1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey, fam, Hello Sunshine. Today, on the bright side, we 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: have a Hollywood actress who has seen the industry in 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: almost every decade. OSCAR nominated actor and star of the 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: new movie Thelma June Squib is here. At ninety four 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: years old. She's taking on her very first leading role. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: And get this, she's an action star. You won't want 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to miss her incredible stories of perseverance and pearls of wisdom. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: It's Monday, August twelfth. I'm Danielle Robe. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Simone Boyce, and this is the bright Side 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: to share women's stories, laugh, learn and brighten your day. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: All Right, it's Monday, Danielle. Let's kick things off with 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: On My Mind Monday, our opportunity to share stories that 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: motivate us, inspire curiosity, and provide a fresh perspective for 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: the week. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: What you got today? 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So you know everybody's been talking about a brat summer, right, Yes, well, 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: you almost can't get away from it on the internet. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: But did you know that this is not our first 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: brat summer? 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: Really tell me more. 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Okay, before I tell you about the past version, I 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 1: think we have to talk about where this one came from, 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: just so we're all on the same page, because the 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: origin of this summer's hottest word, brat comes from the 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: singer Charlie XCX. She had this hit album called Brat, 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: which came out on June seventh, and it quickly became 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: one of the most talked about albums of the summer. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: And then when Kamala Harris announced that she was running 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: for president as a Democratic nominee, Charlie XCX tweeted, Kamala 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: is brat, So it took on this whole political meaning. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: But everybody was like, what does what does a brat mean? 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: What does brat Summer mean? So Charlie XCX describes the 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: concept of brat Summer to be all about being that 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: girl who's a little messy and likes to party and 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: maybe says some dumb things sometimes and is also very 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: honest and very blunt. And when it comes to fashion, 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: brat Summer is all about that nea lime shartchuse green. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: It's about aerial fonts and white tanks and baby teas. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: That's the Y two K of it all. That's the 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: y two K portion exactly. That's so well said, well 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: this summer. The word bratt has galvanized this sense of 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: community and belonging and saying brat, I think has made 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: everybody feel like they're a part of something. 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: And here's what I find interesting. I came across this 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: article in the UK publication The Standard, and it lays 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: out these summer trends throughout history. So this article is 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: saying that naming these summers kind of started in the 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: sixties because that was the summer of love. It was 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: all about peace and love and music. And then there 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: was the og Bratt Summer, which dates back to the 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, and it was when this group of young 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: actors known as the Brat Pack began to dominate the 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: coming of age teen movie genre. You remember that, yeah, 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: of course, like the Summer of the Brat Pack was 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Emilio Estevez and Rob Low and Molly Ringwold. It was 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: that era. 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: It was Breakfast, Claus Saint almost Fire. 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Sixteen Candles exactly. And then, of course, if we fast 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: forward to current day, twenty nineteen was the Hot Girl 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: summer that took off. It was inspired by Megan the 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Stallion's hit by the same name. There was even kind 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: of this funny one in twenty twenty one called hot 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Vax Summer aka the summer after the vaccine started being 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: available and people were social again, like taking selfies with 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: their vax cards. But this whole idea of naming summers, 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: they seem particularly guided toward women. What do you think 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: that is. 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: I think that just speaks to the economic power that 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: we know that women have. I mean, we saw women consumers, 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: female consumers make huge waves in the economy over the 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: past year or so, between Barbie and Beyonce's tour and 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's tour. So I think at the end of 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: the day, advertisers know that having a catchy, memorable, sticky 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: name for a period of our lives where we all 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: feel connected is actually going to make them more money, 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, if they can hop on this trend and 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: sell products to us under this label. 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean it makes sense. 80 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: That's funny. I think of it more community based. I 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: feel like it gives us this timestamp, like you talked 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: about Barbie and Beyonce and Taylor Swift, like that music 83 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: or a certain look or an outfit. It takes us 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: back to a spirit of something that we felt at 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the time. And I almost think speaking of Barbie. It's 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: like reclaiming femininity and redefining it for whatever moment we're in. 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: So I like your take much better. 