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Speaker 2: Problem solved bed on the Enzo pickoff. Hi's here White.

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Speaker 1: With the interception, the latest news and notes from the

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Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 2: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've done a security suite right here off

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Speaker 2: Office Audio. Danny rest assured you're not going to be

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Speaker 2: blindsided and or bum rushed by any sort of mascot

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Speaker 2: during this episode. Paul Calvc Darren urban I only saw

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Speaker 2: the clip briefly. Was there anything said? Was there any

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Speaker 4: Which time do you want to talk about their mascot

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Speaker 4: interrupted me on the field doing my job. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: it wasn't the first time.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So for those who have not seen it and

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Speaker 2: or totally understanding, I think I qualify now and that

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Speaker 2: I don't have a complete understanding what exactly Sure was

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Speaker 2: that exaggerating a little bit?

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Speaker 3: I did quote tweet it, so enough people in this

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Speaker 3: if you recall, we were talking about how best buds

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Speaker 3: Marv Harrison and Blue Whirl. Yeah, so obviously Danny was

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Speaker 3: trying to horn in on that relationship. Is that what

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Speaker 4: Know, Danny was trying to do her job. See as

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Speaker 4: funny as that is to the two of you, I

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Speaker 2: That is tough. See, people have no idea at home.

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Speaker 2: You got all this It's like an air traffic controller.

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Speaker 2: You have all this stuff going through your ear piece

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Speaker 2: and then a stinking mascot is over your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: All right, explaining was doing TV.

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Speaker 4: I sound like a boom or no offense, but like

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was funny. I the first time

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Speaker 4: in the fans, which poses a little difficulty of you

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Speaker 4: of everyone running and no one can be in front

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Speaker 2: To me, by the way, that's known as the Tony

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Speaker 2: He used to sit in the end zone next to

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Speaker 4: So because of that, somebody from our security team was

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Speaker 4: out of his nose. Is if I'm not There's literally

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Speaker 5: Did he touch you or did he just kind of no,

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Speaker 5: I did not know the depth of the vitriol. There's

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Speaker 4: To have fun on the sideline? If I'm walking or

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Speaker 3: We now know how Tommy Lass sorta felt that one time,

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Speaker 3: Darren san Diego Chicken, Darren.

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Speaker 2: We're old enough to remember Charles Barkley in his prime,

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Speaker 2: and what would he do at halftime?

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Speaker 2: He would pound the opposing mascot.

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Speaker 3: It was a bit.

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Speaker 2: It was hilarious, right, but was he working? It was

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Speaker 2: In this case, the beef is real.

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Speaker 3: You're more mad now than you were on the air plane.

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Speaker 3: When I first retweeted it.

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Speaker 2: To Caitlyn, get a picture because I want the still

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Speaker 2: shot of Danny Mean mugging Blue that because it's it's

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Speaker 4: I mean, I could go into depth on all the

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought I was getting this podcast off on

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Speaker 2: It got extremely real in a hurry. So I will

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Speaker 2: I like Darren earlier, so like if I tweet it,

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Speaker 2: like ordaining something going viral if Darren retweets it via

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Speaker 3: You know, Danny went to the state Fair. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: You want to come back, Darren, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: bit later. Okay, okay, all right, how about something a

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Speaker 2: little lighter in air out here? You know there was

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Speaker 3: Don't talk about the football game?

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Speaker 2: Then how about this? Okay, so yeah, before we get

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Speaker 2: to the game, because you're right, that is down the list.

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Speaker 2: In August, that is down the list. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. They did have a light andary segment.

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Speaker 2: It was the All Pound Puppy team. Name your team

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Speaker 2: this season that doesn't get enough love and that you

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Speaker 2: would like to adopt. You're All Pound Puppy team. Kyle

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Speaker 2: Brandt went with the Arizona Cardinals. The brand of football,

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Speaker 2: the physicality year ago, only four wins, but the wins

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Speaker 2: they had Dallas at Pittsburgh at Philly, quality wins, the

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Speaker 2: ability to compete, the upgrades, and the roster. So there

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Speaker 2: you go. The all that's a new one. It's still

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Speaker 2: this season apparently, because we do have another list. There's

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Speaker 2: a did you see this one? One potential first time

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Speaker 2: Pro bowler from each team? Courtesy of NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 3: They didn't say Andrew Gillikin, did they?

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Speaker 2: Darren won't let that go? So okay, so so so

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Speaker 2: Danny uh top of her hit list is blue. And

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Speaker 2: then for you, it's a we can just drop it.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna get caught and it's gonna get sent

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Speaker 4: to the Colts. So let's just carry on at this point.

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Speaker 2: So who do you think is the most like if

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Speaker 2: you had a power pole of potential first time Pro

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Speaker 2: bowlers in the Ears on a Cardinal's roster, where would

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Speaker 2: James Connor, can't be Kyler Murray because they've been there.

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Speaker 2: They've been there and done that. First timers. I'll go

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Speaker 2: Paris Johnson Junior.

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Speaker 3: Paris popped into my head.

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Speaker 4: Try McBride.

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride pops in my head.

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com named Trey McBride Trey mcplay.

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Speaker 3: Marvin popped into my.

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Speaker 2: Head, Marvin. Okay, yeah, I don't know so badly. I

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Speaker 2: want to say, Darius Robinson, you're white, pump your brakes.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, Yeah, I like that. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson has not been a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He's due. He's going to get it at some point.

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Speaker 3: So I really, I really want to go in tough time.

