1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: You have to earn the respect of the writers, for sure. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean that was That's part of the whole thing. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: You know, If you just keep showing up and you 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: keep putting yourself on leaterboards and you keep getting asked 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: in the tent, eventually they start like asking serious questions 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: and they care what you say, you know, And I 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: think that's the same with the fans. I think it's 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: unfortunate that people don't know some of these guys. But 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: no one knows unless you're Tiger Woods and you have 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: an ESPN sort of junior career, Like nobody knows who 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: these kids are, so that you have to earn the 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: respect of the writers. And then if you earn the 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: affect of the writers and the TV, then you were 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: in the respect of the fans and then off you go. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's the ruthless world, but I guess 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: it's the meritocracy with the sport that we play with. 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Put another log on the fire what are here? Give 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: it time? Hello, and welcome back to another Fire Drill podcast. 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: It is deep into the first round here at the 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: US Open. Sitting to my left is Michael Bamberger. To 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: my right is Ryan French across the ocean is Jeff 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Ogilvie and quite an interesting first day. The late great 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Dan Jenkins used the word lurkers a lot. We're talking 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: about first round leaderboard. There's certainly some unexpected names. We've 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: got Rory Jt. We have Matt fitz Patrick, another world 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: class player. Jeff, tell us what you think of this 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: leaderboard and just first impressions of the first round. Well, yeah, 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, lakas is a pretty good word. I mean, 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I guess the first round of the US Open, you 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: never work out who's gonna win, but you probably work 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: out who isn't gonna win. Um, so you lose a 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: few people that you may have thought that were a chance. Um, 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: But most of the players that we expected played pretty well. Um. 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: It's nice to say Rory have a good first round 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: in a major. Um. He's obviously up and about. He's 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: sort of pretty motivated at the moment. At same he's 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: sort of as Johnty is he ever been and sort 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: of seems pretty motivated and fired up to play well. 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool to see him player first good 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: first round because his first round scoring average and majors 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: has been awful. The last quite a long time, so 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: good to see and he's dangerous when he's up there 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: at the front. J T looks like he's playing really 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: really well. Um Fitzpatrick's back there again in the major 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, um interesting cours looks brutal. I mean, 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's quite a few guys under par 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: but it does have that sort of they're not getting 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: very far under power, and it does look like that 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: sort of thing that they're just going to start gradually 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: every day you're gonna have slightly less under power. And 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: can anyone be there at the end of the week. Yeah, Bryan, 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: you were out there tracking your guys and this is 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: actually your dream leaderboard. Mr Monday q info. I mean 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: the casual fan wants the stars. I know you love 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: the unknown, so you must be enjoying this. Yeah. I enjoy. 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Not only do I enjoy the leaderboard, I enjoy all 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: the report like this is my first time in the 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: media center, and I enjoyed the disdain of all the 59 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: all of all the things there. I have to tell 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: a quick story, so uh, the reporter shell remain nameless. 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: But behind me Eric Barnes, who's had a lot of 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: publicity based off of a tweet and story I wrote. 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Um chipped in for Eagle, and a reporter behind me goes, 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know who that is, and the guys 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: wrapped up his tour card on the corn Ferry tour 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: like I mean, let's be better than that, You know 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. But this board is a perfect and 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I love that everyone else hates it. Well, I think 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: you've diagnosed it accurately, which is a lot of reporters, 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: just like a lot of fans, are a little bit lazy, 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: and they don't want to have to make the effort 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: they just wanted. They know the big names, and they 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: know the their storylines and their struggles, and it requires 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: investing a lot of time and effort into a bunch 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of these other people, and they don't want to make 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: that effort. So I think your critique is accurate. It's 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: really it's it's disdained because they have to work harder. 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Here is this is a semi serious, uh take? Is 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: Hayden Buckley is a tour player, very good, had a 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: good college career, played well. Today they bring him to 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: the media center. It was me and Kevin Price, Okay, 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: two people like they don't even I mean, I understand 83 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: all of you guys have been through that nine percent 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: of the time. Haydn Buckley is not gonna win the 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: US Open, but I mean it's twenty ft away. So 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I ask the kid and like learned about his story. 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: So on Sunday, if he does win, you already know it. 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: I would chip in there and say it's it's Alan 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and Michael's fault. And there peers because they tell us 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: that the only people worth watching they've been telling his 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: fee is the only people worth watching in the top ten, 92 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: top fifty in the world. That's I think what you're saying, 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: the live tour is Alan and Michael's and everybody else's 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: fault because they're saying, hey, we just need to have 95 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: forty eight players and that's it. We can hear you. 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Guys were part of this podcast. You know that, right, 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: I can hear you. Uh Well, my rebuttal to that was, 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: let's see how Haydon Buckley does on Friday. Now, if 99 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you're still there, then name the bet then we'll see. 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: Um we will name it after this podcast. Yeah, let 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: me think of that. Michael. Well, welcome to the podcast, Michael. Yeah, 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: until one quick a music something about that. Jeff, Jeffy 103 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: wait too young for this. But my friend Mike Donald, Uh, 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: he shot at first round. I think I've got it wrong. 