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: I actually, I actually think that us coming up with 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: these cute little names for our summer experiences. I think 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: that just speaks to how joyful we are too. Yeah, 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: like the fact that I mean, it's no secret that, 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: like in summer week experience improved mood and mental health benefits, 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: and so I think that this just speaks to like 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: the overall excitement that people feel during It's a real phenomenon. 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: I agree. But the aspect that I find so interesting 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: is that it's particularly female, and I almost feel like 97 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: it's reclamation, Like by naming it something, we're redefining what 98 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: femininity means at that time on our own terms, and 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: so no one can tell you you're not having a 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: bratgirl summer exactly. 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: You know. 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: It's powerful. 103 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like an embrace of our identity. 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm not sure men have the same thing. 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Men need to have more fun. Y'all need to y'all 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: need more to things. You need more things, You need 107 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: more cute names for things. Y'all need to have more fun. Okay, 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: loosen up well. 109 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Speaking of women defining moments over time, our guest today 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: is doing just that. I mean, it might as well 111 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: be June's Squib Summer, because, at ninety four years old, 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: June is the leading lady of the new Jerry Action 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: comedy film Thelma, and this role marks her first ever 114 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: leading role in her decades long career Jerry Action. 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, June Squib really is the epitove 116 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: me of never giving up on yourself. She started her 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: acting career over seventy years ago, first on stages on 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Broadway and then auditioning for film and TV roles, especially 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: with the encouragement of her second husband, who was an 120 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: acting teacher. She's best known for her Oscar nominated role 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: in Alexander Payne's movie Nebraska, where she played a family matriarch, 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: and in her most recent role in Thelma, she plays 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: a mischievous ninety three year old woman who gets scammed 124 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: and goes on a mission to reclaim the ten thousand 125 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: dollars that was stolen from her by someone pretending to 126 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: be her grandson. 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: She even did a lot of her own stunts, which 128 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: just blows my mind. And for all of our Inside 129 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 2: Out fans out there. June Squib actually voiced the character 130 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: nostalgia in Inside Out too, and people, there are no 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: signs of this woman slowing down anytime soon, because later 132 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: this year she'll be starring in Eleanor the Great Scarlett 133 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: Johanson's directorial debut, Hot Eyes on that one. 134 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait to chat with her about her career 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and ask her for some of her reflections. So after 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: the break, we're talking Hollywood through the decades and balancing 137 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: the love of your craft with the love of a partner. 138 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: All that up next, June, Welcome to the bright Side. 139 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. 140 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how excited Simone and I were 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: to have you here. We're so grateful that you came 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: in person and shared your time with us. 143 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 5: Lovely, No, I enjoy this. 144 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: So we want to start out with something really serious. 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: It sounds like you have a big beef with a 146 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: movie star named Glenn Powell. 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: He's gorgeous. 148 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna play a quick clip from your Instagram. 149 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 5: Okay, hey Glenn Powell, you think you're so cool with 150 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: your big fancy Twisters movie. Oh I could kick your ass. 151 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: So what's going on there, dude. Is this like the 152 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: type of thing where someone's so cute that you have 153 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: to make fun of them. 154 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: No, not really. It was like, just prove to everybody 155 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 5: that you're an action star. That's what it's all about. 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I like that. 157 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: It's so I went up. I guess every action star 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 5: we could think of. 159 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: That's funny, very funny. 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Well, you have proven yourself to be an action star 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: through and through because in your latest project, Thelma, you. 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: Play a grandma on a mission. 163 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Thelma is determined to track down the criminals who scammed 164 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: her and retrieve her money. And I'm sitting here watching 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: this film. It's so entertaining, and yet I'm struck by 166 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: the fact that storylines like this are so rare. How 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: does it feel to know that you and everyone behind 168 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: this film are literally helping pioneer a new genre, which 169 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: the internet is calling jerry action film. 170 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't heard that. That's wonderful. Well, I think 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: we have to give Josh Margolin a great deal of 172 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 5: applause for this. It was his idea and he directed it, 173 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 5: so he was the leader while we were shooting the film, 174 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: and I'm very, very very proud of it. I am 175 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: very proud of it. But I must say, when I 176 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 5: read that script, I thought I've got to do this. 177 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: The script was really wonderful. He's a great writer. So 178 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what to say. I'm thrilled. We're all 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: giddy with what has happened to the film because everybody's 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: loving it. 