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Speaker 2: What is up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Forgotten Seasons. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be rounding out the next seventy five with

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Speaker 1: the twenty tens. Matt and Stack hopped on with JR.

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Speaker 1: Swish to help them relive the decade and shine a

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Speaker 1: light on some of the underappreciated players. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys have enjoyed this project like I have been saying.

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Speaker 1: All of these players are the backbone of forgotten seasons,

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Speaker 1: so it's been really fun to sort of lump them

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Speaker 1: all together and get voices from their eras to help

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Speaker 1: this one now. Next seventy five talk with JR. Swish

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Speaker 1: begins right now.

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Speaker 3: Joining us in this conversation is my brother, Yo, brother,

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Speaker 3: the world's brother one and not only j R.

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Speaker 4: Smith, everybody's brother.

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Speaker 2: And what's happening with us?

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Speaker 4: My kids just got out of school? Are you still

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Speaker 4: in school?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just got out, man, I just got a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. Man, just the finals How to Go?

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Speaker 2: It was rough, Man, it was a rough start, but

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Speaker 2: I finished up strong and taking it. Could be one

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Speaker 2: of my classes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess I can.

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Speaker 6: I mean you set the bar pretty much fucking high

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Speaker 6: with straight a's, Bro, So I guess I guess A

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Speaker 6: B O be okay, Bro, Yeah, I got four a's

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Speaker 6: and b man sogulations, dope, dope.

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Speaker 4: You played in five different NBA finals. Bro.

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Speaker 3: When it's when it's time of your come around, do

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Speaker 3: you start to you know, have memories and go down

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Speaker 3: memory lane?

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Speaker 2: Only when I watched it, bro. Honestly, man, I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: of touch with the age right now. So think I

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Speaker 2: almost forgot what time of the year it was, because like,

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Speaker 2: I'll be on the golf course all day long, man,

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Speaker 2: I'll be on being like I live a totally different

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Speaker 2: life I did when I was playing and stuff, so

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Speaker 2: I got a totally different perspective on it. So when

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Speaker 2: I look at the game now, when I do, when

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Speaker 2: I do catch up on it, I see it's the finals.

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Speaker 2: Just like damn I saying highlights you it's crazy because

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Speaker 2: it seems so long ago, right.

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Speaker 5: But it's not right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no shit, I'll be I'll be five years removed

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Speaker 6: this June, so that shit went by fast as fuck.

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Speaker 5: Yea five years yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because every telling people all the time. Man, when you

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Speaker 2: you're not in it all the time like you used to.

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Speaker 2: Don't revolve around your world no more, figure out others

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Speaker 2: outside of what you've always done. Yeah, you've already got kids.

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Speaker 6: Man, before we get into the twenty tens, you were

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Speaker 6: one of the first volume three point shooters when you

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Speaker 6: came to it, used to let that motherfucker fly. Uh,

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Speaker 6: what do you think about now that you see just

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Speaker 2: Man? You know it's crazy because you four. You know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't cool to shoot right two to three. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the dabble on the love. But now you you know,

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Speaker 2: see dudes. For me, I don't know, Man, it's hard

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Speaker 2: because I see, like I don't want to seem like

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Speaker 2: when I when I see the game change like that

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Speaker 2: as an eighteen year old kid, For me being in

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Speaker 2: that situation, like man, I could have made five hundred million,

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Speaker 2: I could have made a billion, Like like for real, bro,

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Speaker 2: because like it's changing the wave of the game, and

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Speaker 2: not only that, it's changing the eye of what you know,

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Speaker 2: been being able to wear your clothes and express yourself

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Speaker 2: on the court and the mental health part, like, so

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Speaker 2: it's all catered around supporting that type of style. So

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Speaker 2: for me, it would have been out of thriving.

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Speaker 4: What were some of your toughest matchups on the wing

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Speaker 4: when he was playing.

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Speaker 2: Shit cold cold? I got cold one night, we got

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Speaker 2: t Mac one night, I got Ray Allen. Uh, it's

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Speaker 2: just a west. Uh, it was just all you gotta

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Speaker 2: all night, you got you got cat? What right? All right?

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Speaker 2: What you mean you Yeah, you don't know. I can

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Speaker 2: tell you never really played the game like that. Then

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Speaker 2: you got you gotta go out East, you go AI franchise?

