WEBVTT - Ep67 - Tye Sheridan / "Ready Player One"

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<v Speaker 1>M you're listening to playback a Variety I Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Variety Awards editor Chris Tapley. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to Ty Sheridan, the twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 1>star of Steven Spielberg's Ready Player One, which opens tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen tie in films like Terrence Malix, The Tree

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<v Speaker 1>of Life and Jeff Nichols Mud. He also stars this

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<v Speaker 1>year in X Men Dark Phoenix, reprising the role of

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<v Speaker 1>Cyclops that comes out later in the fall. So sit tight,

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<v Speaker 1>this is playback. Yeah, okay, can I move? This? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that all right? Yeah? You're fine right now? Yeah? Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were just in Europe? Yeah, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>in London. How's that? We It was good, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was super cold when we got in it was snowing. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I haven't seen snow. I finally did for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in a long time when I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Sundance this year. Oh yeah, how was that? I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen no one forever. Other than that. You see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of movies, So I saw a lot. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>went for the second half with everything had cleared out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the people had cleared out. How what's

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<v Speaker 1>he done? I guess he'll done. So we just were

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<v Speaker 1>a rerecording. We are recording, and I want to just cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i've ever done a podcast. Oh sweet episode,

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<v Speaker 1>premiere episode. Yeah, sorry, I'm a little under the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry from not my feeling best. Been one of

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<v Speaker 1>those years everybody's got every other week. And how many

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts are you doing per week? Okay, so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one a week? Actually your coach? I love that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's called the Mountain? Yes, if you talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit at the end, what did you say, Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jeff, it's just kind of yeah, it was great,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a young actor or we did that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing pretty much. It sounds like a wicked movie though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's yeah, it's it's crazy. Um, it's I'm yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited about it. So Rick Alverson, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're familiar with his work. He did interrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're sitting here today with Ty Sheridan, the star of

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<v Speaker 1>Ready Player one. No worries, I was. I was not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're familiar with Rick Alverson, Um

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<v Speaker 1>the filmmaker. He did a movie we did a movie

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<v Speaker 1>together actually called Entertainment. He saw that with Greig Turkington,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim heideckers in it. But his movies are crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of fun working with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we made a movie together with Jeff Goldblum and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was in November and December, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>hoot for sure. Jeff's fun. Man, that's a whole energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes you like a half hour to shake it

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<v Speaker 1>after you've hung out for a little bit. No, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's a lot of fun. I love that guy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, the movie that you're kind of promoting

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<v Speaker 1>right now is already Player one Steven Spielberg. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>as big as it gets massive. It's not quite summer,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's essentially a summer blockbuster. Uh. What I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you, you you know, you live in Austin, you're

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<v Speaker 1>from Texas. What was it like to premiere this movie

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<v Speaker 1>at south By Southwest? And yeah, I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>the It was the coolest actually because we have been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for like a year or maybe even over

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<v Speaker 1>a year, we have been talking about having the movie

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<v Speaker 1>that's south By Southwest because it's really a perfect kind

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<v Speaker 1>of place for it. Because you know, it's film meets um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, interactive in tech and um, this movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>takes place in two thousand forty five and in the

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<v Speaker 1>future where people spend most of their lives in a

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world called the Oasis. So, uh, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>made sense for the movie to be there. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a lot of it was just

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not we could convince Stephen and whether

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers could convince him to to actually play the

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<v Speaker 1>movie there. But because he'd never I don't think he'd

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<v Speaker 1>ever done that. He's definitely never had a movie at

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<v Speaker 1>south By Southwest. And uh, so I had all my

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<v Speaker 1>family because I lived there. I had all my family

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<v Speaker 1>come down. They're all up in East Texas, so they

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<v Speaker 1>came down. I had my parents, my grandparents, my little sister,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin's best friends, like everyone. So it was so special.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a crazy weekend. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little overwhelmed, um, because you know, when you have that

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<v Speaker 1>much family and no one, you know, you gotta like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like hurting a bunch of sheep or something like. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was good. You know, I got really excited

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<v Speaker 1>as we were backstage about to show the movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they were all out there about to see

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<v Speaker 1>a film, Steven Spielberg, movie that I've worked on. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a pretty pretty cool feeling. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there, but I certainly saw in the reports