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: I can sense the pride in your voice when you 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: talk about it. Why are you so proud of this one? 183 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: Well, I'm in my nineties, so to be doing a 184 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: film about a ninety year old and to realize that 185 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: in my nineties, I'm doing the lead role in a 186 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: film that's doing well, that people are seeing that everybody's 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 5: liking a lot, So that's exciting. 188 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just making a film number one, it's like 189 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: it's like huge congratulations are in order because it's such 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: an impossible feat. Then to make a film that people like, 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: that's a whole other thing. And then to make a 192 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: film that people are enjoying when you're in your nineties. 193 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: It's such a beautiful story too. You actually do your 194 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: own stunts in this film. How would you rate the 195 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: process of doing your own stunts out of ten? 196 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Would you do it again? 197 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah? Now, when you get to my age. Every 198 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: year makes a difference, so I think it would be 199 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: harder for me to do some of them, But there's 200 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 5: a lot I could still do. 201 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: I think, what were some of the most thrilling stunts 202 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: to film? 203 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 204 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: Driving that scooter? That was I knew when I read 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: the script that this was gonna be great fun, and 206 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: it was. It was. And then with Richard behind me 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 5: all the time, Shafts sitting there behind me on the scooter. 208 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: Now, you've dedicated your life to the craft of acting. 209 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I have the numbers here. You've been in for twenty 210 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: five films, over thirty five TV shows, countless Broadway shows. 211 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I would venture to say you've been a part of 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: over eighty productions. Oh, I'm sure it could be more 213 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: than that. Honestly, how does it feel to be starring? 214 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned a leading lady? How does it feel to 215 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: be starring in a film? 216 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't feel any different. I look at each 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: script the same way. Do I want to do it? 218 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 5: Is there something in there that makes this woman interesting 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: to me? And I never think in terms of how 220 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: big the role is or what it's going to mean. 221 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 5: It's what the script is telling me. 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Really, if you feel called to it. 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I have said this that if Josh had 224 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: given me this script it said come on work for 225 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: one day, I probably would have done it because it 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 5: impressed me so his writing and the script what he. 227 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Was saying, Yeah, this character that you play Filma is 228 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: not only just taking us on this wild ride, but 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: she's also serving up some really important lessons that I 230 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: think moviegoers today and just everyone in our society needs 231 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: to see. And at the core of one of those 232 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: big lessons is this idea that she's underestimated by her family, 233 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: especially at her age. I'm really curious if you have 234 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: ever felt underestimated in your career. 235 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: Oh god, yes, yes, of course. 236 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: When do you think you felt most underestimated? 237 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: Well, when I auditioned for something. When you're young, you're 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: auditioning constantly, and it's you know, do you think you 239 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 5: really can do this role, because prove to me that 240 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: you can. Yeah, that's what you're being told, yeah, constantly, 241 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: and then things happen and you don't get it, and 242 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: oh my god, sometimes that's very painful. 243 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: There's this moment in the movie. I'd venture to say 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: it's my favorite quote. You say, there comes a time 245 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: in life when you can't listen to anyone but yourself. 246 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 5: I've always felt that. I've always sort of thought, even 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 5: when I was a kid, I fought what was supposed 248 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: to be. It was like, why do I have to 249 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 5: do what somebody else tells me to do. I've had 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: that with me forever. 251 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: How did that show up when you were a young actress? Audition? 252 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 253 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I did? 254 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: I did strange things. 255 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Tell me, what do you mean? 256 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: Well? I remember this one audition and I had worked 257 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: for the director before, and he said, just come in 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: and sing, and you've got the job. Don't ask me 259 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 5: why I did this. I went in and sang the 260 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: Battle him a Republic as an audition. So I mean, 261 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: that's really ridiculous. Then I decided I will not look 262 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: at them. I will look to the side and up. Well, 263 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: there was this awful silence when I got through. I 264 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: walked out of the room and this director chased me out. 265 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: I said, what in the f were you doing in there? 266 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 5: And I said, well, I was doing my audition. He says, 267 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: you just lost your job. But I would do and 268 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: it never occurred to me that I'm was supposed to 269 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: be doing something else. 270 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Jusie do you think that's a secret to your longevity 271 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: in this industry, your contrarian spirit. 