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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It's Tuesday, October third, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number forty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about on Tuesday. We'll take a big

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Speaker 1: picture look. It's a quarter of the way through the season,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm going to ask these guys a couple

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Speaker 1: of questions on a couple actually, a lot of questions

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Speaker 1: about their bigger picture thoughts on this team after four

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Speaker 1: games and what that, if anything, what that means going

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Speaker 1: down there entering the second quarter of the season with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So how's everybody doing this morning? Man? I'm good,

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Speaker 1: You're good. Yep good, Dave good, I am well, Derek awesome.

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Speaker 1: And Amber will not be with us. At the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the show. She made jo on us at some

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Speaker 1: on this morning, so hopefully at some point she joins us.

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Speaker 1: If not, she'll be back tomorrow. All right, So let's

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Speaker 1: jump right in, and before we get into the questions

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Speaker 1: that I was telling you I wanted to ask, I

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Speaker 1: want to first start and talk about David Irving. It

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Speaker 1: looks like, I mean, we know he will be returning

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Speaker 1: to the team, I presume today today. That being said,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys think as far as who's going

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Speaker 1: to have to go? Because somebody's got to go in

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Speaker 1: order for him to make room I mean in order

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Speaker 1: for them to make room for him to come in. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, before we get into that, I'll let

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Speaker 1: Dave talk about who's gonna go. But it was kind

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Speaker 1: of funny. Thanks, Well, I don't have to think about

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Speaker 1: interesting though, because we were talking to Garrett yesterday after

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Speaker 1: the question was about Irving about you know, what, when

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Speaker 1: do you have to bring a guy back? And or

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Speaker 1: when when Canny come back? And who has to be cut?

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Speaker 1: And do you have a roster exemption, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: even seem interested in all those rules. Kind of like

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Speaker 1: Dave doesn't seem interested in this story there and it's tired, tired. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: he was like, Yeah, I don't know all about all that.

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Speaker 1: him till he's just he's please playing, you know. He

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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that sounds good. But and all it

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Speaker 1: definitely sounds like that David Irving's practicing this week, I'm

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Speaker 1: the right answer. Coach. Logic points toward Bene bin Wickery. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's also a reasonable guest that should have been a

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Speaker 1: least brush my teeth first, right, Yeah, I had a

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Speaker 1: the MAVs are awful? Why would I want to do that? No?

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Speaker 1: sounds terrible, interviews, zero fund, all of it all right, too?

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Speaker 1: questions that I have for you guys. There's a I

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Speaker 1: all different topics around this team. So some of them

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Speaker 1: First question, based on expectations, who's been the biggest Which

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Speaker 1: unit has been the biggest disappointment through four games? The

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Speaker 1: a product of the fact that the wide receivers. Now

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Speaker 1: But I think it all stems from the passing game,

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Speaker 1: he's had some good moments. He he broke up a

427
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Speaker 1: third down play in the red zone against the Rams

428
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: the other day. He's he's had some past defenses. Um,

429
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: I know, I was super impressed by the read that

430
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath made on that no play in Arizona where

431
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: he went up and almost picked that ball off. But

432
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: it just it, it hasn't been there for him, you know,

433
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: Todd Todd Gurley's fifty three yard touchdown. I mean you

434
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: have to consider that a busted play, and like, it

435
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: hasn't been terrible, but it just hasn't been there, and

436
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: especially you basically you let Bury Church walk in free agency,

437
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: and the talking point all offseason is well, we have

438
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in the guys that we have,

439
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: and it hasn't It hasn't been there as of yet.

440
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: I've been really encouraged by Xavier Woods. But again, you know,

441
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: kind of like Jeff Heath before he got the starting role,

442
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: is would he look that good if he was out

443
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: there seventy plays and you know, teams were scheming to

444
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: beat his deficiencies. I don't know. Um, So it's not awful,

445
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: but it certainly hasn't been great. It hasn't been what

446
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: the team tried to sell it as what they thought

447
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: it could be. Okay, Nick, I think it is ironic

448
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: or it's probably actually probably not a coincidence that the

449
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: two positions that that you know, left and free agency

450
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: that we were kind of worried about were Bury Bury

451
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: Church and Ron Leary, And you're sitting here talking about

452
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: these two guys now in these two positions that they've

453
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: they've left a void. I would say the answer would

454
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: be probably safety. You know, I agree with with Dave.

