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Speaker 5: It is Thursday August fifteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 5: Episode seventeen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break
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Speaker 5: We've got a lot to get into today. Cowboys making moves.
Speaker 5: We'll get into some transactions that have happened over the
Speaker 5: last twenty four hours. We'll talk about an injury from
Speaker 5: yesterday's practice that.
Speaker 2: Could factor into some.
Speaker 5: Of the things that Cowboys are doing, particularly on the
Speaker 5: offensive line. And we'll also have some practice observations. Yesterday,
Speaker 5: the Cowboys have another joint practice with the LA Rams.
Speaker 5: Interesting practice. I'm sure you guys will have some great
Speaker 5: notes on some players that played well and maybe some
Speaker 5: moments that weren't so great. We'll talk about that later
Speaker 5: in the show. We'll start first with transactions. Cowboys are
Speaker 5: in the process. I'm not sure what the final is
Speaker 5: on all this, but in the process of trading for
Speaker 5: defensive tackle Jordan Phillips and also signing defensive end Carl Lawson.
Speaker 5: What do we know about these two transactions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll start with the trade for Jordan Phillips to Cowboys.
Speaker 4: They send a twenty twenty six seventh round picks of
Speaker 4: the New York Giants in exchange for Jordan Phillips and
Speaker 4: a sixth round pick in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6: So interesting value there for the Cowboys to be able
Speaker 6: to make this trade.
Speaker 4: They can experience a guy that's been in the league
Speaker 4: now ten years. He has experience playing at that one
Speaker 4: tech position. You know, if you're looking for a player
Speaker 4: who can come in and be right there in the
Speaker 4: middle of that defensive line, bring experience, bring a.
Speaker 6: Little bit of pass rush, this is your guy.
Speaker 4: But I think also whenever I was looking at the
Speaker 4: tape and kind of looking back on the player that
Speaker 4: Jordan Phillips is six foot six three and forty one pounds.
Speaker 4: Yes he is wide, Yes he does have a big frame.
Speaker 4: But I think this is more of a pass rush
Speaker 4: guy than he is a run stopping guy. Just from
Speaker 4: my evaluation, I think when it comes to run defense,
Speaker 4: you still need Mazzie Smith to be.
Speaker 6: Able to take that next step forward.
Speaker 4: This is not a trade where it's like, all right,
Speaker 4: Mazzi didn't do it, so here's here's a guy that's
Speaker 4: gonna play in front of him.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's necessarily the case.
Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be a situation where both
Speaker 4: of these guys rotate in just based on, you know,
Speaker 4: which situation works for them better. So situational player that
Speaker 4: I think could really help them in the pass rush department.
Speaker 5: And you look at Carl real quick before you go,
Speaker 5: before you go, begun there, Brian, do you agree on
Speaker 5: the on the pass rush versus run stopper because he
Speaker 5: is a massive man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, all right, trying to
Speaker 7: get out No, no, man, you're getting after it there.
Speaker 7: I appreciate. No, I do agree with what he was
Speaker 7: talking about with the pass rush stuff. I think it's
Speaker 7: interesting that if you go back and say study the
Speaker 7: Philadelphia game that Buffalo played last year. The last thirty
Speaker 7: seconds of the game. You know, you think you would
Speaker 7: want all fast bodies on the field. They had him
Speaker 7: trying to kill the game that he was a pass
Speaker 7: rush guy. So I think Nick's got him in that regard.
Speaker 7: I think the three hundred and forty pounds makes him
Speaker 7: hard to move at times. I think there was some
Speaker 7: double teams and he was slipping some blocks and stuff.
Speaker 7: I know, I was watching the Kansas City game. They've
Speaker 7: got a little bit of that. Kansas City's got a
Speaker 7: good offensive line where they were all trying to kind
Speaker 7: of move him, scoop him, reach him, and he was
Speaker 7: kind of fighting his way through. I think he's got
Speaker 7: better range than what we saw with Hankins, and I
Speaker 7: think he's a better pass rusher than what you saw
Speaker 7: with Hankins. But yeah, big body guy. And I you
Speaker 7: know what, I if you just watched and I tweeted
Speaker 7: this out, if you just watched the Dallas game from
Speaker 7: last year of him playing against the Cowboys, you would
Speaker 7: make the trade just right off that, like, okay, ye
Speaker 7: give me this guy right here. If you look at
Speaker 7: his ability, they use him in twists which is to
Speaker 7: Knick's point, they play games with him. That's a big
Speaker 7: man that's moving around pretty well there. So to identify
Speaker 7: somebody like that the Giants, obviously, I need to get
Speaker 7: with my Giants guys and kind of figure out what
Speaker 7: was going on.
Speaker 3: It sounds like there was some.
Speaker 7: Young guys there that they kind of wanted to move
Speaker 7: with and try and be with. And so, yeah, you
Speaker 7: take an opportunity. You watch a guy that played against
Speaker 7: you pretty well last year, you watch him against some
Speaker 7: of the division opponents, and you're thinking like, wow, he
Speaker 7: did a nice job against the Eagles, he handled Kelsey
Speaker 7: pretty well. Oh look what he did against the Commanders.
Speaker 7: Those are the types of things I think that when
Speaker 7: they were looking at this particular player and it became
Speaker 7: the opportunity for him to make that trade or they
Speaker 7: make that trade, it was one that was pretty easy
Speaker 7: for him.
Speaker 8: Well, something that I've noticed, like even last year, towards
Speaker 8: the second half of the season, people would come in
Speaker 8: or be like, oh, well the line is not aggressive enough,
Speaker 8: they're not getting after the quarterback. Well, this guy is
Speaker 8: something that I like that could potentially be really good
Speaker 8: to adding to that group. Is he's nasty like, he
Speaker 8: will get after it. He's aggressive, he's not gonna take
Speaker 8: crap from anybody. He's gonna and that type of energy
Speaker 8: you do want, especially at that position defensive tackle, and
Speaker 8: hopefully it's something that definitely helps stop the run defense
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 4: And I will add, if you're an opposing quarterback, this
Speaker 4: is not a guy you want to see him third down,
Speaker 4: whether it's a third and short situation. Yeah, because he
Speaker 4: can get his hands up and he'll bat balls down.