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say sixty four, but that can't be wrong 106 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: at wingfoot and eighty four and Arnold was playing, and 107 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Big Jack and Tom Watson everybody, and he you know, 108 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: he came in at six pm and the only person 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: write him up was Tim Roseford and he wrote the 110 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: hell out of it. Uh. And Tim Roosefort known for 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: his hustle and his his curiosity. So kudos to Tim 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: rosa four and you know, well, Jeff was tough. Yeah. 113 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: Were you ever in this position? Where were you ever 114 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the guy? Uh? At some point in your career when 115 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: you're starting out where like nobody was expecting you to 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: have a maybe an Australian Opener or a major. Uh, 117 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: well it wouldn't happen to Australia, I don't think. But 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: you had a Thursday round that nobody was expecting and 119 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: suddenly all eyes are on you. Were you in that 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: position yourself? Every um future I lead I've shot sixty 121 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: three or four in the first round at Callaway Gardens, 122 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: the Old Southern Open, two thousand and one, UM, and 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: that was my first year out there, but I've had 124 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: a few good tournaments. It wasn't a surprise. That's the thing. 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: You definitely feel when you're one of these guys, the 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: the disrespect, I think from the general feeling of like, 127 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: we have to talk to this guy, he's not going 128 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: to be there at the end. You can feel that 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: energy when you come in there when you're that guy, 130 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: like it's I understand it, Like I completely understand it. 131 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Because you're all going to write stuff and you read 132 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: it is gonna go who's this guy? You're not gonna 133 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: write about him? Like I understand that, um thing. And 134 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: you've stood up and probably listened to twenty five of 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: the great the prima donnas get up there and pontificate 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: about their things. So you're just done with those guys. 137 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: But you definitely have that feeling when you're not one 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: of those guys when you come in the media center 139 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: that no one's really interested and they're just standing there 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: because they're supposed to. You know, Um, you have to 141 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: earn the respect of the writers for sure. I mean 142 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: that was um, that's part of the whole you know, 143 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: if you just keep showing up, and you keep putting 144 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: yourself on later boards and you keep getting asked in 145 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: the tent. Eventually they start like asking serious questions and 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: they care what you say, you know, And I think 147 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that's the same with the fans. I think it's unfortunate 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: that people don't know some of these guys. But no 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: one knows unless you're Tiger Woods and you have an 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: ESPN sort of junior career, Like nobody knows who these 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: kids are, so that you have to earn the respect 152 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: of the riders. And then if you earned affect of 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: the riders and the TV, then you were in the 154 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: respect of the fans and then off you go. You know, 155 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: it's it's the ruthless world. But I guess it's the 156 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: meritocracy with the sport that we play with. Interesting. Yeah, 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: this whole this whole podcast is gonna change my entire 158 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: professional career. I'm going to those press conference. I'm gonna 159 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: start writing these kids up. I feel bad like you 160 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: guys have shamed you've shamed me. I mean, two people 161 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: were there and there's no two bigger kaufnors in the 162 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: world than Kevin Brice and myself, and but you must 163 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: have been so happy because I'm sure your guys are 164 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: familiar faces like that must have been a great sense 165 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: of comfort that you were The two dews were a 166 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: quick side note, Kevin using Kevin used the microphone to 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: ask a question. It was my favorite part of the 168 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: entire press conference is that there was only two people 169 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: in the room and he used the microphone. Jeff, how's this? 170 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: How's this golf course showing up on TV? It looks great. 171 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: It looks like a very old school, traditional US Open? 172 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Done it? I mean, um, we had I don't know 173 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: in the last decade, We've had a few different ones, 174 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: you know. Um, but this looks yeah, old school US Open, 175 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: as I said, the leaderboard, not necessarily the names, I 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: mean the names, it looks pretty normal. Is normally, um, 177 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: a few big names and a few that you haven't 178 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: heard of an US Open, right, that's the nature of 179 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the field. Um it. Yeah, it looks kind of normal. 180 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Looks like it's going to be one of those ones 181 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: that everyone sort of gradually drifts back and it's who 182 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: hangs on, you know. It's got that feel about It 183 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: looks like a grind. It looks like there's birdies out there, 184 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: which they're usually or they can often be in that 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: traditional US Open Thursday. I'm sure it'll get tougher every day, 186 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: doesn't I don't think there's any rain in the forecast, 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: so it's going to get as firm as they wanted 188 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: to get. It's um hopefully stays within the realm of 189 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: like sensible, you know, but it looks great right now. 190 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of it looks like a perfect US Open 191 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: from afar watching it on to you day at this point. Well, 192 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: and today was overcast and almost a little cool, and 193 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: that obviously is going to keep some moisture in the course. 194 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: But tomorrow high eighties and it's going to be by 195 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: far the hottest day of the week. People. You know, 196 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: the players talk about how a course can change from 197 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: day to day, but I think the casual fan has 198 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: trouble really understanding that. Jeff, can you talk about how 199 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: much of course can evolve in just twenty four hours 200 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and if you have an extreme example of that? Oh yeah, 201 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, um, firstly, the grains, I mean the grains 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: are so stressed. Well well, well, I mean firstly, the weather, 203 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: like you say, overcast, not much wind, it's a very 204 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: it's a nice temperature. It's a great sort of environment 205 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: to play golf, and sun comes out, a little bit 206 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: of wind looked like it looks what happens this afternoon. 