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Speaker 1: My next guest is an award winning legal journalists, victims

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Speaker 1: a digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, highlights missing people,

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Speaker 1: new book, Don't Be a Victim, Fighting Back against America's

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Speaker 1: true crime Fighter Nancy Race. Wow, that was some intro.

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Speaker 1: I'm very flattered, but I'm also very honored to be

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Speaker 1: I remembered all these parents, all these families, all these victims,

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Speaker 1: families that I would talk to over the course of

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Speaker 1: bus stops, and school routes. That number scared me because

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Speaker 1: your child going to the bus stop. You could have

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Speaker 1: been there to walk to your child from the bus stop.

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Speaker 1: And seeing your child goes to on a school route

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Speaker 1: the same thing. So these things right here the frustrating

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Speaker 1: ilse And that's the tragic part about these timelines. Correct, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it really is. Can I tell you how up into

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Speaker 1: the twins school I am. I take them, I take

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Speaker 1: them up, uh drive through there at different times of

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Speaker 1: the day throughout the week, and I'm out in the

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Speaker 1: car and about Oh yes, I am all up in it.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly where their classes are, which window goes

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Speaker 1: to them, the works. I know it may sound a

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Speaker 1: little bit overboard to a lot of people, but after

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Speaker 1: the least like dude to try to keep tabs on

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Speaker 1: them and keep them safe. Well, you know, I wanted

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Speaker 1: just that's why I wanted to bring the book into

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Speaker 1: the frame. It's because you said, doing what you do

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Speaker 1: this book because you know, this book is about every

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Speaker 1: for everybody, every regular, every parent or anybody who's not

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Speaker 1: going to college, if you you're a young person who's

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Speaker 1: about to start their professional life, this book has a

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Speaker 1: section in it that you should read. That's how important

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Speaker 1: this book is. And more importantly about this book is

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Speaker 1: that she shines a light on don't create conference zone

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Speaker 1: for yourself. Or you feel it's all right, you can

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Speaker 1: drop your guard because she mentions, you know, especially in kids,

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Speaker 1: where attack can happen in brand name places like McDonald's,

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Speaker 1: not like Chick fil A. Not that she's trying to

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Speaker 1: shine a negative light on it. She's just letting you

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Speaker 1: know that in this world that we live in, you

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Speaker 1: cannot be comfortable, especially with your children, especially with yourself.

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Speaker 1: Where you at a fancy high flude mall and your

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Speaker 1: crime it never happened over here. Well, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be the person that the crime happens too, because

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Speaker 1: you decided to drop your car. That was a story

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Speaker 1: that you resonated throughout the each page, and it came

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Speaker 1: across very loud and clear, and and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: thank you for doing that because that was important to me,

486
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Speaker 1: because I said, let me, let me, let me look

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Speaker 1: And that read about the little girl, Nicole, the thirteen

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Speaker 1: year old old girl the cold and Natalie keepers the

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Speaker 1: little track storeboard. David Eisenhower. I went, Wow, these stories

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. She was just keep keep keep,

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Speaker 1: and she had lived there so much. Statistically medically she

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Speaker 1: shouldn't lift. She did. And then just as she's turning

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Speaker 1: into a team everything's going good, she meets up with

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Speaker 1: real named David Eisenhower. Yea. And Natalee Capers his girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and um, she thought she the little girl thought she

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Speaker 1: had a boyfriend. And this was a grown man in

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Speaker 1: college and he did not want anyone to find out

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Speaker 1: about this sex relationship. So he killed a little girl.

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Speaker 1: He killed her and that's it. And then you didn't agree.

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Speaker 1: Now that's the chapter. Would you know that we talked

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Speaker 1: about the cyber threats with little little John David and

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Speaker 1: Nicholas of our story where you had to follow him

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Speaker 1: in the room and look over his shoulder and he Mommy,

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Speaker 1: don't be looking over my show you will this, Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: I mean your mom what you what you read in

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Speaker 1: their phone? And that's what we have to do with

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Speaker 1: our kids. We have to evade their privacies sometimes, Miss Grace.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what happened the other day. We're

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Speaker 1: all anti camping. We're all about and like my my

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Speaker 1: daughter Lucy, I told you she's a scout. I don't

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Speaker 1: mean the kind of go out and sell cookies. She

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Speaker 1: goes out in camp. She can pitch a tent, you

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Speaker 1: can start a fire, no works. So anyway, even now

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Speaker 1: has set up his camping he has set up his

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Speaker 1: camping tent in his bedroom and he will get in

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Speaker 1: it and watch his screen from the hammock. So I

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Speaker 1: can't see what he's watching. So long story short, I said,

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Speaker 1: what are you watch his son? And he said some

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Speaker 1: Japanese name. Oh, dear lord. I thought it's Japanese pornography.

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Speaker 1: Well guess what it is. It's anime, right, my daughter

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Speaker 1: does that. Yes, sci fi anime thriller, kind of like Marvel.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so once again I've called him being good. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know he's he's a he's a funny uh. Trail

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Speaker 1: through the book because of the fact that it reminds me,

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Speaker 1: just talks about your parent, and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm talking about You're just an open person. You're

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Speaker 1: an open book. You're saying that these situations happened to me.

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Speaker 1: You may see me as being famous. You may say,

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Speaker 1: I think I have a lot of money, but I

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Speaker 1: still have the parents. And as a parent, it's seven

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Speaker 1: it's seven days a week, it's twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 1: and I don't care whether you would wealthy or you're struggling.

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Speaker 1: You have to be focused. Now the book shifts now

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Speaker 1: the first part one, Part two is really about your child.

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Speaker 1: Part two on got to the adult side of the book,

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Speaker 1: which I really like. Why was it important to do

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Speaker 1: the you know, the protecting yourself travel safe because part

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Speaker 1: one in part two because has been a separate book

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Speaker 1: by itself, Nancy, But then you say you're something. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give them a book that when they walk and talk. Anybody,

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Speaker 1: the teenager can have this book. They can lie the young,

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Speaker 1: they can preach knowledge to the young children. And also

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Speaker 1: if they decided to travel as adults, they can have that.

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Speaker 1: Why you decided to put it all in one book.

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Speaker 1: So many that they comes that I've represented in court

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Speaker 1: have been children, but I would say an equal amount

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Speaker 1: has been adults. And the cases I've covered, so many

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Speaker 1: missing women, missing team, missing college students. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you go to college, you think you know everything. You

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Speaker 1: don't know anything, and so many especially girls faull pray

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Speaker 1: at college and the other day, Um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: work home my Hallmark movies and they are born out

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Speaker 1: of character I created when I moved to New York

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Speaker 1: to launch a show with the late great Johnny Cochrane.

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Speaker 1: He would go off. He was the toast of the town.

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Speaker 1: He would go off after our show, which was at night,

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Speaker 1: and I knew nobody. I go home to my old apartment.

