1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Is the war in Ukraine actually lost? 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Today on the David Rutherford Show, I welcome international businessman 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: and former combat veteran Stephen Kuhn. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Stephen Man, thank you so much. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: For coming on the reason why I absolutely wanted to 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: get you on is I watched one of your videos 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: recently that you posted about Ukraine, and it was so 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: poignant and so direct as to what the actual ground 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: scenario is going on of anything I've been hearing other 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: than Scott rid Or recently. But I just I really 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. I'm really looking forward to your insights. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Hey, my pleasure, and the more we can get the 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: message out, the better. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Awesome important all right, current status of Ukraine from your perspective, 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: who's winning, who's not? Where do they stand militaristically, financial 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: and other key aspects of the relationships that are driving this. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know I have I have in my intel's 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: from from both sides, so I sort of have a 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: nice mix of it all. And there are there's conflicting 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: reports on just about everything you can talk about. But 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: what I do know is that the European Union is 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: will not give up until this war is being fought. 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Like they will not give up there. They're they're betting 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: everything that they have on this war and they're losing it, right, 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: They're they're absolutely losing, and Ukraine's losing. They're losing more. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what the what the ratio is, but 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: they're losing something like three to four to one soldiers. 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: There's all kinds of there's a big propaganda push against 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: Russia right now. The gas lines that you know everyways broke, 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: the recruiting old old troopers and things like that. But 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: my guys, my EXSF, my ex Special Forces guys, PEZ 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: not guys or whatever. They're like, nah, it's not true. Uh, 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: you know, Russia is very in a very strong position 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: and they could they can milk this war for the 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: next three to five years, no problem at all. 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and so this is what they're telling me. So, 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, and that means does Putin want to end 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: this war and then like sort of cut the borders 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: and you know, late laid down the law or does 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: he want to basically suck the EU dry and teach 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: them a lesson. That's where we're at right now in 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: my opinion, because the EU will not you know, on 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: one hand, they say we want peace, we want peace, 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: and then they say, okay, let's do it. Well, no, 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: we're not going to talk to Russians. Well, how can 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: you have peace without the diplomacy? It just doesn't work. 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: And then people say, why isn't the EU and invited 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: to these peace songs. It's because they have no legitimacy, 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: they have no credibility. Most of the leaders Macrone, Fund 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: the Lion, and all of these puppets, they literally have 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: done nothing of substance in their entire life, and the 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: ones who have, they're wanted in their own countries, like 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: funded Lion is you know, has criminal charges in Germany, 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: and I forget the other guy's name from Portugal, the 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: president he's also has charges against him in Portugal. So 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: they send them to the EU and say do what 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: we say and you won't go to jail. And so 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: they lie to you. They know their lion, you know 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: their lying. The public knows lying, and everybody treats like 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: it's real. It's an absolute farce and it's a joke. 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: And Russia knows it. Lavrov definitely knows it, and I've 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: seen messages from him where he's pretty much at the 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: point where It's like, look, we can't trust anybody anymore. 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: Even Trump keeps flip flopping. He says something in public, 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: and he says something different in private, and he goes 67 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: back to public and says something different again. And they said, 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: we're going to What did he say? He said, we're 69 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: going with the Supreme Leader's decision and this war hour 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: a way. 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: That was his words, specifically his words from Lavrov directly. 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Now you know. 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Just recently, Putin was interviewed for five hours and asked 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: just about answered every single question that the media asked him, 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: almost to a point where it seemed like he was 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: almost like Trump in his desire to just speak his 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: mind in real time. What do you why do you 79 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: think that the europe the people of the European Union, 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the people of the Calk says, why do you think 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: they continue to listen to the propaganda that the EU 82 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: is putting out. 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to say, because they're not. 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: They're not. 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that's listening. Very few people are listening. 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: The only ones that are listening. Is the same thing 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: in the states that the ones that have to hang 88 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: on to the to their structure of the entire life 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: that they've built around these lines, and they you know, 90 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: they believe, you know, the Democrats are the liberals, or 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: we stand for peace and all this kind of stuff. 