1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: The fact that they're banking wins now without Colon, who 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: knows how long exactly you will be out. That's a 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: really good sign. So it's a great start for the Yankees. Welcome. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Everyone's a fair territory. I am Ken Rosenthal here with 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo. We want you to get your questions in because, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: my goodness, Alana, we have a lot to talk about 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: this morning, some breaking news out of the Bay Area. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get you set up. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: I wanted to get you set up because before we 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: get into it, Kenny, we were talking about the fact that, 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: you know, when we did our production meeting this morning, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: this was not the lead, but it is the lead now. 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: The Oakland Athletics announcing about an hour ago that they're 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: going to spend the twenty five through twenty seven season 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: in Sacramento. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: So I would like to welcome a new city to 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and a new glorious minor league ballpark 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball. Fourteen thousand sea capacity. Yes, Sacramento 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: is going to be a major League city at least 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: for three years, maybe more. This might be their bid 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: for an expansion team down the line. And while the 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: stadium is not major League quality, and that's going to 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: be a big issue for the Players Association, the fact 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: that the facilities are not going to be major league caliber. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: The city itself is the twentieth largest market in the 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: nation media market, Las Vegas is fortieth, so from some respects, 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: in certain respects, Sacramento is a better choice than Vegas. 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, that's not the plan, Alanta. The plan 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is three years in Sacramento, with an option for a 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: fourth in case the Vegas stadium is not done, and 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: then they will move on to their ballpark in Las Vegas. Now, 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: this is an interesting move for a lot of reasons. One, 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: the a's last year in Oakland under their TV deal 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: with NBC Sports California, received sixty seven million dollars, and 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: the estimates are that they would be getting seventy million 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: if they had stayed in the Bay Area going forward. Now, 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I am sure that number will be reduced. And yet 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: they still want to leave Oakland for these next three 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: years because, of course, a lot of local Oakland is 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: not a great place for them now. As I reported 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, the plan, the a's plan, 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: and they always have plans, is to increase their payroll 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to the one hundred and thirty to one hundred and 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar range while they are ramping up in 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Sacramento and then get to one seventy by the time 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: they're in Vegas. As I wrote, then I'll believe it 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: when I see it. And this move while being trumpeted 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: by Major League Baseball on I want to hear your 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: thoughts on it, because major leaguers in minor league facilities, 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: that's going to be a real interesting thing to try 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: to sell to the players Association and to the players themselves. 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Ken Some people might argue though, that the Coliseum is 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: a minor league ballpark as well, and I don't know 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: that keeping them in Oakland for the next three years 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: only to ultimately move them out of Oakland to get 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas, guess or wherever it is that they 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: end up is a good answer either. I think this 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: is better than just kind of like slowly moving the 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: band aid off of the wound. This is kind of like, 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: let's just rip it off and get out of Oakland entirely. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: There's so much bad blood that has happened between the city, 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: the team, the fans, the ownership group. I think it's 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: probably best to get them out of Oakland. And I 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: feel so badly for the fans because they've lost everything. 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: They lost the Raiders, they lost the Warriors, They're losing 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: again another professional sports franchise. But perhaps this is a 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: move that they need. Maybe there will be some generated 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: interests in Sacramento. It's only fourteen thousand seats as far 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: as the ballpark is concerned, about ten thousand seats, and 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: then with the Burm area, it's about fourteen thousand people 72 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: that can fit in. But right now they're getting about 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: three thousand a game Ken. So you know, I don't 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: like the move. I think it stinks for the city 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: of Oakland. But you know, for the fans, I should say, now, 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't even care about the city, but the fan 77 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: base there that bothers me. But again, this is going 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: to have to be approved by the union, and they're 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: going from one in the league ballpark to another. 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Alana. I'm not going to argue the point that they 81 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: need to get out of Oakland. I would argue, though, 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: from a greater global perspective, that this whole thing from 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: point A where it started to point B where it's 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: supposed to end in Las Vegas has been an absolute charade. 