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Speaker 1: I was alone. I started writing this book. So a lady,

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Speaker 1: a very dear friend of mine, Liz, that I worked

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Speaker 1: on the Hallmark shows with son went away to college

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Speaker 1: while we were working on one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the movies, and she was so worried about him. And

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Speaker 1: to enforce ed basically booze until he died at a

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Speaker 1: frat party. She was so afraid for her son. And

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Speaker 1: I got to thinking about John, David and Lucy going

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Speaker 1: away to college. I don't like thinking about it, but

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about all the things that could happen

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Speaker 1: to them, and all the times I go running, or

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Speaker 1: I take the twins walking with me or biking with me,

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Speaker 1: and all the cases I've covered where women were out

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Speaker 1: jogging or biking or leaving their dorm or people my

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Speaker 1: age out and about walking and jogging and how dangerous

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Speaker 1: it is, and how many times do you pull up

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Speaker 1: at a red light. This is a chilling thought to me,

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Speaker 1: because I know the stats on how many people are

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Speaker 1: out on part and in parole. They can't all be

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Speaker 1: hiding in some area of town. They are out with

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Speaker 1: you at them all at the grocery store, in the

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Speaker 1: parking lot, at the red light. Hey, when you don't

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Speaker 1: they want offend again? They will. They will offend again

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Speaker 1: and are sitting by you at the red light. That

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Speaker 1: made me think about driving and what happens when you're

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Speaker 1: in a car, and how to stay safe, and what

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Speaker 1: do if somebody has a road rage. There's just so

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Speaker 1: many things to think about, and I want to address

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Speaker 1: them because I have addressed them, not only in this book,

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Speaker 1: but in court. Wow, don't be a victim Fighting back

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Speaker 1: out of my driveway. I can't protect her. All I

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Speaker 1: can do is just provided with information that hopefully she

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Speaker 1: will make the right decision. Nancy, and you've given me

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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you. Friends, we talked soon, alright, get

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Speaker 1: Curry clein Clean, clin Clean, clin clean, clin Clean. Make

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Speaker 1: we really do? We really do? Mark? We do? You know?

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Speaker 1: The car, the house? You know? When I started this

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Speaker 1: I hopefully I won't make the mistakes or I'm making

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Speaker 1: the advice I heard on my show and when I

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian, you know what that we we we

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Speaker 1: COVID ninteen here in March. How did that affect you?

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Speaker 1: And how did how that affect me? We can't even

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Speaker 1: it affected me because if you look at Indian industry

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Speaker 1: that has been affected, the comedy industry has been devastated.

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Speaker 1: There's no industry has been devastated. Here. Just think this, sir,

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Speaker 1: I was doing. I was about to do um um.

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Speaker 1: It's not coming back. It's done. So here I am

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Speaker 1: in the world. Financially. I know that you've got to

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Speaker 1: so here I am. I don't know what to do?

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Speaker 1: You know, I I panic the first couple of months.

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Speaker 1: And I said, okay, where do I get in? Where

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Speaker 1: do I fit in it? It's gonna be virtual, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a virtual situation. Uh you know what am

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Speaker 1: I gonna do? But I mean, I've been devastated, devastated.

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Speaker 1: So just let you know. In the in the money

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Speaker 1: the business. So here I am. I know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: good comedian. I'm like, what damn, what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I said, well, you know what, something's gonna come out

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Speaker 1: So there was hope. So I was like, okay, where

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Speaker 1: I gonna do? So I'm thinking virtual comedy is gonna

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Speaker 1: I just got myself and I just started writing. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I think the best comedian is gonna win. So that's

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Speaker 1: all I did, you know, the only thing I can do.

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Speaker 1: And then I had to change my business. I said,

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Speaker 1: I started looking at everything. I even looked at marijuana production.

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Speaker 1: and said, well how much do you make on this thing?

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Speaker 1: You know? I called everything I can do? You know?

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Speaker 1: Was that tied to like just real talk, you know,

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Speaker 1: it affected my pocket, but affected me mentally on how

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Speaker 1: And I got back to the car. I didn't I

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Speaker 1: Is my sterel wheel gonna be safe? Did it really

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Speaker 1: get into your head? Was I just want of those

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Speaker 1: people that just reacted to out of control about it? Well,

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Speaker 1: it got into my head. But I am a you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at you know, I'm almost like a story.

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Speaker 1: and I stayed at home. I didn't go anywhere. I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. I'm just gonna stay at home.

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Speaker 1: And it mentally, mentally it affected me. It didn't affect

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Speaker 1: me till later, you know, till later on. So four

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Speaker 1: or five months later, I'm like, man, what is going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: This could this could endure for a month? You know.

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Speaker 1: I put my faith into the American government, the American

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Speaker 1: We have enough money to fight anything. So I said,

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Speaker 1: of it. But now we have devicesness. We have political

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Speaker 1: It is as frustrated and that you hear that. And

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Speaker 1: gonna go. But it is frustrating because we're in an

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Speaker 1: and you know, and it affects minorities are black and

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Speaker 1: you know, it puts you in a position of who

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Speaker 1: to believe in, who to trust right exactly, and where

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Speaker 1: are you at on that whole trusting thing, because it

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Speaker 1: does impact how you move forward as a comedian, as

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Speaker 1: right now. I just trust myself. I cannot trust. I

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Speaker 1: to do a show a matter of fact, Labor Day

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Speaker 1: But then I was looking at the peak. I was

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Speaker 1: I don't my thing? Is this what I would like.

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Speaker 1: I would like to know what my chances are. And

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Speaker 1: that's your government should tell you that. I just you

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Speaker 1: not telling me the truth. I mean, not telling me

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Speaker 1: but my god, I just want to know how to

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Speaker 1: that exactly, and knowing I had to call my doctor

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Speaker 1: It's really amazing because you know, stand up comedy is

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Speaker 1: different perspective and just twisted put our twist off, and

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Speaker 1: that that's how and and and I'm gonna tell you, man,

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Speaker 1: just from an outside looking at you, you've always been,

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Speaker 1: uh a guy that I always looked back or I

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Speaker 1: would have never thought of that choke you. You've always

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00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: been one of those I would have never thought of

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Speaker 1: that joke guy when I look at And that's and

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Speaker 1: that's how I write, suh. I write, I don't write.

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Speaker 1: When I write, I write to jump down. And if

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Speaker 1: it sounds like everybody else I talked to out trying

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Speaker 1: to come from the different, I ain't gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, almost like an investing I would be the

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Speaker 1: one to invest in something that somebody said, well, why

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Speaker 1: are you investment in that? Why are you investing in

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Speaker 1: the straps that hold the masks together? Right? No one

863
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Speaker 1: else is doing that because no one else is doing right.

864
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Speaker 1: And so so you know, and I say that, you

865
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Speaker 1: know because of the fact that you know, you know,

866
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Speaker 1: But one time I felt I was one of the

867
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Speaker 1: top guys out there, and I come along and I

868
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Speaker 1: see you and I still see you, and I go,

869
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: what is what? What? What are you? What? Are you

870
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Speaker 1: looking at stuff through one curve when you're when you

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Speaker 1: know what? You know like that you know what? You

872
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know we could we could, you're not could

874
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Speaker 1: walk in the room. And uh, one of the all

875
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Speaker 1: time you probably remember one of the all time funny

876
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: moments I had with you when we was at Denny's restaurant, Me, you,

877
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Speaker 1: George Wallace and and we are we're closed down that place.

878
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Speaker 1: And I always remember how from an improvisational standpoint, you

879
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Speaker 1: are incredible, and I just it is locked in my

880
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Speaker 1: memory in Hollywood, US just JF it was Jathony Brown,

881
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Speaker 1: it was you, it was me, and it was George

882
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Speaker 1: Wallace and we left that myth that dinner is at

883
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Speaker 1: four two o'clock in the morning, and and and it

884
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: was just watching you sit over there, going, he's doing

885
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Speaker 1: stuff I could not do. I can't because you were

886
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Speaker 1: in the same dunnas. Now we're the same we all

887
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: even the same food, but you're looking at it through

888
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: a different eye. Mark Curry, Why why why are you

889
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: looking at it from a different eye, well, because of it.

890
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: When I do. When I do a joke, I don't

891
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: write the joke. A lot of guys write the joke,

892
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: and that's why they a lot of times they jokes

893
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: don't be funny because they forced the joke. But what

894
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: I do is I researched the joke, and my material

895
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: is based on If you see anything I say, it's

896
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: based on facts and research. So for example, we're talking

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00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: about whatever the subject is, black people and money, Black

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Speaker 1: people and money. Okay, bam, you will will do the

899
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Speaker 1: joke because black people, they'll take black people. I wur

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Speaker 1: to realize they've been a short change black people? Come

901
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: back in? How much it again? When I came in

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Speaker 1: there had pointing right, and then I got chuck for

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Speaker 1: you because I hold him that and I put that money.