207 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: It's just there's another element to the thing, to the 208 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: the ball flight changes a little bit when the temperature 209 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: warms up. The wind obviously adds sort of an element 210 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: of difficulty. Um greens gradually generally firm up during the 211 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: day because the irrigation, if they are putting any water 212 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: on the greens at night, it doesn't go on after 213 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: the first group or from after about five in the morning, 214 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: so naturally it's just sort of evaporates and dries out 215 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: during the day, so they're at their firmness at the 216 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: end of the day, so you can see it change 217 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: in front of you. And a normal PGA two, of course, 218 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: is a relatively docile set up, I would say, compared 219 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: to these things. It's not pushing the course to its 220 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,479 Speaker 1: absolute limit. But when you push green, especially greens and fairways, 221 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: you're cutting them really short and you're pushing them to 222 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: their limit. They are right on the edge. So they die. 223 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: They're they're on the edge of dying really quickly. I mean, 224 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: they're not dying but they feel like that because it's 225 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: just a lack of water there and the leaf sort 226 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: of dries out and it's um. It can really change 227 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: from morning group to afternoon group, and then day to 228 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: day even it's even more so. You know, it's like 229 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: it feels like Thursday, it takes still after lunch for 230 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: it to start getting sort of unchy and hard, and 231 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: then Friday it's eleven o'clock and Thursday it's a little 232 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: bit earlier. It seems to happen a little bit earlier 233 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: every day in these u s opens and then Sunday 234 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: it's just like brutal from the first group, you know, 235 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: which is how they like it. And I think that's 236 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: how these Great Championship should be. I think you're trying 237 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: to sort the week from the chaff, and you're trying 238 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: to get the creamed to rise to the top. And 239 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that the firmer and more sort of krusty 240 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: golf course gets towards the end. You do that, you know. 241 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: The most extreme thing, I think Pebble Beach when um 242 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Gary Woodland one when was at ten nineteen no the 243 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: one before that, then umah Dald two, thous Gray mcdowal 244 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: the Graam mcdowe was incredible. I mean, the pebbles always 245 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: sort of cloudy in the morning and carmel as you 246 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: know Alan, and then at some point every day that 247 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: week the sun would come out and they have those 248 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: power greens out there, and there's apparently there's multiple varieties 249 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: of that grass in those greens which you can't tell 250 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: when the sun was out, and they were perfect in 251 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: the morning, but as soon as the sun came out, 252 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: there was one particular variety of that grass. It just 253 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: laid down and went brown, and so you had all 254 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: these like low bits and high bits, and all of 255 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, just like ten minutes after the sun came out, 256 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: the greens completely changed and they were almost unpossible, and 257 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: then the morning they were fantastic until the sun came out. 258 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: So um, that one was the most extreme change absolutely. 259 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: But I mean when fort the wing Foot, the year 260 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: i won the morning group to the afternoon group, putting 261 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: on the greens was incredibly My afternoon round on Thursday 262 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: was just outrageously difficult to put on, and then morning 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: on Friday they were like Christine and perfect. So when 264 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: you get these stressed out on the edge greens, they 265 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: just take footprints harder, they just take where harder, and 266 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: they just get sort of the moisture goes out and 267 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: by the end of the day and they get that 268 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: sort of shiny look where people are stepping and stuff, 269 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: and they can deteriorate in front of your eyes. Actually, 270 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to say that's a bad thing, 271 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: as I said, I think that's a really good thing, um, 272 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: because you're trying to sort out the men from the boys, 273 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: and usually the good part of the whole parts in 274 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: those situations stuff. But yeah, it does incredible the difference 275 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: from Thursday morning the Sunday afternoon and the US Open 276 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and a normal, traditional good weather US Open. It's amazing 277 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: the difference. And to your point about about Pebble being, 278 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, its own micro clemate as they always say 279 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: they're in ninety two, the same thing happened when Tom 280 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Kite one and people are congratulating Calm Montgomery and winning, 281 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and I don't recall what it was, but a monsoon 282 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: of wind came in, if there is such a phrase, 283 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: it was it was a totally different golf course and 284 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: was hanging on for dear life, for for for everybody. 285 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: And that's part of the greatness of the Open Championship. 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: But you know, the day is so long, everybody's playing 287 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: off the first tea, and you know, as it's it's 288 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: said every year, you know where you are in the 289 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: drawshet Thursday Friday will often affect where you are Sunday afternoon. 290 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: If you're even playing by Sunday afternoon. Well, you say, 291 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: that's the greatness that watching this about the Open chev 292 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: If you're a player that's sort of you get very 293 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: unlucky in the Open Championsip. It turns you know, as 294 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: you are, you get a little jaded. If you get 295 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: a couple of bad opens in a row, would you 296 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: have a two? Would you have? You're right? But if 297 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: you run the RNA, would you have a two tea 298 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: start for for the Open Championship? You know what I 299 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: mean now that I'm ah, I don't know. I mean 300 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: I think, look, great players when they open, generally the 301 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: right player wins and the right players are up there. 