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Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who guys thoughts on that. We'll

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Speaker 4: So Eli, it would max out his player option at

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Speaker 2: Okay, So will a team give or Haesler?

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a thirteen million dollar option, to be clear,

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Speaker 4: So you'd probably be less willing to take that qualifying offer.

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Speaker 3: I think Matt Chapman entering this year, Matt Chapman was

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he's gonna, you know, just stay

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Speaker 1: I think we'll know who the next couple of players

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Speaker 1: I really don't know what's gonna happen with that extra

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Speaker 3: It's everybody hates the answer, but that extra last spot

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Speaker 3: in Triple A. It's been kind of a limited role.

439
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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna i don't think he's necessarily pressing

440
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Speaker 3: to get called up as a third catcher in there.

441
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Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be Exavier Edwards, and it's probably gonna

442
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Speaker 3: be it's definitely gonna be another picture just when all

443
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Speaker 3: the pictures are healthy and available at the same time.

444
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be relatively clear cut that way.

445
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Speaker 1: Looks like we lost SI. Well, then again, we'll get

446
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Speaker 1: the banned questions quickly here or will do week ahead.

447
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for listen different time this week,

448
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Speaker 1: or try and go back to the normal time next week.

449
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Speaker 2: Guy Isaac coming back, hold on, I want to hear

450
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Speaker 2: what he has to say. He's probably in agreement. I

451
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Speaker 2: would think that maybe they do, Eddie. Maybe it's a

452
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Speaker 2: random reliever.

453
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I think, and I mean, I guess

454
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Speaker 3: the most fun random reliever that we could see for

455
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: the first time is Anthony Maldonado. Yeah, I don't know.

456
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: I guess do they value him a little bit more

457
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 3: than Tommy Nance. Maybe the fact that Tommy Nance has

458
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: now been on the roster for four games and has

459
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Speaker 3: not pitched. I think that shows you that he's not

460
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Speaker 3: really a high priority guy. So maybe they do that,

461
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Speaker 3: maybe they swap out one pitcher for another, but yeah,

462
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: either way, as much as they need offense, I mean,

463
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: Troy Johnson has nowhere to play right now. I mean, really,

464
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Speaker 3: the only way they can be bold and shake these

465
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Speaker 3: up is if they actually cut some of these veterans

466
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Speaker 3: that aren't doing anything. And I mean the most obvious

467
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Speaker 3: one is Wendell, but he plays a position at shortstop.

468
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: That mean these other options aren't like great fits. Edwards

469
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: is not a shortstop. Jacob Amaya has not been hitting

470
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Speaker 3: well since his initial cup of coffee in the majors,

471
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Speaker 3: so that's some i'd be I mean, I would encourage

472
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Speaker 3: that call with that decision, with the fact that Wendall

473
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Speaker 3: is a pending free agent and that he has been

474
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Speaker 3: hitting so badly over the an extended period of time. Now,

475
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably the appropriate move would be say

476
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Speaker 3: goodbye to Wendall and just try your luck with the

477
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Speaker 3: guy next man up. In the minors. We play Hampson

478
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Speaker 3: a little bit more at shortstop because at least Hampson

479
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: has been able to hit somewhat this season, So yeah,

480
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Speaker 3: that's that's probably a move I'd advocate for at this

481
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Speaker 3: point with Wendell say goodbye to him. But yeah, I'm

482
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Speaker 3: not super optimistic that they're going to do that unfortunately.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I would agree to much with

484
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Speaker 4: doing that, just because at this stage in the season,

485
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Speaker 4: he has allegedly been your toptain the year, just played

486
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Speaker 4: superb short stop. I'm sorry to superb defense that short

487
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Speaker 4: and you know we're you to go with Birdie and

488
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Speaker 4: Hampson and maybe Edwards there.

489
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Speaker 2: I don't see them doing that.

490
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Speaker 4: He is also the head bet who granted is not

491
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Speaker 4: doing anything, but I don't see them doing that. I'm

492
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Speaker 4: not sure I would agree with with uh getting rid

493
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Speaker 4: of him.

494
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Speaker 2: At this stage.

495
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Speaker 4: I think any off season he's a free agent anyway,

496
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Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna get much better production from

497
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Speaker 4: anyone else at that position, in.

498
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Speaker 1: Particularly well maybe on the defensive side, on the oppositive side.

499
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Speaker 1: I mean, the only way to go is up at

500
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Speaker 1: this point. But like as a Marlin, the Marlins really

501
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: really valuing those clubhouse guys, because why I was really

502
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Speaker 1: surprised they actually cut ties with gar We've heard.

503
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Speaker 2: All year like he was a really good leader and

504
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Speaker 2: all that. I was really surprised.

505
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Speaker 1: That they got rid of him Wendell at this point

506
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Speaker 1: this season, he's been the captain, he's been the vocal leader, if.

507
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Speaker 2: He's been the vet. It just doesn't seem like a

508
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Speaker 2: very Marlins thing to do.

509
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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. I'll just find out the last time

510
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Speaker 3: Joey Wendell has not had a multi hit game since

511
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Speaker 3: the All Star Break. I kept scrolling and scrolling.

512
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Speaker 2: And looking for it.

513
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: There's been none, No multi games. Forget that, basically only

514
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: hit singles and occasional doubles. It's just it's been. It's

515
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Speaker 3: been kind of below the line of acceptable offense. Even

516
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Speaker 3: if you think, even if you think he's an above

517
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Speaker 3: average defensive shortstop, which I'd say he probably has been,

518
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Speaker 3: but it's so far it's really just not acceptable for

519
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Speaker 3: a team that is trying to win. And even if

520
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: those next men up aren't like really forcing the issue,

521
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Speaker 3: it's it doesn't hurt to see what you have in

522
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Speaker 3: those guys before the end of the season. A little

523
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Speaker 3: bit more, get a little bit more intel on either

524
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Speaker 3: Edwards or my in that position. But it's a four

525
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: hundred ops since the All Star Break. It's just it's

526
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Speaker 3: I think it is below the line of acceptable performance.

527
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Speaker 3: I'll leaves. We have the first one to mention that

528
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Speaker 3: I was expecting quite a lot from him when he

529
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Speaker 3: came back from that injury earlier this year. I thought

530
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Speaker 3: he was a nice floor razor. I did not imagine

531
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Speaker 3: that somebody with his track record and ability could be

532
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: this much of a liability offensively. But it's yeah, and

533
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: things are pretty good. I think when you interviewed him

534
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: for Unfiltered, I guess that was right around they also right,

535
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: things were in pretty good shape. I think he had

536
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: a mini hot streak around there, but it's it's kind

537
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Speaker 3: of the unfiltered curse. That's when his production has really

538
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Speaker 3: created offensively.

539
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Speaker 1: Unfiltered curse.

540
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Speaker 2: So one, have you done the Josh Bell? Isaac? Where's

541
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Speaker 2: he right now? Is he okay? So what do you

542
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: mean Josh Bell?

543
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Speaker 1: That was the last on filter Gas? Yeah, see about

544
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Speaker 1: the slump. Did you do some really magic to him?

545
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: No, he was actually really hot. Right after that interview,

546
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Speaker 4: he had a three hit game.