455
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: I think that because you know, safety is gonna gonna

456
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: cause more problems, you know, because you're supposed to be

457
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: the last line of defense. So when Jeff Heath misses

458
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley in the open field, it's a touchdown. And

459
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: and you know, if they if they get the wrong

460
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: read and they let a guy go over the top

461
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: like Arizona or whatever, it's a touchdown. So yeah, I

462
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: think that even though they're playing okay, okay, we'll still

463
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: give up touchdowns and this team can't do that, and

464
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: they can't. They for the most part, they do. But Ben,

465
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: but you cannot break. And I will see in some breaks,

466
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: I will say this, I mean, it looks similar to

467
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: last year with Ben but not break. But last year's defense,

468
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: with the exception of Odell Beckham's touchdown in the second

469
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Giants game, they did not give up thirty forty or

470
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: more yard plays, especially ones that ended in touchdowns. You

471
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Speaker 1: saw it happened with Todd Gurley on Sunday. You saw

472
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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald do it two or three times in that

473
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: Cardinals game. Those have been things that they did not

474
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Speaker 1: allow last year that you have seen happen in I

475
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: would say three out of the four games this year,

476
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: you've seen those types of backbreaking games, and that's indicative

477
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: of your safety play. All right, next question, what's been

478
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Speaker 1: tough for the first quarter of the season where you

479
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: played New York at Denver, at Arizona and versus the Rams,

480
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: or the second quarter of the season where you will

481
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: face Green Bay at San Francisco at Washington in Kansas City.

482
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Speaker 1: I was posting about that last night, right before I

483
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: went to bed. I broke down the next four for

484
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Speaker 1: everybody in the NFC East, the Cowboys have the toughest

485
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: draw out of everybody. Maybe Washington's got a pretty tough

486
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: draw to but this and it looks tough. I mean

487
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I don't need to say anything about them.

488
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I know, I know that they're seen as

489
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: a bottom feeder, but they've been playing teams tough though

490
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: they've been, they've been in most of the games they've played.

491
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: It seems like this year Um and then Kansas City

492
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: is the only undefeated team in the league, and Washington

493
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: has looked pretty darn good. They gave why, they gave

494
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Casey all they wanted. Last gave Casey all they wanted.

495
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Beat the crap out of an Oakland team that a

496
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are high on, and beat this Rams

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: team that just beat the Cowboys on the road on

498
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: the West Coast. And if you bet on games, how

499
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: about that? Why did I why did I think of

500
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: you at the end of the day game. I don't

501
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: bet on games. I know you don't. I know you

502
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: follow those lines. I do enjoy that far Sports Center

503
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: with a bad beats, like that's like the all timer.

504
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: That is the number one bad beat of all times.

505
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: I didn't stay up late enough to see Van Peltz second,

506
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: but it's I mean, that's unbelievable. Like you, if you

507
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: bet on that game, you got to be feeling pretty

508
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: good about yourself. With four seconds left, you may have

509
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: turned off the TV, may have gone to bid right

510
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: because it was like a touchdown. I think I think

511
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: the Redskins were getting a touchdown. So when they even

512
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: when they were driving to kick it to go to

513
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: overtime with like a minute to go, you're thinking, all right,

514
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: even if this game goes overtime and the chief score,

515
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: I've got this. Yeah. The only way would be if

516
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs go down real quick, it's kick a

517
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: field goal and then I have enough time and I

518
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: try to do cal Stanford laterals. But by nobody, yeah,

519
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: say by nobody, and nobody thought that picks up and

520
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: toward touchdown, and that leads that leads to my favorite

521
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: call in sports, which doesn't matter who the announcer is.

522
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: Brent Musburger was really famous for doing it, but the

523
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: announcer is always like that is not insignificant to a

524
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of people watching that, you know, right, just a

525
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: little not to those out there. But I uh, I

526
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: went and I went and looked at this after the

527
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: game last night. So yeah, I mean Green Bay, San Francisco,

528
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Washington can't say tough. Honestly, Philly, who's leading division right now,

529
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: seems like they have the easiest of all the next quarter,

530
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: which is home against Arizona at Carolina, home against Washington,

531
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: home against San Francisco. I mean not nothing's easy in

532
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: the NFL, but that's pretty manageable. Redskins are dealing with

533
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: home against San Francisco, at Philly, Dallas and at Seattle. Well,

534
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: they've got two division games, so that that does crank

535
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: it up a little bit for them. Here if there's

536
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: a silver lining and I know what, like three teams

537
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: in the modern history of the NFL have made the

538
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: playoffs after an owen four start. But if you're still

539
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: worried about the Giants for whatever reason, they're going Chargers

540
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: at Broncos, Seahawks Rams. Yeah, they'll put them to bid.

541
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here thinking, by the time Halloween rolls around,

542
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean, unless something crazy happens, I feel like the

543
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: Giants are going to be out of this conversation. Yeah,

544
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: And to be honestly, I'm not as worried about them

545
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: anymore from standpoint of fighting for playoff spots, but they

546
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: still are a team that they're like a it's like

547
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: a zombie. Like you gotta finish them off. Yeah, you

548
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: don't want them. You want them demoralized and out of

549
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: the conversation to where they're not even where, like Nick

550
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: always says, you want them to the point where they

551
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: may show up on Sundays, but whatever they're doing on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

552
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: it's not enough to beat you, right, and that's how

553
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: you got to get him really demoralized at that point. Right.