Speaker 4: He had a career high and pass his defense last year.
Speaker 4: So that's six foot six frame. It extends even further
Speaker 4: with his his wingspan. He's got the length. He's a
Speaker 4: disruptor against the past. But again, I want to kind
Speaker 4: of set the expectation in the sense that if you're
Speaker 4: looking for the big run stopper, okay.
Speaker 6: He's gonna play on every down.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is necessarily the guy, but without
Speaker 4: a doubt, without a doubt, this guy does help in
Speaker 4: the past rush apart.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm glad I on a limb here because
Speaker 5: I'm hearing all these great things about pass rush, nimble,
Speaker 5: move around, all this stuff. The big elephants room in
Speaker 5: the room is why you still need somebody that can
Speaker 5: stop the run. You still need a big body in
Speaker 5: the middle.
Speaker 2: Can he not do that?
Speaker 7: I this is where I disagree with Nick on this particular.
Speaker 7: I think that he can play the run. I mean,
Speaker 7: I totally get the thought about wanting Mazie to be better.
Speaker 7: I think this guy when you look at him, when
Speaker 7: you watch him play, and as much as the Cowboys
Speaker 7: will play with two with linebackers in the A gaps
Speaker 7: and then also play with the wide defensive tackles, and
Speaker 7: his ability to get up the field and the ability
Speaker 7: to attack the edges and stuff. I mean there were
Speaker 7: times against the Cowboys where he actually played as an
Speaker 7: edge and they use him in the game, and you
Speaker 7: know he was able.
Speaker 3: To chase down.
Speaker 7: He got hurt on a play in the game against
Speaker 7: the Cowboys where he was chasing Dak Prescott trying to
Speaker 7: run the ball. So to me, I will disagree with
Speaker 7: Nick on the fact is I think he's a better
Speaker 7: run defender than he's given.
Speaker 3: Him credit for.
Speaker 4: Gotcham Yeah, And I think it's more so just more
Speaker 4: so expectation because when you see this the three hundred
Speaker 4: and four forty one pound frame, I think.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you just think of a big trash can
Speaker 7: full of dirt. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's no
Speaker 7: this guy and I and I do. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: got him right as a pass rush stuff. I mean
Speaker 7: there's there there are situations like you say, you watched
Speaker 7: them against Philadelphia and they're trying to run the ball
Speaker 7: and Jason Kelcey is having problems blocking him, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean they can't they You know, he gets in
Speaker 7: a fight with the with the guard there at Philadelphia
Speaker 7: as well. I mean he he just stuffs the guys.
Speaker 7: Guy gets up all pissed and and now there's a
Speaker 7: scuffle there was on a run play.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I think that to me when you were looking for
Speaker 7: something better than Hankins, because that's kind of where the
Speaker 7: benchmark for everybody is, like, oh, the big guy. I
Speaker 7: think this guy's got better pass rush ability, But I
Speaker 7: do feel like he can't help you in.
Speaker 3: Some of the run defense stuff that you're gonna ask
Speaker 3: him to do.
Speaker 5: Now you got him excited if you tell me you
Speaker 5: get me Hankins with more pass rush, Now I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The pass rush stuff is really for a man that
Speaker 7: big is impressive.
Speaker 3: It really and I thought you were gonna pull out at.
Speaker 5: Chris Jones, like obviously Chris Jones, But yeah, that's what
Speaker 5: a bigger guy than this guy.
Speaker 7: This guy has struggled. He's been with some teas, he
Speaker 7: struggled with his health at times. It's been you know,
Speaker 7: he had a rotator cuff problem, he had a hamstring problem,
Speaker 7: and he hurt his wrist in the Dallas game.
Speaker 3: You know, but if you watch the games, like I say.
Speaker 7: I was trying to put him up against these offensive lines,
Speaker 7: maybe one offensive line that he might play during the
Speaker 7: year and deal with Philadelphia bunch and all that. I
Speaker 7: kind of felt like that was something that to me, like, Okay,
Speaker 7: Kansas City. Nick mentioned his ability to get up and
Speaker 7: not passes away. Mahomes is throwing the ball sideways to
Speaker 7: kind of get it around him. A couple of times
Speaker 7: he gets out of the edge, all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: Mahomes has to kind of throw its side ar him
Speaker 7: to trying to get it to somebody else. So, yeah,
Speaker 7: I think this guy, if you're going to make a
Speaker 7: trade for a guy, this guy makes.
Speaker 6: A lot of sense.
Speaker 5: They've been kind of going around looking at Carl Lawson
Speaker 5: now for a couple of weeks here. He was one
Speaker 5: of the guys they brought in for those tryouts. I
Speaker 5: guess was too. All my days are kind of running
Speaker 5: together now two weeks ago, I don't know, But now
Speaker 5: Cowboys look like they're going to be signing him. Tell
Speaker 5: me what's going on with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Carl Lawson, while he has dealt with some injuries
Speaker 4: in the past, when he is healthy, he is productive
Speaker 4: and he's twitchy. He's long, and that's what I love
Speaker 4: the most about Carl Lawson. You see the length and
Speaker 4: he's able to use that in his pass rush skills
Speaker 4: that his chopp ability is incredible. His long arms, I
Speaker 4: mean they get around and he's also able to run
Speaker 4: through guys. He's got some power too, at six foot two,
Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty five pounds, I mean he can
Speaker 4: he can blow through you as well. So he's a
Speaker 4: guy who has a large toolbag of pass rush skills
Speaker 4: coming off of that edge. And I think it's interesting
Speaker 4: now because you look at what you lost in Dante
Speaker 4: Fowler and dorn Armstrong and you you slide in Karl
Speaker 4: Lawson and al Kadeen Muhammad. I don't think it's necessary.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of an Apples and orangees comparison
Speaker 4: just based on you know, stylistic preferences and things of
Speaker 4: that nature and different defenses.
Speaker 6: But I think you've kind of matched.
Speaker 4: Where you where you lost as far as experience goes,
Speaker 4: as far as ability goes. And Karl Lawson's a big
Speaker 4: speaking point to that. Again, really love the lengths long
Speaker 4: as he can stay healthy.