547
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Speaker 2: I want to say, so you were the script.

548
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: Now right after that and then he homeworked a few

549
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: days later. But yes, I actually I invest around with him,

550
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Speaker 4: and I think it was in LA I was like, yeah,

551
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: since I'm filter. E've been scorching the ball, so maybe

552
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Speaker 4: it says he started struggling a little bit.

553
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Speaker 2: But I think I'm gonna stop. I think all of us.

554
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: With having a player guests for the rest of the season,

555
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: just in case there is any bad juju with that.

556
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: So hey, we'll stop for a while.

557
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: Well, he wanted to do a show with David Robertson,

558
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: and Robertson declined, and let you see how that turned out. Yeah,

559
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: I won't say anything more on that, but he wouldn't

560
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: have him on what a relief that would have been. Well,

561
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Speaker 3: you never know how things might have gone differently with that.

562
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Speaker 3: May have been a sliding doors moment in his Marlin's tenure.

563
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Speaker 2: It exists. I'll say, all right, let's go we ahead.

564
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Speaker 1: Another one of those series ahead where now with a

565
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: new scheduled format, you're like al rival or oppositely rival.

566
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Speaker 1: He played four games against the two games splits, and

567
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Speaker 1: there's a day off before that. Other teams have a

568
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Speaker 1: day off after, but so somewhat of a shorter week

569
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Speaker 1: or two gamer against the Rays and then have to

570
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Speaker 1: see the Nationals again. I believe it's the last time

571
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and see the Nationals this year.

572
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Speaker 2: I gain counting in my head.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it's the final series against an act.

574
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: So just what are you guys really really looking at

575
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: coming ahead this week?

576
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Speaker 4: Well, I guess you just got to hope for strong

577
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: starts from Lozardo and Sandy. These two games, you're gonna

578
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 4: have a couple of days off where because you get

579
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 4: the day off tomorrow and then looking here, that's the

580
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 4: last day up until the following Monday, which is September fourth.

581
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're definitely gonna need these guys to go deep.

582
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Speaker 2: At these give you six on Sandy's case.

583
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 4: And hope for seven, and then yeah, you got to

584
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: really make ups and ground in those four games in Washington.

585
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: Luckily it's for and I think by then the Nationals

586
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: fire will have maybe gone out a little bit and

587
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: they won't be as hot. But then right after that

588
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: you get Mickey Rohaus and the Dodgers coming into Miami, and.

589
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: That's not gonna be easy at all.

590
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: We just remember what Mookie Betts does against the Marlins

591
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: last time the Dodgers were here.

592
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: He had four home runs basically three games started. He's

593
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: making an MVV charge right now, and.

594
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: We know what he did against the Marlins just a

595
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: week ago, So they really really have to at the

596
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: bare minimum split that Tampa Bay Ray series and win

597
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: three out of four. I think if you don't do

598
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: those two things, then it starts getting ugly, especially considering

599
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: there really are four other teams that are buying for

600
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: that same one playoff spot that you are, and they're

601
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Speaker 4: not losing the way that the Marlins are at the stage,

602
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: and I don't think they will continue.

603
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: So I don't think they will be losing the way

604
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: that the Marlins are right now. So at least win

605
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: four out of those six. It's a lot baster, but

606
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean, all takes is one chance to catch fire.

607
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't think the day was that motivating game. I

608
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: don't know it was not.

609
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 4: You can like incense in the clubhousehold you want, you

610
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: can fix the juju or whatever way you want.

611
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: It hasn't done anything for the offense.

612
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: Like I said, eight runs scored against starting pitchers in

613
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Speaker 4: forty five innings.

614
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Speaker 2: They have to get to the starterists.

615
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: They've been making their lives way too easy, especially in

616
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: logo and walk in San Diego. They mew with the

617
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: Discovery reports set and they're swinging to a curve balls.

618
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: They could wait and walk this change up, and it's

619
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Speaker 4: just it's a very frustrating, frustrating a couple of weeks

620
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: for Miami's offense right now, that's been awful.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, every week moving forward, you need to look at

622
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Speaker 3: it as taking two out of every three games kind

623
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Speaker 3: of the rest of the year to see where they

624
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: are in the standings at the moment. What now one

625
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: game over five hundred and I think we talked about

626
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: before that the kind of the bare minimum to get

627
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: a wild card spot will probably be eighty four wins,

628
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: so that would be going eighteen and thirteen the rest

629
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Speaker 3: of the way. Yeah, you can't really afford a single

630
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: week that was quite like this moving forward, and yeah,

631
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: there's it's a mixed bag in terms of their upcoming schedule. Yeah,

632
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: with this Nats team, they should be better than the Nats.

633
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: Though as well as they had been playing and extended

634
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: Church coming into this from watching the series, it didn't

635
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: necessarily look like the Nats or anything special. The biggest

636
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: reason why he could say they won the series is

637
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: because they got quality starts from all three of their

638
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: very mid starters in this one. You didn't even face

639
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: like the biggest boys at the top of their rotation.

640
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 3: It felt more like the Marvelin's struggling more so than

641
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: the Nats being anybody that you should be intimidated by.

642
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: So I am cautiously optimistic that they can win that

643
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: series later in the week. I mean, as for the Rays,

644
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: they're in this really weird spot. I think overall they've

645
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: been playing well even without Wander Franco, and especially offensively,

646
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: they continued to be a really good offensive team even

647
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: in his absence. Certainly fallen off from where they were

648
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: at the start of the year, and their rotation at

649
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: this moment, the raised rotation is even more vulnerable than

650
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: the Nationals. It's kind of it's Zach Efflyn and Tyler

651
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: Glass now and then a bunch of suspects along with them.

652
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: As let me take a look at who. I don't

653
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: know if the Rays have announced their starters yet for

654
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: those two games. For sure, won't be Glass now, I

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Speaker 3: know that he very recently pitched, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: he'll be Efflyn. Oh that's right. Aaron Savali is the

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Speaker 3: one that they went out of their organ acquired and

658
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Speaker 3: Savali has had a great year thus far. You look

659
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Speaker 3: at the peripherals, and it doesn't all look legit for him,

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Speaker 3: like he's a candidate to regress later in the year,

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Speaker 3: even though he has been preventing runs at a really

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Speaker 3: good rate to this point this season. Yeah, so it's some. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a relatively tough matchup in terms of the few

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Speaker 3: guys that the Rays do have available to actually start

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Speaker 3: games for them. They'll be coming up an off day,

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Speaker 3: just like the Marlins are. So yeah, you gotta find

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Speaker 3: a way to split that series, which is I think

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Speaker 3: that was the case when they went up to Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: They had Sandy put the team on his back and

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Speaker 3: steal the second game of that. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: that's what you're realistically hoping for this year is splitting

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Speaker 3: this this week, is splitting that series with the Rays

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Speaker 3: and then winning three out of four for the Nats.

