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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Phillies Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisburry.

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Speaker 2: I am Todd the Lucky. It is Friday, May twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The Phillies are on this incredible run.

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Speaker 2: They're thirty seven and fourteen. It's the best start in

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Speaker 2: franchise history. They're in their best thirty five game stretch

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Speaker 2: in franchise history. No team has gotten off to I

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Speaker 2: start like this since the two thousand and one Mariners.

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Speaker 2: So many good things going on, including this homestand they

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Speaker 2: go seven to one on the home stand. They just

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Speaker 2: swept the defending World Series champion Texas Rangers. They had

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Speaker 2: a packed house on a beautiful Thursday afternoon at Citizens

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Speaker 2: Bank Park. And as I'm watching these games, and as

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Speaker 2: I see them continue to rack up wins over and over,

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Speaker 2: night after night after night, part of me is just

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Speaker 2: sitting last yesterday afternoon, I'm sitting at home and I'm

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Speaker 2: watching this and I'm going, is this is this really happening?

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's almost kind of hard to believe the

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Speaker 2: type of run that this team is on. I've I've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like this before.

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Speaker 1: It is complete insanity though, I mean it's insane. I

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Speaker 1: was there at broadcasting these games, and I actually don't

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Speaker 1: typically do you know, the home games, that's Cruoky's job.

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Speaker 1: But but I've got these last six games, and these

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Speaker 1: guys are insane right now. They cannot lose. It's almost

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Speaker 1: as if, you know, I think, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: crescendo of a lot of things happening. But one of

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Speaker 1: the big things, obviously is the pitching. The starting pitching

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Speaker 1: has been extraordinary. But even when they're getting like mediocre pitching,

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Speaker 1: when Taiwan Walker took them out, they still had success.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things like I compare them

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Speaker 1: right now to the team like the ninety eight, ninety six,

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety eight Yankees that literally, if you made

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Speaker 1: one mistake in the game, the Phillies would take advantage

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Speaker 1: of it and you get blown out and that's the game.

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Speaker 1: The game's over. And even if it was even like

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Speaker 1: the two run or the three run, they're ahead like

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Speaker 1: two or three runs, and you still think it's sort

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Speaker 1: of a blowout. I mean, it's just bizarre the teams

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Speaker 1: that they're handling these teams in this way, because you

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Speaker 1: almost feel it and sense it from the other teams,

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Speaker 1: and you sense it from the home dugout the Phillies

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Speaker 1: dugout that they're winning a baseball game and that's period,

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Speaker 1: end of story. And that's an amazing attitude. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful thing to see if you're a Phillies fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it because there's so many elements of the

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Speaker 1: game that I believe in that they're doing really really well.

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Speaker 1: That makes me feel like a man, this is really baseball.

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Speaker 1: They're they're starting. Pitching is excellent, They're throwing strikes in

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Speaker 1: an alarming rate. They are not walking people, they are there,

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Speaker 1: their situational hitting has been off the charts, and I

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Speaker 1: mean they're it's they're doing everything they're supposed to do

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Speaker 1: to win baseball games, and they're doing it fundamentally better

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Speaker 3: Jim, Yeah, what a home stand. I mean, you go

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Speaker 3: seven and one, the smallest crowd in that homestand was

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Speaker 3: thirty seven almost thirty eight, thousirty seven plus four sellouts.

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Speaker 3: This team and this fan base is crackling with electricity,

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Speaker 3: and why not best record in baseball, best start over

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Speaker 3: fifty one games in franchise history. They now lead to

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Speaker 3: majors in era and starting pitching era they lead them

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Speaker 3: and starting pitching innings pitched. I mean, it's really kind

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Speaker 3: of an old school feel because they're getting so many

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Speaker 3: innings out of their starting pitchers. They're getting six plus

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Speaker 3: innings out of their starting pitches on average for the season.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I've almost a couple things. One, I

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Speaker 3: expect them to win every time they step on the field,

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Speaker 3: so you might, you might I think they expect to win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm watching that game yesterday from the press

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Speaker 3: box and Zach Wheelers down one nothing, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I still think, you know, when are they going to

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Speaker 3: take control of this game. It's only a matter of time,

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Speaker 3: it feels inevitable. And of course they did, and they

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Speaker 3: went on to uh sweep the defending World Series champions.

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Speaker 3: And I've almost forgotten. And I've covered the Phillies for

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Speaker 3: a long time. I've seen a lot of losing streaks,

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Speaker 3: but this team has not lost back to back games,

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Speaker 3: now consecutive games in a month, so they haven't even

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Speaker 3: an astounding stat They have not lost back to back

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Speaker 3: games in one month. I mean, there's still that narrative

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Speaker 3: out there. They haven't played anybody, they haven't played great teams.

