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Speaker 1: Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and

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Speaker 5: It is Thursday August fifteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 5: Episode seventeen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break

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Speaker 5: We've got a lot to get into today. Cowboys making moves.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into some transactions that have happened over the

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Speaker 5: last twenty four hours. We'll talk about an injury from

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Speaker 5: yesterday's practice that.

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Speaker 2: Could factor into some.

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Speaker 5: Of the things that Cowboys are doing, particularly on the

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Speaker 5: offensive line. And we'll also have some practice observations. Yesterday,

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys have another joint practice with the LA Rams.

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Speaker 5: Interesting practice. I'm sure you guys will have some great

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Speaker 5: notes on some players that played well and maybe some

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Speaker 5: moments that weren't so great. We'll talk about that later

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Speaker 5: in the show. We'll start first with transactions. Cowboys are

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Speaker 5: in the process. I'm not sure what the final is

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Speaker 5: on all this, but in the process of trading for

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Speaker 5: defensive tackle Jordan Phillips and also signing defensive end Carl Lawson.

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Speaker 5: What do we know about these two transactions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll start with the trade for Jordan Phillips to Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: They send a twenty twenty six seventh round picks of

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Speaker 4: the New York Giants in exchange for Jordan Phillips and

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Speaker 4: a sixth round pick in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: So interesting value there for the Cowboys to be able

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Speaker 6: to make this trade.

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Speaker 4: They can experience a guy that's been in the league

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Speaker 4: now ten years. He has experience playing at that one

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Speaker 4: tech position. You know, if you're looking for a player

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Speaker 6: Little bit of pass rush, this is your guy.

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Speaker 4: But I think also whenever I was looking at the

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Speaker 4: Jordan Phillips is six foot six three and forty one pounds.

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Speaker 4: Yes he is wide, Yes he does have a big frame.

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Speaker 4: But I think this is more of a pass rush

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Speaker 6: Able to take that next step forward.

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Speaker 4: This is not a trade where it's like, all right,

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Speaker 4: Mazzi didn't do it, so here's here's a guy that's

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's necessarily the case.

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Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be a situation where both

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Speaker 4: I think could really help them in the pass rush department.

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Speaker 5: And you look at Carl real quick before you go,

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Speaker 5: before you go, begun there, Brian, do you agree on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, all right, trying to

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Speaker 7: get out No, no, man, you're getting after it there.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate. No, I do agree with what he was

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Speaker 7: I think the three hundred and forty pounds makes him

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Speaker 7: Those are the types of things I think that when

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Speaker 8: Well, something that I've noticed, like even last year, towards

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Speaker 4: He had a career high and pass his defense last year.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna play on every down.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this is necessarily the guy, but without

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm glad I on a limb here because

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing all these great things about pass rush, nimble,

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Speaker 2: Can he not do that?

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Speaker 7: I this is where I disagree with Nick on this particular.

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Speaker 7: I think that he can play the run. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I totally get the thought about wanting Mazie to be better.

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Speaker 7: I think this guy when you look at him, when

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Speaker 7: He got hurt on a play in the game against

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Speaker 4: Gotcham Yeah, And I think it's more so just more

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you just think of a big trash can

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Speaker 7: there's there there are situations like you say, you watched

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Now you got him excited if you tell me you

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Speaker 5: get me Hankins with more pass rush, Now I'm excited.

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Speaker 7: The pass rush stuff is really for a man that

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Speaker 3: It really and I thought you were gonna pull out at.

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Speaker 5: Chris Jones, like obviously Chris Jones, But yeah, that's what

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Speaker 7: This guy has struggled. He's been with some teas, he

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Speaker 7: struggled with his health at times. It's been you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, but if you watch the games, like I say.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to put him up against these offensive lines,

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Speaker 7: kind of felt like that was something that to me, like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Kansas City. Nick mentioned his ability to get up and

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Speaker 7: Mahomes has to kind of throw its side ar him

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Speaker 7: I think this guy, if you're going to make a

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Speaker 6: A lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: They've been kind of going around looking at Carl Lawson

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Speaker 5: now for a couple of weeks here. He was one

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Speaker 5: guess was too. All my days are kind of running

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So Carl Lawson, while he has dealt with some injuries

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Speaker 7: You can't sit there and sit on your hands. Yeah

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Speaker 7: you could talk about the contract stuff, that's a whole

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Speaker 6: That speaks to it.