Speaker 6: This is a really welcome addition to this pass rush unit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the thing with Carl Lawson and you have and
Speaker 7: that's a very good skind of report about him, but
Speaker 7: the things he could do the linked is really going
Speaker 7: to be important. The veteran, the savvy and all that.
Speaker 7: Please don't rush down the middle. Please use your quickness,
Speaker 7: Please use your ability to fight, you know, with your hands.
Speaker 7: Feel free to break down blockers like you've done in
Speaker 7: the past.
Speaker 3: You know, they're hunting ends. We were all kind of
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 7: What positions and defensive end all of a sudden became
Speaker 7: kind of a sneaky position. We're you know, you're thinking
Speaker 7: defensive tackles, running backs. All of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 7: they're hunting defensive ends out here, you know, and they're
Speaker 7: trying to kind of figure out the edges. They're moving
Speaker 7: Foko to the outside, they're moving Golst into the other side.
Speaker 7: They're trying to figure out this defensive end rotation. Carl
Speaker 7: Lawson probably initially money probably not right for him, and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden it's like, well, WHOA, I'm
Speaker 7: not going to get a job. I'm not going to
Speaker 7: have a job. Maybe they circle back and then now
Speaker 7: the price made it a little bit better sense for
Speaker 7: both parties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, both these signings, I think, or the trade and
Speaker 5: the signing, I think, in my opinion, what it looks
Speaker 5: like right now is that the Cowboys have improved. They're
Speaker 5: trying a defensive line, and that's something to say in
Speaker 5: this time of the you to be able to find
Speaker 5: guys that actually can help you when you're talking about
Speaker 5: guys that in one instance was on the street, another
Speaker 5: guy that was on another roster. That's also what I'm
Speaker 5: looking at with the running back position. Over the next
Speaker 5: couple of weeks, will there'll be opportunities maybe for the
Speaker 5: Cowboys upgrade their running back position in the same way
Speaker 5: where maybe as teams start cutting players, they find a
Speaker 5: team that's a little running back heavy, find a good,
Speaker 5: talented running back that just has to be cut for
Speaker 5: number purpose, numbers purpose.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to give I'm sorry, you got anything
Speaker 7: on this you want to tosh up.
Speaker 2: With, go ahead.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm sure we're about to soon start talking
Speaker 8: about the practice because that. Yeah, that's something I showed
Speaker 8: a lot in the running back and the running game.
Speaker 7: Okay, if I could, if I could circle back about
Speaker 7: the running back stuff. I do appreciate the fact that
Speaker 7: this front office is just not sitting on their hands.
Speaker 7: I know, I know people are giving them a lot
Speaker 7: of crap for things, but they're looking at their roster.
Speaker 7: We felt like that two weeks in they were going
Speaker 7: to start to evaluate things. You know, hey, we're not
Speaker 7: good enough at defensive tackle. We're not good enough. Yeah
Speaker 7: we lost Sam Williams. Not good enough here. We got
Speaker 7: to keep throwing deep, throwing bodies at it, and see,
Speaker 7: we got to move guys around.
Speaker 3: That's what you got to do out here. Though.
Speaker 7: You can't sit there and sit on your hands. Yeah
Speaker 7: you could talk about the contract stuff, that's a whole
Speaker 7: nother thing. But team building right now, as we speak,
Speaker 7: them going out and identifying we're not good enough at
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. We're not good enough at the edge, and
Speaker 7: we got to get better in those two spots. And
Speaker 7: to your point, yeah, they've got the draft capital to
Speaker 7: kind of move around. They've got teams they can look at.
Speaker 7: The Dolphins are a team that's got a lot of
Speaker 7: running backs. You can make a call to Chris Greer
Speaker 7: down there. Chris Gurrill trade all day with he loves
Speaker 7: trading down there. So yeah, I think I think there's
Speaker 7: still this is not this is not over. They're gonna
Speaker 7: keep looking at this roster and kind of figure out
Speaker 7: some more things about it really quick.
Speaker 6: I think this is pretty interesting too, just looking at the.
Speaker 4: Defense side of the ball and how many bodies that
Speaker 4: they've added there over the course of the last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks. It's I wonder how much influence Mike Zimmer
Speaker 4: has around here, because you look at a lot of
Speaker 4: these additions on both sides of the ball, they either
Speaker 4: have experience with Mike.
Speaker 6: Zimmer or Paul gun Through. A lot of these guys.
Speaker 4: I mean, they sign an offensive tackle yesterday, we'll get
Speaker 4: into that that has experienced with Mike Zimmer. So there's
Speaker 4: there's a lot of different elements to Mike Zimmer being
Speaker 4: involved in a few of these personnel decisions, and I
Speaker 4: think it's I think it speaks a lot towards the
Speaker 4: trust and the confidence that this front office has in Zimmer. Yes,
Speaker 4: he's on a one year deal, but I think there's
Speaker 4: a lot more confidence than just that.
Speaker 6: That speaks to it.
Speaker 3: He could be a pain in the ass, Yeah, can
Speaker 3: I dealt with that? Man? Oh, that's also the thing,
Speaker 3: in a good way.
Speaker 5: He's been he was here for many many he will
Speaker 5: be on relationship there and I think there's respect there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so when you start talking about regards of the
Speaker 5: terms of his deal, I think he's probably still a
Speaker 5: voice that Jerry respects. And so if he has something
Speaker 5: to say about a particular player, whether the player's here
Speaker 5: or a player that there may be a Will acquire,
Speaker 5: I'm sure that goes a long way with Jerry.
Speaker 7: I appreciate what Will and them are trying to do
Speaker 7: to help him, though. Yeah, you know, you can only
Speaker 7: like I say, these guys, the situation's not good with
Speaker 7: the one year deals, But none of these guys are complaining.
Speaker 7: They've all got gigs. You know, they're gonna do the
Speaker 7: best they can. And if the personal department can help
Speaker 7: them add players and they say.
Speaker 3: You know, the bad thing would be if they said, hey.
Speaker 7: We need an end, we need a tackle, we need,
Speaker 7: we need, we need and the front office says, nah,
Speaker 7: we're not doing that today. We're gonna do that. You
Speaker 7: know that that in itself, that doesn't build trust among
Speaker 7: the group.