272 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: It might be I'm very stubborn and if I decide 273 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: I'm going to do something, I do it. 274 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: Hey, we can all use a little bit more of that. 275 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: No, but I think that is a lot of it, 276 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: because I think you have to be determined. You have 277 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: to be so I think you have to get anywhere 278 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: in this business anyway. 279 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, especially thinking about how much the industry has changed 280 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: since you started performing in this industry, and how yes, 281 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: we still have some more work to do, more progress 282 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: to be done, but it is much more open. There 283 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: are more opportunities for women. Now, how have you seen 284 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: the opportunities available to women change over the course of 285 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: your career in Hollywood. 286 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: I don't know that I've seen women. I've seen age, 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: though age certainly has changed tremendously. I feel. What do 288 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: you mean by that, Well, the fact that I'm doing 289 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: a leading role in my nineties. I shot another leading 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: role in my nineties after this one, which will be 291 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: coming out next year, and that just isn't done. Yeah, 292 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: but they're writing, they're writing for this now. There's an 293 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: interest in age, there's an interest in how an older 294 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 5: person maneuvers in life. You know, how they live their life. 295 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: Do you see that when you are reading the scripts 296 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: that come across your desk. 297 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: Well, I only get them if there's a over a 298 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: ninety year old in so I don't really see that many. 299 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: But what I see is kind of wonderful. I mean 300 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 5: the fact that I've had two leading roles coming up 301 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: of a ninety year old that just did not happen. 302 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: And I think also we have a lot of wonderful 303 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: actresses in their fifties sixties still doing leading, really leading 304 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: lady roles, and that's amazing me. Every time I see. 305 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: You, it's amazing. June. Okay, we have to take a 306 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: quick break, but we'll be right back with more from 307 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: the ninety four year old star of Thelma, June Squib. 308 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: And we're back with more pearls of Wisdom from Oscar 309 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: nominated actress June Squib. 310 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: You have an upcoming role in Scarlett Johansson's directorial debut 311 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: about a woman who decides to relocate at the age 312 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: of ninety after losing her best friend. I just learned 313 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: that you relocated at the age of eighty four, so 314 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: you kind of know what that feels like. When I 315 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: think about friendships. As you're coming up in Hollywood, you 316 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: said you lived with a friend as well. They bring 317 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: so much to our lives. Is there a girlfriend whose 318 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: friendship has been really enduring for you? 319 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? I would say there are two women who I've 320 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: known for years, and I'm very close to both of them. 321 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 5: The Evette Freeman, who is an actress and a director. 322 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: She's directing more now, and Kitty McMillan. And Kitty actually 323 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 5: was a part of the group that helped me through 324 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 5: the award season on Nebraska because she worked for my 325 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: agent at the time. But I've known her for years 326 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: from years back in New York. 327 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: That's fun when work in friendship cross is over. Yeah, 328 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: that's special. 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: I also should mention I have a wonderful assistant, Kelly Sweeney, 330 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: who's younger. She's in her fifties. I have her as 331 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 5: a close friend. I always think of that as a 332 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 5: little different because of the age. The other two women 333 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 5: are much closer than my actual age. Strangely enough, I 334 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: have other young friends. Chris Colfer I met during Glee 335 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: and we became bonded at the hip and have been 336 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 5: ever since. And that was probably I don't know, over 337 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 5: fifteen years ago that I met him, I suppose. And 338 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: Fred Heckinger, who is from Thelma, we became very close. 339 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: He lives in New York, but when he's in LA 340 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 5: I always see him. He comes over for dinner or 341 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: lunch or whatever. 342 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: Who cooks. 343 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: I don't cook, I mean it's brought in. Usually. I 344 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: have someone for my complex that cooks for me a 345 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: few meals a week. 346 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: They are friends with Margot Martin Day. Yeah, she cracks 347 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: me up. She's a great actress. 348 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: Yes, it's wonderful to have her as a friend. We 349 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 5: lived next door to each other in New York for 350 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 5: about thirty some years. Wow, that last apartment I had 351 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: in New York. She lived next door to me. And 352 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: I don't know why, but we have the same feeling 353 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 5: towards acting. What each of us recognizes is the same. 354 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 5: And so it's wonderful to talk to her about acting 355 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: because I know that it's going to be somebody that 356 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: I understand and that understands what I'm saying. 357 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, what is that philosophy? 358 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: If you don't mind sharing that you both have in 359 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: common when it comes to acting. 