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Speaker 5: He's been he was here for many many he will

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Speaker 7: I appreciate what Will and them are trying to do

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Speaker 7: like I say, these guys, the situation's not good with

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Speaker 7: They've all got gigs. You know, they're gonna do the

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Speaker 3: You know, the bad thing would be if they said, hey.

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Speaker 7: We need an end, we need a tackle, we need,

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Speaker 2: All right? Let's do a Cowboys versus Rams.

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Speaker 5: Cowboys and Rams have their second joint practice, and I'm

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Speaker 5: sorry to think they get They're getting.

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Speaker 2: More work out of that than they got out of

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Speaker 2: that preseason game.

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Speaker 5: It really gives them an opportunity to kind of get

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Speaker 5: after a little bit with their starters and give them

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Speaker 5: some opportunities to play somebody different.

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Speaker 2: But let's go down the line. You guys give me.

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Speaker 5: Some observations of things you saw yesterday during that joint practice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree to a certain extent, But I will

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Speaker 4: say we were about an hour and a half into

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Speaker 4: practice yesterday and I was like, man, the energy around

455
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Speaker 4: here is kind of dead right now. And I was

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Speaker 4: I was trying to identify why. And then I kind

457
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Speaker 4: of go back and I look at, you know, some

458
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Speaker 4: certain things that happened. Both defenses just dominated. I thought

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Speaker 4: practice yesterday. I thought the Rams defense played really well.

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Speaker 4: It kept Cowboys fans quiet, and then on the other side,

461
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Speaker 4: it was the Cowboys defense getting after their offensive line

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Speaker 4: for the Rams. Big seventy one for the Rams had

463
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Speaker 4: a tough day against Micah Parsons. Chauncey Golson had some

464
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Speaker 4: wins against some d Law had some wins against him,

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Speaker 4: and then in the secondary Trayvon Diggs was finally able

466
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Speaker 4: to get some team reps and he had an interception

467
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Speaker 4: that was posted on the Dallas Cowboys Twitter page. Really

468
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Speaker 4: really cool to see him back and leaping up and

469
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Speaker 4: grabbing a ball, getting that turnover back on the sheet

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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 6: But overall, I feel like.

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Speaker 4: Both defenses played really well. Really loved what I saw

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Speaker 4: from Eric Kendricks yesterday. You know, Demon Clark was out

474
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Speaker 4: as he's battling his sore need. Demarvin Overshowon, only played

475
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Speaker 4: about one series before he came out with a hit pointer.

476
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Speaker 4: We'll see how those two guys develop as the week

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Speaker 4: goes on, but Eric Kendricks really stepped up and played

478
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Speaker 4: a big role for them as the week went on,

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Speaker 4: or excuse me, as the practice went on yesterday. But

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Speaker 4: all in all, both defenses I thought really dominated this practice.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yesterday I focused more on the Cowboys offense just

482
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Speaker 8: because this is basically the last time we'll probably watch

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Speaker 8: them go up another team because they're not expected to

484
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Speaker 8: play in either of the last two preseason games. And

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Speaker 8: to me, man, it was a tough watch. The Cowboys

486
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Speaker 8: often struggle a whole lot and then going back to

487
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Speaker 8: the running game and what's happening there. Since the beginning,

488
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Speaker 8: I was being very gracious and like very giving them

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Speaker 8: the benefit of the doubt, figuring out like, Okay, there's

490
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Speaker 8: no way that all these running backs, and I'm going

491
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Speaker 8: back to last season as well, that all of these

492
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Speaker 8: different types of running backs cannot get through, like they

493
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Speaker 8: cannot find a way to properly effectively run the ball.

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Speaker 8: And now looking back and now what they got. There

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Speaker 8: are moments they have had moments, but it's just not enough.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what it is. I cannot pinpoint exactly

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Speaker 8: what's happening. Because you look at each running back individually.

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Speaker 8: They all have their own set of skills and they're

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Speaker 8: able to show you those sparks and those run and

500
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Speaker 8: sometimes Zeke he just breaks through and finds a way.

501
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Speaker 8: But it's not happening enough. It's not happening consistently, and

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Speaker 8: I don't I don't know what it is. I want

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Speaker 8: to go back to the offensive line, maybe not doing

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Speaker 8: their job, but at the same time, do you look

505
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Speaker 8: at some of the things that they do, and they

506
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Speaker 8: do a good job. So I don't know what's going

507
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Speaker 8: on there, and it's starting to really get concerning for me,

508
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Speaker 8: because I don't think the guys can go into the

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Speaker 8: season purely relying on the passing game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was I like what both of us said.

