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Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. You heard the man that time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your

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Speaker 2: line from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Absolute jam Pack Show tonight. We'll take up to three

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Speaker 2: By the way, congratulations to the Los Angeles Dodgers winning

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Speaker 2: five to three. Historical data shows that five game series

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Speaker 2: team that wins game one win seventy three percent of

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Speaker 2: the time. I know people have been worried about the

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Speaker 2: this team. But I move on because here's where I

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Speaker 2: want to start. Look, when you cover sports, when you

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Speaker 2: are a fan of sports, even a casual observer, you

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Speaker 2: think you've seen it all and then you see something new.

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Speaker 2: And if you happen to be watching a little college

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Speaker 2: football today, here's a little stat for you. There are

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six college football programs that compete

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Speaker 2: at the FBS level. That's the Bowls Series level, not

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Speaker 2: the FCS. I'm talking about FBS one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: six programs up until Saturday. All of them but one,

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Speaker 2: and this includes teams that hadn't won a game it

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Speaker 2: least led their opponent at some point this season, all

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Speaker 2: except one, and that would be the UCLA Bruins. Interestingly enough,

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Speaker 2: that Penn State hadn't trailed even one second at all

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Speaker 2: this year at all, and they faced UCLA, who was

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Speaker 2: a team. Let's just put it this way. They've started

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Speaker 2: slow and then faded until Saturday. They had already fired

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Speaker 2: their head coach, they dumped their offensive coreator number seven.

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Speaker 2: Penn State coming into town a twenty four and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. Sureley pissed off about choking it down

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Speaker 2: last week against or their last game against Oregon, But

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Speaker 2: don't call me Shirley. It turns out that maybe Nico

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Speaker 2: is going to pay dividends. Penn State coming to town.

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Speaker 2: Nico has struggled. Penn State a twenty four and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. And oh, by the way, thirty three

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Speaker 2: year old Jerry new Heisel, a young man who'd never

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Speaker 2: is an extremely bright guy who's an above average UCLA

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Speaker 2: the field. Nico dominated with Jerry new Heidel's game plan,

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Speaker 2: Go dominated Penn State through FO one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: six and two touchdowns. Ran the ball sixteen times for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty eight yards and three touchdowns. And yes,

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Speaker 2: the Bruins got four hundred and thirty five yards. They

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Speaker 2: out gained Penn State by about one hundred yards, which

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Speaker 2: is an incredible achievement considering UCLA entered the game one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twentieth in the country and offense out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six teams. By the way, this

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Speaker 2: is a Nitney Lions team led by defensive coordinator Jim Knowles,

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Speaker 2: who makes three million a year. Okay, arguably the best

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Speaker 2: I believe Ohio State's de coordinator is a national champion

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Speaker 2: team last year, and he got schooled. You hear bells.

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Speaker 2: You hear bells, Jim Knowles, you got schooled. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen going forward. But if

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Speaker 2: Nico can keep this up, the Bruins are going to

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Speaker 2: be a threat to people on their schedule. But regardless,

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Speaker 2: they can sure celebrate sat about playing spoiler to a

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Speaker 2: Penn State team that started the season ranked number two.

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Speaker 2: Everybody told us this is their year. They resemble what

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Speaker 2: Everybody back a loaded, experienced team. You got it. Same

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Speaker 2: way to screw it up. And I got no beef

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Speaker 2: be used to it by now. Who are going to

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Speaker 2: replace it with Bobby Petrino? So I think his job

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Speaker 2: By the way, they're not only zero to two and

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Speaker 2: Now I may eat my words, but you know, the

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Speaker 2: the larger point I want to make. You know, someone

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Speaker 2: People want to be entertained. You go to ball games,

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Speaker 2: hopefully they listen to Fox Sports Radio because they want

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Speaker 2: to be entertained. Well, someone told me a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: turns out predicting the future isn't so easy for some people.

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Speaker 2: And I digress because maybe I was dead wrong. See

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Speaker 2: the preseason AP poll ranked Texas and Penn State had

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Speaker 2: number one and number two respectively. Even last week we

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Speaker 2: them both to be top ten teams. I don't think

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Speaker 2: They both lost as favorites. Penn State getting beat by

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Speaker 2: loss because look, Penn State, for stretches most of their games,

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Speaker 2: produce explosive plays. Drew Aller had nineteen completions, went for

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Speaker 2: for aller Okay, well they got them on paper, that's

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Speaker 2: have been able to get some production out of those receivers,

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Speaker 2: but they didn't. However, Penn State's real issue Saturday was coaching.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it, when you have an interim boss and

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Speaker 2: you got a problem, you really do. You're going to

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Speaker 3: The Bruins scored that early touchdown and that surprise on

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Speaker 2: It's an automatic win on the schedule. As Penn State

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Speaker 2: practice psychology without a license. And if eik on bashing

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Speaker 2: Penn State and I need to go to Hell on

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Speaker 2: of the day, the film don't lie. The end result

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Speaker 2: was the first loss. And now you've heard of a

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Speaker 2: thousand times already had my note first loss by a

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Speaker 2: top ten team losing to a program that was owned

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Speaker 2: four in four years. Now I mentioned Penn State and Texas.

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Speaker 2: Texas goes down to the swamp. That's not a good

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Speaker 2: loss either. There's no such thing as a good loss.

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Speaker 2: I hate when people say that, well, it was a

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Speaker 2: good loss. No, it's like a good kidney stone. But

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Speaker 2: be easy. But now Texas heads into the Red River

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Speaker 2: rivalry without a power conference win he needed as Penn State,

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Speaker 2: and I know arch Manning continues to be an easy

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Speaker 2: the long runs. And I'm not defending pet or arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: been given a fabulous opportunity. I mean when Mahomes lost,

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Speaker 2: it is. He's part of the problem. March Manning, I

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Speaker 2: get it. I don't care what anybody says. It's an opinion,

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Speaker 2: from the minute play one at Ohio State. He ruled

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Speaker 2: Maybe he should have hit his cutoff man, But that's

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Speaker 2: not the arch Manning. We thought we knew. But I digress.

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Speaker 2: Preseason polls Texas and Penn State one and two respectfully. Yeah, hell,

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Speaker 2: why didn't they rank North Carolina in there? You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about a dumpster fire that we already knew

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Speaker 2: we saw coming. Oh my god. ESPN shared an interview

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Speaker 2: with his student, a North Carolina student going into commercial

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Speaker 2: saying something. So while Texas and Penn State we're number

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Speaker 2: said it best, coaching college football is like driving a

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Speaker 2: going forward. North Carolina doesn't have the horses, and I

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Speaker 2: questioned the coaching too, because they don't look prepared at all. Hey,

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Speaker 2: and nine minutes from the resumption of NFL Week Five's

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Speaker 2: welcome in Andy, Isco. The logical approach an absolute computer

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Speaker 7: How are you, buddy, I'm fine, Bernie. It's good to

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Speaker 7: join you. And I did catch the start of the

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Speaker 7: show and you did touch upon the where did that

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Speaker 8: Both of those teams?

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Speaker 7: An amazing performance by UCLA and rather I'll be kind

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Speaker 2: Right past this prologue. All right, let's dive into this

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Speaker 7: You know it's you. I'm in that Survivor contest over

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Speaker 7: The most intriguing game and one of the more difficult

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Speaker 7: Got Denver hooked up in a teaser at getting the

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Speaker 7: Of like they're with you. Yeah, the game flipped from

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Speaker 7: I like him tomorrow. I took the money line when

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Speaker 2: Of I'm with you, Andy, I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 7: I think the defense has been hearing about their performance.

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is three and one at Seattle three and one.

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Speaker 2: Very true. All right, Kansas, he's starting to get healthy,

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Speaker 2: Got thirteen takeaways this year in the NFL, the most

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Speaker 7: Liam Cohen. I think the players respond and Ten has

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Speaker 7: found his initials as a running back after coming out

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Speaker 7: of Clemson. With you, there's a former Clemson mate, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 7: who still struggles a little bit. But I think now

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Speaker 7: that they've got a reliable running games that back them up,

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Speaker 7: we may start to see a little bit more innovative

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Speaker 7: and creative game plans from the offense. And I think

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Speaker 7: the defensive improvement is an indication of more physicality that

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Speaker 7: they are using all over the defensive unit, and the

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Speaker 7: city has improved. But I'm not totally sold on them yet.

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Speaker 7: This will be a key taste. Can they a key test?

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Speaker 7: Can they continue the momentum that really started at the

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Speaker 7: end of the Giants game two Sunday nights ago when

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Speaker 7: it was nine to six and the fourth quarter scored

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Speaker 7: a couple of late touchdowns. I need to see more

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Speaker 7: than one good performance. I would not be shocked if

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville wins the game. If they pull the upset here,

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Speaker 7: I'm hoping to see the line go to plus four.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, my beloved Lions, who are covered for

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Speaker 2: many years. Three and one it feels like a you know,

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Speaker 2: cupcake game at Cincinnati Sunday. But you know, don't tell

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Speaker 2: that the Penn State, but the Lions and NFL best

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Speaker 2: thirty four points per game this season, Andy and the

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Speaker 2: Bengals have been outscored by sixty three since burrows injury.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this is a layer for the Lions.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not you know, I'm not in a hurry

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Speaker 2: delay that number your thoughts, although I expect them to cupboard.

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Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, it's the only side I can play in

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Speaker 7: the games. I mean, Cincinnati is a totally different team

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Speaker 7: without Joe Burrow. And he actually wasn't all that the

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Speaker 7: office was not that potent when he was in there,

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Speaker 7: and that you know game, plus that that he played

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Speaker 7: the you know, you tell me the Cincinnati Bengals allowed

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Speaker 7: sixteen points in the game, as they did against Cleveland

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Speaker 7: and the opener, I say they win the game by

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Speaker 7: three touchdowns. Of course they won seventeen sixteen in that game.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, and now you're and now you're you're doing

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Speaker 7: with a backup quarterback who has been let's say undistinguished,

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Speaker 7: we want to call it. In his first couple of seasons.

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Speaker 7: The Lions. They were the They were actually the fourth

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Speaker 7: most popular team picked in Survivor this week, over.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen hundred See why.

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Speaker 7: Of the twelve thousand and I think that and they

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Speaker 7: did it, I think because they wanted the gimme. Even

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Speaker 7: though Detroit is one of those teams that plays on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 7: so you know, for that contest, you do have to

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Speaker 7: be aware for that short week that they have. I

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Speaker 7: don't know that I'm going to play the game. I

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Speaker 7: probably won't. In fact, the analysis I did suggested that

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Speaker 7: the best play in the game would be the over.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not quite sure if Cincinnati will be able

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Speaker 7: to get to help Detroit getting to that over forty

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Speaker 7: nine and a half. I think we see the Lions

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Speaker 7: getting between thirty and thirty four, and I'm not quite

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Speaker 7: sure if Cincinnati is able to crack seventeen Andy.

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Speaker 2: I've only got a minute left, but let's finish with

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. They're catching seven at Indianapolis. Ginos throwing a

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Speaker 2: league leading seven picks this year. Tyler Warren looks very good,

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Speaker 2: leading all tight ends and yards per catch and other statistics.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect to happen here in Indianapolis today?

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Speaker 2: I just got about a minute.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, well I heard a lot of sharp proofs

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Speaker 7: were playing the Raiders this week. Plus thing I get

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Speaker 7: to that, yeah, and plus the seven. And I don't

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Speaker 7: know if that's the setup to try and get money

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Speaker 7: to follow and throw that number down a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But they've struggled, and I take a look. You know,

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones been reincarnated as a quarterback now that he's

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Speaker 7: over with the Indianapolis Colts. And you look at the

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Speaker 7: Colts and the way that they've played so far this season,

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Speaker 7: I expected them to be an improved team, even that

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Speaker 7: loss last week against the Rams. I don't downgrade them

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Speaker 7: because of that effort. I liked what stich It has done.

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Speaker 7: He's built teams the first two years there nine and eight,

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Speaker 7: eight and nine, and I think he's putting things together

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Speaker 7: this year. I'm not sure if I would play the game.

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Speaker 7: The obvious play I think would be to tease the

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Speaker 7: Colts down to pick them or minus a half, and

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Speaker 7: I might end up going that way. But if I

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Speaker 7: were to play aside, i'd lay it before I take it.

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Speaker 2: Andy, great stuff. We'll get you on before the scence.

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Speaker 2: You do over joy your Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Andy, you too, Good luck to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Hey, Candy is good. The logical approach ivally educated.

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from the midnight hour from where I sit.

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Speaker 2: As you know, I'm in the Pacific time zone. It

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Speaker 2: will be twelve midnight literally from where you sit, perhaps

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Speaker 2: the same, but also from where you sit, it will

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Speaker 2: be the twelve min night hour, the midnight hour, figuredly

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Speaker 2: and literally. Because you get the last word. Now, I

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Speaker 2: expect we have two We have three topics tonight. The

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Speaker 2: third one is fairly benign. The first two or doozies.

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Speaker 2: I expect fireworks tonight, Callers, of what made this this

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Speaker 2: segment so good over the last couple of years. And

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Speaker 2: I usually don't do this, but I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 2: a quick tease just to set the record straight. Angle

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Speaker 2: Bert Caitlin Clark got her twenty eight million dollars Nike

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Speaker 2: deal in April of twenty twenty four, a full month

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Speaker 2: before she ever made her w NBA debut. Oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the WNBA averages about eleven thousand fans per game.

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Speaker 2: Is that good? I don't know. You tell me. The

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Speaker 2: USFL averages twelve thousand. Power five Division one women's basketball

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Speaker 2: teams average almost fifteen thousand. Now we're headed toward we

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Speaker 2: are headed toward an October thirty first deadline. And I'll

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Speaker 2: set up what I want the callers to weigh in on.

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Speaker 2: But I want to set the fact straight so people know, okay,

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Speaker 2: because all the news that comes out of the NBA

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Speaker 2: is always negative and it's off the court and it's

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Speaker 2: just asinine rhetoric. But if you think you're going to

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Speaker 2: beat your chest and you're gonna challenge this was done

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, and David Stearn says, you

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00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: got thirty days to get a deal you don't I

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Speaker 2: cancel the season. Well guess what they got one. Now

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00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: they're beating their chests. There's this newfound you know, bravado.

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Speaker 2: And you may agree with them, but take heed. The

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Speaker 2: NHL learned their lesson back in four and five when

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Speaker 2: the players went on strike and no one cared and

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Speaker 2: the season was shut down for a year. And I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, the NHL was hot in man, that's before

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Speaker 2: they had the Globe Puck and the NHL the coolest

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Speaker 2: game on ice. They were coming off ratings. Everything was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: They were on fire, and they were canceled for a

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Speaker 2: year and it hurt them badly. Major League Baseball, who

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Speaker 2: can forget the nineteen ninety four strike that took the

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Speaker 2: World Series away? It took five years for baseball to

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Speaker 2: recover thanks to Mark maguire and Sammy Soso, and you

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Speaker 2: know what happened there. Hey, the NFL learned their lesson.

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Speaker 2: They had replacement games for three weeks back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven. Mean, well, look the NBA. They've had four

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Speaker 2: work stoppages ninety five, ninety six, ninety nine, and twenty eleven,

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Speaker 2: and after every one of them, there was fan dissatisfaction.

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Speaker 2: There were lower TV ratings, lower ticket sales. These are

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Speaker 2: established leagues that have been profitable. The WNBA has done

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Speaker 2: nothing but lost money. They get their new TV contract

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Speaker 2: next year and it's ten years and two hundred million

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Speaker 2: a year, and you better be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 2: Neil Pilson did the same thing with CBS back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. Gave baseball a billion, they lost money, He

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Speaker 2: lost his job. That's one of three topics we're going

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Speaker 2: to have, but I haven't set up yet what I

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Speaker 2: want to hear from you on I just gave you

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Speaker 2: a little tease because we try to deal in facts here.

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Speaker 2: There are objective truths in our personal feelings, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: If you want to call in a way in their

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Speaker 2: personal feelings and believe the WNBA players should be paid

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Speaker 2: what they want to be paid, fine, make your case.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Man that hour is all about. So

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Speaker 2: we'll set up all three topics coming up. I'm Bernie

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Speaker 2: friderwer Comedy Alive from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right now. You listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right Back in

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Fratle Show Fox Sports Radio to you Alive

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: and we're fifteen minutes away from the midnight hour eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six six three six nine eight

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Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. Can't wait to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: These are our three topics. I think I've pretty much

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Speaker 2: teased the first one. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: WNBA for a very good reason. It all started last week,

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Speaker 2: I mean around Tuesday, when the FISA call you're a

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Speaker 2: star player for the Minnesota Lynx. Decided to eviscerate the commissioner,

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Speaker 2: Kathy Engelbert. Before she got to that, she talked about

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Speaker 2: the poor officiating and the bad leadership and need for changes.

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Speaker 2: And then she did what very few people are willing

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Speaker 2: to do in any major sport. Well, WNBA is not

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Speaker 2: a major sport, and take whatever the hell they want.

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Speaker 2: But they're not, but they are identity. She started to

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Speaker 2: describe her interactions privately with WNBA league officials about Kathy Engelbert.

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Speaker 2: She quote characterized Engelberg as dismiss impersonable, condescending, and callous,

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Speaker 2: even saying that back in February, allegedly Kathy Ingelberg told

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Speaker 2: her that Caitlin Clark should be grateful she makes sixty

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Speaker 2: million off the court, because it off the platform the

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Speaker 2: WNBA gives her. She would make anything that's funny. She

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Speaker 2: got the twenty eight million dollar contract from Nike a

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Speaker 2: month before she ever set fun on an NBA court. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ingelberg has been barbecued by the players, the fans, media

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Speaker 2: members the past five six days, and it hasn't been

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Speaker 2: pretty if you're a Kathy Ingelberg fan. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: the NBA's shorts aren't cleaning this damn deal, eid. And

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Speaker 2: either Kathy Engelberg is the least efficient leader of any

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Speaker 2: of the major sports, or she's a puppet. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the NBA has got kind of a unique ownership structure,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not going to go into that right now,

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Speaker 2: just to say, the NBA owns forty two percent of

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Speaker 2: the league and they've basically subsidized her for twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't be here. They've lost a billion dollars. Now

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Speaker 2: they get a TV contra, YadA YadA ya, and now

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody's fat and happy. Careful, careful,

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Speaker 2: he remind me of the guy who goes to one

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Speaker 2: karate lesson wants to fight the biker bar. You better

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Speaker 2: be careful. Yes, the d WNBA could face the lockout

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Speaker 2: or a work stoppage because negotiations for the new CBA installed.

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Speaker 2: They've got an October thirty first deadline. That's when the

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Speaker 2: CBA expires. Now, the damn season doesn't start till next May,

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Speaker 2: but you could have a delayed season, a canceled season.

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Speaker 2: Players are demanding a lot better salaries, more equitable revenue sharing.

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Speaker 2: They argue that their current compensation does not reflect the

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Speaker 2: league's growing revenue. No, no, I don't know if any

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Speaker 2: of that's true. Maybe maybe not, but I'm not here

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Speaker 2: to debate that. So right now we know this for sure.

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Speaker 2: The stalled CBA negotiations are real. The FISA Collier, I think,

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Speaker 2: was supposed to meet with the commission this week and

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Speaker 2: she canceled it. She cancel it and so so look,

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: a failure to reach out agreement could delay the start

643
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: of the season or, worst case scenario, lead to the cancelation. Okay,

644
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: they think they have momentum, Now I'm not really entirely

645
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: sure if they do, real they don't, We're being forced

646
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: fed the hell out of the WNBA. If you like it,

647
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm not here to bash it. Do what

648
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: you want to do, live how you want to live.

649
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: The question I have for the callers is simple, do

650
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: you think this is headed for a work stoppage? And

651
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: if so, what happens? Is this league sustainable in your view?