92 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: But every action they take and every word they speak 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: is the contrary. And you know, cognitive dissonance, you've heard 94 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: of that before. But the people don't want this, The 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: people don't want to work. There's people online now there's 96 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: a big German push that people go online and they say, 97 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: I denounce my government, I do not support this war 98 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: and they will not do it in my name in 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: case they do it anyway, I want this for record, 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: especially Germans, for obvious reasons, right alutely. And then you 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: have like the secret VW board meeting they had with 102 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: the shareholders where they said, look, this is our worst 103 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: year we've had in a long time, but next year 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: we're going all the way up because we're went over 105 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: into war production. So they're already planning this. Industry, big 106 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: industry in Germany is already planning this, and it's a 107 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: it's a scary thing because they're planning it in order 108 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: to ship everything to the Balkans and Baltics and the 109 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: Slavic states in order to have the battle there, and 110 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: that includes of course Hungary, which is one of the 111 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: last you know, sort of conservative strongholds in Central Europe, 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: central eastern Europe. And so it's a it's a it's 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: a it's a it's a quagmire right now. But the 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: people they don't want it. I don't know anybody who 115 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: wants it. I don't know if you know, but you 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: know one of the co founders what became the a 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: f D in Germany, Oh, well, the three of us, yeah, myself, 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Beatrix Funch Stores and s Fen Flinch Stores, and Beatrix 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: is a vice chair right now. They were just in 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: the White House two weeks ago with Jada Vance and 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: with Jim Jim Jordan, and you know, they had had 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: a bunch of a bunch of meetings about this. 123 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: So the question I have what happened to those uh 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: uh eighth the individual politicians that were that died right 125 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: before the elections. I mean, I try to search for 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: any type of story I could, and I didn't find anything. 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: What's going on with that? 128 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Well, the strange thing about that is I reached out 129 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: to my intel guys. There was no wires from no embassy, 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: from no intel nothing. It's the strangest thing I've ever 131 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: seen when it comes to intel, because I've seen a 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of strange things. 133 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: But I'm sure you have to yes for sure. 134 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: But there was seven out of fourteen, so fourteen politicians 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: died within a two week period. Seven of those were 136 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: from the AfD. One of them was regional. All the 137 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: other ones were just citywide or even county wide, so 138 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: very very low level, no impact, no nothing. I looked, 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: tried hard, and the AFT leadership that I was speaking 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: you said, it isn't what it looks like, don't worry 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: about it. Just that answer right there showed me that 142 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: it probably is something else. I couldn't find any information 143 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: on it, even the people that I know that aren't official, 144 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: the official people, I couldn't find anything on it. What 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: it seems to me is, let's do something here at 146 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: a low level. It's sure the reaction is and then 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: see what happens later. And if you look at you 148 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: know what they're doing in the Balkans and the Slavic 149 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: states where they're just annulling you know, elections are in 150 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: Poland where they sold half the election. People are accepting 151 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: everything these days because the information flow is so quick. 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: They get you on the next thing. It's distraction, distraction, distraction, 153 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: and your distraction number three and two distractions ago, they 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: just killed somebody and you already forgot about it. So 155 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: it's so fast moving right now. But the only reason 156 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: they're moving this fast is because they're panicing because they're 157 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: losing control because Trump, believe it or not, is dismantling 158 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: the world order and it starts with the UK. I 159 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: don't know if you know about all that, but you 160 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: know there's all that kind of stuff. 161 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: They control it. 162 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, now they're moving really quick like this, 163 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: and they're doing whatever they can do to make it work, 164 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: and they will. You know, they have meetings every week 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: with zilian Ski and the EU and they're shaking hands 166 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: and patent backs and everything. It's all just showing they're 167 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: not getting anything done. They're just pledging more and more money, 168 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: which they don't have. That's Germany's Germany. 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: That's the fascination because you I know you do and 170 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: you've done have been very successful in international business, in 171 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: particular over in Europe. 172 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Can you give us a. 173 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Breakdown of the EU and those different countries where they're 174 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: at versus Russia. Where are they still buying Russian fuel? 175 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: Like economically, are they prepared to go to war in 176 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: the future. It doesn't seem like they are. 177 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: They're not because they are still buying Russian fuel. They're 178 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: buying it directly from Russia. And if they're not buying 179 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: it directly from Russia in order to you know, skirt 180 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: the sanctions, it goes Tozikstan and they do what they 181 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: call a mix, right, a blend, and they'll take one 182 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: percent Kazak oil and put it in a barrel of 183 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: ninety nine percent Russian oil and call it Kazakh oil. 184 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: And they've they've been doing that since the war starting. 