511
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Speaker 7: I think they were spot on with the observations of this.

512
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Speaker 7: I felt like Dallas's defense, especially down in the goal

513
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Speaker 7: line period, that gave me some good encouragement by the

514
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Speaker 7: you know, the guys and how they're involved in you know,

515
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Speaker 7: how they're getting their their defensive lineman more involved, how

516
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Speaker 7: they're using Micah Parsons, how they're using the safety blit's

517
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Speaker 7: how they're using the linebackers. I think Zimmer's got a

518
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Speaker 7: really good feel for how to play goal line defense.

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Speaker 7: I think the Rams had really a difficult time yesterday.

520
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Speaker 7: I know Matthew Stafford got hurt during the practice with

521
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Speaker 7: the tight hamstrings, so you know, it was it was

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Speaker 7: up to Jimmy Garoppolo and others to have to do

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Speaker 7: things there.

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Speaker 3: But I thought overall, Dallas's.

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Speaker 7: Defense was up to the task when it when it

526
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Speaker 7: came and he got down there and you're thinking like, okay,

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Speaker 7: you gotta gotta make a stop here, got to make

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Speaker 7: a stand. There were several times where they played the

529
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Speaker 7: run real well. They had good run fits. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 7: they they were able to cover. They tried some the

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Speaker 7: rams tried some kind of deceptives of moving them. Guys

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Speaker 7: stayed in place. I really do feel like to me

533
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Speaker 7: that that that was a very positive more and others

534
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Speaker 7: mentioned and and Nick mentioned as the the offensive side

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Speaker 7: of things. I thought it was a rough day for Geyton,

536
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Speaker 7: and I know that Guyton hasn't practiced. I know the

537
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Speaker 7: clips show him doing things well, and be careful with

538
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Speaker 7: the clips because it's a whole practice, you know. He

539
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Speaker 7: he to was even to himself. He admitted that he

540
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Speaker 7: was out of sorts yesterday with some of the stuff

541
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Speaker 7: versus an excellent pass rusher for them, the rookie from

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Speaker 7: Florida State. He's long, he's he's got that ability. He

543
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Speaker 7: broke Geiting down three times that I saw in this

544
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Speaker 7: practice where swatting the hands away. When Guiton's really good,

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Speaker 7: it's hands, it's sit and it's adjust with And there

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Speaker 7: are times when he's very good. He had some reps

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Speaker 7: yesterday where he was very good against first, but then

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Speaker 7: there were other times like where say he get a

549
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Speaker 7: little lungey, hands get.

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Speaker 3: A little soft you know, these are all.

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Speaker 7: Things that he's gonna have to kind of pick up

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Speaker 7: along the way, uh in dealing with these elite and

553
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Speaker 7: he's going to see a lot of elite edge. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know, if if these guys get an understanding, if

555
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Speaker 7: these guys get an understanding that they could they could

556
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Speaker 7: rush you and take your hands and move your hands

557
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Speaker 7: and then grab your corner and then go, it's gonna

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Speaker 7: be a long day. So yeah, when in the one

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Speaker 7: thing I could say with Geyton, he usually will bounce

560
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Speaker 7: back with a good rep of two or three. It's

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Speaker 7: not like but when you're going against a guy, it

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Speaker 7: was just it was kind of clear that like Verse

563
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Speaker 7: figured out.

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Speaker 3: Like, Okay, if he's just gonna if he's just gonna

565
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Speaker 3: put his.

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Speaker 7: Hands up and not engage with his hands, I'm gonna

567
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Speaker 7: take his hands and I'm gonna make him I'm gonna

568
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Speaker 7: get him off balanced that way and then attack. And

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Speaker 7: I think that happened a couple of times, not every

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Speaker 7: single time. And there were some times in the one

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Speaker 7: on one where you know, where Geiton did exactly what

572
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Speaker 7: he needed to do. But I thought the team period there,

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Speaker 7: the whole offensive line just didn't have it they didn't

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Speaker 7: have that where they were they were. They were really

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Speaker 7: in good, uh incontinuity with each other when it came

576
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Speaker 7: to running game and then all some some of the

577
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Speaker 7: past stuff. Dak was having to move. They really couldn't

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Speaker 7: find anybody on the outside.

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Speaker 3: And you know.