85 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: And yes they have to get out of Oakland, Yes 86 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: they had to find a new home. Sacramento is probably 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: more feasible than Salt Lake City, where they would not 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: get any TV money or at least the same amount. 89 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: And it's more feasible than Vegas, where you can't play outdoors. 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: It's still hot in Sacramento in the summertime, as we know. 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: But my point here is that this whole thing, this 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: is major League Baseball, and this is what Major League 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: Baseball has agreed to let the owner of the Age, 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: John Fisher, do, play in a minor league stadium for 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: three years. Admittedly he's playing at a or not a 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: great ballpark now, and then go to a city where 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to work. We don't 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: even know if the A's are going to totally get there. 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Because of course this thing is still somewhat tenuous. That's 100 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: my problem with Alana, the whole thing. But you know what, 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about baseball. Let's talk about at least one 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: hot team right now. 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: The New York Yankees off to a six to one 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: road trip. They look tremendous. I don't know that there's 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: ever been anybody in recent days that looks better in 106 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: a Yankee uniform than one Soda, doesn't. It just seem 107 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: to fit Ken. He just seems to want to be. 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: There, absolutely, right, Alana, And this team is really interesting 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: right now. And of course, if we're talking about hot teams, 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: we could be talking about the six and two Dodgers, 111 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: who look tremendous. But the Yankees, there's six and one 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: playing on the road in Houston and in Arizona, a 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: team that went to the ALCS last year and a 114 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: team that went to the World Series. They're doing this 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: without Gary Cole and DJ Lemayhew, and they're doing it 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: really with only three hot hitters now. And this was 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: until yesterday. Judge hit a home run yesterday, I got 118 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: a big night for du Goo as well, But before 119 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: that it was really as Walda Cabrera, one Soda and 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi. That was it. And the fact that they're 121 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: banking wins now without Colan, who knows how long exactly 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: he'll be out, that's a really good sign. And the 123 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: one overlook thing about this team right now. We've talked 124 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot about Soto, of course, and rightly, so you're right, Alona. 125 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: He fits perfectly. He's had a tremendous impact on the 126 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: lineup in general. But their bullpen, I'm talking about Clay 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: Holmes and Hamilton, Lowisega, Ferguson and Birdie five relievers to 128 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: this point, those five combined nineteen and a third innings, 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: no earned runs. So it's a great start for the Yankees. 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they're going to be there at the end. No, 131 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: if you go to September fast forward in your head, 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: it probably won't even me thinking that they started the 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: season six and one, probably won't even remember it. But 134 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: for the Yankees, who had some questions around them, their 135 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: lineup looks much more balanced and in general they look 136 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: much more like a championship caliber team than certainly they 137 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: did last season. 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: I don't know that we would thought that the Yankees 139 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: bullpen would have been that strong. I don't know that 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: we would have thought that the Tigers bullpen would have 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: been that strong either. Ken a point five to eight 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: era for the Tiger's relieving corps. But one thing about 143 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: Soto before we move on to some Larry Lukeno memories, 144 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: is Juan Soto is doing it in all ways right. 145 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: He's doing it with line drives all over the field. 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: He's clearing the fences, he has the strong throws. You know, 147 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: he's doing it defensively as well. And I think that 148 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: was probably the only knock on him. Right. We knew 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: he was a great offensive player, but he's been able 150 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: to contribute on both sides of the ball. 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: No question. Anna and I wrote about this earlier in 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: the week. This winter spent some time with Jackie Bradley Junior, 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: one of the great outfielders really of this generation from 154 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint, and he wanted to get better. He 155 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: thought it was important to get better. Now you might say, well, 156 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: of course it's his free agent year he's going to Yes, 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: but Soda was a good outfielder in Washington, not a 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: great outfielder, but certainly adequate. And he, from what we've 159 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: seen so far, has gotten back to that. The routes 160 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: are better, the throws, as you mentioned, are much better, 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the overall awareness is better. He's worked at it and 162 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: he's continued to work at it with Luis Rojas, who 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: is their third base coach and outfield instructor. And it 164 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: speaks well of Soto. Yes, he's a free agent. I 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: get it, but to go and make the extra effort 166 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: this year, because, as he said, defense does win championships. 167 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: That shows you something about the player he wants to be. 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be just this offensive force. He 169 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: wants to be a better defender and a better base runner. 