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: And I'm in that trade, oil and gas trade, so 186 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: we know what we know that's what they're doing, and 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: that's that's an open secret. So they're spending billions of 188 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: dollars a month on Russian energy and they're they're they're, they're, 189 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: you know, of course, for Trump, this is the perfect 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to tell them, you know, American energy, right, So 191 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: that's that's where he's leveraging this at. But still it's 192 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: it's not enough. They need this Russian energy, and so 193 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: they're behold they're basically financing their own enemy when they're 194 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: buying the fuels. Well, think about it, they're sending him money. 195 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: He's putting money into weapons of shooting back at him. 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: It's it's crazy and that just shows you right there, 197 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: what kind of game this is. This is not about 198 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: winning sovereignty of Ukraine. It's not about you know, the 199 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Ukrainian liberty. The people are suffering are the Ukrainians. My wife, 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, her parents, their house is gone. You know, 201 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: we're here with us now in ty. We brought him 202 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: out it, We brought them out of Ukraine, brought him here. 203 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Her apartments there, windows are blown out, doors are blown out, 204 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: but her apartment's still there. Who knows if it'll ever 205 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: be in places she's in Kharkief from Harkiev. The Ukrainian 206 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: are suffering, and no one's doing. 207 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Anything about it. 208 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about oh yeah, you know, and you know 209 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: is fly by Ukraine. You don't know jack about what's 210 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: going on over there. When you say that, because the 211 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Ukrainians are like, yeah, they do something. If you care 212 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: about us, then do something. But you're not doing anything. 213 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: You're basically bolstering a puppet, a guy who's an actor, 214 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: and all of the all of the European Union leadership, 215 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to say the Europeans, but the European 216 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: Union leadership from the line and her dwarfs that are 217 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: out there trying to, you know, drive us into war 218 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: no matter what. And there's a plan in place, there's 219 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: a paper, there's a draft, everything's in place by twenty 220 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: twenty nine to go full out war with Russia, and 221 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: now they're trying to speed it up. 222 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 223 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: You know, I watched the video that you posted with 224 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: your wife, and I was incredibly. 225 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: Moved by that. 226 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: You know, I mean when you hear somebody from the region, 227 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, really kind of say, hey, this is not 228 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: what we want, we want peace. 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That's right free month if 257 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: you switch today, right, that's patriotmobile dot com, Ford slash 258 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Rutherford r. 259 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: U t h E R F O R D or 260 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: call nine seven to Patriot. 261 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Stephen, you posted this video about Victor Orbun and 262 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: said that you had lived there. Can you describe the 263 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: importance of hungry and preventing full scale war in the Balkans? 264 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: Well, to put it bluntly, it's history. If you look 265 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: at Hungary, it used to be the Hungarian Austrian Empire, right, 266 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: and then if you look at Serbia, they were split up, you, 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: Slavia was split up. All of these Balkans, the Slavics 268 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: and the Baltic states, they were all split up and 269 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: gutted and raped from Western powers. And they didn't forget that. 270 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: And Orbon specifically started out as a student and protesting 271 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: and he became then prime minister, you know, and then 272 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: he was unseated for a couple of years and he came back. 273 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: He's been there since twenty ten and he's a very 274 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: strong Stauns conservative. Yeah, there's corruption in his in his government, 275 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: just like everywhere else. You know, they built like, like 276 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, like eighteen football stadiums or you know, 277 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: soccer stadiums in one year because it was like a 278 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: like a tax thing or something. But you know, people 279 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: like to look at the things that are bad. But 280 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: this is what I see when I go to Hungary 281 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: and we go every two weeks or every two months, 282 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: because we still got a place there. I'm going to 283 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: go there. It's homogeneous, there's no crime, there's no immigrant 284 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: gangs on the streets that are running after people. Now 285 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: if I go to Berlin, a whole different story. I'm 286 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: going to Berlin, I'm like this the whole time. If 287 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: I had a wap in my hand, will be on 288 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: it all the time. That's Berlin, right, Or if you 289 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: go to Brussels, if you go to Holland, UK especially 290 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: right right right now, it's a bad place to be. 291 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: And the East is like the central Eastern Europe, Hungary 292 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: and those guys and partially Slovakia, right it's fighting against 293 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: Poland half. You know, they got a globalist in their half. 294 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: Half global they're they're fighting it. And Maloney, I still look, 295 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 3: the cards are still out on me for for the 296 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: Prime minister. Videaly. We're just in Italy two weeks ago 297 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 3: and did a video there and ended up on the 298 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: front page of the newspaper because we did it with 299 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: an activist down there. She's playing both sides, it seems 300 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: like to me. She's very strong talker, but she seems 301 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: to playing both sides. But in the end, this war 302 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: that will be fought will be fought if it's fought, 303 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: and let's pray that it doesn't. It will be fought 304 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: in the Balkans, the Slavic and the Baltic states because 305 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: they are what the EU leadership calls expendables, and it's 306 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: just a shame because they are. They haven't been what's 307 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: the word shoyanized. I don't know what the word is, 308 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: but they don't have the dei and all that. 309 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Kind of. 310 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, yeah, so they they're still the men are 311 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: still men, and there's some hard ass my other truckers too. 312 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: I'll tell you. They don't take any ship from anybody, 313 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: and so they're they're standing strong. 314 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: You know. 315 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm praying for them, and I'm doing video specifically for 316 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: them to show them that the support is behind them. 317 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: However much help that's going to give, I don't know, 318 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: but the only thing that I see that we can 319 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: do is keep calling this out and more and more German. Specifically, 320 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: it's important for Germany because a lot of people don't 321 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: understand it Germany. When Germany falls, the EU falls. Germany 322 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: is the anchor of the EU economically and as far 323 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: as the powerhouse goes also optically and psychologically. France isn't 324 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: as big as they as they think they are. 325 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: So they're in serious problems. Anyways. 326 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think Marcone is going to 327 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: be able to hold that government much longer at all. 328 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're right on the present. Okay. 329 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: So there was a great interview that I watched with 330 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Scott Ritter, former military guy with Mario no Fall and 331 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: talks about the Russian territory as and there the tactics 332 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: of that JEORDI, could you pop up that map for me? 333 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: All right? 334 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: And when I look at this map, I see all 335 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: of the area that was in that vote. I think 336 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: it was the vote was in fifteen or sixteen after 337 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: the Mayden Revolution. Right off, battalion started attacking those regions 338 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: and then you know, I think Putin was just like, 339 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: all right, let's tell everybody what it is. This is 340 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: Russian speaking, this is our country. It's been our countries 341 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: and is you know his interview with Tucker since fifteen 342 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 343 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Or whatever he says. 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: And that's the way the Russians think about the world 345 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: and centuries, right. And when I look at that I 346 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: see them fully entrenched. They have, what I've heard in 347 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: some regions five defensive lines already established up along that line. 348 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: And I don't ever see those lines retracting. 349 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: I haven't for the last year and a half. 350 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: There were a couple of forays into some of those 351 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: northern regions. They pushed back a little bit, but then 352 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: quickly were overrun afterwards, when you look at that map 353 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: based on not only your understanding of you know, I mean, 354 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: you were Bronze Star winner in combat, so you understand tactics, 355 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: you understand what do you see when you look at 356 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: that map as it is right today? 357 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: I think I think the number one most consistent strategy 358 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: that Putin's been done this whole world, the number one 359 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: of the most important thing he's done is restraint. He 360 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: could have rolled over them like nobody's business. But remember, well, 361 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: let me ask you this. In the red zone there, 362 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: why is there no sort of resistance? Why is there 363 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: no revolution? Why is there no Ukrainians doing you know, 364 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 3: sort of attacks. Why is that because most of them 365 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: are Russian speaking. They want peace and they're okay with it, 366 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 3: right And like my wife, you know, she grew up 367 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: speaking Russian, she's Ukrainian, but she's you grew up speaking 368 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: Russi because she's Markoff and they speak Russian there, spoke 369 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: rushing there until they changed the law, and so you 370 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: can't do anymore. Anybody who couldn't speak Russian or couldn't 371 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: speak Ukrainian lost her job. Zelensky didn't even speak Russian. 372 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Right now, that's the funniest one story. 373 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: Speak Kreenian. And so you know, remember that those people 374 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: that are there, if they want to peace and they're 375 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: okay with it. Otherwise there'd be out, you know, there'd 376 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: be bombings and there'll be attacks and all kinds of stuff, 377 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: and there's not. There's peace on the on the you know, 378 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: on the Eastern Front, if you will. And so when 379 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: I see that, I see Pootin and saying, look, I'm 380 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: holding off here, I'm restraining myself. I could go further, 381 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: let's just end this and let's keep it right here. 382 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: But I'm not backing down. I'm keeping this border, like 383 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: I said I would, and the NATO, you're not coming closer. 