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Speaker 7: I think the best receiver they had was down in

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Speaker 7: the red zone on the goal line. When you look

582
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Speaker 7: at Cooks, you know, his ability to find space is

583
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Speaker 7: always going to be a plus.

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Speaker 8: Sack got sacked multiple times. In the real game, he

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Speaker 8: would have been on the ground.

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Speaker 3: I think there were three. There were there was.

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Speaker 7: I know that Verse had to and Hoyt had the

588
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Speaker 7: to their other number ninety seven, their other edge jumped

589
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Speaker 7: around Guidon one time rough day. I mean it was,

590
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Speaker 7: you know, two sacks, a false start and a holding

591
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Speaker 7: pilly and they're lucky on the holding pilly that they

592
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Speaker 7: didn't lose Za Martin.

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Speaker 4: So you would say, like if there was a you

594
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Speaker 4: had to raise a hand at the end of the

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Speaker 4: day between Verse and Guy and you're raising the Verse hand, I.

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Speaker 3: Think I would.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I agree to that point.

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Speaker 4: It was from the from the one on one pass

599
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Speaker 4: rush stuff and then translating into the team drills. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he had low lows and there was some bad there

601
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Speaker 4: was some bad points there, but the way Guiden got

602
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Speaker 4: him on the ground a few times, and then when

603
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Speaker 4: Guiden was exited from the game, Versus was attacking any and.

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Speaker 6: Everybody like, yeah, that's that's different.

605
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Josh ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he attacked those guys and from that point on

607
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Speaker 4: they didn't move the ball more than five ten yards

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Speaker 4: down the field. If I had to raise a hand

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I think it's a

610
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Speaker 4: close you know.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, the third judge, Yeah, it's it's a split.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a split decision. I mean, I didn't know

613
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Speaker 3: I had the option of a split decision. I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's things.

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Speaker 7: One Geiden hasn't practiced a whole lot, but when he's played,

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Speaker 7: he's been good. I think that he knows that if

617
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Speaker 7: he's going against these type of pass rushers that could

618
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Speaker 7: break him down, that that technique has got to be

619
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Speaker 7: And you're right, the one on one stuff I thought

620
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Speaker 7: was good. That's see, that's the that's the side of

621
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Speaker 7: him that you're like, Okay, he understands that.

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Speaker 3: But if you were.

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Speaker 7: Talking about team moved the ball yesterday and Ambar saying,

624
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Speaker 7: we're all saying the offense didn't look very good.

625
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Speaker 3: He wasn't alone. They were.

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Speaker 7: They were kind of breaking down all along that offensive

627
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Speaker 7: line for them yesterday. It wasn't a move the ball period.

628
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Speaker 7: It was trying to like like it was a first

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Speaker 7: down a second now and now we're throwing the ball

630
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Speaker 7: wide on the third down. You know, there wasn't that

631
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Speaker 7: that crispness to their offense like we saw the first

632
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Speaker 7: time that these guys practiced against each other.

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Speaker 5: And I also throw this out, I think, and at

634
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Speaker 5: least what from what I've seen, it seems to me

635
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Speaker 5: that Geiden is a little farther along in his run

636
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Speaker 5: than his pass.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as a run blocker, I'm really.

638
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Speaker 5: Impressed with some of the things I've seen from him,

639
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Speaker 5: And I think that's just probably the nature of becoming

640
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Speaker 5: an offensive tackle in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be harder when you up again.

642
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Speaker 3: You see it that way, No, I don't don't know.

643
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Speaker 3: I was got when you said it. I went, wait

644
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Speaker 3: a minute.

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Speaker 7: Now, there's things that he's done with the run block

646
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Speaker 7: and stuff, because I think in Oklahoma he didn't do

647
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Speaker 7: a lot of that has to do it a lot differently,

648
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Speaker 7: a lot differently, but here the technique and the stuff.

649
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Speaker 7: His ability to get off the ball. He had some

650
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Speaker 7: some of his best reps I thought in the move

651
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Speaker 7: the ball period was his ability to cut off or

652
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Speaker 7: to play in space.

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Speaker 3: You know, they didn't.

654
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Speaker 7: There was one time they asked him to fire off

655
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Speaker 7: the ball and the guy swam him and then he

656
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Speaker 7: had to adjust back, so it wasn't a negative play.

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 7: I think that where where I think the run blocking

659
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Speaker 7: for somebody that hasn't done it very much, I think

660
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Speaker 7: is actually good to your point, But the past, the

661
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Speaker 7: pass block and stuff, when he when he goes against

662
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 7: Parsons and tank and you're like, okay, you know, handset,

663
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 7: it's all that's together. But he kind of fell apart

664
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Speaker 7: a little bit in some of his reps yesterday that

665
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 7: I guess.