554
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know though, because like you've already beaten them

555
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: at home, so you still have to go face them

556
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: on the road. And you want them to be for

557
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: the team, be competitive when the Redskins come to town

558
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: or so, you know, I don't want them to be

559
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: finished off completely. I mean until the Cowboys play him

560
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: in December. Yeah, yeah, they want them to kind of

561
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: be ready to trail off. Dallas is gonna play two

562
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: teams that I think are almost guaranteed to host a

563
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: playoff game this year make Kansas City yep. And at home? Yeah,

564
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: at home sure? And I mean I think this this

565
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: Washington team is sneaky good. I feel like, are people

566
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: write them off because you know, Cousins has that kind

567
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: of he puts up stats but never delivers, like that's

568
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: kind of his reputation. But he looked he has looked

569
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: really good for most of this season. Their offensive line

570
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: is solid. The defense I think is a story for

571
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: that team, the one I will I want to check

572
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: in on them because Josh Norman is now out for

573
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: a few weeks and a couple of their injury. Yeah,

574
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: a couple of their other defensive backs got hurt like

575
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: they were I mean they were throwing whoever they had

576
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: left out there, like everybody. It wasn't just defensive backs.

577
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: It seemed like every play it seemed like a defensive

578
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: guy was going down. So, but their pass rush I

579
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: think is improved this year over what it was last year.

580
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: They say, sorry, they have drafted incredibly well over the

581
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: last two or three years. They say Norman could miss

582
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Cowboys don't face them for what

583
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: three or I mean weeks two weeks from now, well, no,

584
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: three weeks now from now because of the bye. Yeah,

585
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: so it'll be back. He'll be back. They have been

586
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: fortunate they've played without They played the Giants without Beckham,

587
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: they played the Cardinals without David Johnson. I saw Time

588
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Montgomery with broken ribs, but they're thinking he might play

589
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: this game against with broken ribs at the running back position.

590
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: They might fluck with that. But and then their backup

591
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: running back got hurt too, and they Yeah, they had

592
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: that rookie, that sixth round pick I think is the

593
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: guy that I don't know who the Aaron Aaron Jones

594
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: is the guy. Jamal Williams is another one to watch.

595
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Um got hurt. I don't think Dorsey's coming back. I

596
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: think he's done. I think he's done. All right, let's

597
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: go on to the next question. Um, Running Game will

598
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: hit it's stride and return to what we saw in

599
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. True or false? True? Like I said, for

600
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: all the doom and gloom, the Running Game has not

601
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: been bad. It was atrocious one weekend in Denver. I'm

602
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: willing to chalk that up because they've been good in

603
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: every other game they eat. Like I said, even if

604
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: you want to play that stupid game and take the

605
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: Morris run out of the equation, they still ran for

606
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty yards, which is very good. Um,

607
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: so it's it's going and uh, it sounds like Chaz

608
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: Green's injury isn't long term for the time being. What ever,

609
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: roll your eyes if you want to. I didn't roll you.

610
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Rolled your eyes. I expect him. I feel confident that

611
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: he should be in there for green Bay. I guess

612
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: we'll see how the things develop as the week goes along.

613
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then you know, I don't think every

614
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: team on the schedule is going to have a defense

615
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: like these first four either, I mean that's really four

616
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: in a row where they're you're talking about a lot

617
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: of talent on your defense. I mean you remember, I know,

618
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: you know from year to year it changes, but this

619
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay team couldn't stop them from doing anything on

620
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: the ground last year and really either of those playoff games,

621
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: and so we'll see. I feel good that they'll get

622
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: it on track. Yeah, I think they'll get it on track.

623
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Speaker 1: But you said, like like last seen, no, because they're

624
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: not gonna lead the league and he's not gonna lead

625
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: the league in rushing. Zeke isn't. I mean, I don't

626
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: know what he ranks right now, but it's not down there.

627
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: It's Yeah, that one game killed him. I mean that

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: one game. Yeah, nine yards, that's a killer right there.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah he ain't. Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt's doing the Zeke

630
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: thing this year. Yeah, we'll see if that continues all season.

631
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's definitely off to a great start. He

632
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: had one hundred and one yards last night, rookie, right,

633
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: and he had an off night kind of you know,

634
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't There were tough yards he got

635
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah. I respected the way he played last night.

636
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: He was the leading rusher going into the game. Yeah.

637
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's saying something right there that after three

638
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: games he's already the leading rusher and everyone else has

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Speaker 1: played four. All right, next question, DeMarcus Lawrence. Lee's the

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Speaker 1: NFL with seven and a half sacks. He will end

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Speaker 1: with fifteen sacks? Over or under? I like over over fifteen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I still think he's got another blow up game

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Speaker 1: in him. I mean, just the way he plays, the

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Speaker 1: way he rushes. Now that they got some help coming, um,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got another game of of you know,

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Speaker 1: three or so. Mister Dallas Cowboys Encyclopedia, when's the last

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Speaker 1: time a gay went over fifteen? Where? Huh? Where? Where? What?

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Speaker 1: Where's he? Now? I don't know, DeMarcus where? Oh? Wh what?

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Speaker 1: What year? What year was it? Do you remember what

650
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Speaker 1: year the last time the Cowboys had a pass rusher

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: that got over fifteen sacks? And in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight I believe he had That was the year he

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Speaker 1: had twenty. So I think we're talking about oh nine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he came back after that with fifteen. I don't

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Speaker 1: really have this. I don't have them media gat in

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Speaker 1: front of me. I mean he was around that time.