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like he was very touched. Did he seemed

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<v Speaker 1>very nervous backstage, you know, right before he was about

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<v Speaker 1>to unleash this movie. I think so, I mean he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think so, because he had made

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<v Speaker 1>his decision and he knew what he was getting himself into. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>He's very rational in that sense, so he, uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>did get I mean, everybody got a little flustered because

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<v Speaker 1>at the most climactic part of the movie and then

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<v Speaker 1>in the third act, um the sound went out. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had they had installed they had installed a

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<v Speaker 1>new Adulby sound system so that we could play the

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<v Speaker 1>movie at the Paramount Theater that night. Um, so when

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<v Speaker 1>the sound went out, it was you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my my heart kind of stopped. And I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>around the executive producer, Christafarian, the producer Donald's line, We're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting like right next to me. We're all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at each other. And and then they started. So

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<v Speaker 1>they played the movie again and at the same moment

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<v Speaker 1>the sound went out again. Um. And then they did

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<v Speaker 1>it again the same thing. Sound went out and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Oh my gosh, so this is not this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this is terrible. Um. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>third time they tried it, it worked. The third time

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<v Speaker 1>was a charm and then the crowd just it was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because the crowd just went nuts. Yeah, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the It almost like helped build up the that

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<v Speaker 1>moment in the third act where um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say what happens, but on the totally yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard they were kind of supplying their own soundtrack even

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it was silent up on the screen. Uh. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always curious with Mr Spielberg because we all know him obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>his spectacle is considerable in the canon of film and

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<v Speaker 1>and his place in that spectrum. I'm always curious to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to actors who've worked with him, how he works

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<v Speaker 1>with actors, because I think it's, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an underappreciated element of his repertoire. Frankly, yeah, I mean sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people, you know, we look

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<v Speaker 1>at Steven Spielberg films and we think like adventure and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know he's made a lot of history

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<v Speaker 1>rcle dramas, uh lately like Lincoln and The post or Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But we look at his movies and we think like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, big and scope, big and scale, like really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>family kind of oriented films sometimes. Um, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, sometimes we don't isolate or single out

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<v Speaker 1>the performances. But you know, there's that they make those

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<v Speaker 1>type of movies though. That's I mean, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the glue that kind of you know, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>such a great, such a great camaraderie amongst like young

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<v Speaker 1>characters in his movies, like whether it's Et or even

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<v Speaker 1>films that he was you know, he produced, like the Goonies. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of that stems from him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having being a child on set, Like he's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a big kid and he's like the biggest film

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<v Speaker 1>nerd I know, and he just gets so enthusiastic and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's nervous every day before he goes to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that you you know, is you share

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Um. You know, obviously working on a Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Spielory movie, there's you know, some you you you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to let the man down. So I think that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's he's incredibly engaging and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>i've ever we shot in this movie in motion capture, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was you know, he's literally right. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a scene with Olivia Cook. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>right in between the two of us and talking to

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<v Speaker 1>us through the scene. He was there with us, almost

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<v Speaker 1>like he was performing as well. But um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's you know, that does as as an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think psychologically it gives you that extra you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is to keep to push the performance even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to the next step and elevate it even more.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, so I think he's really great with actors.

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<v Speaker 1>He's incredibly patient. You never feel like, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>might give you two or three takes to to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of settle into the scene before he starts giving you

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<v Speaker 1>big notes. Um. And that was something that I really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really admired his his his supportiveness and

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<v Speaker 1>like he makes you believe and understand and field confident

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<v Speaker 1>in playing your roles because he's you know, he will

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<v Speaker 1>say to you, you know, I chose you because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the one person that is supposed to play this role

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so knowing that and even like him vocalizing that,

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<v Speaker 1>UM was super comforting and honestly, like I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best, I think, the best learning experience

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever had. I mean, I've learned more on this

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<v Speaker 1>movie than I have on any other film in the

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<v Speaker 1>past that I've worked out for sure. How long was

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<v Speaker 1>the shoot? Shot? For? Four months? How long that was?