170 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: If I'm the New York Yankees, I'm locking up one 171 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: Soto to a long term deal before he hits that 172 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: free agent market. Staying in the al least, let's talk 173 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: a little bit about the Boston Red Sox as far 174 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: as Larry Lukeno is concerned. He passed away at the 175 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: age of seventy eight after an illness, and Kenny, I 176 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: have to say, this is a man that has had 177 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: such an unbelievable mark in the game of baseball, not 178 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: just for the Red Sox, but for many different franchises. 179 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: What will you remember about him? 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: I remember riding in a cab with him to the 181 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: new Comiski Park in nineteen ninety one, and Larry was 182 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the president of the Oils at that time. I was 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: working for the Baltimore Sun and we're on our way. 184 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: Camiski had just opened it's now what Guaranteed rad Field 185 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: or whatever it's called, and Lukeino was ripping the park 186 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: to me, saying, this place is not good. They didn't 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: design it. Well, wait until you see what we have 188 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: in store in Baltimore next year. What happened next year 189 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Camden Yards opened. That was a park that he was 190 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: a big part in creating. He wasn't the only guy 191 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: with the vision. Jane Maury Smith was part of that 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: as well, but he played a major role his vision 193 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: of what he wanted a ballpark in an urban area 194 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: to be. Took that vision to San Diego, was the 195 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: driving force behind Petco. Took it to Boston where they 196 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: kept Fenway Park, thank goodness, and with Janet Murray Smith, 197 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: they incorporated some renovations. I can't say it's updated exactly, 198 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: but they made that park even better. So that's just 199 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: part of his story. Because of course, he was the 200 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: president of the Boston Red Sox when they won three 201 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: World Series titles. He was the guy who coined the 202 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Yankees the evil umpire. He was someone who was incredibly 203 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: difficult to work for in many ways and to deal 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: with in many ways. He was impatient, he could be condescending, 205 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: but he was a guy who wanted to win. He 206 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: was a guy who was very passionate about what he 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: was involved with. And even though I had my battles 208 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: with him at times over the years, going back to 209 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: the Baltimore days, he is someone who, from what I 210 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: could see from fan comments over the last few days, 211 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: is being remembered very fondly, and that's as it should be. 212 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Steve Buckley in The Athletic wrote that Larry Lukeino should 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. I one hundred percent agree. 214 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: His influence and impact on the sport is almost unparalleled. 215 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: In the ways that he did it. 216 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: You would not be alone and that you had your 217 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: run ins with him, because he certainly had a reputation 218 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: ken of being a guy that was abrasive and hard 219 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: to work four. But in that there was also the 220 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: appreciation of how he made people around him better. You 221 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: mentioned Jane Marie Smith, who had a hand and making 222 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Camden Yards as well as you know, upgrading Dodger Stadium 223 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: in Peco Park, and on and on on and on. 224 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: And I had a conversation with her after the passing 225 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: of Larry Lukeino, and she said that he just made 226 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: her work smarter, He made her work better. He learned, 227 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: she learned so much from being around him and working 228 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: for him that you can't take away the amount of 229 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: good that he did in the game. And also Sean 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: McAdam was on a high heat the other day and 231 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: had a conversation about how after the Red Sox won 232 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: the two thousand and four World Series Championship for the 233 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: first time in a billion years, he walked into Terry 234 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: Francona's office and said, Hey, we need to get these 235 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: guys in full uniform to get on these duck boats 236 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: and go on and do this parade. Terry Francona said, 237 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: absolutely not. I'm not going to ask my players who 238 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: have been you know it probably still hung over from 239 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: the championship to get in full uniform to do this. 240 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: And it was rumored that Larry Lukeno, screaming at the 241 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: top of his lungs to Terry Francona, said, God, you 242 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: can't get these guys to do anything for you, And 243 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: it was he had just won the World Series with 244 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: this group of guys. But again it was he always 245 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: wanted perfection, He always wanted to put his best foot forward. 