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Speaker 2: Uh hbd. D Way, I mean Reggie I called. I

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Speaker 2: called Reggie my rookie year on Reggie Way out was

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Speaker 2: getting being cool thirty seven.

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Speaker 5: Forty he said, a cool thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was eighteen, chasing him. He wasn't working out.

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Speaker 2: David said, you with a couple of elbows. Word bro,

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Speaker 2: but ship, Uh, you know it was crazy. I played.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Damon Stottlemar had sixty and Nick

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Speaker 2: Vanexto had thirty seven. Who in eighteen games my rookie year.

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Speaker 2: It was something like that, or or Ben had fifty

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Speaker 2: and Dame had forty, something like that. It was it

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Speaker 2: was crazy. I ain't never seen no schooling like that.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Got thrown Dann Dick out there trying to chase Damon Stock.

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Speaker 4: He said, I heard that. Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, that was damn. When the man was my

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Speaker 2: guy dog straight up nineteen years old, he was he

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Speaker 2: was schooling me.

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Speaker 5: Damn was cool. Shit.

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Speaker 4: What was your thoughts on the top seventy five list? WI?

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Speaker 2: To me, it was pretty It was pretty accurate, I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, other than like having Dwight on there, I

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Speaker 2: think Dwight should have been up there. I mean if

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like you know, granted,

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Speaker 2: even if you don't win the championship, and he didn't

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Speaker 2: want a championship with us at the Lakers, like what

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Speaker 2: he did, what he did for the game as a

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Speaker 2: big game, his numbers of stats, where he approached the game.

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Speaker 2: Like people can say what they want about Dwight or

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Speaker 2: you know, crazy, whatever you want to think or whatever

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Speaker 2: the persona is about him on the court, with the

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Speaker 2: patterns of refs or coaches. But when I take approach

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Speaker 2: to the game, bro, he's in the gym every day,

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Speaker 2: he eat right, he worked on his game like I won't.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about what nobody say. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of people out there who try to pretend act like

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Speaker 2: they work on their game and AHB practicing moves. He

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Speaker 2: at least he's actually working on that ship. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He puts in the effort, bro, Like

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Speaker 2: his body shows it. His body of work shows it.

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Speaker 2: Like he just dominant all those times. Was it when

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Speaker 2: they had it? Was it cod and those USA teams,

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Speaker 2: he was the center bromm hm, like he was enforce it.

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Speaker 2: It was like, well, let's not forget about the way

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Speaker 2: Howard bro Like that was that was crazy.

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Speaker 5: A chance to play with prime to White in Orlando.

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Speaker 6: He was and one of the strongest human beings I've

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Speaker 6: ever been. That motherfucker's so strong.

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Speaker 2: Bro man, straight up. I think you know Kyrie Carter,

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Speaker 2: watch of people, I think it was Clay.

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Speaker 5: It was saying Clay, like miss yeah, they get Clay

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Speaker 5: Team Mac.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's a couple of people that I mean,

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Speaker 2: but it's always going to be like that. Whenever you

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Speaker 2: make a list like that, it's always going to be

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Speaker 2: like it's like that.

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Speaker 4: The players do. Unless the players do it, though, switch.

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Speaker 2: Even the players do it. Come on, bro, there's always

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Speaker 2: gonna be sy. He ain't like me when I was playing,

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Speaker 2: he was. I mean, it's always gonna be like that.

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Speaker 6: Well, today we're gonna go through a list of twenty

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Speaker 6: ten players and we're gonna talk about each of them.

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Speaker 5: So let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Seven time All Star, three time All NBA twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: twenty twelve, Rookie of Year twenty thirteen to fourteen All

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Speaker 3: Star MVP twelve, Rookie Team two thou sixteen NBA Champ

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Speaker 3: three year peak, twenty one points per game, seven and

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Speaker 3: six per game, three rebounds per game. Biggest shot in

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixteen finals.

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Speaker 2: JR.

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Speaker 3: Y'all was on teammates together. Probably the most creative basketball

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Speaker 3: player with the ball, most skilled player I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Kyrie Irvin.