904
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Speaker 1: How must think? How must let me go back here?

905
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Speaker 1: But got back? How much with it? Not? How much

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00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: with the cheeses? Let me go to a change lake?

907
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: The white person? No instantly, just a minute? How much

908
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: the tacks on this? What was the three seventeen? I

909
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: had three of them right? That should have been a fortnite. Yeah,

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00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I think some something's wrong here oh, okay, okay, Mark, Okay,

911
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: that's funny though it's true. That's what I'm laughing because

912
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: again you've taken my engineer. He laughing too, you know,

913
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Speaker 1: in the other side of the room, and he's shaking

914
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Speaker 1: his head, was laughing because you know, it's true, because

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Speaker 1: it's through that lens that you are are sitting there

916
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Speaker 1: and and observing and and that, like I said, in

917
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Speaker 1: that Denny's restaurant, you know, we're all were being served

918
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Speaker 1: the same food. But I'm just looking at your craze

919
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: behind going how did he see that? What he's running

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Speaker 1: through his mind? Because when I when I see something,

921
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Speaker 1: I'm did leave size it up as a joke, so

922
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Speaker 1: I look at it and I break it down. I'm

923
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Speaker 1: not educated, but I'm an internet guy. So if i'm

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Speaker 1: if I'm searching, if we talk about money, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. It'll

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Speaker 1: help me with my facts. For example, I'll look up

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Speaker 1: black people and money. The first black people with money

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Speaker 1: and they seen hundred and then I'll look at black institutions,

952
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Speaker 1: black owned banks, so blood of the So when I

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Speaker 1: have a prethra of all kind of material that I

954
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Speaker 1: may not use, but at least my attitude and and

955
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is based on some kind of facts.

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00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: And then I'll throw a little fact because you know,

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00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: black people, we didn't we didn't have banks back then.

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Speaker 1: What the hell did we do? We couldn't go to

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Speaker 1: the back. Think about that. Black people didn't go to

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00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: the bank the nineteen seventy. Think about that nineteen seventy.

961
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: And when you walk in the steel, look that you crazy,

962
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: because they look at you crazy right now. Don't walk

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Speaker 1: into a belly Hills bank right now. They just get

964
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Speaker 1: you like you, Craig, can we help you? This is

965
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Speaker 1: a bank and that feels that can't be healthy. So

966
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: imagine banking back then. Banking back then was none existed.

967
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: You gave me their money. They they we don't happen

968
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Speaker 1: no more. What happened to it? It's gone there. Nothing

969
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: you can do do you look at things kind of thing,

970
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: nothing you can do. So you know that's what my

971
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: comedy I tried to be. I try to come from

972
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: a different angle makes me Yeah, And I try to

973
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: be educated. I try not to be stereotypic. I try

974
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: not to hurt another race as we're talking about, because

975
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: you gotta look at people who pay their money. White

976
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: people pay their money, Black people, Filipino, Chinese. If I

977
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: went to those two in committe, don't give who it

978
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: is and he said something about some black people, I'm

979
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: just I'm done. I don't care. I'm just interested in him.

980
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: I want to go. I want to go, just like

981
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: that Asian person would say the same thing, just like

982
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: that white person. You go to a black show, and

983
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: black comedians make the white people oh my. But know

984
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: that this week, you know, even when Bush, for example,

985
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: when Bush was in and talked about but I had

986
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: to find a way to talk about but but for

987
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: my white patrons that paid that money also so they

988
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel uncomfortable. Right, So your your show is always

989
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: encompassing and all they thought provoking. And that's really Yeah,

990
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to talk to you about it,

991
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, you know, this this

992
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: platform that I have. Now, you know, I've been blessed

993
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: because everybody's coming on the show and and talking allowed

994
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: me to just talk and in my conversation don't have

995
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: any agenda tie to other than a conversational about success

996
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: and conversation about how we approach your way of being

997
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and making money. And that's what money making

998
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: conversation is all about. Now, you said November you're gonna

999
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: get back out there. What is that plan of getting

1000
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: back out there are you? Are you starting to schedule

1001
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: day or you maybe doing some tours or I'm gonna start.

1002
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start at a comedy club

1003
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Speaker 1: that's outside two days at the end of September, like

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Speaker 1: September twenty seven time E t s in um Danville.

1005
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna just I'm not gonna gonna go

1006
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: up and just I don't know what I'm gonna talk

1007
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: about because I don't I don't have I don't want

1008
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: to talk about this corona. I just don't. I don't

1009
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: even want talk about I don't want to hear that.

1010
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something socially, a whole new start.

1011
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go in and get my head right

1012
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: and come up with a whole new When I say,

1013
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: a whole new way of thinking, for example, presidency. I'm

1014
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: gonna run for presidents then, so I want you to

1015
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: ask me what if I'm if I'm running for presidents,

1016
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: asking me the question that you would ask the president then,

1017
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: because I'm I think I'm gonna do a new special

1018
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: on that. So right now, this is live. I'm Mark Curry.

1019
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm here, this is live. This is non scripted. Mark.

1020
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I hear you running for president. I'm just gonna ask

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: you right now, um um, some some people don't want

1022
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: to wear a mask. Should we wear a mask? Mark Curry?

1023
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: Does a mask? Y, Sir? Does a mask makes a difference? Yes?

1024
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: I think a mask definitely makes a difference. If I

1025
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Speaker 1: was president, everybody would wear a mask. It's just the

1026
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: way it is. Even the dogs lose. The animals in

1027
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: the zoo would wear a mask. Mask would be mandatory. Yes,

1028
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: I got to wear a mask. I would keep people in.

1029
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: I would keep people in for another year I was president.

1030
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: Nobody come out for a year. One year, okay, Mr, Mr,

1031
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: Mr President. Not only we wear a mask, Mr. Apologize,

1032
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: you're not president yet, but you're running for president. Don't

1033
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: want to jump ahead. Don't want to jump ahead. Okay.

1034
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: The vaccine, the vaccine. Okay, it comes out, Will you

1035
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: be the first in line to take it? No, I

1036
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Speaker 1: would not. We will took those on death rows. We

1037
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: will get those on death rows that have been convicted

1038
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: of a crime. And we know that that crime. We

1039
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: know that they did it by video. Now you know

1040
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: in DNA, we know you did and you killed six people.

1041
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: We're about to inject you with a vaccine. Sir, and

1042
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: when the people protest, let them protest. We want you

1043
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: to we this is terrible. We agree. Take us the court,

1044
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: so those on death row would be the first one

1045
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: to get the vaccine, and it would be on live video.

1046
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: You can see the reaction. What happened? So, okay, being

1047
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: that you are maybe the second black president of the

1048
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: United States, and we saw how this state, this country

1049
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: was happy. Then it became angered that there was a

1050
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: black president. How would you stop this country from becoming angry?

1051
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Origin by you becoming the second president black president of

1052
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: the United States. I cannot stop this country from being angry.

1053
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: America was built on anger. If you look at America,

1054
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: America has been built on anger. Where you know, so

1055
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be angry at me. Of course they're gonna

1056
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: be angry at me. But that's nothing I can't I

1057
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: can't worry about that. I got things that will help healthcare.

1058
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: For example, when you go to the airport and you

1059
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: go to the X ray, we'll use those x rays.

1060
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Why you gotta go to X rays? You go to

1061
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: the airport, We're gonna use those X rays to determine

1062
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: what is wrong with you. So when we're gonna stop

1063
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: you excuse me, what do that? You found some water?

1064
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Now we found the tumor. Step over here place you

1065
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: can't get on this flight? You know, I think the

1066
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: plane should be Yeah, hospital should be at the airport.

1067
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: That's what most people are am I right in the

1068
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: hospital at the airport. Let's be real here the homeless.