384 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: If this is the border, then this is the border, 385 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: and that's the way. That's that's the way I see it. 386 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't see Ukraine making any forward movement now if 387 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: they bring tomahawks and there much. They haven't yet, And 388 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: as far as I know, the budget isn't there until 389 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: January February anyway, So we have a we have a 390 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: lull time between now and January. Everyone's going to freak 391 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: out in January. You watch, because they'll be the expenditures 392 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: are going to start exploding because the budgets are free, right, 393 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: And I'll be like, oh, it's just normal spending. It's 394 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: normal spending in January. It happens every year here in January, March, 395 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: first quarter, It'll happen all the time. So just watch 396 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: out for those fake puffs. And then of course you 397 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: have so you have a trajectory. Now the people of 398 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: the world, especially Europe are getting sick of this, so 399 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna starting to wake up. Then you have the 400 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: trajectory of the war coming, and the war's going to 401 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: come through false flag. Right. I know a guy in 402 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: the UK who's on one of the islands. I won't 403 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: mention it off the coast, and there's an old American 404 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: ship there just sort of like you know, set on 405 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: the sun on the rocks, and it's wired right now, 406 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: he said. And the trick is to say, oh, Russian 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: submarine blew it up, right. So they want to draw 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: UK and they want to draw the European Union. And 409 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: obviously they can't take a submarine into the into Central Europe. 410 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: It's impossible. But you know, so they're trying to find 411 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: a way the false flag is to death. And so far, 412 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: thank goodness, there's been enough resistance where all of the 413 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: false flag and there's been like four or five of them, 414 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: they've been blown off like oh no, no, no, that's 415 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: not really. We know that's not real. And then they 416 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: just hit, you know, the two refineries in three insluckis. 417 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's they're trying everything they can 418 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: to stay look at you know, Russia's bad. Now, when 419 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm talking this way, I get accused to being a 420 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: Russia Russia fobe all the time. I don't give a shit, 421 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: tell you truth. But here's here's the thing. If I'm 422 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: telling you something and it's in black and white next 423 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: to me, and I'm reading it to you, and it 424 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: just happens to be pro Russia or anti Europe or 425 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: the other way around. That doesn't mean that I'm taking size. 426 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: That just means this is what I see and this 427 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: is what I'm reporting, right. But to get that through 428 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: people's heads sometimes is really ridifud. I'm sure you've experienced yourself. 429 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: When you start talking about this stuff to get it 430 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: through people's heads, they don't even listen anymore. They shut down. 431 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: And that's one of the biggest problems we have is 432 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: no one listens anymore. They have a narrative that they believe. 433 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: They believe it with their life, and they have to 434 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: support feed and feed their bias and support it so 435 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: that they have something to believe in. And I just 436 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: on my platform, I just offer another way to look 437 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: at things. That's what I try to do, and so 438 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: it's really important to me. Look my wife, and first 439 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: of all, people make a joke about it. If my 440 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: in law has lived with me, i'd want the word 441 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: to be over to you know that's not the case. 442 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was funny when someone said that. But 443 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: they're suffering here, you know, we got them covered, you know, 444 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: we got them. We have a place in a car 445 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. But they have nothing. 446 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: They don't speak the language, and a job. They can't work. 447 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: They're both retired now and they have no way of 448 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 3: living their life. They want to go back, they want 449 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: to go home. They're even thinking about going home now 450 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, can't get nowhere to go? Yeah, but 451 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: we want to go home. They just want to go home. Wow, 452 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: that's the sentiment of most Ukrainians. And here's the worst 453 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: part of it all is in Ukraine, a lot of 454 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: Ukrainians they just want peace, but they believe the narrative 455 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: because there's only that narrative that Russia is bad and 456 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: losing and we're going to take over and we're going 457 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: to win. That's the only narrative that's in the Ukraine 458 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: right now. You can't there's no foreign press getting in there. 459 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: So it's also caused a big rift in families because, 460 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: for instance, my wife has ants and stuff in Russia. 461 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: Almost everyone in Ukraine has Russian relatives. At least in 462 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: the East, almost all of them are Russian relatives. That's 463 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: a lot of rift as well a lot of problems 464 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: with families that don't talk to each other anymore. It's 465 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 3: a big mess. They want peace, They just want to 466 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: live again, and unfortunately the Ukraine that they knew will 467 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: never exist again. 