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Speaker 2: To me, Kyle's the greatest score ever under sixty three

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Speaker 2: six two, whatever, whatever height he is, He's the greatest

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Speaker 2: scorer I've ever seen underneath that basket, bro Like, left

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Speaker 2: hand finishes, right hand finishes, mid range jump shot, pull up,

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Speaker 2: spot up off the dribbers, pull up three left, uh

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Speaker 2: condunc it shoot ninety something percent for the free thrown line.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can pass handled the probably the best handles

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Speaker 2: we've ever seen, right, I mean, And and it's crazy

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Speaker 2: because I mean, yeah, he has like little drills that

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Speaker 2: he does, but everything he do is reaction. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: like he's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna do this, and

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Speaker 2: then I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna do that. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: however you he's looking at the game, his artistry is

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Speaker 2: exactly what it is because you can't make it up.

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Speaker 2: The moves that he's doing. I don't think he know

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Speaker 2: what it is because he's literally just reacting and he's

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Speaker 2: that talented to do what he do.

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Speaker 5: All in the stream for real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he put a move on Steph in Golden State

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Speaker 4: that have men, I'm yeah, and pulled up on him

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Speaker 4: and Katie. I'm like, bro, what was that? I had

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Speaker 4: to watch it like twenty times? What was that? Well?

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Speaker 2: Bro, people don't realize how tough a shot it is

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Speaker 2: that from three foot from three feet away. The actual

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Speaker 2: jump shot over a guy coming towards you. A big man,

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Speaker 2: he makes that shot all the time. Glass nothing but

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Speaker 2: that ring around like all the time, left hand and

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Speaker 2: right hand. That's a tough shot.

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Speaker 5: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 6: Next step on the list, another one of your teammates.

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Speaker 6: A three year peak twenty two points, fourteen rebounds, four

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Speaker 6: hundred and seven double doubles in the twenty ten's third

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Speaker 6: most obviously sacrifice when he joined you guys in Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: Five time All Star, twenty ten Rebound champion, twenty sixteen, two.

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Speaker 2: Time All NBA.

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Speaker 4: Talk to us a little bit about Kevin Love.

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Speaker 2: They Love is such a great dude. Man, I came out.

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Speaker 2: Love is my guy. He's one of the greatest teammates

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Speaker 2: As a player, he's a hell of a competitor, definitely

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Speaker 2: really don't really know. keV really didn't play that well offensively,

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Speaker 2: like how he was quote unquote sopposed on Game seven,

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Speaker 2: he came from in Minnesota and really accepted, you know,

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Speaker 2: pretty much you know, I'm gonna do the dirty work

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Speaker 2: much as people want to talk about how Brian and

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Speaker 2: Kai was, you know, the dominant force. I remember, Tire,

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Speaker 2: I think keV had thirty in the first quarter against

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Speaker 2: Portland at the crib, like it was like and it

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Speaker 2: was a stretch of games where he was just going

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously focus on and el Bron and wanted

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Speaker 2: how good keV was one of the spot ups and

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Speaker 2: backing it down, I'm saying, And he can get to

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Speaker 2: the get to the free throw line, so really strongest

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Speaker 2: helf and loves to pass the ball, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, loves the outlet the ball, loves to

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Speaker 2: So and it's it was a hell of a dude,

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Speaker 2: though even better player.

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Speaker 6: I think people forget the dominance he had in Minnesota

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Speaker 6: because they didn't really win, but the numbers he was

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Speaker 6: putting up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Were ridiculous, bro. And you know what's funny about Kevvan

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Speaker 2: Kevin is still the only person there from that championship

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Speaker 2: went going for going from a team where we were

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Speaker 2: you know, and then come back to being a player

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Speaker 2: like damn, the playoff caliber team now. It's uh. I

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Speaker 2: respect him a lot for that because that's that's a

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Speaker 2: hard thing to do. You know what I'm saying. It's

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Speaker 2: a real Obviously he getting well paid for it too,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's not easy, man, because that's something you

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Speaker 2: love to do, that's your passion. Me as a competitor,

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Speaker 2: I ain't even man, I can't take too much losing,

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was in my Little Clipper stint,

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Speaker 3: I got a chance to see k Love go against

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Speaker 3: Blake and he finished the game like thirty thirty eight,

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Speaker 3: twenty five some shit like that, and I'm like, like,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, God, damn, Bro, I did not know k

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Speaker 4: Love was like that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like. You know, it's funny because people people

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Speaker 2: get so caught up and you know, want to see

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Speaker 2: somebody play above the rim and think that's the only

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Speaker 2: way the game is supposed to be played. And when

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Speaker 2: you see somebody just fundamentally like got it, like young

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Speaker 2: boy from AI Game, Bro, he reminds me so much

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Speaker 2: of k Love stack.