652
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Or do cooler heads prevail and they work this out.

653
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I really want to know what people think, because all

654
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: we see our negative craziness and irrational freaks yelling at

655
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: each other. It hasn't been good. I mean, we're way

656
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: past the Caitlin Clark stuff. The men at Kennedy Carter

657
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: slammed her from behind and a dead ball when nothing

658
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: was even going on around her. I could live with

659
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: a hard follow. She's driving to the basket whatever that happened,

660
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: you know, all day every day. But when you're not,

661
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: that's not a basketball play. No one does anything, should

662
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: even get a foul, The commission does nothing. Who's running

663
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: who's running this? You know monstrosity. On the other hand,

664
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Speaker 2: the NBA, the w NBA does have a cadrea fans

665
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: small that are devoted. So I want to hear from you.

666
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: Do you think this is headed for disaster or cooler

667
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: heads are going to prevail, and if there's a work stoppage,

668
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: it's this league sustainable. Number two. Remember John Gruden, he

669
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: ain't going away, peeps. He might have been kicked to

670
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: the curve four years ago, but all of a sudden,

671
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Nevada Supreme Court decided on

672
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Speaker 2: Thursday to unanimously, unanimously reject the NFL's petition to rehear

673
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: a previous decision grinding discovery. To Gruden, the long and

674
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: short of it is, here's what's happening. The NFL likes

675
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: to have their own arbitration managed by Roger Goodell, So

676
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: it's kind of a rig deck if you get my

677
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: drift and back in August, I mean, Gruden says, no,

678
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: we don't want to go to Europe. Roger Goodell leed arbitration.

679
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: We want to go to court. And back in August,

680
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Nevada's High Court ruled with five and five to two

681
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: in Gruden's favor that Gruden's lawsuit had to be litigated

682
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: in court. So the NFL took it up a notch. Now.

683
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: On Thursday of the Nevada Supreme court decided by seven

684
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: to zero vote to deny the NFL's petition for the

685
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: rehearing of the decision. This public litigation could potentially be

686
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: very embarrassing and damaging for the NFL because of the

687
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: nature of the discovery process and for you. I've got

688
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: a smart audience, So you know, discovery and law is

689
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: a pre trial phase. What happens is the parties to

690
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: a lawsuit to gather evidence, They obtained the evidence from

691
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: one another, and they share it. In this instance, this

692
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: kind of discovery could lead to both Gruden and the

693
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: public at large receiving access to some potentially very embarrassing

694
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: and damaging materials that are related to what the NFL

695
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: has been investigating into the Washington Commanders, which started six

696
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: years ago, which initially uncovered the Gruden emails. So what

697
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on the Gruden thing. He's gonna get

698
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: his day in court. What do you think this head's up?

699
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: Do you think the emails are released? Do you think

700
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: John Gruden wins his case? And do you think in

701
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: doing so, and again we're nowhere near a trou It's

702
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: gonna be. It's gonna be, you know, wild. Okay, Gruden,

703
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: he sued the NFL, claiming they intentionally leaked the emails

704
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: in order to force him out of his job. I

705
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but he got forced out of

706
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: his job. Okay. So Gruden is fighting back and he's

707
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: winning in the courts right now. So he got the WNBA.

708
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: There gonna be a work stoppage. What are your thoughts?

709
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Is this leak sustainable? If they have a work stoppage

710
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: or the season doesn't start or whatever, where does this go?

711
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: Or do you think cooler against prevailed? Or Burnie? What's

712
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: wrong with you? This product's good? Don't you like it?

713
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: John Gruden? Is he gonna prevail against the NFL? And

714
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: if so, where does that end up? Finally, I want

715
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: to stick up for Sean McVay. I respect tremendously what

716
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Sean McVay did on Thursday night. In Sean mcvay's career,

717
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: he's gone forward on fourth down eleven times and made

718
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: it six so he's, you know, fifty five percent, and

719
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: he opted for Bigvey opted to go for fourth to

720
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: one in overtime rather than kicking a field goal to

721
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: tie the game. He knew we can't win the game

722
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: if we kick a field goal here, there's not gonna

723
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: be enough time. Barn some miracle, you know, he might

724
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: have a Joe Pisarstik fumble or a butt fumble or something,

725
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: but the bottom line is that's not likely. So he

726
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: went to win it and he didn't. He played to

727
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: win the game herm Edwards. Then the Rams were stopped

728
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: and lost the game, and McVay later stated that, you know,

729
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: his decision to run the ball on that play was

730
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: a bad call, although analytics wonks say the decision to

731
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: go for it gave the Rams about a forty nine

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00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: percent chance to win probability out of a thirty eight

733
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Speaker 2: percent chance by attempting a field goal. So those are

734
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Speaker 2: your three topics, Sean mcvay's three, John mccrue, John Gruden,

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Speaker 2: Gruden easy for me to say these two and number

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Speaker 2: one the WNBA and you know the context eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine sixty sixty three sixty nine eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine one. Fox, let's have some fun. Dial

739
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: it up, be prepared, have your opinions, make your case.

740
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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to hearing from you. It's time

741
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Speaker 2: for the midnight hour. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show.

742
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: On Fox Sports Radio.

743
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

744
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: That's right, you hear the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show

745
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. Would

746
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: come to your line from the Fox Sports Radio compound

747
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Take you after three and Pacific

748
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: six am Eastern, just getting started and listen. We have

749
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: three provocative topics without two of the three. You know

750
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: my thoughts on the WNBA as we marched out October thirty. First,

751
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: David Stern wasn't it back in two thousand and three

752
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: he said, you walk goodbye. We shut down the league.

753
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen here. That's why

754
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: I want to hear from you and your thoughts. You've

755
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: heard my setup. Also, John Grutin continues to win in court.

756
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: The NFL might not have their way and have the

757
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell air quotes kangaroo court, where you know it's

758
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: kind of a kind of a rig deck arbitration. And

759
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: then of course Sean McVay went forward on fourth and

760
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: one Thursday night, went for the wind, beat himself up.

761
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I defend his decision, I really do. I know that's

762
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: kind of a minor topic. But hey, it's here. It's

763
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: the midnight hour alrighty eight seven seven nine nine six

764
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Speaker 2: six three sixty nine, and it's here from you. Bring

765
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: it hard as always and happy to hear from me.

766
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: Jim in Massachusetts starts us off tonight. Jim, I got

767
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: a feeling. I know where you're gonna go. But let

768
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: her rip.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, let the WNBA crashing spur. It's where they should

770
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 10: be going. I heard that the commissioners talking about the

771
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 10: lady that came out against her. Where do these people

772
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 10: come from? You know what, it was a closed group

773
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 10: for over a decade. You know, it's all about you

774
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 10: know what they want, and no one's really watching. Then

775
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 10: you have a star show up like Caitlin Clark and everything,

776
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 10: and then everybody starts watching, even people that don't like

777
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 10: to sports start watching and to see what's going on.

778
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 10: I cannot believe the type of refereeing I'm seeing there.

779
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 10: I mean, Katel's out now. Other people are getting hurt.

780
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 7: They're not calling anything.

781
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 10: It's right in front of it. It's like, you know,

782
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 10: something happens, and then when they look at the ref

783
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 10: looks back like what are you looking at that? There's

784
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 10: nothing here?

785
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: It's just let's work stand the line, stand line, let's

786
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: wargame this. The question is, because these are all hackneyed,

787
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, subject matter that we've known about for a while.

788
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: But let's say the deadline passes, they don't have a CBA,

789
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: where does this go? Do you think it gets spilled?

790
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: The next season is not even going to start until May.

791
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: So the question is where does this go in terms

792
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: of is this league sustainable if they if they don't

793
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: come to a CBA agreement here.

794
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 10: If they don't have the agreement before the time it's

795
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 10: over burning, they're not going to go They're not going

796
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 10: to lose money anymore or any of this other stuff

797
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 10: going on. I just don't I just don't see it

798
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 10: going forward. But that's me, and I got blinders on it.

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Speaker 10: I can't stand anything that I'm seeing. No one can

800
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 10: make a shot seven feet in from the basket, even

801
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 10: your great players.

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00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, I'm not I'm not big in the

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00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: product EITHERY I'm with you, pal. I just I'm trying

804
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: to get to the vibe from the callers as to

805
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: as we head into next year. Uh, you know, all right,

806
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: let's move on real quickly. John Gruden. Is that going

807
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: to rear its head again? Is the NFL about to

808
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: be embarrassed?

809
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 10: Oh, you have no idea. I love John Gruden. I

810
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 10: always had loved John Gruden, even when he went to

811
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 10: the Raids fall of players that were due to exit.

812
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 10: Always got a second shot with the Raiders, you know,

813
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 10: he brought him in the second shot with them, and uh,

814
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 10: he's just you know, NFL coach everything. But this dirty

815
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 10: stuff that he's going to get out now now it's over.

816
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 10: It already went to the Supreme Court now though, and

817
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 10: now they're going to have depositions and everything else.

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00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: The NFL may take it to the Supreme Supreme Court,

819
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Speaker 2: but I don't even know if they'll hear the case.

820
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: So do you see, they're.

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Speaker 10: Not going to get involved in that we got we

822
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 10: got legs and everything else going on. They're not going

823
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 10: to want to hear from those clowns. They're just going

824
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 10: to say, let the previous you know, Supreme Court stand,

825
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 10: which happened to be undefeated right against the NFL. It

826
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Speaker 10: was not all right. They're toast, they're toast all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Sean McVay. I'm not a fan of Sean McVay.

829
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Speaker 10: But you know, going for it like that. Yeah, I

830
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 10: can see where the guys, you know they do you know,

831
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 10: double sessions practice and they'll wait room and all that stuff.

832
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 10: And he's given pride in to them to make it

833
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 10: and they didn't make it. But not going for the time,

834
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 10: trying to win an all the time, you know that's

835
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 10: a double edged sword. Yeah, but I'll go with him

836
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 10: on that call.

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Speaker 2: Just appreciate it as always, Jim starting us off. Look,

838
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: it's one of those deals. It's like Pete Carroll in

839
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl back in twenty sixteen. If it works,

840
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: you're a hero. If it doesn't, use the villa Jilliet idiot,

841
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Andrew and Bakersfield. You're up next. Welcome and Andrew.

842
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 11: What's up, Bernie? How's it going?

843
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Good man?

844
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Speaker 11: Okay, So I have a little rant, Go Dodgers, where

845
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 11: are you at? Ben Mallard? Stand up, Ben Mallard, Clap

846
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 11: Ben Mallard. And then I have a quick comment on

847
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 11: the WNBA. Just my dad had said, I can't remember

848
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 11: if it was about women's soccer or women's basketball, but

849
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 11: I think women's basketball. He said, the women are they

850
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 11: play the game in the right way. And so the

851
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 11: fact that they can't jump and dunk at this most

852
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 11: of them at this particular moment. The fundamentals, the passing,

853
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 11: the spacing and all that.

854
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: And so well they play it good. I'll give them

855
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: that they play a good brand of basketball, Andrew, And

856
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm not disputing anything you said when I'm trying to

857
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: figure out here among the callers is in twenty four days,

858
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: this CBA ends. And if you look at the other

859
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: leagues that laid out NHL, Major League Baseball, NFL, they

860
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: all learn their lesson in their own way to be

861
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: careful and they will established leagues. So what happens if

862
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: the CBA ends and there's a workstop? It's where does

863
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: this league go?

864
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 10: Well?

865
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 11: In general, I think that they should realize their value

866
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 11: and the league's value because the human beings and they

867
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 11: have value and fair.

868
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: But is it going to survive if they dare walk

869
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: the plank?

870
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 11: I mean eventually, all right, I think it should and will?

871
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Andrew. And finally John Drudin, you're gonna

872
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: beat him up for going forward on fourth and one

873
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: or say, hey, that was a good call.

874
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 8: Oh you try McVeigh.

875
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Sean McVay, I'm sorry.

876
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 11: I don't know. I think the NFL should take out

877
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 11: the tie because that probably had something to do with

878
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 11: his decisions. And I think the tie that's fair.

879
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: That's fair, Yeah, yeah, fair, all right. I don't like

880
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: you overtime. I don't like the yvertime. They do it

881
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: one way in the regular season, another way in the

882
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: UH in the postseason. I don't like that either, Andrew.

883
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate you your patience and checking in tonight eight, seven, seven,

884
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: nine and nine on Fox. UH. I want to hear

885
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: from from the peeps. Man did did? This is something

886
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: that's newsworthy the first sports fan Mike and Modesto been

887
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: a minute. Welcome back in Mike, how you been?

888
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 12: I'm pretty good, Bernie, great show is always. I'm gonna

889
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 12: be honest with the WNP. I just don't care about

890
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 12: it any way possible ever, so I'll just pass on

891
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 12: that one. John Gruden, John Gruden, I hope he does

892
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 12: embarrass the league, but the league is smart. They'll just settle,

893
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 12: pay him, get it over with. Don't be embarrassed. That's

894
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 12: the smart move because he's holding.

895
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: You bring it an interesting point, Mike, but it's my

896
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: understanding he doesn't want to settle. It's not about the money.

897
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: He got a nice path from the Raiders when he

898
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: got booted, and I think you got a situation where

899
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: he wants to clear his name.

900
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 12: So yeah, yeah, brit because obviously someone had acted the

901
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 12: grime with him and they purposely did that to him,

902
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 12: and he probably wants for advantage.

903
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: He does want, that's Swell said, And he does. And

904
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: I think that's when discovery comes out. And I explained

905
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: what discovery was earlier. That's where the NFL could really

906
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: be exposed. Finally, Sean mcvagh and his call Thursday night,

907
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I've got to pat him on the back. It didn't work,

908
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: but still thoughts.

909
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 12: As you know, I am a Rams fan and I

910
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 12: totally agree with the call for the reasons you said.

911
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 12: He played to win. The only thing I had to

912
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 12: done different is I to put the ball in Stafford's hands,

913
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 12: especially since they're not doing good and short yardage ever

914
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 12: since the Eagle game. Their their guard went out late

915
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 12: in the fourth quarter, and even the announcer commented when

916
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 12: they went on a fourth down, why would you run

917
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 12: that play when the guy that replaced them has been

918
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 12: getting pushed back in the backfield and that's what blocked

919
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 12: and field goes on and burning. It's the reason they're

920
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 12: being blocked is they're blowing the guard three yards in

921
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 12: the backfield on the Eagle game and the Niner game.

922
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 12: So why would you try to do the play he

923
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 12: ran when you're just getting beaten that bad on short yardage?

924
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 12: Put the ball in Stafford's hands and go with it.

925
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 12: All right, thanks for the time.

926
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: Burning your spot on, Mike. And that's therein lies the

927
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: essence of why Sean McVay beat himself up in retrospect.

928
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: He was more beating himself up with the actual play

929
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: call itself than the fact they went for it. Pat

930
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: and Florida joined. Just welcome in Pat to the Bernie

931
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: Frattles Show. How are you hey?

932
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 13: Good Bernie?

933
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: How are you good? What are your thoughts on these subjects?

934
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 10: Well?

935
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 13: I didn't catch the beginning, but I had to call

936
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 13: in because my thoughts on the best of the WNBA

937
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 13: is as followers and I've been waiting so sports in

938
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 13: generally entertainment. I watched sports for entertainments my free time,

939
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 13: and in my free time, I watched men's sports.

940
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 14: I don't have time to watch women's sports.

941
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 10: I love the ladies.

942
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 14: Believe me, I love the ladies.

943
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know enough about it, you know what exists,

944
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: and there what I'm trying to get from the people

945
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: pat is if these if this group overplays their hand

946
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: when they've all they've done, does lose money for two decades,

947
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: what happens is the league no longer become sustainable. That's

948
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: all I'm trying to find out for people.

949
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 10: I don't think it does.

950
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 14: I don't think it has the backing.

951
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 13: The majority of people who go to NBA games or

952
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 13: football NFL games, the majority of people in the stands

953
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 13: are men.

954
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 10: The minority of people that watch sports or men.

955
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 14: The women that watch sports are the wives and girlfriends

956
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 14: of men, usually, so men dominated. There's not how many

957
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 14: people are going to do how many women are going

958
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 14: to w NBA games? I just think, and again, nothing

959
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 14: against the ladies. I don't think it's good money and

960
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 14: all that, but if they expect to get the same

961
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 14: amount of money that men athletes get, it's a different ballgame.

962
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 14: You can't I believe it.

963
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they expect to get the same,

964
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: but they are some outrageous demands. I think you've made

965
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: your point, John, Gruden. You see what's happening there is

966
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: the NFL going to get embarrassed.

967
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 14: I think John Gruden wants to clear his name.

968
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 15: And absolutely absolutely it's pride for him, you know. And

969
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 15: he's a football guy. He should be in football. He

970
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 15: should be coaching, he should be broadcasting. He's good for football,

971
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 15: I think, And you.

972
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 10: Know what he said.

973
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 14: I don't remember the details, but it's some.

974
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: It's not good. It's not good.

975
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 14: I don't believe John Gruden is a racist person.

976
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 10: I don't think that at all.

977
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know the guy, but I don't

978
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 14: think he's a racist person.

979
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Real quickly at anything.

980
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 13: On Sean McVay, I think he's a great coach and

981
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 13: I think the Rams might still be in the super

982
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 13: Bowl this year.

983
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 10: I don't know.

984
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: I think what he did Thursday night, and I don't

985
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: mean to be sure with you, Pat or I just

986
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: need to get to the other callers. Thank you for

987
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: checking in. I applaud what Sean did. All right, Jeff

988
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: and Denver Dan in Wisconsin h won the five back

989
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: in the fold. Good to hear from you, Good to

990
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: hear from all of you. We're gonna get right to

991
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: you coming up please hang tight. I'll make it worth

992
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: your weight. I want to hear from all you real quickly.

993
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: You know, people like to weigh in on these things,

994
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: and what we had one particular gentleman, Ryan Burns. He said, Bernie,

995
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: a big fan of your show. But if you're going

996
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: to talk about the NBA, please include the fact average

997
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: price of a franchise is sorted by over one hundred

998
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: and eighty percent in one year's time, from ninety six

999
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: million to two hundred and sixty nine. Man, I have

1000
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: no reason to doubt them. I don't know if that's true, though,

1001
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: but I do know this. Historically, that league has financially

1002
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: struggled badly. They've operated and lost tens of millions of

1003
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: dollars every season, and their operating costs are increasing. They're

1004
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: expansion the investment in new facilities for teams to push

1005
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: or hire player salaries. They've added substantial costs that are

1006
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: not yet matched by revenue. Plus, there's a very complex

1007
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: ownership structure in the WNBA that makes it difficult to

1008
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: achieve overall consistent profitability. And now you've got player demands.

1009
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: Jeff Dan Hugh, hang tight, you are up next. I'm

1010
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: Bernie Fradder. We're come to your line from Las Vegas,

1011
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

1012
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1013
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,320
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1014
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,720
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1015
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,960
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1016
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 4: listen live.

1017
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Frattles Show Fox

1018
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. The Mannight Hour is off and running. We

1019
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: go back out to the phones. We're joined by Jeff

1020
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: in Denver. Jeff, welcome in.

1021
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 10: How are you hey?

1022
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Bernie good Man? Thanks?

1023
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 16: He first John Grudin the whole thing when that erupted.

1024
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 16: He wasn't even in the league. He was just announcing.

1025
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 16: That was just a total BS. And I am totally

1026
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 16: behind him on getting back on whatever he can get

1027
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 16: back to, because.

1028
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: I realize you're supporting him. But what do you think

1029
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: is gonna happen?

1030
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 7: Uh?

1031
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: If this is heard by a court and discovery comes out,

1032
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: you know it's not gonna be a good look for

1033
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: the NFL or anybody.