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Speaker 3: As long as Budodh is here. Darius's Robinson. I think

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Speaker 3: he can be good, but he would have to have

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Speaker 3: a spectacular season to beat out somebody on the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: And let's not forget Paul as Adrian Wilson once made

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Speaker 3: Bowl one year too late, and yeah, one year too

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Speaker 3: more year then you should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hang around and get that one extra Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl nod when you probably didn't earn it. So just

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Speaker 3: Why McBride makes a lot of sense because he you

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Speaker 3: if they only take three of them, like, who are

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Speaker 3: you leaving off?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're It's tough. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the ESPN Power Rankings came out, just

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Speaker 2: get this out of the way right before you know.

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Speaker 2: It's still August, so you're still getting this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Here we go these team power rankings Relank power rankings.

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Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals twenty ninth, the team's right ahead of them, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, the Giants, the Raiders, and Washington with the

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Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Those teams are ahead of them, ahead of.

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Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals. The only teams behind the Cardinals New England,

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Speaker 2: Denver in thirty second Carolina. Hard to argue with those

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Speaker 2: three beneath the Arizona Cardinals. But when you see Buffalo seventh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this qualifies as a hot take

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Speaker 2: or not. I think Buffalo most definitely falls out of

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Speaker 2: the top ten this year. And by the way, have

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Speaker 2: you seen us never too early to talk about Week one?

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Speaker 2: And we've been doing it ever since the schedule came out.

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Speaker 2: Did you see their injury situation right now? Not only

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Speaker 2: do the Bills lose Matt Mulano to the torn bise,

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Speaker 2: their Pro Bowl caliber inside linebacker, they are beyond banged

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Speaker 2: up at receiver. In this last week between practice and

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Speaker 2: the game, they lost Curtis Samuel mvs Marquez Valdez Scanling.

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Speaker 2: They had lost Chase Claypool the week before injury settlement.

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Speaker 2: He just was never healthy from the offseason, loss safety

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow Hamlin. Remember they already reve Anthony entire safety room

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Speaker 2: and the Bills, well, he's out. And it's uncertain whether

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Speaker 2: their backup quarterback Mitchell Trubisky got hurt in the game.

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Speaker 2: All because it's August and they don't have to give reports.

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Speaker 2: Their status is unknown going into Week one. But remember

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Speaker 2: Well, Buffalo, Now, I'll give you the La Rams, since

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Speaker 4: Wait are you saying Desmond Ridder would compete to be

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying these teams have a need for

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Speaker 3: So, but you're making the same argument that somebody on

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Speaker 4: I just don't know how many legitimate takers you would

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Speaker 3: The only, the only, the only way it works out

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Speaker 2: So how do you wait? Right now? Let's say go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know me been trying and failing to

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Speaker 2: something salacious, sensational when it comes to the QB two battle,

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Speaker 2: how do you weigh Danny, what you've seen from Clayton

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Speaker 4: The amount of games that Ritter has I don't think

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Speaker 4: getting the ball up fast enough, accuracy, those are still important.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have a great year in Atlanta. That's why

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Speaker 4: he's not there. So I don't know how fair it

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Speaker 4: at it more as what they're doing right now, and

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Speaker 4: moved the chains. Now that's not all on ridder of

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Speaker 3: I'll be curious to know what the decision is for

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Speaker 3: the joint practices meant what they meant. I don't think

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Speaker 3: came in, he was a second quarterback in he got

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Speaker 3: an interception. And that's tough. If these joint practices mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much. I would think that they

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Speaker 3: don't know what Gannon is going to say later this

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Speaker 3: But my guess is they have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 2: Clayton Tune after this latest game quote, I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm playing more on time, I'm playing quicker, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: through my reads, I'm seeing the defense and being decisive.

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Speaker 2: Would we all agree?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean he said the game before. You know, Look

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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing pre snap is matching up post snap,

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Speaker 2: the accuracy is there, the anticipation is there, receivers are

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Speaker 2: that was a risky throw to begin with. You it

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Speaker 2: would have to be like you know, Aaron Rodgers pinpoint

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Speaker 3: To be fair, the whole drill was set up. You

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Speaker 2: And then what Clayton do Tune do when he came

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Speaker 2: in for the next possession, He did exactly that. Now

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Speaker 2: they got down near the goal line and he easily

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Speaker 3: And what is fascinating to me when we talk about

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Speaker 2: You know, we are on the sideline and we threw

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Speaker 2: this out there. You know who design Ritter reminds us

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Speaker 2: of a lot in a Cardinal's uniform. Josh Dobbs, same

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Speaker 2: year two especially, I think that gives Clayton tun a

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Speaker 2: Cardinals keep three quarterbacks? I guess in Mantias sports senses

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Speaker 2: Maybe he does hang on to that guy and tries

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Speaker 2: to get something in return, maybe what you get, but

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Speaker 3: See that's That's that's where I get hung up. Is

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Speaker 3: get everybody you want, and I'm sure they're going to

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Speaker 3: I just don't see it, you know. And I definitely

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Speaker 2: Let's play roster roulette here we go. You know what

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Speaker 2: wheel here, roster roulette, and I'm gonna go around some

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Speaker 2: of the position groups, and you tell me how many

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Speaker 2: tight ends? How many tight ends make the final fifty three? Cuz?

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Speaker 4: Three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm I'm with Danny.

