what 775 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: basically got him killed. And I guess Sugar was basically saying, 776 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: I could relate to Nipsey because he claiming he did 777 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: the same thing. I don't remember caner call should did 778 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: the same nothing with Sugar loyal of my piru. It 779 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: all depends to what to what degree loyal likes. A 780 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of people made some money, A lot of a 781 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: lot of people from my paru and louts park right, 782 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: Reggie got their pockets full. Well, I wouldn't say pockets full, 783 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: but I did. I wasn't fortunate enough. I knew how 784 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: to give my money. But they got paid. They had 785 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: a job. And what I'm saying by that and they 786 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: need to be grateful for that because I need a 787 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: job like that now where I'm just getting a regular 788 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: salary coming in weekly or every two weeks, and meaning 789 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: they had you know, they nigger straight out of jail, 790 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: all of prison. Uh probably didn't finish high school or whatever. 791 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that they're done with sparklets, most 792 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: of them they're not. They were no dummies. But giving 793 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: a job that they got was making anywhere from a 794 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: thousand and four thousand dollars a month, I think you 795 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: should be appreciative of that. And I don't think nobody 796 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: said ore could ever say that they didn't appreciate what 797 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,479 Speaker 1: you did the way he did. It was the fund 798 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: up part about it. Did nobody prosper from just having 799 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: a job. The job description should have paid more. I 800 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: have more respect for you by being okay you you 801 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: don't you know how mean you you're from the hood. 802 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: I want you to work for me, and this is 803 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Okay, you're paying Everybody making a 804 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: different amount of money. Someone's making five dollars every two 805 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: weeks and whatever. Everybody doing the same damn job. Pretty much. 806 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: Some people were just sitting around, and he just hadn't 807 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 1: sit around and stay at the officers and do whatever. 808 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: But those people that physically got their hands dirty, those 809 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: that was out there flying and and fighting and doing whatever. 810 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think no money amount to what happened. 811 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: So you can't. And I'm not gonna put Shod in 812 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: a position to where I can say he did the 813 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: same thing or he was loyal as if like Nipsey, 814 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: this guy was putting back in his neighborhood. Shouldn't put 815 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: what should put in our neighborhood. He didn't build anything 816 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: or do anything. Okay, the only thing should did is 817 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: called chaos. And I'll say that he did build some 818 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: stuff at the gymnasiums, at the schools schools that now centennial, 819 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: and he did put on some weights, uh for the 820 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: little stuff like that, but nothing, nothing compared to And 821 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make you I'm not trying to 822 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: hype Nipcy and nothing like that. But what he said 823 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: to TMZ is is totally false. Your loyalty, what was 824 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: your loyalty when all these cats was killed? He should 825 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: never use that word. He should never use the word loyalty. 826 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then at the end 827 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,959 Speaker 1: of the day, you get twenty eight years and I'm 828 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: laughing because it's funny. I'm laughing because it's sad exactly. 829 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: So you ain't run nothing but death to our neighborhood, 830 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: nothing but death draw our neighborhood with this dude was 831 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: Nipsey was helping his community, helping the kids. You ain't 832 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: help our kids. Well, he did a lot of turkey givaways, 833 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: He did a lot of Christmas things. Every year. I 834 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: need a hot dog in five seconds, and limousine did 835 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: that as well. And how many you know, I mean 836 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people does that, you know, the Turkey giveaways, 837 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: the Christmas, the toy giveaways and a place called home. 838 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: He did some stuff there, Danny Bake Well with the 839 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: Brotherhood crew saying, so he did. Don't I remember going 840 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: to the children hospitals where we put some Nintendo things 841 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: for the kids at the hospitals and stuff like that. 842 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: But we're not talking about I know y'all talking about hood. 843 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: We're talking about Rose Cress and Long Beach Bullets, hood though, 844 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: Shug then hanging the hood like Nipsey hanging his hood, 845 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: shooting and coming the apartment in downtown l A. And 846 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: he and he moved to Atlanta. So I mean that 847 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: that's just dumb to have a house where you you 848 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: you know, everybody know where you're gonna be every night. 849 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know she'll lived over there at 850 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: his mama house one one time, one day a week 851 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,479 Speaker 1: or something like that. If you don't know, you wasn't 852 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: supposed to. I wouldn't have wanted them over there. And 853 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: did everybody know where to get to you? Hey come 854 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: with all of their Mama bills And then word loyalty. 