302 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: It works out in the long run, right, And if 303 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: you get a couple of randoms, you get a cup 304 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: of randoms. I mean, Louis, you had the dreamy drawer 305 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: the old course in OH five, was I mean, you 306 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: just had an incredible draw, but like history has proven 307 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: that he was the right winner, you know. So, I mean, 308 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: it sucks when you get the bad draw, but it's 309 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: it's just part of that tournament. It's just it's it's 310 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: part of what gives it that tournament. It's quirk if 311 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: you like. But it would be so different think about 312 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: the links courses like like maybe like Troon where all 313 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: the holes go in one direction on the front and 314 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: a different direction on the back. If you started on ten, 315 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: it's such a different rhythm and a different experience you're 316 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: preaching to the converter. I would never want to change 317 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: anything about the Open, you know. And it's so interesting 318 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: how different the philosophies are. And you know, Jeff, as 319 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: you've gotten to know U. S J people over there 320 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: and wondering if you can speak to this by once 321 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: heard Mike Davis say in an unguarded moment, I can 322 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: have any winning score I want. And I'm just wondering, Joe, 323 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: how do they feel about two eighty Do they have 324 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: some special relationship with that number of the U s 325 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: J people. Do you have a sense of that. They 326 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: certainly seem to have a preoccupation with par like what 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: is part? They want to make part a very valuable thing, 328 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: make it very difficult to shoot even part for the week. 329 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: They don't seem to like us making birdies too much. 330 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I like and I think that's great at 331 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: most courses, at a course at the country club, obviously 332 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: you can set it up sensibly and have that sort 333 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: of score shot. Sometimes you go to places that you 334 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: have to get really a bit out of control to 335 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: get people to shoot that score. And I think that's 336 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: ellier then when I think when good when really really 337 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: good shots are getting punished and making bogs and doubles, 338 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't like it, you know, I just don't think 339 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: that's right. But generally, and I'm not out there this week, 340 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a couple of the boys who have 341 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: had some high numbers might disagree, but it looks like 342 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: if you play well, you'll have a reasonable score. And 343 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: I think I don't think any player can have a 344 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: real fair complaint that if you're hitting good shots, they're 345 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: getting kind of rewarded. You a really good shots that 346 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: should be really good shots. Um. But if you get 347 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: good shots all week, you should get rewarded. If you're 348 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: good shots and get punished, which happens. It's happened a 349 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: few times. We've seen that that's a bit over the top. 350 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: Um So I think they're a little probably too preoccupied 351 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: with the score we shoot. But for the most part, 352 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: they do a reasonable job at it. I think just 353 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you go to these historic golf clubs that have 354 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: these reputations, and I feel sometimes the club has such 355 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: a such a sort of an ego issue with anyone 356 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: shooting underpar. That has to be hard. Oak mots hard, 357 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: so we have to make it harder than it's ever 358 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: been before, and jocks hard, so it's gonna be harder 359 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: than it's ever been before. I think when you go 360 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: to these new venues that don't have that history, I 361 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: think the us j I end up getting to set 362 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: it up kind of how they want. But I think 363 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: when you go to these traditional venues, I think sometimes 364 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: there's some kick back from the club to make sure 365 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: that it's actually hard enough. Yeah, the commentary and when 366 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: Bryson won at Wingfoot was hilarious, like on Twitter, Oh, 367 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: say your prayer for the Wingfoot members, you know, because 368 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: the scores were low and he was kind of taking 369 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: apart the golf course. But um, anyway that that's an 370 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: interesting discussion. Just you want to add, but just you know, 371 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: it's so nice to come here and see just a 372 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: proper golf course. And just to your point, Jeff, I 373 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: remember two US Opens, particularly um Pinehurst the year that 374 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Michael Campbell won and Marrying the Earth that justin Rose one. 375 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: The moment you arrived and looked at the golf course, 376 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: it's like, this is not what the golf you were both, 377 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: weren't you, Jeff, Just to my eye, having been there 378 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: under normal conditions a lot over the years, the golf 379 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: course didn't look like it's supposed to look like like 380 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how else to word. 381 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: It just didn't look the golf course. It looked like 382 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: they had manipulated the golf course to make two eighty 383 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: or something right around there the winning score. And I 384 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: don't think that's I think it's a shame. Really, we've 385 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: evolved as golfers. I mean it's we're using metal woods 386 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: and better balls and better equipment and everything is better. 387 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: And it's like you go play Marian where there really 388 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: isn't much room to make it much bigger Um, we're 389 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: going to shoot lower. We just are. That's just just 390 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the nature of sport. I mean, like we wouldn't watch 391 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: the hundred meters of the Olympics if they weren't getting 392 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: faster every time, you know. Like, I know it's a 393 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: little different in Gulf, but um, when you have to 394 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: manipulate a course to force a score, you're right. I mean, 395 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: Marian just got a bit narrow. I thought it was 396 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: a fantastic open, but I just got a bit narrow 397 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: because it was just they were a bit scared because 398 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: it felt a bit small. You know. Um that year 399 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: with Michael Campbell's was way too narrow, and I mean 400 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: just like little alleyways. It just didn't look really like 401 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: a like like like a proper golf course. Do you 402 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: do you think, Jeff, the extra old factors influences how 403 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: the us j would set up of course. For instance, 404 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I think the last thing the usg would need right now, 405 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: with everything going on in the political landscape of golf, 406 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: is for their setup of their course to become the story. 407 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you think they would go out of the way 408 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that doesn't happen. No, I don't know. 409 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: They generally seem to go out of their way to 410 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: make sure that does happen. Um, so that would be 411 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: against tradition. Um, I don't know. Obviously, they want to 412 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: really really good positive like, wow, how good is the 413 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: US Open? How good is the U s g A. 414 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: Look at this, The traditions of the game are great. 