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<v Speaker 1>That was some performance captured? Yeah, so, I mean of

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<v Speaker 1>our production schedule was motion capture, I believe. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>shot over the course of the first eight weeks that

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<v Speaker 1>was all motion captured. What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've never done it before, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was a great crash course, you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned so much and to be at the cutting

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<v Speaker 1>it because Ready Player one was really pushing the envelope

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, what we were doing on on set,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we were doing things that hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>done when you know, to to to date. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, we had you know, I LM and Digital Domain,

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<v Speaker 1>who are the visual effects companies who kind of brought

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<v Speaker 1>this this world together and created this world, spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time in pre production building these environments, these

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<v Speaker 1>three dimensional environments, so that when we were on the set,

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<v Speaker 1>we could see although we were in a motion capture volume,

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<v Speaker 1>we could see ourselves driving our avatars and walking around

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<v Speaker 1>in those environments. And we can even take it. We

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<v Speaker 1>could even take a step further and put on a

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<v Speaker 1>a VR headset that was tethered. Um, it was spatially tracking,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could walk around the environment to have a

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<v Speaker 1>three dimensional perspective on the environment. So it really helps you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really helps you understand because just a blank root,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just and there's no and it's you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a white carpet and scaffolding with a bunch of lights

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<v Speaker 1>and infrared sensors and and you're wearing like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thick onesie with these tracking markers all over you and

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<v Speaker 1>and at helmet with four facial capture cameras um and

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<v Speaker 1>polka dots all over your face. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy, kind of a crazy thing, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel completely stripped down and there's there's nothing except

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<v Speaker 1>for you and the other performers around you. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>and for that aspect, I mean I loved it because

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<v Speaker 1>it allowed me to revert back to that place where

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eight years old, you know, pretending with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and recreat and creating a scene in a

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<v Speaker 1>magical place. It was literally felt like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all a lot of it was left up to your imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you could jump into the r world and

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<v Speaker 1>taking the environment. But then when you when it came

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<v Speaker 1>time to perform, obviously you had to take it off.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, um, that was a great tool to help

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<v Speaker 1>us kind of get into it. Um, and then everything

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<v Speaker 1>else was just you know, you're purely collaborating with your

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<v Speaker 1>cast and the rest of the crew and you the

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<v Speaker 1>visual effects supervisors and Stephen and um, so everybody's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and visions. It all kind of comes together to

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<v Speaker 1>create one and um, you know it was this this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is The visual effects are like just incredibly stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. You were talking, uh, you were talking earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just about just the world split Spielberg has

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<v Speaker 1>given us, obviously, and that he's the biggest kind of

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<v Speaker 1>movie dork movie nerd you've seen. Uh, do you share

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<v Speaker 1>that quality? I mean, did you grow up? I Mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of silly question, probably, but you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>on these movies, right, Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>told him the first time I met him, because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if he was gonna cast me in his

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<v Speaker 1>movie or I said, Um, Mr Spielberg, I just want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thank you for all the films that you made,

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<v Speaker 1>because without et that, you know, that movie played a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times, hundreds of times during my childhood. With out

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<v Speaker 1>that movie, you know, or any of your movies, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I would be a different kid in some way, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a different storyteller at least. And and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really i'd like to to think that I took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the opportunity case. You know, like there were

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<v Speaker 1>times where we would just sit around and he would

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<v Speaker 1>do this you know, dolly shot and catch up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would ask him why we were doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>why this camera moving this? And then he would get

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<v Speaker 1>so enthusiastic about and you know, talking about filmmaking and

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<v Speaker 1>what and you know, on this great shot and in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, and he could just reference films. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, encyclopedia on that stuff. So um, but all

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<v Speaker 1>like that, do you have like a deep historical context

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<v Speaker 1>for I know, I wouldn't say so not near. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not nearly as good as that guy. Um. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I like movies and sometimes like I know, weird facts

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<v Speaker 1>about obscure movies. But I would say there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that I worked with in I mean much

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<v Speaker 1>more um like as far as just like an archival

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of movies in their head. I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not that impressive. It's always interesting just to

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<v Speaker 1>see how people respond. I mean there's famous, famous actors

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<v Speaker 1>that literally just have no desire to learn a ton

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, film history or anything that like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and obviously there's plenty who just are immersed in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just always interesting to find out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. Yeah, And I think for me I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was always really like interested in the technical

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of filmmaking because that helps me do my job