Speaker 8: I mean, all it takes, aside from his career that
Speaker 8: he's had and what he's shown, all it takes is
Speaker 8: just looking at what he's done in this short amount
Speaker 8: of time here a training camp good and be like, Okay,
Speaker 8: what else do you want to tell me? We'll help
Speaker 8: you out.
Speaker 5: So it makes sense, Let's take our first break. When
Speaker 5: we come back, we'll talk about that practice Cowboys versus Rams.
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Speaker 2: All right? Let's do a Cowboys versus Rams.
Speaker 5: Cowboys and Rams have their second joint practice, and I'm
Speaker 5: sorry to think they get They're getting.
Speaker 2: More work out of that than they got out of
Speaker 2: that preseason game.
Speaker 5: It really gives them an opportunity to kind of get
Speaker 5: after a little bit with their starters and give them
Speaker 5: some opportunities to play somebody different.
Speaker 2: But let's go down the line. You guys give me.
Speaker 5: Some observations of things you saw yesterday during that joint practice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree to a certain extent, But I will
Speaker 4: say we were about an hour and a half into
Speaker 4: practice yesterday and I was like, man, the energy around
Speaker 4: here is kind of dead right now. And I was
Speaker 4: I was trying to identify why. And then I kind
Speaker 4: of go back and I look at, you know, some
Speaker 4: certain things that happened. Both defenses just dominated. I thought
Speaker 4: practice yesterday. I thought the Rams defense played really well.
Speaker 4: It kept Cowboys fans quiet, and then on the other side,
Speaker 4: it was the Cowboys defense getting after their offensive line
Speaker 4: for the Rams. Big seventy one for the Rams had
Speaker 4: a tough day against Micah Parsons. Chauncey Golson had some
Speaker 4: wins against some d Law had some wins against him,
Speaker 4: and then in the secondary Trayvon Diggs was finally able
Speaker 4: to get some team reps and he had an interception
Speaker 4: that was posted on the Dallas Cowboys Twitter page. Really
Speaker 4: really cool to see him back and leaping up and
Speaker 4: grabbing a ball, getting that turnover back on the sheet
Speaker 4: for him.
Speaker 6: But overall, I feel like.
Speaker 4: Both defenses played really well. Really loved what I saw
Speaker 4: from Eric Kendricks yesterday. You know, Demon Clark was out
Speaker 4: as he's battling his sore need. Demarvin Overshowon, only played
Speaker 4: about one series before he came out with a hit pointer.
Speaker 4: We'll see how those two guys develop as the week
Speaker 4: goes on, but Eric Kendricks really stepped up and played
Speaker 4: a big role for them as the week went on,
Speaker 4: or excuse me, as the practice went on yesterday. But
Speaker 4: all in all, both defenses I thought really dominated this practice.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yesterday I focused more on the Cowboys offense just
Speaker 8: because this is basically the last time we'll probably watch
Speaker 8: them go up another team because they're not expected to
Speaker 8: play in either of the last two preseason games. And
Speaker 8: to me, man, it was a tough watch. The Cowboys
Speaker 8: often struggle a whole lot and then going back to
Speaker 8: the running game and what's happening there. Since the beginning,
Speaker 8: I was being very gracious and like very giving them
Speaker 8: the benefit of the doubt, figuring out like, Okay, there's
Speaker 8: no way that all these running backs, and I'm going
Speaker 8: back to last season as well, that all of these
Speaker 8: different types of running backs cannot get through, like they
Speaker 8: cannot find a way to properly effectively run the ball.
Speaker 8: And now looking back and now what they got. There
Speaker 8: are moments they have had moments, but it's just not enough.
Speaker 8: I don't know what it is. I cannot pinpoint exactly
Speaker 8: what's happening. Because you look at each running back individually.
Speaker 8: They all have their own set of skills and they're
Speaker 8: able to show you those sparks and those run and
Speaker 8: sometimes Zeke he just breaks through and finds a way.
Speaker 8: But it's not happening enough. It's not happening consistently, and
Speaker 8: I don't I don't know what it is. I want
Speaker 8: to go back to the offensive line, maybe not doing
Speaker 8: their job, but at the same time, do you look
Speaker 8: at some of the things that they do, and they
Speaker 8: do a good job. So I don't know what's going
Speaker 8: on there, and it's starting to really get concerning for me,
Speaker 8: because I don't think the guys can go into the
Speaker 8: season purely relying on the passing game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was I like what both of us said.
Speaker 7: I think they were spot on with the observations of this.
Speaker 7: I felt like Dallas's defense, especially down in the goal
Speaker 7: line period, that gave me some good encouragement by the
Speaker 7: you know, the guys and how they're involved in you know,
Speaker 7: how they're getting their their defensive lineman more involved, how
Speaker 7: they're using Micah Parsons, how they're using the safety blit's
Speaker 7: how they're using the linebackers. I think Zimmer's got a
Speaker 7: really good feel for how to play goal line defense.
Speaker 7: I think the Rams had really a difficult time yesterday.
Speaker 7: I know Matthew Stafford got hurt during the practice with
Speaker 7: the tight hamstrings, so you know, it was it was
Speaker 7: up to Jimmy Garoppolo and others to have to do
Speaker 7: things there.
Speaker 3: But I thought overall, Dallas's.
Speaker 7: Defense was up to the task when it when it
Speaker 7: came and he got down there and you're thinking like, okay,
Speaker 7: you gotta gotta make a stop here, got to make
Speaker 7: a stand. There were several times where they played the
Speaker 7: run real well. They had good run fits. As I mentioned,
Speaker 7: they they were able to cover. They tried some the
Speaker 7: rams tried some kind of deceptives of moving them. Guys
Speaker 7: stayed in place. I really do feel like to me
Speaker 7: that that that was a very positive more and others
Speaker 7: mentioned and and Nick mentioned as the the offensive side
Speaker 7: of things. I thought it was a rough day for Geyton,
Speaker 7: and I know that Guyton hasn't practiced. I know the
Speaker 7: clips show him doing things well, and be careful with
Speaker 7: the clips because it's a whole practice, you know. He
Speaker 7: he to was even to himself. He admitted that he
Speaker 7: was out of sorts yesterday with some of the stuff
Speaker 7: versus an excellent pass rusher for them, the rookie from
Speaker 7: Florida State. He's long, he's he's got that ability. He
Speaker 7: broke Geiting down three times that I saw in this
Speaker 7: practice where swatting the hands away. When Guiton's really good,
Speaker 7: it's hands, it's sit and it's adjust with And there
Speaker 7: are times when he's very good. He had some reps
Speaker 7: yesterday where he was very good against first, but then
Speaker 7: there were other times like where say he get a
Speaker 7: little lungey, hands get.