666
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 5: My question is, and this is kind of what I

667
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: was getting to more, it seems like when the bus,

668
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 5: just take your point, kind of make sure we're saying

669
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: the same thing. Though it seems like to me when

670
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: the bus happened, when the bad moments happened, they have

671
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 5: typically been in the past game not necessarily I haven't

672
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 5: seen a lot of those types of moments in the

673
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 5: run game where I'm like, oh, what was that? Well

674
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: he missed that.

675
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of those in the run game.

676
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: I've seen those more in the past game. By the way,

677
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: in the past game, I think he's been I actually

678
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: agree with you.

679
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: I think yesterday I actually came out of that feeling

680
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 5: like it was a good day for guiding, especially going

681
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 5: against someone with the skill level of Verse. But all

682
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 5: that being said, like when I see busts, they typically

683
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: happen in the past game, at least from what I've seen.

684
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, he the one time he got they tried to

685
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 7: run the ball with Zeek over in the move the

686
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 7: ball period, and they were going to try and go

687
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 7: off the right side, and he fired out and got

688
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 7: swam and then the guy went behind, went back door

689
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: and made the play.

690
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Speaker 1: You know.

691
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 7: So it's rare that he is not connected. It's rare

692
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 7: and run or pass when you watch him play. So

693
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Speaker 7: I stand your point. But I think for somebody that

694
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 7: did his run blocking to me has been surprisingly good

695
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 7: right because of that.

696
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, I but I.

697
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Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily saying it's bad. I think it's

698
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: just that's where the inexperience is showing.

699
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 3: For that that's where a lot of it is.

700
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 6: I see experience in or his past protection.

701
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily see the experience yet in the run

702
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: blocking stuff, and I think he's continuously getting better from that.

703
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: But you look at the rams film from the game

704
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: on Sunday, he looked great in pass protection. There was

705
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: a couple of things in run blocking where he was

706
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: able to guys got around him or he didn't necessarily

707
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: understand the protection set like. There were a few things,

708
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, that's that's where the inexperience

709
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: is starting to show up a little bit. And sure

710
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: that could be a product of him moving to the

711
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: left side of the line as well. I mean, that's

712
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: probably where you're gonna have to have the most adjusting

713
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 4: from going from the right to left from his perspective,

714
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: because he was still covering a blind side of the quarterback.

715
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: But going to the left side, it's a lot different

716
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: as far as outside zone stuff and trying to cover

717
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: you know, different types of defensive ends on that side

718
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: of the ball. I think for me, I still see

719
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: the inexperience showing in the run blocking.

720
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Speaker 6: That's why I am concerned when he goes up against bigger.

721
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: Defensive en you know, the season, So we're talking about

722
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett week one. I think that's a guy that

723
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: can really use his power to get around him in

724
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: the run game, whereas in the past protection he has

725
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: a really good footwork, he has really good hands. I

726
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be able to hold his own more

727
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: often than not. I mean we've seen that out here

728
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: against Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence. I think that'll translate

729
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: to the game in Week one and translate to the field.

730
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 4: It's the run blocking stuff that I do have concerns with,

731
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: and I think that trickles down the entire offensive line.

732
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Speaker 4: You know, speaking to your point earlier ago about the

733
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: run game, I think there is a big problem still

734
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: in the offensive line about creating holes, and I think

735
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: Guidan's a part of that.

736
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Speaker 6: I do. And I think will he get better as

737
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 6: the season goes on?

738
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: You would hope so, And you've seen him get better

739
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: just in the time we've been out here in Oxnard.

740
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: But I think going into Week one, there's gonna need

741
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: to be some adjusting and and different philosophies.

742
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 6: And one more points to that.

743
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: If I could you see tight end sets next to

744
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: Tyler Guidon more often than not when you're running the ball.

745
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: If they want that protection to be on that side,

746
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: they put the Brevin span forwards to the Luke Scoon

747
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: makers to Jake Ferguson's over on his side to give

748
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: him help in the run protection. That's I think that's

749
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: speaking to that inexperience and preparing for week one, week three,

750
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: week six against Detroit to have a guy next to

751
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: him whenever they do need to get after the Miles,

752
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: Garretts and the bigger defensive.