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Speaker 2: All right, because we respectulating earlier Blake Whiteheart, Travis Boclek

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I think three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we already talked about quarterback. I think we're all

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Speaker 3: To me? This is the hardest position, right because of

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Speaker 4: I think I think I'm gonna go out on a

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that with the idea that DJ Dallas

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Speaker 4: And I don't think they cut Michael Carter, who would

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Speaker 3: I I don't know, but I the more we go

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Speaker 2: For all those reasons, if you're only keeping three tight ends,

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Speaker 3: And again, the practice squad is a big deal. You

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Speaker 3: you know there's a good chance you can get him

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's take a quick right turn there. Pick

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Speaker 2: Do they make this team third round picks? But because

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Speaker 4: I don't think those are the two that would get cut.

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Speaker 4: I think someone like wide receiver Tajon Palmer to the

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Speaker 4: long term potential. I don't think either of them will

437
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Speaker 4: likely see the field unless maybe a few snaps. If anything.

438
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 4: Jones more so than Adams, would be likely to see

439
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: the field in the secondary, but they're not gonna want

440
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 4: to risk them getting picked up by another team. They

441
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Speaker 4: draft them the third round for reason, especially offensive linemen.

442
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Speaker 4: Typically it's not uncommon to need a year to put

443
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Speaker 4: on some weight.

444
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Speaker 2: True.

445
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: See, I'm completely the opposite where you got. Like, if

446
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: we're talking about those two guys, I think there's a

447
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: chance they find a way to keep them. But I

448
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: don't think Isaiah Adams is going anywhere. I'm not saying

449
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: he's read no, but I mean, like I don't. I

450
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: don't even think it's worth a discussion to talk about

451
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: hitting and getting cut. Like, I don't. There's no way

452
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Speaker 3: I could see Elijah Jones getting cut potentially depending on

453
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was a third round pick. I do

454
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Speaker 3: think they would like to have him around, maybe for

455
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Speaker 3: the future. But if Starling Thomas continues to play and

456
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Speaker 3: impress them, maybe that's the flip side. I don't know.

457
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Speaker 3: I you try and figure out. Usually there's one or

458
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: two guys that you really raise your eyebrow about. Who

459
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: gets cut? I mean, who is that? Who are those.

460
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: Guys coming back to running back? And Mario de Mercado?

461
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Speaker 2: Can you get them to the practice squad?

462
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they want to?

463
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Speaker 2: Okay, receiver first four set, we know that. Are they

464
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: absolutely arizone? Oh yeah, no doubt.

465
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Speaker 3: Okay.

466
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Speaker 2: In fact, I'd say, if you're looking for a little

467
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Speaker 2: fantasy football advice, well, sleeper there in the lake going

468
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Speaker 2: Elijah Higgins or Jay Jones. I'll just throw that out there.

469
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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a fantasy football sleeper on this

470
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Speaker 2: Cardinals team, I'll throw those two guys out there.

471
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Speaker 3: Have you played fantasy football, Paul in a while?

472
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Speaker 2: Because it was very successful?

473
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Speaker 3: Like those guys, when you say sleeper, what do we

474
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Speaker 3: talk about thirty catches this year? Like, I don't think

475
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Speaker 3: it's gonna help your fantasy team.

476
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Speaker 1: Now.

477
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Speaker 2: I can see Jay Jones though in the red zone.

478
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: I can see Zay Jones in the red zone. All

479
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: of a sudden he gets a sneaky six or seven touchdowns.

480
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Speaker 2: I can maybe see.

481
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: They've got Trey McBride and James Connor and Marvin Harrison,

482
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: and you're throwing seven touchdowns as a.

483
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: Jones, you know, just throwing it out there.

484
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: Don't hurt yourself.

485
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: So, okay, receivers, then all right, beyond the top four,

486
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: fill it in, fill in the blanks. Five and six.

487
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: Where are we.

488
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: Chris Moore, I don't think there's six.

489
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Speaker 4: I would stop it. Chris Moore. I think if you're

490
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: going to keep five running backs, you got to lose

491
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Speaker 4: that number somewhere.

492
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Speaker 2: So you are going to cut Xavier Weaver.

493
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Speaker 4: Practice squad, practice squad, undrafted rookie.

494
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Speaker 2: I just had a thirty seven yard kickoff return. He's

495
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Speaker 2: had a number of catches in the preseason that are

496
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Speaker 2: on film. Okay, all right, he's still an undrafted guy.

497
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Speaker 2: I get it.

498
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Speaker 3: So you're keeping Xavier Weaver as the fifth.

499
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Speaker 2: And for an undrafted guy, he does get two fifty

500
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Speaker 2: plus guaranteed if the reports are accurate on what he's signed.

501
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Speaker 3: I'm not I don't think the money has anything to

502
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Speaker 3: do with it. But you're keeping Xavier Waver Weaver as

503
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Speaker 3: the fifth receiver.

504
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Speaker 2: So let's see what does Xavier I'm thinking, I'm thinking

505
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: about this the Chris Moore, right, Chris Moore is a

506
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Speaker 2: return guy.

507
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: No, he's is he return he's a return guy?

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: And uh, when we had him in the Big Red Rage,

509
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: He's like, I still have my track speed? He saw,

510
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: I still have confidence in my return ability. Yes, had

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: rep say as a return guy, and especially in practice

512
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: and the joint practices. He got his reps. But I mean,

513
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: Savior Weaver can do everything that Chris Moore can do

514
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: in terms of being the return guy. Well, I see

515
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: him as being a better receiver already, do you see? Yes?

516
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Speaker 3: I do have be Weaver hard because I see Chris

517
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Speaker 3: Moore as a guy who you could use as a

518
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Speaker 3: gunner or something. And I don't know if Xavier Weaver

519
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: is big enough to do that.

520
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Speaker 2: No, he and he isn't he isn't he? That is

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: just on the one he's like a buck sixty.