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Speaker 1: I would say anywhere from like two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and eleven he was in that boat

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Speaker 1: of like ten, you know, anywhere from fit fourteen fifteen

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Speaker 1: he got a couple where he was over twenty, yeah, nineteen,

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, nineteen point five, that was the last time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: when did you have twenty? Was it? It was two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight? Yep. Okay, so two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 1: so the last time, ken, are you looking at the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys year by year or just looking career? Okay? Well,

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Speaker 1: and I don't nobody else had I mean, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of another pass rusher that would have gotten that

668
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Speaker 1: high Hatcher even at Yeah, no, they have not had

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Speaker 1: anybody come like. Hatcher's the closest since I've been here.

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Speaker 1: The double digits. Yeah, Um, I'm gonna say he hits

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Speaker 1: it because at this point he's halfway there after a course,

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Speaker 1: he hits fifteen or he's over fifteen. I think he

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Speaker 1: hits it. I don't know by how much, but I

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00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough for him because he's gonna

675
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: start to be a point of emphasis for these teams,

676
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Speaker 1: and I don't think his supporting cast is good enough

677
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: to take that pressure off of him. I think he's

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00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: gonna be good. He's gonna maybe he opens the door

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Speaker 1: for other people to get sacks um, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna get tough for him with the way

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Speaker 1: he started. But I think twelve games, I mean, what

682
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: he he only has to he he doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: to average a sack a game the rest of the

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Speaker 1: way to get there. So I think he'll get there,

685
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Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna get a lot tougher. I

686
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Speaker 1: think the reason why that I think he is going

687
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Speaker 1: to get there is because he even if though teams

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Speaker 1: have great left tackles, he doesn't face them. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: really he can go up on both sides of the line,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part he's rushing from the left end.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're gonna start giving more attension. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I didn't help, that's fine. Odd Gurley was knocking the

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Speaker 1: crap out of him. No, but that but that's okay

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Speaker 1: because that that's that's to be expected. A lot of

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna play on the right side. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: play that tight end or running back whatever. It's not like, though,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go up against this awesome Pro Bowl left

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Speaker 1: tackle that can shut him down. I mean, he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna face that unless they want to switch their whole

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Speaker 1: offense around, which I doubt that they will. So what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is is that he's either gonna face a

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Speaker 1: matchup that he should be able to win, or he's

703
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna force teams to do things like that. And that's

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Speaker 1: when you hope that Malik. And by the way, did

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Speaker 1: he play the other day, Malik, he did for him

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Speaker 1: other than kicking the ball at the end of the

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Speaker 1: game at the end of the half, you know, to

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people on Twitter asking me why

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Speaker 1: that wasn't one of the five players to remember, I

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Speaker 1: still thought the Rams were gonna get the ball and

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Speaker 1: spike it. I didn't think they were running out of time,

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Speaker 1: did you know. I thought they were going to spike

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Speaker 1: the ball and that that kid would have made a

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Speaker 1: field goal from sixty five yards, so what's five morning yards? Yeah? Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I think that I think he will get it. I

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00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: think he'll get up there because I think he's really

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: really rushing the well well right now, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, I have

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Speaker 1: two more questions for you guys. The question that we'll

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Speaker 1: I pick one out here? A true cowboy loves his freedom.

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Speaker 1: Tommy John gives you that feeling of freedom where it

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Speaker 1: you do when you run, but I gotta I gotta pair.

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Speaker 1: I got a pair of Tommy John underwear for running

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Speaker 1: that it comes with a little pouch that is that

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Speaker 1: the ones to run anywhere I don't know, or go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're called. But it has a

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Speaker 1: little pouch that I can put my keys in or

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Speaker 1: like if we're on the road. It's perfect for like

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Speaker 1: a hotel room key or whatever. It's great. Yeah, awesome,

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Speaker 1: So like it's your keys in your underwear. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like there's a little pocket and you just put it

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Speaker 1: in there and there's they're safe. And I used to

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Speaker 1: have to tie my keys or in on my shoe

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Speaker 1: when I went for a run, hotel key or or

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Speaker 1: back in the day before I had this underwear. If

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Speaker 1: I was running at home, I would tie my house

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Speaker 1: key to my shoe, or if I was in a hotel,

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Speaker 1: I would put my hotel key in my um inside

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Speaker 1: my shoe. We gotta talk after this. What else are

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Speaker 1: you supposed to do? Thank, we're talking now, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: what else are you We're gonna have a running talking

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Speaker 1: what else? What else are you supposed to do with

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you after Yeah, I'll tell you if this

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter now because I have a pouch on

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Speaker 1: my underwear that holds it. So don't wait to go.

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Speaker 1: Tommy John, Tommy John's awesome. Send me more stuff, please

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Speaker 1: please anyway, please, please please. It's getting to the point

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Speaker 1: where I don't have to choose anymore. I can just

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Speaker 1: every day it's a Tommy John day. You know it's

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Speaker 1: getting close, you know, Yeah, all right, let's let's get

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Speaker 1: back in. We got a couple more questions here. We

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Speaker 1: want to hit and we also will take questions from

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Speaker 1: you guys. You guys call us two one four eighty

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty one h two and we'll take your questions.