415 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's coincidental or ironic or really handy that 416 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: it's maybe the oldest golf club that we play golf 417 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: tournaments out. It's one of the most historic venues. It's like, um, 418 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: one of the founding clubs of the U s g 419 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: A at this sort of time when golf sort of 420 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: doing what it's doing. So, um, it's good timing for 421 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the U. S g A. And it looks like they've 422 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: nailed it, I mean, got three days to go. But um, yeah, 423 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I think they would have been conscious about let's just 424 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: let's fingers cross, we can make this just a great 425 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: attractive US Open, that it just gets everyone excited about 426 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: the traditions of golf and how good the US Open 427 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: is right well, And I mean the class example is 428 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: they screw up Shinnikock and oh for the club almost 429 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: never wants to come back. They finally get to go 430 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: back in in eighteen to prove they can do it right, 431 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and they have another controversy there and there's some pin 432 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, places positions were on the edge, and like, 433 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: well it was warmer and windier than we thought. You're 434 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: right by the ocean. It's always windy in the afternoon. 435 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: Like it was so absurd. But so Ryan, let me 436 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: get your take on just the feeling on the grounds 437 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: out there. You know, first round, there's uh, did you 438 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: what did you see? What did you hear? And what 439 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: was kind of just the feeling for and what's it 440 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: like to be at a US open for you Yeah, 441 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: when it really counts now, Yeah, I mean it was. 442 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: It's awesome. It is awesome. But I was, I mean 443 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: it's pretty subdued out there today. I mean part of 444 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: that is, I think it's not a rate spectator course, 445 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: so a lot of you know, there's not a lot 446 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: of big, huge grandstands. There's when people are standing around 447 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: the green, it's six or seven deep, so they're they're 448 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: not seeing the shots. But so I was, I mean, considering, 449 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: I know, it will get more rowdy as we go 450 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: and people start to separate themselves and everybody starts to 451 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: take divisions and all those, but I was a little 452 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: disappointed with the atmosphere if I mean, obviously I'm following 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: people were, you know, out of the the main part 454 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: of the draw, but there was not like a lot 455 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: of roars. There wasn't a lot of yelling out. It 456 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: was it's kind of subdued in my opinion. I totally agree. 457 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: And I was following Rory on his back nine. Who 458 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: as you come from the Irish Island, you're playing in Boston, 459 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: you're you're already gonna have fans and he's Rory Mocroy. 460 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Everyone loves him and he was leading the tournament and 461 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: it was actually a little quiet. I mean, the grandstands 462 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: are small and some of them were only half full. 463 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: There's because as other are like Culton, other were men 464 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: of the people, were not coastal elites. We didn't go 465 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: inside the ropes and we were just walking with the 466 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: fans and it's messy, like there are a lot of 467 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: choke points were used to be inside the ropes, so 468 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: we got stranded a half dozen times in the wrong plays. 469 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: And hats off to the golf fans because it is 470 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: a really challenging course and if you get on the 471 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: wrong side of the green or a fairway. You can't 472 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: see anything, and it's hard to get here. It's hard, well, 473 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get here. Like as you know, 474 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach is not easy. Pine, It's not easy, but 475 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: this one seems particularly difficult. And I mean I don't go. 476 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've gone to a lot of PGA Tour 477 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: events in my over my life, but it's been a 478 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: like I go to offense with none. There's a lot 479 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: of dead ends. Like somehow I get up to the 480 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: thing and I'm like, oh, I just want to go 481 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: to the green. No I had inside the ropes. Humble 482 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: bragging again, but uh, like there's a lot of dead ends. 483 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I was walking with uh Luke Annon's wife today and 484 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: where and she had outside, you know, just a regular 485 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: thing and like you'd walk up in this so they 486 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't have to cross over. I mean again, credit to 487 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: people who actually really try to follow people instead of 488 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: just sit at a green and wait for people to 489 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: come to them. Yeah, it's it's a tough here, but 490 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: there is hope because my warriors are going to beat 491 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: the Celtics to night. There's gonna be a lot of 492 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: grouchy Bostonians tomorrow. I think they'll bring a different edge 493 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: to the spectating tomorrow. But Ryan, to your point, I'd 494 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: like to ask this of Jeff. I have never thought 495 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: of the US Open as an I don't really think 496 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: of any professional golf is as entertainment at all. I 497 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: think of him athletic endeavors. But of all the majors, 498 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and of all tournament golf, this one is the least entertaining. 499 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: It's not meant to be entertaining. It's you know, it's 500 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: been said a million times. It is a war of attrition. 501 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: It is a you know, a test of mental strength, 502 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of other things. And so to your right, 503 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: trying to your to your point, like, I kind of 504 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, there's sort of something slow and 505 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: boring and methodical about a US Open. I've always enjoyed 506 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: that at U s Opens, even though it's not entertaining. 507 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: But I don't know, Jeff, you have a feeling about 508 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: what we're trying to talk about her, Yeah, I get it. 509 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Um, I can't really speak. I've never been 510 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: to US Open, not playing, so I can only speak 511 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: from inside. Um. And they all vary, they're all different, 512 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: you know about a humble bread. I think I think 513 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: he's just standing the facts. Like I got to use 514 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: opens to playing them masters. I asked, Jeff, if you've 515 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: ever gone over and played, you know, Palmetto. He's like, no, Termine, 516 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: we I just play Augusta. Nashvill's like, oh yeah, yeah, right, 517 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: my bad. I'm sorry, And that's a good course. But 518 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Palmetto is good too, anyway, continued Jeff Um. I think generally, 519 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: I think sometimes in new as opens, the the fans 520 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: and the spectators aren't really sure what to make of 521 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: what's going on out there. I think it's really difficult 522 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: to have a sense because to to probably the average 523 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: fan who's not really in tune with PJ tour events 524 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: and doesn't go to a lot of them, from the 525 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: side of the fairway, it probably looks the