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<v Speaker 1>better in front of the camera, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I understand the you know, the frame,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand how I fit into that frame, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you know how how close I can we're close

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<v Speaker 1>focuses and how close I can come to the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>like all that all that stuff really um helps me

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<v Speaker 1>do my job better. So I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those questions are you know, one because I aspired

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<v Speaker 1>to and all aspects of filmmaking and and behind and

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the camera, but also because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it does help me do my job better. It's great

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to give the cameraman something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the gold. Speaking of him, I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 1>guy give the photographer so much in a photo session,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, giving him all these looks and all

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<v Speaker 1>these like he's basically singing and humming. He gets everybody

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<v Speaker 1>so much, very generous. Uh. You probably have been asked

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<v Speaker 1>this a bunch on this particular tour. But where you

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<v Speaker 1>much of a gamer growing up? Are you a gamer? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>On the gamer? I mean not I wouldn't say like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an avid gamer, but I mean I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>playing some games we were, but it was typically I

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<v Speaker 1>mean gaming for me was something that was social and

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<v Speaker 1>something I wanted to do with my friends. And even now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I think there's only handful of games

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<v Speaker 1>that I really play, the only games I actually played

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<v Speaker 1>by myself or like VR games. You know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can do multiplayer and VR and the same as

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<v Speaker 1>you do like online with people when you're playing PS

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<v Speaker 1>four or whatever. But um, yeah, so for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I like to get with my friends and black FIFA,

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<v Speaker 1>but first person shooters and stuff like that. Like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>even like our our our movie is largely a reference

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<v Speaker 1>and pays on Launch two. You know, games from the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties and where the Atari um even arcade games. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, the the eighties arcade games

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<v Speaker 1>I was familiar with on I'd never actually played in

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<v Speaker 1>Atari when it came time to shoot this movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a there's a scene in the movie which

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<v Speaker 1>is a really prominent scene actually, where my character plays

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<v Speaker 1>an Atar game. Uh. And so I mean I've done

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<v Speaker 1>I've done like as much research as I possibly could

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<v Speaker 1>without actually getting to play the game. I've seen videos

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<v Speaker 1>of people playing it. I read up about the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when when we you know, I was nervous

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<v Speaker 1>when when it came time to shoot the scene because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to look out of place playoff game. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to pull Stephen over to the side

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, Stephen, I don't know, can you

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<v Speaker 1>teach me how to hold the Atari control? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I'm doing it correctly. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got Atari lessons from Steven Spielberg and Zach pent Our screenwriter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's awesome, Yeah, pretty awesome. That's something you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Yeah, I guess you were you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that's before your time. I mean you were

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<v Speaker 1>born when the Nintendo sixty before was coming out. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which just makes me feel we've played. We played Nintendo

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four a lot in my cousin's house. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I was over at their house, like you know, every day,

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<v Speaker 1>here my child and there they're you know, my cousin Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>My cousins, Austin and Allison had an older brother, Christopher,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a Nintendo sixty four, and he would just

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<v Speaker 1>set us up and you know, we blow in the

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<v Speaker 1>cartridges and camm in and rock on the Nintendo sixty four,

0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>all those antiquated techniques. Um. I met your parents I

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<v Speaker 1>think at Sundance from when you were there with Mud

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<v Speaker 1>and the dinner at some upstairs at some restaurant, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember sitting I guess I was sitting there with

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<v Speaker 1>your dad or something. But very cool family. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious what they think of your career. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of well I mean, they're obviously proud and supportive,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've always been even when you know, after I

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<v Speaker 1>did my first movie, which I kind of just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>fell into. I never really had thought about acting or

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<v Speaker 1>or working in movies when I was eleven, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eleven years old, which is when I

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<v Speaker 1>got cast in that movie. But you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>something that intrigued me and it was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to kind of see through. So there were three

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<v Speaker 1>years where my mom would help me send in audition

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<v Speaker 1>tapes on and she would take me over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and I would never get anything. And they just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're so supportive for three years when I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't when I couldn't get it, when I wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 1>any callbacks, and I know I was young, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were you know, if I if I told

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<v Speaker 1>my parents that there was something I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>they would go to the end of the earth to

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<v Speaker 1>help me achieve that. And uh So without that love

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<v Speaker 1>and support from them, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be here obviously. I mean, they're they're like my rock,