1034
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 16: No, it's gonna be a good look on the NFL

1035
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 16: because they screw it up. He's totally in the right,

1036
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 16: I think, because he wasn't even in the league when

1037
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 16: this thing came out.

1038
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Okay, we'll leave that there. Any thoughts from

1039
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: a man on the WNBA debacle that's about to happen.

1040
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 16: They needed to keep the WNBA for women, for girls, ladies,

1041
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 16: you know, give them a professional sport. I support it,

1042
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 16: don't necessarily watch it all the time, but I have watched.

1043
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: And that's fair. That's fair. No, that's fair. There are

1044
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: people who do support it. I understand that. But August thirty,

1045
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: October thirty, first, their CBA ends they're talking about a

1046
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: potential work stoppage, which wouldn't happen till next May, of course.

1047
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: But look the NHL, Major League Baseball, NFL, NBA, they

1048
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: all learned their lesson over the years, and they were established.

1049
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like this league is as nearly

1050
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: as established as wants to believe it is. So what

1051
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: happens if there's no CBA.

1052
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 16: It's gonna come down to it's gonna come down to

1053
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 16: the title nine argument.

1054
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's that doesn't apply here, my man. That doesn't

1055
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: apply at all. Gender equity is only in it's an

1056
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: educational it's a scholastic thing that Richard did signed into law.

1057
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 11: There.

1058
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with title line. I don't

1059
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: mean to jump on you there, but it has nothing

1060
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: to do with title nine. Nothing.

1061
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 16: No, But if the women deserve to have a professional league,

1062
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 16: I have one.

1063
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: They have one. So don't walk off your job and

1064
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 2: and you know, make some money and maybe you'll make more.

1065
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: But I like your I like your points, Jeff, You're

1066
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: you're definitive about your points real quickly. Anything on Sean McVay,

1067
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 16: Know, Man, I would have I would have went for

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Speaker 16: the tie, kicked it for the time, okay, ris losing

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Speaker 16: the game.

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Speaker 2: I accept that. Good good stuff, Jeff, appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 2: and uh, I accept that because down the road, that's

1073
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: one less loss and lost column. Assuming they tie, who

1074
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: knows the Niners would have got the ball back still

1075
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Speaker 2: with a couple of minutes, Dan Wisconsin joins, Dan, is

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00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: this your first time joining the Bernie Frowder Show.

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Speaker 17: Yes, but I've been listening to you for a lot

1078
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 17: of time. Thank you for being my best friend. And

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00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 17: I man, I listen to you every night. I went

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 17: through a lot of things and having your you know,

1081
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 17: listening to your show. It's been fantastic, just great. You

1082
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 17: know what to cut the juice, man, you know, m

1083
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 17: they eat a horse of peace really like if it

1084
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 17: worked whatever. You know, that's how people like kind of

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Speaker 17: view those things. And as far as the w NBA goes,

1086
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 17: it's like, man, I like that competitive thing. I like

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 17: sports in general. Right, they just don't have a big lens.

1088
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 17: It's hard to compute that, you know what I'm saying.

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 17: It's like, I get why people don't like it, and

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 17: I do. I'm a fan, you know, not like ultra

1091
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 17: fan like the NFL or the NBA or MLB. But

1092
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 17: you know, right now I'm in Wisconsin. My Brewers are thinking.

1093
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 17: But and I'm really happy about that. So you don't

1094
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying, Like the Jews, they just

1095
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 17: don't have that juice.

1096
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: So they average eleven thousand fans a game and the

1097
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: USFL averages twelve. Right A bout your stats, So be

1098
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: careful if you bite the hand to feed you. I know,

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: the TV t K next year? Anything on? Uh on

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: John Gruden?

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00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you know what, I don't know.

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00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 17: I really believe that Gruden.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 10: I don't think he's a bad dude. You know, I

1104
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 10: really don't.

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 17: I think he's good, like you know for sound bites

1106
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 17: and stuff like that. I don't think he's a bad

1107
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 17: human being. And it's really easy for people to criticize

1108
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 17: people all the time. It's like, come on, man, the

1109
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 17: guy's cool.

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00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 16: Let him roll, like, let him roll.

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 17: That's how I look at it, Dan.

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to check in and

1113
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: sit your listenership a lot. Hold it down there in

1114
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: the great state of Wisconsin, Hugh on the five is

1115
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Speaker 2: back bit a hiatus, but you take it away.

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00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 10: Man, Hey, how are you so? I have a question

1117
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 10: for you.

1118
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 18: This is an honest question. I'm not coming out here.

1119
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 18: I'm curious what is it about the WMBA that it's

1120
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Speaker 18: a topic on your show for quite some time now?

1121
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Because it's a highly charged, polarizing topic that crosses several spheres,

1122
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't need to spell it off

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Speaker 2: for you, Hugh. What I try to do is create

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Speaker 2: open ended topics that are that are topical. I've had

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Speaker 2: a radio I've been doing radio since June twenty seven,

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, and I have a rule. Why am

1127
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: I talking about this today? You know? Why did you

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Speaker 2: see in DEFEASA, Collier's remarks the commissioners being raged over

1129
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: the poles, and you got a CBA, the CBA that

1130
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: expires October thirty first, and they're talking about a workstopic

1131
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: And the last time that happened was two thousand and three.

1132
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: And David's Darren said, you do that, keep going, we're done. Well,

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01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: you don't have that kind of leadership now. So there's

1134
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: all kinds of reasons to be talking about this right now,

1135
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: just the way I did with Major League Baseball back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and the NBA back in twenty

1137
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Speaker 2: right on down the line. So continue on.

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Speaker 18: That's why people love you, man, and I love your

1139
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 18: passion Jesus. So yeah, I think the commissioner just dug

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Speaker 18: the grave basically with those comments. By the way, all right,

1141
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 18: so I'm Gruden. I just think he's a character, he's

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Speaker 18: a football mind. He would be good to be in

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Speaker 18: the NFL active.

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Speaker 2: That's how I do. That's fair. But here's the deal.

1145
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: I could you're a thoughtful guy. Hugh John Grewen is

1146
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: suing the NFL for orchestrating quote a malicious and orchestrated

1147
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: campaign to destroy his career by leaking emails containing offensive

1148
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: comments he sent to the media that led to his resignation.

1149
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm reading a quote. He's mad, he wants to find

1150
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: out who did this. He wants to barbecue him. Supreme Court,

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01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: may hear the case in Nevada. Supreme Court, Go ahead?

1152
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well that.

1153
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 8: Says it all.

1154
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 18: He's got it out for them. But I still contend

1155
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 18: regardless if he's coaching.

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 10: You know, he's a character, and characters in football are

1157
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 10: are good for football. That's that's all I'm saying. And

1158
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 10: he's not.

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 18: And he knows what he's doing too, right, So I

1160
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 18: think maybe he can separate the two things. He can

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 18: have his contention, But that would be funny. If he's

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Speaker 18: coaching in the NFL and he still has a lot

1163
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 18: of going on, that'ld be funny.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I don't think you'll see him head coach in

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: the NFL anytime soon. But I heard no joke. I

1166
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: hear there's whispers out of Arkansas. Bring him here. We'd

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: love to have him. And after Penn Stake continues to

1168
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: poop the bed, right, good, go ahead, you got the

1169
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: last word, John McVay.

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Speaker 18: I think he's a lot of the NFL though, So

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Speaker 18: Sean McVay, dude, there's one thing.

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Speaker 14: You know, the call.

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Speaker 18: Okay, it's early in the season, it's not really going

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Speaker 18: to be so meaningful when it comes down to it.

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 18: But there's one thing I can't get out of my mind.

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 18: And when they played Billy in the playoffs in the

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Speaker 18: snow last year, I couldn't believe that they just did

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Speaker 18: not run the ball once or twice instead of trying to.

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Speaker 16: Pass pass pass path.

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Speaker 18: In the snow in the fourth quarter because they were

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Speaker 18: actually gashing on running.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 18: That thing is never going to leave my mind.

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Speaker 10: I think he's a great coach.

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Speaker 18: I think he lost his mind when they were playing

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01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 18: in Philly and didn't just run.

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Speaker 9: The ball once or twice.

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Speaker 10: And so how does that relate.

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Speaker 16: To what the call was the other night.

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Speaker 14: Maybe they don't relate, but.

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01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they do.

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Speaker 18: I don't know. There was another caller that I did

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 18: here recently who said, you know, I didn't really agree

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 18: with the call, and maybe that's the answer. But man,

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Speaker 18: I cannot believe they did not run the ball in Philly.

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Speaker 18: They had that game, would have run the ball a

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Speaker 18: couple of times in the fourth quarter instead of just

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Speaker 18: trying to pass it in the snow, Hugh.

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Speaker 2: Always good to hear from you, man. You take care,

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Speaker 2: Dana and Denver joins us next welcome in, Dana, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 19: As far as the w NBE goes and what will happen, honestly,

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Speaker 19: I think that the you know, if they push the

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Speaker 19: envelope like they seem to these women, I think it

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Speaker 19: deserves to get blown up.

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Speaker 7: However, I don't think it's going to.

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Speaker 19: I think the optics will look terrible on all sides,

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Speaker 19: all the way around, and I think somehow, some way

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 19: it's going to survive, whether it.

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Speaker 11: Deserves who or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a fair point. Any thoughts on the situation

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Speaker 2: regarding John Gruden, and if you have thoughts on Sean

1213
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: McVay and the callid fourth to one go ahead.

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Speaker 19: Sure as far as John Gruden goes, I in some

1215
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 19: ways I feel sorry for the guy. I feel like

1216
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 19: the overreach seriously by the NFL, and I don't know

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01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 19: if they were trying to punish in going after him.

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Speaker 16: It was excessive, it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 19: And in some ways I can't again.

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Speaker 17: Kind of hope it does blow up.

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Speaker 19: I think that the NFL is so powerful, and I

1222
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 19: think that that was a total overreach, And you're right.

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Speaker 19: I think if that stuff does, you know, depositions and

1224
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Speaker 19: all that happen, it's going to be ugly.

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Speaker 16: There's going to be things very ugly.

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Speaker 2: Because those comments were racist and very offensive, and I

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Speaker 2: you know, if I'd have made those comments, and I

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: can't imagine I'd be working. So it's in one of

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Speaker 2: those situations where it's it's someone had an agenda here,

1230
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Speaker 2: and so if this comes out in Discovery. Any thoughts

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01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: on Sean mcvay's call Thursday night.

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Speaker 19: You know, Sean, sometimes I don't get paid the big

1233
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 19: bucks to make those decisions. I'm conservative. I would have

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 19: went for the tie, But every once in a while

1235
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Speaker 19: it seems like they McVeigh gets too cute for his

1236
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 19: own bridges. I don't know if he's overconfident sometimes, but

1237
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Speaker 19: you know what, fifty to fifty on that one, that's

1238
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 19: a tough call to make. I'm glad I didn't have

1239
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 19: to make it because he's now you know, he's paying

1240
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 19: for it, isn't he.

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: He's beaten himself up. Thanks a lot for checking in

1242
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: a lot of good first time callers tonight. I appreciate

1243
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: everybody weighing in. Steve from Kansas City most decidedly not

1244
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: the first time caller.

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 9: Take it away, Steve, Hey, Bernie has it going, buddy,

1246
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 9: All right, man, go ahead, you know.

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Speaker 20: I mean, this has been a huge news story with

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Speaker 20: the w NBA commissioner getting thrown under the bus by

1249
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Speaker 20: our own players.

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Speaker 9: And this was predicted a long time ago by by

1251
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 9: Skip Bayless that said there's going to be a mutiny

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01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 9: against against their own league.

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Speaker 8: Now, the.

1254
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 9: Players do have a federal right to a safe working environment.

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 9: What's going on here, I think is that they are

1256
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 9: they have obvious phasings against the rookie players. I mean,

1257
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 9: it's in controversial evidence. All it's going to take is

1258
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 9: one player to federally sue them and and the whole

1259
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 9: league may go down. I mean, they all just gonna

1260
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 9: take this.

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Speaker 2: What I don't want to do, you're, you're, you're, you know,

1262
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: you've got some interesting angles. Usually what I don't want

1263
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: to do tonight is great problems that don't exist yet

1264
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: and try to solve those. I want to get your

1265
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: thoughts on the real problem here, short and sweet. If

1266
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: they don't get a deal done, CBA by the deadline.

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Speaker 2: Is this league sustainable?

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 9: Well, my thought is it wasn't sustainable to begin with

1269
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 9: without Caitlin. You know there, it doesn't. I don't trust

1270
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 9: the league. I don't trust the league as this constructed

1271
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 9: the way it is now that they're going to.

1272
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 8: Be able to fix it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is always the last. The commissioner says, well,

1274
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 9: I've got a new competition committee that I'm going to.

1275
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 10: Save the league.

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't believe that's going to do anything.

1277
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's the bottom line. Is the bottom line,

1278
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: Steve is, is you feel this this league's head headed

1279
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: in the wrong, a collision course with nowhere fair.

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Speaker 9: I feel that we need Adam Silver or some or

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 9: some other entity to step in to save them.

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Speaker 2: Well, they the the NBA has been subsidizing him since

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Speaker 2: last century. So all right, real quickly on John Gruden, Steve,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on him?

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Speaker 9: I propose that John Gruden become the head coach of

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 9: the North Carolina tar Heels effective immediately?

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? All right, little little comic relief,

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: and real quickly on Sean McVay. The play didn't work,

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: but I give him credit for trying it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't have a take on Tom, but my

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01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 9: wild card is the super Bowl halftime.

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Speaker 10: I think we need to say we're gonna save the

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 10: w n b A.

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01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 9: Let's save the super Bowl halftime and get some get

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 9: some more marketable, marketable people in the entertaining entertainment field

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 9: to h to perform at the football game. Think the

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 9: the NFL is really going downhill, and I think we

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 9: need to we need to get me fix that once

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Speaker 9: we fix the.

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Speaker 7: W n b A.

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Speaker 2: Take care Bert, Thanks so much, Steve. I'm guessing I'm

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 2: not that smart. I'm guessing Steve is not a bad

1303
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,440
Speaker 2: Bunny fan. Poppy, it's anyego. What's up, Poppy? Hey, well Poppy,

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: go ahead.

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 7: Hey Bernie.

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 21: Yeah, Well, you know about w n B A. We really,

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 21: we really love them, and uh, I mean hopefully they

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01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 21: come back next to because we really love them, man,

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 21: and they better think right before they do a decision

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 21: or else.

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: You know, I just have consequences. Any thoughts on John Gruden, Yeah, on.

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 21: John grudin Chucky? Actually I love Chucky, you know, and

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 21: uh actually I think like he deserves to come back

1314
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 21: and get another opportunity. Look at Bryan Flores, But you

1315
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 21: know he's in the loss. I think currently's doing the

1316
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 21: loss of and he's with the Vikings, and the Vikings

1317
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 21: are looking pretty good. They're going to be playing the

1318
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 21: Brown right in London. So I think Chuck as you

1319
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 21: deserve another chance. And I and I threw my conspiracy theory. Yeah,

1320
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 21: someone went out there to attack them and humiliate them,

1321
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 21: and there's a backstort like like it seems like someone

1322
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 21: wanted to do something to get revenge on Chucky. Now

1323
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 21: Chuck is going to get revenge on them, and you know,

1324
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 21: I'm glad that.

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01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 7: He's trying to.

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 9: He's Inspector Gruden.

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 21: And I really want to know who went after him

1328
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 21: so he could hopefully come back and coach again in

1329
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 21: the NFL like he deserves. And what's the third one?

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 7: Burnie?

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: Just real quickly, Sean McVay went forward on fourth and one.

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01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: He took a lot of heat, just real quickly Toppy go.

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Speaker 21: Ahead, Okay, Yeah, And Sean McVay like, you know, it

1334
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 21: is what it is, and he's gonna learn, Like what

1335
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 21: would I have done? I cut in my head, I

1336
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 21: probably would have gone for the type. But as long

1337
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 21: as he learns his experience and his rams get better decision.

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 21: That's all that matters, you know, And I'm glad he

1339
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 21: took responsibility like a man and he said he made

1340
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 21: a mistake and learned from them.

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: Hey, Poppy, appreciate you man. Sorry about your padres. Thanks

1342
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: for checking in. We're going to continue. Paul in North Carolina,

1343
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: Rick Louisiana. You'll be up next. Tank Tight. I don't

1344
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: remind everybody with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us

1345
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,160
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1347
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1350
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,559
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1351
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: so we'll always pop up at the top of the screen.

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: When the midnight hour continues. Paul and Rick from Louisiana

1353
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: will be up next. I want to read an interesting

1354
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: tweet quickly from Curtis Erhard says Bernie with the Gruden

1355
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: thing and feels like what he said is getting lost

1356
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: in the sauce. He said it, it's proven, so all

1357
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: he can do at this point is take people down

1358
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: with him. He can't quote clear his name while he

1359
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: can do his take others with him. Kind Of an

1360
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: interesting viewpoint because if you saw in print with a

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: lot of us saw in print, oh man, oh man. Really,

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fraddlewar Kemy lyon from the Las Vegas Fox

1363
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

1364
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. How we're back

1365
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. The Men

1366
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: at Hour keeps rolling on. Quick tweet from Don the

1367
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: Tennis Donald little comedy. You can kill two birds with

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: one stone. Solve WNBA problem and the NFL Gruden have

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01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: John Gruden become the WNBA commissioner. There you go, little levity,

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 2: Little little levity. On a Sunday morning, Paul North Carolina

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01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: joined us as we resume the Men at Our. Paul,

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01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: thanks for hanging on. How are you hey?

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 20: Good morning, Bernie. Hey, let's not jump in your compet

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 20: right away. Big big difference between the work stoppages of

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 20: the sports you brought up versus WNBA. Of course, the

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 20: other sports. The outletes are making tens and tens of

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01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 20: millions of dollars and the public has zero sympathies for

1378
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 20: these work stoppages versus what WNBA salaries are. Bernie, I

1379
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 20: manage a restaurant by a two million dollars a year restaurant.

1380
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 20: I make more a year salary wise than Caitlin Clark.

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: So there is a well, okay, hold on, hold that thought.

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: Stand line Paul real quickly. Because the reason I invoked

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: the prior workstoppage just from the various leagues is though

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: even though they were established and even though they had history,

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: they suffered with their work stoppage and they able to

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: bear the brunt of it. And my point is could

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: the w NBA be strong enough to bear the brunt

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: of a work stoppage? That's really the point I'm trying

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: to get people way.

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 20: In on yes, yes, Bernie, and yes Bernie. And I'll

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 20: tell you why, because I think the public perception that

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 20: hurts these other sports is it's greed. When if there's

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 20: a WNBA workstopics, I don't think the public is going

1394
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 20: to perceive it as players being greedy.

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 10: This isn't, This isn't.

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna perceive them as being stupid. And

1397
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: you're a business owner, and you know what, it's like

1398
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: to have to make payroll found nine forty one taxes,

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: So I tip my cap to you. But sure, I

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01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: think the w NBA, if you line up any league,

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 2: is the least popular league in the history of mankind. Continue,

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: you got the last word.

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 20: Go ahead historically, Bernie, maybe, but the women's basketball is exploding.

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 20: WNBA has that a five new franchises. Look at the

1405
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 20: growth of women's basketball collegiately like there are marketable stars.

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 20: I think workstopp that is going to bring shed light

1407
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 20: on the on the difference between the benefits and the

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01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 20: salaries of men's game versus women's game. But the w

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 20: NBA sent commercially until a year ago, so I don't think.

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01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 20: I think the workstopp is going to bring more light

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01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 20: to the plate of the w NBA players versus the

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 20: greed of big players making tens and tens of millions

1413
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 20: of dollars in other stories.

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01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: I accept your premise. It's an interesting angle and I

1415
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to share it. Any thoughts

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01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: on the John Gruden.