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Speaker 1: By the way, during this segment, Tommy John though de

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence did continue his sack streak. Awesome. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Amber will be very happy to just pointed out last week.

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Speaker 1: Very very good. All right, next question, the defense has

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Speaker 1: been better, worse or the same as last year? Nick? Mmm?

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00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I think the defense has been worse because they've lost.

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00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean they've lost two games and through the first

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: four they only lost two games last year, like through

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00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: the whole season up until the very very end. And

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Speaker 1: you put that on the defense. I put some of

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Speaker 1: it on the defense. I also will say this, you

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get worse than that. It's gonna get worse

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00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: than that, starting starting Sunday. It gets worse than that.

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Speaker 1: And so you're to go too and two and to

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Speaker 1: lose games against Trevor Simeon and Jared Goff. I know

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Speaker 1: that that they are better than most people expected, but

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Speaker 1: you know, and Goff is up there when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the yards and points, their offense is up. They're

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Speaker 1: at the top of the league. Yeah, they're not. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that by the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: he's got a game like the Falcons for two years ago.

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Speaker 1: To me, where you've dominated the first half, you're running

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Speaker 1: all over the place. What a great It's true, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, you're like he lost

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Speaker 1: of the Falcons and then they're than the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: They're not bad. I'm not saying the Rams were ready

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Speaker 1: to take that step right now, but you know that

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Speaker 1: that game was very similar to that one. First time

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Speaker 1: since Week three twenty fifteen against Atlanta that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have held a double digit lead and not won the game. Really, yep, um,

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Speaker 1: how how can you argue that it's not worse. It's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they've been terrible, but it's worse.

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Speaker 1: I mean week last year, for through the first four weeks,

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Speaker 1: they gave up twenty to New York, twenty three to Washington,

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Speaker 1: seventeen to Chicago. And what was Week four was that

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Speaker 1: San Francisco so fourteen points? What was the score of

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Speaker 1: that game? Twenty eight to fourteen. I think something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you've given up the forty nine ers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't remember, but before seventeen, maybe they didn't give up

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Speaker 1: more than and then they gave up sixteen to Green Bay.

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00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: They didn't give up more than twenty three points. Through

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Speaker 1: the first like two months of last season, they've given

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00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: up thirty five to the Rams. And I mean, even

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Speaker 1: if you don't count the pick six, they gave up

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Speaker 1: thirty five to Denver. So yeah, I mean they've been worse.

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Speaker 1: They've given up more big plays. They've had problems stopping

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Speaker 1: the run two of the four weeks. And like we

848
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Speaker 1: said in the previous segment, they've caught some breaks too.

849
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave up three points to the Giants.

850
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: But we know that Odell Beckham changes what they do.

851
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: We know David Johnson changes what Arizona does. So they've

852
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: caught a couple of breaks there, and those are the

853
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: two games that they've won. So they need catch some

854
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: more breaks. I guess I will say this. Through the

855
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: first month of last season, I would guess they were healthier.

856
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: You'll have Sean Lee back soon. You'll have Anthony Hitchins

857
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: back soon. Cheeto can hopefully at some points start contributing

858
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: to this defense soon, so there's reason to opt for there.

859
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: And David irvings back now, so you've got all of

860
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: your suspended players back in the fold, Um, there's reason

861
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: to feel optimistic that they can improve. I love it

862
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: when you talk optimism, being optimistic in the Cowboys this week. No,

863
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: being optimistic is being optimistic is fine as long as

864
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: it's based on something more than that's just a gut field,

865
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: just what you want. Yeah, I guess all right. This

866
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: final question, actually you led into it pretty well. Which

867
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: returning player will have the biggest impact, Anthony Hitchins or

868
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: David Irving. Man, it's good. I'm gonna say David Irving.

869
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: And I really like Hitchens, and I think Hitchens. You're

870
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk yourself out. I am gonna talking myself out

871
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: of it, you know why, Because I'm gonna talk myself

872
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: out of them. I think Irving will would be good,

873
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: but I think Hitchens gives you two better players. Irving

874
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: gives you a better player. Hitchens gives you two better players.

875
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: You got Hitchens and you got a better Jalen Smith.

876
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Because I think less will be more for Jay Smith.

877
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Not to have to play all the time. So really good.

878
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, But I like what Irving does.

879
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a big upgrade. But I think Hitchens

880
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: can give you a better linebacker, Corp. You know, I

881
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say when you say he gives

882
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: you two better plays. I thought you were going to

883
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: say he's been better. He'll be better as a run defender.

884
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: He'll also be better as a nickel guy. Because that

885
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: game that you just played with that running back was

886
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of running all around the field. I think Hitchens

887
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: would have done a better job against him than what

888
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: you saw did his answer. Then I got another point here.

889
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: But I've been driving the Anthony Hitchins bandwagon since probably May,

890
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm not gonna jump off now that

891
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: he's actually getting ready to play. I think. I mean,

892
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: he's He's not Bobby Wagner. I'm you know so. But

893
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: he is a solid all around linebacker. He tackles well.