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<v Speaker 1>my everything, and uh yeah, and they're now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's nice to be able to have them come

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<v Speaker 1>down to things like south By Southwest and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Ready Player one that was really cool

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<v Speaker 1>for them. Um, just to trip up the interstate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely, but it's now it's now become like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a hard time explaining to them

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing or what you know, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time keeping up and you know, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's good when something comes out and they can

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<v Speaker 1>see it and they can do something tangible they can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sink the teeth into. But incredibly supportive. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad says, you know, that's great that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing what you're doing, and I'm so happy that

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know you're doing you're being successful at it,

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and um, but you know, beyond that, I just care

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<v Speaker 1>that you're being a good person and you're treating people

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<v Speaker 1>the way you want to be treated. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what success is to me, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>makes me happy. And so as long as you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a good human and you've got a good heart and

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<v Speaker 1>you never lose that about you, then I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're always going to be successful. So my parents thought.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, especially in this this industry, can be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy and you can get uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people can get jaded, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that why you're staying in Texas? Um? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I think I just have a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting relationship with l A. And it's not Oh, please

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<v Speaker 1>expand that I thought, because I probably feel the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious. Yeah. I mean I would say I

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<v Speaker 1>respect the city much more than uh, I love it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>because I could say I have a love hate relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't hate the city. You know, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough stay. Yeah. I think it's can be

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<v Speaker 1>very lonely at times. You know, you don't have people

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<v Speaker 1>drive around in their cars. They sit on the freeway

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're in this You're in your tiny little bubble

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<v Speaker 1>in your own world, and you know, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>walk anywhere you don't, you know. And also like people here,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people moved to l A

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<v Speaker 1>to to secure in or to achieve a goal that

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<v Speaker 1>they set out and that you know, that's understandable. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people get sucked into a lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>that can be sometimes very vain and um. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the things that you know that don't truly matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and and they forget why they even came here in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. I just think so for me, there

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was always that danger in this city, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you understand it, as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge it, you can't really, I mean you can, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have it. It's it's gonna be it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>harder to let it affect you, for sure. It's an

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>acquired taste. Thirteen years and took me a really long

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>time before I really loved it. And I love it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it comes eventually, I think anything and and

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean I spend I spend so much time here.

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm here like every every other week because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a I have a tech startup and we're based here

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. So I'm you know, whether I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>here doing press for a movie for Ready Player one

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.679
<v Speaker 1>or you know, you know, I have I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be here for other meetings. Talking about that startup. What

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<v Speaker 1>is that? It's it's well, I mean, I can't tell

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you too much because under reps. It's yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, we're you know, it's something we've been

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<v Speaker 1>working actually even before we started making Ready Player one,

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<v Speaker 1>or I even found out that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing the film. It was, um, you know, I

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was working on with on this company with my best friend.

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>We we co founded the company together. And uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called ether A E T H E R ether Um

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's you know, it's geared towards interactive TV

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>UM in immersive media. Um. So, I mean that's pretty

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>much all I can say because we have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting ready to make some announcements soon that we're

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 1>really excited about, but we can't. You know, deals are

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>still being fine. That's awesome, but hopefully I'll have more

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to share with you soon. Good luck with it. I

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>want to jump ahead to x Men briefly. You've got

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>x Men Dark Phoenix coming up this year. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you if you were a big gamer. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you a big comic book fan growing up as well?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I was not. Actually, I mean I liked,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked, I think comic book movies. I was obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with Batman as a kid until I was about eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would run around the house and about Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>We constantly have that com Yeah, for sure, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of kids. I don't think it's that

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<v Speaker 1>weird to admit. It's popular, for sure. Batman's popular guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I uh yeah. But but the the X Men franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>I think i'd only been I'd only actually started watching

0:23:56.119 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>X Men movies like like months before I even found

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<v Speaker 1>out that I was going to be auditioning for one.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, and you know I was. I became a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of the franchise and went and watched all

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the films, and I think that you know, that franchise

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<v Speaker 1>of any you know, out of all the marvel in

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>DC kind of comic book superhero movies, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the one that has the most complex

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<v Speaker 1>characters and and it's has the most humanity for me,