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 20: Debacle, Yeah, I mean this, and Bernie gets your popcorn ready.

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 20: John Gruden has more money than he knows what to

1419
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 20: do with. He has no interest in settling. He has

1420
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 20: the NFL. He has the NFL by the cahoons and

1421
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 20: then less you mentioned a few minutes ago, you don't

1422
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 20: see John Gruden coaching again unless if they come to

1423
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 20: him with an opportunity to coach, and this kind of

1424
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 20: quietly goes away. But if that opportunity is not there,

1425
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 20: I think John Gruden has the opportunity to ride this

1426
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 20: out distance and it is going to be a horrible

1427
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 20: result for the NFL if it does go to distance.

1428
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 20: So but the money Gruden has. Get your popcorn ready,

1429
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 20: We're in for a.

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Shame, Paul, excellent, excellent call. Is this your first time

1431
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: checking into my show?

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 20: No, Bernie, I've been in a couple of times, and

1433
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 20: real quick just won with the Sean McVay got.

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: A click, okay, sure, go ahead.

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 20: So there was three minutes and forty one seconds ago

1436
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 20: and San Francisco had to time out when McVeigh went

1437
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 20: for unfourked down, So going for the tie the average

1438
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 20: the average field position, I want to kick off this

1439
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 20: and then thirty five. So if you would have kicked

1440
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 20: the field goal and tied it, San Francisco had gotten

1441
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 20: the ball on the thirty five with three and a

1442
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 20: half minutes the only timeout that San Francisco were going

1443
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 20: down the field and won the game. I think McVeigh

1444
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 20: would have been more excoriated for kicking the tie than.

1445
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 10: He would up going for it.

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: Three excellent points. You nailed it, Paul, excellent, my friend.

1447
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for checking in. I you know, I appreciate that

1448
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: people like John Gruden. I just want to put this

1449
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 2: on the record because I deal in facts. When the

1450
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 2: NFL released those series of emails back in twenty twenty one,

1451
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: they included homophobe, but racist, misogynistic messages while he was

1452
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: working for ESPN as a Monday night football analyst. I

1453
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: can't spend that in any positive way. Rick, bring us

1454
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: home tonight. Rick in Louisiana will wrap it up on

1455
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: the midnight hour, looking forward to here. What you got

1456
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: to say?

1457
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 11: Rick?

1458
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 10: All right? How you doing?

1459
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: Bernie good Man.

1460
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 8: Good good, Thanks for taking my call.

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01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 7: One.

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 8: As far as the WNBA, in my opinion, I think

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 8: it depends on who wants the lead to stay open,

1464
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 8: even though it may need to, you know, business wise

1465
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 8: and mathematically, you know, it may be that it's losing money.

1466
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 8: But if there's certain people who want it to continue,

1467
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: they can make it happen. So I think it just

1468
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 8: depends on who wants it to stay.

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 2: Well, that's an excellent point. It looks like the NBA

1470
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: wants it to The question is how much are they

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: willing to pay them to keep it open. No one's

1472
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: threatening to shut down the league yet. But Rick, here's

1473
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: the situation. They want more money based on the car

1474
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: when this new TV contract and there's no evidence that

1475
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: they're going to make money in the future. That's all.

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: That's all we're dealing with here.

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 8: Continue on, Rick, right, right, But I'd like I say,

1478
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 8: I just think that sometimes when you have, you know,

1479
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 8: the want that's asking for this, but you know they

1480
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,520
Speaker 8: can't afford it, then they just will have to compromise

1481
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 8: and take maybe just a small increase in pay even

1482
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,959
Speaker 8: though it's still not making money.

1483
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: And maybe there will be maybe they will may be

1484
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: cooler has failed. Go ahead, go ahead, Rick.

1485
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 8: Okay, the next one. As far as Gruden, I know

1486
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 8: you said that he probably won't ever coach in the

1487
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 8: NBA or I mean NBA NFL anytime soon. But I

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 8: also think if there is a college team that's considering

1489
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 8: him after the fact, I think that parents and the

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01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 8: children that are going to be under him should get

1491
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 8: a should be you know, made aware of the comments

1492
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 8: that he made. Those emails should be made made public

1493
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 8: to them so that they know what they're getting into

1494
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 8: before they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can be sure that would happen.

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Speaker 2: As I've always said, it'd be a tough press conference

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Speaker 2: to sell man. Go ahead, Rick, anything with Sean McVay.

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Speaker 8: Yes. One of the things I don't always agree with

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01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 8: is analytics. I think sometimes they use the analytics as

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 8: an excuse to take a risk, but they throw away

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 8: common sense. And what I've seen a lot of times

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 8: is a team that can be on the road, they

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 8: can do the you know, they may have a fourth

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01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 8: and one, they're playing ketchup or whatever, and then they

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01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 8: go for it when they could have taken points for

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 8: a field goal. And I think sometimes you just need

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 8: to take the points. I'm always a firm believer of

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01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 8: the point.

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Speaker 10: And you know, you.

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Speaker 8: Take the risk, that's fine. You have analytics, analytics to

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 8: back you. But in my opinion, for the most part,

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 8: if you play up, if you on the road, take

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01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 8: the points, you know, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Rick. I gotta thank you, Rick, and I got to

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: agree with you. I did what over one hundred and

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: sixty Detroit Lions pre and postgame shows. The first points

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: in the game are the hardest. And the thing about analytics,

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01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: I get it they have their place, but I think

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: analytics should be a guideline, not an inflexible anchor. So

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01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: excellent calls tonight. I appreciate everybody weighing in. I can

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: tell you that the drama is only can continue to

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,879
Speaker 2: intensify with the w NBA and the FEASTA. Collier canceled

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01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: the meeting with the commissioner and now the commissioners denying

1524
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: that she made certain remarks about Caitlin Clark. There have

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: been even prior players. I believe Stacey Dale's a very

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01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: respective reporter weighed in. She played in the league, and

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01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 2: she said she did an event a few years ago

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: and WNBA didn't even help or recognize or never heard

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: from the commissioner. So angele Berk's kind of backtracking. And

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: somebody said, where's Adam Silver in this? And I agree,

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: war is Adam Silver in this? Meanwhile, John Gruden has

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: been trying to take his case against the NFL to

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: the court system for many years, and this past week

1534
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: he got a major boost because the Nevada Supreme Court

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: ruled in their decision that Grudin did not have to

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: take US case through arbitration within the NFL. Instead, he

1537
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: can take US case to the normal court system. That's

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01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: big because in the discovery process, a lot of stuff

1539
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 2: is going to be made public that's going to embarrass

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I believe. I believe the mbil's

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01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL is trying to avoid that. Whereas if

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: it had gone to Roger Goodell's arbitration, which some have

1543
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: referred to some have referred to as a canerewcord because

1544
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: he's in charge, I don't know, it would have been

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01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: perhaps quashed. So these are stories we're going to be following.

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 2: These have legs. Whenever there's news, we may or may

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 2: not revisit him again. As long as there's news and

1548
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: there's something specific to report coming up, we're gonna stay

1549
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: with basketball. Mark Medeena, Medina Magic Our NBA. Fox Sports

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: Radio Guru joins us. Keep it locked Bernie Frattles Show,

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01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio's right?

1553
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: You heard the man. Bernie Frattles Show keeps rolling right along.

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01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle. We come to your line

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

1556
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: Take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

1557
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: five hours and twenty nine minutes away from more NFL

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: in London. Another huge thanks to all the men at

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01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: hour callers who took the time to call. And we'll

1560
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: get to some more tweets in a minute. But you

1561
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: know what, you loved me. You can't live without three

1562
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: simple words. It's that time. Mark Medina Medina Magic are

1563
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA guru. You hear him every Saturday

1564
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: night heading into Sunday morning on the Bernie Frattle Show.

1565
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: And the NBA is upon us. We've got pre season

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01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: games and soon we'll have regular season games. But Mark,

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: I want to switch gears and do something I've never done.

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01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: I really would like you to weigh in on this

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01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: w NBA tet of tech that's coming to a head

1570
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 2: because the CBA expires October thirty. First and last time

1571
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: there was this kind of rhetoric was three and David

1572
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Stern basically said, if you walk out, we will just

1573
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: shut the league down. Now we're not at that point

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01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: this time, but it's very contentious. What are your thoughts

1575
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: is the NBA continues to subsidize this league, and Mark,

1576
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: here's the real question. I want to ask you, if

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 2: there was a work stoppage, does this league no longer sustainable?

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 22: Well, that's the ultimate thing, because for a while the

1579
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 22: league wasn't sustainable and finally they turned a corner and

1580
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 22: found that tipping point where women's fast fall is becoming

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01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 22: more popular. A lot of it because of Caitlin Clark,

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01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 22: but there's also a lot of other star plus. So

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 22: I don't want to say that the league would collapse

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01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 22: if a work stoppage would happen, but that snowball effect

1585
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 22: of momentum, of all the growth of that has been

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01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 22: created the last few years would come to a halt here.

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 22: And you know you mentioned the WNBA and the NBA.

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01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 22: I do want I want to be surprised if the

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01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 22: NBA ultimately gets involved because there are a lot of

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 22: NBA teams that subsidize those teams. And I think that

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01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 22: one thing that we have to keep in mind is

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 22: that you know, this isn't the first time, won't be

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01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 22: the last time that players get upset with a commissioner,

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 22: And when it comes to collective bargaining. You know, the

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01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 22: league office is at odds of the players' union, but

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01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 22: historically speaking with the NBA, even when it was David

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01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 22: Stern and now Adam Silver, they recognize that whether you

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01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 22: agree with it or not, it's always about the players,

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01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 22: and so they can have you know, they're back and

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Speaker 22: forth and their antagonism with the union lawyers and everything else,

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 22: but they know that the players are the golden Jews.

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 22: So you know, Katy Engelberg and the fisha Collier, only

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 22: they will truly know exactly what was said and how

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01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,839
Speaker 22: it was said. But you can't get into a public

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 22: spot with a player because they're the ones that drives

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 22: the popularity to the league.

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01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: Well, you're not wrong with the cat's already out of

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01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: the bag and you braise it a good issue. I mean,

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01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 2: going back to the days of Pete Rosel and certainly

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: my Entreander radio was a ninety four baseball strike and

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: don fear they wanted to hang him in effigy, right

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01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,919
Speaker 2: or not down fear the commissioner, Bud Seilage for allowing

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: this to happen. Even George Steinmender said in nineteen eighty one,

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01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: if buikuon were alive today, we never would have a strike,

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 2: and of course Bowekoon was very much alive. We get

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: that part of it. But if you have a situation

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: where this league hasn't made money for two decades and

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: yet they want more, and the way that the public

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01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: optics and the way this league has been portrayed, there's

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01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: never any good news on the floor. It's always this

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01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: back and forth diatribe pick your day, and now it's

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01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: heightened to a different level. That's why I ask, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have much public support. Mark, you

1624
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: got the last word on this.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely been a lot of soap

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01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 22: opera news this last year or so with the WNBA,

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 22: But I think that you know, there is a lot

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 22: of interest in the WNBA the same way that the

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01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 22: NBA is that the competition is good, the players are

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01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 22: transcending stars. Yeah, there's a lot of soap operantics and

1631
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 22: physicality with each other and antagonism back and forth, but

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,480
Speaker 22: I would say that actually helps make the league more interesting.

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 22: So I'm with you that when it comes to collective

1634
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 22: bargain walkouts, that's never good for business, but I would

1635
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 22: argue everything else is because it gets people in tune.

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 22: You have people that are devout, you know, followers because

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01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 22: of the game, and then you have the casuals, and

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01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 22: then they have ones that hate watch or criticize you know what.

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01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 22: That gives a lot of things to talk about in

1640
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 22: the league. And it's the old saying any publicity is

1641
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,440
Speaker 22: good publicity.

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: Again, you're not wrong. The question is the budget and

1643
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,520
Speaker 2: what can you afford to pay the players and that

1644
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: will let them. Do you think they get a deep mark?

1645
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: Do you think they get a deal to cooler heads

1646
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 2: ultimately prevail? Where does this end up? I don't thin

1647
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: they're going to get a deal by Halloween. I don't.

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01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: But what does this ultimately end up in your view?

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01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 22: Yeah, I can't tell you exactly chapter verse only because

1650
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 22: I'm not following it like it.

1651
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 10: Would be with the NBA.

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01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 22: But if there is a work stoppage, frankly, I don't

1653
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 22: think it's going to take long for them to resolve,

1654
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 22: you know, for two reasons. One, I think the league

1655
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 22: is very well aware that they could really do itself

1656
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 22: some serious financial damage the longer it holds out, And

1657
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 22: they don't have the same stomach as NBA owners would

1658
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 22: have had in these previous work stoppages, and the old

1659
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 22: adage with players is that they only have a certain

1660
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 22: shelf life, and even for people who are more business

1661
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 22: savvy and have been good savers, these are your prime

1662
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 22: earning years. And so I think with that there might

1663
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 22: be a work stoppage, but I don't think it's going

1664
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 22: to drag that long because of the stakes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, let's leave it there. Let's move on to

1666
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: more pertinent subjects like you know, the James Gang. Let's

1667
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 2: start with the James Gang. Brownie and Lebron Brownie won

1668
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: for twelve the other night from the floor. But if

1669
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm being fair and honest, he can play little defense.

1670
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts is he is he rounding out

1671
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: as a defensive player?

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 22: Yeah, he is rounding out defensive player. And I think,

1673
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 22: ironically enough, JJ Reddick has observed that he's actually made

1674
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,520
Speaker 22: more progress with his offense than his defense. One defense

1675
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 22: was supposed to be his calling card, and so I

1676
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 22: think JJ's message to Brownie is that he obviously wants

1677
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 22: to see growth, but you know, there's one thing to

1678
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 22: show offensive growth in the individual workouts or in practice setting.

1679
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 22: But Scott A translating five on five has to translate

1680
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 22: in the game. Obviously, this preseason opener, he did not

1681
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 22: shoot the ball well one to twelve overall, one of

1682
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 22: eight from three. He was aggressive getting in the basket

1683
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 22: when five to six from the free throw line. But

1684
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 22: Bronnie afterwards was pretty even keel. He said he liked

1685
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 22: the shot selection. He felt it was more of a

1686
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 22: product of his legs still not being fully underneath him

1687
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 22: because of these conditioning heavy practices. But I think bottom

1688
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 22: line burning here is in all seriousness, we would like

1689
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 22: to make jokes about Bronnie, but he is showing improvement.

1690
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 22: But I don't think he's going to be a major

1691
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 22: part of the rotation. He's going to be a nine

1692
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 22: to ten, eleven or twelfth guy. I think it was

1693
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 22: very telling when I asked JJ Reddick after practice the

1694
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 22: other day, you know, how is he evaluating the guard rotation.

1695
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 22: He didn't get into specifics on his criteria Byon's health,

1696
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 22: but he named names. He rattled off the guys that

1697
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 22: are going to be getting played time in the back court.

1698
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 22: Luca Dodgers, Austin Reeves, Marcus Smart Gave, Vincent, Jake Klauravia

1699
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 22: gets who are the guys he left out, brought in

1700
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 22: James and Dalton connection. I think that that'll, you know,

1701
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 22: stay true through most of the season.

1702
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: Talking about Mark Medina Dina Magic. You hear him every

1703
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Saturday night and Sunday morning here on the Bernie Frattle Show.

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: Now I say to someone, tongue in cheek, we know

1705
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Lebron can be a bit of a pain in the butt.

1706
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: Now he's got a pain in his butt.

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 22: Send your server tonight.

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01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: Hey, don't forget to try to semi boneless spaghetti. I'm

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01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: here all week. In all seriousness, He's got a little

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01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: nerve issue in his posterior. That's a weight bearing injury. Now,

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: when you hear nerves, that can be serious. But I

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01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: don't want to cast this version. What's going on is

1713
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 2: it's just a bunch of michigan Os and we'll just

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: wait till the season starts. At what's really going on here?

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01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Because he is almost sixty three years old.

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01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 22: Now yeah, I mean you subtracked up by twenty three,

1717
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 22: but he's still old an NBA years at forty years old.

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01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 22: He's going to be forty one December thirtieth. I don't

1719
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 22: think that they're manufacturing injuries by this time of age,

1720
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 22: everything aches, But yeah, he's dealing with some nerve and

1721
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 22: as you know what now, I think here's what's telling

1722
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 22: the la JJ Redick on one hand is saying, yes, he

1723
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 22: expects him to be ready for opening night. He does

1724
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 22: have a hope that he'll play at some point in preseason,

1725
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 22: but he didn't know when that would be. I thought

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01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 22: he was a little cagy before the game, expressing some

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01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 22: optimism that he could I quote, sort of become a

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01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 22: full participant. And I thought that was telling, because you're

1729
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 22: either going to become a full participant or you're not.

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01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 22: And here's the reality. He's not playing Sunday against the

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 22: Golden State Warriors. Now there's Luka Doncic. Those reasons more

1732
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 22: had to do with Luca played a lot of EuroBasket.

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01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 22: They're trying to think ahead here or not tax them

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01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 22: too much. But with Lebron, I think the bigger thing

1735
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 22: is he's forty years old to twenty third seasons could

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01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 22: be his last, and they're trying to be very, very

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01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 22: careful so that you know, if he has father time

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01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 22: knocking on his door this season, it's not because of

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01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 22: him playing too many preseason minutes.

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Of course, and I know Luca's going to stay out

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01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 2: a couple of games too, which makes sense. Let's talk

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01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: about the other team in Los Angeles because I'm really

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01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: actually very much looking forward to this season, Mark because

1744
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 2: the logjam in the West. You got to give some

1745
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: respect to the Clippers, and always say this every year.

1746
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: I know they lose Norman Paul coming off the best

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01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: season in his career, but you pick up Chris Paul,

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez, Bradley Beal, John Collins. On paper, they look

1749
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: like they're pretty good to be, maybe even better than Lakers.

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:43,839
Speaker 2: Am I am I crazy?

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01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 22: No, I think you're on the sewing. But here's the

1752
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 22: key thing about the Clippers on paper, they always look good.

1753
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 22: In reality sometimes a different story. Look, I think from

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01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 22: a basketball standpoint, the fit should be good. Kawhi Leonard

1755
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 22: has shown when healthy he's one of the best player

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01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 22: of the NBA. The James Harden's credit, he has been

1757
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 22: willing to adjust his game. Chris Paul has shown in

1758
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 22: recent seasons he's willing to come off the bench. That's

1759
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 22: going to be the same thing. Bradley Beal, Yes, it

1760
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 22: was an adjustment with the Phoenix Suns, but you know

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01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 22: his agent Mark Bartleson told me over the offseason that

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01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 22: you know, it's not about who's starting, coming off the bench,

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01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 22: how many minutes. It's about his ability to make an

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01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 22: impact right away, and he has an ability to do that.

1765
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 22: But I think the reality is this, it's an old

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01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 22: roster and with that you almost have to expect that

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01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 22: there's going to be injuries that are going to have

1768
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 22: to deal with, whether it's Kawhi Harden, Chris Paul Beal,

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 22: maybe all of the above. Yes, they have a lot

1770
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 22: of depth of EACHA. Zoubots is becoming a very good center,

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01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 22: and outside of Joel Embiid, Nikole Jokic and Victor Wan Binyama,

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01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,480
Speaker 22: maybe he could be considered fourth. He's he's been developing

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01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 22: that great as a as a score in the pick

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01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 22: and roll, in the post, great defender, great lob threat,

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01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 22: great rotator. But it's always health and how fragile that

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01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 22: is in Clipperland. So I got my arms crossed from

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01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 22: now until the end of the season because of the.