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Speaker 4: Like he did Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Fundamentally sound Bro, he got it. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Next up, we got four time All Star, three time

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Speaker 3: NBA Champ, seven time All Defenses twenty sixteen seventeen stals Champ,

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Speaker 3: two time All NBA twenty sixteen seventeen Defensive Player the

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Speaker 3: year he had a three year peak at eleven points

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Speaker 3: per game, eight rebounds per game, seven and six per

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Speaker 3: game you played against him.

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Speaker 4: In the finals, Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to Draymond, I know you ain't playing

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Speaker 2: on defense stack because you don't know what STL. I mean, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I know you did that you're stats because I was

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Speaker 3: But I know that, yeah, well, well one thing, one

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Speaker 3: thing about his switch. I'll go to state team that

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Speaker 3: year we would led the league is still so I

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Speaker 3: know I had to be at the top of the team,

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Speaker 3: but I.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely I definitely didn't know what that means.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're stupid.

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Speaker 2: Uh, dray bond Man, Draymond Green. Great dude, like one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent great dude. But fun to ticket Pete against

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Speaker 2: just because you know he talked and antics and all

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Speaker 2: of that. That part of it is. It's fun, very

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Speaker 2: blessed to be playing with really good.

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Speaker 4: No question, I have no question.

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Speaker 2: I will say that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think I think because his numbers don't jump

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Speaker 6: off the pays that people kind of have a problem

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Speaker 6: with his game or his accolades or what he receives.

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Speaker 6: But to me, he's just a winning motherfucker and he

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Speaker 6: got in a great situation. There's no no, you know,

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Speaker 6: no doubt about that. But if you think about it

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Speaker 6: because you played against him. We played against him, I

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Speaker 6: played with him. He's the one that makes that machine go.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 2: I can. I can respect that. Like you compete, Bro,

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Speaker 2: Like you, if you compete, no matter no matter how

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Speaker 2: talented you are, no matter how you know, whether great

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Speaker 2: or high or low talent level you were at. If

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Speaker 2: you don't compete, you are it don't it don't even matter.

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Speaker 2: Like I ain't gonna lie dead on my team in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: He competed all of anybody I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: He was literally about to die in the playoffs. Like literally, Bro,

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Speaker 2: we in the back after the game, like Steph almost

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Speaker 2: killed this man. I'm not. I'm never going not tell

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Speaker 2: you he don't compete, because he definitely do.

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Speaker 3: But I just imagine how good that would be if

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Speaker 3: he just worked on his shot. That's the only thing

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Speaker 3: I have a problem with, Like he's comfortable with people

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Speaker 3: just disrespecting me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all still win it, y'all still get championships without it.

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Speaker 3: Bro, But me, if he just worked on his jump

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Speaker 3: shot and shot it with copper, he does.

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Speaker 2: About to say, I'm not convinced he don't Jack.

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Speaker 3: I'm convinced he I'm convinced he don't know he does.

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Speaker 4: I think because I could chance to.

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Speaker 6: I saw how hard this dude worked day after day

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Speaker 6: after day.

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Speaker 5: I think, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I agree with you. You got I agree with

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Speaker 2: mental at this point when you hear, when you continuously hear,

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Speaker 2: whether it be on Twitter or on social media, or

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Speaker 2: or watch TV or you know, can people continuously talk

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Speaker 2: about your shot you can't shoot? That's mental, bro. You

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Speaker 2: already every time you catch that ball, you're already thinking

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Speaker 2: about you not going to make the shot, or what

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Speaker 2: everybody else is gonna say. You already got a second

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Speaker 2: guess a shooter. You ain't. Man, Let me look that

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Speaker 2: thing over here. You can't get over here fastening.

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Speaker 6: And I think too, you all know, I mean, because

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Speaker 6: we all shot the ball to three. The hardest shot,

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Speaker 6: the hardest shot to make is the wide open one

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Speaker 6: when no one's guarding you.

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Speaker 5: That shit is hard to make.

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Speaker 6: Like, I'd rather have someone close or hand up with

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Speaker 6: like I couldn't have met, Like, that's got to be

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Speaker 6: a tough ass shot to make.

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Speaker 2: Man, one hundred percent and they leave me, leave and

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Speaker 2: you know it's crazy, and we talk with one of

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Speaker 2: his benefits. We did the same thing. Or Andre Goadalad.