246 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: And I do agree with you as well. I do 247 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: believe that Larry Lukeno should be in the Hall of 248 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: Fame just because of the mark that he's left on 249 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: this great game. 250 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: And one thing I failed to mention and is really 251 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: key to this whole conversation, Larry Lucino was not the 252 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: guy who brought theo Epstein into the game, but he 253 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: was there in Baltimore when THEO joined that organization as 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: an intern. THEO had made a connection through Calvin Hill, 255 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: who was then in the Oriels front office, and then 256 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Lukeno took theo Epstein to San Diego and then brought 257 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: him to Boston to be the youngest general manager in 258 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: baseball history at the time age twenty eight. It was 259 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: THEO who put together the team that ended the Curse 260 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: of the Bambino and Lukeno, who was the team president 261 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: at that time. 262 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean he ended curses for two teams. I mean 263 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: he ended droughts for two teams, the Boston Red Sox 264 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: and as you just mentioned, the Chicago Comes. So may 265 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: he rest in peace. Larry Lukeno should definitely be in 266 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. All right, Moving on now to 267 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: Grill and Ken. This is your opportunity to get questions 268 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: in to ask Ken Rosenthal his thoughts on certain things, 269 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: and we'll start with this showed up Imminaga's jem keeping 270 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: that in mind, ken best major league debut you have 271 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: ever seen? 272 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Actually it happened last year. Alana south Freelick comes up 273 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: to Milwaukee and we had the game on Fox. And 274 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: it's always cool major league debut. You've covered up a 275 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: number of them. They are great, the family is there, 276 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: it's a cool night. He goes three for three with 277 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: a sacrifice fly. He makes two tremendous catches in right field, 278 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: drove in the tying run and the go ahead run. 279 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: That was the best debut I've ever seen. It was 280 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: a blast to cover. And south Freelick, by the way, 281 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to be a really good 282 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: player for a long time. Yeah. 283 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: I love debuts. They're always so much fun, And of 284 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: course it's just such a culmination of all of the 285 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: hard work that comes from trying to get into this 286 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: great game. It's hard to get here, it's even harder 287 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: to stay. I'm going to go back to June of 288 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: twenty ten, so fourteen years ago, which is hard enough 289 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: to believe. Steven Strasburg's debut with the Washington Nationals, and 290 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: I remember as you know, number one pick in two 291 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: thousand and nine, so hyped, so much expectation for this 292 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: young man, and he really delivered in his major league debut. 293 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: He goes seven innings Ken two earned runs, four hits, 294 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: But it was the fourteen punchouts and zero walks that 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: was so impressive. The swing and miss was there. It 296 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: was just a twenty one year old kid, and we 297 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: knew he was going to be something special. So that is, 298 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: to me, the one that I actually witnessed. And then 299 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to go back and bring up Willie mccovey's 300 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: back in nineteen fifty nine. And I know you've been 301 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: doing this a long time, Ken Rosenthalt, but you weren't 302 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: even at Willy mccovey's debut. Now keep in mind that 303 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: Willy McCovey did not make his debut until the one 304 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: hundred and first game of the Sea for the San 305 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Francisco Giants. And what's crazy about that is he goes 306 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: four for four, two triples. He only had forty six 307 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: triples in his big league career, two of which came 308 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: on the day that he made his debut. And what's 309 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: even crazier about is I mentioned one hundred and first 310 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: game of the season. He doesn't make his debut until 311 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: he still ended up ken winning the National League Rookie 312 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: of the Year. That's how impressive Willie McCovey was. He 313 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: was twenty one years old at the time, same age 314 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: as Stephen Strasburg. But imagine being there and watching this 315 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: kid come up and say, Wow, this guy's this. 316 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: Guy's I was not even aware of that alta. I 317 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: did attend Strasburg's debut because my memory is failing, I 318 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: didn't remember it as vividly as Freelix. But anyway, both 319 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: of those that you just mentioned were tremendous. 320 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: All Right, you know it's fun too because I think 321 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: about all the stuff that you have probably seen in 322 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: your career. I give you a pass. Freelix was just 323 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: last year. But besides Frelix, is there any other that 324 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: stick out to you? 325 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: There is one, It's not that notable, but Cole Tucker 326 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: when he made his debut for the Pittsburgh Pirates. And 327 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the reason I'll say this, it was a Pittsburgh Pirates 328 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants game in April. And not that I 329 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: ever complain about where I go on a given weekend, 330 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: but I was thinking, what are we doing covering the 331 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Pirates and Giants in April in twenty nineteen. That day 332 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Cole Tucker and Brian Reynolds, who of course became a 333 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: really good player, made their debuts. Col Tucker had his 334 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: home run that day. His parents are in the stands, 335 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: and you've done this a lot, and we all have 336 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: done this. It's so much fun to interview the parents 337 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: on the day of their son's debut. He hit the homer. 