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Speaker 3: that fantasy baseball league. It's gonna be to I forget

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Speaker 3: two field level tickets to it. They're gonna be a

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Speaker 3: be Opening Day twenty twenty four. So yeah, I'll keep

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Speaker 2: I won't. We'll have to figure out tomorrow. Season is

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 1: But it's good that we wait to be contented. You

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Speaker 1: guys won't get to screw every by injuries. But I

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Speaker 1: got all elm out here. Tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about this card. You're giving a way to get

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a player that is spoken about often on

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Speaker 5: this show and it's a very nice card.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say who it is until we

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Speaker 2: have a.

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Speaker 5: Winner, but someone that is a fan favorite as a

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Speaker 5: monster home run at some point in the last couple

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Speaker 5: of years. That really pushed the Marlins to a win

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Speaker 5: in that game. And yeah, it's a great good card.

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Speaker 5: I think Eli knows who it is, but he's worn

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Speaker 5: the secrets here, is is it?

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Speaker 2: Garrett Cooper? No?

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Speaker 1: All right, I we'll guess further. All right, what kind

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Speaker 1: of questions we have today? And we don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of people listening, so as many as.

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Speaker 5: You like, not so much questions. Well I do, but

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Speaker 5: let me get a couple of points.

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Speaker 2: Out of the way that I've written down here week itself.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm always positive. I was driving with Ryan

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Speaker 2: on the way home last night.

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Speaker 5: His ended up giving me a ride back to Boyton,

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Speaker 5: which really appreciated of that.

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Speaker 2: But they were even saying, dude, for the most positive

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Speaker 2: fin you're kind of like down today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday's loss really like took the wind out of

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Speaker 5: my sales, just more or less the umpiring. I didn't

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Speaker 5: get to see the replay of the pitch, so I'll

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Speaker 5: ask this question. Was that pitch that Robertson grew on TV?

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Speaker 5: If anyone was watching, was that strike or was it

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Speaker 5: a ball?

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Speaker 2: It was low? Okay, because when you were there, it

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Speaker 2: did not low.

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Speaker 5: And I believe he should have got the benefit of it,

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Speaker 5: doubt Regardless, yesterday's really took the wind out of my sales.

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Speaker 5: But as always, there's still a lot of games left,

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Speaker 5: so I believe we are going to finish with at

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Speaker 5: least eighty four wins, whether that's a playoff bit or not,

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Speaker 5: that's the type of season we believed that we would get,

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Speaker 5: and they're exceeding some people's expectations there. I had them

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Speaker 5: finished in between seventy five and he won wins. So anyway,

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Speaker 5: I think maybe you guys could join in on this

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Speaker 5: as a question. But you mentioned you're mentioning so Laire's contract,

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Speaker 5: whether he'll opt in or get he probably not up in,

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Speaker 5: but get the that that the qualifying amount. If the Marlins,

786
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Speaker 5: they were rumored at least to have conversations with the Royals,

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Speaker 5: what happens First do they get the catcher and then

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Speaker 5: make the deal with Sotilare If there's any money left,

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Speaker 5: let's say it is Perez, or if they get Perez,

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Speaker 5: is the Solaire deal do you believe would be totally

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Speaker 5: out of the picture.

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Speaker 1: I've got a ladder one and that's why I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the.

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Speaker 1: Back end the south of Perez's contract is gonna be

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Speaker 1: worth it the sacrifice of bringing back or Hey Solaire,

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Speaker 1: if it's one or the other. I think the Org's

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Speaker 1: definitely going still air.

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Speaker 2: And right now, I've said this a lot in these

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Speaker 2: spaces that the catcher position.

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Speaker 1: Right now offensively isn't a really bad spot across the league,

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Speaker 1: Like the few would have to pay a premium price

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Speaker 1: to get a really good catcher.

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Speaker 2: I think there's only three, like really really really good

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Speaker 2: offensive catchers right now.

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Speaker 1: It's Ali Reschmand, Jonah High, and Sean Murphy. And of

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: course they could have had Murphy last off season, but

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Speaker 1: that's just types of point. I just don't think they're

809
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Speaker 1: gonna go pay a premium price for a catcher that

810
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Speaker 1: might I mean maybe hit like two forty like at.

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Speaker 2: Mess just to go sacrifice or Aesilaire. That's what I

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Speaker 2: would say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with Salvey, it's going to be an interesting conversation

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Speaker 3: because he's he's really heavily overpaid. It all depends how

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Speaker 3: much money the Royals are willing to eat, or how

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Speaker 3: much they maybe they want to eat in order to

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Speaker 3: save face and get a better return, and it's a

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Speaker 3: bad it's a really bad contract. It's not quite as

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Speaker 3: bad as Avi's, all things considered, but it's it's kind

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Speaker 3: of in It might be in that conversation, It might

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Speaker 3: be in that same general area if you think about

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Speaker 3: it as and that's even including you know how productive

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Speaker 3: you still is. So I think they're going to turn

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Speaker 3: the page on him this offseason, but I've I have

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Speaker 3: no idea what that's gonna look like, because that's it's

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Speaker 3: not a big market franchise either. It's not a one

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Speaker 3: that is really as typically comfortable eating a lot of

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Speaker 3: money just to get out from under something, especially when

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Speaker 3: it's somebody as important as them. I think that's even

830
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Speaker 3: though there are very few options out there that seem feasible,

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Speaker 3: I think that is it's still a really unlikely one

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00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: unless the Royals kind of come to terms with where

833
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: he is at the stage of his career.

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Speaker 2: I agree. The next would be.

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Speaker 5: I believe Berdie should be in short every game at

836
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Speaker 5: this point over when though he's too much in a

837
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Speaker 5: deep streak, he's not coming that you're not seemingly coming

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Speaker 5: out of it. As you mentioned, it's been since the

839
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: All Star break that he's had a two hit game.

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00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: That bottom of the lineup is just atrocious.

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Speaker 5: Uh, But saying like it is, do you believe Berdie

842
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Speaker 5: gets the starts moving forward?

843
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to get more of the starts gradually.

844
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Speaker 3: The longer that this Wendell slump goes on, I think

845
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Speaker 3: he should get the majority of the starts. The thing is,

846
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Speaker 3: when you look into his splits, is just not very

847
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Speaker 3: productive against right handed pitching. A lot of his real

848
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Speaker 3: impact is concentrated against lefties. Against righties, he gets a

849
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: lot of singles, but he doesn't do much at all

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Speaker 3: beyond those singles, whereas against lefties he's he's a more

851
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Speaker 3: dangerous offensive player. And that's why ideally they wanted to

852
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 3: do that platooning between the two of them sounded fine

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Speaker 3: in concept, and now, unfortunately Wendell has totally cratered and

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Speaker 3: fallen off a cliff where he's not hitting righty's at

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Speaker 3: all either. So I don't know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 3: I said earlier in the show that I'd be fine

857
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Speaker 3: at them turning the page on Wendell and just trying

858
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Speaker 3: anybody else in that roster spot where it really has

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Speaker 3: reached the point. It's been such an extended struggle, in

860
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: such a severe struggle with him that I think that

861
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: should be in play. But I'll believe it when I

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00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: see it. I don't think it's gonna happen. And I

863
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: think it's generally that they're gonna split time. And I

864
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: guess Hampson now that he's on the roster, Hampson will

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: get occasional starts at shorts up as well. Just it's

866
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: a really messy situation. It's almost you could say it's

867
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: about as bad as the catcher situation, both now and

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00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately true that last thing, I'll say, I'm gotta jump

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Speaker 5: off and finish watching the stew pay per view. The

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Speaker 5: Marlins better enjoy the couple days off they have in

872
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: the next two weeks. As you mentioned, their next their

873
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: last day off for sixteen games is September fourth, so

874
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 5: it started September fifth. They have sixteen straight that coming

875
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: off of the thirteen straight games that.