522
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Speaker 3: And is DJ Dallas returning for you at all?

523
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Speaker 2: Oh?

524
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

525
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah. The question is, well, how many returners do

526
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Speaker 2: you need? Well, the question is and I don't think

527
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: we have an answer to this. Maybe I missed it,

528
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: but are they using Greg Dorch as a regular return

529
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: man or not considering he's your slot number.

530
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Speaker 4: Three receiving about it?

531
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Speaker 2: I mean it's one thing to use him in a

532
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: controlled environment of practice and in the regular season, are

533
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: you using great because if you're not, it's DJ Dallas

534
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: and to be named later Xavier Weaver for example, it

535
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Speaker 2: could be Chris Moore. Uh you know so.

536
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Speaker 3: George said he wanted to be a return man too,

537
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: and it's like.

538
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: It could be Michael Carter as a return We've seen

539
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Amar de Mercado as a return guy. So that's by

540
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: the way, in talking to some of the players, I

541
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: know you guys have as well. There's a lot of

542
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: players who think most teams are completely sandbagging and then

543
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: this whole kickoff and kickoff cover thing, that teams will

544
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: be using completely different return personnel than they used in

545
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Speaker 2: the preseason, that teams are really hiding a lot of

546
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: stuff and it's gonna be borderline chaos week one. We'll

547
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: see see.

548
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Danny doesn't agree. She asked Jonathan Gannon about the other

549
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Speaker 3: day and he was so open about talking so much

550
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Speaker 3: about it.

551
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Speaker 2: Yes, he was a fan of.

552
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Speaker 4: My question, which means it was the question there you go.

553
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, what other rooms are gonna be

554
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: ultra contested? Outside linebacker Xavier Thomas has made this team

555
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: along with Zamon Collins, so Zamon Collins, Dennis Gardek, and

556
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: then after Xavier Thomas, how many of you keeping in

557
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: that outside linebacker room? And where do you go next?

558
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: In terms of the depth chart, Victor d Mucage right,

559
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: I nearly had three. He's a lot. So then it's either,

560
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's Jesse Luketto is on all the teams,

561
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Speaker 2: Cam Thomas. There's a reason Cam Thomas got so many

562
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: reps against the Colts. They needed a closer look. They

563
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: need him to prove himself right, make plays, make the team.

564
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: He did. He had a pretty good showing.

565
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Speaker 3: I mean I could see them keeping six outside linebackers

566
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: because the special teams couldn't you? Yeah, I mean Luketta

567
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: not only is on all the teams, but he also

568
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: graded out the best defensively. I coordinated Pro Football Focus

569
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Speaker 3: against the Colts.

570
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Speaker 2: And what is Jonathan gannon fond of saying that, you

571
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Speaker 2: know what, it's not just running back against running back,

572
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: it's running back against another room. So in this case,

573
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: let me take the Xavier Weaver. Let's say you're keeping

574
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: Chris More and now the question is Xavier Weaver or

575
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: Cam Thomas. Now, all of a sudden, you are keeping

576
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: six receivers and only five outside linebackers throwing that out there.

577
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: So but I do think, no matter what you think, Paul,

578
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: I do think it's easier if you want, if there's

579
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: a reason why you want to keep both. I do

580
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: think it's easier to get Xavier Weaver to the practice

581
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: squad than Cam Thomas cornerback.

582
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: So at this point, Sean Murphy Bunting, Garrett Williams, Starling Thomas,

583
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: Max Melton all making this team, key, Trell Clark, Elijah Jones,

584
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: how deep do you go Darren Hall?

585
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: Although Darren Hall is essentially a safety, they they've been

586
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: playing him in safety it so.

587
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: And you have three keepers at safety between the two

588
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: starters and Rabbit. So I mean at that point, look,

589
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: you're running out of roster spots in the guess what.

590
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: Joey Blunt was running second team safety most of August

591
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: Andre Sasiat second team safety most of camp, and both

592
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: those guys, especially Blunt, play teams. So speaking of gunners, it, yeah.

593
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: I still think Darren Hall is a long shot as

594
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: well as he's played because because Joy Blunt, for instance,

595
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: is a guy that I think Jeff Rodgers really likes

596
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: for special teams you know.

597
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: So anyway, there you go. That's your roster Roulette minus

598
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: the roulette wheel, which we'll try and add and you know,

599
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: maybe at least a sound effect you know, for next year,

600
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: at the very least.

601
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Week from today. Polly, that's right.

602
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'll see if I can get in on that.

603
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking that outside linebacker room, Kyle Nabush

604
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: made a salient point. Imagine that considering we went to

605
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: three Pro Bowls playing that position. But what the Cardinals

606
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: might lack in the premiere all pro caliber edge rusher

607
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: do they make up for to a certain degree, little

608
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: bit a little bit in terms of the types. Think

609
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: about different Xavin Collins is from Dennis Gardek, who's now

610
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: very different from a speed rusher like Xavier Thomas, who's

611
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: different from a raging bowl like Victor d Mucage or

612
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: Jesse Luketta, who not only looks quicker but maintains he

613
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: is quicker. That was the answer to his question. Yes,

614
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: I am quicker this year. So he looked pretty good

615
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: in that game. But maybe just maybe with the fortified

616
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: D line room and the different body types it outside linebacker.