338 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: It was a big day for him and I'll always 339 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: remember that one as well. 340 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: Now Cole Tucker is now married to Vanessa Hutchins and 341 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: they're about to have their first baby. My, how time 342 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: just flies right by for you? Care all about that 343 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: pulp culture? All right, Grill and Kim, we have our 344 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: first question, and of course it is about the Oakland 345 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: A's and their owner, John Fisher, and this comes from 346 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: Caleb Davis. Is there a way to force him out 347 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: of ownership? Will we ever see baseball in Oakland again? 348 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a way to force him 349 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: out of ownership other than if he is financially negligent 350 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: in the way he operates the team. The way the 351 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: MC court family was in running the Dodgers some years ago, 352 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: then you would have grounds to get them out. But 353 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: it's a private enterprise. He basically has the right to 354 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: run the franchise however he wants it. MLB is very 355 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: LEAs a fair in that regard. They do not hold 356 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: owners to any particular standard. They don't say you have 357 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: to win to keep your team. It's not like that 358 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: these guys own the teams. They can do what they want. 359 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: And let's not forget MLB approved this move and has 360 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: been behind it from the start. Now, the better question 361 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: is the second one you ask, Caleb, will Oakland be 362 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: in position to get an expansion team? They're going to try, 363 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: and in fact, the offer that they made to Oakland 364 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: or the Oakland a's in negotiating with them for the 365 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: possibility of the Ace staying in Oakland for the next 366 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: three years, included the right to work with MLB on 367 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: exclusivity for an expansion team, finding a new owner, etc. 368 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: They have always maintained the Mayor of Oakland and everyone 369 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: she works with, that they have a plan they can 370 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: get a new stadium built, downtown, beautiful setting, and they 371 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: have what they say, are people willing to invest and 372 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: buy a team. I don't know why you would want 373 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: to leave the best market really that's remaining right now 374 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: in baseball, the Bay Area, seventh largest TV market in 375 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the country, and not go back. So we'll see how 376 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: this transpires. There's certainly no feeling on MLB side that 377 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: Oakland is that viable, that their plans have been that viable. 378 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Oakland insists otherwise. But if you're looking for places to 379 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: go in expansion, you'd want to go to the biggest markets, 380 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I would think, and you'd want to give Oakland another 381 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: look under a new owner. 382 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: And why would people believe that they're willing or can 383 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: get a stadium in place, a new stadium for an 384 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: Spanship team when they weren't able to do it for 385 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: a team that's been in that current location for fifty 386 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: seven years. 387 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Great question, Alana, and it's a very fair question. But 388 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: I've talked quite a bit with the mayor in the 389 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: last year, really, and she maintains and she presented to 390 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: Rob Manford at the All Star Game last year a 391 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: lengthy set of blueprints and plans and financing for a 392 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: new ballpark. MLB has always maintained the A's have always 393 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: maintained that it's insufficient. It can't get it done. Oakland 394 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: insists otherwise. I would, at least if I were Rob Manford, 395 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: want to have that conversation again. And if they have 396 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: a deep pockets owner Joe Lakobe, maybe the owner of 397 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: the Warriors, who wants to get in there and wants 398 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: to of course help with that construction, why wouldn't you 399 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: want the Bay Area back with two teams? 400 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with you again. I feel very, very 401 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: sad for the fans in Oakland. They've just been stripped 402 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: of every professional team that they have. All Right, we 403 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: have a super chat next as we continue with grilling 404 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Ken here. He wants to know Ken. Did the New 405 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: York Yankees go after Sodo as far as a long 406 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 2: term deal? We were just talking about that. I think 407 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: they should lock him up forever. But it doesn't matter 408 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: what I think. What do you think about making sure 409 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: Sodo finishes his career in pinstripes. 410 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: Obviously they should lock him up forever. Right, you have 411 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: a player who is going to be a free agent 412 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: at twenty six. The problem is Scott Bors is his agent. 