876
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: They just had until late last week.

877
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 5: So hopefully we get on a winning streak because if

878
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 5: they don't get hot now, they're they're going to fall

879
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 5: out of it.

880
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: They're not there yet. I'm not leaving the white black.

881
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 5: But hopefully today's minor victory will set us off. So

882
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 5: thank you guys, and everyone go put that three dollars down.

883
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 5: If you're listening, go after this card and become a

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00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 5: super subscriber this point forward. Minimum three dollars. Of course

885
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: you can donate anymore please, due to this young staff.

886
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: They deserve it, and any money we put into it

887
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 5: as listeners, it will go back only to better company,

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00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 5: better and more contact content for us.

889
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, have a great day. Let's get louder. Hey,

890
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: we appreciate it.

891
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: We got Sean coming in here now, and we'll take

892
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: across from everyone too.

893
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a super subscriber to speak

894
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: in these spaces. We only got one right now. Again,

895
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: it's a shorter show. The experiment was trying to do

896
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: this right after the game. I guess we'll go back

897
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: normal time.

898
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: I'll have to pickure out what my schedule is gonna

899
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: look like back at school, but we got shot here.

900
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Sean's up mat.

901
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, well guess let's keep this question about some

902
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 6: of the obtainable positive things RUSS this season.

903
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: I just go around to Horn, what do you think

904
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: is most.

905
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 6: Likely to happen in order out of the Marlins finishing

906
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 6: over five hundred, Solaire taking passing Gary Sheffield for second

907
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 6: in Homer's or Ariah is still holding on to the

908
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 6: batting title.

909
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 3: I would say the most likely of those. I'll still

910
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: go with Arise and believe in his ability at this moment.

911
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: Let me just double check this, because I know Freddy

912
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: Freeman had another multi game and he's really the only

913
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: serious threat. Akunya is kind of far enough away that

914
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: I think it's basically a two horse race. Freddy Freeman

915
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: three for five today, that made him three point fifty

916
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: one in a rise, just getting the one hit himself

917
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 3: down to three point fifty. So it is. It's close.

918
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's surprisingly close. I kind of anticipated

919
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: when the Rise was for the four hundred. I was

920
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: saying that he's he's gonna finish in the three forties

921
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: or three fifties. And yeah, now for him to do that,

922
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: he's gonna come out of the slump a little bit,

923
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: and I think he will, as LMF mentioned, with still

924
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: a few off days coming up before this really difficult stretch,

925
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: maybe that does a little bits as a Rise being

926
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: a guy that has all these little bumps and bruises

927
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: that he battles through, so that should help him. I

928
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: think I'm slipping pretty good about a Rise winning that.

929
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: If nothing else, I think it's hard to bet against

930
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman, but I think he's gonna slow down a

931
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: little bit. I feel good about him slowing down and

932
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: about a Rise kind of being close to what he's

933
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: been for the whole season as a whole, and I

934
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: think he holds on. That's the one I feel greatest about.

935
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 3: In terms of so Lair and finishing over five hundred.

936
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: So Lair is your hypothetical catching Sheffield or passing Sheffield.

937
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: So or more?

938
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: I man, I'm gonna still I'm going to lean towards

939
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: the Marlins finishing above five hundred more so than Solaire

940
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: getting to that number, and I think they're both less

941
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: than fifty percent. Also, Hilaire has to do is actually

942
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: just copy his August into September and he'll reach that number.

943
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: It's easier said than done with them, especially if they

944
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: remain in this situation where he's one of the few

945
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: hot hitters on the team. They could pitch around him

946
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: a little bit more than they've done so far. I

947
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: mean for the moment, it's still it's a rise. Well,

948
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: actually today it was Josh Bell batting behind him. Nope,

949
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: it was actually take that back, it was a rise today. Nope,

950
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the wrong box for ye. Today was

951
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: Bell behind him. So if they continue having Bell right

952
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: behind so Lair, I guess that helps his case and

953
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: you could say that maybe that is a factor and

954
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: why he had such a good August on those days

955
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: of having that protection behind him. I think the batting

956
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: order is going to have a role in exactly how

957
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: much celerit hits and how much teams feel they have

958
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: to pitch to him. A factor in that thing how

959
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: many lefties he faces, too, because his production against lefties

960
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 3: has been a lot better than against righty's this year,

961
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: and that's where a disproportionate amount of his home runs

962
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: come in. So I think I think it's less than

963
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: fifty percent, but a decent possibility. I'll say the same

964
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: thing about the Marlins team. I think they're going to

965
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: kind of flirt with winning half of their games the

966
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: rest of the year and slow the slide a little bit.

967
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: They're going to be it's almost a coin flip as

968
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: to whether or not they reach five hundred. It's clearly

969
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: it's less than a coin flip at this point in

970
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: terms of making the playoffs, But in terms of five hundred,

971
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: I think that is still plausible, just not as plausible

972
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: as a Rise winning the batting title.

973
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it.

974
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 7: Well what more I guess Yeah, go gotcha guys on

975
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 7: a slow day for so now that we're apparently turning

976
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 7: the page after this morning, do you think it'll be

977
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: kind of Scott until he yah, unless he loses it

978
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 7: like Skipp will stick with another step guy, or do

979
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 7: you think he'll just really alter.

980
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Scott and Narnie the rest of the.

981
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: Wife it'll be mostly Scott. I think overwhelmingly Scott all

982
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 3: less on days when he's not available to pitch. Even

983
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 3: in between the two they are, there are some similarities

984
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: between them other than Scott has done this job more

985
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: often dating back to last year, so I think it's

986
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 3: predominantly Scott. I would agree that Nardi is probably next

987
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: in line. It's good to see a j. Puck kind

988
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: of straightening himself out, but still not looking quite as

989
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: trustworthy as he was early in the year, so I

990
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna vulter any saves, but yeah, so

991
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: so he'll be mostly Scott as the closer at this

992
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: point for just a really unfortunate turn of events. We'll

993
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: see how Robertson now. Robertson has plenty of experience and

994
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 3: plenty of positive success as a setup guy before, Like,

995
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: he's not a guy where his entire self worth is

996
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: tied up into being a closer. There are some players

997
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: like that that once you remove them from being a closer,

998
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: you kind of lose their trust altogether and lose their

999
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: effectiveness too, because it just gets it's such a big

1000
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: part of their identity. But Robertson isn't quite in that category.

1001
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: So I am still I still think Robertson's going to

1002
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: be a kind of valuable piece of the bullpen the

1003
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: rest of the year. But it does seem like he's

1004
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: not going to get any closer shots moving forward unless

1005
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: something really unusual happens that presses him into duty. So yeah,

1006
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: I'm hopefully going to a less intense role and simply

1007
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: having time to kind of sort out whatever is going

1008
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: wrong with him helps, But yeah, mostly Tanner Scott moving far.