Speaker 3: A little soft you know, these are all.
Speaker 7: Things that he's gonna have to kind of pick up
Speaker 7: along the way, uh in dealing with these elite and
Speaker 7: he's going to see a lot of elite edge. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, if if these guys get an understanding, if
Speaker 7: these guys get an understanding that they could they could
Speaker 7: rush you and take your hands and move your hands
Speaker 7: and then grab your corner and then go, it's gonna
Speaker 7: be a long day. So yeah, when in the one
Speaker 7: thing I could say with Geyton, he usually will bounce
Speaker 7: back with a good rep of two or three. It's
Speaker 7: not like but when you're going against a guy, it
Speaker 7: was just it was kind of clear that like Verse
Speaker 7: figured out.
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, if he's just gonna if he's just gonna
Speaker 3: put his.
Speaker 7: Hands up and not engage with his hands, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: take his hands and I'm gonna make him I'm gonna
Speaker 7: get him off balanced that way and then attack. And
Speaker 7: I think that happened a couple of times, not every
Speaker 7: single time. And there were some times in the one
Speaker 7: on one where you know, where Geiton did exactly what
Speaker 7: he needed to do. But I thought the team period there,
Speaker 7: the whole offensive line just didn't have it they didn't
Speaker 7: have that where they were they were. They were really
Speaker 7: in good, uh incontinuity with each other when it came
Speaker 7: to running game and then all some some of the
Speaker 7: past stuff. Dak was having to move. They really couldn't
Speaker 7: find anybody on the outside.
Speaker 3: And you know.
Speaker 7: I think the best receiver they had was down in
Speaker 7: the red zone on the goal line. When you look
Speaker 7: at Cooks, you know, his ability to find space is
Speaker 7: always going to be a plus.
Speaker 8: Sack got sacked multiple times. In the real game, he
Speaker 8: would have been on the ground.
Speaker 3: I think there were three. There were there was.
Speaker 7: I know that Verse had to and Hoyt had the
Speaker 7: to their other number ninety seven, their other edge jumped
Speaker 7: around Guidon one time rough day. I mean it was,
Speaker 7: you know, two sacks, a false start and a holding
Speaker 7: pilly and they're lucky on the holding pilly that they
Speaker 7: didn't lose Za Martin.
Speaker 4: So you would say, like if there was a you
Speaker 4: had to raise a hand at the end of the
Speaker 4: day between Verse and Guy and you're raising the Verse hand, I.
Speaker 3: Think I would.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I agree to that point.
Speaker 4: It was from the from the one on one pass
Speaker 4: rush stuff and then translating into the team drills. Yes,
Speaker 4: he had low lows and there was some bad there
Speaker 4: was some bad points there, but the way Guiden got
Speaker 4: him on the ground a few times, and then when
Speaker 4: Guiden was exited from the game, Versus was attacking any and.
Speaker 6: Everybody like, yeah, that's that's different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Josh ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he attacked those guys and from that point on
Speaker 4: they didn't move the ball more than five ten yards
Speaker 4: down the field. If I had to raise a hand
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I think it's a
Speaker 4: close you know.
Speaker 3: Oh no, the third judge, Yeah, it's it's a split.
Speaker 3: It's it's a split decision. I mean, I didn't know
Speaker 3: I had the option of a split decision. I was thinking.
Speaker 3: But I think there's things.
Speaker 7: One Geiden hasn't practiced a whole lot, but when he's played,
Speaker 7: he's been good. I think that he knows that if
Speaker 7: he's going against these type of pass rushers that could
Speaker 7: break him down, that that technique has got to be
Speaker 7: And you're right, the one on one stuff I thought
Speaker 7: was good. That's see, that's the that's the side of
Speaker 7: him that you're like, Okay, he understands that.
Speaker 3: But if you were.
Speaker 7: Talking about team moved the ball yesterday and Ambar saying,
Speaker 7: we're all saying the offense didn't look very good.
Speaker 3: He wasn't alone. They were.
Speaker 7: They were kind of breaking down all along that offensive
Speaker 7: line for them yesterday. It wasn't a move the ball period.
Speaker 7: It was trying to like like it was a first
Speaker 7: down a second now and now we're throwing the ball
Speaker 7: wide on the third down. You know, there wasn't that
Speaker 7: that crispness to their offense like we saw the first
Speaker 7: time that these guys practiced against each other.
Speaker 5: And I also throw this out, I think, and at
Speaker 5: least what from what I've seen, it seems to me
Speaker 5: that Geiden is a little farther along in his run
Speaker 5: than his pass.
Speaker 2: Yes, as a run blocker, I'm really.
Speaker 5: Impressed with some of the things I've seen from him,
Speaker 5: And I think that's just probably the nature of becoming
Speaker 5: an offensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be harder when you up again.
Speaker 3: You see it that way, No, I don't don't know.
Speaker 3: I was got when you said it. I went, wait
Speaker 3: a minute.
Speaker 7: Now, there's things that he's done with the run block
Speaker 7: and stuff, because I think in Oklahoma he didn't do
Speaker 7: a lot of that has to do it a lot differently,
Speaker 7: a lot differently, but here the technique and the stuff.
Speaker 7: His ability to get off the ball. He had some
Speaker 7: some of his best reps I thought in the move
Speaker 7: the ball period was his ability to cut off or
Speaker 7: to play in space.
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't.