413 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Scott wors knows, and Juan Soto knows that on the 414 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: open market, he is going to crush it. And remember, 415 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Sodo turned down four hundred and forty million for fifteen 416 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: years from the Washington Nationals in twenty twenty two. That's 417 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: what led to his trade to the Padres. He turned 418 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: it down in part because he thought he could get more. 419 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: And given that Shohyotani has set the bar even higher, 420 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: albeit with a deferred deal, Juan Soto, to me, is 421 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: looking at five hundred million dollars plus because of his age, 422 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: because of his historic accomplishment, because of all that, he 423 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: is still likely to accomplish in his careers. So would 424 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees like to get this done right now? I'm 425 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: sure they would. But Brian Cashman has said they fully 426 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: expect Juan Soto to go to free agency because generally speaking, 427 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: that is what Scott Boris's clients do in search of 428 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: their full market value. Why not negotiate with thirty teams 429 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: rather than negotiate with only one? And I know thirty 430 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: teams won't be involved, but you know what I'm saying. 431 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: The open market presents competition and it gives Sodo the 432 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: chance to drive that number even higher. 433 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: So did this off season too? Ken with a lot 434 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: of Scott Boris's clients, and you and I have talked 435 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: about this before in terms of agent over promising. Does 436 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: that happen again in this upcoming off season? Do you 437 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: think with a five hundred million dollars price tag. 438 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you can screw up one SODA's free agency, Alana. 439 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: I just don't know that it's possible. And remember Boris, 440 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: while he had a difficult offseason, there's no question about it. 441 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: He might not admit it, but we know it going 442 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: back to twenty nineteen two. That off season, he had Cole, 443 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: he had Rendoni at Strasbourg. All three of those guys 444 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: crushed it. And Soto to me, is like a hitting 445 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: version of Coal in that he's the best at his position, 446 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: the best in the game, and when you have that 447 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: kind of player, you're not going to miss. Now, Boris 448 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: has argued, Listen, people knew Cody Bellinger had had a 449 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: couple of bad years. People knew Blake Snell had had 450 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: some difficult seasons or average seasons between his Cy Young 451 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Award winning campaigns. These were guys with warts. I don't 452 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: know that Wan Sota is going to have any warts, 453 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know that if I was his representative, 454 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: I could screw up a five hundred million dollar deal. 455 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Listen, I've been asking Scott Boris to be my agent 456 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: for decades and he refuses to take me on as 457 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: a client. So here we go. All right, last question 458 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: for you. It is about the auto strike zone. This 459 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: is a big topic of conversation Scott. Could you ask 460 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: Ken about Scott Scott is actually me now because it's 461 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: a lonest Let's see, could you ask Ken about how 462 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is thinking about the bad home plate 463 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: umpiring of late? Does the umpire Union agree with an 464 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: automated strike zone? 465 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: The automated strike zone is coming. The question is when 466 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: and if you're going to implement this. You're going to 467 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: have to one decide how you're going to use it 468 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: as a challenge system for every call, just the way 469 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: that you're going to implement this, and the other part 470 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: of it is you have to perfect it, and that 471 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: to me is one of the issues here. You've got 472 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: to make sure that the strike zone is fair for 473 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: a player as short as Sale two V and a 474 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: player as tall as Aaron Judge. And let's face it, Alano, yes, 475 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: there is human error with the current system with umpires 476 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: behind the play. But for the most part, and people 477 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: I know don't recognize this, these guys get ninety eight 478 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: nine nine percent, right, So you've got to be at 479 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: that level, if not higher. And it's probably something we're 480 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: going to see in the near future. I don't know 481 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: exactly when, but they've tried it in the minor leagues 482 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and certainly it's the way the game is heading. 483 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: All right, Scarlet and Blue, thank you for that question 484 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: about the automated strike Son. It is time now to 485 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: move on from grill and Ken to dude and dork. 486 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm always easily defining a dude. It's sometimes it's harder 487 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: to find a dork. But let's start with the dude 488 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: of the week for you, Ken, who is it? 489 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: Well, it could easily be Mooky Bets, but it probably 490 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: could be Mookie Bets every week. 491 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go. 492 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: With Juan Soto Andjan Soda for the way he has 493 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: transformed the Yankees for the series he had in Houston 494 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: in particular, in which every game he left his mark 495 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: either offensively or defensively. One Soda to me is a 496 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: pretty obvious choice for due to the week, but a lot. 497 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: I've got to say Mookie might even be more obvious. 