1009
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: Any other questions, No thanks, I'll shut up and listen

1010
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 6: to the Mexican.

1011
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: Figure out next might be her last, so we'll take

1012
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: the last calls on any requests we'll bring into to

1013
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: possibly wrap this out here. Maybe maybe tonight I'll get

1014
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: some of the voice to do, uh, just answer some

1015
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: questions per bit.

1016
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we do tomorrow on the optic.

1017
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but well, the reason why we do

1018
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: this because I want to hear what you guys have

1019
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: to say. But we'll have surely take us home here.

1020
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: What are your questions?

1021
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: Christ of all, good evening to everyone, w all guys.

1022
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 8: I appreciate the work you continue to do for this community. Today,

1023
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 8: I think with thirty eight games so left first, so

1024
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 8: it's time to call things out here. I think the

1025
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 8: walks of Brett Brown. I know he wants the guys

1026
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 8: that swing in the zone, but I've seen too many

1027
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 8: adoes by Jazz number one and Lewis and Rias. They

1028
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 8: have to be telling him that they're pitching inside and

1029
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 8: most of the pitches he's swinging out at three one

1030
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 8: would have been a walk. I've seen it in several

1031
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 8: at bots, so Jazz and Lewis they're not taking walks.

1032
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 8: And it's because I don't know when they look at

1033
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 8: the Skip and the Duggar and I don't know what

1034
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 8: greenlight he's giving them. But even yesterday we I think

1035
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 8: Jazz gold to give us a better at bat with

1036
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 8: three nothing, and he looked at Skip. I don't know

1037
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 8: what Skip told him, But I don't want to put

1038
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 8: this all on Skip because our pitching starters haven't really

1039
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 8: been there and moving on to buy our box. Yes,

1040
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 8: I just mentioned that speed. If Kim is looking at

1041
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 8: this with forty inns left, I think she has to

1042
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 8: take her final lunch shot by bringing up Edwards. I

1043
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 8: think we need speed at the top. We need to

1044
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 8: be I think when we've come back in games is

1045
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 8: because of tappers to second base where we cause disruption

1046
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 8: with speed, and I just think that you're asking Breg

1047
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 8: Brown is asking to hit these pitches that are in

1048
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 8: the zone, and I just think teams are I think

1049
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 8: as teams come into us playing us in the series,

1050
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 8: they know that, and so maybe speed actually breaks that

1051
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 8: down when you put the ball and play, and that

1052
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 8: causes tam speed after because I've seen the shift even

1053
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 8: work on the rise when he hits the ball to

1054
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 8: right field. He's hitting it right to the first basement now,

1055
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 8: so thinking walks better at bats.

1056
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a Bret Brown.

1057
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 8: Thing, but you're gonna have to blame Skip for it.

1058
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 8: I love what I'm saying from Sandy and R. I

1059
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 8: think Sandy could use more of the curve. I see

1060
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 8: him using a little more of the curve, but he

1061
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 8: was even more Sandy, And yeah, that's that's my outlook

1062
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 8: on it.

1063
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: Watched the game today, good move.

1064
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 8: I'm actually happy that I was happy that Robertson was

1065
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: blown up because I think we need to make this

1066
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 8: decision now and put him either in the sixth inning

1067
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 8: and let kind of start actually doing what he's proven

1068
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 8: up to this time that he can do, just be

1069
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 8: out closer. So thank goodness for him blowing us up

1070
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 8: so we can put him.

1071
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: In a better role for our team. But thank you, guys.

1072
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: Love it.

1073
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: There is something to be said on that last point

1074
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: about Robertson getting blown up, where in a lot of

1075
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: these blown saves, it is especially when somebody has a

1076
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: really long track record and they were extremely effective even

1077
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: earlier this year, it's hard you can be stubborn in

1078
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: terms of leaving them in their role and not want

1079
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: to admit that somebody isn't exactly built out to do

1080
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: the job that you brought them in to do. But

1081
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: when he has a game like he had where it

1082
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: starts off with a very hard hit triple that Jazz

1083
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: almost saved him, I mean, the game could have gone

1084
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: in a very different direction. They could have won the game.

1085
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: And if Jazz makes that catch, but it was such

1086
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: a difficult play and it was the fault of Robertson

1087
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: for even putting that in the situation, and even though

1088
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: they give up the winning run on the pass ball

1089
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: by Stallings between that first hit the hit by pitch

1090
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: in the middle, like it was black and white in

1091
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: terms of like Robertson just not getting the job done

1092
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: the way that you would expect him to against the

1093
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: quality of competition that he was facing in this NAT's team,

1094
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: that he should be able to at the very least,

1095
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, prevent keep the game going instead of allowing

1096
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: multiple runs in that situation. It was the kind of

1097
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 3: performance that just hammer's home that you need to try

1098
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: for something better than this. Considering that he's now had

1099
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: several of these games like this, hard contact, poor control

1100
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: and putting you in a situation where even teams that

1101
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: aren't like super committed to winning right now can still

1102
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: get the best out of you. So it was good

1103
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: to have some clarity on that, even though it was

1104
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 3: obviously disappointing for everybody involved. And he sure if did

1105
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: mention pretty rightfully that a lot of arises issues right

1106
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: now have to do with being extremely aggressive and undisciplined.

1107
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: He's only drawn one walk this entire month of August.

1108
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: August is almost over. Throughout the season, he's been aggressive

1109
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: at swinging at pitches, but there have been times where

1110
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: when he gets into a very favorable count and then

1111
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: he gets a pitch that's out of the zone. There

1112
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: there had been some willingness to take pitches earlier in

1113
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: the year and take occasional walks, and when that part

1114
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: is missing and opponents know that you're not going to

1115
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: be willing to take your walks under any circumstances, that's

1116
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: when it's easier to get to you, no matter how

1117
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: talented you are. So that's been a part of it,

1118
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: and it's been a part of it with Jazz too.

1119
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: The last thing I'll mention with Jazz, I think his

1120
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: center field defense continues to exceed expectations. He's been a

1121
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: very good defensive center fielder this year, and if the

1122
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 3: bar that he said offensively wasn't so high, maybe people

1123
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: would look at his season a little differently. It does

1124
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: feel like they have a center fielder for beyond this

1125
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: year as well, if he's willing to stay in that spot,

1126
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: and depending what other roster decisions that they make. But

1127
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: now the problem is that offensively he's a below average

1128
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: offensive player, and especially when it comes to as a hitter.