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Speaker 3: They have a soft schedule. You can only play one team,

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Speaker 3: the team that the schedule, you know, mister schedule maker

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Speaker 3: sends you that night. And they're grinding up those teams.

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Speaker 3: I mean they would they would be playing, they would

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Speaker 3: they would have faced more teams over five hundred, like

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Speaker 3: Giants have been kind of treading water around five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Little Phillies have beaten those teams and thrown them who

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Speaker 3: thrown them under five hundred. But you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is not about strength to schedule. This is about

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Speaker 3: winning ball games. And they got a hell of a team. Todd, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know who's a great team.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. Well, totally.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: I saw Matt Breen, a friend of the pod from

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Speaker 2: the Inquiry, he put out a great tweet the other night.

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Speaker 2: But like, I've never seen so much obsession about strength

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Speaker 2: Boise State racking up wins again cupcakes to get into

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Speaker 2: the college football playoff. Wins and losses all comp the same.

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Speaker 2: So the Phillies against teams with losing records are thirty

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Speaker 2: three and twelve. It's a seven thirty three winning percentage, right.

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Speaker 2: I went back and I looked, this is what I

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Speaker 2: do in my spare time. I went back and I

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Speaker 2: looked at all the one hundred game winners this century

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Speaker 2: from two thousand to twenty twenty three. Only they're thirty

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Speaker 2: five one hundred win teams. Only four had a better

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Speaker 2: winning percentage against losing teams. So the idea that this

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Speaker 2: is what everybody does. They're only winning because they're playing

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Speaker 2: teams with losing records. Even the really good teams this

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Speaker 2: century have not beaten the bad teams at a clip

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Speaker 2: like this. And I know you guys probably feel the

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Speaker 2: same way. I don't watch these games, even against the

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Speaker 2: losing teams and say, man, I'm telling you what, if

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Speaker 2: they were playing the Braves tonight, they would have they

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Speaker 2: would have gotten they would have won that game because

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Speaker 2: they are playing clean baseball for the most part. They

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Speaker 2: make a mistake here and there, but I'm not watching

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Speaker 2: these games going man, they are so lucky they're playing

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Speaker 2: the Nationals this weekend. They are so lucky they played

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Speaker 2: the White Sox this weekend. They are doing exactly what

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to do. And of those one hundred win teams,

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Speaker 2: you know, five won the World Series less century. Eight

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: But so they're they're they're not just beating bad teams,

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Speaker 2: they're beating them at at a rate that really good

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Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: So the go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So the one so, the one team that I played

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Speaker 1: the team in ninety five, the Cleveland Indians. We won

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Speaker 1: one hundred games out of one hundred and forty four.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. It was one hundred and forty four.

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Speaker 1: teams that they bashed. It wasn't a great pitching team.

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Speaker 1: The Phillies have a much much better starting rotation and

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Speaker 1: club had an amazing offense. You know, it had you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, some guys you could really really rake, and

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Speaker 1: they they racked up numbers, but it was like, like

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Speaker 1: you said, Jim, the team took like a one nothing leader,

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Speaker 1: exactly the feel I have with this team that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. They're gonna come back and do some

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Speaker 1: who it is. It's gonna be in Mondeseshosa or it's

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Speaker 2: I loved what Rob Thompson said the other day, I

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Speaker 2: think it was after the win on Wednesday night. He

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Speaker 2: what did they do, Well, they won one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty game. No, but what did they do at the end? Well,

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Speaker 2: I thought. I loved, loved, loved that answer because and

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Speaker 2: I really truly feel that that is the attitude in

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Speaker 2: the prize. They fell short the last two years late

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Speaker 2: in the postseason, talking to players in spring training, they

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Speaker 2: the World Series. I think that's hung with them. I

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Speaker 2: those hundred win teams is also another reminder that this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rob talks a lot about staying humble, and I

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Speaker 3: think it's a sound message, but I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: I still look at twenty twenty two, getting the Game

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Speaker 3: six of the World Series is a great accomplishment, sure,

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Speaker 3: but a little bit of a bonus. Last year I

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Speaker 3: think is the one that was the gut punch for

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Speaker 3: this team, and there's still sucking wind a little privately,

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Speaker 3: quietly sucking wind a little bit from it. And that's

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Speaker 3: the one that gnaws at them and is fueling this

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Speaker 3: have enough veterans to know that you've got to keep

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Speaker 3: It's still technically springtime, but it's all about what happens

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Speaker 3: in the fall for this team. So I don't have

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Speaker 3: any worry about the intangible qualities in that clubhouse. I

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Speaker 3: think I just think, you know, they are very, very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned about that. I think of the twenty

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Speaker 1: eleven team, you know, after we lost in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: I think that that next year. That's one of the

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Speaker 2: You go to Baseball reference page. You go, this guy's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Very they're very steady, like their manager's personality, just

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Speaker 3: Like turner, like turner. And wasn't Ed Delahanty the guy

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Speaker 1: I would absolutely have two outfielders that I know could

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Speaker 1: be center field type range guys to cover enough outfield

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Speaker 1: to be able to handle things. Because there's so much space.