753
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 7: Do you feel with the switch to BB that they're

754
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: doing exactly what you're talking about, that they're worried so

755
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 7: much about the run offense that that putting BB instead

756
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 7: of Hoffman in there is something that they I know

757
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 7: BB's shown he could pass that and do the things

758
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 7: to play a power but do you think that they're

759
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 7: maybe thinking long term that they could run the ball

760
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 7: better with BB in there than Hoffman.

761
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: I think that's an interesting point. It depends do you

762
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: want a power guy in the middle, do you want

763
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: an athlete in the Yeah? And I think that kind

764
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: of speaks to the rest of your offensive line. You know,

765
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: what do you have up there and what do you

766
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: need right there in the middle. I think if you

767
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: asked me, you know, week week fifteen Cooper BB versus

768
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: Week one Cooper BB, it's gonna look a lot different, sure,

769
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 4: but I think you look at week one brock Hoffman

770
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: versus Week fifteen Cooper BB, and I think probably looking

771
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: at a pretty even playing field. So it's do you

772
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: want to get the reps for Cooper and do you

773
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: want to have him out here with the ones? Do

774
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: you want to start him in the middle of or

775
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: at the start of the season with the ones? I

776
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: think you're going to have to come with some growing

777
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: pains as that comes along. But unfortunately they don't have

778
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: a running back that can kind of work around growing.

779
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 6: Pains on the offensive line. But that's also don't feel

780
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 6: like they do.

781
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: That's also the question. It sounds like from what you

782
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: guys are seeing, you're saying that the offensive line is

783
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: as much a part of the problems in the run game.

784
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: Point is, do we have you had an opportunity to

785
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: really be able to evaluate the running backs If the

786
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: offensive line is really where your problem.

787
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 8: Is that's wherever in which which one is it? Because

788
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 8: sometimes I'll see it's the running back no finding the

789
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 8: freaking gap and get in in there and doing what

790
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 8: they need to do. And then other times it's like, well, dang, okay,

791
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 8: what do you expect?

792
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Like they don't the.

793
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 8: Offensive line is not creating those holes for the running back.

794
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 8: So that's where I'm having a very hard time evaluating

795
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 8: this issue as far as the running game, because it

796
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 8: is a mixture of both. Sometimes I see one doing well,

797
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 8: the other one failing, and vice versa. So I don't

798
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 8: know if you're seeing something different, Brian.

799
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: No, I mean I like what you're saying there.

800
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 7: The thing about it, I don't need Trey Lance throwing

801
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 7: the ball forty times the game, right, you know, if

802
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 7: it would, it would do my heart good. If if

803
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: Trey Lance through the ball twenty twenty five times, I'd

804
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 7: do my heart good. And those other runs, let's load up,

805
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 7: you know, let's see just kind of be committed. If

806
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 7: you're you know, if you're if you're Mike McCarthy, take

807
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: the Mike Zimmer approach and go without the play sheet,

808
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 7: just call your three base runs and and see how

809
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 7: well you can really. I just think that we don't

810
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 7: know that because we saw a guy throw the ball

811
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 7: forty times the other day. You know where maybe they

812
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 7: could have you know, maybe they could have tried some more.

813
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 7: If you keep telling us that you like Malik Davis

814
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 7: and all that. Yeah, you give him a lot of carries,

815
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 7: but give him more carries. You give him eight carries, well, heck,

816
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 7: give him fifteen carries.

817
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 6: Well you see eight carries for eighteen yards. Is that

818
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: an inspire confidence?

819
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: No, it really does.

820
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 7: But I just you know, to me, if they go

821
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 7: out there and they try to on the ball and

822
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 7: there's problems, then you can now say, okay, I've identified

823
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 7: the line is having issues. The running backs aren't fast enough,

824
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 7: they're not hitting the holes quick enough, and the tight

825
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 7: ends can't block. And Hunter Lipkey as a fullback is

826
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 7: not the answer. Those are all things I can figure

827
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 7: out if you show me that you're committed. Now we'll

828
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 7: see times when they do nine on seven out here, Well,

829
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 7: they'll pop some runs. But man throwing the ball forty

830
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 7: times the other day wasn't committed to running the football

831
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 7: or or finding out if you could, you know, run

832
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 7: the football.

833
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 6: So are they committed to finding an RB three.

834
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna give it.

835
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yes, okay, And I'm

836
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 7: saying this because I know and they're not that they

837
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 7: listen to us. Well, they do listen. That's what am

838
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 7: I saying. Hi, how are you doing? Good to see

839
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: you guys. You were doing a wonderful job.