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Speaker 2: He burnt the eyes up in twenty fifteen for the

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Speaker 2: first ship. That's why he got finals in VP. We

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Speaker 2: left him and he kept knocking that ship down every

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie I live. I would have lived

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Speaker 4: with that, bro. I just want to lock him like right.

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Speaker 2: Bro, that's what that's what we did. And when we

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Speaker 2: live with it, we're like, damn sh it, gonna beat

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Speaker 2: us with that and ship and he got founded out

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Speaker 2: like ship. We got to take our head off because

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Speaker 2: that was the game front and the show beat us

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 3: Big get hit three threes, then go to the pre

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Speaker 2: But look at this, look at it though, Think about

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Speaker 2: this though, Think about this. Twenty fifteen, that's the game plan, right,

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Speaker 2: they beat us, no Kyrie, no cave. That next year

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Speaker 2: we come back and win. Then they go get KD

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Speaker 2: and they went to the what you what you mean right,

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Speaker 2: that's what it's supposed to happen that we call it square.

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Speaker 2: What's happening right? It's a different book.

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Speaker 6: Is the fuck That team was a fucking cheat code man.

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Speaker 6: Next up another one. Five time All Star, two times

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Speaker 6: All NBA All Defensive Team twenty nineteen, three time NBA Champ,

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Speaker 6: All Rookie Team in twenty eleven, three year peak twenty

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Speaker 6: two point shooting forty three percent from the.

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Speaker 5: Three point line. The other splash brother, Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Problem problem for real, boy, He's a problem. Ratcha batcha

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Speaker 2: get it over there. You can't get it over there

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Speaker 2: fast enough. Anything I like about him though, he compete,

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Speaker 2: though he know he compete. He ain't talking shit. He

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Speaker 2: wanted the quietest people on the court unless he talking

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Speaker 2: to his team, and he get hyped, you know in

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Speaker 2: the big moments obviously like most people. But he not

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Speaker 2: allowed there just chirping and be chirping and trying to

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Speaker 2: be chippy and all of that. He played again the

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Speaker 2: right way, and I really like Clay for that. He'd

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Speaker 2: be saying some wild shit though off the court though

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Speaker 2: about people, but I don't really fuck with But he

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Speaker 2: can hoop though, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 6: But I like that about Clay too is obviously he

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Speaker 6: played defense. You know, he was the guy before he hurt.

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Speaker 6: He's starting to get back to. He was the one

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Speaker 6: always that took the toughest matches for that team on

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Speaker 6: the wing. And then also he didn't have a shot pocket,

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Speaker 6: and which is crazy because everyone alway says great shooters

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Speaker 6: get to your shot pocket. Clay could catch that bitch

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Speaker 6: anywhere and let it go right where he caught it at.

436
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: Like sign his head off to the side.

437
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 5: Let it go.

438
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 6: Me and the Twins do a drills called It's the

439
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: Clayder like wherever you wherever I throw the ball, you

440
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 6: got to shoot it from right Like That's how Clay

441
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 6: would catch that bitch and just let it go from

442
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 6: any perspective. And that's the one thing too, when I

443
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 6: got a chance to play with that team. Not to

444
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 6: cut you off, Jr. Steph is the greatest shooter of

445
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 6: all time, but if we go shot for shot, it's

446
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 6: hard to tell who is the actual just best spot

447
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 6: up three point shooter between those two because they're both

448
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 6: Like I would watch, you know, after after practice workouts,

449
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 6: where Clay would missed two shots out of maybe like

450
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 6: two hundred shots. It would be just unbelievable how many

451
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 6: just straight consecutive fucking shots he would make do so great.

452
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Playing man Seth good Seth, Seth got a gun man

453
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: like yeah, oh yeah, Shoot.

454
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 6: It's in the family for sure, in the family. Next

455
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 6: up one of my former teammates. Six time All Star

456
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 6: All Rookie Team in eleven, five time All NBA Rookie

457
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 6: of the Year and eleven as well, three year peak

458
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 6: twenty two, nine and five. To me, one of the

459
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 6: most versatile four mans that we've seen. Injuries obviously slowed

460
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 6: him down. But Blake Griffin, oh, big cat Blake.

461
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Blake is funny man. Blake is Blake. Blake is a character, Bros.

462
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: He's a funny dude. He's a good dude man. His

463
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: game was unfortunately, you know, injuries and stuff like that,

464
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: but Blake has so much game explosions. Bro. When he

465
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: first came out, I was thinking, like I got said,

466
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: we've seen stat and Statt was like, yo, hey, y'all.