617
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you had four sacks, you easily could add

618
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: seven against the Colts. I get it, everybody, now, it's

619
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: a preseason game in their backup offensive lineman. But based

620
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: on what we saw in the joint practices where a

621
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: guy like Darius Robinson, you know, jacked up Quinn Nelson,

622
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson, you know, Exavier Thomas ad is going against

623
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Speaker 2: the right tackle, I don't know I saw enough to

624
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: like in that. In fact, I would say the consensus

625
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: would be the Cardinals D line did better against the

626
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: Colts OUL line then the Cardinals O line did against

627
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: the Colts D line. That was sort of my takeaway

628
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: from joint practices over those two days. Agree or disagree?

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I would agree, I would agree.

630
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Cardinals O line depth

631
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: at this point? Is that a bigger question mark now

632
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: than when the Cardinals entered camp?

633
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: Yes?

634
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: It is, isn't it?

635
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: I think it is?

636
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

637
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, based on the two preseason.

638
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 3: Games, I think there were some high hopes. You know,

639
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: and I ate to rookies or rookies, and like Christian

640
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: Jones was in the fifth round. You mentioned Isaiah Adams

641
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: in the third round. I mean when those guys were taken,

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: I think there was a hope that they would be

643
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: ready to at least be backups. And we'll have to see. Now,

644
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: the Christian Jones got flagged four times for holding. I

645
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: don't know about the one that was declined. I've been

646
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: told by people that were watching and replays and everything

647
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: that two of those three, including the one that called

648
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: back the twenty yard run, was kind of if he flags,

649
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter. They were flagged.

650
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: So called him Tickie Tack. He saw the replays. That's

651
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: what Wolfe said. Yeah, you know what I almost said

652
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: on the air, tell me and I didn't tell me.

653
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: If Darren since you round when he played when number

654
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Speaker 2: seventy five was identified as a referee for the fourth

655
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: time in like seven plays, Yeah, I almost said ghost

656
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: of Levi Brown returning to Indianapolis. Remember the whole seventy

657
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: five fall start? Yeah, yeah, he had some moments that

658
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: was a common refrain from referees number seventy five. Fill

659
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: in the blank.

660
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: I do think if we're going to bring up Levi Brown,

661
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: I mean I do think Levi Brown. He was not

662
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: a great tackle, but I do not think he was

663
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: as bad as everybody says he was. No, he was

664
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: I mean he was a starting tackle in the Super Bowl,

665
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: and his fault was that not only did he get

666
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: picked so high, but that he got picked instead of

667
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson, and that was always going to kill him.

668
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying here saying what Christian Jones is

669
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: or is it going to be, But I did think

670
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: it was interesting that after the game, Jonathan Gannon was

671
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: somewhat bullish on how Christian Jones responded in the second half.

672
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: And again, I think Gannon is very good about protecting

673
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: his players and not criticizing them individually, but he seemed

674
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: very upbeat about how Christian Jones came back off of that.

675
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: And I will say this, if you watch Game Plan

676
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: this week, Jonathan Gannon's TV show, We did his interview

677
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: here moments ago, and he did maintain and he was

678
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: vehement about it, that this is not a formality preseason

679
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: game number three. There are need you need two hands

680
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: to count all the jobs on this fifty three that

681
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: are still open and or under consideration. So you know,

682
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times they kind of say the right things,

683
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: but this was a genuine delivery of, Hey, these guys

684
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: better come to play. If you are playing, you have

685
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: something to play for because if you've made the Week

686
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: one roster, you're not playing.

687
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been made clear the number of starters who

688
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: have been. I mean, that's that's why I feel pretty

689
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: confident in Jay Jones being one of your top four receivers.

690
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: The offensive line, I think we should. You know, the

691
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: way we're gonna say, a Clayton tun or a Desmond Ritter,

692
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: if they have to go in in a regular season game,

693
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: would have your starting offensive line, your starting offensive weapons.

694
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: If one of these younger offensive lineman has to go

695
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: and fill in a spot in a game, they would

696
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: be surrounded by veterans and a starting offensive line that's

697
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: not going to negate the negative traits that we've seen

698
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: or the penalties or mistakes that have been made. I

699
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: do think it is something to keep in mind of.

700
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: It's a little different if we're having to see I

701
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: don't think it would be Isaiah Adams, but if we're

702
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: having to see a John Gaines or Marquise Hayes go

703
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: into a game, I think it would look different if

704
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: they've got Parish Jahantston junior and yelled to Froholt or

705
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: Will Hernandez next to them.

706
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: I agree, but I was talking to go ahead there,

707
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: and you were gonna say I was.

708
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: Just gonna say it was like we were talking about

709
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: with a quarterback. I mean, part of the thing about

710
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 3: this is we're talking about these guys like they're all

711
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: going to play together, and if they end up seeing

712
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: the field, some of these guys, it's going to be

713
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: within all these other people that, like Danny said, you,

714
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to say you're hiding anything, but you're.

715
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 4: Can maybe get away with a little more.

716
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right. So look there's that, right, and

717
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: then there's also what people forget, and I think it's

718
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: probably the most valuable thing about the joint practices is

719
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: it isn't just preparation of the preseason. It's evaluation, right,

720
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: and you get a real sense of your players against

721
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: another team's roster and against their ones, and it's a

722
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: controlled environment. And so for all that, I'm wondering, in hindsight,

723
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: as you look back at those two practices, was there

724
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: anyone that needs to be identified and or credited? For example,

725
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: for me, I thought Zay Jones had an excellent two days.

726
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 2: I really did you made that clear? Yeah?

727
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: So is there anyone else you think he's getting seven touchdowns.

728
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: On that list, said six or seven? Can I off

729
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: for that? By the way, the can I just say

730
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: the the over under? I'm on a roll right now,

731
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: all right, PAULI parlay. I'm not allowed to bet. I

732
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: can't bet, it's prohibited.