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Speaker 2: Well said I can't disagree with anything you said real

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01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: quickly as we prove through the West, because I think

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Speaker 2: that's the balance of power. A shame the Houston Rockets

1781
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: won't have Fred van Vliet, but they do have Kevin Durant,

1782
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Speaker 2: and I expect Dorian Finnish Smith to make a real contribution,

1783
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: as well as Clint Capella. So when I look on balance,

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01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 2: I gotta believe the Rockets are. They were good last year,

1785
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 2: but they're even better this year. Do you agree with that?

1786
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Speaker 22: I do agree with that, but that Fred van vleet

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01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 22: absence is huge, steady locker room guy, great point guard, fights,

1788
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 22: he defender. They got better because they got Kevin Durant.

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01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 22: When on the court, he's still efficient, one of the

1790
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 22: best scores ever in the history of the game. And

1791
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 22: yes there's questions about his durability for the last six

1792
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 22: years ever since injuring his achilles, but went on the court,

1793
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,879
Speaker 22: he's very lethal. He's a fishing team guy. Aman Thompson

1794
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,879
Speaker 22: is becoming one of the best young two way players

1795
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 22: in the game, and I think that his role is

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01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 22: going to increase some point guard responsibilities because f Van

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01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 22: Vleet's out. But when I look at them, I think

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01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 22: that their third best in the West. The Denver Nuggets

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01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 22: and the Oklahoma City Thunder are just a whole different stress.

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Speaker 22: The Thunder won the championship, they have their same quarterback,

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01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 22: they're all pretty young. With the Denver Nuggets, they got better.

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01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 22: They got Cam Johnson, great two way player. Bruce Brown,

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Speaker 22: one of those great defenders on that championship team in

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01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 22: twenty twenty three, is back. And you know, I was

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Speaker 22: a Nuggets camp through this week. They're down in San Diego,

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01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 22: and there's just a feeling that there's a lot of

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01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 22: fresh energy for a few reasons. Obviously, Nikolejoki is still

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01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 22: in his prime. Jamal mur Urr, he's healthier, a lot

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01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 22: of guys in this past summer to start in formal camps,

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 22: and their roster depth is a lot better. And I

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01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 22: think that there's a lot of respect for David Adaman

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01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 22: for how he handled that, you know, the interim role

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01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 22: following the abrupt firing with Michael Malone. So it just

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01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 22: feels like there's a lot less tension than there was

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01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 22: at the end of last season, and there's a lot

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01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 22: of great depth roster continuity ahead of them. So I

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01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 22: would say flip a coin between the Thunder and the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: You really brought up some great points here, So I'm

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01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 2: not going to mention the Warriors. We'll throw them into

1820
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 2: the mix. We're up to five six teams now, the

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01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 2: last one I'm going to talk about that. I really

1822
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 2: want to see what these guys look like in April

1823
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 2: fingers cross they're all healthy, because you're not gonna have Kyrie,

1824
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: but you're gonna have Cooper Flagg, D'Angelo Russell, and hopefully

1825
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: a healthy Anthony Davis. I am really curious to see

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01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: what Dallas looks like when they run into shape February

1827
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 2: March April. I think they're going to be a real

1828
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 2: problem if they're healthy. Do you agree?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,719
Speaker 22: I do agree. Now the huge qualifier if they're healthy,

1831
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 22: I mean Kyrie Irving. He's going to miss at least

1832
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 22: half the season. Usually when players come off an aco injury,

1833
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 22: they're not the same player. They need to have that

1834
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 22: half season to try to shut off the rust, the conditioning,

1835
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 22: just getting used to their body. So I think we're

1836
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 22: going to see a diminished version of Kyrie this season.

1837
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 22: I think that he'll be what you saw pre injury

1838
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 22: next season. But they have a lot of good pieces.

1839
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 22: You mentioned Anthony Davis. I know everyone brings up his injuries.

1840
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 22: He obviously had an injury situation last year, but he's

1841
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 22: been a lot more durable than he was during his

1842
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 22: time with the Pelicans. With Cooper Flag, he's going to

1843
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 22: win a Rookie of the Year. I know that, like

1844
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 22: even for someone of his stature, there are going to

1845
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,520
Speaker 22: be ups and downs. But talking with trainer Mac mackenzie

1846
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 22: left me really encourage with how Cooper Flag's going to

1847
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 22: be the reason. He's a huge suit of the game.

1848
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 22: He's been watching so much film. It's been a point

1849
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 22: of emphasis with getting stronger, doing things to reduce the

1850
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 22: possibility of hitting the rookie wall or having major injuries.

1851
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 22: And he's going to link up with DURKNOVICKI. He already has,

1852
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 22: but throughout the season the plan is for him to

1853
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 22: do some workouts and also just kind of picked his

1854
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 22: brain on what it took to be such a great

1855
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 22: NBA star, had that patent to jump back, fall away jumper,

1856
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 22: as well as just be a potential face of the franchise,

1857
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 22: and Cooper Flag very might be that player. So yeah,

1858
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 22: I'm bullish on the Mavericks, but I want to put

1859
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 22: them in contending status because there are going to be

1860
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 22: question marks that will continue with them with their.

1861
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Speaker 2: Health absolutely well, one team lasting for me, Mark, I'll

1862
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: let you run. I'm very bearish on the Milwaukee Bucks.

1863
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about a team been underwhelming for

1864
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 2: two years. They want to take a total of three

1865
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: playoff games, got knocked out the first round both years.

1866
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: No more Damian Lillard, no more Brook Lopez, no more.

1867
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 10: Pat on It.

1868
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: I think this team goes off a cliff.

1869
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 22: Your thoughts, well, unless Gionathontatkupa demands a trade and leaves.

1870
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 22: It's hard for me to say, Okay, they fall off

1871
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 22: a cliff, but I don't look at them as an

1872
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 22: Eastern Conference contender. They'll still be in the mix because

1873
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 22: you have Jasnta Tokumpo. But yeah, they got Miles Turner.

1874
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 22: He's a great center. But outside those two players, I

1875
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 22: just don't really see the roster death. Yeah, Kyle Kusman

1876
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 22: is a great player, but he can be inconsistent. They

1877
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 22: really don't have the same kind of calling card that

1878
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 22: made them such a good team before. So in the East,

1879
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 22: I think it's all about Cleveland running a back because

1880
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 22: they have that core. They underachieved in the playoffs, so

1881
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 22: that second round exit to the New York Knicks, and

1882
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 22: that's going to be the nixt under to Mike Brown.

1883
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 22: They still have the same roster for the most part

1884
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 22: that they had under Tom Thibodeaux. But they did make

1885
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 22: some additions gain Jordan Clarkson, and he's a good secondary scorer.

1886
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 22: So I think it's those two teams in the red

1887
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 22: in the East. The rest of these isretty much a

1888
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 22: shell of themselves because of what we mentioned with Milwaukee,

1889
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 22: because Boston doesn't Jason Tatum this season, Indiana doesn't have

1890
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 22: Tyres Albern. I think the Orlando Magic could be a

1891
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 22: pretty dangerous playoff team because Paul ben Carroll is a

1892
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 22: great two way player that doesn't bane a free uh

1893
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 22: trade is huge because he's a great locker room guy,

1894
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 22: great defender, great shooter. But even though internally they do

1895
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 22: have optimism they can contend for a championship, I just

1896
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 22: think that the Cavaliers and the Knicks have too much

1897
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 22: more continuity than the Magic have at this point.

1898
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 2: Well, and the reason I said what I said about

1899
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: the Bucks, they won forty eight games last year. They

1900
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 2: had to win eight in a row to get the

1901
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 2: forty eight. They were better than five hundred on the

1902
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: road into prediction, and you hold me to it and

1903
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 2: hit me over they had with a sledgehammer when.

1904
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 22: Well, look, we want to say saying the same thing.

1905
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 22: I'm not projecting they're going to be committal, but pung balls.

1906
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 22: But might be, you know, another first round exit for

1907
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 22: the fourth consecutive year this time.

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01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 2: So they toy. I think there's gonna be two games

1909
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 2: over five hundred. That'll be it.

1910
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Speaker 22: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just hold me to that, Hold me to

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Speaker 2: that because that's how I feel. But we'll do it. Mark,

1913
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 2: great stuff. As always, the season is upon us. More news,

1914
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Speaker 2: more stories and all good stuff. And appreciate you.

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Speaker 22: Man, appreciate you. And let's not forget that brawny James breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that's why people tune in worldwide. Listeners

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Coming

1926
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Speaker 2: up at the bottom of the hour, we'll have fantasy files.

1927
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm going to share with you, you know,

1928
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Speaker 2: the Ravens. A lot of people had the Ravens and

1929
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I don't have either

1930
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Speaker 2: one of the Super Bowl and I didn't before the season,

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Speaker 2: but I'll share with some inconvenient truths about both teams now.

1932
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Speaker 2: Of the two, I think the Eagles are going to

1933
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Speaker 2: be back in the playoffs, maybe the Ravens too, but

1934
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Speaker 2: they ain't going to The Raves ain't going to the

1935
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Some inconvenient truths about both teams. I bet

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Speaker 2: you didn't know from a number standpoint. I'm Bernie Frattle.

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1944
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1945
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1946
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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. We are just five hours away now from

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Speaker 2: the Vikings and the Cleveland Browns for another London game.

1948
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Speaker 2: Dylan and Gabriel will be making his debut as a

1949
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Speaker 2: starter and coming up in a couple of minutes, we'll

1950
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 2: have the fantasy files for you. I want to look.

1951
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles are four and oh, yet they've been

1952
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,799
Speaker 2: out gained in every game this season. They're still figuring

1953
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 2: things out. I think A. J. Brown is unhappy. But

1954
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: they're four and oh. But here's an inconvenient truth. The

1955
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 2: Eagles offense in total yards per game, they rank thirtieth,

1956
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 2: only two hundred and fifty one yards a game, yards

1957
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: per play four point two. They ranked thirtieth pass yards

1958
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 2: per game one hundred and thirty eight. They ranked thirty

1959
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 2: first rushing yards per game. Remember they got Saquon Barkley

1960
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell, they ranked twenty ninth, only three point gay

1961
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Speaker 2: three point five yards per rush. And you know what

1962
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 2: they're They're facing a tough Denver team that's got seventy

1963
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Speaker 2: eight sacks in their first for their last twenty games.

1964
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: So I'm not seen the Eagles can't get back and

1965
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: make a deep run of the playoffs. But those numbers

1966
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 2: must hold up. The must not hold up. Let's put

1967
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 2: it that way. That's not sustainable, and neither is the

1968
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Ravens defense. Phillies offense is stuck in neutral. Well, the

1969
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: Ravens defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. Last in the NFL,

1970
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: and points per game allowed at thirty three, thirty first

1971
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. At passing yards per game allowed at

1972
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Speaker 2: two sixty five, they've allowed eighteen plays of more than

1973
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Speaker 2: twenty yards that's considered a big play. They ranked thirty

1974
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 2: first in the league. The Eagles do in terms of

1975
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 2: getting first downs per game, they ranked thirty first, oh,

1976
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 2: by the way. And sacks, well, they've been sacked a

1977
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 2: few times too. So the long and the short of

1978
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: it is this Ravens No I got that backwards. The

1979
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 2: Ravens have only got four sacks. That's thirtieth in the league.

1980
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 2: So much for that daunting defense. And they're all banged

1981
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 2: up Sunday. So for things to turn around, I'm not

1982
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 2: saying they can't, but don't tell me, show me. We

1983
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 2: go through this every year with people who want to

1984
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: convince this how good their team is or how good

1985
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 2: a certain player is the film Don't Lie. So Eagles,

1986
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 2: you face a tough Denver team in a few hours here,

1987
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: and the Ravens, well, you know they've got a team

1988
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 2: in Houston that's really scuffling. And look, yes, the Ravens

1989
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 2: are allowing thirty three points per game, but Houston their

1990
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 2: defense is only allowing twelve points per game. But Houston's

1991
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 2: defense offense is not great. And that's exactly why every

1992
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Speaker 2: time this week we bring you the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football

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Speaker 4: segment are one gone.

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Speaker 23: Welcome to Fantasy Files. I'm Brandon Deutsch. Let's get into

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Speaker 23: sid start suggestions for the week, and we're gonna start

1997
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Speaker 23: with somebody that I think should continue to perform at

1998
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 23: a very high level, and that is Trevion Henderson against

1999
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 23: the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills really have a tough

2000
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,520
Speaker 23: time against pass catching running backs. They've had that problem

2001
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Speaker 23: for years. It's continued to be a problem, and we're

2002
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 23: going to see Trevion Henderson, who's increased.

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Speaker 2: To snaps more and more each week.

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Speaker 23: Because of Vermandro Stevenson's fumbling go off again. He's he's

2005
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 23: going to get another touchdown. You in a touchdown a

2006
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 23: few weeks ago. I think this is the first game

2007
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 23: that he eclipses twenty fantasy points. I truly believe that,

2008
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 23: even if Antonio Gibson gets some snaps. Next, we have

2009
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 23: to sit Jerry Judy against Minnesota. Jerry Judy hasn't done

2010
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 23: anything all year. Dylan Gabriel is a rookie who's starting

2011
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Speaker 23: his first game. I don't think that Judy may even

2012
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,799
Speaker 23: get a catch in this one. I'm not even kidding

2013
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 23: about that. Like, this is going to be a brutal

2014
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 23: game if you, Jerry Judy, continue to sit him. He

2015
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 23: hasn't mignitted all year. Make sure to start Chris o'lave

2016
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 23: against the New York Giants. Love what o'lave has brought. Obviously,

2017
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Speaker 23: last week we started him, he threw a pick, so

2018
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 23: it was a little weird his fantasy point points at

2019
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 23: the end because he ended up I think with twelve

2020
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 23: or thirteen. He caught a touchdown, but he threw a pick,

2021
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 23: so that was minus two fantasy points on some weird

2022
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 23: trick play. Either way, he's still top in targets in

2023
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 23: the NFL, close to the top at least. He's going

2024
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 23: against the Giants defense that only looked good last week

2025
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 23: because both charters offensive linemen, their left and right tackle,

2026
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 23: we're out, and that's why they were able to get

2027
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 23: pressure on Justin and why they were able to win

2028
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 23: that football game. I've sid Kean Coleman against New England Patriots.

2029
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 23: Christian Gonzalez looked very good. He's back, he's healthy. Keon

2030
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 23: Coleman is going to have a tough assignment against him,

2031
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 23: and he's been inconsistent all year. I really don't like

2032
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 23: guys that are cryptocurrency players, and what I mean by

2033
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 23: that is DeVante Smith, Keon Coleman. AJ Brown's another one.

2034
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 23: You can look at Jalen Wattle as somebody like that.

2035
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 23: When Tyreek Hill plays what I mean by this some games,

2036
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Speaker 23: T Higgins some games twenty five Fantasy points, in others zero.

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Speaker 2: I hate playing those.

2038
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Speaker 1: Guys in a weekly basis.

2039
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Speaker 23: Coleman's kind of entering that range where he could fall

2040
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 23: out and get you thirty Fantasy points or he could

2041
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 23: get you about zero. So again, I'm out on him

2042
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 23: this week, and I'd start Rico Dowdle against Miami. Let's

2043
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 23: get to a running back there, tru Bah Hubbard is out,

2044
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,879
Speaker 23: so obviously you cannot play him. Rico Dowdell is his backup.

2045
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 23: Trevor Etn. Travis Etn, Junior's brother, is also a valid

2046
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 23: I guess in flex if you're in a fourteen or

2047
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 23: sixteen man league, although I would feel way more confident

2048
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 23: giving the start to Rico Dowdell this week against Miami.

2049
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 23: Miami's run defense is not good this year, so I

2050
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 23: like him against Miami, and I'd sitch just this Hill

2051
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 23: against Houston. Remember when Corderyl Patterson toward the end of

2052
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 23: his career was not great anymore. He had that crazy

2053
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 23: year and then all of a sudden everyone drafted him

2054
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 23: and he had one week of twenty five Fantasy points

2055
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 23: and didn't do anything the rest of the year. That

2056
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 23: is Justice Hill last week. Oh, should I play Justice

2057
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 23: Hill over Derek Henry? What are we talking talking about?

2058
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 23: It's Derek Henry versus Justice Hill. Sit Justice Hill against Houston.

2059
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 23: This is a Houston team that has an elite defense,

2060
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 23: top tier, and they'll be ahead the entire game because

2061
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 23: Lamar Jackson is not playing.

2062
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Start Rashad White versus Seattle.

2063
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 23: Love that matchup for him, even though Seattle's defensive line

2064
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 23: is very good. And why do I like that matchup? Well,

2065
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 23: you have to understand something. Bucky Irving is utilized in

2066
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 23: the passing game an enormous amount right on the Tampa

2067
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 23: Bay Buccaneers. Rashad White now fills that role. And we've

2068
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 23: seen Rashad White finishes the RB three just a few

2069
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 23: seasons ago, so I'm confident he can put up an

2070
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 23: extremely extremely productive fantasy day, especially catching the football, and

2071
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 23: if he gets a touchdown, that's icing on a cake.

2072
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 23: That's twenty plus fantasy points against the Seattle team that

2073
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 23: is really good. I still like Rashad White. This week,

2074
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 23: sit Ramondre Stevenson against Buffalo again. The fumbling machine we

2075
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 23: set him last week, we did well. We're sitting him again.

2076
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 23: Make sure you keep them on your bench. Same thing

2077
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 23: with Antonio Gibson and a start that I love after

2078
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 23: last week's breakout performance. What he marks against Baltimore. Gaint Baltimore,

2079
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 23: No Lamar Jackson. They should be up the entire game,

2080
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 23: which means they're going to run. And I don't really

2081
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 23: care about the snap percentage of Nick Chubb versus Woody

2082
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 23: Marks and even when Joe Mixon comes back. What I

2083
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 23: look at is guys that are efficient. What he Marx

2084
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 23: has that check and can catch passes at a high level.

2085
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 23: What he Mark's gonna do that better than Nick Chubb.

2086
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 23: Not saying he can do it better than Joe Mason,

2087
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,560
Speaker 23: but Joe Mixon isn't healthy, so wood he Marks is

2088
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 23: a lock it in start this week. I'd sit to

2089
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,799
Speaker 23: Cory Krossky Merritt versus the Chargers. Not a great showing

2090
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 23: for Bill, but it's really not his fault. He was

2091
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 23: pretty efficient. He didn't get many snaps. Chris Rodriguez got

2092
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 23: a lot of snaps. Now Jayson Daniels is back, I

2093
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 23: don't know if that's going to be smooth sailing against

2094
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 23: the Chargers defense that I think he's still very good.

2095
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 23: I would keep Bill on the bench and start David

2096
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 23: Montgomery against Cincinnati. This is the bounce back after last week.

2097
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 23: This is a two touchdown performance for Montgomery. I would

2098
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 23: feel super confident starting him and sitneing Isaiah Pacheco against

2099
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:49,959
Speaker 23: the Jaguars.

2100
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Don't like that at all for him.

2101
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 23: Make sure to start Jalen Wattall against Carolina without Tyreek Hill.

2102
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 23: Obviously he's going to get a boatload of Target's final

2103
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 23: set of the day, AJ Brown against Denver, the Certain Shadows,

2104
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 23: real guys, certan shut down receivers all of last season.

2105
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 23: He's done it again this year. He's gonna do it

2106
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 23: on s AJ Brown. Let me know what you guys think.

2107
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 23: You can find me at Brandones Deutsch on TikTok, BSD

2108
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 23: takes on x and of course Brandons Deutsch as well

2109
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 23: on Instagram. Back to the Bernie Fratto Show. I appreciate

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Speaker 23: you guys. Let's all win our matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I you know, full disclosure, I no longer participate.

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01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 2: I partake in fantasy, but I agree with Woody Marx.