same as 526 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: every other thing. They think what we what pros do 527 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: is miraculous anyway, the way they play, so they're just 528 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: happy to see it. They're probably I think sometimes in 529 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: the US Open it takes the spectators a while to 530 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: work out what a good shot actually is, um and 531 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: what a good score actually is, because it's so different 532 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: from what they say or these guys are making bogies 533 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: and hitting at the forty two putting like it's not 534 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: really like you're in the desert or at a normal 535 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: PJ Tour event. Right. So, I think as the week 536 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: goes on, generally, the respect for so those great up 537 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 1: and downs and the respect for the the fore iron 538 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: that goes to thirty ft, it's there because it's been 539 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: earned during the week. But I think it takes a 540 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: while for the fan to get educated about what good 541 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: golf is out of the U S Open, because it's 542 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: so different. That is a very good point. Today I 543 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: was following lukein and there were some people, uh, just 544 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: around the green that he was. He shortsighted himself. He 545 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: was in the back of the bunker. Was I mean impossible. 546 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Given a hundred balls, he couldn't have kept it within 547 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: seven feet and he kept it in seven ft within 548 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: seven feet. I mean even he like laughed when he 549 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: got you know, the kind of shot when you get 550 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: out of the bunk and you're like, Okay, that was ridiculous, 551 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: never do again. And the guys behind them go, now, 552 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: I know why he's in the last group. Yeah, And 553 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that was probably Tiger Woods would have 554 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: been excited about that show. Yeah. To Jeff's point, I mean, 555 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: if if you you know you've got a crumby line 556 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: the first cut, and you chase a hooded six iron 557 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: right up the middle and run some of the green, 558 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: you got forty ft two put that's great golf. But 559 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: it's not entertaining. But if you know something about golf, like, yeah, 560 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: that's good. It's fun. It's not fun fun, but it's 561 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: interesting fun. And it's true because when I was out 562 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: there playing in a parallel fairway to Rory was a 563 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: guy I didn't recognize him by sight. I mean, I qualifier, 564 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: he's probably hasn't made his way in the world of 565 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: golf yet, and he kind of fooled one out of 566 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: the rough, didn't go very far, and you get the 567 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: fans like, oh yeah, it was almost a sense of embarrassment, 568 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: like this guy is not a very good golfer. But 569 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: in reality, that's just the US Open. He had a 570 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: horrendous lie. He did the best he could. But there's 571 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: definitely as a golf fan, you see shots you're not 572 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna see any other time all year long, where guys 573 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: just getting kicked in the teeth, and but it does, 574 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: it does subdue them, like oh damn, yes, yeah, and 575 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: so I get it. Um, all from when you watched 576 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: on TV today, you probably saw someone Rory. He seems 577 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: tighter than he used to be, like like the bad shots, 578 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: frustrated more than they used to just in terms of 579 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: how he physically responds to them and the good shots. 580 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: He seems like, well, you know, that's what I'm supposed 581 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: to do. It just looks a little different than he 582 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: used to do. You ever thought about that, man, Yeah, 583 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: he's trying to save the PGA tour. It's a lot 584 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: of heavy burden, heavy burden. Yeah, I like it. I 585 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: thought it was great. I thought it was great. I 586 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: thought Rory looks like he actually really wants to win. Um, 587 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: he sometimes looks, well, I don't know, every everybody has 588 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: different looks, right, And he's had a career of just 589 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: being jaunty and happy and taking it all in his stride. 590 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: But um, he really really really wants to win this. 591 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: You can tell, like you beat the bunker up a 592 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: little bit there on that one hole, and Um, to 593 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: your point, he looked different. It was more tiger like. 594 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, um, just he is into this 595 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: more than we've seen him into it for a while. 596 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, last week, you've got a feeling that was 597 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: one of his favorite wins. Obviously he just loved that. 598 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: It was like a bit of a stamp. I look, 599 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm actually the best player, come on, guys, Like, what 600 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: are you guys talking about? Um? And it seems like 601 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: he's got a real sort of fire and his belly 602 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: at the moment. And I think that's a good sign 603 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: for Rory. I think a lot of players, I mean, 604 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Doctor Teller and all that. They all might tell me 605 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but there's a lot of players that seem 606 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: to be better when they're just on edge a little bit, 607 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, like there's just sort of a bit of 608 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: a fire and as long as you can control it 609 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: and it doesn't affect your next shot. I kind of 610 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed saying that from Rory. I think he'd be better 611 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more into it more often, 612 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, You know, of course that Augusta they 613 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: have that Tuose night dinner and they all talk about 614 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: their former Masters wins. Have you ever had a conversation 615 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: with Rory, with Tiger, with any former US Open winner 616 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: where like you could see, Oh, there's we're on the 617 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: same wavelength here. There's something that we both understand in 618 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: about what how are you when a US Open and 619 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: what it means when are you US Open that you 620 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: would have been privy to that you know another golfer 621 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: might not have been there. Certainly is an understanding or 622 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: a feeling. I mean in nineteen last time we were 623 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: at Pebble, we had the reunion again where everyone was 624 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: there everyone, I think a except a couple, um, the 625 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: alive US Open champions. We have a dinner and take 626 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: a photo and it was a fantastic It's a fantastic occasion. 