1069
00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Let's look at the homeless. Stoppant, stop stop you still

1070
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: wait a minute? Last homeless. I could deal with the homeless.

1071
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: Let them be extras in the movie. Let them do

1072
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: the same thing they're doing. Walk up and don't let

1073
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: them walk around. They can walk around in the background.

1074
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Let him get paid it back after that way they

1075
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: got help. Wake up America. You need Mark curious President

1076
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Mark Um, I ain't gonna lie to you, brother, fantastic.

1077
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: That was all their problems. You didn't know what you

1078
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: didn't know what question. We didn't prepare. This is great

1079
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: coming along and uh, I ask you, Lenna, ask you

1080
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: something because Batley Evan's gonna be managed if I bring

1081
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: you on this show. Don't talk about in the cut.

1082
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: And you know I know Bentley from Jamie Fox show

1083
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I was co executive do so to the show. I

1084
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: would tell Bentley one of the people who are made

1085
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: my career, one of the two lunch pins in my

1086
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: success story has been in Hollywood. Now you're in the cut.

1087
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: How did you get How did that opportunity to come

1088
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: to you and getting into the cast like the Badley

1089
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: Bentley called my agents. He said, Mark, I want Mark

1090
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: him do this role. I love bent Me. I know

1091
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Bentley well. Some of my best worker has been with

1092
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: Billy Jamie Fox as Sergeant Easy with Bentley. When I

1093
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: was on Martin and Martin as a lawyer, that was

1094
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: with Bentley. So Bidley knows me. He's a he's he's

1095
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: a genius. And not only that, he's a great director

1096
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: because he lets you go when you go on it's no,

1097
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: he's not directing you to do this and do that.

1098
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: It's basically, you know you you're an actor, and so

1099
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Billy's an actor, actor, director, director, which is awesome. So

1100
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: he lets you do your thing, say what you want.

1101
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: I could do anything I want. And I love the

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00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: end the cut because it was a character. I play

1103
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: a guy, Wade, who's just fresh out of jail. He

1104
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: just got out of jail for twenty years. And I

1105
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: get a job at the at the barber shop with

1106
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: Doria at the door. So this is so that's the beautiful.

1107
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: When I and I heard a character like that, I said,

1108
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: I take it. And so in the character I'm in,

1109
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm in character. I'm a method actor, so he doesn't

1110
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: put shoes on. I'm the only actor who never wore

1111
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: shoes in the scene. I wore slippers for the whole season. Okay,

1112
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: for the whole season. Now, okay, now, cutting hair and

1113
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: jail and cutting hair out of jail, it's two different techniques. No,

1114
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: because I have a brother. He did it. He cut

1115
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: my hair and he gripped my head and go, hey, brother,

1116
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to hurt my head when you cut

1117
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: my hand. Okay my hand. The jail cut is completely different.

1118
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: It really can think jail jail cut you ain't got

1119
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: no marry and you ain't got no you don't get

1120
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: a chance to see your hair too maybe the next day, right,

1121
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: and they gripped you hard and and they just used

1122
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: the raise to blame. There you go, just raise the blade.

1123
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: So so you get the opportunity to come on in

1124
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: the cut. You win a director producer who allows you

1125
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: to be you. Now how important is that be to

1126
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: trust in your natural instinct somebody allowing them to trust you?

1127
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: Because Mark, you know, it's a stand up you. You've

1128
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: had to trust yourself all these years, you know, all

1129
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: the way from well, one thing about Rey Badley knows

1130
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: he knows the acting. He knows it. And so when

1131
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: you A lot of times I go on shows, I

1132
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say, but you know these shows I

1133
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: think I know funny, but then they think they know

1134
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: funny to Mark, can't you just say it with h

1135
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: more urgency place? You know? Mark? Uh say apple and

1136
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: you say apple? He said apple. It's apple. It's just

1137
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: one apple, thank you? Okay boy? You know, and so

1138
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: that that that rack, it drives me crazy because I'm American.

1139
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm funny, you know, I think you know,

1140
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: I think I know what's funny. You know, I held

1141
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: the show in the syndication, so but that, you know,

1142
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: so as an actor, badly let you do your thing.

1143
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: And then working with Dorian and Khalita, they they're just

1144
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: beautiful people. During is nice. He's cool and so it

1145
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: ain't no tripping and he's funny and you know, and

1146
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: he and he taught me things. He said, you know, Mark,

1147
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: it was my first I'm on the set, so you're

1148
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: always in the teaching mode. So Dorian helped me out.

1149
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: So he was the o G on the set, teaching me,

1150
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, what to do with a stand. Come over here, Mark,

1151
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: you know that does say that you know you know that,

1152
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: do you know? Teach me a little history. So that

1153
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: was awesome. And Kalidas from Oakland, so she gave me

1154
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: the warmth of just just the warmth on the set.

1155
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: A lot of times you're gonna set, they'd be funky

1156
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: that you under set like boy, so just the warmth

1157
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: of these actors, you know, to do this and this

1158
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: is on our every Wednesday on the Bounce Network called

1159
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: in the Cut, in the Cut, in the cut, he's uh,

1160
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: after twenty years have been in jail, he steps out

1161
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: a job show and this is and this character is funny.

1162
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: It's so funny, you know. I think it's very funny.

1163
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: I think that's why I want the people to watch,

1164
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: because we need to laugh, right. Bounce TV is giving

1165
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to It's free TV, but it's black

1166
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: people and we're laughing and we ain't hurting nobody, and

1167
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: that's the funny thing. And it's new. A lot of

1168
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: TV you see ain't new. You know, you don't see

1169
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of new TV. So that's true. That's true.

1170
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: When did you guys shoot the series? When was this shot?

1171
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: We thought in December? Okay, so y'all got the name

1172
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: before pre Covid. It's pre Covid and it's funny, and

1173
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: it's new, and it's black people and it's dealing with

1174
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: different issues and it's I think it's great. I never

1175
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: saw it, so I haven't seen an episode, so I'm

1176
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: excite me, you know. And I love Bound TV because

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: it's it's all black. I have one TV in my

1178
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: house dedicated about because forty four hours a day it's black.

1179
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: So you get two o'clock in the morning you may

1180
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: see if you know a black movie that you ain't

1181
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: seen Oh man, I ain't seen that movie a long time.

1182
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: So I love Bound. So it's the win, win, win win.

1183
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it's a win when, um, hey, Mark,

1184
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: when you come back on my show, brother, you know,

1185
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: when we get out of this, I'll tell you everything

1186
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying from an honest standpoint. Brother, Um

1187
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: you are you are brilliant. You are brilliant. Um. I

1188
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: want to give me, give me a topic, give me

1189
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: a topic to go. I'm gonna leave on that kicking topic.

1190
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something funny. I don't like to

1191
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: be off the cup. Come on the car Curry of

1192
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: closing out the show, Mighty making conversations Mark Curry. Um,

1193
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: I want to let you know is that, Uh can

1194
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: I trust mail in voting? Can you trust mail in voting?

1195
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: You can't trust any voting. You can't trust anything in America,

1196
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: so you can't trust. Black people should take that word

1197
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: trust out of their vocabulary. No black person in America

1198
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: should say the word trust in any situation. No trust. No,

1199
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: you can't trust anything mail in voting. It's all gonna

1200
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: be stagnant if you talk about mail in voting. Remember

1201
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: the Dimple Chad in Florida. Remember that you haul truck,

1202
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: You haul truck got missing the wake up America, Wake up,

1203
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: wake up, wake up right? And I want I want

1204
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: to ask you this man, what is the best food

1205
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: to eat during the pandemic? What's the best food deed

1206
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: best food to eat doing the pandemic? And soul fool

1207
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: black soul food because it stays in your stunax seven days.