2113
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: He's emerging as an every week starter. Houston is going

2114
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 2: up against the depleted Ravens defense. He had a Woody

2115
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Speaker 2: Marx had a breakout week last week when they beat

2116
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 2: the Titans. I know the Titans might be the worst

2117
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Speaker 2: team in the NFL. Nonetheless, Woody Marx helped the Texans

2118
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Speaker 2: beat the Titans, and I think he's looking to further

2119
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Speaker 2: establish himself as as a guy who's a regular fantasy option.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a larger role now and he had

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Speaker 2: a touchdown last week. He carried the ball seventh ten times.

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01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 2: I think even caught some balls, caught some passes. So

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01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 2: he's getting touches, he's scoring touchdowns, and he's gaining yards

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Speaker 2: on the ground. So just my two cents on the

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01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Woody Marks name and I'll leave it right there. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: we talked about Dylan Gabriel, Jerry Judy. Let's take a

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01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 2: quick look at that game in London. Coming up. I

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Speaker 2: am Bernie Frowdle. We are Company line from the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're

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01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios here in Las Vegas. Yes,

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01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 2: we will take you up to three am Pacific, six

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01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: am Eastern top of the ar. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: more NFL stuff to get to. The Eagles are doing it,

2136
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 2: but if they perfected the art of winning ugly, we'll

2137
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 2: take a look at it. You know, there's plenty of

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 2: new coaches that have joined the NFL ranks this year.

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Speaker 2: I think seven to be exact. Let's take a look

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 2: in this coaching care ofsel check in and give our

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01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: thoughts on some of the coaches making their debut. How

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01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 2: have they done so far this year in the NFL.

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01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: By the way, there's one league having no issues with

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01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: ratings at all. None. We're gonna get to that. We're

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01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 2: gonna give them their props, very well deserved props. And

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01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: before I get to the Browns game in a minute, here,

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01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: I thought you might like to know that the NFL.

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01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 2: I happen to be someone who likes these international games,

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01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: and living out here near the Left Coast, it kicks

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01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 2: off at six thirty am, fine with me, no complaints.

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01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 2: And the folks in the East who have to wait

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01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: for games to start at one o'clock and I lived

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01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 2: that time zone for seventeen years. I think they like

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01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: it too, nine to thirty. And what's interesting is the

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01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 2: NFL and their international slate of games. And by the way,

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01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: next up is going to be Australia. They're going to

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01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: play a game there. They are going to be introducing

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01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: it looks like sixteen international slate of games every season,

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01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 2: that's what I'm hearing. I don't know if it starts

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01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: next year, but think about it. When the NFL created

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01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football and it's been nineteen years now. It

2162
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 2: was basically a package of five games that didn't start

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: to like the round Thanksgiving. But half a decade later,

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01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football expanded to almost every week of the season.

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Speaker 2: And now what's interesting is and now the games are

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Speaker 2: on Amazon, and those Amazon games bringing a billion dollars

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01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 2: annually to the NFL, and they exclusively stream the games,

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Speaker 2: the primetime games on Thursday nights. So look at how

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01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: the evolution of Thursday Night Football has grown. We are

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01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: expecting the same exact thing for international football. International games. Okay,

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: you see them in London, you see them in Ireland,

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 2: you see them in Brazil, Germany, Mexico City, Australia being next.

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01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 2: So as the league began this season, the theory is

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Speaker 2: that the same way Thursday Night Football grew, international games

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01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 2: are going to grow. So this fall there will be

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01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: a record seven games, seven NFL games played outside the US,

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Speaker 2: which we've already had two. We're gonna have a third

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Speaker 2: later today at Friday night game in Brazil between the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs and Chargers to kick off the season about a

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01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 2: month ago. Of course, the United Kingdom will once again

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01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 2: host three games. I think two will be played at

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Speaker 2: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I went to London with my wife.

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01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 2: I toured that, got the Grand tour of the stadium,

2184
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: used my Fox input. It was fantastic. And you know

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01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: I went to Wimbley Stadium as well. Germany. He will

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01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 2: get another game in the NFL is going to make

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Speaker 2: its debut. It already did in Ireland. It'll make its

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01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 2: debut in Space. Now. The NFL had an option of

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01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 2: scheduling an eighth game overseas the stadium, but for somehow

2190
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 2: the plans to return to Mexico fell through. I think

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01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 2: it had more to do with renovations that are being

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01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 2: made at Aztec Stadium in Mexico City than anything else.

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01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 2: But think about that. That's pretty aggressive. As this game

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: continues to be growing internationally, So what's next. The international

2195
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 2: slate will likely be sixteen games. This is something Roger

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Speaker 2: Goodell and actually multiple influential team owners have been wanting

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01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 2: to do for a long time, many years. Arthur Blank,

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01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 2: the Falcons owner, was on the NFL network during training

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Speaker 2: camp in July and he said, yeah, that's very much

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01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 2: on the horizon, and that the NFL Spring meetings last March.

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01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Clark Hunt, the owner of the chief said the league

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01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 2: has a short term goal of getting to eight, which

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01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 2: would have happened this year, and down the road as

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01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 2: many as sixteen. And Goodell's been tiling the potential games

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01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 2: for a year. I'm talking about sixteen international games. He

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01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 2: told CNBC back before the summer. He thought expansion could

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01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 2: happen to get to sixteen games within five years.

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Speaker 19: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you're already playing five six different countries, I suppose

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01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 2: you could add a couple more in London Ireland. These

2211
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: games are packed and they're terrific. There's something about them.

2212
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: They got a kind of a cool aura about them.

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01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: The other international expansion is going to actually now also

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01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 2: probably pave the way. It's not imminent, but you know

2215
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 2: they're pushing for it. First, the NFL had fourteen games

2216
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 2: before that a thousand years ago before I was born.

2217
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 2: They had twelve, then they had fourteen, then sixteen, now seventeen.

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01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time before they add an

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01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: eighteenth regular season game. That's got to be collectively bargained.

2220
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 2: The current CBA runs through the twenty thirty season, so

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01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: that's a few years away, and the league can opt

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01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: out of its most current one hundred and ten billion

2223
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: dollar media right steal after the twenty twenty nine season

2224
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: and what they can try to do. I think they're

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01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 2: going to do that and try to sell a TV

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01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 2: package that's going to include its international schedule, which they

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01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: also believe. Remember the Thursday night schedule brings in a

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01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 2: billion annually. The international schedule is projected to also bring

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01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: in a billion dollars. So Roger Goodell's stated goal when

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01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 2: he became commissioner back in two thousand and six to

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 2: make the NFL a twenty five billion dollar annual league.

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01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 2: I think he was about halfway there, if not, if

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01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 2: not more so, Well, in what four hours and thirty

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: nine minutes, it'll kick off the one in three bounds Browns.

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01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: It's technically a home game for the Vikings. Well why not.

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Speaker 2: They've been there, They've been over across the pond for

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 2: a week. They were in Ireland last week and got

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01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 2: their butt handed to them. Didn't look good doing it.

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01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 2: But they'll be facing a Cleveland Browns team that's one

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Speaker 2: to three and they're turning to the key quarterback, Dylan Gabriel.

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01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 2: They are hoping he can somehow jump start this offense.

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01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: The Browns have the second worst offense in the league,

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01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: the only average fourteen points a game, and Dylan Gabriel

2244
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 2: will have the distinction of being the first ever quarterback

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01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 2: to make his inaugural start, as it were his first

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01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: start his debut in an international game. But from what

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01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm hearing, and there's a reason they drafted Dylan Gabriel

2248
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 2: in the third round, and I know people dogging him

2249
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: for his size on it. Did you see him play

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Speaker 2: at Oregon? Did you see him play at Oklahoma?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 2: Not exactly easy duty overseas when the Browns are a

2253
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 2: hot mess and Brian Flores and his defense will dial

2254
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 2: up multiple looks to confuse him. But if there's one

2255
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Speaker 2: thing that they say about Dylan Gabriel, he's prepared. He

2256
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 2: will be prepared. I think if you look at the

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01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 2: Browns and their game plan, if they take advantage of

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01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Gabriel's He's got better mobility than people give him credit for,

2259
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 2: and he's accurate on the run, So they use a

2260
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 2: lot of rollofs in RPOs to try to get some

2261
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 2: offense going. Jerry Judy complimented Dylan Gabriel this week. He

2262
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 2: said he really knows where to go with the ball.

2263
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 2: He knows what Kevin Stefanski wants to do within the

2264
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: framework of the offense. So he's not going to play

2265
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: playground football and run around and take six seconds to

2266
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 2: get rid of the ball like some people. All Right,

2267
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings, who I think are trying to glue this

2268
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 2: season back together. J. J. McCarthy may be on hold.

2269
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is capable, but you don't really know what

2270
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna get with him. The Vikings spent a week

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01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 2: in London. I think they have to figure out what

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01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 2: they're going to do with their offensive line. It's got

2273
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 2: injuries up and down, and it's a very concerning situation

2274
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 2: because the Browns have one of the best defensive fronts

2275
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 2: in the National Football So you don't know what the

2276
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 2: Vikings will put out there. But in a worst case scenario,

2277
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 2: the Vikings could be starting the third string center and

2278
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 2: their third string left guard and their number two right

2279
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 2: tackle against the defense that leads the NFL in pass

2280
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: rush win rate fifty six percent. They stopped the run

2281
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: pretty well too the Browns, but their offense not great.

2282
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 2: Seventeen or fewer points in nine straight games going back

2283
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 2: to last season. That's not a good streak. So you're

2284
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 2: hoping for you know, you're hoping for a good debut

2285
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 2: if you're a Browns fan out of Dylan Dylan Gabriel. Meanwhile,

2286
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: the Vikings and Jordan Mason. He's combined with Aaron Jones. Look,

2287
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 2: Jones is out actually, so they do get Jordan Addison back.

2288
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 2: Feels like a very low scoring game. I didn't play

2289
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 2: this game, but it feels like a very low scoring game.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we continue with the NFL and many other

2291
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: subjects on the Bernie Fraddle Show. Keep it lock. You're

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01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Dore, listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frawder Show

2295
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 2: cames rolling right along. My name is Bernie Freddle. We're

2296
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Speaker 2: come to the line from the Fox Sports Radio studios

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Take you up to three and

2298
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Speaker 2: Pacific six am Eastern, four hours and twenty nine minutes

2299
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Speaker 2: away from some more NFL football. Just to put a

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Speaker 2: cap around some unfinished business. We had a great, another

2301
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 2: spirited midnight hour and then everybody calls in. Some people

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Speaker 2: like to tweet. My man Fish faints and a tweet

2303
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 2: kind of covered all three subjects. He said, First, the

2304
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 2: WNBA better not shoot the golden goose. They only make

2305
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 2: money because they're subsidized by the NBA. Well, he's right,

2306
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 2: they're only subsidized by the NBA and they don't make money.

2307
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Speaker 2: But he's not wrong, Gruden. This is coming down the pike.

2308
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Speaker 2: This is gonna be something to see. If it's heard

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02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 2: in court, it'll be highly charged. He said. Grude's too

2310
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 2: smart not to have a trick or two up a sleeve.

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02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 2: He might so far he's winning in but it's pretty

2312
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 2: damning what he said, and he put it in print. Finally,

2313
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 2: Sean McVay is a genius. But taking that loss is

2314
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 2: as bad as it gets kicked the field goal stop

2315
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 2: Matt Jones with that d it should be easy. Well,

2316
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 2: nothing's easy in the NFL. But I appreciate the variance

2317
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Speaker 2: of opinions. I defended Sean McVay. If you missed the

2318
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 2: midnight Hour, I know he's beating himself up. He particularly

2319
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 2: in retrospect, not fond of the call. And you know

2320
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Speaker 2: how it is just like Pete Carrolyn's Super Bowl. Who

2321
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 2: wasn't super Bowl fifty? No, yeah, fifty. I think we

2322
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 2: all know about the play. Everybody thought Marshawn Lynch should

2323
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: have got the ball got picked off against the Patriots.

2324
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a Super Bowl forty nine. But here's the point.

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Speaker 2: If you're right, you're a genius. If you're wrong, you're

2326
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Speaker 2: the village idiot. Well somebody that some people think this

2327
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 2: guy's a village idiot, Nick Sirianni. But it is tenure.

2328
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 2: He started four and oh three times. And Nick Seriani

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02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 2: coaches the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles. They're twenty

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Speaker 2: and one in their last twenty one games, of course,

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Speaker 2: including their their big win over the Super Bowl Chiefs

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02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, and also including their win last

2333
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 2: week thirty one to twenty five over the Tampa Bay Bucks,

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Speaker 2: who were also undefeated on the time. I excuse me,

2335
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 2: also undefeated at the time. They're only blemish in that

2336
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 2: twenty one game. Street were three days before Christmas against

2337
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. They lost thirty six to thirty three.

2338
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 2: And let's not forget they started Kenny Pickett in that game. Okay,

2339
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: they started Kenny pickt Canny Pickett had a good game,

2340
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,160
Speaker 2: but they lost. Now the Eagles are one of two

2341
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 2: four to oh teams this season. Two teams left are undefeated,

2342
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills and the Eagles. But if you look

2343
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 2: at the stats, you may look at the Eagles and say,

2344
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 2: especially since they've been outgained in every game, hall the

2345
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 2: hell a they have four to zero. We football can

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02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 2: be situational and they find ways to win. Now, many

2347
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 2: many years ago, I got a sharp audience. You may

2348
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 2: remember the Texas Rangers had a manager by the name

2349
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,200
Speaker 2: of Doug Rader. I mean, this has taken you back

2350
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 2: into the eighties, and they were winning and winning, but

2351
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 2: no one knew how they were doing it. And of

2352
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 2: course they didn't win a World Series or anything like

2353
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 2: the Eagles won the Super Bowl. But Doug Rader says,

2354
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 2: we win ugly. We went ugly. But a win is

2355
02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 2: a win is a win. So stealing a line from

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Speaker 2: Doug Rader, are the Eagles merely winning ugly? Will you

2357
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Speaker 2: tell me? And then win over Tampa Bay last week

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Speaker 2: Nick Siriani's team. The Eagles led by three touchdowns in

2359
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:48,000
Speaker 2: the second quarter and eighteen points in the third quarter.

2360
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: It was thirty one to thirteen in the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts did not exactly break the bank that day,

2362
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty four for a buck thirty two touchdowns,

2363
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 2: didn't throw a pick, but he had a passer rating

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02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 2: of one to four point five. But he completed all

2365
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 2: those passes in the first half. He threw eight incompletions

2366
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 2: in the second half of the game. Hertz also ran

2367
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 2: the ball for sixty two yards, which was good Casequon

2368
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 2: Barkley only gained forty three yards. He did score a touchdown,

2369
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 2: put forty three yards on nineteen carries for Saquon Barkley.

2370
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:23,720
Speaker 2: That has you raised a little bit of an eyebrow,

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02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,880
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Meanwhile, Tampa Bay outgained the Eagles. He had

2372
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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy six yards. Philly had two hundred.

2373
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 2: That's a knemick in this man's NFL outgame by one

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02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six yards, and you still win. As

2375
02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 2: I said earlier, probably three or four times during the show,

2376
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Speaker 2: Nick Siriani's team has been outyarded in every game this season.

2377
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know. This isn't necessarily you can say

2378
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 2: the offense has been stuck in neutral But Dick Fangio,

2379
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 2: legendary defensive coordinator, you play complimentary football in Philadelphia. You

2380
02:04:56,560 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 2: win games, Okay, A win is a win is a win.

2381
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 2: And leave it to Saquon Barkley, the measured you know,

2382
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,520
Speaker 2: the voice of reason. He says, I don't care what

2383
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: it looks like. Just win, whether I rush for twenty

2384
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 2: yards or two hundred yards, whatever it takes. If the

2385
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 2: golore six to three or thirty six to four, we're

2386
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 2: going to be four and oh. Now if it was

2387
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,520
Speaker 2: thirty six to four, I gotta believe that'd be a

2388
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 2: new score of gami. But what do I know? Okay, Well,

2389
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 2: the only other four to oh team in the NFL's

2390
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 2: modern era to be gained in all four or four wins.

2391
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 2: You got to go back to twenty twelve, the Arizona Cardinals.

2392
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 2: They got away with that hot start until they didn't.

2393
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 2: They won one game the rest of the season and

2394
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:40,560
Speaker 2: finished five to eleven. Now, I am no way in

2395
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 2: hell predicting that's going to happen with the Eagles. But

2396
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 2: to keep winning at the rank, at the rate they

2397
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 2: are and be a short list for the Super Bowl,

2398
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 2: this you can't say this is sustainable. This really isn't sustainable.

2399
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 2: You know, Tampa Bay gave them everything they could handle.

2400
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 2: And they held them off. But this isn't the first

2401
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 2: game where the Eagles had had that situation, right. How

2402
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 2: about against the Rams, I think an earlier kick caller

2403
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 2: brought up. Jordan Davis blocks a kick, Josh Carty lines

2404
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 2: up for forty four yard field goal in Week three,

2405
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 2: you talk about a bad beat if you had the

2406
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:27,280
Speaker 2: Rams plus three and a half that day, kind of

2407
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 2: like I did, and a lot of professional gamblers I

2408
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 2: know in Vegas did that one hurt because I think

2409
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 2: at one point the Rams led like twenty three to

2410
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 2: nine anyway, or something like that. Anyway, the next thing

2411
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's twenty seven to twenty six Eagles, but

2412
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 2: the Rams are lining up to kick that forty four

2413
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 2: yard field goal. Had Cardy made that kick three seconds

2414
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 2: left in the game, the Rams would have escaped with

2415
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 2: a win and that would have been that. But Jordan

2416
02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 2: Davis not only blocked that kick, he rumbles sixty one

2417
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:02,000
Speaker 2: yards for a touchdown, which they didn't need to do.

2418
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 2: They already won the game. You think you fall down right, Well,

2419
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:08,000
Speaker 2: no you don't. So instead of covering, you lose thirty

2420
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 2: three to twenty six. And I'm believe in a lot

2421
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 2: of money shifted hands. But again there's another situation where

2422
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles only put up two hundred and eighty eight

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02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:19,880
Speaker 2: yards that day. The Rams put up three point fifty six,

2424
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 2: So the Eagles, though, again you find this is what

2425
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 2: great teams do, and in fact, Franklin Nolan Ryan said

2426
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 2: it best. The mark of a great pitcher is when

2427
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 2: you beat teams and you don't have your best stuff.

2428
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:37,480
Speaker 2: The Eagles became the first NFL team in forty seven

2429
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 2: years to block a kick, whether it be a punt

2430
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 2: or a field goal, on three consecutive opponent possessions. Football's

2431
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 2: played in three phases. Special teams. Guys have roles as well,

2432
02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 2: So when you're well coached and you got guys dogs,

2433
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 2: this is what happened. Now, look, we're not going to

2434
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 2: go over every game and what happened. I think there's

2435
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 2: awareness in Philadelphia. Jalen Hurts basically said that we have

2436
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 2: to stop playing not to lose and start playing to win.

2437
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 2: He has a valid point, okay, but Sirianni and all

2438
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:15,880
Speaker 2: of his you know, mad scientists ways, he started four

2439
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 2: to zero in three different seasons since he got the

2440
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:21,600
Speaker 2: job in twenty twenty one, and he talks the way

2441
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 2: he talks about, it's the process and then the coach speak,

2442
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 2: because Philly turned over a lot of players. They turned over.

2443
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 2: We talked about this heading into week one when they

2444
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 2: were laying a bundle against Dallas and I like Dallas

2445
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 2: that first Thursday night game and they ended up covering,

2446
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, and he says, hey, we're not turning it

2447
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 2: over now. Defensively, you can't give up explosive plays. We

2448
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 2: give up explosive plays. And then in a couple of

2449
02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 2: games they turned it over and Sirihanna says, well, we

2450
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 2: want to be aggressive, but we want to play the

2451
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 2: second half, and we want to play it all three phases.