627 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: We all played a lot of US played Cyprus that week, 628 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: so again another humble brag, but um, you do. There 629 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: is sort of a I don't think it's necessarily just 630 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: exclusive to US Open champions, but those who have sort 631 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: of won those big tournaments, there is sort of this 632 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: not unsaid, but this feeling of respect for the people 633 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: that you're talking to about the game, and when maybe 634 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: in the locker room sometimes when everyone starts talking, you 635 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: might tune out a little bit, but you don't tune 636 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: out when you're listening to guys like that. I mean 637 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 1: even like Scott Simpson and Andy North starts talking and 638 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: these guys you just listen to strange. You just you 639 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: just listen, and there is this sort of feeling of 640 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: just deep respect for these guys that they've done that 641 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and they've been through. They went through that what I 642 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: went through, and they came through. And that's um, I think, 643 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, because you know how hard it is that 644 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: you give the ultimate respect to those who do it. 645 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure the green jacket, the green coat, whinners, it's 646 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: the masters are the same, you know, they have the 647 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: same sort of thing amongst themselves. Um, but yeah, there 648 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: is a level of respect for guys who have won 649 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: this tournament. That's ah. Yeah, I don't know what do 650 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: you call it the brocade or something, but it's yeah, 651 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: it's nice. It's nicety, humble brag about that day at 652 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: Surper's Point. Happen to be there as a as a spectator, 653 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: and Lee Trevino showed up without clubs, looking tired and said, 654 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Mr Trevino, can I get you a cup of coffee? 655 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: He said that would be great, and I got a 656 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: cup of coffee and he was happy. I love it. 657 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Also, it warms my heart that you're mentioning, 658 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: mentioning Andy Bean, like I haven't heard that name a 659 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: long time. But the the the respect that Jeff has 660 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: for someone who's been in the arena like that, that's 661 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: just cool. And being Randy North, well, he said Andy North, 662 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: but I have an Andy Bean story, so he said 663 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Andy North. He's you know, you know, I was checking 664 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: the scores out my phone. Apolo, do you know you 665 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: know what Jeff? We mentioned Andy North in this context 666 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: because he wants to us open this. Yeah, I do know, 667 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: Andy North. My apologies got across and thing was Bermuda 668 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: grass greens. We all know that Andy Bean. I was 669 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: like nine years old. I don't remember this story, but 670 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: my dad tells it a lot until he can't remember 671 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: anything anymore. But we're at the eighty six. Uh, I 672 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: think it was eighty six Oakland Hills and Andy Bean, 673 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Uh eighty five, Okay, I was eight years old. Andy 674 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Bean hits a shot into the green and it like 675 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: slowly trickles off the false front all the way down 676 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: to the bottom, and uh, he gives the finger to 677 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: the green and my dad yells at him, there's kids 678 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: out here, and Andy Bean turned around and says, fuck 679 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: you wow that I mean, So, that's the beauty of 680 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the US Open right there. That would have happened at 681 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: the Bob Hope Classic. Right like that. You want to 682 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: push the players to the breaking point. That's the whole 683 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: that's the whole purpose of this tournament. So that is 684 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: a glaring example, Um, any anyone else on the leaderboard 685 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: that we should discuss. Don't you have a like? You're 686 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: the only person on the planet with like an A 687 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: plus David Lingmouth story, Mark Baldwin, I'm kidding from Mark Baldwin. 688 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: We're the first alternative at a corn Fairy event in 689 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: Vegas and Matt Every withdress. Thank you Matt Every and uh, 690 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: we get in a group with Eric Compton, who is 691 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: very slow, and David Lingmerth, who is as slow, and 692 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: so we're on the clock most of the day and 693 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Mark is not very slowly. It's methodical, but not slow. 694 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: And between every hole a different player would walk with us. 695 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: So when we were walking with Compton, he would say, God, 696 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: David Lingmerth is so fucking slow. He's terrible. I can't 697 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: believe it. I can't play like this. And then the 698 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: next hole we'd be walking with Lingmerth, and Lingmerth would 699 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: say that comptony is terribly slow. I can't believe it. 700 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: And they got into a somewhat heated uh discussion in 701 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the in the scoring area, and uh, that's my David 702 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: lingmer story. I like it. That's a good one. UM. 703 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: A couple of names we this, This came up in 704 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: our in our thread, so I'll do this just some 705 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: mark coach doesn't yell at us the UM. The US 706 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: amateur amateur champ UM James Piatt, who has turned professional 707 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: and taken the live money, is playing here as a 708 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: US amateur, which is awkward scenario for the U s 709 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: J is probably the worst night where that he were 710 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: to win. UM. And then you have Stuart Haggisted, who 711 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: is you know, cocktail circuit legend. He was on the 712 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: board for a long time. And actually someone poses the 713 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: question who would the U SG rather have win the tournament? 714 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: I would say Haggisted, even though by his question, by 715 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: his lofty standards, you know, he only plays the nicest 716 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: courses and the most exclusive clothes, Like this is borderline 717 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: if he was even going to show up, because it's 718 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: probably not quite nice enough for him. But yes, but 719 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: percent of the of the I mean, the PGA tour 720 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: tweeted out today that he works the job full time. 721 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Socent of the world doesn't know that. Stewart just kind 722 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: of plays golf for a living, right, so in Stewart, 723 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Who's who's your opinion about the amateur? If the amateur 724 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: getting the getting to continue to play, even though, of course, 725 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: why don't you explain now, Augusta, that doesn't happen. I 726 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know about the other tournament, the Opens taken that 727 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: away as well. I have mixed feelings. I mean, you 728 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: you you want the US Amateur. It was a great 729 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: achievement to win it, as the reward is playing in 730 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: the US Open. Whether your life and your material needs 731 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: and your career demands that there's some change in your status, 732 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: you still won the US Amateur. I'm kind of okay 733 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: with it. It's just particularly awkward right now because he 734 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: took to live money and all that. But um, what 735 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: do you think about that, Jeff? Do you have any 736 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: feelings on whether he should be able to play now 737 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: that he's a pro but he's still the US Amateur 738 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: champ Oh, I think to your point, I think if 739 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: you win the US Amita, you've hurt your way into 740 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: the US Opening period. I don't, I think, um, I 741 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: think you go way back the traditions of the game. 742 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure a really important or they are important and 743 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: they're really interesting. But back when those sort of rules 744 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: came along, that sort of amateur professional divide was bigger. 