1208
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: It gives you everything you need to, gives you fat,

1209
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: it gives you sugar just in case something to go down.

1210
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: You can take a soul food plate and a soul

1211
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: food plate. What will outlast anything? You a soul food

1212
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: food plate with no heat, just sitting out there with

1213
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and you know it will. And

1214
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: that macaroni and cheese is still good. So much gravy

1215
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: hide you're almost starting laughing. That's right. That's why. That's

1216
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: why Black people dog die high blood pressure because they

1217
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: eat what we eat. Black people dog don't die long,

1218
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: don't last long. White people be having dogs for forty

1219
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: three years. So I had this dog, ain't chicks seven

1220
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: black people? And what happened to Lucky? He died two

1221
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: summers ago. You know why I can need to save

1222
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: the scrap. The dog had high blood friends. I dated

1223
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: dog and that's like you have black people dogs barking

1224
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: in the backyard all the time marking that nothing. I

1225
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: need some water knocked me out. Oh my god, Hey

1226
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: Mark Man, money making Mark, thank you for coming on

1227
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: money making conversation. Brother, God bless you. Man. Don't change, brother,

1228
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: and if you need me, man, we talk. Man. I

1229
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: love you, brother, and I got a lot of productions. Instagram. Alright,

1230
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: my brother, real Mark Kirk Instagram talk to man. What's no,

1231
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm not thank you? What grows in the forest? Trees?

1232
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Sure you know what else? Girls in the forest, our imagination,

1233
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: a sense of one day. And our family bonds too,

1234
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: because when we disconnect from this and connect with this,

1235
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: we reconnect with each other. The forest is closer than

1236
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: you think. Find a forest near you and start exploring.

1237
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: I discover the Forest dot Org. Brought to you by

1238
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: the United States Forest Service and the AD Council. Hi everyone,

1239
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: i'l roker here as a guy with his own catchphrase.

1240
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that Smokey's only said only you can prevent wildfires.

1241
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: But I'm filling in because There's a lot more to report,

1242
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: like when they're parched or windy conditions out there. You

1243
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: gotta be extra careful with things like burning yard waste.

1244
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: After all, wildfires can start anywhere, even in your neck

1245
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: of the woods. Go to Smokey bear dot com to

1246
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: learn more about wildfire prevention brought to you by the U. S.

1247
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: Forest Service, your state Forester, and the ad Council. And

1248
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: we're live here outside the Perez family home, just waiting

1249
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: for the and there they go, almost on time. This morning.

1250
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: Mom is coming out the front doors wrong with a

1251
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: double arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has the bags.

1252
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but the diaper

1253
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. But Mom

1254
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler.

1255
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about

1256
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat.

1257
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: Dad zips the bad clothes and they're off. But looks

1258
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on

1259
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: the roof of the car and there it goes. Ah,

1260
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't

1261
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like

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Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right

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Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t

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Speaker 1: s A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n

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Speaker 1: h S A dot Gov slash the Right Seat brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Mizza and the Ad Council. It's food.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who listened to my show, no I go. I

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Speaker 1: go a little extra when I have a guest on

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Speaker 1: when with food because I'm a ammy food woody. I

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Speaker 1: I'm award winning baker. I like throw that out there,

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Speaker 1: leat everybody know I got skills. I eat, but I

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Speaker 1: have skills my guests. Bringing vegan options and food awareness

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Speaker 1: to the city of Atlanta has always been a life

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Speaker 1: dream of my guests. Peaky Cole. She's the founder and

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Speaker 1: CEO CEO of Slutty Vegan. She's opening the conversation on

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Speaker 1: vegan food options for people who have never considered them

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Speaker 1: in communities that have such high numbers and hypertension, cholesterol, obesity,

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Speaker 1: and a host of other food arable food born elements.

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Speaker 1: And Slutty Vegan, they have combined suburb taste with plant

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Speaker 1: based ingredients so you can remain vegan and get a

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Speaker 1: little naughty. Please work with money making conversations. My friend

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Speaker 1: Pinky Colt, how you doing it? Big A doing very well?

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: Because you know that's when people see you big. What's

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Speaker 1: that big guy? You are? Believe how many intros I get?

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Speaker 1: But you know what, as long as they call it

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Speaker 1: my name, I'm doing something. You know. But you know

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01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: when you just che people say that, big guy, can

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Speaker 1: you get it into the front of the line, this

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Speaker 1: last longer? Can you move me up front? Can you

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Speaker 1: move me up front? Come on it all the time? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know I've known about you. I've lived in Atlanti

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Speaker 1: since two thousand seven. Uh and I eat all types

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Speaker 1: of food. So for as a person who always look

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Speaker 1: at talent and always looking at trying to reach out

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Speaker 1: to people who are doing something unique in the community

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Speaker 1: when it comes to food, what allowed you to separate

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Speaker 1: yourself when with other restaurants. I'm not just talking about

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Speaker 1: vegan restaurants, just just other brands. You know, you're such

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Speaker 1: a competitive market. You know, Atlanta has such a strong

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Speaker 1: restaurant market. One has allowed you to separate. That's my

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Speaker 1: first question I want to ask you about vegan. Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing is timing right. I think often times, um,

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01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:59,520
Speaker 1: we really don't understand how important timing of a thing is. Right.

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Speaker 1: So if you know anything about Uber and Lyft, there

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Speaker 1: were other companies that started they did the same exact

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Speaker 1: thing at the same exact time, um as uber and left.

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Speaker 1: But those businesses didn't work. But the timing of Uber

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Speaker 1: and Lyft was so on point that it gave them

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to really survive in the market that really

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Speaker 1: didn't even exist at that time. So I say all

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Speaker 1: that to say that the time named for slutty Vegan

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Speaker 1: couldn't be better, right. I started my company during an

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Speaker 1: arrow and one people started to walk into a new

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Speaker 1: level of consciousness to be at least even interested and

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Speaker 1: wanting to eat better. That's number one right. Secondly, they said, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, so vegan is not a same thing, but

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Speaker 1: like we're open to try it because it really doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist on the main stream, but it's here. But like,

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Speaker 1: nobody has ever made it cool. So what I did

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Speaker 1: was I made it cool. But I didn't just focus

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Speaker 1: on the food element. I focused on the experience. So

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Speaker 1: rashand you said it, um, when when you ask the question,

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Speaker 1: you said the marketing, right, So we put so much

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Speaker 1: emphasis in the marketing um from the timing that we

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Speaker 1: got to do this thing that it allowed us to

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Speaker 1: be one of the businesses that everybody knows and love.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, to the to the naked eye, and they

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Speaker 1: just seem like a restaurant, But it's bigger than the restaurant, right,

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Speaker 1: It's bigger than burgers and fries. We're making people excited

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Speaker 1: about a lifestyle. And I don't know that a lot

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Speaker 1: of businesses do that, but I feel like that's the

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Speaker 1: formula to our success. Is that just like Pepsi and

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Speaker 1: Coca Cola, right, like, they're selling a lifestyle experience and

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Speaker 1: then you come get the product based on the experience.

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Speaker 1: And we've been able to do that and that's such

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Speaker 1: such apart from a lot of the other businesses and

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Speaker 1: began businesses that you see. But we upslay that whole

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Speaker 1: marketing and that experience to get people excited about the brand. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's let's get to the heart of it.