2452
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 2: And he credited Baker Mayfield, and he credited Todd Bowles,

2453
02:08:56,960 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 2: and he credited all their talent. But somehow Philadelphia found

2454
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 2: a way to win. So they seem comfortable living on

2455
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 2: the edge. And so far, you can't say it's not

2456
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:16,680
Speaker 2: working out because they're four and zero and they're you know. Now,

2457
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 2: they faced Denver later on today. Philly's a three and

2458
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 2: a half point favorite, bo Nick's coming off his best game.

2459
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 2: Denver has seventy eight sacks in their last twenty games. Meanwhile,

2460
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, I've told you about the Eagles, and they're

2461
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 2: Travail's on offense and AJ Brown is unhappy. I think

2462
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 2: they need to get I think Eagles need to get

2463
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 2: AJ Brown going two catches for seven yards on nine

2464
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 2: targets last week. And I think there was, you know,

2465
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 2: the typical cryptic tweet post game. But AJ Brown has

2466
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:52,000
Speaker 2: been held to twenty seven or few yards in three

2467
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 2: or four games. He's not playing for Tennessee anymore. And

2468
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 2: by the way, again I mentioned this earlier. Philly's passing

2469
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 2: game ranks thirty first in the NFL. So look, Brown's

2470
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 2: asking for the ball. He deserves the ball. The Broncos

2471
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 2: defense is no joke. But I would say Denver's really

2472
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to bring their AA plus game to beat Philly.

2473
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia, they're getting used to their new personnel. They're

2474
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 2: nine to three against the spread in their past twelve

2475
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 2: games as favorites. They're just tough and it's a tough

2476
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 2: place to play. And before last week, when Knicks had

2477
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:33,040
Speaker 2: his best game of the year, he hadn't had a

2478
02:10:33,080 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 2: lot of success getting the ball down the field to

2479
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 2: kick start the offense. But he was settled in Monday

2480
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 2: night showed good footwork, good patience. This will be a

2481
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:45,280
Speaker 2: real test in Philadelphia, though, because even though the Eagles

2482
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 2: haven't looked good, they're still winning and frankly, you gotta

2483
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 2: be glass at full. I think that should be of

2484
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 2: concern to their opponents, their future opponents, and well their

2485
02:10:57,680 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 2: past opponents already know. By the way, if you missed

2486
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Speaker 2: Coming up, we are going to continue with our NFL coverage,

2494
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 2: but I want to switch gears ever so quickly. We

2495
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:41,280
Speaker 2: talked about the travail's that the WNBA has had with

2496
02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 2: their TV ratings and their revenues and things of that nature. Well,

2497
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Speaker 2: I've been saying this since the beginning of the year,

2498
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 2: and I can't believe I've still heard people on the

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Speaker 2: air in April, May and of the summer saying baseball is

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Speaker 2: not popular anymore. I don't know what you've been smoking,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want it. I'm willing to debunk that

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Speaker 2: theory and find Feddle coming up. I'm Bernie Fradderwick Company

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Speaker 4: and Pacific six am Eastern, four hours and ten minutes

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Speaker 4: away from the Vikings and Browns. I'm gonna call an

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Speaker 4: audible here.

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Speaker 2: I want to save my commentary on the Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball National TV ratings in the dramatic numbers they've put

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Speaker 2: forth this year on all of their platforms. I want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to do that to close the show. I

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Speaker 2: want to I want to dive into and by the way,

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Speaker 2: congratulations the Dodgers for drawing first blood in Philadelphia after

2521
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 2: trailing three nothing. I'm telling you, October Baseball is different,

2522
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers are built for this man. It is

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02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 2: in their DNA now that they got one under their

2524
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 2: belt last year. With this group, they are going to

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02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 2: be a very tough outu and based on historical data

2526
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball data, game one winners in a best

2527
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 2: of five series advanced about seventy three percent of the time.

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02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:28,680
Speaker 2: So Philly better get their split Monday or it could

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02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 2: be a long winner. And I know Bryce Harper would

2530
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 2: love to win one after getting that big deal back

2531
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:37,920
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. But I digress. Playoffs are upon us

2532
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 2: October Baseball. We'll be talking more about it as we

2533
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,960
Speaker 2: get closer to the World Series. But there are seven

2534
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 2: new NFL coaches, and I want to check in and evaluate,

2535
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 2: or at least give thoughts and opinions on all seven

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02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 2: new hires, because the league turns over every four or

2537
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 2: five years unless you're one of these veterans like Mike

2538
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:00,680
Speaker 2: Tomlin or you get the picture right, I want to

2539
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 2: start with Ben Johnson. And by the way, four weeks

2540
02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:06,840
Speaker 2: of regular season play is frankly a small sample, but

2541
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 2: you can certainly form impressions and those impressions are often

2542
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:17,800
Speaker 2: justified later by, you know, continued action or non action.

2543
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:22,200
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is two and two with the Bears. Now,

2544
02:14:22,240 --> 02:14:28,080
Speaker 2: depending on what your expectations were with this team, because

2545
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't have great ones. I know that Caleb Williams

2546
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 2: had a good game last week. You're in Las Vegas,

2547
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 2: but I still think he plays playground football, and I

2548
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:39,920
Speaker 2: think there's tension there. They're working through it, but I don't.

2549
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm not nearly as optimistic. So again back to the

2550
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 2: old you've heard me say a thousand times, don't tell me,

2551
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 2: show me. I think Caleb Williams is the next coming. Fine,

2552
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:51,360
Speaker 2: don't tell me show me. So if you're going to

2553
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 2: assess Ben Johnson in his first month, if you got

2554
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,720
Speaker 2: to juxtapose that against whatever expectations you had, if you

2555
02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 2: thought that Ben Johnson was gonna be be a mirror

2556
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 2: worker and turn the Bears offense into the greatest show

2557
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:08,600
Speaker 2: on non turf, or be the next Lions, because the

2558
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,280
Speaker 2: Lions had all kinds of talent, then you may not

2559
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:14,320
Speaker 2: be super happy right now. That's the long term goal,

2560
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson may well have success in Chicago. I

2561
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:20,120
Speaker 2: don't know that it's going to be overnight. I don't

2562
02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 2: know that it's going to be this year. I don't

2563
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 2: know they're ever going to have it. But it was

2564
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 2: completely unrealistic to assume that the Bears would come out

2565
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 2: of the gate the same way the Buffalo Bills have. Okay, fair,

2566
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:32,800
Speaker 2: So yes, we're back to the old It's a process,

2567
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:36,640
Speaker 2: regardless of how badly and I get it. The Bears

2568
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:41,080
Speaker 2: fans would like to see their team make it happen

2569
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 2: forty year anniversary of the eighty five Bears, right, And

2570
02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:46,320
Speaker 2: of course they did get to the Super Bowl in

2571
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 2: two thousand and six, when the two thousand and seven

2572
02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:52,840
Speaker 2: when they lost to Peyton Manning and the Colts. But

2573
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:55,040
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was the big shining new tell me the

2574
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 2: big splashy offseason higher. So there have been some flashes

2575
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 2: the Bears are heading in the right direction. Johnson has

2576
02:16:02,720 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 2: an offensive system that's a tremendous upgrade over what the

2577
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 2: hell they were running last year. But I still don't

2578
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 2: see the consistency that they think they're going to have.

2579
02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, can you say he looks a little bit

2580
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:21,160
Speaker 2: more comfortable than he did last year as a rookie? Yeah? Yeah,

2581
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:23,880
Speaker 2: that's like being the best hockey player in Argentina. I

2582
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,840
Speaker 2: don't know, how can you really again? You need more?

2583
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:30,200
Speaker 2: Chicago doesn't really have a great running game. And the

2584
02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:31,600
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is one of the things that

2585
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:34,480
Speaker 2: made Detroit's offense run under Ben Johnson so well is

2586
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:37,320
Speaker 2: that you had two stud running backs. Okay, if you

2587
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:40,360
Speaker 2: really want to unlock whatever potential Caleb Williams has in

2588
02:16:40,400 --> 02:16:43,760
Speaker 2: the NFL as an NFL player, you got to open

2589
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:45,440
Speaker 2: up passing limbs by running the ball.

2590
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:46,480
Speaker 10: Right.

2591
02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:49,520
Speaker 2: If you think Chicago is going to be in a

2592
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:52,400
Speaker 2: position to push for a playoff spot, well then maybe

2593
02:16:52,440 --> 02:16:54,560
Speaker 2: you make a move with the playoff deadline or the

2594
02:16:54,760 --> 02:17:00,880
Speaker 2: trade deadline. I don't see that happening. I think right

2595
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:04,720
Speaker 2: now the jury's very much out. The returns on Johnson's

2596
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 2: hire are if he but it's new. Remember they blocked

2597
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 2: the field goal against the Raiders, or they'd be one

2598
02:17:12,680 --> 02:17:14,360
Speaker 2: and three and one in three. Just for some reason,

2599
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:17,360
Speaker 2: it sounds way worse than two and two. On the

2600
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:21,320
Speaker 2: other side of the ball, Dannis Sandals defense has actually

2601
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 2: been okay. He's a veteran coordinator. He doesn't have a

2602
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 2: hell of a lot to work with on that side

2603
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 2: of the ball. But again it's Ben Johnson's team. They

2604
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 2: been up and down, they're two and two. The early

2605
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 2: signs are they are what you want them to be.

2606
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: If you think they're promising and you're a Bears fan, fine,

2607
02:17:37,720 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 2: they're promising. But a year from now, if they look

2608
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:44,720
Speaker 2: about like they look now, you know, I don't know.

2609
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:48,039
Speaker 2: He's either going to be the hot shot coaching hier

2610
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:50,160
Speaker 2: that lives up to his hype or just another story

2611
02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 2: from the Naked City with the vast majority of hot

2612
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:55,520
Speaker 2: shot coaching hires don't live up to their hype, Which

2613
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:58,720
Speaker 2: brings us to Mike Vrabel, who's also two and two. Okay,

2614
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:02,039
Speaker 2: start in New England didn't get off to the most

2615
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, heartwarming start if you're if you're a local

2616
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 2: Patriots fan, right especially that week went home lost to

2617
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders and that cowardly fourth down decision and you

2618
02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 2: know they lost to the Raiders at home. Uh but

2619
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:26,160
Speaker 2: I think uh Vrabel learned that, you know, you know, uh,

2620
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:30,000
Speaker 2: what's what's what's what's the old saying? Uh, Fate favors

2621
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:32,360
Speaker 2: the bold. Maybe he's a little bit more bold now

2622
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,640
Speaker 2: and since then he's attempted seven fourth down conversions. In

2623
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:39,640
Speaker 2: the next three games, six to seven, six to seven. Now,

2624
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:43,240
Speaker 2: assuming Vera Bral be unics if I could speak English,

2625
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:47,120
Speaker 2: Vrabel is in the process of trying to up his

2626
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:52,199
Speaker 2: game management skills and modernizing his game management. The truth

2627
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 2: of the matter is the hype that some people were

2628
02:18:54,440 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 2: talking about New England UH this year, including me saying

2629
02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 2: I thought that we're going to be better. How could

2630
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:05,840
Speaker 2: they be worse? Might be, you know, warranted because Rabel

2631
02:19:05,879 --> 02:19:08,600
Speaker 2: does have a reputation for program building and getting the

2632
02:19:08,600 --> 02:19:10,879
Speaker 2: most out of his players. Okay, he's been a coach

2633
02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Ben Johnson's never been a head coach. The

2634
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 2: Patriots roster has a lot of glaring holes, even though

2635
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:22,040
Speaker 2: they had a pretty busy offseason. But again, you have

2636
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:25,600
Speaker 2: a situation. They beat the Panthers and a lopsided game,

2637
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:27,800
Speaker 2: and then when it could be three and one, if

2638
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:30,840
Speaker 2: you know how many times did they fumble against the Steelers,

2639
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:33,600
Speaker 2: and again they played a poor game against the Raiders.

2640
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:38,680
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm not really a Josh McDaniels fan, but

2641
02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:40,360
Speaker 2: they say it's a stroke of genius. And if he

2642
02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:43,040
Speaker 2: likes him, what am I to say? If he can help,

2643
02:19:43,080 --> 02:19:45,440
Speaker 2: If Josh McDaniels can help Drake may take the next

2644
02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:49,160
Speaker 2: step in his development. Fine, he's completing seventy four percent

2645
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:52,240
Speaker 2: of his passes. He's showing real potential, which he also

2646
02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:55,320
Speaker 2: showed last year. I don't think Josh mcdamis will never

2647
02:19:55,320 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 2: get ever, get another head coaching job again in the NFL.

2648
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,880
Speaker 2: Learn in Denver and they didn't learn here in Las Vegas,

2649
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:05,800
Speaker 2: then don't. I don't know what you're thinking.

2650
02:20:06,400 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 11: But.

2651
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 2: If given the opportunity and enough weapons, they might produce

2652
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:18,119
Speaker 2: offensively in New England, which will be part of Mike

2653
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:23,199
Speaker 2: Rabel's success, and certainly a situation where at the culture,

2654
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,480
Speaker 2: at the players, at their game plan in three phases.

2655
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 2: I think Rabel's actually off to a better start than

2656
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:30,960
Speaker 2: I would say for Ben Johnson. I would that feels

2657
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:33,880
Speaker 2: the situation in New England feels less tenuous to me

2658
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 2: that it does in Chicago. That's come to Las Vegas, Pete,

2659
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:40,640
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll one and three. Uh, here's the thing, though,

2660
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll made it clear when he got to Las

2661
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:47,240
Speaker 2: Vegas he's not here to to to, you know, be

2662
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 2: part of this protracted rebuild. He wants to win now

2663
02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:53,360
Speaker 2: because that's what he's always done. They ain't gonna win.

2664
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:55,720
Speaker 2: Now they're one and three and they're head to Indianapolis

2665
02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:59,720
Speaker 2: later today. And no Colt Miller, I don't know about

2666
02:20:59,720 --> 02:21:04,160
Speaker 2: brock Bowers, Geno Smister on seven interceptions and hope always

2667
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 2: brings eternal. Here in Las Vegas, I constantly hear the

2668
02:21:07,160 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 2: local media this is a year man start the car

2669
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:13,080
Speaker 2: Then Josh mcgaine's, oh, he's our man. Every year it's

2670
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:17,279
Speaker 2: the same bs just again, don't tell me showby. Nobody

2671
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:21,160
Speaker 2: talks more. The Raiders are an iconic organization and the

2672
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:23,120
Speaker 2: NFL is better when the Raiders are good. Let's just

2673
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 2: face it, because people either love them or hate him.

2674
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,600
Speaker 2: I think they're you know what Al Davis created. They're

2675
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 2: still living in the past. They don't win on the field.

2676
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 2: Come on now, Carol's number one staff hire Chip Kelly,

2677
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:38,200
Speaker 2: and he made him the highest paid offensive coyd ender

2678
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:41,800
Speaker 2: in the league. I can't exactly say chip Kelly has

2679
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:47,720
Speaker 2: provided a great return on investment. Yet the scheme is like, uh,

2680
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:51,720
Speaker 2: the offensive line struggled and it's been listen some of

2681
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:54,640
Speaker 2: the breakdowns and pass protection and then the run game

2682
02:21:55,280 --> 02:22:00,160
Speaker 2: have been downright. Well, look like Benny hill ye, and

2683
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:04,040
Speaker 2: I get it to Aston Genty had a breakout, breakout

2684
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:07,800
Speaker 2: game last week. Good for him, but it was against

2685
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:13,320
Speaker 2: the freaking Bears. The Bears stink. I'm sorry. We'll see

2686
02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:17,360
Speaker 2: what they do against the Colts later on today. Right now,

2687
02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 2: the Raiders are kind of competitive. But to get to

2688
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 2: be competitive, where they find to win the game. Find

2689
02:22:23,360 --> 02:22:27,200
Speaker 2: a way to win the game. Like last week they

2690
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:29,160
Speaker 2: would have been two and two instead of one and three.

2691
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:34,400
Speaker 2: They found ways to lose it, blown assignments, penalties, turnovers,

2692
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:39,120
Speaker 2: the field goal getting blocked. I think there are ways away. Okay,

2693
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,440
Speaker 2: how much longer would Pete Carroll coach? Let's say it's

2694
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 2: at least three years. I endorsed the higher I thought

2695
02:22:47,160 --> 02:22:50,000
Speaker 2: it was a good hire. But if he didn't get

2696
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:51,959
Speaker 2: it done in three years, I mean, look what's happening now,

2697
02:22:51,959 --> 02:22:56,959
Speaker 2: and Antonio could have done this. But I digress, all right.

2698
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:00,760
Speaker 2: I was a big Liam Cohen fan in Tampa Bay.

2699
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:04,160
Speaker 2: Went on Jason Smith's podcast. I said, watch it. I

2700
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:06,760
Speaker 2: do it right before the season every year, and I said,

2701
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:09,360
Speaker 2: people aren't talking about this guy. His offensive genius is

2702
02:23:09,480 --> 02:23:13,119
Speaker 2: rock Trees. Baker Mayfield had a baffo year. He started

2703
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:17,600
Speaker 2: out three and one on Jacksonville. Jacksonville, it was you know,

2704
02:23:17,959 --> 02:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Punttt said that Jacksonville was taking a bigger risk by

2705
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:25,359
Speaker 2: hiring Liam Cohen only because, yes, he had great success

2706
02:23:25,959 --> 02:23:29,279
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay during his one season as the offensive coordinator.

2707
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:32,000
Speaker 2: The question was was that enough of a resume for

2708
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:35,240
Speaker 2: a successful head coach. But as it turns out, I'm

2709
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 2: gonna say thumbs up. Okay, he can't make any totally

2710
02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:42,800
Speaker 2: definitive judgments and predictions about where Jacksonville's going to be

2711
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 2: curious to see how they do against Kansas City this weekend.

2712
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:52,959
Speaker 2: But this dude, Liam Cohen has command of this job period.

2713
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:56,280
Speaker 2: He has shown the same schematic genius that made him

2714
02:23:56,280 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 2: a rising star while he had Baker Mayfield in Tampa Bay.

2715
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 2: The run game has been a breakout. They had the

2716
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:08,440
Speaker 2: same personnel from last year. Okay, but Travis atn is

2717
02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 2: averaging six point one yards of carry. He didn't do

2718
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,920
Speaker 2: that last year without Leon Cohen. They're doing it this

2719
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:18,080
Speaker 2: year now. The passing game hasn't been on the same level,

2720
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:22,160
Speaker 2: and Cohen probably knows he needs to get the ball

2721
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:25,560
Speaker 2: more to Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter. But let this

2722
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:29,840
Speaker 2: marinate because you know, we talked about the Bears showing

2723
02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:35,800
Speaker 2: some flashes, Jacksonville showing some flashes, especially considering Trevor Lawrence

2724
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,320
Speaker 2: has been a bottom five quarterback in terms of his

2725
02:24:38,560 --> 02:24:43,120
Speaker 2: inaccuracy and he's not really recorded a lot of big

2726
02:24:43,160 --> 02:24:47,279
Speaker 2: time throws this year. But Cohen also built a great staff.

2727
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:50,320
Speaker 2: He's a guy, and he brought in Anthony Campanille as

2728
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:54,280
Speaker 2: his offensive or defensive coordinators scuse me, and that's been

2729
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 2: a great hire so far. Jacksonville's defense has been incredibly productive.

2730
02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:00,720
Speaker 2: They don't have the best secondary, they have a mediocre

2731
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:04,760
Speaker 2: secondary and paper, but somehow they've led the league with

2732
02:25:04,840 --> 02:25:07,520
Speaker 2: nine turnovers and they're sitting taged with the Rams for

2733
02:25:07,640 --> 02:25:09,879
Speaker 2: second in the yards for place. So the Jags hit

2734
02:25:09,879 --> 02:25:13,080
Speaker 2: a home run with his staff. Okay, the New York

2735
02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:16,920
Speaker 2: Jets on four and they deserve to be on four. Now.