894
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: He is better in coverage than Jalen Smith has been

895
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: through the first month of the season. And not only

896
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: what you said about giving Jalen a lighter workload, which

897
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: should be good for him. He partners well with Shaun Lee.

898
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that'll be good. I like David Irving. I

899
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: said this yesterday and actually ironically he had like the

900
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: best game of his career against the Packers, So maybe

901
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: he does it again. But I gotta see more consistency

902
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: from him than just you know, basically two amazing performances

903
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of kind of stop and start,

904
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: good bad, mixed bag. So the hope is that you

905
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: put in with DeMarcus Lawrence and now, you know, think

906
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: about the if you got those four in there with

907
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: him and with Malie Collins and you have him at tackle,

908
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: can you with Crawford at in? I think that's a

909
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: really good front four in a Nickel situation. You guarantee me, like,

910
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: can you accurately predict where Irving is going to get

911
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: most of his snaps? Because I can't. I can't. I

912
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: have no idea I can tell you where I prefer it.

913
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: I like him better as a defensive tackle me too, Yeah,

914
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: I think so. I think I would prefer And that's

915
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: not so much that I think he's better at defensive tackle.

916
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I think it's more from the standpoint personally for me

917
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: that if I'm looking at how this defensive line is

918
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: made up, and I'm trying to get my best guys

919
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: on the field and pass rush to situations, I think

920
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: he's best at defensive tackle. With those other three guys

921
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, I think you have your best four

922
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: pass rushers. Maybe you could sub about Mayoa for Crawford

923
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: if you feel a little better about that in certain situations,

924
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: but I think you got your best four on the

925
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: field at that point. I think you need to figure

926
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: out where Crawford's going to play, too, Like, where do

927
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: you want him to play the most? They need more

928
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: out of him. There's just no doubt about it that

929
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: they've needed more out of him before. And you know,

930
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: you getting to a point where, well, yeah, he's got

931
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: a bad contracting to live up to that. Okay, forget

932
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: that you need to play he needs to just play

933
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: better as a captain, as a guy that they need

934
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: more from. He needs to do some some things and

935
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if his better spot is an end

936
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: or tackle and they need him to do something. He's

937
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: not helping much and they're relying on him. So wherever

938
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna play Crawford to to, you know, utilize him

939
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the best, then I would kind of say you put

940
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: Irving in at that other spot. Um, I was gonna

941
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: say this about Jalen Smith, bless you, Jalen Smith and Hitchens,

942
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, you see, it would seem like Jalen Smith

943
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: needs to play less plays, and the smart thing to

944
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: do would just say put him on nickel, because you

945
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Hitchens go first and second down and then you put

946
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: him on nickel. But Nicholas where receivers come flying across

947
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: the field where he might have to carry them. So

948
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I think you actually need to start Jalen Smith with

949
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Sean Lee and Hitchens is your nickel guy. Yeah, probably

950
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: if you're trying to ease him in. Ease him in

951
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: and let him play, you know. And I like the

952
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: thought of Jayalen beyond the field on rundowns far more

953
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: than passing down. I agree with that too, So that's

954
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: probably what they you know. So Hitchens, I would think,

955
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: would come in and help you on the on the nickel,

956
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: and they'll have different packages that they both of them

957
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: can play and maybe rotate Shaun Lee sum as well.

958
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: He's coming off a hamstring injury. If he's ready to

959
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: play this week. Let's get to some calls that you

960
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: can call us at two one four eighty seven two

961
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: twenty one O two. Again it's two one four eight

962
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: seven two twenty one O two, or you can hit

963
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Cowboys Break will start with a

964
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: call from Rob in Las Vegas. Rob, What up? Hey? Everybody? Hey,

965
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: you know we talk about the defense. Which one's better

966
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: this year last year? I think I think they're about

967
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: the same. I just think at the end of the day,

968
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: it's the running game that drives this team. Right now,

969
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: they're losing the time of possession by over three minutes.

970
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: For this year, they're averaging about twenty eight and the

971
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: other teams are urging thirty one and a half. Last year,

972
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: they almost every single game they own time of possession.

973
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: Kept the defense off the field, and let's face it,

974
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: it was a good thing because we saw when that

975
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: defense has to be on the field a lot. We're

976
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: in trouble the team at Jason Whitman and Cole Beasley,

977
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: they're built to get first downs five yards, six yards,

978
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: and like Nick was saying, third and eight thirty nine,

979
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: they're they're out of the play. So I think we

980
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: could talk about safeties, and we could talk about the

981
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: pass rush, but If this running game does not start

982
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: producing on first down four or five six yards like

983
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: they delet, this team's gonna struggle all year because we

984
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: knew going in this defense can't put up. And I

985
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: noticed that if there's a big time running team coming in.

986
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: If you notice the teams we beat, the Giants no

987
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: running game at all, Arizona, no running game at all.

988
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Denver pounded us, and the Rams pounded us this week.

989
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know if if Green Bay doesn't have

990
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: a running game, I like our chances. But this offense

991
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: and this running game is what drives this team and

992
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: that's what's going to make this team successful. All right,

993
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I think it's pretty astute point.