733
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: But the two that I still are gambling training.

734
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: The two that I had got I gotta get on that.

735
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: The two that I forecasted have come true. By the way,

736
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: d backs over under was eighty three wins. Come on,

737
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna be way beyond that. And then I remember

738
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: vividly before the draft in April, I was on with

739
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: Wolf and they mentioned that the Vegas over under on

740
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks taking a round one was four and a half.

741
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: Was that not the easiest money ever? Are you kidding me? Right?

742
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: Five quarterbacks absolutely were guaranteed to go in round one,

743
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: and they did. I don't know, pis okay? Strike that?

744
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry?

745
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

746
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: In terms of other takeaways from the practic, where were

747
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: you guys during the downpour? By the way, in the.

748
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: Same same vicinity, you were just under a different ten

749
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: different tent, okay?

750
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: All right?

751
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: Just all right, yeah, I was. I was mostly although

752
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: I found I have all in my bag, which I

753
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: had forgotten about until about twenty minutes into the rain

754
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 3: that I always have with me, and I forgot about that,

755
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: and so I broke it out, and when it was

756
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: an absolutely downpouring, I did go out and try and

757
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: watch it a little bit, but when it was downpouring,

758
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: it wasn't worth it.

759
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: I feel a little better now because Paully idiot face

760
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: had a rain jacket in the room, and literally literally

761
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: I sat there for a one and said, should I

762
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: bring it? Nah, I don't want to lug it around.

763
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: It's not really going to rain. No, no, big, have

764
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: my rain.

765
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: Pants and like a better raincoat than the one that

766
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: I brought you.

767
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: Danny had a coat. She was all prepared, and I

768
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: swear to god, it was like pointless after some of

769
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 3: that rain. She was soaked.

770
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: So on the TV broadcast, did Pasch make note of

771
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Wolf's brand new shirt? He did, he did, Yes, it was.

772
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: It was truly a no comprendo moment. Ron Wolfley traveling

773
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: with a piece of luggage bigger than anything Taylor Swift

774
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 2: travels with on her Earra's tour, and he somehow still

775
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: forgot to pack a dress shirt in there.

776
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: And its defense. He's only on TV twice a year.

777
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: So we had to go to Nordstrums. We had to

778
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: go to the department store and he had to pick

779
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 2: out a dress shirt. In the morning of the game,

780
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: we had to go over there, and my buddy John

781
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: Spillman shot out because he gave us a ride. He

782
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: was our taxi driver, and boom, we ran over there

783
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: and then Wolf is buying the shirt and I'm saying

784
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: to myself, Okay, this is Nordstrums, and you know, is

785
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: Wolf truly capable of pressing this shirt in his hotel room.

786
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: The answer was a resounding no in my head. So

787
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: we had to ask the employee if they would be

788
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: so kind to press said shirt. Apparently they did a marvelous.

789
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 4: Job, so I've got great customer service.

790
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: It popped on the air, so there's that.

791
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Have you ever forgotten anything on a trip there, Paul, Absolutely,

792
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: I have, Yes, anything you want to bring up.

793
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: I've left behind boots when I should have had boots

794
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: on many road trips and ruined many shoes over the years. Yes,

795
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: I have.

796
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: I think I think I've told the story.

797
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: Holding the snow Game in New England.

798
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: And the podcast before when the Cardinals went to the

799
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Greenbrier in twenty fifteen, Carson Palmer forgot to pack his

800
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: leg his knee brace. That was the year. That was

801
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: like three weeks into the year after he tore his acl.

802
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: That's called a overnight shipping, right, They got that out.

803
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: Express, although I believe he played the Detroit game, which

804
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: was on the front end of that without a brace.

805
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: So okay. You know. By the way, Wolf had a

806
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: tough trip. He was also hassled by the yellow security

807
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: jacket trying to get into practice. This volunteer lady, Wow,

808
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: was she adamant that Wolf was not allowed to enter

809
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: without his blue wristband. It was what blue wristband exactly? Somehow?

810
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: Wolf mean, it was just tough. I told him, I said,

811
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: that's the toughest adversary you've had on a football field

812
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: since you had to block lt that security lady him right,

813
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: So there was that. By the way, the golf cart drivers,

814
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, one golf cart driver told me told us

815
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: that when Quentin Nelson, all three hundred and thirty plus

816
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: pounds of him, gets on the back of a golf car,

817
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: he has to have a counterweight. He has to have

818
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: another player sit up front, or the back end drags

819
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: on the back wheels and they can't you can't even

820
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: get out of drive.

821
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: Do you know Jim Trotter?

822
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: Is I do?

823
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: Jim Trotter longtime NFL writer back in the day. He

824
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: knew a lot of the He knew Darnell Dockett pretty well,

825
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: a couple of the defensive linemen. I remember we went

826
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: to a preseas I think it was a preseason game.

827
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: There was a game in San Diego, and I'm assuming

828
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: Trott came over to like go to dinner with them.

829
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: So he was picking up Dockett, and there was also

830
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: Antonio Smith and there was one other defensive lineman and

831
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 3: Trotter was driving a regular sedan, and Dude, when he started,

832
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: I did not think that thing was going to be

833
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: able to get to where it was going because the

834
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: back end of that thing.

835
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: Was just lowrider, lowrider. That's good.

836
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: That happens when you put all those football players in

837
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: your car.

838
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: By the way, I see here on the list of

839
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: potential topics to talk about Darren's recreation of who did

840
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: you go over to the Butler field House?

841
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: I did?

842
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: You did?