1129
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: So this was a tough weekend for Jazz offensively that

1130
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: there were stretches in between his injuries where if you

1131
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: put the stats together in a certain way, it made

1132
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: it look pretty terrific. But then recently it's been another

1133
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 3: really poorly time slump from him. He continues to bat

1134
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: in the top half of the order, even if it's

1135
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: not at league off, He's getting a lot of play toppearances,

1136
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: he's not doing very much with them during the last

1137
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. We've mentioned it before that he was

1138
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: going to be such a crucial piece of this team

1139
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: sustaining and staying afloat in the second half to finally

1140
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: get some decent offense from the center field position that

1141
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: they just hadn't really had when he was out, and unfortunately,

1142
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: like he's just not hitting at the level that he's

1143
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: capable of so far. So yeah, there's I think they

1144
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: tried out the leadoff spot, and I think some of

1145
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: the concerns about that were fair that it really doesn't

1146
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: fit his batted ball profile and his whole mindset as

1147
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 3: a hitter. They shouldn't be batting lead off, but he's

1148
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: still going to hit pretty high up in the order,

1149
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: especially when they're facing right handed pitching. And I just

1150
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what to expect anymore now that we're

1151
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: pretty deep into this year. And you just look back

1152
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: at his overall numbers and they kind of fit his

1153
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: career numbers rather than fitting his twenty to twenty twenty

1154
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: two numbers, And that's a pretty significant step back for

1155
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: this team.

1156
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, And you know, I look at when that sign

1157
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 8: was given to Jazz a three to zero, and I

1158
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 8: think Skip realized at that point, Eli, this guy is

1159
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 8: gonna hit the ball either over the fence or it's

1160
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 8: going to rattle up against the wall. And so he

1161
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 8: even probably knew, like what you were saying it's not

1162
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 8: in Jazz's overall career fit to do that, and I

1163
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 8: think he just changed him back to day. So in

1164
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 8: that instance, I was like, Yeah, if you're telling Jazz

1165
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 8: have the green light with this thrie oo and you

1166
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 8: want him to bang the ball hard like that, he

1167
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 8: shouldn't be in.

1168
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: He shouldn't be in the lead.

1169
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 8: Off and he and Jazz, I'm sure you're gonna be

1170
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 8: probably listening to thease hed he just snatched the ball

1171
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 8: like a venus fly trap. It's not second base where

1172
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 8: you can grad go, you know, gradually, grad gradually grab

1173
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 8: the ball if it was in his glovey life. And

1174
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 8: the third thing, three guys stormed the clubhouse protected their

1175
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 8: bodies obviously, but they Sandy recently, Birdie and I think

1176
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 8: Garret that team meeting, guys, it was supposed to be

1177
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 8: coming out of that team meeting, is I'll hand off

1178
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 8: the ad bat if I can't do it in this

1179
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 8: bad which insinuates a walk, or or if I all

1180
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 8: off until I get walk And it just hasn't been

1181
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 8: that way. What do you guys think about the team

1182
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 8: meeting and then what has happened since? Thank you again, guys.

1183
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of those team meetings. Yeah, it was

1184
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: certainly a different one than the one last year in

1185
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: the first half of last season that has become kind

1186
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: of infamous for the fact that it didn't actually resolve anything.

1187
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: It's it's been an interesting test. This this whole stretch

1188
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: has been interesting test for Skip Schumacher, considering how highly

1189
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: regarded I think everybody held him after that first half

1190
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: of the season, and now the surprising number of messages

1191
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: I receive people questioning whether or not they even like him,

1192
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: whether or not they they're even confident in him next year,

1193
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 3: which is the only second remaining guaranteed year of his deal,

1194
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: and how he's tried to overcome what is kind of

1195
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: very unusual struggles for him even as a player. He

1196
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: was a guy that wasn't on a ton of teams

1197
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: that had these kind of prolonged struggles in the middle

1198
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: of a regular season. And how he's tried to address that. Yeah,

1199
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: I think they have. I think you could say that

1200
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: he's been a little bit. He hasn't necessarily gone out

1201
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: of his way to get to create tension with the

1202
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: players or to h I don't know if he's really

1203
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: shown like a huge sense of urgency during the stretch.

1204
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: That's probably something that a lot of us take exception too,

1205
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: is that things are going pretty poorly, especially with a

1206
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: lot of the same players that were having success in

1207
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: the first half, and yet you don't really see that

1208
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: sense of urgency to them slipping from the top wildcard

1209
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: spots now slipping a couple of games out of the

1210
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: final spot from him. But even from the outside, it

1211
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: is it's hard to necessarily say what's the right way

1212
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: to go about fixing this and the right way to

1213
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: get everybody on the same page and in terms of

1214
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 3: doing those little things right, but it is, Yeah, it's

1215
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: not just on him. It probably goes You could extend

1216
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: that to a lot of the coaching staff as well,

1217
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 3: that we give him a lot of credit for coming

1218
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: up with clutch hits early in the year, and now

1219
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: at this stage of the season, they've just gone back

1220
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: to really struggling in key situational areas. It's not only

1221
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: on Jazz, it's I think you could point to the

1222
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: majority of the players on this roster that have come

1223
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: up in important situations and not put together great quality

1224
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: at that it's not made productive outs when it was

1225
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: important for them to do. So, yeah, it's just it's

1226
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: really frustrating.

1227
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1228
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: If yeah, it's it's this is kind of when you

1229
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: have a rookie manager that's in this situation for the

1230
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: first time. He's got to explore what it is the

1231
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: best way to get out of this situation for However,

1232
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: whatever solutions he's trying to come up with and the

1233
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: team is trying to come up with, I think what

1234
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: they're going through now will serve them better next year

1235
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: moving forward. Even though there are a couple prominent players

1236
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: on this roster that could be gone in free agency

1237
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: or via trade end the off season, there's going to

1238
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: be a lot of continuity on this roster too, So

1239
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: it seems that what they've been trying to do hasn't

1240
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: really worked to pull themselves out of this extended slump.

1241
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: That being said, I think it does serve them well

1242
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: moving forward to go through something like this to recognize

1243
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: what was what they were doing in the good times

1244
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: versus the bad times, and yeah, try to apply that

1245
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: moving forward to be more consistent next year, because this inconsistency,

1246
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: this is what really drives people crazy. When you zoom

1247
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: out and you see that the team's over five hundred

1248
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: with barely a month ago. That would have exceeded a

1249
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: lot of expectations coming into this year. But when you

1250
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: see that a team that was doing so many of

1251
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: the little things well early on, all of a sudden

1252
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: is not doing them at the most important times, it

1253
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: kind of drives you crazy. I can imagine.

1254
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: Any other questions shreve.

1255
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 7: No, I'm good.

1256
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 8: I think we're all generally behind Skip. We're behind you Skip.

1257
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 8: You know, Kim has done a fantastic job, I believe

1258
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 8: by locking up a nucleus for the next few years,

1259
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 8: particularly in the fifth year of I think Burger, so.

1260
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm also Burger.

1261
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 8: I think I think we need to get ten to

1262
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 8: fifteen pounds off of you, because there's some place you

1263
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 8: could make a third base if you're just you're wallowing

1264
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 8: over to it and you're just not quick enough.

1265
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest, guys, thank you.

1266
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 9: Can I say something before Trif goes that's all muscles like,

1267
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 9: that's that that's not fat.

1268
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: That's almost like you have.

1269
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 9: To see him and when you see him in person,

1270
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 9: maybe on the screen, he looks like he's fat. Bro,

1271
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 9: All that is all must like when you see him

1272
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 9: maybe a little bit of fat on the side, but dude,

1273
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 9: that's all muscle.

1274
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 10: Like, I'll tell you that's all must like.