855 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: You think she was had loyalty? Honestly, he had loyalty 856 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: to Bountry. I believe it was a certain ones at 857 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: certain times he had loyalty too. I'm gonna put it 858 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: out there, having his fucking mockery and the half of 859 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: that he says. She says, ship is the reason why 860 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: them cats are gone. I'm trying to people sugar coating 861 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: that ship not for real, for real, that's not loyalty, man, 862 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: that's not loyalty. But then you can go pay somebody, 863 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: somebody outside that they never fought for you. I did nothing, 864 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Grant. But these dudes that what they like on 865 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: the line every day, every day. They never touched something big. 866 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: They never touched nothing. So, man, tell me whatn't loyalty yet? 867 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: Loyd is supposed to be to your friends and your family, 868 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: not outside people. But James lit me this story scenario. 869 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: Come on, you're getting four to five a month. You 870 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: don't mean nothing, you got you don't have, You got 871 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: an automobile that you don't pay. Ain't talking about you, 872 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that work for him. They had 873 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: cell phone bills, which we know in the nineties for 874 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: cell phone bill was you can run up a two 875 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: three cell phone bill back then like crazy he wasn't 876 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: paying no insurance on your car. Now, you didn't have 877 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: no health insurance or anything like that. That's one thing 878 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: you didn't have. You got to travel and go, you know, 879 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: set on the fifty yard line at football games and 880 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: and all of that. Stayed in the same hotel that 881 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: he did at the four season hotels and all of that. 882 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: But thirty years old, he looked, you don't. I'm just 883 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: staying James, and I understand, here's the hunt down chat, 884 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: here's a hun chat. Here's that he never did that. Um, 885 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if any sing give me the option 886 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: to say. And that's what James upstaid. So people don't understand. 887 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: I take that and go, bam, I'm gonna stay with you. 888 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: You showed me you got me. But there was a 889 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar com You can't say that. You can't 890 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: say what he never did. And then it's crazy how 891 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: you sitting there saying right now he sell phones and 892 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I know that's looking out for 893 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: your people and try to say what one would you 894 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: really have? At what she have? Death broke like that 895 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: and cracking like that, and people scared of him if 896 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: he didn't have us behind him. Would he be so successful? 897 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: You after that question and tell me if it was 898 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: worth I think he would have winned God another another, 899 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: another set, and that would have been better off that 900 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: he did that. Everybody else would have been alive. And 901 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: you didn't bring death to your own neighborhood. That's what 902 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: he brought to his community. Death. And I don't care 903 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: how nobody said. And I'm tired of these cats sugar 904 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: coating the Sugar Night, Sugar Night, don't nigga, don't use 905 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,959 Speaker 1: word loyalty. You didn't have that there happy these dudes 906 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: is dead because the word of mouth when the mainstream interview, 907 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: mainstream media interviews should they don't never bring up all 908 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: the negative path that death Row left behind. They're not 909 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and bring up all the deceased people 910 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: in an interview with Shugar. Scared to even go there 911 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: with Sugar. Most of this known. I mean, people like 912 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: James and all of that. I just documented over a 913 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: dozen homicides linked to death Row records. But you don't 914 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: see the man extream media even questioning Sugar about that, 915 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: but said he had the same problem. Most of the 916 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: artists had the same parliament as I have. Everything that 917 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: we do has grown. Man, it's my choice. You choose 918 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: to come hang with the hood because you were the 919 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: hood two hours a day, you with five or six 920 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: of the homies wherever you go. That's my choice. Your 921 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: job was not a nine or five. Your job was 922 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: a four. At my line, I think. I think Sugars 923 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: just trying to say I'm a street dude. I'm always 924 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: gonna be street, I'm not gonna sell out to Hollywood. 925 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: And that's what Nip was. Let's rephrase it and say 926 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm a street cat and I've had money and have money. 