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, and there's still a lot of action and

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it's exciting, and they're you know, entertaining movies. But um,

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, that's why I was so excited

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to become part of the franchise. And uh, this the

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<v Speaker 1>new one coming out, Dark Phoenix, I'm really really excited

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>about because it's it's it is really gravitating towards you

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>know that aspect of of the of these films, you

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>know that that element that is really grounded and uh

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and it is really human in this film, I think

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>is more human than we've seen of any of the

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>X Men movies, so are so I'm excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and it's uh yeah. Simon Kimberg kind of handled

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<v Speaker 1>the transition and directing absolutely. I mean, this is his,

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>this is his baby for so long. Yeah. Absolutely, And

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>this is excuse me, his it's his directorial debut and

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's like a two and a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar movie. Yeah, it's kind of crazy, but he you know,

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>he you know, and I asked him about it. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel pressured by that? And he said no,

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>because like what other what other first time filmmakers have

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a two and a million dollar budgets to work with?

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean I should, I should feel confident, if anything,

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>because it's you know, it's more support and there's more

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can I can get more with that

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and um and he's he's he's a great storyteller and

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he's got great story and history instincts. I mean, so

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it was really great to work with with him, um

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>on this film because he's he's interested in all the

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>things that I think I'm interested it in. And and

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes these movies tend to leave behind, like

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they tend to just kind of glide

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>over those problems are not really let you know, those

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>elements breathe. And I think this is something he really

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to explore in this film. So I think, you know,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it can, it might. I'm really excited to see what

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it'll do to an audience. And you got just a

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>chaste in again the Tree of Life co star. I

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>had just gone the show before. She's the greatest person

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Yeah, she's a sweetheart. Speaking of Tree

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of Life, I did want to go back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious what you retained from the experience of

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>working with someone like Terence Malock so early. And uh,

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, what is something you learned on that

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>production or from a guy like him that you've carried

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think he's really good. I mean, it's

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hard to say because it was my that was my

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>first experience ever were on a film set. This is

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he wanted, I'm sure. I mean that's what

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like, what he looking for. Um, And so

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>for us. I mean it was it was it was

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a normality. You know. It was the fact that I

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>never saw a script and that I didn't know what

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we were going to be shooting until literally at the

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>moment we arrived on set was for me, I thought

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>that was normal when I was eleven years old working

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>on this movie. Um, but I think, you know, he's he's,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>he's I think there's from I guess what I retained

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>from that experience is two you know. Always, I mean,

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it's good to rehearse, and I think it's good to

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>think things through. But I mean when you overwork something

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and you get stuck doing one thing, and it's you know,

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>when you dig yourself so deep and invest yourself in

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>in one you know, I guess one style, it's it's

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to dig yourself out, and it's hard to go

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>different directions. And so I think what being working on

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>his movies, Um, you know that he allows you as

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>an actor, I think, to do so much and go

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>us many places and and uh and he's you know,

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're you're on set and you're shooting it a

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>scene where you know it's a it's a a dinner scene,

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he sees birds out

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the window and then he just wants to shoot that,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and which is cool. So he just you know, you know,

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he kind of I think he's really fascinated by capturing

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>moments that are you know, hard, extremely hard to capture,

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a moment in the Tree of life or

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a butterfly lands on Jessica Chastain's hand. And I remember

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>when that, even when I was eleven years old, watching

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that happen in front of me, that was so magical,

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's just there there are things like

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that that only happened in his movies. Um that I

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, not a lot of other directors

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>can can you know, bottle up? And then what kind

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of movies do you want to make going forward? I mean,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, you know, this was obviously a burning desire

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>for you when you were a kid. Your parents were

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>helping you send out tapes and everything is something you

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to do. Why do you want to do

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it so badly? And what kind of movies do you

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>want to make out? I mean, I think I want to,

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to continue to tell stories that

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that move me and will move other people like me.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And um that also relates you know, extremely important messages.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's something that you know, I'm becoming

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>more and more interested in and fascinated byas how how

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>stories cannot only entertain you, but but also you know,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>teach you something. And my favorite movies or something, you know,

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>our movies that that taught me something. And so I

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>think those are the type of films that I want

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to continue to make. And also films that you know,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>challenge me personally and uh speak to me, um in