840
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: The thing we you identified, they've identified.

841
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 7: We keep talking about positions, the tackle, the ends, we

842
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: talk about the running backs. I think that's the same

843
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 7: thing here. I think that they're looking at this and

844
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 7: they're going, is Malik we all believe, maybe I'm speaking

845
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 7: out of turn here, believe that Zeke Daddle Hunter Lipke

846
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 7: right top three? Yes, if they carry a fourth, are

847
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 7: you convinced Malik.

848
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: Davis is that guy?

849
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: No?

850
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying.

851
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: You gotta be a special teams guy.

852
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. If they're if they

853
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: if we're all believe in this, they're probably looking at

854
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 7: the same thing and saying, Okay, is is there somebody

855
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 7: at Tampa Bay or Atlanta or Miami that's better than

856
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 7: Malik Davis?

857
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: Hell?

858
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 7: Is there someone there better than Ezekiel Elliott. You know

859
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 7: that's what you really, if you're honest with yourself, that's

860
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 7: how you should evaluate this.

861
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have two RB two's leading your running back room,

862
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: which it comes with its pros, but it certainly comes

863
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: with its cons too. I mean, like I've mentioned, they

864
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: don't have a playmaker at running back, and if you

865
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: are expecting growing pains, especially on the front half of

866
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: the schedule against the defenses you're going up against, you

867
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 4: need a playmaker at that running back position.

868
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 5: At this point though in the year, do you think

869
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 5: you could find that? I mean, even if you were

870
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: trying to trade for it, I think trying to find

871
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: a real playmaker at running back maybe kind of difficult

872
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: at this point.

873
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just the guy was some twitch right,

874
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: I mean, what who would you say is the twitchiest

875
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: running back right now?

876
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: I mean, we haven't seen a whole lot of.

877
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: Deuce fall and yeah, he's there, so I but how

878
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: how much experience is he going to be able to

879
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: grab in the next week at camp. He just returned

880
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Speaker 4: to practice yesterday. He's going to have to have a

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Speaker 4: huge last two preseason games to be able to inspire

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Speaker 4: confidence there. For me, at least, I just I don't

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Speaker 4: understand where the playmaking is. Maybe they've been running him

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Speaker 4: out of the backfield a couple of times.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's a who I.

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Speaker 5: Will say this, I really believe, I really believe that

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Speaker 5: him have never been about his ability. It's just where

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Speaker 5: the hell can he stay healthy? That's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 7: So if you guaranteed me that he was going to

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Speaker 7: stay healthy for seventeen weeks, I probably wouldn't go run

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Speaker 7: grab a running back.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, like I would feel I would.

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Speaker 7: Be willing to give him the ball that But but

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Speaker 7: if you but I know there's going to be a

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Speaker 7: day where all of a sudden, we're in week six

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Speaker 7: and he's out because of an injury, and these two

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Speaker 7: weeks I'm not wishing, I'm not hoping that. I'm just

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Speaker 7: talking about, you know that things like that happen with him.

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Speaker 7: He hasn't played the ol season like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just I see him and it's been since

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Speaker 5: he got here with the Cowboys. He has these runs

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Speaker 5: where you're like, that was a really good run, and

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Speaker 5: you always kind of it's almost like you surprised yourself,

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Speaker 5: but you're like, you shouldn't be surprised at this point.

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Speaker 5: He does it pretty regularly with these nice runs, and

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Speaker 5: I think the question just becomes can he stay healthy?

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Speaker 5: That's the most important thing for Rico Downell.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take our final break.

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Speaker 5: We'll come back. Well in the show, I did have

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Speaker 5: so this this final segment we're gonna do is I

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Speaker 5: didn'ted to catch up real quick on a couple of

982
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Speaker 5: news items or Robostic left practice yesterday. Cowboys did sign

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Speaker 5: a tackle earlier, Cole Cabral. But where are they at

984
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: this point with with their offensive tackles. That's you know,

985
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Speaker 5: just the bodies are starting to dwindle a little bit.

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Speaker 5: What are you guys thinking and hearing as far as

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Speaker 5: the tackle position?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they worked out two guys yesterday morning, Cole

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Speaker 4: Cabral and then Drew Samia.

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Speaker 6: Both of these guys have experienced under Mike Zimmer.