927 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: We both made the same choices to keep going back 928 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: to our neighborhoods. And this is the result of going 929 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: back to your neighborhood. That's not the result. You know 930 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You didn't get killed. I mean, Sho 931 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: got shot six times, not in the neighborhood, not by 932 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: the homie, but I'm sure it was someone I didn't. Yeah, 933 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's the only place that they felt like they 934 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: can get him. That was working with other people. And 935 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: then Sugar knocked out one day in front of another club. 936 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: He didn't have. He was everybody. What I'm saying it 937 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: was ended up. He's just been fortunate that it never crossed. 938 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: He was lucky because he know how to dodge. He 939 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: know how to dodge, and he got out of dodge 940 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: that his situation where got him where he had? Now 941 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: he panicked just the true shugar came out. He was 942 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: trying to get the funk out of that. That was 943 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: his thing, and he he went blind and it couldn't 944 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: see now. I bet you see now. But I mean, 945 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, nothing was worth should made up. 946 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: He should have never said that. He should have never 947 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: said that. Now, how come should didn't when when the 948 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 1: money he was coming in and death row during those years, 949 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars? Why didn't he start other businesses, 950 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: other satellite companies outside of music? Because he always thought 951 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: was gonna keep coming in that And this is one 952 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: thing I learned. We should We was all running around 953 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: four We was riding around in our callacs. I had 954 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: a seventy seven Calliac days whatever, Uh sixty five Chivvy 955 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: Pierre had a Cadillac, but you had a glasshouse. Uh uh. 956 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: We all riding around and hood cars. Why he leading 957 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: us in the bends? He loved that attention. None of 958 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: the brawns came, not caught. They were just starting to 959 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: come in. They went straight to the bench starting to 960 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: come in. So that's that, That was the whole thing. 961 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of no, no, you see what I'm saying. 962 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: Hold up now, in the difference everybody got their mia rings, 963 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: his damn rings just got damn big and artists. You're 964 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: looking at it like this, like damn. If it wasn't 965 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: for us doing what we did or being there four 966 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: you can say that I don't shug when it did it. 967 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: He wouldn't. The cats wouldn't have been scared of sugar 968 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: like that. They just stepped on sugar long time ago. 969 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: But they already knew. They already knew. And this is 970 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: this is not just try to take care of too 971 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: many guys. But we probably should have took care for 972 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: or five dudes and took care of them and didn't 973 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: let the rest of them take care of the homies. Yeah, 974 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: but I do credit a lot to ma Paru and 975 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: Ludus park Paru for making death Throw what it was. 976 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: I think those dudes are a big part of the 977 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: identity of Death Throw, even though they weren't artists. They 978 00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: weren't rappers, they weren't producing platinum records. They were Hey, 979 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: why are y'all talking about the dudes? Those are the 980 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: niggas that protect us? And then I love that song 981 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: and Pok actually mentions everybody, including your brother that it's 982 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: it's and that wasn't And that wasn't the hitters. That 983 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: wasn't its. No, that wasn't. That wasn't the quiet, That 984 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the one that you hear, not one of them, 985 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: And that song was the ones that you would have 986 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: had the fear, well you mentioned heron I know, not 987 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 1: one of them, and that song you had the fear 988 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: of that way, those were to do those on spot 989 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: on scene that when you go somewhere in the club 990 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: that you would have to But they wasn't. Yeah that No, 991 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: that wasn't one of the times. And you know, I mean, 992 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, she can say what you want right now 993 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: my whole thing. And I was gonna write to do 994 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: the letter, but I'm gonna put a hold on that. 995 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, take credit for what you did. You know 996 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You take responsibility, responsibility for what you did. 997 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for the correction, But he's not gonna do that. 998 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: He ain't gonna do that. He's gonna shit in there 999 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: and he's gonna ship. Wait, he's sitting talking ship, but 1000 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: stay over there because you know he can't go to 1001 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 1: the main line. If you do. I applaud it. I applauded. 