360 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: Well, I think we both want reality and that's something 361 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: that's very important to me. And also my husband, who 362 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: was very important to me as a teacher, pounded into me. 363 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: And less is more. That's another one, because the less 364 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: you do, the better off you are. 365 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: You're so dedicated to your career. How did you balance 366 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: love and your husband and then later your second husband 367 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: with that love of craft? Did they understand it very much? 368 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: So? 369 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 5: I think, well, that's probably why the first marriage didn't work. 370 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: I don't think there was that understanding my second husband, 371 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: because he taught acting. He was the one that wanted 372 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: me to change and wanted me to give up musicals 373 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: and work as an actress and it was very important 374 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: to him. And also I think being the father of 375 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: my child I made a big difference in our relationship. 376 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 5: So I don't know quite what the answer is. I 377 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: guess you just learned to sort of handle everything all 378 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: at once. You know, there was never a question that 379 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 5: if I wanted to do a job that was not 380 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 5: in New York City, that I would do it. He 381 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 5: would handle taking care of their child. 382 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Did you just sort of know when you met Charles, 383 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: your second husband, Yes. 384 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: Because we were married thirty years before he died. 385 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: And you had that spark. 386 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. And I also recognized that he had this ability 387 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: to explain something that I felt I wanted explained, and 388 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 5: that was acting. That was a part of what I 389 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: found so great about him. 390 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: What do you think he found in you? 391 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 5: I think I had a love of life that he 392 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: did not have. I think that always fascinated him. Yeah, 393 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 5: I really do. 394 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: You actually credit your second husband, Charles, with giving you 395 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: that push that you needed to explore cinema and TV roles. 396 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: Right When I look at your career, I think about 397 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: the power of reinvention and how you're someone who has 398 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: constantly pivoted and reinvented themselves and rediscovered themselves. Is there 399 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: a secret to getting through each one of those reinventions? 400 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: I think you have to want something, and I think 401 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 5: each time I wanted this, I wanted what the shift was, 402 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: and so I did it. I don't know what you made. 403 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: It sounds yell and I you know, I could remember 404 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 5: when I first went into his class. Oh, I was 405 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: crying and screaming and yelling at it. Everybody was laughing 406 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 5: and he and I because he was saying, you're going 407 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: to You're going to do it. I say I can't. 408 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 5: I can. I mean, we went through shit together to 409 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 5: get there. But he was determined, and I guess I 410 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 5: was determined too, that this was going to happen. 411 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: How did you find the faith, that trust, the belief 412 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: in yourself to keep going. 413 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: It never occurred to me to give up. It just 414 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: simply never occurred to me. And I think that, and 415 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: I've said this I from the time I remember I 416 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 5: was an actress, and I have no idea why. I 417 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 5: don't know where it came from. But it never occurred 418 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: to me that I was anything else, but that that 419 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: was it. 420 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: I think a lot of younger generations of women today 421 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: are constantly butting up against these arbitrary deadlines that society 422 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: has imposed on us. You know, you got to have 423 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: everything figured out by by the time you turn thirty, 424 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: and then you need to have your next reinvention at forty, 425 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: or you need to be in the C suite by fifty. 426 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: What you want to say to anyone out there who 427 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: believes it might be too late for them to accomplish 428 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: whatever it is that they're after. 429 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: I just don't think it's ever too late. I really don't. 430 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 5: And it's not me sitting here in my nineties because 431 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: of the film. I just believe that I think that 432 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: we each have our own road, and some take longer. 433 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. And also, if you want 434 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 5: to do something, it's important enough, you'll stick at it 435 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 5: and do it well. 436 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: June, we're going to wrap this up. 437 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: It has been such a treat having you here in 438 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: the right side studio with us. 439 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, Thank you for including me. 440 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: June Squid is an OSCAR nominated actor and star of 441 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Selma in select theaters and on vod. 442 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, the multi talented performer 443 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: Mikayla Hey Rodriguez is here with us. She's talking about 444 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: her iconic roles in Pose and Loot, her new music, 445 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: and so much more. 446 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 447 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 448 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm Simone Boice. 449 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: You can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok. 450 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. 451 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: That's r b A Y See you tomorrow, folks. Keep 452 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: looking on the bright side.