Speaker 7: There was one time they asked him to fire off
Speaker 7: the ball and the guy swam him and then he
Speaker 7: had to adjust back, so it wasn't a negative play.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 7: I think that where where I think the run blocking
Speaker 7: for somebody that hasn't done it very much, I think
Speaker 7: is actually good to your point, But the past, the
Speaker 7: pass block and stuff, when he when he goes against
Speaker 7: Parsons and tank and you're like, okay, you know, handset,
Speaker 7: it's all that's together. But he kind of fell apart
Speaker 7: a little bit in some of his reps yesterday that
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 5: My question is, and this is kind of what I
Speaker 5: was getting to more, it seems like when the bus,
Speaker 5: just take your point, kind of make sure we're saying
Speaker 5: the same thing. Though it seems like to me when
Speaker 5: the bus happened, when the bad moments happened, they have
Speaker 5: typically been in the past game not necessarily I haven't
Speaker 5: seen a lot of those types of moments in the
Speaker 5: run game where I'm like, oh, what was that? Well
Speaker 5: he missed that.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of those in the run game.
Speaker 2: I've seen those more in the past game. By the way,
Speaker 2: in the past game, I think he's been I actually
Speaker 2: agree with you.
Speaker 5: I think yesterday I actually came out of that feeling
Speaker 5: like it was a good day for guiding, especially going
Speaker 5: against someone with the skill level of Verse. But all
Speaker 5: that being said, like when I see busts, they typically
Speaker 5: happen in the past game, at least from what I've seen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he the one time he got they tried to
Speaker 7: run the ball with Zeek over in the move the
Speaker 7: ball period, and they were going to try and go
Speaker 7: off the right side, and he fired out and got
Speaker 7: swam and then the guy went behind, went back door
Speaker 7: and made the play.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: So it's rare that he is not connected. It's rare
Speaker 7: and run or pass when you watch him play. So
Speaker 7: I stand your point. But I think for somebody that
Speaker 7: did his run blocking to me has been surprisingly good
Speaker 7: right because of that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I but I.
Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily saying it's bad. I think it's
Speaker 4: just that's where the inexperience is showing.
Speaker 3: For that that's where a lot of it is.
Speaker 6: I see experience in or his past protection.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily see the experience yet in the run
Speaker 4: blocking stuff, and I think he's continuously getting better from that.
Speaker 4: But you look at the rams film from the game
Speaker 4: on Sunday, he looked great in pass protection. There was
Speaker 4: a couple of things in run blocking where he was
Speaker 4: able to guys got around him or he didn't necessarily
Speaker 4: understand the protection set like. There were a few things,
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, that's that's where the inexperience
Speaker 4: is starting to show up a little bit. And sure
Speaker 4: that could be a product of him moving to the
Speaker 4: left side of the line as well. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: probably where you're gonna have to have the most adjusting
Speaker 4: from going from the right to left from his perspective,
Speaker 4: because he was still covering a blind side of the quarterback.
Speaker 4: But going to the left side, it's a lot different
Speaker 4: as far as outside zone stuff and trying to cover
Speaker 4: you know, different types of defensive ends on that side
Speaker 4: of the ball. I think for me, I still see
Speaker 4: the inexperience showing in the run blocking.
Speaker 6: That's why I am concerned when he goes up against bigger.
Speaker 4: Defensive en you know, the season, So we're talking about
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett week one. I think that's a guy that
Speaker 4: can really use his power to get around him in
Speaker 4: the run game, whereas in the past protection he has
Speaker 4: a really good footwork, he has really good hands. I
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be able to hold his own more
Speaker 4: often than not. I mean we've seen that out here
Speaker 4: against Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence. I think that'll translate
Speaker 4: to the game in Week one and translate to the field.
Speaker 4: It's the run blocking stuff that I do have concerns with,
Speaker 4: and I think that trickles down the entire offensive line.
Speaker 4: You know, speaking to your point earlier ago about the
Speaker 4: run game, I think there is a big problem still
Speaker 4: in the offensive line about creating holes, and I think
Speaker 4: Guidan's a part of that.
Speaker 6: I do. And I think will he get better as
Speaker 6: the season goes on?
Speaker 4: You would hope so, And you've seen him get better
Speaker 4: just in the time we've been out here in Oxnard.
Speaker 4: But I think going into Week one, there's gonna need
Speaker 4: to be some adjusting and and different philosophies.
Speaker 6: And one more points to that.
Speaker 4: If I could you see tight end sets next to
Speaker 4: Tyler Guidon more often than not when you're running the ball.
Speaker 4: If they want that protection to be on that side,
Speaker 4: they put the Brevin span forwards to the Luke Scoon
Speaker 4: makers to Jake Ferguson's over on his side to give
Speaker 4: him help in the run protection. That's I think that's
Speaker 4: speaking to that inexperience and preparing for week one, week three,
Speaker 4: week six against Detroit to have a guy next to
Speaker 4: him whenever they do need to get after the Miles,
Speaker 4: Garretts and the bigger defensive.
Speaker 7: Do you feel with the switch to BB that they're
Speaker 7: doing exactly what you're talking about, that they're worried so
Speaker 7: much about the run offense that that putting BB instead
Speaker 7: of Hoffman in there is something that they I know
Speaker 7: BB's shown he could pass that and do the things
Speaker 7: to play a power but do you think that they're
Speaker 7: maybe thinking long term that they could run the ball
Speaker 7: better with BB in there than Hoffman.
Speaker 4: I think that's an interesting point. It depends do you
Speaker 4: want a power guy in the middle, do you want
Speaker 4: an athlete in the Yeah? And I think that kind
Speaker 4: of speaks to the rest of your offensive line. You know,
Speaker 4: what do you have up there and what do you
Speaker 4: need right there in the middle. I think if you
Speaker 4: asked me, you know, week week fifteen Cooper BB versus
Speaker 4: Week one Cooper BB, it's gonna look a lot different, sure,
Speaker 4: but I think you look at week one brock Hoffman
Speaker 4: versus Week fifteen Cooper BB, and I think probably looking
Speaker 4: at a pretty even playing field. So it's do you
Speaker 4: want to get the reps for Cooper and do you
Speaker 4: want to have him out here with the ones? Do
Speaker 4: you want to start him in the middle of or
Speaker 4: at the start of the season with the ones? I
Speaker 4: think you're going to have to come with some growing
Speaker 4: pains as that comes along. But unfortunately they don't have
Speaker 4: a running back that can kind of work around growing.