468 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, for sure that those are harsh realities that 469 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: I think all these conflicts except are are are determining 470 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: in your mind if if obviously I I agree with you, 471 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: I think this is a full effort to try and 472 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: generate a hot war in this area, for sure, because 473 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: I think they believe that if if, if, if they 474 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: can somehow engage Russia UH and pull Russia away from 475 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: an alliance with with China, UH, that that that somehow 476 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: brings the hegemony back to the globalists that exists within 477 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: the European Union. 478 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: And everyone talks about, you know, all the rare minerals 479 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: and the oil and again all this kind of stuff, 480 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: but in the end, it's all about the powers. The 481 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: biggest powers in the world can never work together. Only 482 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: two at a time, that's right, right, you two at 483 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: a time. So and that's you know, the British Crown 484 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: drilled in the wedge between everybody all the. 485 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: Time, all the time, yep, And they push it on the. 486 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: Blue and White guys you know from Israel. Oh it's 487 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: Israeli's this Israelis. They're always pushing on the Israelis when 488 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: in fact, one one step above them, you have the 489 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: British Crown and the British crounded all the people involved 490 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: in that. And it's it's just it's it's terrible. It's 491 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: it's it's absolutely horrible because every single day we have 492 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: no we have no recourse. All we can do is 493 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: talk about it right now, right and elect elections of 494 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: people running for election. You forget about it. We need 495 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: citizen leaders in every country. We need citizen leaders that 496 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: step up like they did in Iceland. I don't know 497 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: if you if you know about that where they just 498 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: walked in and said, you guys are done, we're taking over. 499 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: No one gets paid. You got to work your normal job, 500 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: run your company, and then you run the run the 501 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, the government on the side. You know, it's 502 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: like totally you know, that's how I did it. So 503 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 3: we need citizen leadership. The world needs citizen leadership. And 504 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: with Victor Obon in Hungary, yes, you know, some people 505 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: say is corrupt. I consulted their government when it when 506 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice went there to try to 507 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: unseat him with oodles and noodles of money from the 508 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: Sorels Foundation, the Open found Open Society and WRBON just 509 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: kicked him out. He kicked out the Free University, that 510 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: sort of the European University, the Foundation, all of his 511 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 3: NGO's kicked them all out, just like he kicked him 512 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 3: on Santo out. He kicked them out of the get 513 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: out of the country. He a lot of people were 514 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: mad at him because what he did is he nationalized 515 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: private insurance, private pensions like four roll one k's. Everybody 516 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: went up in arms. What he did with that money 517 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: is he paid off the IMF and kicked them out. 518 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: That's why he can do what he does. He's not 519 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: beholding right. 520 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: That seems very dangerous. 521 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: That seems to always be the key that these a 522 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: lot of these countries, they get into bed with the IMF, 523 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: They get these huge loans going for all infrastructure or 524 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: whether their their pension funds are tied to some international 525 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: asset management company, whatever it might be, right, they control, 526 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, because they give up their proxy voting shares. 527 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: What my what I see though, is every time I 528 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: see a man on the street interview with about young 529 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: people from these areas, and they ask, will you go 530 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 2: fight in Ukraine? I don't ever see I don't see people, 531 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: you know, the Irish saying yeah, I'm going, the English Chane, definitely, 532 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: the Germans, there's no way they're going, right, you know 533 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: after I mean, you know, and and then all those 534 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: other countries. 535 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: It's a joke. 536 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: So who does the European Union think they're gonna get 537 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: to fight this war? 538 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: You're looking at them. You were there there, right, you 539 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: were there. 540 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: I just wanted to hear you say it, but man, 541 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: I just wanted you to say it. 542 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and it's it's there there. You know. I 543 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: hope Trump shows restrained as well, because we cannot do this. 544 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: We cannot do this, We can't, you know. And here's 545 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: the thing is that without without soldiers, without people, there's 546 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: no emotional connection to war, There's no heroes, there's no 547 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: stories and stuff like that. So it'll be it'll be 548 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: sort of a technocratic war and it won't mean anything 549 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 3: to anybody, which is almost worse because the no one 550 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: pays attention to it. 551 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 552 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's such a crazy timer and not 553 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: only because of the war, but also because of the 554 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: changes that we're seeing with AI and all this kind 555 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: of stuff where we could almost fight a war and 556 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: with no people at all. 557 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: It's close. 