1275
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 9: This dude is he built died like he literally throws

1276
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 9: it from side arm because he can't throw the ball

1277
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 9: over his arm because he's just like it's just it's

1278
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 9: just gonna be yeah, man, this dude is built like

1279
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 9: he's built like a like a body builder type build.

1280
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 9: If he kept on putting the work in like that,

1281
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 9: like honestly, like he's not fat like he just he

1282
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 9: wo maybe lose some pounds. Me and I had the

1283
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 9: weight room a little bit. But that's why he can

1284
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 9: hit the ball so hard. It's because when he does

1285
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 9: swing and he gets.

1286
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: Contact with it, all.

1287
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 10: That muscle gets the ball and then to the outfields.

1288
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Romeo's right, Bert Berger is a little shorter, like he's

1289
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: only like I'm pretty short and he's only like a

1290
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: few inches hard on me. If he was like hilariic

1291
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: got bells height, he would looked like what I'll.

1292
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: Agree with there.

1293
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: Romeo's here, He's gonna wrap up the show now be

1294
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: a super will cut it off there?

1295
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: So what do we got tonight?

1296
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 9: Robyoa, I just want to thank God himself for letting

1297
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 9: me be able to breathe the same air as Brian

1298
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 9: Owing and Andrew Nordi.

1299
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, he those two. As much as people hate, not

1300
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 10: hate on and on Oeing, but I know that he

1301
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 10: isn't going to be.

1302
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 9: A high leverage guy. I know he isn't gonna be

1303
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 9: this all time starter.

1304
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 10: But man, that guy had that guy has had that

1305
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 10: dog in him.

1306
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 9: And if Scott is saky in the ninth I'm giving

1307
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 9: Andrew Nordi the ninth ending. Man.

1308
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 10: That guy has been nothing but nails since he figured.

1309
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 9: Out what mechanical issue he had from twenty twenty two.

1310
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 10: Like that guy is actually like it.

1311
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: Like when he comes out and that walking.

1312
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 9: Song starts playing, it puts a smile on my face

1313
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 9: when I see Andrew Nordi walk out like like that.

1314
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 9: That that that does like is he's so good man.

1315
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 9: It's just just I know it's been a bad way.

1316
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 9: But as much as you can like critique the bad,

1317
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 9: you also got to look at the good. And then

1318
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 9: that was those two those Brian Hueing pitch really.

1319
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 10: Good today was really one of the bigger reasons that.

1320
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: We won today. I know he gave up that double.

1321
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 10: And then some other stuff happened that he gave up

1322
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 10: one run. But I want to let go back and

1323
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 10: look at some of his last outings besides the Rays outing,

1324
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 10: and what his era would be, because I know that

1325
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 10: he is playing and he also comes.

1326
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: Out that bullpen.

1327
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 9: So if he gives up one run and gets three outs,

1328
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 9: that are is gonna inflate. But when he's a starter,

1329
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 9: I wonder, I want, I need to go look at

1330
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 9: what his era would end up being because that guy,

1331
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 9: that guy is he's good. Like there's nothing else that

1332
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 9: you could put out for for Brian Hoeing. He's a

1333
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 9: good pitcher and I'm glad that and I hope he

1334
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 9: stays because he could be a good spot starter, long

1335
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 9: relief type of guy for us for a good a

1336
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 9: good little while. That's that's what I'm saying from him.

1337
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1338
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if people remember this, but Hoeing was

1339
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: essentially DFA at the end of last season. When it's

1340
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: usually during the season, but when it's in the middle

1341
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: of the off season, he was simply outrighted off the

1342
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: roster and nobody claims him he went unclaims is the

1343
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: easiest way to say it. At the end of last season.

1344
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: That's how low his stock was, kind of understandably because

1345
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: of how much he struggled in the big leagues and

1346
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 3: how limited prospect pedigree he had, And that's definitely not

1347
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: going to be the case this time. He has value

1348
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: on the forty man roster for somebody that still has

1349
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: minor league options beyond the season, for somebody that has

1350
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: the versatility to handle a few different roles where he

1351
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: can dial it up a little bit more if he

1352
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 3: knows he's only going to pitch one inning, where he's

1353
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: comfortable inheriting runners when he needs to, and he can

1354
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: go comfortably two times through an order. He's one of

1355
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: those many players in limbo where if you push him

1356
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: a third time through the order, it's probably gonna end poorly.

1357
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 3: What he did today that was kind of the perfect

1358
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: way to utilize him, where he had one kind of

1359
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: shaky inning and even then he limited the damage to

1360
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: just a single run and then from there on a

1361
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: match this season high with strikeouts and just generally got

1362
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: a lot of ground balls. So he has Yeah, he's

1363
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: been a nice piece to have in this organization. Oh

1364
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: you know what I forget that we haven't mentioned in

1365
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: this show that George Soriano is on paternity leave, so

1366
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: congratulations to him on the birth of his child. I'll

1367
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: be curious to see. I imagine he'll be back on Tuesday.

1368
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 3: Usually with paternity leave, it's only a few days, and

1369
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: to this point it's been three days with him, so

1370
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: I'll be curious to see if he's back. That just

1371
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: goes back to the September call up conversation where people

1372
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: want all these new guys to come up, but they

1373
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 3: have They're going to carry extra pittures because they have

1374
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: more than thirteen interesting guys. So just one thing to

1375
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: keep in mind. One guy that was not part of

1376
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: this weekend was George Soriano for very good personal reasons.

1377
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: But he'll be back on the roster very soon. And he,

1378
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: even more so than Hoeing, is that type of guy

1379
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 3: that's improved his stock this year, that's shown his versatility.

1380
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: They'll let the make room for him on this roster

1381
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: as well. Going down the stretch.

1382
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: You don't think there's DFA to men, that's.

1383
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: An that's an option. Yeah, well they don't have the DFAM.

1384
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 3: They could actually option nance. He still has one option

1385
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that that

1386
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: is the most likely corresponding move. Yeah, assuming that Soriano

1387
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: is back on Tuesday. The fact that they haven't even

1388
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: used nance, including today they had a bullpen game and

1389
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 3: their most well rested reliever wasn't used, I think that

1390
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: was pretty telling. So that would be my production. Yeah,

1391
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 3: that nance goes down as soon as Soriano is back,

1392
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: likely on Tuesday.

1393
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 10: So are we we're gonna end up predicting that it

1394
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 10: will just be one?

1395
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 9: It would be one and one for both of the

1396
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 9: positions for the September callups, one.

1397
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: Picture and one one colfield player.

1398
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 9: If they do like this team is, they get weird

1399
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 9: with it a little bit if they were going to

1400
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 9: go with, let's say, two pictures or two position players,

1401
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 9: who would you guys believe those two position players or

1402
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 9: two pictures would be just I think Kim like seven

1403
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 9: times today of it a little fun fact.

1404
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 10: She was walking around with some.

1405
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: Mention it at the top of the show.

1406
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: But I we really don't see a world where there's

1407
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna be two position players just because they really need

1408
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: someone to fill out. I think I believe would be

1409
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be one on one with Edwards and

1410
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: whatever picture they decide, whether it be like a mid

1411
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: tier leap or the just Bhilson innings or another starter

1412
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: maybe go six man or something like that. But I

1413
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: wouldn't roll out two pictures being called up. I mean,

1414
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't rule it out.