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Speaker 4: Samia being a fourth round pick by Zimmer in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: and then in that same draft class, Cabral was an

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Speaker 4: undrafted free agent addition. Looking at Cabral, I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: just a big body that they're able to bring in

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Speaker 4: and be able to help at the offensive tackle depth position.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you see Earl bost To go down with

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Speaker 4: an injury. You see Chu Maydoga go down with an

998
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: injury earlier in the week. There's not a lot of

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Speaker 4: healthy tackle bodies, and even less healthy left tackle bodies.

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Speaker 4: Like I said earlier in the show, they shifted Josh

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Speaker 4: Ball over to the left side. He hasn't had many,

1002
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Speaker 4: if any team reps there during camp, and he just

1003
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Speaker 4: looked out of place. And you look at Matt will Letsko,

1004
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Speaker 4: He's a guy that coaches have said that they like

1005
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Speaker 4: him more on the right side of the line. So

1006
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Speaker 4: you're really just looking at Austome Richards and then Nathan Thomas.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't been at camp. He's been injured for the

1008
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Speaker 4: last week and a half. Yeah, so it's it's tough.

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Speaker 4: It's it's really tough for them to be able to

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Speaker 4: find reliable depth right now. So Cole Cabral, they add

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Speaker 4: him it's just another body. He doesn't have any NFL

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Speaker 4: game experience in the regular season, but right now they

1013
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Speaker 4: need as many bodies as possible at that position. It's

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Speaker 4: it's getting it's getting concerning because if you do get

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Speaker 4: to a situation during the season where Tyler Geidon goes

1016
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Speaker 4: down before to Manydoga can get back, you're probably looking

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Speaker 4: at musical chairs on the offensive line.

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Speaker 8: Again, question, is this an across the league type of

1019
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 8: problem or are we the only one who are always

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Speaker 8: dealing with injuries on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Somebody like Minnesota Vikings would like a word with you

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Speaker 3: in a way starting quarterback. I mean, it's a problem

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Speaker 3: we do.

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Speaker 7: We do an NFL segment every day one one, five

1025
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Speaker 7: to three of the fan and we we probably go

1026
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Speaker 7: through four or five injuries a day of major injuries

1027
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Speaker 7: on teams. So yeah, it's part of camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a way, yes, offensive line, there's not a

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Speaker 4: wealthy or a healthy amount of bodies there on the

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Speaker 4: offensive line that can be NFL caliber players that can

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Speaker 4: step in and be ready to go. I mean the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys are They have the luxury of interior depth right now,

1033
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Speaker 4: and that's that's something that not a lot of teams

1034
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Speaker 4: can say and if they do get into a pinch

1035
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Speaker 4: during the season, that interior depth could actually really help

1036
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Speaker 4: them because they have a guy named Tyler Smith who

1037
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Speaker 4: has great experience at left tackle. But yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a league wide problem. But right now, I would say

1039
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Speaker 4: the Cowboys are dealing with this problem a little bit

1040
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Speaker 4: harsher right now compared to some other teams, just because

1041
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Speaker 4: they just lost two tackle bodies rather quickly in the

1042
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Speaker 4: last in the last few days.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that you know your thing with Bostic, that's a

1044
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Speaker 7: that's a that's a bad, bad high ankle sprain that

1045
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Speaker 7: they're talking about. Probably not lost for the year, but

1046
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Speaker 7: they're gonna have to probably do some surgery there to

1047
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Speaker 7: fix that, and they use that tightrope procedure is what

1048
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Speaker 7: they now to kind of hopefully get it. Probably not

1049
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Speaker 7: lost for the year, but it's a it's a significant injury.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's that's one of those things. Tackle is a

1051
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: hard put position to replace. Not all guys have the

1052
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Speaker 5: skill to do it. Can you see a lot of

1053
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: times guys will come from college and they'll slide them

1054
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Speaker 5: to the inside. Because tackle is a very tough position

1055
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Speaker 5: to play in the NFL. All right, so we'll be

1056
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Speaker 5: back on next Tuesday. We'll wrap up this camp and

1057
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Speaker 5: kind of give you guys our opinions on what we've

1058
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Speaker 5: seen holistically throughout camp and then get Harry ready to

1059
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Speaker 5: head back to Frisco, get another week of some practices

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Speaker 5: in and then we're into the season. It's it's that time.

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Speaker 5: It's about to be cut down, cut to cut down time,

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Speaker 5: and we will get into the twenty twenty four NFL season.

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Speaker 5: Until then, for Brian brought us Amber Garcia, Nick Harris,

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