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Speaker 1: Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Stanley being

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Speaker 1: with us. His book is called Immortal Life. Stanley, is

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Speaker 1: it conceivable that in the future we will have something,

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Speaker 1: let's say, connected to the back of our heads, almost

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Speaker 1: like a plug, and then they can just click in

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Speaker 1: and download and upload and do whatever they need to

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Speaker 1: do to us. Yeah, well, I think they're doing it now,

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Speaker 1: except it's with an external object your phone. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're down there down loading automatically doing downloads to things

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Speaker 1: when you have approved it. Um, you know, they're aware

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Speaker 1: of what you like and don't like you mean, when

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Speaker 1: you do Netflix, it says there's a you know, sixty

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Speaker 1: percent chance you're going to like this movie. That's based

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Speaker 1: on their knowledge of you as a viewer. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going on constantly, and that's

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Speaker 1: why people want you to use all these websites. They

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Speaker 1: take your you know, your your financial information, they take

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Speaker 1: your personal preferences. That's all being stored by all the

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Speaker 1: companies that that we deal with every day. They're they're

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Speaker 1: learning more about us every day. And um, you know,

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Speaker 1: so right now that's happening with an external object, which

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Speaker 1: is your phone. But I don't think certainly they're not

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Speaker 1: going to need wires to do it. Everything is wireless

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Speaker 1: at this point. Everything goes from right from the cloud

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Speaker 1: to you and uh, that's a link up that's going

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Speaker 1: to only get stronger and stronger. Um, you know as

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Speaker 1: time goes by and we've been come more and more

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Speaker 1: dependent on our communications hardware. And that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that I think about the book a bit, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, people used to sit and talk, and people

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Speaker 1: used to sit and have their own thoughts, and now

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Speaker 1: it really is very uncommon to see people sitting without

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Speaker 1: looking at a screen, and if you imagine that that

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Speaker 1: it's going to have images coming pouring into your head

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Speaker 1: at all times of the day and night. And I

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Speaker 1: think the implications for people, the way people talk to

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Speaker 1: each other and relate to each other are are, you know,

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Speaker 1: very profound. So your question is a great one that

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Speaker 1: they're going to and by day, I mean, we the

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Speaker 1: companies that we all work for, will have tremendous access

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Speaker 1: to us, to what we want, to what we don't want, that,

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Speaker 1: what we like, and what we need. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's very possible that you'll be sitting in

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Speaker 1: will come by, you know, a little little airplane of

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Speaker 1: some kind and inform you that you know you're at

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Speaker 1: a razor blades. Yeah, no, I think you're right. You

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Speaker 1: know what is remarkable to these days? I am fascinated

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Speaker 1: by GPS. I mean, with your phone or with whatever

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Speaker 1: they even talk to you. A voice comes on and

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Speaker 1: says turn left in a quarter mile. Who would have

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Speaker 1: thought that a few years ago? Lady doing that for me, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of that a few years ago. It's amazing. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: During the fires in California, I heard that they had

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Speaker 1: that came earlier in your show, Um, your excellent computer

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Speaker 1: analyst Fellow was talking about how Um that the designers

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Speaker 1: What about information overdrive Stanley? Can we get too much? Definitely?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a case to be made

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Speaker 1: that that really don't have any bearing on your life.

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Speaker 1: Were terribly informed on a moment to moment basis. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I have these alerts on

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Speaker 1: people read less. I think people talk about ideas less.

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Speaker 1: replacing it with a lot of factoids and garbage that, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Internet makes tremendously available to us. It's very seductive.

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting to hear, you know, about the latest

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, how does that really in

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Speaker 1: the long run enrich our lives at all? You know, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the in our days, you're you're younger

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Speaker 1: than I am. In in our days that much younger

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Speaker 1: than many people. I mean, we would get our breaking

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Speaker 1: been assassinated. Um, nowadays, you're right, I mean, now on

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Speaker 1: your smartphone, instantly, you'll get all kinds of news, whether

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Speaker 1: it's it's instant, and it's right at our fingertips, and

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Speaker 1: some of it is news, and some of it is

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Speaker 1: mean the effect of Twitter on our culture has been

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Speaker 1: I think, very corrosive and very bad. Twitter is very fun,

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Speaker 1: you know, to to kind of use if it's it's

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Speaker 1: I think if you do a Google search on the

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Speaker 1: phrase Twitter is outraged, you would find like forty trillion

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Speaker 1: there's there's madness everywhere. Well, let me ask you a

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Speaker 1: point where we create new bodies, download memory, consciousness, what

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Speaker 1: that it goes to heaven, it goes to Hell, or

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Speaker 1: whatever happens to it, how would a soul be attached

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Speaker 1: central question of this book, but also of all such

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Speaker 1: discussions about life extension and about you know, this kind

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Speaker 1: of immortality. I think it's quite possible that you could

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Speaker 1: in the future download much of what you would recognize

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Speaker 1: to whether the soul would come with it. That's what

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Speaker 1: that you would transfer a person and that would be

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Speaker 1: a person, but it wouldn't be the person that you

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Speaker 1: whatever that is that made that person what they were,

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Speaker 1: that does not get transferred electronically because it's not in

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Speaker 1: the electronics. Well, you know, I know people who are happy,

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Speaker 1: go lucky for example. Um, maybe that personality trait does

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Speaker 1: new system. And so you look at somebody and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, that looks like Bill. It acts like Bill

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's not laughing like Bill. It

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Speaker 1: Stephen King once wrote a book called Pet Cemetery. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they he brought back to life you beloved Pet. Except

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Speaker 1: it's not the same thing. It's not the same pet.

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Speaker 1: It's got a little evil to it. It really well,

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Speaker 1: it's Stephen King, we're talking about it but but I

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't. This is not a book that says, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to all of this, you know.

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Speaker 1: we want to live in the future that we're creating

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Speaker 1: for ourselves? I mean, that's the central question, you know.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to live in a future where everything

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Speaker 1: and anticipated and say, hey, you're going to love this movie,

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Speaker 1: or hey, you're going to love this person? You know,

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Speaker 1: who knows the idea of living forever, however, has its moments.

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen in two hundred years. Well, as

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Speaker 1: long as you're comfortable, still, right, you want to be comfortable,

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Speaker 1: which which speaks to the need to kind of figure

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Speaker 1: out how to transfer your consciousness as opposed to how

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Speaker 1: to give yourself a new leg exactly, you know. And

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Speaker 1: what about social security that's already over zapped? Yeah, how's

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Speaker 1: how's it gonna how's it gonna pay people? If you're

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Speaker 1: if you're around forever, Well, we're moving into into an

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Speaker 1: era where, um, enormous corporations begin to take on the

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Speaker 1: role that government once did, and I wonder whether the

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