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Speaker 1: You are a star, Okay, I've worked around stars. You

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01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: know that. You see my bio. I know when I

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Speaker 1: say you star. So you can give me all that

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Speaker 1: little nice marketing you know Steve Harvey, He's sold ticket

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Speaker 1: because he was Steve Harvey. Okay, yeah, he worked hard,

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Speaker 1: he marketed, he worked on his jokes, but he separated

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Speaker 1: himself because he believes in himself. Plus he had a

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Speaker 1: unique ability to communicate and unique ability. Same thing with

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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, Same thing Timmis anything with it, Jamie Foxx,

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Speaker 1: same thing with Monique, all these people I worked with,

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Speaker 1: Gabrielle Union and Nick Cannon, and you fall in that

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Speaker 1: class of people who clearly can be talented at someplace else,

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Speaker 1: but have chose to be talented in the food industry

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Speaker 1: and the food service industry. Why did you choose discourse Because,

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Speaker 1: like I wanted you to say that, because sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I get people on the show, especially uniquely talented people,

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Speaker 1: like on the show, you tend to want to give

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Speaker 1: me a glove, a global perspective on your success. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Vegan just didn't start last week. You know that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you might come on. It's interesting because like I can

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Speaker 1: only be real and raw, right, Vegan wrong, just Vegan wrong.

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Speaker 1: I can only I can only be Vegan raw. But

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Speaker 1: you also said it to listen, people love me, yes,

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Speaker 1: because people love me, they're going to buy into the

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Speaker 1: experience because they're being the person that curates that experience.

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Speaker 1: But it all speaks in the same breath, right, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna fall in love with the marketing and want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the experience, But they also know

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Speaker 1: who created that experience. And I loved you before I

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Speaker 1: knew what you did. Oh, I appreciate that, I'm saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand that. Okay, you know, people know, people know brands.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if people know about Chick fil A

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Speaker 1: and they've never eating a chicken sandwich from Chick fil A,

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: and so so the same thing. So your marketing has

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Speaker 1: made you a mainstay in conversation. In other words, you

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Speaker 1: could say that you are are the voice of you know,

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. You know a lot of people

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01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: can listen to show go why he's saying that. But

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Speaker 1: you all become a brand, a vegan brand, a voice,

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Speaker 1: and so when you speak, there's so much credibility tied

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Speaker 1: to it because the success is tied to it. You know,

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: the social media numbers are tied to it. You know,

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: your community uplift is tied to it. So you will

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01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: beyond just the restaurant and people lining up. People see

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: a soul of spirit, and you understand how to connect

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Speaker 1: to two. And so that's why I say, is that, Yeah,

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01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: we can talk about the marketing, but let's get to

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Speaker 1: the core of why this is successful. It's you one

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: you willing to put in. I always tell people there

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Speaker 1: are twenty four hours in a day. Learn to use

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Speaker 1: every hour of that. You do that, you get up

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: at the same time all the time you do that,

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01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 1: you committed the uplifting people, not only yourself but also

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Speaker 1: the community because you figured, hey, your God has blessed

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Speaker 1: you is even a bigger blessing if you share those opportunities.

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Speaker 1: You do that, and then you know, if you're trying

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: to me, if you're tying me talking about this is good,

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: let's talk, I shut up and listen to you for me,

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: because see, I can't stand people who are talented. Won't

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01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: let nobody talk good about it. Just just cut me

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Speaker 1: off right in the middle of one of one of

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Speaker 1: the one of them, one of them, one of them

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: come to the mountain speeches. But you know, I'm gonna

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01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: get do what you gotta do. You know, conversations. I'm

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I'm excited about these conversations because I

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: work extremely hard, but I don't I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: look for the credit, right, So for you to give

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Speaker 1: me my flowers, I want to say that I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you because like it's not my intention to get the flowers,

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Speaker 1: Like I work hard because I love to do this

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Speaker 1: like this when I say, like I wake up in

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Speaker 1: the morning at six o'clock every single morning because my

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Speaker 1: brain is wired like that, because I know that I'm

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Speaker 1: fulfilling my mission every single day, like I love I'm

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: in love with that. So to hear you speak on

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Speaker 1: me like that, like I like, I value that, and

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Speaker 1: I want to say say you um, because you know,

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you can always just be in a weezeeze weeds,

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: but like just to stop down. So I'm sitting here

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: laughing when you're saying these things about me, and and

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: that feels good in my spirits. Let's let's just google

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Speaker 1: a little missus Pinky Coats dot com, Been a Southern

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Speaker 1: or dot com, Rolling Out dot com, Facebook dot com,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Magazine dot com, Big News dot com dot com.

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Speaker 1: See um gets who face and a plate on any

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Speaker 1: of those pictures. Okay, no, don't where to be found.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know who image? Every time I cool?

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Speaker 1: You know what image I see? I see Pinky co

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Speaker 1: the Queen of v Thank you, man, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, let me tell you something. I'm listening now.

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening to you. I accidentally into this right

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: so like I'm sure you've probably read about it before,

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: but no, I'm new. I don't know nothing about you.

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: Talk to me like I because like I told you,

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: I knew you before you have food. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what somebody told me. You know what she does that

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: vegan stuff. Yeah, but continue to educate me about you,

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01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't let me talk about you, so obviously

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: gonna tell me something I don't know. So continue to talk,

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: miss pink. I'm learning you something. So the day that

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Speaker 1: I was born, while I was getting my freedom, my

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01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: father was losing his He was being sentenced to life

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Speaker 1: in prison. He ended up doing twenty two years. So

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01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: growing up, my mother was working three and four jobs

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Speaker 1: every single day. Immigrants, you're making woman, making sure that

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Speaker 1: the lights were always on, that we always had food

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Speaker 1: on the table. We weren't. We weren't, we weren't eating

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Speaker 1: what the average family was eating. But that's what we

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: made the best out of the big beans and right

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Speaker 1: when we did it, and she just made sure that

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Speaker 1: we had everything that we needed. We may not have

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Speaker 1: had everything that we wanted, but we that's only surely

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Speaker 1: had what we needed. So I remember maneuvering through life,

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: always wanting to figure out ways to put my mother

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Speaker 1: in position so that she didn't have to work that

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Speaker 1: hard because my father was in prison. Meanwhile, my father

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: would call me from prison from federal prison, telling me

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Speaker 1: what books to read, telling me about stocks and bonds,

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Speaker 1: and telling me like how to how to be a

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Speaker 1: boss and a leader. So I took those experiences and

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Speaker 1: I made them my own. I started throwing parties at

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Speaker 1: fourteen years though. I was making four thousand dollars every

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Speaker 1: single week. I remember counting money with my mother on

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Speaker 1: the couch, making more than my mother in high school.

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Speaker 1: I'm selling candy, selling food. Just always wanted to create

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Speaker 1: and just to just to get a residual off the

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Speaker 1: things that I put together. Right then, when I got

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Speaker 1: to college, I paid my way through college by doing

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Speaker 1: hair right. So beyond that, I've just always found ways

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Speaker 1: to make money. Um, and to create things that people

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Speaker 1: So I came up with this concept and it was

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Speaker 1: But then I realized that I needed to lose that

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Speaker 1: be who you see today, right, So I had a

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Speaker 1: money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. So how

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Speaker 1: did the name sloody Vegan come about? Because you said

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Speaker 1: you came up with it? Did you share with anybody?

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Speaker 1: Did you joking in came up with? How did they

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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: come up? How was it? Who sits there? You sit

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Speaker 1: up in your get your head against the headboard. How

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Speaker 1: wire you were you land? Where will you? How will

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Speaker 1: you sit? Let me tell you I had some medicinal marijuana.

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Speaker 1: See what you do? A couple of money making conversation.

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01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: I was just look, that's a part of this story

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: that I don't really talk about. That's a book bar

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01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you that piece. But I was

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the bed, and I was going

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01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: to somebody cloud and I come up with a million

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: ideas all the time. I just if I don't something

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01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: about being able to create ideas. It's almost like when

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Speaker 1: a rapper freestyles, I could do that what I did.

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01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: And so we're sitting in the same room for at

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: least ten minutes. I didn't came up with about ten ideas,

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Speaker 1: and somebody walking away with a billion dollar idea. So

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the house and I had my

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Speaker 1: medicinal marijuana and and and and it came to me like, oh,

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: floody vegan, because I knew that if I created Pinky's vegan,

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to have the same traction. And how

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01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 1: did I know that. I knew that because working in TV,

1545
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: I know what people pay attention to. I know that

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01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: sex cells, I know it's gonna make them change the channel.