843
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: I did? Okay, Yes, Chris Melvin managed to work it

844
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: out and we got a nice little tour and I

845
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: got to take a couple of shots out there. And

846
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: here's the best part, Like we did recreate the photo

847
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: for the the Hoosiers like tape measure thing. The guys like,

848
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: we can go in there take some pictures. You guys

849
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: want to ball, You want to take a couple of

850
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: shots where like yeah, yeah, he goes, I'll grab you

851
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: a tape measure too, so you can take that photo.

852
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: So it worked out pretty well.

853
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: It was just stand over on the sideline where Jimmy Chitwood,

854
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, and he said, coach, I can make it.

855
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: Did you deliver the famous line at the very end?

856
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: Let's see that? Okay?

857
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: I mean we weren't getting on anybody's shoulders or anything.

858
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm not putting Chris Melvin on my shoulders.

859
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, but yeah, no, that's well done. Okay, it

860
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: was good.

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: I was I was wearing my Hoosiers T shirt.

862
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: Danny. How how was the State Fair? By the way,

863
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: did I bury the lead? Did you actually you know,

864
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: try some of those items we were talking about the

865
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: State Fair? Did indulged inn't you?

866
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: I did a little. I tried pickle pizza.

867
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Pickle pizza. Okay, all right, break that down. Give us

868
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: an ingredient breakdown. It was check fit check on the

869
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: pickle pizza.

870
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: It was like an Alfredo sauce, and then it had

871
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: some thick pizza or pickle slices, and then it was

872
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: drizzled with like a Dil's Ziki sauce and had dial

873
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Speaker 4: so the flavors worked. I will say the stand I

874
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Speaker 4: went to, the pizza was a lot heavier than the

875
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: ones and videos I'd seen online. Like it was. I

876
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Speaker 4: gave it an eight out of ten is what I'd

877
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Speaker 4: give it, only because like the slice was so heavy.

878
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: It was like too heavy on the sauce for my liking.

879
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was out at Alfredo. And then you add

880
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: the Tazeki sauce there.

881
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: Alfredo like a just a lighter sauce. It's just like

882
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: it wasn't Marini?

883
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: I have to ask. I think I saw you on

884
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: the TikTok video also with the fried Oreo? What else

885
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: did you have?

886
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 4: Oreo, Fried Reese's peanut butter cup.

887
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 3: Did you eat all of all three of those things?

888
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: No?

889
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: I had a bite of the oreo and a bite

890
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 4: of the butter cup.

891
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Okay, because I was well, because I was curious, like

892
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: how you felt after I mean a slice.

893
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: Of pizza, that was it. But we walked.

894
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: You walked around the state fair. You don't walk to

895
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: the state fair, right, Okay?

896
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: Did I see a deep fried pizza on a stick

897
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: or something like that?

898
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: Yeah? That was like essentially a col zone? Is really what?

899
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 4: That was just really doughy. I didn't have that, but

900
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: someone in our group did.

901
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: Matthew brought home?

902
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Someone smuggled a corn dog home? Or was it not a.

903
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: Real corn dog that would smell a massive stuffed corn

904
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: massive stuff corned doff from.

905
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Speaker 4: The basketball competition?

906
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I guess you know, Darren finished second.

907
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: I was not invited to the state Fair.

908
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: All right, that's interesting, Okay.

909
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have participated. I would have

910
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: beaten the breaks off from Matthew there.

911
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, Well, when is the Americopa County Fair because

912
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: we do need to set that up.

913
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: You know, I've lived here almost my whole life, and

914
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: I've never once gone to the air zone.

915
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: I went to the Arizona State Fair when I moved

916
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: out here.

917
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: It was meh oh, by the way, I saw this stat.

918
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Speaker 2: Here we go. Here's your holy can only stat for

919
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: this edition of Cardinals Underground. Do you realize that Cardinals

920
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: versus Colts in the preseason was their first matchup in

921
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: the preseason since Johnny Unitis against Jim Harten nineteen sixty seven.

922
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: We've only been there a couple of times anyways in

923
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: the regular season.

924
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: What what so uh? There was that? By the way,

925
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: speaking of preseason opponents, can I go on a little

926
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: bit of a rant here?

927
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: Is this the rant? You promise this at the beginning?

928
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: Can we swap out Denver? Sure from anywhere else for

929
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: Las Vegas?

930
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: Are you talking the city or the stadium?

931
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the preseason finale, the destination, the opponent.

932
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 2: There needs to be the whole duel in the desert

933
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: dynamic between Phoenix and Vegas for the preseason finale. What's

934
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: all this Denver stop? I mean that that obviously has

935
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: gotten no traction over the years. There's nothing about the

936
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: Mountain time zone or Rocky whatever. No, just and I

937
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: really thought when they put the Raiders in Vegas and

938
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: they basically copied the Cardinals stadium in a lot of ways,

939
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: with a lot of similar design elements and the Cardinals

940
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: and Michael Bidwill were very helpful with the whole Raiders process.

941
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: True in designing all that and making it happen. I

942
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: just thought naturally that like this preseason rivalry, especially being

943
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: an AFC NFC team, would develop.

944
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: I'd agree with that take. I might like, I have

945
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: nothing against Denver as a city, but I don't enjoy

946
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: going to their stadium or playing against the broad like

947
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 4: it doesn't do anything.

948
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: You know. What I don't talk about enjoy is going

949
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: to yet another city that's one hundred and fifteen degrees.

950
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: What are you people talking about?

951
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's indoors. What did I hear that the weather

952
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: forecast in Denver on game day is going to be

953
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: ninety plus?