Speaker 6: Pains on the offensive line. But that's also don't feel
Speaker 6: like they do.
Speaker 5: That's also the question. It sounds like from what you
Speaker 5: guys are seeing, you're saying that the offensive line is
Speaker 5: as much a part of the problems in the run game.
Speaker 5: Point is, do we have you had an opportunity to
Speaker 5: really be able to evaluate the running backs If the
Speaker 5: offensive line is really where your problem.
Speaker 8: Is that's wherever in which which one is it? Because
Speaker 8: sometimes I'll see it's the running back no finding the
Speaker 8: freaking gap and get in in there and doing what
Speaker 8: they need to do. And then other times it's like, well, dang, okay,
Speaker 8: what do you expect?
Speaker 3: Like they don't the.
Speaker 8: Offensive line is not creating those holes for the running back.
Speaker 8: So that's where I'm having a very hard time evaluating
Speaker 8: this issue as far as the running game, because it
Speaker 8: is a mixture of both. Sometimes I see one doing well,
Speaker 8: the other one failing, and vice versa. So I don't
Speaker 8: know if you're seeing something different, Brian.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I like what you're saying there.
Speaker 7: The thing about it, I don't need Trey Lance throwing
Speaker 7: the ball forty times the game, right, you know, if
Speaker 7: it would, it would do my heart good. If if
Speaker 7: Trey Lance through the ball twenty twenty five times, I'd
Speaker 7: do my heart good. And those other runs, let's load up,
Speaker 7: you know, let's see just kind of be committed. If
Speaker 7: you're you know, if you're if you're Mike McCarthy, take
Speaker 7: the Mike Zimmer approach and go without the play sheet,
Speaker 7: just call your three base runs and and see how
Speaker 7: well you can really. I just think that we don't
Speaker 7: know that because we saw a guy throw the ball
Speaker 7: forty times the other day. You know where maybe they
Speaker 7: could have you know, maybe they could have tried some more.
Speaker 7: If you keep telling us that you like Malik Davis
Speaker 7: and all that. Yeah, you give him a lot of carries,
Speaker 7: but give him more carries. You give him eight carries, well, heck,
Speaker 7: give him fifteen carries.
Speaker 6: Well you see eight carries for eighteen yards. Is that
Speaker 6: an inspire confidence?
Speaker 3: No, it really does.
Speaker 7: But I just you know, to me, if they go
Speaker 7: out there and they try to on the ball and
Speaker 7: there's problems, then you can now say, okay, I've identified
Speaker 7: the line is having issues. The running backs aren't fast enough,
Speaker 7: they're not hitting the holes quick enough, and the tight
Speaker 7: ends can't block. And Hunter Lipkey as a fullback is
Speaker 7: not the answer. Those are all things I can figure
Speaker 7: out if you show me that you're committed. Now we'll
Speaker 7: see times when they do nine on seven out here, Well,
Speaker 7: they'll pop some runs. But man throwing the ball forty
Speaker 7: times the other day wasn't committed to running the football
Speaker 7: or or finding out if you could, you know, run
Speaker 7: the football.
Speaker 6: So are they committed to finding an RB three.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yes, okay, And I'm
Speaker 7: saying this because I know and they're not that they
Speaker 7: listen to us. Well, they do listen. That's what am
Speaker 7: I saying. Hi, how are you doing? Good to see
Speaker 7: you guys. You were doing a wonderful job.
Speaker 3: The thing we you identified, they've identified.
Speaker 7: We keep talking about positions, the tackle, the ends, we
Speaker 7: talk about the running backs. I think that's the same
Speaker 7: thing here. I think that they're looking at this and
Speaker 7: they're going, is Malik we all believe, maybe I'm speaking
Speaker 7: out of turn here, believe that Zeke Daddle Hunter Lipke
Speaker 7: right top three? Yes, if they carry a fourth, are
Speaker 7: you convinced Malik.
Speaker 3: Davis is that guy?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You gotta be a special teams guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. If they're if they
Speaker 7: if we're all believe in this, they're probably looking at
Speaker 7: the same thing and saying, Okay, is is there somebody
Speaker 7: at Tampa Bay or Atlanta or Miami that's better than
Speaker 7: Malik Davis?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 7: Is there someone there better than Ezekiel Elliott. You know
Speaker 7: that's what you really, if you're honest with yourself, that's
Speaker 7: how you should evaluate this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have two RB two's leading your running back room,
Speaker 4: which it comes with its pros, but it certainly comes
Speaker 4: with its cons too. I mean, like I've mentioned, they
Speaker 4: don't have a playmaker at running back, and if you
Speaker 4: are expecting growing pains, especially on the front half of
Speaker 4: the schedule against the defenses you're going up against, you
Speaker 4: need a playmaker at that running back position.
Speaker 5: At this point though in the year, do you think
Speaker 5: you could find that? I mean, even if you were
Speaker 5: trying to trade for it, I think trying to find
Speaker 5: a real playmaker at running back maybe kind of difficult
Speaker 5: at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just the guy was some twitch right,
Speaker 4: I mean, what who would you say is the twitchiest
Speaker 4: running back right now?
Speaker 6: I mean, we haven't seen a whole lot of.
Speaker 4: Deuce fall and yeah, he's there, so I but how
Speaker 4: how much experience is he going to be able to
Speaker 4: grab in the next week at camp. He just returned
Speaker 4: to practice yesterday. He's going to have to have a
Speaker 4: huge last two preseason games to be able to inspire
Speaker 4: confidence there. For me, at least, I just I don't
Speaker 4: understand where the playmaking is. Maybe they've been running him
Speaker 4: out of the backfield a couple of times.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's a who I.
Speaker 5: Will say this, I really believe, I really believe that
Speaker 5: Caricodowdell is a really good running back. My issues with
Speaker 5: him have never been about his ability. It's just where
Speaker 5: the hell can he stay healthy? That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 7: So if you guaranteed me that he was going to
Speaker 7: stay healthy for seventeen weeks, I probably wouldn't go run
Speaker 7: grab a running back.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, like I would feel I would.