1002 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: But man, I'm telling you he heard a lot of 1003 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: people more than just us. You got Mama's until the 1004 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: whole line out there, and and his intent was good. 1005 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: Well how about this? Would you say that he put 1006 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: these people's career on the map, snoop, and then from 1007 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: these artists other people came, Like how many other people 1008 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: followed in the steps of the people that should put 1009 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: on death Roam the groups all the spinoff groups and 1010 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: they're spinoff groups and those groups groups, it's like over 1011 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: fifty rappers probably, just imagine, but only four of them 1012 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,919 Speaker 1: came out. Um, and I'm not gonna shoot on Ship. 1013 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot on him because I'm about 1014 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: to though. But all of those people that that we know, 1015 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: other than Park and maybe Danny Boy who women them, 1016 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: is right if it wasn't for death Row, No, that's 1017 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: not true. Eminem comes through who through Jimmy Ivan, his 1018 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: personal assistant, Dean Dean, I mean Dean and then found 1019 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,439 Speaker 1: even they didn't want to eventually put it more. But 1020 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: my point to this is, Drew, I'm not a Dray guy, man, 1021 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm much your guy. She is the one that took 1022 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: care of me and put me in the position to 1023 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: where I'm here right now where somebody listening to me talk. 1024 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for him or whatever, people wouldn't know 1025 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: who the hell Reggie Right is. Still don't give him. Yeah, 1026 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: But my point is Dre was the one that made 1027 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: all those people that you name stars. She was just 1028 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: in the position the new Dick Griffy who told him 1029 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: let's go over here and take this to John McClain 1030 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: who was working over at Interscope and and hey, ask 1031 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: for your masters or you beat on, you know, on 1032 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: your own masters. And Dick Griffy, Dick Griffy and Dre 1033 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: were really the ones that made that road. Should just 1034 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: happened to be in the position and had the enough 1035 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: guts to funk over Dick Griffy and DLC. Well, this 1036 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: whole Sugar Night comment is about Nipsey and and how 1037 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: Nipsey got killed and is it even is it even 1038 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: true that Nipsey got killed because he had loyalty to 1039 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: his hood, or is there a different reason why he 1040 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: was killed. Las got killed because he dissed a dude 1041 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: that he was hanging out with and was cool with 1042 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: you a few months ago, a prior, and he dissed 1043 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: that man in front of a dude that just got 1044 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: out of prison not too long ago. So what you're saying, Reggie, 1045 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: if he would have kept his mouth shut that day 1046 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: in that parking lot, he'd still be alive, and no 1047 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: one probably inside the location to make that man come back. 1048 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: If he would have just played it, you know, or 1049 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: had one of his homeboys telling him, hey, he can't 1050 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: come to the store, would be around here. But he 1051 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: talked to a gunner. He talked to a dude that 1052 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: that you you shouldn't talk to like that. But a 1053 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of people think that when you get to that 1054 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: status that nip was at. You know, he was worth 1055 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: several million dollars, He had his hits out, he was 1056 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: nominated for Grammy. That you shouldn't be posted up on 1057 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: slassing and crunch Shawl home. He felt comfortable there. He shouldn't, 1058 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: but he felt comfortable. They said, I haven't heard a 1059 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: many times where he's been standing out and stop in 1060 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: front of the store where he just took pictures and 1061 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: was hanging out and greeting, you know people, because he 1062 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: made that a popular location that crunchedhall and lost a 1063 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: lot of people. It almost became like Pinks, are you 1064 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: know Roscolls or something like that. I said, only outer 1065 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: towners really go to Pinks and Roscoll's. How often do 1066 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: we in l A really go to Roscoll's or Pink 1067 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: and have a pink doll? But which rapper do we 1068 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: know in the past kind of lived their life like that? 1069 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: Like Snoop wouldn't be posted up on twenty first three 1070 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: and Long Beach as the star rapper he came. You know, well, 1071 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: but some some of the reasons why, you know, your 1072 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: big homies, your big homies gonna come and say they 1073 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: won't this. Your big homies are gonna come and say 1074 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: they won't that. You're going have a homie over here, 1075 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: say let me get this, and then you don't now 1076 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and there's a problem. I don't think if she had 1077 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: that problem, I'm not too sure. So whatever was going 1078 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: on with him and his in his hood, ain't nothing 1079 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: wrong with going back to where you're from, you should 1080 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: be able to you know what I'm saying. But if 1081 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: you're able to, it only takes one person to say, oh, man, 1082 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I ain't digging this cat no more. Is that risky? Yeah, 1083 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it's risky because you're taking it. You're taking the chance. 