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Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about the homers. It's about the rest

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Speaker 1: of us. You know, there's the gaps and the space.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much square footage. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, Philly's got that. They got Rojas and marsh and

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Speaker 2: maybe they threw a Pache out there. I'd still would

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Speaker 2: love to see that. I love seeing that idea of

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Speaker 2: those three guys out there at the same time running

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Speaker 2: balls down.

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Speaker 1: That would be fun for a game. Rubin, we got

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Speaker 1: a we had a reader question.

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Speaker 2: I want to go based off of something that you

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Speaker 2: said earlier this week on the broadcast, want to I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you about this. So Ranger Suarez pitches Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: our good friend John Gonzalez, former inquir former NBC Sports

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Speaker 2: Philly says, I was watching the game on Tuesday night

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Speaker 2: and a ranger Swarez leaves the game, and Ruben says, quote,

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Speaker 2: I would rub my whole body on him, just to

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Speaker 2: the luck he's got going going right now. I was

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Speaker 2: just wondering if Ruben could expand on that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, let's help our friend out, Gonzo.

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Speaker 1: So, so you know, you know that we are, as

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Speaker 1: baseball players, are the most superstitious people on the planet. Right.

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Speaker 1: You put your uniform on the same way you use

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Speaker 1: the Saint bat, the same bat and gloves, whatever the

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Speaker 1: case may be. You saw Bryce Harper take off as

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Speaker 1: bat and gloves after having three really terrible at bats

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Speaker 1: and then he goes walk home run. You know, you

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Speaker 1: change things up when things aren't going right. Well, if

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Speaker 1: a guy is hot and playing really well, you want

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Speaker 1: a little juju from that guy. So you get a

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Speaker 1: little body rub on him, you get you touch him

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Speaker 1: a little bit, give me some of that juju. Man.

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Speaker 1: I need to have some I need to get some luck,

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Speaker 1: you know. And uh. And so that was the premise

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Speaker 1: behind uh and the idea behind that. I think people

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Speaker 1: took it a little differently. But hey, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. If I was his teammate right now, I

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Speaker 1: would be up on him and I would be trying

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Speaker 1: to get some hits.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a beautiful visual if you are yeah,

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Speaker 3: well no it's not, but I mean luxuriating in his.

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Speaker 1: But it is.

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Speaker 2: It is so different because you see guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: grab other guys bats, and you know, never forget all

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Speaker 2: sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Never forget this story. Joe Blette is a short stop

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Speaker 5: for the Phillies years ago, and I came up with

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Speaker 5: him for a minute. I think it was ninety five

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Speaker 5: or ninety seven, Who knows when it was. Uh, maybe

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Speaker 5: it was ninety three. I don't know when Joe Molett

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Speaker 5: came to the.

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Speaker 1: Big leagues, but he was just had just come to

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Speaker 1: the big leagues and bats were out. We were on

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Speaker 1: the road anger we were Pittsburgh or Saint Louis or something,

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Speaker 1: and he picks up Lenny Dykster's bat, and he's like, wow, man,

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Speaker 1: this is a great bat. You know, the big leaguers

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Speaker 1: got the real good wood. You know, you looked at

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Speaker 1: the grains and it was a great you know. And

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Speaker 1: so he's looking at the bat and hold the bat,

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Speaker 1: and and Lenny Extra comes out of the dugout.

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Speaker 3: Don't you ever e f and touch that bat again.

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Speaker 1: You're the worst hitter I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Don't ever put.

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Speaker 1: That juju on my bat. I mean, get get your

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Speaker 1: get that lug off. He's like, you dropped the bat.

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Speaker 3: He was panicking.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's so funny, so great. The dude due

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Speaker 1: the dude. The dude was special. You talk about a

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Speaker 1: guy who was superstitious. If he didn't get a hit

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Speaker 1: in his first at bat, the dude would come back

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Speaker 1: into the clubhouse and literally stripped down to nothing and

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Speaker 1: throw everything out his whole uniform I'm talking about underwear, underwear, belt,

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Speaker 1: the whole gig and would go right into the freaking

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Speaker 1: trash and Frank Copenbarger would like, okay, he would like

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Speaker 1: sneakily pull it all out, and he thought thought it

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Speaker 1: was all gone. You know, you get all new new stuff,

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Speaker 1: new ship right, but now Frank would Frank would retrieve

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Speaker 1: most of it. But I mean, that's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: how it went. Man. It's a superstitious game, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys live a lot by some of those

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Speaker 1: superstitious And that's why I was rubbing up on Ranger

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Speaker 1: if I was gonna if that's I need some success.