Speaker 7: Be willing to give him the ball that But but
Speaker 7: if you but I know there's going to be a
Speaker 7: day where all of a sudden, we're in week six
Speaker 7: and he's out because of an injury, and these two
Speaker 7: weeks I'm not wishing, I'm not hoping that. I'm just
Speaker 7: talking about, you know that things like that happen with him.
Speaker 7: He hasn't played the ol season like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just I see him and it's been since
Speaker 5: he got here with the Cowboys. He has these runs
Speaker 5: where you're like, that was a really good run, and
Speaker 5: you always kind of it's almost like you surprised yourself,
Speaker 5: but you're like, you shouldn't be surprised at this point.
Speaker 5: He does it pretty regularly with these nice runs, and
Speaker 5: I think the question just becomes can he stay healthy?
Speaker 5: That's the most important thing for Rico Downell.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take our final break.
Speaker 5: We'll come back. Well in the show, I did have
Speaker 5: some questions for you guys on a wide receiver depth.
Speaker 2: We'll see if we can get to.
Speaker 5: That and kind of talk about that a little bit
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Speaker 5: Welcome back, final segment of the break. We only got
Speaker 5: two minutes, so we're gonna hold that conversation on wide
Speaker 5: receiver depth until next week. But I'm sorry. This segment
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Speaker 5: so this this final segment we're gonna do is I
Speaker 5: didn'ted to catch up real quick on a couple of
Speaker 5: news items or Robostic left practice yesterday. Cowboys did sign
Speaker 5: a tackle earlier, Cole Cabral. But where are they at
Speaker 5: this point with with their offensive tackles. That's you know,
Speaker 5: just the bodies are starting to dwindle a little bit.
Speaker 5: What are you guys thinking and hearing as far as
Speaker 5: the tackle position?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they worked out two guys yesterday morning, Cole
Speaker 4: Cabral and then Drew Samia.
Speaker 6: Both of these guys have experienced under Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 4: Samia being a fourth round pick by Zimmer in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: and then in that same draft class, Cabral was an
Speaker 4: undrafted free agent addition. Looking at Cabral, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: just a big body that they're able to bring in
Speaker 4: and be able to help at the offensive tackle depth position.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you see Earl bost To go down with
Speaker 4: an injury. You see Chu Maydoga go down with an
Speaker 4: injury earlier in the week. There's not a lot of
Speaker 4: healthy tackle bodies, and even less healthy left tackle bodies.
Speaker 4: Like I said earlier in the show, they shifted Josh
Speaker 4: Ball over to the left side. He hasn't had many,
Speaker 4: if any team reps there during camp, and he just
Speaker 4: looked out of place. And you look at Matt will Letsko,
Speaker 4: He's a guy that coaches have said that they like
Speaker 4: him more on the right side of the line. So
Speaker 4: you're really just looking at Austome Richards and then Nathan Thomas.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been at camp. He's been injured for the
Speaker 4: last week and a half. Yeah, so it's it's tough.
Speaker 4: It's it's really tough for them to be able to
Speaker 4: find reliable depth right now. So Cole Cabral, they add
Speaker 4: him it's just another body. He doesn't have any NFL
Speaker 4: game experience in the regular season, but right now they
Speaker 4: need as many bodies as possible at that position. It's
Speaker 4: it's getting it's getting concerning because if you do get
Speaker 4: to a situation during the season where Tyler Geidon goes
Speaker 4: down before to Manydoga can get back, you're probably looking
Speaker 4: at musical chairs on the offensive line.
Speaker 8: Again, question, is this an across the league type of
Speaker 8: problem or are we the only one who are always
Speaker 8: dealing with injuries on the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Somebody like Minnesota Vikings would like a word with you
Speaker 3: in a way starting quarterback. I mean, it's a problem
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 7: We do an NFL segment every day one one, five
Speaker 7: to three of the fan and we we probably go
Speaker 7: through four or five injuries a day of major injuries
Speaker 7: on teams. So yeah, it's part of camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in a way, yes, offensive line, there's not a
Speaker 4: wealthy or a healthy amount of bodies there on the
Speaker 4: offensive line that can be NFL caliber players that can
Speaker 4: step in and be ready to go. I mean the
Speaker 4: Cowboys are They have the luxury of interior depth right now,
Speaker 4: and that's that's something that not a lot of teams
Speaker 4: can say and if they do get into a pinch
Speaker 4: during the season, that interior depth could actually really help
Speaker 4: them because they have a guy named Tyler Smith who
Speaker 4: has great experience at left tackle. But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: a league wide problem. But right now, I would say
Speaker 4: the Cowboys are dealing with this problem a little bit
Speaker 4: harsher right now compared to some other teams, just because
Speaker 4: they just lost two tackle bodies rather quickly in the
Speaker 4: last in the last few days.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that you know your thing with Bostic, that's a
Speaker 7: that's a that's a bad, bad high ankle sprain that
Speaker 7: they're talking about. Probably not lost for the year, but
Speaker 7: they're gonna have to probably do some surgery there to
Speaker 7: fix that, and they use that tightrope procedure is what
Speaker 7: they now to kind of hopefully get it. Probably not
Speaker 7: lost for the year, but it's a it's a significant injury.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's that's one of those things. Tackle is a
Speaker 5: hard put position to replace. Not all guys have the
Speaker 5: skill to do it. Can you see a lot of
Speaker 5: times guys will come from college and they'll slide them
Speaker 5: to the inside. Because tackle is a very tough position
Speaker 5: to play in the NFL. All right, so we'll be
Speaker 5: back on next Tuesday. We'll wrap up this camp and
Speaker 5: kind of give you guys our opinions on what we've
Speaker 5: seen holistically throughout camp and then get Harry ready to
Speaker 5: head back to Frisco, get another week of some practices
Speaker 5: in and then we're into the season. It's it's that time.
Speaker 5: It's about to be cut down, cut to cut down time,
Speaker 5: and we will get into the twenty twenty four NFL season.
Speaker 5: Until then, for Brian brought us Amber Garcia, Nick Harris,
Speaker 5: I'm Derek Heiltson. This has been The Break live on
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