467
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: Then we seen Blake Blake was doing. I thought, I thought,

468
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: I mean it was oh my god. He was jumped

469
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: with Mosgow. People. I played with Mosgow. I know how

470
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: big Mosgo is. Bro Seventh rushing like big like he

471
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: jumped over that man, Bro. And then the DJ was

472
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: next to him too.

473
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: Right, two lock, Driss.

474
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: That's the one thing when you mentioned Dawhight Howard, I

475
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 6: put Blake right behind Kobe as far as the hardest

476
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 6: working people I've ever seen. When they say first man

477
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 6: the end, last man out, that's no exaggeration with this

478
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 6: dude worked so hard on his jumper.

479
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 5: Really, the way he hit, the way he.

480
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 6: Was able to, I mean, he was bro When I

481
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 6: tell you he was in there an hour for practice

482
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 6: before anyone would. He'd be drenched by the time. We're

483
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 6: just kind of like we would still come out early

484
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 6: and get our shots up. He had gone through a

485
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 6: whole full ball handling, jump shot workout. It just you

486
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 6: could really see his game. And I think an underestimated

487
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 6: thing about his game was his ball handling and his

488
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 6: passing ability, because that motherfucker couldn't pass the ball too.

489
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 6: But Blake and his prime with them Lob City teams, man,

490
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 6: I've seen him do some unbelievable shit.

491
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: I worked out with him a few times with my

492
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: man Eton and out there in u Cla. And he

493
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: was he was a problem, bro ye. He definitely had

494
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: to like workout in the workout, but I didn't know

495
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: he went that hard though. That stuff.

496
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 5: Yeah know, you definitely put the time in.

497
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: Next up.

498
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: Paul George three year peak, twenty five points for game,

499
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: seven rebounds for game, for assistle game, fifteen career points

500
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: in counting, seven time all starts, six time All NBA

501
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Now twenty nineteen, Steels Champ twenty eleven, Rookie Team twenty twelve,

502
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: thirteen most Improved full time All Defensive. PG is a

503
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: problem man. What's your thoughts on PG?

504
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: Man? PG got game Bro? PG got a game super

505
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: game Like. He's so smooth though, I felt like he

506
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: was like he had like a modern day bro. He

507
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: was like a modern day like Eddie Jones Bro. Like

508
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: he was so bove Bro. Like he gets pat that thing,

509
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: he can get off to any left right, like he creative.

510
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: What he was a problem Indiana Bro. He knocked us

511
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: out and with the next it was tough.

512
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: That was welcome to the league.

513
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: That was that the year they beat Miami or no,

514
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: they battle.

515
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: Battle Miami right after that.

516
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: Ye, you know, PG is tough and any and he

517
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 6: plays both and that's what I respect too. I mean,

518
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: I think he's white and and just it looks effortless,

519
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 6: you know, the way he handles the ball, offensively shoots

520
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 6: the ball, gets into his moves.

521
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: Is he was a motherfucker man?

522
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He definitely was competing.

523
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: Bro.

524
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: He like all arms too, Like ye had that. I

525
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: heard he had that work ethic too, talking to no,

526
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: not be Scott, but sew oh be.

527
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 6: Sure yeah sure be sure that working Yeah, no, you

528
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: get the great talent man next up. The game plan

529
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 6: was don't let this man go left. And every time

530
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: he would get left. His three year peak was seventeen

531
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 6: four and four from the three point line, Hall of Famer,

532
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: two time All Star, two time All NBA six Man

533
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 6: of the Year in two thousand and eight, four time

534
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 6: NBA Champ, All Rookie Team in two thousand and three,

535
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 6: Man New Genoblee.

536
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Man, and it was another one compete Like hell, bro.

537
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: He was crafty though, like one thing about he was

538
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: real crafty, bro Like he would do anything. He act

539
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: like he hurt to go get the ball.

540
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 5: Bro.

541
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: Like I was like, damn, bro, like you like that,

542
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: like you you can't put nothing past them. I mean, shit,

543
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: a European bro. I mean everybody was calling that the man.

544
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: Now they started calling it James. You know what I'm saying.

545
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 6: Remember he would come down on that right side of

546
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 6: the floor with that high screen roll and you try

547
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: to ice it or blew it whatever fuck your team

548
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 6: called it, not letting him get off that screen. But

549
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: once he got off that screen early in his career,

550
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: he was coming down Blane and dunking that motherfucker.