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I know what they're gonna be tuned into. So I said,

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna take the two most pleasurable

1549
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 1: experiences in life, and that sex and that s food,

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01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 1: and I put it in the pot and I'm a

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,520
Speaker 1: skirt and I'm gonna create something that's going to require

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01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: people to ask questions because guess what, the vegan lifestyle

1553
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: wasn't totally cool, right. It wasn't something that black people,

1554
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: especially was saying, Oh, you know, let me get this

1555
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: cool schools. They're not in that. They're like this, this

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01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: ain't got no flavor. I ain't in that. So how

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01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: could I create something that's going to get people who

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 1: don't normally eat like this to at least be interested

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01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: in having a conversation. So the name sounded racey and

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01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I liked it. So many people was like, Oh, that's

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: too racy, that ain't gonna work. But I'm like, guess

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: what if you can't get past the idea that we're

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01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: not selling sex, we're actually selling a lifestyle, but we're

1564
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: using sex as as the buffer to get people to

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: pay attention to That's exactly what I did, and it worked,

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: and there was only I was just having this conversation. Earlier,

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01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity um to participate in the Super

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty nineteen, and they wanted me to change

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: their name. And at that point I realized, listen, I

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: can never waiver on what I created because I created.

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't mentional. I created it for a reason. And

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01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: if people can't get past that intention and that mission,

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01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: that those are people that I don't want to work with.

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01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: And it's okay, you don't have to work with everybody.

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01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: So here I am. Two years later, I got listen,

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01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: I got kids saying slutty Digan, Christians, Muslim. It don't

1577
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: matter your age, your creed, you wherever you're from. People

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: are talking about slutty Vegan. You know why because not

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01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: only is it a burger joint, We're helping the community.

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: We're giving back, we're providing resources, we're giving opportunities, we're

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01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: showing people would have looked like to be an unconventional entrepreneur,

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: and we're changing the way that people think about food.

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01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: If you if you don't fall in love it for

1584
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: at least one of those things, you're just a hater.

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01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: And that's that. You know what I'm saying. I get.

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: But if you see, I don't pay attention to that

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Speaker 1: because I'm on the strait and narrow and I know

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01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: that I have something so great that will not only

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: change the dynamic of my family, it will also change

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01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: the world. Well you do fifty nine thousand Instagram followers.

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01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You know, when when I

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01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: sat up and talked to a little I'm gonna call

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01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: you a baby genius. You know, because you know the

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01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: baby genius here she up there in her bed. You

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01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: know she got marketing skills. She can articulate you guys,

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01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: hear that on it. You know she you know, she

1597
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: put like four or five sentences in a row. I

1598
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: could actually just answer a question. She talking to five minutes.

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: I just have to cut off because it's my shild

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Speaker 1: She's not gonna do it's come on my show and

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Speaker 1: I'll talk meet now, okay, on amazing games. Now now

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01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: you said, you said I put I took what people

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Speaker 1: love the most, food and sexs put them in the pot,

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: and I just start stirring. Let's start talking about that menu.

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: Because see, you're right, you know, because of the fact

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01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: that I feel that your name created such a high

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: level of curiosity that they brought in your age group,

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: which is really key. And that's why I feel you successful,

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01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: because you know, because because vegan ism to me, to

1610
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: me was always felt like older generation food. You know,

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01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to eat before you know, they figured out

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: they need to start eating because they have they blood

1613
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: pressure too. How they're trying to get light right. You

1614
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: made this hip for your generation because you are a millennial.

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: But you know it's so crazy. Let me tell you

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01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: something real quick. Sorry to cut you off, but I

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01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: gotta say that I don't know why. Okay, okay, okay,

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01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: you know next time, I know it just COVID the team.

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01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna we're gonna see each other. Next time. I'll

1620
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 1: just let you know we're gonna see each other. Listen,

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01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: the Aunties they love me. That's demographic is actually not

1622
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: the millennials. It's the more it's the people that are

1623
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: conservative that make a medium like like, listen, thirty five

1624
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: to fifty five is my core audience that I see those,

1625
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: I see the lines I see listen. These are women

1626
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: who have children, These are women who are conservatives. They

1627
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: literally this ain't it ain't even just the millennials. You

1628
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: got the older people, the people that support me the most.

1629
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I laughed and joke with my friends. I'm like, listen,

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01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't get what y'all say. The Aunties love me.

1631
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: And as long as I got the Aunties in my

1632
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: back pocket, I'm good, right, right, and you got it?

1633
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: And so three nine thousand Instagram follows. Now, how how

1634
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: does that help your business to have that amound social

1635
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: media force tied to your you know, certified account and

1636
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: it's Instagram. Um so, so beyond just Instagram followers, right,

1637
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: we have different channels where we have different audiences. On

1638
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: so Facebook you may truly get like the aunties and

1639
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: the families, and then on Instagram you get the younger people.

1640
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: But then we also have a community text group where

1641
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: I can text my consumer, right, I can text them

1642
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: like I'm having a regular conversation with them, and we

1643
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: do that. We do it in the most organic way.

1644
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm texting them like, hey, big head, what you're doing?

1645
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Come see me? And then I put the restaurant address,

1646
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: So I have about seven thousand people in there, and

1647
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 1: then I have twenty thousand people on my email blast.

1648
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: So how it helps me is that, however I want

1649
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: to communicate with my people, I can use a different

1650
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: channel to do that and a different tone to do

1651
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: that to get my message across. So say, God forbid

1652
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: Instagram chets down today. I know I got different channels

1653
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 1: to communicate with the people, but It's been a benefit

1654
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: to me nonetheless, because I can touch the people. And

1655
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: that's why they love Vegan Because you see here, you

1656
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: see a restaurant concept that is moving into a corporate

1657
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: structure of the business. We're moving at scale, we're open

1658
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: up new locations, but we still have the voice of

1659
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: the people, right we we we still insert things that

1660
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: are happening in the culture into the business in an

1661
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: authentic way where that's that's not exploiting people, but making

1662
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: people feel comfortable and safe to say that. Guess what

1663
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I see myself in this business. I see the journey.

1664
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I can follow the journey and I can grow with

1665
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: this journey because I feel like I'm a part of it,

1666
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: and we make people feel a part of that journey.

1667
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: And that's really why it works. So we're able to

1668
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: use the channels um that we have, and we have

1669
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: multiple channels, and we grow those channels every single day. Great, fantastic.

1670
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: You're are a marketing guru. Now you come on my show.

1671
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: I got u ninety three thousand fan club members of

1672
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: my Little Blast. I got when my Facebook at almost

1673
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand Facebook. I say all this because I

1674
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: know you open it up a new a third location

1675
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Correct, Okay, can you can little low

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Speaker 1: Rashawn McDonald money Making Conversation dot Com, can he help

1677
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: promote your brand? Can you can I do that for you? Sure?

1678
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, because you're a marketing machine. I'm just saying,

1679
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I finally I got you in my life, Pinky. I

1680
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: don't want to let you go, So I got I

1681
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: gotta boy down to the queen. Now. You know, when

1682
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you when the queen come in the room,

1683
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: you gotta stand out from everybody else. You know, you

1684
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: know I ain't got no six pack. I gotta stand

1685
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: that with marketing. I got the marketing over here, so

1686
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: we definitely get something together your third location. Tell us

1687
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: about your third location, because I'm gonna feature that Rashaun Eats.