1084 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Every time you go to the hood you might run 1085 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: into one of the homies drunk and he's tripping and 1086 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: you don't give him nothing now, and you think everybody 1087 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: think that that that you owe him something. I don't 1088 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: owe you nothing. And like when I started doing these 1089 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: interviews and ship, everybody was saying that I was talking like, 1090 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: shook owe me something. I never said nothing about money. 1091 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: He owed me my brother life. You know what I'm saying, um, 1092 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: And then I you have to think about it because 1093 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: you're taking it too far. Because my brother was a 1094 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: grown ass man. He knew what the funk he was 1095 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: doing out there. He knew he knew the game. He 1096 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: knew the game. My brother though, but if if I 1097 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: make millions of dollars, I should be able to go 1098 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: back to the hood and and and if my purpose 1099 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: is to clean the hood up and fixed the hood, man, 1100 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: you get people to do it, and you oversee the 1101 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: ship from the sidelines. You got to because I don't 1102 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: want to run into some of the homies. Are these 1103 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: new little young homies, and they the ones that's you know, 1104 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: gun hold and this and that. But yeah, man, that 1105 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: that guy should and anybody else should be able to 1106 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: go back to the hood and kick it by buy 1107 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a house in the hood and living the hood. You think, 1108 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna try to bring that mother because they 1109 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: know they got ship in there. Yeah, So that's just 1110 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: how how it is. Back to the hood and you're 1111 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: hanging out in the hood, you still gotta go by 1112 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: the hoods colds and you know, call somebody a snitch 1113 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: he was giving by the cold. Well, calling that man 1114 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: a snitch like that, you know, you better be ready 1115 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: because you know there might be some consequences that they 1116 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: might didn't respect it, or he might then think it 1117 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: was going to happen that soon, just like we got 1118 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: car slipping with what what um kep D And now 1119 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: when you know what, Pop, we knew what's gonna go down. 1120 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Who doesn't think it's gonna happen that night? I knew it. 1121 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: I knew you didn't nobody think it was Yeah, do 1122 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: you believe that part where keep you d said. We 1123 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: went to mob to the club and we in the 1124 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 1: back for an hour and a half. They're coming to 1125 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: back because I was in the front of that one. 1126 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I washed him. I called good, told him them foods 1127 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: is there. I seen him in. He've been saying that 1128 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: for over a year doing interviews with us over on 1129 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: bomb first or he said I saw him to big 1130 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 1: meat in it, trying to say big meatus with him 1131 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: for the BMLS. Even if he came to the back, 1132 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it had been hard for him to get out of there. 1133 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: There was so many cars pulling up and even before 1134 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: we opened the doors, so he knew he lyed and 1135 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: and it was about ten or fifteen cops that I 1136 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: had a sign working up the parking lot and and 1137 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: you know the you know the crow control outside again 1138 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: how my security was from the door on the club 1139 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: inside and the police was from that side of the 1140 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: door out. That's why they left. And seeing a lot 1141 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: of police, they just passed and he stopped and they 1142 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: sat there and I looked and then I was like, damn, 1143 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I think it was hand dog. I said, that was 1144 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,919 Speaker 1: the south side right there, and uh, we're ready we 1145 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: was all ready. So if they did anything there they 1146 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: had because I didn't see they wouldn't fin to get 1147 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: out of You know what thing I hate when when 1148 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 1: mother's sitting here in the situation over now, don't make 1149 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: it seem like you just been to get out and 1150 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: you have been wolf fast a whole bunch of niggas 1151 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: to get to Shugar and say anybody think that that 1152 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: was what they're gonna do. Last state, motherfucking mind, you 1153 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: have got killed. You have got killed before you you 1154 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: touched the throne. You before you even said hey, Shore, 1155 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: you got killed. And we said it was Royces. Everybody 1156 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about No, no, no no, I'm talking about talking 1157 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: about Sign was riding around the day before in Rose Royces. 1158 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Uh you know the Rose Royces without the fight before 1159 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: when you know, so he got all of his stuff, 1160 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: all his his dates and stuff. Just it's an accurate 1161 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: and he said he saw Shig the day before that Friday. 