2736
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn was a great player when he was with

2737
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:22,440
Speaker 2: the Jets, and I think there was a they tried

2738
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 2: to romanticize that when they brought Aaron Glenn in and

2739
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:31,040
Speaker 2: hired him away from the Lions. Okay. The other thing, too,

2740
02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:34,119
Speaker 2: is Aaron Glenn is a no nonsense, no BS guy

2741
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:38,880
Speaker 2: and given the last decade or beyond with the Jets organization.

2742
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Not only was it going to be a challenge to

2743
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:51,119
Speaker 2: correct that that completely scattered shot type of organizational culture,

2744
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:54,920
Speaker 2: there was a thought that it would be hard for

2745
02:25:54,959 --> 02:25:58,800
Speaker 2: the Jets to get a top candidate. All right, So

2746
02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 2: the Jets believe they have on an Aaron Glenn. All right,

2747
02:26:03,320 --> 02:26:07,680
Speaker 2: he's a CEO type of a coach, and I don't know,

2748
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 2: he's a defensive guy. And Collins Coward's got this theory

2749
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:13,360
Speaker 2: that all you got to have an offensive coach to

2750
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:16,800
Speaker 2: have a good quarterback and a well, come on Belichick.

2751
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:19,800
Speaker 2: With how many years with Belichick in New England, that

2752
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:22,240
Speaker 2: offense did pretty well. The odd defense did as well.

2753
02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:24,320
Speaker 2: But you can eat a player, you can't. And you

2754
02:26:24,360 --> 02:26:26,720
Speaker 2: know how I feel about Justin Fields. Love the guy.

2755
02:26:26,760 --> 02:26:28,560
Speaker 2: I just don't want him as my quarterback and I

2756
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 2: don't think he'll be their their long term Quarterback'd be

2757
02:26:31,560 --> 02:26:35,240
Speaker 2: curious to see if the Jets select a quarterback because

2758
02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:38,880
Speaker 2: they're going to draft near the top of the draft clearly,

2759
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,880
Speaker 2: all right, now, Glenn had an impressive run as a

2760
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:46,920
Speaker 2: defensive coordator in Detroit top ten despite injuries, and I

2761
02:26:46,959 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 2: think there is still optimism what he can do with

2762
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:55,840
Speaker 2: this Jets defense, but the early results again bottom five.

2763
02:26:56,959 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 2: So the truth of the matter is, either it's going

2764
02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:01,760
Speaker 2: to take time for Glenn to clean these things up

2765
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:03,520
Speaker 2: in New York. He built it Detroit, but you had

2766
02:27:03,560 --> 02:27:06,920
Speaker 2: a ton of talent there, and so maybe with a

2767
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:11,840
Speaker 2: couple of good drafts, maybe some acquisitions, whatever, it's going

2768
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:15,200
Speaker 2: to take some time. It's really going to take some

2769
02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:18,560
Speaker 2: time with the Jets. And let's be clear, it's been

2770
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:23,240
Speaker 2: since twenty ten since the Jets were lasting the playoffs.

2771
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:25,680
Speaker 2: All right, everybody made fun of this higher maybe they

2772
02:27:25,720 --> 02:27:28,360
Speaker 2: made more fun of the process. But even though Brian

2773
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer's won two and one and Jerry Jones took a

2774
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:35,640
Speaker 2: lot of heat for hiring Schottenheimer, I think again he

2775
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:37,880
Speaker 2: took more heat for the way he handled the process.

2776
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:45,400
Speaker 2: This dude has impressed me with his demeanor, his physical latitude,

2777
02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:48,360
Speaker 2: his comportment, the way he handles things. He was an

2778
02:27:48,400 --> 02:27:53,240
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the last two years of Mike McCarthy's tenure,

2779
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,000
Speaker 2: so he knows what he's doing on that side of

2780
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:57,200
Speaker 2: the ball. Is his son of Marty Schottenheimer. He just

2781
02:27:57,240 --> 02:28:00,280
Speaker 2: seems to have the temperament and the intellect he's been

2782
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 2: around the NFL. I think the team believes in them,

2783
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:06,240
Speaker 2: and I'm really impressed with what Dak Prescott is doing.

2784
02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Dallas has got a lot of holes on both sides

2785
02:28:09,240 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 2: of the ball, and they lost Michael Parsons. But let's

2786
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,480
Speaker 2: give Dallas credit. Remember how we were raving about this

2787
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:20,800
Speaker 2: green Bay defense, including me, Well, this Dallas team put

2788
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,720
Speaker 2: out forty points against green Bay and yeah it was

2789
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:25,959
Speaker 2: a tie, but that was a loss for green Bay. Okay,

2790
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:30,360
Speaker 2: that's the fourth best offensive showing the Cowboys big day.

2791
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:34,800
Speaker 2: Was even more impressed. And when you consider that most

2792
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:38,600
Speaker 2: other teams had their offensive explosions that are ready to

2793
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:41,920
Speaker 2: head to Dallas against helpless defenses, the Packers defense is

2794
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 2: already good. They've been stacking first round draft choices for years,

2795
02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:47,280
Speaker 2: and now you acquire Michael Parsons and it was a

2796
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:55,200
Speaker 2: revenge game. Now there's one problem. For some reason, Selma

2797
02:28:55,240 --> 02:29:02,160
Speaker 2: said Kertsche Brian Schottenheimer hired Matt Eberfluss. Ah, that's the

2798
02:29:02,200 --> 02:29:04,760
Speaker 2: barrest guy we were just talking about. With all due respect,

2799
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:09,080
Speaker 2: the defensive unit has been as bad as it can be. Now,

2800
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,760
Speaker 2: maybe Jerry Jones made the decision to hire Matt Eberflus,

2801
02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:17,080
Speaker 2: But with all due respect to Matt Eberflus, it was

2802
02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:22,400
Speaker 2: a nightmare tenure in Chicago, and it feels like that

2803
02:29:22,520 --> 02:29:24,640
Speaker 2: might not have been a good hire. And so you know,

2804
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:29,200
Speaker 2: that's what Schottenheimer's dealing with. But as far as things

2805
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,640
Speaker 2: that are in his control in the offense, so far,

2806
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:33,600
Speaker 2: so good. I think Dallas can win eight nine games

2807
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,960
Speaker 2: this year. I think they can. They got to clean

2808
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:37,760
Speaker 2: things up. They've had a tough, tough schedule. We had

2809
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 2: a Green Bay and you had Green Bay in Philly

2810
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:45,760
Speaker 2: the first four weeks not easy, and you have the

2811
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:50,039
Speaker 2: Jets this weekend. Kellen Moore, we don't We have no

2812
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:52,320
Speaker 2: idea what kind of coach Kellen Moore is going to

2813
02:29:52,360 --> 02:29:56,520
Speaker 2: be as the tenure goes on with New Orleans. He's

2814
02:29:56,560 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 2: kind of a journeyman coordinator. You know, he was part

2815
02:29:59,879 --> 02:30:06,039
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl championship team with Philadelphia, and I think,

2816
02:30:07,120 --> 02:30:11,200
Speaker 2: you know, you have to give Kellen Moore some rope

2817
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:14,400
Speaker 2: because the Saints are going to rebuild and they just

2818
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:16,760
Speaker 2: seemed they're just gonna have to fill out the roster

2819
02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 2: before they can become a contender again. And everything is cyclical.

2820
02:30:22,400 --> 02:30:24,800
Speaker 2: They will be again at some point. Okay, look the

2821
02:30:24,879 --> 02:30:27,720
Speaker 2: salary cat mismanagement dating back to the Sean Payton era.

2822
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:31,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a while before this team can turn

2823
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:34,000
Speaker 2: the tide. They're coming off a three and fourteen season. Then,

2824
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:36,520
Speaker 2: by the way, you could put Sean Payton as head

2825
02:30:36,560 --> 02:30:37,880
Speaker 2: coach of this team. I don't know how well you

2826
02:30:37,959 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 2: do with the talent. Okay, they'd have, but I think

2827
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:44,600
Speaker 2: when you saw the way the Saints competed like they

2828
02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:47,920
Speaker 2: did last week in Buffalo, I think Saints fans should

2829
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 2: be cautiously optimistic that they can turn it around. It's

2830
02:30:52,560 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 2: just gonna take time. Kellen Moore has at least put

2831
02:30:57,360 --> 02:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler on the offense in position to be competitive,

2832
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:04,400
Speaker 2: and they were competitive against the real Super Bowl contender.

2833
02:31:05,080 --> 02:31:08,480
Speaker 2: So you know, let let it let it pan out.

2834
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,520
Speaker 2: So all the coaches, the jury is out. The jury

2835
02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:14,760
Speaker 2: is out. For me, I'm most impressed with Brian Schottenhirron,

2836
02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:17,960
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen. You already know what Carol can do, Rabel

2837
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:21,119
Speaker 2: can do, We'll see what Ben Johnson can do. These

2838
02:31:21,160 --> 02:31:23,280
Speaker 2: jobs ain't so easy, and there's only thirty two of

2839
02:31:23,320 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 2: them in there, and they're you know, they're highly coveted jobs.

2840
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:29,720
Speaker 2: But what's the old joke that's been overstated about eight

2841
02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:33,039
Speaker 2: billion times. The NFL stands for not for long. If

2842
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:37,199
Speaker 2: you don't you know't win, and that's the way it rolls.

2843
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:41,200
Speaker 2: So again, we're less than four hours away from the

2844
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:45,280
Speaker 2: NFL Week five resuming, and it is a week two

2845
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:48,560
Speaker 2: week league, so don't be surprised if there are surprises.

2846
02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 2: By the way, the Major league playoffs continue off and

2847
02:31:52,840 --> 02:31:56,959
Speaker 2: running hard with a vengeance. And we talked about the

2848
02:31:57,000 --> 02:32:01,600
Speaker 2: w NBA TV ratings and such. The Major League Baseball

2849
02:32:01,800 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 2: national TV ratings have risen dramatically in twenty twenty five.

2850
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:10,879
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm going to tell you how much.

2851
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:15,880
Speaker 2: It's a situation that bodes very well for the national pastime,

2852
02:32:15,879 --> 02:32:18,000
Speaker 2: whether people want to believe it or not. I'm Bernie Fridda.

2853
02:32:18,040 --> 02:32:19,680
Speaker 2: We're coming to your line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

2854
02:32:19,760 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked you listen to the Bernie

2855
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Wrapping up on the

2856
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio. Coming to live from

2857
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Thanks

2858
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:37,000
Speaker 2: so much to my producers Mark and Brianna. Appreciate all

2859
02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 2: the efforts. And by the way, uh, you know, the

2860
02:32:41,240 --> 02:32:43,760
Speaker 2: NFL is hot and heavy, and we talked about the

2861
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:49,000
Speaker 2: NBA earlier with Mark Mark Medina and the baseball postseason

2862
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 2: is here. Will the Dodgers become the first team in

2863
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 2: twenty five years to repeat? Well, they're alive. They're more

2864
02:32:55,720 --> 02:33:01,560
Speaker 2: than alive, So we'll see. But this is a I

2865
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:06,360
Speaker 2: want to share some information that is something I think

2866
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 2: has been brewing for a while, and that is baseball

2867
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:12,800
Speaker 2: is very alive and well see because not only did

2868
02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:16,680
Speaker 2: baseball report solid attendance numbers this year, but the story

2869
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:21,600
Speaker 2: on television is really the story. Baseball finished the twenty

2870
02:33:21,640 --> 02:33:25,840
Speaker 2: twenty five regular season with incredibly strong viewership increases on

2871
02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:29,039
Speaker 2: every one of its national TV partners, and that just

2872
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:34,240
Speaker 2: speaks to the momentum that's building around the sport. ESPN. Now,

2873
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 2: remember it's been ESPN and Baseball have been a staple

2874
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:44,279
Speaker 2: since Moby Dick was a minto. But this is ESPN's

2875
02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 2: final season with Sunday Night Baseball after thirty five years,

2876
02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:51,160
Speaker 2: and they average one point eight million for all of

2877
02:33:51,160 --> 02:33:54,440
Speaker 2: its regular season coverage up this year, up twenty one

2878
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:59,360
Speaker 2: percent from twenty twenty four. Meanwhile, on Fox the game's

2879
02:33:59,400 --> 02:34:02,200
Speaker 2: on brock as to average two point four million viewers,

2880
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:05,920
Speaker 2: while cable games on FS one averaged about three hundred

2881
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:09,560
Speaker 2: and twenty four thousand viewers, both ten percent increases over

2882
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:15,200
Speaker 2: last year. TNT, remember that's Warner Brothers Discovery outlet. They're

2883
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:18,200
Speaker 2: about to head to Discovery Global and this corporate split,

2884
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:22,520
Speaker 2: they averaged four hundred and sixty two thousand viewers for

2885
02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:27,120
Speaker 2: the most were non exclusive Major League Baseball games this year.

2886
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:33,800
Speaker 2: That represents a twenty nine percent increase from last year. Meanwhile,

2887
02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:38,920
Speaker 2: MLB Network, now that's the network that's run by the league.

2888
02:34:38,959 --> 02:34:41,680
Speaker 2: They average about two hundred and sixty one thousand viewers

2889
02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:44,959
Speaker 2: for its out of market showcase live games, which is

2890
02:34:45,160 --> 02:34:49,640
Speaker 2: up thirteen percent from last year. So between ESPN, FOX, TNT,

2891
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:54,480
Speaker 2: and Major League Baseball Network, all four entities saw the

2892
02:34:54,560 --> 02:34:59,280
Speaker 2: national TV ratings by double digits. Now, there was also

2893
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:03,200
Speaker 2: a game in attendance this season, fans coming out to

2894
02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:08,080
Speaker 2: the ballpark, not maybe as dramatic as the gains in

2895
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:13,119
Speaker 2: TV ratings, but what it does is it builds onto

2896
02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:15,440
Speaker 2: a three year run of growth. And this is the

2897
02:35:15,480 --> 02:35:18,840
Speaker 2: biggest three year consecutive run of growth in twenty years.

2898
02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Oh five, oh six and oh seven were the last

2899
02:35:21,800 --> 02:35:24,959
Speaker 2: time they had this kind of growth in fan attendants

2900
02:35:25,240 --> 02:35:31,240
Speaker 2: at games. By the way, listen uh. The Major League

2901
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:35,200
Speaker 2: Baseball has also completed a reworked rights deal for the

2902
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:38,039
Speaker 2: twenty six through twenty eight season because those rights are

2903
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 2: being forfeited by ESPN. So Baseball and their fandom and

2904
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 2: their attendance and their TV viewership, he's in great hands. Now.

2905
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I'm I don't I don't want

2906
02:35:50,440 --> 02:35:53,640
Speaker 2: to bash rob Man Freddie He's I'm underwhelmed by him.

2907
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:55,840
Speaker 2: But he has been he has been a part of this.

2908
02:35:56,640 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 2: And he's got a new deal with NBC that includes

2909
02:35:58,840 --> 02:36:01,480
Speaker 2: his Sunday night presence on the wild Card Playoffs, and

2910
02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:04,000
Speaker 2: another one with Netflix that's going to be based in

2911
02:36:04,040 --> 02:36:06,560
Speaker 2: part on the home Run Derby. So these are things

2912
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 2: that are coming down the pike next year. There's some

2913
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,520
Speaker 2: other key metrics. There was a thirty four percent increase

2914
02:36:13,560 --> 02:36:19,120
Speaker 2: in consumption from MLBtv, meaning in the number of minutes

2915
02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 2: that were watched. Okay, I don't even know how to

2916
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:26,760
Speaker 2: put this in a perspective. Nineteen point thirty nine billion

2917
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:30,600
Speaker 2: minutes were watched on MLB TV. That's a thirty five

2918
02:36:30,640 --> 02:36:33,959
Speaker 2: percent increase. By the way, you know, you hear numbers

2919
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:36,840
Speaker 2: like million in billion. Let me give you some perspective

2920
02:36:36,879 --> 02:36:38,480
Speaker 2: on that. If you started to count to a million

2921
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:41,400
Speaker 2: one second at a time, it would take you twelve days.

2922
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:44,120
Speaker 2: If you started to count to a billion one second

2923
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:49,160
Speaker 2: at a time, that twelve days jumps to thirty three years.

2924
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:56,400
Speaker 2: Twelve days, thirty three years. People watched MLB TV for

2925
02:36:56,920 --> 02:37:01,040
Speaker 2: nineteen point thirty nine billion minutes, another league record. By

2926
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:04,920
Speaker 2: the way, average game times actually we're two minutes longer

2927
02:37:04,959 --> 02:37:08,040
Speaker 2: this year, two hours and thirty eight minutes, but they're

2928
02:37:08,080 --> 02:37:11,760
Speaker 2: still well below the twenty twenty three measures you know,

2929
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:15,560
Speaker 2: you know, notably the pitch clock and those types of

2930
02:37:15,640 --> 02:37:18,400
Speaker 2: things that keep the game moving faster. By the way,

2931
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:24,040
Speaker 2: another feather in their cap, Japanese viewership posted huge totals

2932
02:37:24,080 --> 02:37:27,600
Speaker 2: not only during last year's World Series, but also during

2933
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:31,640
Speaker 2: this season's opening series, which averaged just under three million

2934
02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:34,640
Speaker 2: viewers per game. That's also up another twenty percent. By

2935
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:38,200
Speaker 2: the way, it's not just national TV, it's local increases too.

2936
02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Game viewership across the league on regional sports networks go

2937
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:46,000
Speaker 2: two percent. That's something Main Street Sports they're the largest

2938
02:37:46,360 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 2: single operator of baseball broadcasting through its Fan Duel Sports Network. Well,

2939
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:53,720
Speaker 2: they said major League Baseball coverage across their owned and

2940
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:56,920
Speaker 2: operated outlets, they have about fifteen of them averaged one

2941
02:37:56,920 --> 02:37:59,879
Speaker 2: and a half million daily viewers across all their p

2942
02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:04,560
Speaker 2: which is also an eighteen percent increase from twenty twenty four.

2943
02:38:06,240 --> 02:38:10,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, there was a real turnaround this company,

2944
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:14,199
Speaker 2: formerly Diamond Sports. They re emerged from Chapter eleven bankruptcy

2945
02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:16,119
Speaker 2: with a new name and they have a new vision

2946
02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 2: and they're big on digital access to live games. So

2947
02:38:20,720 --> 02:38:24,440
Speaker 2: keep an eye on Amazon channels. Major League Baseball on

2948
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:28,840
Speaker 2: Fan Duel Sports Network generated that generated more than two

2949
02:38:28,879 --> 02:38:31,760
Speaker 2: point eight billion minutes of consumption this year, which is

2950
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:35,440
Speaker 2: double what it did last year. So the truth of

2951
02:38:35,480 --> 02:38:38,840
Speaker 2: the matter is we know that they're all the beneficiary

2952
02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:44,200
Speaker 2: of strong baseball seasons, sensational stars being developed and performances

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Speaker 2: you know, like Shoheio Tani and the Big Dumper and

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Speaker 2: so on and so forth. But the fans are showing up. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The other component is that the audience has benefited from

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Speaker 2: this access model and the way baseball is propagated now,

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Speaker 2: the way you watch it, and it's it's better than ever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the announcers are better than ever,

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Speaker 2: but between the graphics and the camera work and the

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Speaker 2: way that a game is produced, it's next level stuff.

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Speaker 2: So major League Baseball, and as these playoffs continue, it's

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Speaker 2: been a banner year. We'll see if they can grow

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Speaker 2: from here. We'll see. Could you imagine if we have

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Speaker 2: another Dodgers Yankees World Series? It could happen. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: do it for the Bernie Frattle show up next, the

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Speaker 2: great Andy Ferman, the Fox Sports Radio