954
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: Yes, here's definitely going to be ninety plus. Goodness, it

955
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: was supposed to be ninety plus even hotter at one point.

956
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: But man, could you imagine going from the radio booth

957
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 4: the first two games to be down sideline.

958
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: The home game right now?

959
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: It's only ninety on? Oh boy, So you got that? Yeah,

960
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: that's I'm sure you won't be I'm sure you won't

961
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: be in the sun on that when you get to Denver.

962
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: By the way, can I also say I jotted this down?

963
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Where did I see recently? Was it Broncos helmets right

964
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: above the face masking right in the forehead there, and

965
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: they you know, you put a little saying or whatever,

966
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: little branding fifty to eighty. I'm so sick and tired

967
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: of Denver marketing their elevation. It's on the court for

968
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: Nuggets games, it's on their city jerseys.

969
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: There's a restaurant name that, because I remember passing that

970
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: when we were in Denver last When you.

971
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Go into the Broncos stadium, right outside the visitors locker room,

972
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: there's a massive three story mural you're in five thousand

973
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 2: feet a mile above right, trying to scare the pants

974
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: off every opponent that comes into mile high Stadium. We

975
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: get it, you're a mile high. We don't need to

976
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: see it in every piece of branding and jerseys and

977
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: stadium signage. Enough Bosta with that, right.

978
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: If you don't have a good enough team, it doesn't matter.

979
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: And if you have a good enough team, it doesn't matter.

980
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter.

981
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: You know what we should do? And here we go,

982
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: calBC consulting.

983
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: Is this more ranting? What I want to know? What

984
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 3: ranting you were referring to at the beginning.

985
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: The cardinals helmets should have the number one two two

986
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: above the face mask.

987
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: Do you don't want when you're doing that, you're going

988
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 4: backwards for.

989
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Okay, one to two?

990
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: How many how many years they've been around?

991
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: No?

992
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

993
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Else?

994
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh, the temperature.

995
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Record, the all time high temperature. If Denver is going

996
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: to go with fifty two to eighty for the elevation,

997
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: the PHX needs to go with one two two for

998
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: the all time high temp.

999
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: But you have to admit that the elevation still is elevation,

1000
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: whether your indoors or outdoors.

1001
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: And that's why don't you kick us off and wear

1002
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: a hat and tape that on.

1003
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: So you're saying one two two it would should be

1004
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: your hat this weekend. P One two two wouldn't work.

1005
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: I guess if you're indoors and it's climate control, does

1006
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: that probably not? Okay? Well, well, I don't want to work.

1007
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: I like I like the direction you're head.

1008
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: The concept needs a little work. You're right, I don't

1009
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: disagree with that as you you can.

1010
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: Use that idea man feed mayonnaise.

1011
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, since I can tell you guys don't.

1012
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with this. All right, we talk about Colorado.

1013
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: You know you're from Colorado. If you're ready, I'm gonna

1014
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: run these down. Okay, all right, these could be funny.

1015
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: Maybe there. You know you're from Colorado if you wear

1016
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: flip flops every day of the year, regardless of the temperature.

1017
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: I hate seeing men wear flip flops unless you're at

1018
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: the beach or by the water.

1019
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: Is that an itck for you, Danny?

1020
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're from Colorado if you think that

1021
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: June is a total, totally normal and acceptable month for

1022
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: a blizzard.

1023
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't know that.

1024
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: You know you're from Colorado if you always know the

1025
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: elevation of where you are. We covered that the signs

1026
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: are there, So this is the best one. You know

1027
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: you're from Colorado if the bike on top of your

1028
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: car is worth more than your car.

1029
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: I like that one. I could see that.

1030
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 2: And they kind of get increasingly more lame from here.

1031
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: You know what a trust fun hippie is and you

1032
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: know its natural habitat is Boulder.

1033
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. These are going to start getting more deeper in

1034
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: the weeds, aren't they.

1035
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: You actually know that South Park is a real place,

1036
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: not just a show on TV.

1037
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why it's named South Park.

1038
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: You frequently switch from the furnace to your air conditioning

1039
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: during the same day. And finally, you know you're from

1040
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Colorado if Jay Feely your golf bag has a nine iron,

1041
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: a three wood, and a lightning rod.

1042
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that would be.

1043
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: As I told you, they got decreasingly worse as it

1044
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: went on the whole. You know, bike is worth more

1045
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: than your.

1046
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 3: Car's not even laughing over there?

1047
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: Really, come on, how about a courtesy.

1048
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 3: Laughing Matthew's just trying to stay awake.

1049
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we'll had a laugh. Try to edit

1050
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: that out as well. All right, we have to do

1051
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: a lot of editing on this this episode.

1052
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 4: I know everyone's gonna think I'm anti fun. I'm not

1053
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: anti fun. Pickle pizza, I will say not to continue this.

1054
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: The first time the mascot got my face, I laughed like,

1055
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: I'm not like some Are.

1056
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: You sure I did?

1057
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: I did? You could ask yes, ask our security team,

1058
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 4: ask Grace. When I was talking to the second time,

1059
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: I told her the same thing. My thing is if

1060
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm walking and I'm like not trying to watch the

1061
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 4: game that I'm clearly reporting on. You can have fun,

1062
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: that's fine. If you're gonna want to interrupt people who

1063
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: are doing their jobs, go do it on the sideline

1064
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: with the home employees.

1065
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Speaker 3: I was going to say something about this blue is

1066
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: beating a dead horse, but it's.

1067
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Speaker 2: Say, oh, that is a good mic drop Danny beating

1068
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: a dead horse. That'll do it for this edition of

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