558 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: It's robots, AI, drones, all that stuff, you know. So 559 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a scary place to be. 560 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: And right here, I mean in Turkey, we live on 561 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: the mad literally one hundred feet from here. As a 562 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: Mediterranean every day fighter jets you know, I love it, 563 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: but you know, this is a vacation place where people 564 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: come to the vacaved the fifth most visited city on the planet, 565 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: right and there's another's fighter jets flying over here, and 566 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 3: there's no there's a specific reason for that. 567 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's changing, man, it's changing. 568 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: And then Americas, bless our soul, we're still so far 569 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: away from all this that it's you know, we have 570 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: enough stuff going on home as ourselves that unfortunately it 571 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: goes you know, falls under the rug too often. And 572 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: it's just for me. It's almost like an like a dude. 573 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: I always felt like, I'm sure you did too. As 574 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: a military man. And then after I got out, I've 575 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: been away from the States for you know, on and 576 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: off for thirty seven years. 577 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 578 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: And I always feel like I'm an ambassador, so I 579 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: have to act right, you know, do do business right, 580 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: high integrity, speak clearly, always be the ambassador for America 581 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: as a civilian as as as as a contractor, as 582 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: a business guy. And I've been invited on Turkish TV. 583 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: I've been you know, spoken to you on the streets 584 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 3: and hey, wow, you know what's it really like? Thank 585 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: you so much on those kind of things. And if 586 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: everyone did that and we would just quick bitching at 587 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: each other and complaining and left and right front and center, 588 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: man this place where this would be ended real quick, 589 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: because you know, we are so many more than they are, 590 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: so many. 591 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: More, so many more. Well, Steve, and I can't thank 592 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: you enough for your time. Where can people follow you, 593 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: pay attention to what you're doing and then also tell 594 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: us about your business and then the book that you 595 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: wrote to please sure? 596 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: So you can find me almost on any channel, Stephen 597 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: Eugene kon k u h N, whether it's Instagram, TikTok, 598 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: although TikTok's got me. I used to do, you know, 599 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: two videos a week over a million views. Now it's 600 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: like I'm lucky if I get five thousand, they've really 601 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: dial it down. Instagram, TikTok x, I don't know what 602 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: it is. Stephen Coon, Stephen something or other, you'll find 603 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: me and then linked Lincoln as well, Steve and Eugene. 604 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: My business we have, you know, a few businesses. My 605 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: wife has a few businesses, but the core businesses we 606 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: raise capital through a growth advisory for you know, different 607 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: different projects, whether it's green you know, solar energy, hydrogen, 608 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: we do some lifestyle brands in the States and things 609 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: like that. We've done my partner and I've done two 610 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: point seventy one billion this year so far. Wow. And 611 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: we're quite successful at that. Well, quite successful that because 612 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: we have urgency, and that's just everything's about urgency. And 613 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: right now people are saying, oh, it's hard to get money. 614 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: It's the easiest time to get money that I've ever 615 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: had in my entire life because people want to secure 616 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: the apt and the capital with assets in cases of crash. 617 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: So right now it's a better time, the best time 618 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: in many to get the money. And then if anybody 619 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: wants pick up my book, Unleash, You're Humble Alpha. This 620 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: book is it's a step by step guide and building 621 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: a foundation where you become one hundred percent of certain 622 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: in your abilities to deploy your genius in any given situation, 623 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: where you become unstoppable. And it's it's not a joke either. 624 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: It's actually in about ten universities in America as a 625 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: curriculum right now. Harvard and Stanford are looking at it 626 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: as well. I didn't write it for that, it just 627 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: came out that way. Well, so it's a it's a 628 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: pleasure to be on I really, I really appreciate it, David. 629 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: I was surprised that you wrote me, and I'm glad 630 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: you did. 631 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you very much. Your insights are phenomenal. 632 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: You you're very wise guy, and uh you're you're you're humble, 633 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: and you're gracious about how you spread your wisdom and 634 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: so uh hopefully my audience will follow you and and 635 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: and continue to pay attention and and keep up the 636 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 2: motivational stuff too. By the way, I love when smart 637 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: men give motivational advice. 638 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: To thank you so much saying me, I can't help it, 639 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: and I'm sure you're the same. 640 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, God bless you. 641 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: Take care, take care,