1162 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Everybody knows because of the incident with the kids from 1163 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Folly that they that they didn't come out until on 1164 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: that Saturday Friday. That's I'm saying, you know, So that's 1165 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: why it's hard for me that you know, I want 1166 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: to believe some of the stuff, but and somes and 1167 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: accuracies in the book where it's hard to believe. Well, 1168 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: let me come back to the comment um regarding Nipsey. 1169 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: It made me just think about years ago Iced Tea 1170 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: actually got robbed and they got him real good. But 1171 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: they killed them two dudes they did later, they killed 1172 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: them two dude. I mean that one boy. D think 1173 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: that happened in the hood, right that they took that 1174 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: point to his mama house, they took, they killed. It 1175 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: was one of his own boys. They took him, let 1176 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: him say bye to his mama, and then killed him. 1177 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: It's when everybody keep a gangster. Though. That's when it 1178 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: was gangster back then. Nowadays there's nothing like that. It's 1179 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: nothing like that. If I robbed Tupac, the next motherfucker 1180 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna come in. You know. That's to me, Why why 1181 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: are you doing? Not what you get? Can I get? 1182 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: Can I get that right there? That's what they're gonna 1183 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: be saying. It ain't it's lordy, lord is out the window. 1184 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Man is not there like that no more. And and 1185 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: the only way halving the chicken get back to way 1186 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: it used to be. It's for these cats to understand 1187 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and know what loyalty means, friendship mean, and and you 1188 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: don't have these dudes out there like that, if you 1189 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: if you watch that video, the way that man took 1190 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: this guy life is as he didn't give up about life. 1191 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 1: He didn't give a funk about life, because he did 1192 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: the ultimate desk worse than almost spitting in the man face. 1193 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: I could be mad at you, or I could be 1194 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: furiated and I want to kill you. If I really 1195 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 1: want to kill you, I'm gonna stab you thirty times 1196 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 1: to make sure you're dead. But if I just want 1197 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: you dead, I'm gonna come and stab you in your 1198 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: fucking guts. It's a difference. They call it overkilled. But man, 1199 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: it's right here. How you kill him, motherfucking you don't 1200 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: just say okay if he if he moves and this, 1201 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: that's none of shooting. The motherfucker is not playing. How 1202 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: you gonna shoot him? When you go and do what 1203 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: you do, you do what you do. It's in your 1204 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: mind already. If I want you there, I'm gonna make 1205 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: sure you're dead. This the mentality that dude had. I 1206 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: think I think he retreated because he thought he was gonna. 1207 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: He was expecting some gun to play back, and then 1208 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: when he didn't get the gun play back because were 1209 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: they were slipping is when he was like, Oha, these 1210 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: niggas are slipping video. He came back and shot him again, 1211 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: like you ain't down. If somebody in that crew would 1212 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: have shot back, he would have took off. He would 1213 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: have wasn't running down the allege. He went for cover. 1214 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: At least and do it with young too. I think 1215 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it's twenty nine years old, So the mentality of a 1216 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old ain't the mentality you have now. James, 1217 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: no different. And I'm sure when you was twenty nine 1218 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 1: you was a little turned up yourself. I mean, you know, 1219 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: your first time it is hard and I'm gonna keep 1220 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you one hundred. The second time is a little easier, 1221 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: but after the third time you get the thinking. You 1222 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: go to sleep, you moving curaged, like your paranoid, like 1223 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: somebody up on this ship, and you stand up. Now. 1224 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I started drinking heavy as fuck to just not have 1225 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: the dreams, to just not think about what I just witnessed. 1226 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because if if these cats 1227 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: out of here ever seen a bullet going to a 1228 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: motherfucker side is hide his temple and come out the 1229 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: other way. You might throw up. You might throw up 1230 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: because they you don't have these cats. Ain't never seen 1231 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 1: ship like that. So the only way I could sleep 1232 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: is go home pissy fucking drunk. And then it's it's 1233 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 1: either them or me. And and and I kept getting drunk, 1234 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: and I just didn't worry about it no more so 1235 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: being a protector, one of the protectors in the neighborhood, 1236 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: and and on on that fucking tip every day. It 1237 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: just it just came not to it's just easy, but 1238 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a cold thing. Just see a person, just 1239 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: take that. He took his life. He took his life. 1240 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I think it's so cold because we're watching it on camera. 