WEBVTT - 062423 The Stereotypes that Harm us All (Part 2) 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.600 And now prop my mic back like. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:08.560 We can strike. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:12.040 Head borders behind. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:11.920 In the. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.000 Just tuning in the civic cipher. I'm your host, Ramsay's jack. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.239 He is Ramsay's jaw. I am to ward. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:20.640 You got back the civic side. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:21.040 From did you? Are? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.200 That? 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.840 A lot more in store for you, so be sure 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.960 to stick around. I'm still talking about stereotypes and how 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.960 they impact our lives and shape outcomes. Are going to 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.280 be talking about protesting while black. This is a big one, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.160 uh for us, because how do we change the world 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.880 if we are not able to make our voices heard 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.040 or if that act appears criminal and the optics surrounding 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.080 it make us appear more sinister than we actually are. Listen, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:51.280 rams If you don't like it here, leave that. That's 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.600 that's that's unacceptable, because that would be me failing you, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.279 my non black brothers and sisters. You deserve better than 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.040 what you've been own. We're also going to discuss some 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.440 the roots of some stereotypes in our way black history 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.840 facts to stick around for that as well. But right 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.200 about now, let's take a break and let's talk about 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.119 becoming a better ally ba Ba. So today's Baba Baba 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.600 is sponsored by Unknown Union, the fashion how situated at 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.520 the intersection of meaning, innovation, and culture. More info checkout 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.480 Unknown Union dot com. I'm going to be reading from 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.800 Essence magazine. A skate park, A skate park sorry in California, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.600 has been named in honor of Tyree Nichols, a black 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.960 motorist who was killed in January and what prosecutors said 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.959 was a fatal beating by police in Tennessee during a 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.720 traffic stop. Obviously, we talked about Tyree Nichols, and still 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.600 talk about Tyree Nichols. I'll keep reading. Nichols, who was 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.920 an avid skateboarder, spent much of his time as a 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.640 youth at the park on the outskirts of Sacramento. City 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.720 officials and others held a ribbon cutting ceremony for the 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.919 newly renovated skate park, now named for Nichols. Associated Press 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.640 reports the twenty nine year old moved to Memphis, Tennessee, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.760 shortly before the coronavirus pandemic in twenty twenty and resided 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:14.400 with his mother and stepfather. He enjoyed past ten. He 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.720 enjoyed photography, especially taking photos of landscapes and sunsets, and 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:25.840 one of the cool things that happened. Many of you 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.960 may know that I host a podcast for iHeart and 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.919 Black Information Network. Q sometimes guest hosts on this podcast, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.280 and Q actually was able to interview Tyree Nichols's good 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.760 friend Jerome Neil Junr, who I believe was involved in 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.519 this effort, and you got to talk to him for 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:44.200 a little bit, right. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.120 Yeah, it was a difficult conversation to have because again 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.679 speaking in the past, tense about Yeah, he wasn't a kid, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.640 he was a young man, but in the very very 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.360 early sunrise of his life and so much that he 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.280 didn't get too experience again once again, because of that 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:10.200 suffix wild black, wild black, driving, skating, teaching, living, shopping, eating. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.480 When you put wild black on the end of all 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.639 of those things, we collectively understand what's coming. Yeah, what's 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.160 coming the rest of that conversation. Now listen. Okay, we're 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:26.360 going to talk about protesting now. But I don't want 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:32.280 this conversation to sound to you, our listener like. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:39.800 Woe is me. We believe that we can all be 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.840 better to each other. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.280 I think it is criminal that we have to qualify 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.320 it like yeah, but because there are people that will 0:03:49.360 --> 0:04:01.640 hear this and very apathetically, their minds will go right to, ah, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:02.360 woe is me? 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:09.280 They're always complaining and no, no, no, no, I think that's 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:15.360 that's the perfect way to kind of seg because they're 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:23.080 always complaining is often the attitude adopted by people who 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.800 want nothing to do with it? What is this? What 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:31.240 is the saying that we hear so often to the 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.800 I'm paraphrasing. I don't know if this is exactly it, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:41.359 but to the privileged, equality feels like oppression, and I 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:47.799 believe it's something like that. And so voicing our concerns 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:56.760 or complaining, as as this imaginary person might call it. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:54.800 Is. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.360 Perhaps annoying, right, and so they want what they get 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.520 often from the media, which is what we're talking about 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.600 today when it comes to protesting, which is basically an 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.240 amplified version of complaining. So I appreciate you setting me 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:19.240 up for the segue here protesting while black Now, Q 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:25.080 and I were on another radio show called The Beatlock 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.800 with a good friend of ours shout out to poke Face. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:35.840 This was a recent interview that we did and we 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.520 were asked about the origin story for this show here 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:43.080 Civic Cipher and for those that don't know the origin story. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.120 This show was based out of the protests of twenty twenty. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:48.520 Q and I would. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:53.960 Show up to the protests for obvious reasons, but also 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:59.080 at the time, Q and I were radio personalities on 0:05:59.120 --> 0:05:59.760 a hip hop station. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.480 I get we are, We're on way more hip hop 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.880 stations now, but this was our occupation. We were DJ's 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.840 radio personalities. This is kind of what we did. We 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.960 were nightclubs and we talked on the radio, right, So 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:16.640 being out there, we felt like, hey, we should probably 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.680 capture some of this magic, some of these narratives, some 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.960 of these conversations, and put it on the radio so 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.680 that we can combat the narrative that is being chronicled 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.680 by the news outlets saying that we're out rioting. These 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.279 are not riots, as illustrated by the fact that we 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.840 are here with our children, and indeed many of our 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.440 allies are here with their children as well. There's no riots, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.440 there's no smoke, there's no burning, none of this sort 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.160 of stuff. Right, But we would go home at the 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.839 end of the day and watch the news and we 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:48.479 would see that it was reported that there were riots, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:49.680 and it's like, well, that didn't happen. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.839 Very overtly splinted. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.640 Yeah, negative. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.800 Kind of violent inciting. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.920 So what would happen is police would end up cornering 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.719 certain activists and they were targeted because they had the 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.680 facial recognition stuff. And this is we're talking about our 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.600 city in Phoenix. You feel free to check this out 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:11.920 because they've had to come out and a mid all 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.600 this stuff. But they had facial recognition things that they 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.160 set up on different corners. I have a couple of 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.600 businesses downtown, so I was down there every day this 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:22.960 was happened, So I saw this stuff. They had the 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.040 sound canons and all the police presidents and all that 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.480 sort of stuff. They were targeting specific folks. I suspect 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.720 they weren't targeting me and you because of our higher 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.240 profile and our capacity to. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.360 I mean, I don't know, because our profiles are a 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:44.000 lot higher now now. I think they weren't targeting us 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.120 because the proximity to our children made us move very very. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.040 Carefully in the space. Perhaps that was it, but I 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.720 know for a fact that. But I know for a 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.000 fact that at least my name was on those people's 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:02.800 radar for being there. Again, no crimes, nothing like that. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.400 And sometimes when you're there and you look like you 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.040 there's the crime. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:13.360 Go ahead and say it. So we're telling our story, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:22.160 we're describing what's going on, and then the narrative that 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.080 we're seeing on the news is that it's criminal activity. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.880 The police were picking off protesters here and there. They'd 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.560 turn the wrong corner or be going to their car 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:36.760 or whatever, and then the police would swoop in. Other 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.840 folks would see it and try to go and help 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.840 and protect, because again, you got to understand the climate 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.040 of the country at that time. You see police running 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.280 after someone black, immediately you're like, oh my god, the 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.240 worst could happen. This happened to us when we were 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.000 pulled over in Mississippi. Everybody people were crying because they 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.360 were fearing the worst about what could have happened to 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.679 us based on what they were seeing our Internet of 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:05.600 our interaction with the police. Now, parts of those clips 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.720 were being shared and then it was, like you said, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.400 they were kind of skewing the conversation in such a 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.760 way to suggest that the protests were unsafe. The police 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.559 and the protesters were fighting somehow, which isn't true. The 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.520 police have guns, protesters have bullhorns. It's not the same. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.000 You know what, I mean, But this is kind of 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.240 what helps the media keep the viewership of the people 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.000 who really want it to be true that black people 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.120 are always complaining and that, you know, the people that 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:42.120 have the privilege to whom equality feels like oppression. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.840 But you know, the really interesting thing is, even for 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.280 those who are the most cynical of our position and 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.800 really really feel like, you know, like again, whatoe was 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.640 me and you guys are always complaining, how our law 0:09:55.760 --> 0:10:00.120 enforcement responds, it's very very telling, you know. So the 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.400 people are probably wondering about the wild black part, especially 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.120 considering so many of the protesters here were not black, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.840 except the cause they were standing for was real black, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:17.960 very black, and therein lies the difference, even quote unquote 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.600 their own are treated the way that we're treated if 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:27.160 you're standing up for us. And the largest example was 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:32.560 January sixth, because prior to that, when the idea was 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.800 Black Lives Matter, protesters will be present, the police militarized 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:42.320 themselves tanks, riot gear and came out in recognition and 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.199 came out in mass I'm not even talking about the technology. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.400 I'm talking about the physical president with big guns and 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:55.040 big guns and full gear who make sure we didn't 0:10:55.080 --> 0:11:00.680 show up and harm any property. January sixth, a date 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.000 that they were made privy was coming. They were told 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.320 we're gonna go, not just show up, we're gonna go 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:17.600 take over, and they were conspicuously absent. Because white supremacy 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:24.640 has a very hard time checking white supremacy a very 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:25.319 hard time. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:32.040 And that's a bar. All right, let me give you this. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:42.400 So we're talking about riots. We're talking about protesting that 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.560 are described as riots and then fed to the masses, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.000 and these things helped shape public opinion, and this is 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:56.400 what leads to stereotypes. Okay, doctor King, he's known for 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:02.000 his non violent, peaceful protests, his marches, right, he's known 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:07.720 for that. Now he is not known for that. When 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.319 he was doing he. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.800 Was known for it then, he just wasn't celebrated for it. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.840 Okay, that's a good way to say it. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.160 However, it's infamous for his marches house speech, sure when 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:17.720 he was alive. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:22.080 So watch this. There would be let's say he did 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:28.360 five marches. There might be a skirmish between the protesters 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.640 and the police at two of them, and in our 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.959 estimation it was probably provoked by the police. But that's 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:36.960 all that's necessary. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.439 For this time, I do mean to cut my brother 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.800 off because of his grace. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.240 I love Ramses. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:54.360 He said that those skirmishes were probably yes, I paused 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.800 on purpose, that Mike did not get up. Those skirmishes 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:03.320 were probably started or instigated by the police. There's video, people, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.880 we don't have to use probable right, I guess we 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.480 have to. You know, what are they say in court 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.160 allegedly even when. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.640 They have videos? 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.400 So yeah, I'm going to say those skirmishes, skirmishes, sorry, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:21.480 were allegedly started by the police and their dogs and 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.560 fire hosers and billy clubs. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:33.920 And yeah. So while he was alive, folks like to 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:41.120 challenge that narrative that he was a peaceful, benevolent leader 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:47.040 type of individual, hence his twenty percent approval rating among 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.640 white Americans and critically his twenty percent approval rating among 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:59.440 Black Americans. Right, so stereotypes can't affect black people as well. Now, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.559 of course we know the end of that story. Doctor 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.920 King is, as you mentioned, Q celebrated for his non 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:11.160 violent approach to changing at least that time in American 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.720 history or the better for marginalized people. Right. But it 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.560 wasn't until after his death that the government took it 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.680 seriously and actually changed some living what might have been. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.360 It wasn't Nixon. What's his name? I can't think of 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.560 his name anyway, one of the presidents changed the laws 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.640 after his death because there were so many eruptions around 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:45.680 the country after that, so protests. Doctor King said that 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:53.320 a riot is the language of the unheard. Now there 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.440 are people that push back and say, listen, you need 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:03.160 to be patient. You guys need to be patient. These 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.560 things move slowly. The wheels of society turned very slowly. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.640 This is a long road. I say that I occupy 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.040 a different space, but yes, you do. Yeah, I occupy 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.920 a different space. But I can say that because I'm 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.800 indeed marching on that road. Someone else in a position 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.480 of power cannot say that to me because they don't 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.600 get to define what justice should be like or how 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.080 long it should take. And I want to quote James Baldwin. Actually, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.240 do me favorite. You can read the James Baldwin quote, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.440 because I know you love this one. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.840 I might get this quote tattooed because I do love it. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.360 And it is a quote that Ram is laughing as 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.600 he says he knows I love it. Because Rams encourages 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.320 me and reminds me that this is a that this 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.760 progress is slow, and that we should be patient and 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.880 one step at a time, and YadA, YadA, yad. And 0:15:54.920 --> 0:16:01.800 this incremental approach to this progress that could over by 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.520 way of legislation, just be changed is insulting to me. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.960 James Baldwin said, and I quote it has taken my 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:18.280 father's time, my mother's time, my uncle's time, my brother's time, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:25.120 and my sister's time, my nieces and nephew's time. How 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:31.600 much time do you want for your progress right the 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:37.560 multiple lifetimes of our ancestors. We've already given that time. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:42.520 You've already taken that time. In what world do we 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.680 get where we're going? Do I pass away knowing or 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.080 having some type of understanding that for my grandchildren things 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.840 will be different, that things will be better. That's still 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:55.360 a question. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.360 I think I'm going to add to it that you're 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.440 saying that it is possible to change overnight. So I 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:07.640 think that that statement in and of itself suggests more 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.280 than suggests that it is very possible to make huge 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.679 sweeping changes, not just in terms of laws, but in 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.520 terms of public opinion and how we interact with each 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.280 other over the course of a lifetime to where a 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.760 person could see the world is in a much better 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.240 place than it was when we started. Hence my frustration. Sow, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.320 I'm with you, So watch this now. We talked about 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:40.000 protesting because often enough, protesting is the language that we 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:47.280 have that is has been relatively consistent in terms of 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.800 our plight, in terms of our arsenal toward achieving a 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.560 more equitable America. Let me say what I'm gonna say, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:18:02.200 watch this when we want to vote, sometimes that's taken 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:09.639 away from us. There I countless black men permanently disenfranchised 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:17.000 because they've been they're convicted felons. We could talk about 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:23.760 that that is almost grotesquely unfair, but permanently disenfranchised. We 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:30.440 can talk about access to voting. We can talk about jerrymandering, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.120 weakening the strength of the black person's vote, which weakens 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.239 the value of the black person's experience in terms of 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.520 input to the relative to the overall American experience. Right, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.399 And so protesting is kind of that last vestige, that 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:53.119 last tool that many people feel like they have, and 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:57.640 for that to then be villainized and conflated with rioting 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.960 is exceptionally unfair and it's based on stereotypes that I 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.320 do want to challenge. Now, I want you to jump 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.560 in right here, but I got some examples. It will 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.320 help me challenge this idea of what a protest is. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.199 God, I guess my problem is more with the idea 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.840 that protesting is somehow still a vehicle for us. I 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:15.600 don't think it is. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.200 Now. We do it kind of a lot of a duty. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:19.080 There's no outcome. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.640 We don't leave city Hall after our protests, and then 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.119 they text us like okay, you guys came out. We 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.960 heard you, Like, no, that doesn't happen, right, So it's 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.119 more a symbol of solidarity in a way for us 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.640 to err our a grievances and our frustrations amongst each other. 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.679 The lawmakers and the policy makers, they don't come out 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.919 to these protests, listen to our plight here, our points, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.480 take that back to their body and make changes based 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.960 on that anymore. And once upon a time, I think 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.440 the idea of a protest was so scary, right, there 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:55.720 would be in some cases like boycotts and strikes. There 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.280 are fiscal damages that happen. People lose money and they 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.760 respond to that. But that's just going up in mass 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.679 upset does not tend to really move the needle like 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:04.320 it once did. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:10.320 Now, I'm not going to disagree with you, but I 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.480 can't wholly agree with you there. I think that there 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.840 may still be some value. But critically, if you have 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:23.359 no other form of representation in terms of the government, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.399 then showing up with your person and the sign is 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.639 not nothing. Sitting at home is nothing. 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.479 I did not say it was nothing, right, and I 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.280 also did not say it didn't have value. Yeah, it's 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.480 just not the vehicle that it once was. Sure that 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.000 you can quantify that. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.720 Yeah, I want to make sure that because I, like 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.159 I said, I'm not going to disagree with you, but 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:43.159 I want to make sure. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.760 That we say that for our listen, it has qualitative value, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:47.000 not quantitative. 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.919 Now here's what I want to do for folks that 0:20:52.280 --> 0:21:01.160 take issue with riots. First off, earlier we're talking about 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:05.600 you know, uh, shopping while black right and and how 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:13.280 stereotypes work, the the the stereotypes that black people steal right. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:20.520 But the truth is that that other people steal from 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:27.840 black people culture. Of course, liberty as I mentioned, right 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.880 to vote, access to you know, representation, et cetera. 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:33.600 Wealth. 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:41.160 This country story is littered with massacres, riots and legislation 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:47.520 and so forth, terrorism, black codes, Jim Crow redlining, the 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:57.280 g I Bill, et cetera, of stealing wealth from black people, stealing. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.479 Very intentionally to not just happenstance. Weren't collateral damage, we 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:02.520 were the target. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:09.880 Yeah, to take from us, right, life, stealing life from us. 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.359 We talk about black life being snuffed out all the 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.840 time and people getting away with it with no consequence. 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.120 Of creation intellectual property. 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.520 But even if it's not go on, even if we're 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.280 not talking about murder, we just talked about the prison 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:30.720 industrial complex. People get sentenced unfairly in this country. It's 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:36.399 stealing life. Okay. Now black people have the stereotype, but 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.000 I don't think that that's entirely fair. I'm going to 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.919 make another point here, like people have a stereotype of 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:47.200 being aggressive rioters when we're protesting. So I'm gonna read 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:53.320 some stuff about riots for sports teams around the country 0:22:53.400 --> 0:23:00.639 that celebrated or I guess rioted after this form of 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.639 celebrations or of loss. I'm just read these just so 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.040 you know, and I want you to ask yourself, why 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:13.800 is there no stereotype that these people riot? But why 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.800 is there a stereotype to black people. I'm gonna read 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.760 Denver Nuggets. Obviously they won the national championship recently. This 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.240 was a couple weeks ago, maybe two hours later. Thousands 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.760 went to McGregor Square and destroyed it. In Boston in 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.240 two thousand and four, two thousand and seven, and twenty 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.640 and thirteen, the Red Sox was the baseball team. Everybody 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.800 got out there and rioted all three of those years. Boston, Okay, Detroit. 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:42.040 Nineteen eighty four, Detroit has a team called Tigers. They 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.439 probably played some cool sport. And then the Detroit Tigers 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.400 are a baseball team. Ooh, that's what I was on, 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.199 all right. And then nineteen ninety the Detroit Pistons. That's 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.800 a basketball team. I know them. In twenty eleven, the 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:58.679 Vancouver Canucks lost the twenty eleven Stanley Cup to the 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.359 Boston Bruins, and fans trashed parts of the city, causing 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.959 millions of dollars in damage. Philadelphia Eagles they ride all 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.640 the time in Philly. Chicago. In nineteen ninety one through 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.960 ninety three, that was basketball. Denver in ninety six the 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.760 Avalanche is the hockey team. Ninety eight the Broncos ninety nine, 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.359 two thousand and one, the Avalanche hockey team again and 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.080 in Cleveland in nineteen seventy four baseball team. All Right, 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.760 sit with it. It's sound for the way Black History 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.439 Effect sponsored by Underground Beach Club from the streets to 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.360 the beach, the finest in beach where visit Underground Beachclub 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.120 dot com. Today I'll be reading from the National Museum 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.840 of African American History and Culture slash the Smithsonian. Shout 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.320 out to our people over at the Smithsonian for working 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.920 with us all the time. We're discussing widespread and pervasive 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:47.879 stereotypes of African Americans. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:48.359 All right. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.200 Stereotypes of African Americans grew as a natural consequence of 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.360 both scientific racism and legal challenges to both their personhood 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.639 and citizenship. In the eighteen fifty seven Supreme Court case 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:05.080 tread Scott versus John F. A, Sandford, Chief Justice Roger B. 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.119 Taney discussed the humanness of those of African descent. This 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.440 legal precedent permitted the image of African Americans to be 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:17.960 reduced to caricatures in popular culture. Decades old ephemera and 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:22.600 current day incarnations of African American stereotypes, including Mammy, Mandingo, sapphire, 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.440 Uncle Tom, and watermelon, have been informed by the legal 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.160 and social status of African Americans. Many of the stereotypes 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.120 created during the height of the Transatlantic slave trade were 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.760 used to help commodify black bodies and justify the business 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.080 of slavery. For instance, an enslaved person forced under violence 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.400 to work from sunrise to sunset could hardly be described 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:46.720 as lazy, Yet laziness, as well as characteristics of submissiveness, backwardsness, lewdness, treachery, 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.560 and dishonesty historically became stereotypes assigned to African Americans. The 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.920 Maimi stereotype developed as an offensive racial caricature constructed during 0:25:55.920 --> 0:26:00.280 slavery and popularized primarily through minstrel shows in sad slave 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.959 Black women were highly skilled domestic workers working in the 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.800 homes of white families and caretakers for their children. The 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.840 trope painted a picture of domestic workers who had undying 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:16.320