994
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it all starts there. And he

995
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: was talking about time of possession. Last year, the Cowboys

996
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: their average possession, their average drive two minutes and fifty

997
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: seven seconds. This year two minutes and thirty five seconds, again,

998
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: almost thirty seconds less per drive that they have the ball.

999
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: This team is just not and I think it goes

1000
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: back to him not being able to run and specifically

1001
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: not running well on first downs. They're not sustaining drives

1002
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: like they once did, and that helps you keep that

1003
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: defense off feel a little bit more. I think that's

1004
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: the difference, way more than there are a difference really

1005
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: in the way they're playing on defense, that number would

1006
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: be a lot different than thirty seconds. Yeah, but you

1007
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: gotta think about you gotta think about like when you

1008
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: look across the league, the difference between the top team

1009
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: and the bottom team is very very small. When you're

1010
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: talking about average time of possession. If you think there's

1011
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: some drives that are forty seconds because you get a

1012
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: deep pass or something like that, so go ahead. I'm sorry, No,

1013
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: it's just I mean it's funny because like I said

1014
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, I mean, statistically, they're running the

1015
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. But I think the element that you're

1016
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: missing is and you know, people, and rightly so, people

1017
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: I think have been criticizing the offense for being predictable.

1018
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: And I think last year they just they could run

1019
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: at will and if and we're gonna do it and

1020
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: we know, you know that it's coming and it doesn't matter,

1021
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think they can do that

1022
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: this year. And whether you want to blame, whether you

1023
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: want to blame, like I said, whether it's the left guard,

1024
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: whether it's the right tackle, whether the all pros aren't

1025
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: playing up to their snuff, whether Ezekiel Elliott's missing his reads,

1026
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want to blame it on, it is not dominant.

1027
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: And therefore it used to not matter that you were predictable,

1028
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: and it does right now. But you know something, and

1029
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you get to that real quick. But I

1030
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: want to make this point. I don't have the numbers

1031
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: right in front of me, but I think there is

1032
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: a perception and you watch the games and you almost

1033
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: think that they're running the ball on first downs more

1034
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: than they're passing. They're really not. I mean, they're passing

1035
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: the ball on first down quite a bit. So it's

1036
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: not that they're just so predictable where every down, every

1037
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: time on first down, here we go to run and

1038
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: they can't get anything. They're mixing it up. They're probably

1039
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: fifty percent, but it's just when they run it on

1040
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: first down. And this goes back to what defenses are

1041
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: saying is basically, we're not going to let you run

1042
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: on first down. Yeah, you might throw it on us,

1043
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: we're not going to let you run on first downs.

1044
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: And so far they have not been able to impose

1045
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: it will even when defenses last year, right, That's my

1046
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: point is that defenses did that all last year and

1047
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: they were just like, Okay, we're going we're gonna do

1048
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: it anyway, we're gonna get four yards. Sorry. And I

1049
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: think where you're seeing is, you know, look at look

1050
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: at two years ago when this team was four and twelve,

1051
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: they still had like the fourth leading rusher in the NFL, right, McFadden.

1052
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they were running the ball pretty well, even

1053
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: though they were down in some games. They weren't winning,

1054
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: they weren't very good, but they were one of the

1055
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: worst teams, if not the worst team, in short yardage situations.

1056
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: They couldn't run on third and one. They had trouble

1057
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: in the red zone and around the goal line. And

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00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're seeing a little bit with

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: this team is that they've had some issues in the

1060
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: red zone when it gets down close. They're having a

1061
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: hard time moving people off the ball when they really

1062
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: need to. So, yeah, as Dave your point, the stats

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00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: look pretty good. They are running the ball fairly well.

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00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: But we even saw after that run by Morris, I

1065
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: mean he got down there, it was kind of hard.

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00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: You had to throw row the ball to try to

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00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: get it get it in. So that's where I think

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00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: the issue is still is it's short yardage downward gets

1069
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: tight in the red zone, being able to just say

1070
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: we are knocking you back off the ball, and we

1071
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: haven't really seen that yet, So I think that's kind

1072
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: of where the issue is. You think that also we

1073
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: were just kind of seeing a little bit of what

1074
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: we saw last year. It just happens that this was compacted.

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: It's the first four games because last year when they

1076
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: faced good defenses, they struggled the Giants, the Vikings. There

1077
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: were some games that they played really good defenses and

1078
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: they just they couldn't get anything going. Maybe it just

1079
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: so happens that this year you played the Rams, who

1080
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: their front is as good as any defense they played

1081
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: last year, and they played the Denver Broncos, who obviously

1082
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: their defense is right up there, and you had those

1083
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: in the first four games. Versus being spaced out through

1084
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: the season. It's entirely possible. And these next two games.

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00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a tall task with

1086
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: the Packers just because of Aaron Rodgers, but you should

1087
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: be able to run on this team. I'd like to

1088
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: think you can run on San Francisco, which I know

1089
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: that they've got a lot of draft picks in their

1090
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: front seven, but that is still a talent depleted team.