551
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: You got you got any good man New stories. Jack

552
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: one of my favorite teammates. I mean, he wanted first people.

553
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: He definitely brought the euro step, the euro step to

554
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: the league. But he used to shamguard people going full speed. Yes, sir, yep,

555
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: he was one of the first people. Yeah, shamguards. You

556
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: didn't go bang on in. I seen him do that

557
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. So but as far as competing and

558
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: playing hard like I always gotta tell this story, brouhh,

559
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: why he one of my favorite teammates. You know how

560
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: we how we look out for each other, and like

561
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: guys like us, we never got the accolades we deserved

562
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: because the good guy or the big name teammate.

563
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: But really he was the hardest soul of the team.

564
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: And when I hit all those shots and let the

565
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: team and score on the West Conference Finals, he made

566
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: it a point to tell me I deserve the MVP,

567
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying when they was giving it

568
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: to other people.

569
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: But but you know, he was just one of those.

570
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Solid dudes man, that you want on your team that

571
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: regardless where he was from, he want He was somebody

572
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: you wanted on your team.

573
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 6: So if they had the magic Johnson Western Conference MVP

574
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 6: Finals MVP, you would have snack that bitch.

575
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hey, you know what, Matt. The great thing

576
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: about it, all they gotta do is google it. Game

577
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: six Western Conference Finals. It don't life five was full

578
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: of that dope on one.

579
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: Oh straight up.

580
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: Next up we got three year people's nineteen points game,

581
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: eleven rebounds per game, eighteen and a half thousand career points,

582
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: two thousand dollar Stars, twenty eleven all NBA. You probably

583
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: had the best touch around the basket next to Tim Duncan.

584
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: That wasn't athletic, somebody that we all want to play with.

585
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: We re respect Z Bowl, Zach Randolph.

586
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: We bowl the Bowl og. That's the very game. Great dude.

587
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 5: Did y'all play together in New York?

588
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: Nah Man? I wish I got an opportunity for z

589
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: bow Man. We just kept crossing paths all the time

590
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: when Uh, I'll play with whenever our teams will play

591
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: against each other. There was always somebody on my team

592
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: that I rock with always, and it was, Uh, he's

593
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: a good dude to be around. Man. Back when she

594
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: was young, Will was she was there, So he's a Memphis.

595
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: He can't right with us a couple of times, ye dog.

596
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 6: Bro Oh god, he's twenty and ten, and I think

597
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: he doesn't get the recognitioned again because he wasn't. He

598
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 6: wasn't a high flyer, you know what I mean, had

599
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 6: ten dunks his whole career. That motherfucker would give you

600
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 6: that jab face up, work back you down, get twenty

601
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: rebounds and barely jump over a penny like z Bo

602
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 6: strength basketball IQ.

603
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: You know I got.

604
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: We got a chance to play with each other towards

605
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 6: the end of both of our careers.

606
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: But he was still I was a Memphis together. Yeah, yeah,

607
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: he was.

608
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: Still putting them working like you said, man, even at

609
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 6: great player, but even a better person.

610
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: Man.

611
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: Jersey retired back.

612
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: And he did a lot for the city, man Like,

613
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: he really did keep that city together for a while.

614
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Man while every like while he was there, he really

615
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 2: embraced it.

616
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: Man.

617
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm from whether it be the rappers community, like he

618
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: really is your imprint and people like, you know, people

619
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: respect him out there, like as as a person.

620
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 6: He put money bag on. He was the one that

621
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: was putting he found money bag. I remember he used

622
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: to we talked about on the show, but he used

623
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 6: to bring his mixtape in the locker room all time

624
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 6: and just bang this shit. We're like, yo, at first

625
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 6: it was dope, but we're just like, he's always playing

626
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: who is this dude?

627
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 5: Next thing?

628
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: You know, this dude's on top. Okay, yeah, that's that's

629
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 6: z Bo's dude. So that's what's up. Well, due to

630
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 6: cond constraints, we didn't have a chance to finish the

631
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: rest of the twenty tens, but here are the rest

632
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: of our picks for the twenty tens next seventy five.

633
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: All right, jay all, we appreciate your time.

634
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: Bro.

635
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: We'll talk to you soon.

636
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: All right, brother, appreciate y'all.

637
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 4: Wife,