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a sense of you know, at a certain place in time,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's something that I'm going going through

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>with my family or and my with my friendships or whatever. Like,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I always try to find things that that you know

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>that are timely and they connect with me, honest, you know,

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>in that moment um, And I think it's I think

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really important because I think you know, that's sometimes

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>when it's when you you're able to do your best work,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>is when it's closest to you or sometimes like maybe

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's something you don't understand, and through working on a

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 1>film and telling a story you know similar to what

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going through in life, may help you better understand

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself translate that the Ready player one, what what was

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it about this movie? Had to say that that I

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>really spoke to you. Sure. So I'm kind of on

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the fence about social media, and I'm kind of on

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the fence about a you know, all these digital platforms

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that we have and how accessible they are, but and

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>also how how much time people are investing themselves into

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>um these platforms. And so I actually, up until about

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a year ago, I was and this is very ignorant, um,

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>but I had I had a flip phone until about

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a year ago, and then I switched to an iPhone

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>because I realized, like, you know, I think, I've I'm

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>contradicted because I see, you know, people are constantly connected

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to a screen and there they forget to look up

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and engage with people all around them, and there's like,

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so much you can see and there's

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>so much you can learn just by looking up and um.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So that was a frustration of mine, and so that's

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>why I wanted to go against the grain, I think.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But then I realized, like, it's beautiful that we all

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>have that tool, which is we have a computer in

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>our pockets and at any moment in time, I can

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>google something and learn something that I didn't know, and

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's at my fingertips. And so in Ready Player one,

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, our movie is set in two thousand forty

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>five where people spend most of their lives in a

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>virtual world called the Oasis, and uh, it's a social world.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, you can play games there, people even

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>work inside of the Oasis. It's a it's a it's

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a you know, it's it's a photo real, uh fantastical

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>replica of kind of a real world reality. And you know,

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that stands as a large metaphor to social

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>media's on these digital platforms that we have and how

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we balance them, you know, with our real lives. And

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that's something that that is like the greater that's like

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the greatest theme in in Ready Player one is embracing

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>reality and embracing and accepting yourself or who you are.

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I have a I have a seventeen year old

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>little sister, and you know, some very sensitive to to

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff, because you know, she has Instagram

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and all the social media platforms, and you know, I

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>can see sometimes like maybe in a positive way, maybe

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in a negative way, she's affected by what people say

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on those platforms, and she you know, we're all seeing

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>images of people, but they're only the images that they're

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>choosing to show you, and that's the profile that they're curating,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we have a hard time understanding that. So

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>when you see whether celebrities they're posting, you know, glamorous pictures,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>if they're their travel or what they're doing, or the

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>hotel that they're staying in. You know, sometimes it's it's,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's impossible not to compare yourself to to them, um,

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>because you're seeing it and then you know you're just

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's sometimes it's the psychology and the psychology of

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like it can be it can be depressing, and

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it can make you think like, oh, you know, I'm

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>so far from that, I'll never achieve anything in my

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>life or whatever. Like you know, it's that's that's not

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>true because um, you know these I just I think

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that those are the images they're they're choosing to shoot you, right,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know they're not showing you like all the

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>bad days that they're having. Um of course, like nobody

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to show you that. So there's there's a layer

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>there that doesn't allow for that transparency, and I think

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that it can be dangerous, it can be extremely helpful.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually a big you know, I'm a big believer

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>in a digitally connected world, and I think the Internet

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and social media is such a new thing, and social

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>media has become a new form of entertainment, whether or

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>not you want to knowledge or accept it, um it

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>has and people actually spend hours a day strong through

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>their Instagram. So you know, it's just I think it's

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>about a lot of it is. You know, we're in

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a place now where we're just there's no rules and

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>no rules set in place, and we're just trying to

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to go about it and how to

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>incorporate it as as as a as a positive tool

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>and and get rid of all the negative effects. Yeah.

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Well we're talking today on a day when Facebook's being

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>investigated by the government, so you know, yeah, there's there's

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>even darker elements to it. Also, good thing to keep

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>your eye on movies called Ready Player one. It opens

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>March twenty nine, and we've talked about X Men Dark

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix that's in November, So check out both of these movies.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>THI shared and thanks for coming on the show. You

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>appreciate so much