1241 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: And plus there's people with cell phones that show you 1242 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: his body right there while the pa every every cat 1243 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,719 Speaker 1: that you see with half a brain, My little cousin 1244 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: and and and in kitchen he was getching crip. His 1245 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,480 Speaker 1: name is Buttons. He was shot in the head and 1246 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: and you've seen his brains and ship whatever coming out 1247 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: his ears. That was the first time I think I 1248 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: was Tenny Levin and that was like a wolf for me, 1249 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Like Damn I threw up there. Here we are, we're 1250 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: thinking we're banging, But look at this ship. This is 1251 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: some real ship out here. And to have a killer mentality, man, 1252 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: it's it's some way I'll ship. But half of these 1253 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,600 Speaker 1: little cats out of here do and you can't. And 1254 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: they ain't accepting no ass. Whoopans. You can't whoop their ass. 1255 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: They don't have big homies telling them. You know, in 1256 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: most hoods, the big homies is a crackhead. Now he 1257 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't make it through the whole night. Are he doing 1258 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 1: life in prison? You know what I'm saying. You might 1259 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 1: got one or two that might come through the hood. 1260 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Hey I with a covered cats and then bounce right out. 1261 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: So these dudes is just acting on instinct, reacting on 1262 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: instincts and just doing their thing, just doing their thing. 1263 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: They don't care. If I see blue, I'm taking off. 1264 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 1: If I see red, I'm taking off. And you got 1265 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: that on both sides. You got that on both sides. 1266 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 1: So man, you just got to look how this dude 1267 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: took that man life. And it just it's like flashbacks. 1268 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 1: You just see, you know, motherfucker's from from doing drawing 1269 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: about drive bys to walking up on people and just 1270 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: close range, just just point blank shooting somebody. It's totally 1271 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,759 Speaker 1: different from what you see in the car a poster 1272 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: standing right there and doing it. I don't think any 1273 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: artists is safe and than aod to keep it real 1274 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: because you never know who's gonna turn on you. You 1275 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: never know who's got that jealous or envy. It's what 1276 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: nip you should have had. And I know he got 1277 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the big homies that that's supposed to have his back, 1278 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 1: the ones that ain't nobody gonna cross see like it 1279 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: goes back. Nobody in the hood has that no more. 1280 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you could have the half the hood on 1281 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: your side, there's always gonna be another, the other half 1282 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: that don't feel you exactly. You're not gonna have a 1283 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 1: hundred percent of your neighborhood. I don't care what's set 1284 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: you from a hundred percent of your set ain't gonna 1285 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: support you. That's true, and you don't. You don't even 1286 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 1: need um to hate you. You just need one percent 1287 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: to hate you. Man. I know it takes it takes 1288 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: yeah to to to um to Jamaic a situation bad 1289 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: like this. It's a hard line of walk. You know, 1290 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: when you when you give back, how to give back 1291 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: and all of that. I like what what Dreve was 1292 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 1: supposed to been doing. You know what Compton was building 1293 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: the Arts center and all of that. Um in the 1294 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: city of Compton, you know, to the school district. I 1295 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I know he put up the money. Whether 1296 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: the city or if it's still in the process or 1297 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: whatever getting done. Um, it would be interesting to see. 1298 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: But you know, building a you know, a place for 1299 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: people like a studio or a place like this, you know, 1300 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: to do things in the city for for young kids 1301 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 1: coming up. Stuff different though, And Snoop had that football 1302 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,600 Speaker 1: league that I always your people said good things about. 1303 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. So that's a good thing. Yeah, 1304 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: ways to a lot of kids. Program that a lot. 1305 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot of good ways to get back. But yeah, 1306 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 1: you're right, you can't be posted up in the neighborhood 1307 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: every day. Drey didn't have to worry about that because 1308 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Drey really didn't have a hood to just sit down 1309 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: and kicking on the block. But you know, it's gotta do. 1310 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I remember drink. I shot a couple once before in 1311 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: the legs. Some people say at that, Well, I was 1312 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,719 Speaker 1: gonna ask you to tell that story, but we're running 1313 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: out of time right now. Maybe maybe next week, Regi 1314 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: would tell us about when Dre got shot. But I 1315 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: want to thank everybody out there for listening to another 1316 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: episode of The Gangster Chronicles and be sure to tune 1317 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: in next week with a new, fresh episode. Thank you. 1318 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: This has been a digital Soapbuch Network production.