1091
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see, We'll see what this looks like. Because

1092
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: if if the struggles continue against these next two defenses,

1093
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: then I don't think that excuse holds as much water

1094
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: as it does. Right now, You're saying, who has a

1095
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: lot of draft picks at Francis Scan Francisco Orrus Buckner,

1096
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, Ruben Foster's in there. Now, you know at

1097
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: some point that I think that that needs to be

1098
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: addressed as well for the Cowboys. Um, you're seeing these teams,

1099
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: especially last week with the Rams. Rod Marinelli as good

1100
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: as he is and coaches up these guys, and he

1101
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: coaches up a lot of no names. They need some names,

1102
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: like they need some players to they need to start drafting,

1103
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, try to get some guys that are

1104
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: in the elite pass freshers or elite defensive tackles. You know,

1105
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, go ahead, Yeah, I'm just saying

1106
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: that it's catching up to them of you for you

1107
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: can just keep trying to find diamonds in the rough.

1108
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Over and over, but at some point you do need

1109
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: to surround them with some really awesome, great players. And

1110
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the defensive line has been now at

1111
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: end they've tried it end a little bit more with

1112
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence a Taco. That's the question is when

1113
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 1: could they do that? I mean they they've had They've

1114
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: had two first round picks on this defense. They were later,

1115
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 1: but that's that's just the factor of where you draft,

1116
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: based upon where you finish, Like when were they really

1117
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: supposed to get these really much higher level players well

1118
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: in the draft? You know, it's a mindset from Marinelli.

1119
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't sit there and say it. He

1120
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: likes to get these guys because it makes him look

1121
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: like a better coach. If you can get Nick Hayden

1122
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: to play well when nobody wants Nick Hayden, and you

1123
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: can get David Irving and all these guys and Tyrone

1124
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: Crawford and make them you know, now, he was a

1125
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: third round pick and so was Malite Collins and all that.

1126
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it worked out. But you he

1127
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: didn't want Shary Floyd and he could. You know, most

1128
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: guys at defensive line are gonna want a first round pick,

1129
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and he doesn't really want them. He doesn't want those

1130
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: type of players as much. So I don't buy that

1131
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: narrative as much as I used to. And I've talked

1132
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: about that before that. Okay, let's go through it. Taco

1133
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: was pick twenty eight, DeMarcus was pick thirty four, Tyrone

1134
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: Crawford was pick eighty one, Malie Collins was pick sixty seven.

1135
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: Mife Jones, Well, I'm thinking purely on the defense. Okay,

1136
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: that's bait. Oh and Randy Gregory was pick sixty. I mean,

1137
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: clearly did not work out. But you tried. The resources

1138
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: have been spent, and for whatever reason, it has not

1139
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: worked out. I'll do it better, though. What I'm saying

1140
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: is is that's fine, do it better, like do offensively,

1141
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, take the offensive line approach. You know that

1142
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: they were doing the same thing, was second and third

1143
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: round picks for years, and then they finally said, you

1144
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: know what, we need to do a little bit better.

1145
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: That's the question, Like you can only do one of them,

1146
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: Like you only got that one first round pick. So

1147
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: are you saying that you would have preferred instead of

1148
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: going as heavy as they do with the offensive line,

1149
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: that maybe they should have done on defensive line. Here's

1150
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: another thing that maybe I'm maybe I'm changing the argument

1151
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: to this, Get me some bigger guys up front, Get

1152
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: me more size upfront, guys that can play like this undersize.

1153
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: How many guys do you need that are undersized? I

1154
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: mean the guys that are that are quick and off

1155
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, at some point you can't get

1156
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: moved off the ball. And Tyrone Crawford's playing in sometimes,

1157
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: so that means he's not the biggest tackle. Stephen Pie

1158
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: is not a huge tackle at all. He's undersized. Malie

1159
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Collins is a is pretty good, but he's a little

1160
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: bit quicker than he is big. They need some big

1161
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: guys up front, and preferably big talented guys. So I

1162
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: think that that's kind of the issue for me, is

1163
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: that they're getting moved off the ball because they don't

1164
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: really have that size. When everybody's undersized, I don't know,

1165
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't. I don't think that it

1166
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: works all the time. Not everybody's Jay Rayliffe that can

1167
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: play undersize. Yeah, they can do that and play for

1168
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: four years like that. I don't And I mean I

1169
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and sure, they've been picking at

1170
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: the back end of the drafts, they've been finding guys

1171
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds. But I don't think you can

1172
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: look at the resources they've spent on the defensive line

1173
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: since about twenty fourteen when they trade it up for

1174
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence and say we don't have we don't have the talent.

1175
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you've spent a lot of resources to put

1176
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: these guys in place. I'm talking about tackles, and I

1177
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about the line anymore. I'm talking about tackles.

1178
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I think upfront, they need bigger guys up front, and

1179
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: even if it's not a first round pick, but I

1180
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: think that they need more size up there. I think

1181
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: that they're too small, too undersized. All Right, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys. Join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll start

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Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about Cowboys versus Packers, which

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Speaker 1: be coming up this Sunday three thirty at at and

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