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Speaker 2: Uh So this this weekend, Memorial Day weekend, Uh don't

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Speaker 2: forget to check out The Phillies Nation TV Show, which

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Speaker 2: debut is on Saturday, an hour before first Pitch on

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Speaker 2: NBC Sports Philadelphia. Greg Murphy, Sam Stafford and we will

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Speaker 2: be making weekly appearances on that the Philly Show. So

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Speaker 2: check that out again an hour before first pitch on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: NBC Sports Philadelphia. Memorial Day weekend always a fun weekend.

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Speaker 2: And I know my friend Jim Salisbury as well as

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Speaker 2: anybody I know, you've got something going on the grill, right,

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Speaker 2: You've got to have something planned this weekend. Gotta be

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Speaker 2: you love he loves the like Jimmy. Jimmy will come

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Speaker 2: back after like a long weekend like this and go,

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Speaker 2: I just I just made these sausage stuffed halopenios.

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Speaker 1: And they'll give me.

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Speaker 2: He'll give me the blow by blow.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy will give the blow by.

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Speaker 2: Blow, and then I sprinkle a little this on and

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Speaker 2: I do that. What do you got going on, jim

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Speaker 2: I know, I know you've got something going on on

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Speaker 2: the grill.

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Speaker 3: I'll be doing the stuffed halopenos later, maybe in September,

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Speaker 3: because I do the homegrown halopenos. And there in the garden,

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Speaker 3: I got uh, I got halapenos, I got cayenne, I

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Speaker 3: got my favorite pablano, and I have bel.

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Speaker 1: And he'll be.

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Speaker 3: What's up.

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Speaker 6: He'll be a help afraid to like to help a

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Speaker 6: brother out. Send some of the well they're you know,

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Speaker 6: they're just they're just starting. Oh yeah, I love peblanos, man,

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Speaker 6: They're so good stuffed. I just love pi banos and

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Speaker 6: stuffed halapenos on the grill. You gotta stuff them with

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Speaker 6: some cheese and some kind of brown the sausage and

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Speaker 6: jam it all in there and wrap it in bacon

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Speaker 6: toothpick put it on the grill so it's all blistery.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's good. But I'm kinda for Memorial Day weekend,

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Speaker 3: I might do a Monterey chicken sandwich on the grill.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I go get a nice.

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Speaker 3: I'll go up to see my buddy Rich Hill at

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Speaker 3: Colonial Village Meat Mark in Westchester, Ding, Ding, Ding, And

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Speaker 3: that's not a great sponsorship. Oh sorry, I'll no.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm joking. I'm joking.

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Speaker 2: I just you really like this, getlity.

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Speaker 3: I'll get some chicken dies. He's got nice big ones

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Speaker 3: and uh, season those up. Put him on the grill,

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Speaker 3: a little dab of barbecue and barbecue sauce and let

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Speaker 3: it get a little singy, a little more barbecue sauce,

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Speaker 3: and then I put Monterey Monterey jack cheese on it.

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Speaker 3: Let it get melty. And you take that off the grill.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a thick slab of bacon and nice slice

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Speaker 3: of tomato, maybe some pickles and onions and nice soft

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Speaker 3: roll round roll. That's a Moneray chicken grilled Monterey chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 3: And that might be my that might be my go

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Speaker 3: to for Memorial Day.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's fantasticis.

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Speaker 2: We'll recap with you on Monday, Jim, What do you

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Speaker 2: got going? You know what. I haven't figured it out yet,

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Speaker 2: but one thing I do like to do is make

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Speaker 2: an afternoon cocktail. So I've started making these things called

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Speaker 2: cherry bourbon slushies. What, yes, cherry bourbon slushies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give it up.

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Speaker 2: It's frozen cherries, a little orange juice, concentrate, a lot

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Speaker 2: of ice, a lot of bourbon. Put them in the blender.

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Speaker 2: They are so good and they go down real nice,

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Speaker 2: real nice, Yeah, real nice. I'll give you a recap

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Speaker 2: up on that on Monday as well or early next

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Speaker 2: week when we come back. So that was fun, guys,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, we'll be back next week. Phillies Rockies. This

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Speaker 2: weekend Phillies Nation TV. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Spelling Ladd. Guys, have a great weekend, Spelly Jim.

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