745 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: There really was a difference between an amateur golfer and 746 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: a professional golfer. I mean, they had jobs, real jobs 747 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: where they actually went to them and had careers, and 748 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: they turned up and they played the summer amunate tournaments 749 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: every year and then they went back to their jobs 750 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: like that was a difference. They're not like that anymore. 751 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: These kids a little professional. They're professional amateurs. It's an 752 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: asterisk next to their name only. I mean, if the 753 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: in tennis, if you qualify for the US Open, regardless 754 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: of your status, if you play the first round, you 755 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: get paid. You know, I'm not saying we should pay amates, 756 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: but I just think it's a different world now, and 757 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: I think these kids are professionals from when their kids 758 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: almost you know, they're playing a j g A with 759 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: gallery ropes and leaderboards like from when their little kids. 760 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: It's just it's a it's just a little asterisk next 761 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: to the name only. So um, I think the amateur 762 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: pro divide is narrower than it's ever been. So I 763 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: don't think something like turning pro should stop you playing 764 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: the US Open ever really, And uh, the live thing, 765 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: that's that that we don't have to dive into. That 766 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: that's up to the U s G. I they let 767 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: everybody in who was exempt, who's playing to live, So 768 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why you have to let you have 769 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: to if you let one any let all in, right, 770 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah I would. Yeah, I was just suggesting. It 771 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: just adds. It's one thing to turn pro and get money. 772 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: It's not the thing for, you know, to turn pro 773 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: and take the live money, which for some people brings baggage. 774 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, you gotta treat all all the 775 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: pros the same. Anyway, Jeff, we know you have a 776 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: hard stop here because you have to get the kids 777 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: to school. So um. One last thought, Michael, Well, just 778 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: along the lines of I had I posed this question 779 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: to Sandy Tatum years ago, and he said by he 780 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: expected that a transgender golfer would would qualify for the 781 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: for the U S Open. But along those same lines. 782 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: I can almost guess your answer jump, But how would 783 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: you feel about it has happened when women trying to 784 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: uh qualify for for u S opens through up and 785 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: qualifying And do you think do you think we're moving 786 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: closer to that day that will happen? You'll just see 787 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: a woman in the field of of a u S 788 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: open Um, like I hope that day would come. Um, 789 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: it's uh. I love what they did in Europe last week. Um. 790 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: I think it's cool when they've sort of had they've 791 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: had a couple of mixed tournaments down here. Um, I 792 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: think anybody open is open that just because um, you 793 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't be anyone should be at a play. It should 794 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: be the best golfer in America, you know, around the 795 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: same test. Absolutely, I don't. I think it's a big test. 796 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: I think it's going to take a sort of a 797 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: sort of a big strong Lexi Thompson, like someone who 798 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: can really hit the ball a long way and it's 799 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: like really amazingly strong because it's not really the length 800 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: I think you can get some there's some plenty of 801 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: the female golfers are hitting it far and probably these 802 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: dis but it's that power out of the raft I 803 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: think would be difficult. Um, but yeah, have at it. 804 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't say why not, just how there's a fifty 805 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: seven year old qualifier that you know, it's there's no 806 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: that's what makes it the US Open. It's just the 807 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: most democratic tournament there is, along with with the Open Championship. 808 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: And um, I think that would I think that'd be amazing. 809 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: And a lot of these thirty six so qualifiers like 810 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: a century and old oaks, I think, Ryan, we're you 811 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: talking about that the other day to yard or shorter courses. 812 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, there's a lot of women who can 813 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: get get around that and you know one thirty six 814 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: for a day now, they might come here and shoot 815 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: one fifty six, but they could play their win a 816 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of guys when you shoote. So no shame absolutely, Um. Alright, 817 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: anything you want to say before we go, run, No, 818 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: it's good. Another good podcast. All right, Well thanks for 819 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: being here. So before we go, we're gonna thank our 820 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: our sponsors, the door Mey Workshop, who make all kinds 821 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: of beautiful leather goods. You can see that. You can 822 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: see them at fire Pick collected dot com. And it's 823 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 1: very much a throwback vibe like you could imagine Francis 824 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: we met having a dormy workshop head cover. Was that? 825 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Was that too much? I take it too far and 826 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: have been a special note to Jeff's kids waiting patiently 827 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: to be taking wherever they're going to next. I know 828 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: they didn't barge in, they didn't demand you know you, 829 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: you make them toasts like that's a plus to Ogilvie children. 830 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know about you guys, but I don't 831 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: think anyone's kids baked to go to school. That's right, Like, dad, 832 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: make this the longest podcast of your life. We're fine 833 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: with that. So all right, Well, this has been another 834 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: fire drill from the country club and from Melbourne, Australia. 835 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: We'll be doing this again throughout the week. So thanks 836 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: to everyone for tuning in and um, Michael Ryan saln 837 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: Nic we're out of here. That's a wrap. Thank you. 838 00:39:53,640 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: Put another log on the fire nobody he ears get 839 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: the time. M