498 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: I just expect Bookies go away again and again and 499 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: again because he's. 500 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, why why because he has five home runs in 501 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: his first eight games. He's tearing the cover off the ball. 502 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how he wasn't the reigning National League 503 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: Player of the Week. No disrespect to lud Des Gouriel, 504 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: but I mean, Mookie bets my goodness, but I didn't 505 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: pick him for the same reason that you I picked 506 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: Renelle Blanco of the Houston Astra. The reason being Ken 507 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: is what a couple of weeks for this young man. 508 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: He finds out basically at the end of spring training 509 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: that he made the major league roster as far as 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: opening Day is concerned, and the same day he welcomes 511 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: in his second child, a daughter, and then he finds 512 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: out he makes the team, and then he throws the 513 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: first no hitter of twenty twenty four. So we didn't 514 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: know a lot about this guy. I'm sure the Houston 515 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: Astros did, but you know they signed him in the 516 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: international market, and good for him. Congratulations, and what a 517 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: moment for that young man. What a couple of weeks 518 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: for that young man, all right, what about your dork 519 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: of the week. Who's that? 520 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Well, Alana, we should rename this the John Fisher Dork 521 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: of the Weeks. It so often and the A's went 522 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: so often, I'm going to give it to the A's 523 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: in general, not just John Fisher. Three reasons, just three 524 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: this week. 525 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: From these that's it. That's all you got. 526 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: His story, rereised emotion is at the bottom of this. 527 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I did like it, but I understood where David forst 528 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: the GM was coming from. Number two on the A's 529 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Ridiculousness of the Week would be the memo that was 530 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: sent out to some of their concessionaires about how to 531 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: conduct themselves during games, basically saying, if you see anything 532 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: that says rooted in Oakland, I guess in the merchandise, 533 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: take it down. You don't want that, and try not 534 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: to highlight any product with Oakland in it. Now we 535 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: understand why the A's are instructing their concessionaires this. But 536 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: my favorite part of this is if attendance is under 537 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: five thousand for the game, we'll be closing Gatessea. Well, 538 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: guess what did I guess? 539 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: It's always it's thirty five hundred that night. 540 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: So That's my number two reason, and of course number 541 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: one will be this whole fiasco, the Oakland, Sacramento, Vegas. 542 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: As again, I will believe everything is wonderful, as Major 543 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: League Baseball is promising, as John Fisher is promising, I 544 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: will believe it all is the Land of Oz when 545 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: the A's get to Vegas, where they open that park, 546 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: and when they run that one hundred and seventy million 547 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: dollar payroll that they have talked about doing. 548 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: This entire thing has been an absolute disaster from start 549 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: to finish. You could not have mismanaged this worse than 550 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: what the Oakland A's have done. My dork of the 551 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: week is whoever decided to put Jackson Holiday in the 552 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: minor leagues and keep him there through seven games of 553 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: this season. I understand Gunner Henderson is a is a 554 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: good could be great player, yes, but Jackson Holiday is 555 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: on another level. So far in minor league's four hundred 556 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: average ken two home runs, eight RBI, one stolen base, 557 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: his ops is one point two four to eight. Put 558 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: the kid on the roster, find a spot for him. 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: Put him at short, put him at second, put him 560 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: at I don't care, put him behind the plate. Get 561 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: rid of Adley Ruchmond. I'm kidding. I'm kidding with adleye regmmand. 562 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: But the point is, Jackson Holiday is already a major 563 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: league player. He was already a major leaguer when he 564 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: was three years old. I watched him in the Rockies 565 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: clubhouse when his dad was in the Rockies system. So 566 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: that is my dork of the week again. I'm with you. 567 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you on this. He definitely is deserving. They've 568 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: got two other prospects, Kurse Dad and Mayo, who also 569 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: are deserving. The problem this team has, and it's crazy 570 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: to say this, They've got too many good players. Jordan Westberg, 571 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: who would be I guess the guy they would get 572 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: rid of for Holiday get a game winning homer the 573 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: other night. So that's the problem here. We all want 574 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: to see Jackson Holiday. We're going to see Jackson Holiday 575 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: at some point. But the Orioles are just. 576 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: Loaded, best farm system in the game and it shows, 577 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: and they're coming off a one hundred and win season 578 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: last year, so good for them. I'm happy that the 579 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: Orioles are doing well, and I love the new ownership group. 580 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: They're already doing things the right way with David Rubinstein 581 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: at the helm Well that is going to do it. 582 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: For Foul Territory with Ken Rosenthal, the live edition. We 583 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: appreciate you watching, and again please do so continuously. 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