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Speaker 1: Brooking jewels second day. Business conventions are good for three reasons. One,

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Speaker 1: you get to learn new techniques about whatever industry that

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Speaker 1: of the sex, and then number three the sex are

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Speaker 1: the three reasons that business conventions are really really good.

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Speaker 1: Meaningtime you meet somebody at a convention, you just assume

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Speaker 1: business conventions. It's like you're in town for one night,

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Speaker 1: go and you learn whatever it is that you have

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Speaker 1: to learn for the day. Then you got drinking at

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Speaker 1: night and usually probably hook up with somebody. And that's

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Speaker 1: where James, who's on the phone today, he met the

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Speaker 1: girl that he wants to call at a business convention.

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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that they slept together, did you, James?

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Speaker 1: We did not? What are you doing? Man? Come on,

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Speaker 1: it's a convention girl. They're so easy, I guess. I

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Speaker 1: it is? You know what? I haven't been to a

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Speaker 1: a marketing company for like a couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: it was terrible. But that's what I remember always thinking

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Speaker 1: every time I had to go to convention, was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get lucky. Did you ever myself? That's just

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Speaker 1: so there's no fact at all to what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Our business convention is like what I think they are.

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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, it's a lot of people. We're trapped

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Speaker 1: guess things could happen. It happened for me this time.

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Speaker 1: But you know, why don't you tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the girl that you want to call today? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: her name is Kia. We met at a convention. Really

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Speaker 1: come in at interesting you met at a convention convention? Shock? Right?

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Speaker 1: I come in from town every couple of weeks. That's

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Speaker 1: where I met her and we just kind of hit

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Speaker 1: this is my first time seeing her. Was that this

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Speaker 1: the convention? Well, we like hung out and then I said,

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Speaker 1: to grab dinner tonight, And she said, yeah, was it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, was it clear that it was a date?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like if you're hanging out all day

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Speaker 1: Have you never been in business before ever? Apparently not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you knew that this was more than a

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Speaker 1: I actually knew that already because I read your email

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Speaker 1: How did you approach that with her? Though? What'd you say.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just like, how about you know,

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Speaker 1: hang on looking jubil in the morning, we've got James

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Speaker 1: He thinks he screwed up their first date because during

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happened, all right. You know the tough

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Speaker 1: you think you have some of that, James. Well, I

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Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Okay. Hello? Oh can I

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Speaker 1: speak to Kara? Please speaking? Hi Kara. This is Jewel

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Speaker 1: from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. How are you?

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Speaker 1: This is who? Jebil from Brooke and Jewil in the Morning. Jebil,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know who this is. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: calling from Brooke and Jewel in the Morning. It's a

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Speaker 1: Someone wants me on the phone? Yes, sort of. We

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Speaker 1: do a segment on our show called the Second Date Update.

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Speaker 1: It's basically, if you go out on a date with

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Speaker 1: ask if they did something wrong? Who would do that?

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Speaker 1: His name is James and you recently met him at

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Speaker 1: until the very end. But no, are you talking about

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Speaker 1: so did he tell you towards the end of dinner?

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Speaker 1: That is seriously what he propositioned you. He was already

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Speaker 1: because seriously, I've known him over a dinner for maybe

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Speaker 1: I was joking about that earlier. We were talking about it,

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of horny businessmen out there. Is this

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Speaker 1: the first time something like this has happened to you? Actually,

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Speaker 1: it is, because this is the first time I've ever

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Speaker 1: said yes to going to dinner with anyone. Yeah. Normally

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Speaker 1: I just go, I do my thing, I hang out

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Speaker 1: us that he tried to text you after your date.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he sure did. Oh did he not just

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Speaker 1: apologize in his text? No? No? No, Oh, I mean

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Speaker 1: he did. He's like, listen, I'm sorry if things got

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Speaker 1: out of hand. And I wrote him back, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: missing with this, and I'm like, he really said that

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Speaker 1: to you? He really? I still have the text message.

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Speaker 1: He left all of that out. It didn't. From his

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Speaker 1: side of the story, it sounds like he was very

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Speaker 1: sweet to you after, like I really apologize for asking

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Speaker 1: you go to back to my room. That was so

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Speaker 1: wrong of me. Wouldn't you love to just kind of

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Speaker 1: talk to him about it? Though, actually I really wouldn't

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Speaker 1: like to talk to him about it. I hope I

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Speaker 1: That's a shame because he's on the phone listening right now.

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Speaker 1: He wants to talk to you. What. Yeah, No, I

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Speaker 1: seriously am not over exaggerating. I have those text messages.

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Speaker 1: It's that you sent me and you're like a foul

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Speaker 1: craft pig, and I don't worry and hear it. Please,

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Speaker 1: you know, just just hang on one second, right, I

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Speaker 1: apologize for these text messages and you know like it

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Speaker 1: it isn't really me. But at the same time, we

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Speaker 1: were both drinking a lot. I don't remember sending you

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Speaker 1: that text lesson. I remember apologizing, but I don't remember

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Speaker 1: saying anything about my I thought it was just another

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Speaker 1: piece of proof I would have discussing, pig that you

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Speaker 1: women that I know that are going to the convention

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Speaker 1: much as even say hello to you. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: you were the one that went out with me. Didn't

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Speaker 1: you just say that you knew that these conventions were

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Speaker 1: all about, and yet you came out to dinner with me.

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Speaker 1: On me, why I went out to dare with you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go back to your hotel with you and

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Speaker 1: then suddenly become a fruit. There's a big difference. Well,

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Speaker 1: but here's the deal. You got me going you We

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Speaker 1: were there together, and then all of sudden you gonna

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Speaker 1: walk away. That sounds with a fruit to me. We

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Speaker 1: were drinking, you were flirting, you were trying to get

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Speaker 1: me going, and you got me going. James, Why do

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Speaker 1: you have to say it like that? Stop? It's true

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Speaker 1: you did it for me. Oh my god, Seriously, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sick of this side. He's a cake. If

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Speaker 1: you can't tell that all of your delusion, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody liked outs that. Everybody's on your side with

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Speaker 1: this one. Kia. Once I heard the phrase got me

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Speaker 1: going a few times in there, I'm on board. Hey Carrott, regardless,

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Speaker 1: would you like to go out with James again on

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Speaker 1: a second date. I'd love to pay for it. No, No,

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Speaker 1: what if we don't get him going? Is bad? I

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Speaker 1: would sooner so out with my dog. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever, you proved you learn how to throw your

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Speaker 1: signals out. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely fault. Don't get a

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Speaker 1: prostitute next time, honey. Well, you know there's not a

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Speaker 1: convention coming up. I'll see what I can do. Now.

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Speaker 1: You guys got me going with that whole process, dude.

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Speaker 1: And when you got me going, you got me going broken.

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Speaker 1: Jupil in the morning,