WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Rush Hour 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.920 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:14.600 Cowboys, Let's go. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.239 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:16.759 Yes? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.640 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.440 Absolutely? 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.400 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:22.079 Yeah? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:23.799 And so much for that. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.200 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:34.680 Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:35.880 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.920 It is Thursday August fifteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.640 Episode seventeen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.000 Lifemoks in Art, California, presented by LGLG is the world's 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.400 number one OLED TV brand for eleven years in counting 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.160 See why at LG dot com Forward slash o Leedevil. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.520 We've got a lot to get into today. Cowboys making moves. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.720 We'll get into some transactions that have happened over the 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.480 last twenty four hours. We'll talk about an injury from 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:05.720 yesterday's practice that. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.319 Could factor into some. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.000 Of the things that Cowboys are doing, particularly on the 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.880 offensive line. And we'll also have some practice observations. Yesterday, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.640 the Cowboys have another joint practice with the LA Rams. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.720 Interesting practice. I'm sure you guys will have some great 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.360 notes on some players that played well and maybe some 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.000 moments that weren't so great. We'll talk about that later 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.000 in the show. We'll start first with transactions. Cowboys are 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.360 in the process. I'm not sure what the final is 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.000 on all this, but in the process of trading for 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.760 defensive tackle Jordan Phillips and also signing defensive end Carl Lawson. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.800 What do we know about these two transactions. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.200 Yeah, I'll start with the trade for Jordan Phillips to Cowboys. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.760 They send a twenty twenty six seventh round picks of 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.880 the New York Giants in exchange for Jordan Phillips and 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.840 a sixth round pick in twenty twenty six. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.680 So interesting value there for the Cowboys to be able 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:55.400 to make this trade. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.920 They can experience a guy that's been in the league 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.760 now ten years. He has experience playing at that one 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.000 tech position. You know, if you're looking for a player 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.920 who can come in and be right there in the 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.200 middle of that defensive line, bring experience, bring a. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.800 Little bit of pass rush, this is your guy. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.600 But I think also whenever I was looking at the 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.240 tape and kind of looking back on the player that 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.280 Jordan Phillips is six foot six three and forty one pounds. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.840 Yes he is wide, Yes he does have a big frame. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.280 But I think this is more of a pass rush 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.320 guy than he is a run stopping guy. Just from 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.520 my evaluation, I think when it comes to run defense, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.320 you still need Mazzie Smith to be. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.560 Able to take that next step forward. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.520 This is not a trade where it's like, all right, 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.400 Mazzi didn't do it, so here's here's a guy that's 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:33.240 gonna play in front of him. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.720 I don't think that's necessarily the case. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.600 I think this is gonna be a situation where both 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.080 of these guys rotate in just based on, you know, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.080 which situation works for them better. So situational player that 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.600 I think could really help them in the pass rush department. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.640 And you look at Carl real quick before you go, 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.920 before you go, begun there, Brian, do you agree on 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.400 the on the pass rush versus run stopper because he 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:52.200 is a massive man. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, all right, trying to 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.359 get out No, no, man, you're getting after it there. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.960 I appreciate. No, I do agree with what he was 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.639 talking about with the pass rush stuff. I think it's 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.240 interesting that if you go back and say study the 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.320 Philadelphia game that Buffalo played last year. The last thirty 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.720 seconds of the game. You know, you think you would 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.919 want all fast bodies on the field. They had him 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.280 trying to kill the game that he was a pass 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.960 rush guy. So I think Nick's got him in that regard. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.560 I think the three hundred and forty pounds makes him 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.280 hard to move at times. I think there was some 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.360 double teams and he was slipping some blocks and stuff. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.720 I know, I was watching the Kansas City game. They've 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.560 got a little bit of that. Kansas City's got a 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.520 good offensive line where they were all trying to kind 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.920 of move him, scoop him, reach him, and he was 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.880 kind of fighting his way through. I think he's got 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.040 better range than what we saw with Hankins, and I 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.800 think he's a better pass rusher than what you saw 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.760 with Hankins. But yeah, big body guy. And I you 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.840 know what, I if you just watched and I tweeted 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.040 this out, if you just watched the Dallas game from 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.360 last year of him playing against the Cowboys, you would 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.400 make the trade just right off that, like, okay, ye 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.760 give me this guy right here. If you look at 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.160 his ability, they use him in twists which is to 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.960 Knick's point, they play games with him. That's a big 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.400 man that's moving around pretty well there. So to identify 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.960 somebody like that the Giants, obviously, I need to get 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.080 with my Giants guys and kind of figure out what 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:15.680 was going on. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.320 It sounds like there was some. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.279 Young guys there that they kind of wanted to move 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.720 with and try and be with. And so, yeah, you 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.719 take an opportunity. You watch a guy that played against 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.720 you pretty well last year, you watch him against some 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.240 of the division opponents, and you're thinking like, wow, he 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.840 did a nice job against the Eagles, he handled Kelsey 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.320 pretty well. Oh look what he did against the Commanders. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.680 Those are the types of things I think that when 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.320 they were looking at this particular player and it became 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.560 the opportunity for him to make that trade or they 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.799 make that trade, it was one that was pretty easy 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:45.159 for him. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.320 Well, something that I've noticed, like even last year, towards 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.479 the second half of the season, people would come in 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.839 or be like, oh, well the line is not aggressive enough, 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.840 they're not getting after the quarterback. Well, this guy is 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.960 something that I like that could potentially be really good 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.280 to adding to that group. Is he's nasty like, he 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.640 will get after it. He's aggressive, he's not gonna take 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.680 crap from anybody. He's gonna and that type of energy 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.760 you do want, especially at that position defensive tackle, and 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.560 hopefully it's something that definitely helps stop the run defense 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:19.960 as well. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.120 And I will add, if you're an opposing quarterback, this 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.680 is not a guy you want to see him third down, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.320 whether it's a third and short situation. Yeah, because he 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.240 can get his hands up and he'll bat balls down. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.960 He had a career high and pass his defense last year. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.599 So that's six foot six frame. It extends even further 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.520 with his his wingspan. He's got the length. He's a 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.120 disruptor against the past. But again, I want to kind 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.320 of set the expectation in the sense that if you're 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.480 looking for the big run stopper, okay. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.520 He's gonna play on every down. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.799 I don't think this is necessarily the guy, but without 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.720 a doubt, without a doubt, this guy does help in 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:51.479 the past rush apart. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.240 Okay, So I'm glad I on a limb here because 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.000 I'm hearing all these great things about pass rush, nimble, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.640 move around, all this stuff. The big elephants room in 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.080 the room is why you still need somebody that can 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.120 stop the run. You still need a big body in 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:06.560 the middle. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:07.520 Can he not do that? 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.000 I this is where I disagree with Nick on this particular. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.200 I think that he can play the run. I mean, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.560 I totally get the thought about wanting Mazie to be better. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.320 I think this guy when you look at him, when 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.080 you watch him play, and as much as the Cowboys 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.799 will play with two with linebackers in the A gaps 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.039 and then also play with the wide defensive tackles, and 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.160 his ability to get up the field and the ability 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.560 to attack the edges and stuff. I mean there were 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.320 times against the Cowboys where he actually played as an 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.760 edge and they use him in the game, and you 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:41.560 know he was able. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.040 To chase down. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.160 He got hurt on a play in the game against 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.760 the Cowboys where he was chasing Dak Prescott trying to 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.359 run the ball. So to me, I will disagree with 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.520 Nick on the fact is I think he's a better 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:53.960 run defender than he's given. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.400 Him credit for. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.520 Gotcham Yeah, And I think it's more so just more 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.799 so expectation because when you see this the three hundred 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.200 and four forty one pound frame, I think. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.360 Yeah, but you just think of a big trash can 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.880 full of dirt. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's no 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.560 this guy and I and I do. I mean, he's 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.720 got him right as a pass rush stuff. I mean 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.720 there's there there are situations like you say, you watched 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.200 them against Philadelphia and they're trying to run the ball 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.560 and Jason Kelcey is having problems blocking him, you know, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.560 I mean they can't they You know, he gets in 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.400 a fight with the with the guard there at Philadelphia 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.840 as well. I mean he he just stuffs the guys. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.520 Guy gets up all pissed and and now there's a 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.280 scuffle there was on a run play. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:31.680 You know. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.680 I think that to me when you were looking for 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.720 something better than Hankins, because that's kind of where the 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.920 benchmark for everybody is, like, oh, the big guy. I 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.680 think this guy's got better pass rush ability, But I 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.640 do feel like he can't help you in. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.480 Some of the run defense stuff that you're gonna ask 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:47.840 him to do. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.440 Now you got him excited if you tell me you 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.040 get me Hankins with more pass rush, Now I'm excited. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:52.360 Yeah. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.520 The pass rush stuff is really for a man that 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.640 big is impressive. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.240 It really and I thought you were gonna pull out at. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.760 Chris Jones, like obviously Chris Jones, But yeah, that's what 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.600 a bigger guy than this guy. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 This guy has struggled. He's been with some teas, he 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.360 struggled with his health at times. It's been you know, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.840 he had a rotator cuff problem, he had a hamstring problem, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.920 and he hurt his wrist in the Dallas game. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.040 You know, but if you watch the games, like I say. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.320 I was trying to put him up against these offensive lines, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.680 maybe one offensive line that he might play during the 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.240 year and deal with Philadelphia bunch and all that. I 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.080 kind of felt like that was something that to me, like, Okay, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.920 Kansas City. Nick mentioned his ability to get up and 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.000 not passes away. Mahomes is throwing the ball sideways to 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.040 kind of get it around him. A couple of times 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:36.559 he gets out of the edge, all of a sudden, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.959 Mahomes has to kind of throw its side ar him 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.840 to trying to get it to somebody else. So, yeah, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.360 I think this guy, if you're going to make a 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.120 trade for a guy, this guy makes. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:47.520 A lot of sense. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.160 They've been kind of going around looking at Carl Lawson 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.440 now for a couple of weeks here. He was one 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.760 of the guys they brought in for those tryouts. I 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.120 guess was too. All my days are kind of running 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.000 together now two weeks ago, I don't know, But now 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.720 Cowboys look like they're going to be signing him. Tell 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.480 me what's going on with that. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:04.840 Yeah. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.120 So Carl Lawson, while he has dealt with some injuries 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.679 in the past, when he is healthy, he is productive 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.280 and he's twitchy. He's long, and that's what I love 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.240 the most about Carl Lawson. You see the length and 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.200 he's able to use that in his pass rush skills 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.040 that his chopp ability is incredible. His long arms, I 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.040 mean they get around and he's also able to run 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.320 through guys. He's got some power too, at six foot two, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.600 two hundred and sixty five pounds, I mean he can 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.360 he can blow through you as well. So he's a 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.360 guy who has a large toolbag of pass rush skills 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.960 coming off of that edge. And I think it's interesting 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.280 now because you look at what you lost in Dante 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.160 Fowler and dorn Armstrong and you you slide in Karl 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.200 Lawson and al Kadeen Muhammad. I don't think it's necessary. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.040 I think it's kind of an Apples and orangees comparison 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.320 just based on you know, stylistic preferences and things of 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:48.720 that nature and different defenses. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.280 But I think you've kind of matched. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.760 Where you where you lost as far as experience goes, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.200 as far as ability goes. And Karl Lawson's a big 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.160 speaking point to that. Again, really love the lengths long 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.160 as he can stay healthy. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.720 This is a really welcome addition to this pass rush unit. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.680 Yeah, the thing with Carl Lawson and you have and 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.440 that's a very good skind of report about him, but 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.320 the things he could do the linked is really going 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.520 to be important. The veteran, the savvy and all that. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.280 Please don't rush down the middle. Please use your quickness, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.800 Please use your ability to fight, you know, with your hands. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.920 Feel free to break down blockers like you've done in 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:22.440 the past. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.120 You know, they're hunting ends. We were all kind of 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.359 talking about. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.360 What positions and defensive end all of a sudden became 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.520 kind of a sneaky position. We're you know, you're thinking 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.400 defensive tackles, running backs. All of a sudden, it's like 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.520 they're hunting defensive ends out here, you know, and they're 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.679 trying to kind of figure out the edges. They're moving 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.240 Foko to the outside, they're moving Golst into the other side. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.280 They're trying to figure out this defensive end rotation. Carl 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.520 Lawson probably initially money probably not right for him, and 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.160 then all of a sudden it's like, well, WHOA, I'm 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.400 not going to get a job. I'm not going to 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.040 have a job. Maybe they circle back and then now 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.520 the price made it a little bit better sense for 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.320 both parties. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.160 Yeah, both these signings, I think, or the trade and 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.200 the signing, I think, in my opinion, what it looks 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.760 like right now is that the Cowboys have improved. They're 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.520 trying a defensive line, and that's something to say in 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.760 this time of the you to be able to find 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.400 guys that actually can help you when you're talking about 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.080 guys that in one instance was on the street, another 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.760 guy that was on another roster. That's also what I'm 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.520 looking at with the running back position. Over the next 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.440 couple of weeks, will there'll be opportunities maybe for the 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.840 Cowboys upgrade their running back position in the same way 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.280 where maybe as teams start cutting players, they find a 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.719 team that's a little running back heavy, find a good, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.560 talented running back that just has to be cut for 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.959 number purpose, numbers purpose. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.920 Yeah, I want to give I'm sorry, you got anything 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.400 on this you want to tosh up. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:44.040 With, go ahead. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.280 I mean, I'm sure we're about to soon start talking 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.320 about the practice because that. Yeah, that's something I showed 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.240 a lot in the running back and the running game. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.400 Okay, if I could, if I could circle back about 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.320 the running back stuff. I do appreciate the fact that 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.600 this front office is just not sitting on their hands. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.400 I know, I know people are giving them a lot 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.240 of crap for things, but they're looking at their roster. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.160 We felt like that two weeks in they were going 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.840 to start to evaluate things. You know, hey, we're not 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.360 good enough at defensive tackle. We're not good enough. Yeah 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.960 we lost Sam Williams. Not good enough here. We got 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.440 to keep throwing deep, throwing bodies at it, and see, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.840 we got to move guys around. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:19.960 That's what you got to do out here. Though. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.080 You can't sit there and sit on your hands. Yeah 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.120 you could talk about the contract stuff, that's a whole 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.680 nother thing. But team building right now, as we speak, 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.240 them going out and identifying we're not good enough at 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.000 defensive tackle. We're not good enough at the edge, and 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.720 we got to get better in those two spots. And 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.640 to your point, yeah, they've got the draft capital to 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.880 kind of move around. They've got teams they can look at. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.480 The Dolphins are a team that's got a lot of 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.200 running backs. You can make a call to Chris Greer 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.600 down there. Chris Gurrill trade all day with he loves 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.280 trading down there. So yeah, I think I think there's 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.240 still this is not this is not over. They're gonna 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.719 keep looking at this roster and kind of figure out 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.960 some more things about it really quick. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.719 I think this is pretty interesting too, just looking at the. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.600 Defense side of the ball and how many bodies that 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.360 they've added there over the course of the last couple 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.760 of weeks. It's I wonder how much influence Mike Zimmer 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.319 has around here, because you look at a lot of 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.560 these additions on both sides of the ball, they either 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:11.560 have experience with Mike. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.200 Zimmer or Paul gun Through. A lot of these guys. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.160 I mean, they sign an offensive tackle yesterday, we'll get 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.760 into that that has experienced with Mike Zimmer. So there's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.719 there's a lot of different elements to Mike Zimmer being 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.079 involved in a few of these personnel decisions, and I 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.040 think it's I think it speaks a lot towards the 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.040 trust and the confidence that this front office has in Zimmer. Yes, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.720 he's on a one year deal, but I think there's 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.160 a lot more confidence than just that. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:31.800 That speaks to it. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.920 He could be a pain in the ass, Yeah, can 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.080 I dealt with that? Man? Oh, that's also the thing, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:37.000 in a good way. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.520 He's been he was here for many many he will 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.520 be on relationship there and I think there's respect there. Yeah, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.599 And so when you start talking about regards of the 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.480 terms of his deal, I think he's probably still a 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.120 voice that Jerry respects. And so if he has something 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.240 to say about a particular player, whether the player's here 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.840 or a player that there may be a Will acquire, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.440 I'm sure that goes a long way with Jerry. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.680 I appreciate what Will and them are trying to do 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.959 to help him, though. Yeah, you know, you can only 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.000 like I say, these guys, the situation's not good with 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.160 the one year deals, But none of these guys are complaining. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.400 They've all got gigs. You know, they're gonna do the 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.840 best they can. And if the personal department can help 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.160 them add players and they say. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.360 You know, the bad thing would be if they said, hey. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.640 We need an end, we need a tackle, we need, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.760 we need, we need and the front office says, nah, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.640 we're not doing that today. We're gonna do that. You 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.200 know that that in itself, that doesn't build trust among 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:25.520 the group. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.760 I mean, all it takes, aside from his career that 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.080 he's had and what he's shown, all it takes is 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.920 just looking at what he's done in this short amount 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.920 of time here a training camp good and be like, Okay, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.320 what else do you want to tell me? 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