1415
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: I think it one on one is probably gonna be

1416
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: standard for most games. It would be Edwards and someone

1417
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: else by.

1418
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: Happy guess yeah, And it's really not calling up a picture,

1419
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: it's just bring a picture back. It's Soriano from paternity leave,

1420
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: and then it's gonna be Quato from the il. We

1421
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: think that he's going to be back when he's eligible

1422
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: next weekend. So if that is not the case, then

1423
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: maybe there's interesting possibilities if if Quato has some sort

1424
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: of setback that makes him But it's it wasn't even

1425
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: an injury with him, it was a viral situation where

1426
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: it was an illness rather than an injury. So with

1427
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: him going back, it's just that there's a lot of

1428
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: pictures to use. We could take this opportunity just to

1429
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 3: shout out Troy Johnson, who had another home run today.

1430
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: This is twenty fourth of the year. He has one

1431
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: hundred and eleven one hundred and nine RBIs in one

1432
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: hundred and eleven games this year in the Miners. If

1433
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: he played at any other position other than first base,

1434
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: they would have room for him. But being in first

1435
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: base only guy, that's that's the reality with him where

1436
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna at the unless there is a surprising injury

1437
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: at the very end, or unless they do something very

1438
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 3: bold with Juli Gurriel in sit him down or get

1439
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 3: rid of him, then I think Troy just has to

1440
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: wait for the offseason to be selected to the forty

1441
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: men roster.

1442
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 9: How Troy defense, I feel like that's the question, is

1443
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 9: that's the thing that's wrong with Belle in the ninth

1444
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 9: inning when they the last three days or the last

1445
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 9: time that they go into the ninth they bring in

1446
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 9: Guriel to pitch, to come in into or like.

1447
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 10: Play that defense role.

1448
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: So I don't I wouldn't put him as a clear

1449
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: upgrade over bell I'll put it that way. It's not

1450
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: it's not the strength of his game because actually he

1451
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 3: used to be an outfielder before he went to the Miners,

1452
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: and so it's not even a totally natural first baseman.

1453
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: They would not call him up as a defensive replacement.

1454
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: They would just call him up on the hitting side

1455
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: if there was any at bats available to them, but

1456
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: there just aren't those that bets available.

1457
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 9: And before before we go, I'll leave it with this,

1458
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 9: so we're like thinking that is Edward Savior.

1459
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 10: Edward's coming up on September first?

1460
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 2: Or do you think that they shocked the world?

1461
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 9: Ever and bring it and not because they is not

1462
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 9: coming up?

1463
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, has Dane been good since he went back down?

1464
01:11:58,800 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 10: He had a home run yesterday.

1465
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: He's been He's been decent. He's not as red hot

1466
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 3: as he was before the call, but he's still fine. Yeah,

1467
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: with him, it's just another there's only so many spots

1468
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: that you have to fiddle with here, and considering how

1469
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 3: much he was struggling before he got sent down, I

1470
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 3: think that's it's a long shot. It's a possibility, but

1471
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: it's kind of a long shot for Dane to come back.

1472
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: I like that guy.

1473
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 9: He's a good He's he asked to be the unluckiest

1474
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 9: player in all of baseball.

1475
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 10: Like honestly, like that guy was.

1476
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 9: Getting like ninety plus like of like off the bat

1477
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 9: and every and it was just a glove every time,

1478
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 9: and like it would like at the back end he

1479
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 9: was striking out a little bit, but like, yeah, it

1480
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 9: was just.

1481
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: His girlfriend flashed white.

1482
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Don't know what the relation was in the space for

1483
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: quite a while. Okay, yeah, I believe the personal lives of.

1484
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: The I think it's your wife. Your name is Malory meers.

1485
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 10: Nice nice like some guys as to them as well.

1486
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 10: I know that this happened a while back. But they're

1487
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 10: also having a kid. So hopefully guys have a good time.

1488
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 10: I love you guys.

1489
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 9: Become a super subscriber for three dollars. Yeah, so it

1490
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 9: is you get you get to join them fantasy leagues.

1491
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 10: I'm getting smack.

1492
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, we'll go out on that for

1493
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: Shive for listening and make sure that keep up with

1494
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: all content.

1495
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: I think Sharif wanted to bring up one final thing

1496
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 3: at the end here before we go ahead.

1497
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: Let him go ahead.

1498
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I forgot about this, guys, But what are your

1499
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 8: thoughts on four Test calling the games?

1500
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: The change from him with Uri? Uh?

1501
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 8: Seeing the change obviously the last three times Fallings were

1502
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 8: using with Yuri. I think four Test isn't helping himself

1503
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 8: by the way he calls Garrett late in games. The

1504
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 8: third time round in batters. What's your thoughts on that?

1505
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 8: I apologize, but I thought that was important.

1506
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of it is about Fortes

1507
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: as much as it is the matchups they were facing.

1508
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: I was excited to have him face the Dodgers because

1509
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: he was getting into this pattern where Ury was so

1510
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 3: dependent on just two pitches, his fastball and his slider,

1511
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: and when he faced more left handed batters, that makes

1512
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: him kind of utilize the full depth of his arsenal.

1513
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 3: And because he was able to do that against the Dodgers,

1514
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: even being at the platoon advantage, He's been amazing against

1515
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: lefties this year because his curve ball is unhittable and

1516
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 3: his change up, even though he still doesn't use it

1517
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 3: as much as I'd like is, is also an extremely

1518
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 3: good pitch when it's on. He could in both of

1519
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: those outings against the Dodgers a week ago and then

1520
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 3: just last night against the Nationals. The Nationals are the

1521
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 3: same way where that lineup was pretty heavy on left

1522
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: handed hitters, and he was incredible against them in those situations.

1523
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it was those matchups and

1524
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: how they dictated what Fortes would call, just based on

1525
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: who the opposing hitters were. So I'll keep it brief

1526
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: and say that I think it had more to do

1527
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 3: with matchups than it had to do with the differences

1528
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: in the catchers. Yeah. The weird complication is that Stallings

1529
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: has now been the hotter hitter than Fortes has been recently.

1530
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 3: And actually we should clarify that it was Stallings that

1531
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: was catching yesterday instead of Fortes. So I wanted to

1532
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 3: clarify that it actually was Stallings yesterday who was calling

1533
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: the pitches.

1534
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

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01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I see where Fortes maybe saying let's milk

1536
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 8: this just in general, and I see Stallings saying, you

1537
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 8: also have this third in this fourth pitch that's tried ease,

1538
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 8: and if you don't have them, you'll try to have

1539
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 8: three that you could work with. And I just see

1540
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 8: stalled the fourtes telling Yard let's just work with with

1541
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 8: hot And I just saw the Washington Nationals timing that, uh,

1542
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 8: that curve, that nice curve that he has, and if

1543
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 8: they just timed it up in the.

1544
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Sixth inning, all right, I guess we can head out

1545
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: on that. For those who are still left, make sure

1546
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: you turn in the tune into.

1547
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: All content this week.

1548
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: Maybe later in the week we'll do another fan question things.

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: So we got to a few people, but thank you

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Speaker 1: all for tuning in and enjoy the rest of your night.