1688
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 1: I dropped that every Wednesday on my Facebook page, Agent

1689
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: on my Instagram, I gotta like about forty thousand followers

1690
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: on my Instagram account, and of course I got my

1691
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: YouTube account forty thousand on my YouTube Money Making Conversation

1692
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: dot Com. More importantly, you know, I I feel comfortable

1693
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: and being able to joke around with you because of

1694
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the fact that you know you're you're a real person

1695
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: in the community. But before we get into your community,

1696
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,839
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this third location you're opening,

1697
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: telling people why you're opening it. You know, we're coming

1698
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: out of the pandemic. Okay, we're not need out of

1699
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: the pandemic. If you made a decision to open up

1700
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: a third restaurant, talk about it. Where is it located at? UM?

1701
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: So you know what I learned about slutty vegan and

1702
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: slutty vegans, the weather proof right um and slutty vegans

1703
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: covid proof. As long as we continue to do what

1704
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: we've been doing and learn how to pivot. And I

1705
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: think that that's the beautiful thing about entrepreneurs, knowing how

1706
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: to pivot, right, like being a chameleon, and like facing

1707
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: adversity and understand how to like change that adversity into

1708
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: a benefit to your business. And I think that I've

1709
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: been able to do that very well. And I say

1710
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: all that to say that I just opened up another

1711
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 1: lit a second location a month ago that got lined

1712
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: down the block. So now I got two locations with

1713
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: lines down the block. Any day now I'm opening my

1714
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: third location and historic fourth Ward on Edgewood, UM and

1715
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing that also in the middle of a pandemic.

1716
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: But I'm excited about that location because there's so much

1717
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: history there. Martin Luther King grew up um less than

1718
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: than two minutes away from that location, so there's a

1719
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: lot of historic elements. Um, you got all burned over there.

1720
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on in that neighborhood. And

1721
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: I feel like we can continue to revitalize Edgewood when

1722
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: we put a new staple in the community like Floody Beacon.

1723
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: That's not just coming just to make money. We're coming

1724
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: to to really like help the community grow right and

1725
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: be better. And that's what we do in every single community.

1726
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: So Edgewood is opening in the next few days. I'm

1727
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: excited about it. It's three thousand square feet. Um, we

1728
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: got a full on kitchen. It's really just going to

1729
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: be experienced, right. People come and they could feel like

1730
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: they're at home when they come to Edgewood. When they

1731
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: come inside of Floody Deagon, they're going to see pieces

1732
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 1: of history that's gonna remind them why Atlanta is so necessary,

1733
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: why Edgewood is so necessary, and why business and converse

1734
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: is so necessary. So you'll you'll get pieces of that

1735
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get pieces of of the HBCUs that are

1736
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: in the community. You're gonna get elements of people who

1737
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: have taken Atlanta to the next level through politics, through

1738
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: business like You're gonna get a lot of that. And

1739
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: what we've learned how to do in a great way

1740
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: and we continue to do it, is we know how

1741
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: to teach and we know how to hide the education

1742
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: um inside of the experience. And that's what we're gonna

1743
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: be doing the Edgeword. So I'm excited. After Edgewood, We've

1744
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: got two more locations that were opening up in Atlanta,

1745
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: and then I'm on to the next day because we're

1746
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: growing and God is good man. Now I'll start trying

1747
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: to figure out why I admit your I'm gonna call

1748
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: you short because you because you because you're talking all

1749
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: this noise to be right now. Now, a couple of

1750
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: things that you're joined in the community. Here this this

1751
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: national jiggle contest that you had, which I thought was

1752
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: super smart with my boar big ticker over there V

1753
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: one oh three in Atlanta, Georgia. And then you're doing

1754
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: something with his Georgia Department of Julia Juvenile Justice, the

1755
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: d JJ with the ten thou dollar scholarship of jobs

1756
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: at your at your just all tied through the Pinky

1757
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: Cold Foundation and you being Pinky Cold that owned the

1758
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: Slowly Vegan restaurant. These are both empowering formats. One is

1759
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: empowering and for entertainment purposes and let people know that

1760
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: they get the opportunity to work with an establish a

1761
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: national known recording artists. Right there alone means that you

1762
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: got juice. And then you're on the show with my

1763
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: board Big Tiger on a on a one o three

1764
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: v one o three and then now you're doing the

1765
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: d JJ with the Georgia Department. So talk of the

1766
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: reason behind both of its adventures, I should say, and

1767
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: because I watched my mother being philanthropist. She was, she

1768
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: was a hood philanthropist. She didn't even realize what she

1769
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: was doing. But you watch it, though, but you watch,

1770
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: but I watched her right, So like I remember being

1771
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: a kid and we got ten people living in the house,

1772
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: so like the community community was embedded in me. As

1773
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: a kid, I didn't understand what was happening, but I

1774
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: just knew that there were people coming from Jamaica that

1775
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: were standing at my mother's house. That that we didn't

1776
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: share the same blood, but they became family right. So

1777
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: all through my life I absorbed that watching my mother

1778
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: do that and saw her selfless attitude and behavior and

1779
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: how she moved as a queen, and I really like

1780
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: captured that from my mother. So as an adult, it's

1781
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 1: full circle. And I laught for my mother about this because, like,

1782
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: philanthropy is at the core of who I am, right,

1783
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: So I'm a magnet. The money money is gonna come

1784
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to me. I'm gonna get it regardless, But to be

1785
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: able to help people and provide resources for people, that

1786
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: is more money than any dollar bill could ever be

1787
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: in my bank account because I know that I get

1788
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: to uplift people and I know that those blessings are

1789
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: going to come back ten folds. So when I created

1790
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: the foundation, I created it because one being totally transparent

1791
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: my finance God like, Jinky, you're spending a lot of money.

1792
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: How do people were like, what we're gonna do? I said,

1793
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: you know what, let's put some structure to this because

1794
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person I'm gonna take the shirt

1795
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: off my back to help somebody else. So I created

1796
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: my foundation to do exactly what I do in my

1797
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:12,839
Speaker 1: real life help people. So I partner with the Department

1798
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: of Juvenile Justice to provide opportunities to thirty x juvenile

1799
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: of vendors, right because I see them as people and

1800
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: I know what it felt like to be on a

1801
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: receiving end of somebody being caught up in the system.

1802
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: So I wanted to help them and show them a

1803
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: different way of life. That's number one. UM. Number two

1804
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: providing resources for businesses in my area, the businesses in

1805
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: which I served, you know, I've helped them um financially

1806
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: support themselves while going through COVID and making sure that

1807
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: the people around me are doing good. Because if I'm

1808
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: doing good and they're not doing good, then I'm not winning, right.

1809
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: That's number two. UM. Number three in my foundation, I'm

1810
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: doing something called vote nick Um with Jamaine dupri and

1811
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Impossible Fools to get people excited about voting. So at

1812
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't care who you

1813
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: vote for. This vote because guess what, Once upon a time,

1814
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: we didn't have the right and the ability to do that.

1815
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: So now that you have an opportunity to do that,

1816
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: exercise it however you do it. Just exercises so that

1817
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: your voice could be heard. But those are just three

1818
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: of the million things that we've already done in the foundation.

1819
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: But it feels good to know that I can use

1820
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: that platform to help people build generational wealth. Oh and

1821
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: the one thing that I didn't this is the biggest

1822
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: thing that I'm working on, and I'm actually about you

1823
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: forget something, Okay I am. I'm partnering with um Derrek Kay's.

1824
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: He owns a restaurant called Big Days Cheese Steaks. We're

1825
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: doing a life insurance initiative where we're providing life insurance

1826
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: for every single black man in Atlanta who makes thirty

1827
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: tho dollars a less um so that they don't have

1828
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: to pay for So what I do is like real

1829
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: community works. Right. So like I called myself a hood politician, right,

1830
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not super versed in politics that

1831
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: to be honest, that's really not my thing. However, I

1832
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: like to help people, and I know that I can

1833
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: reach the community by helping them and showing them that

1834
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: there's a better way by providing them sources, giving them

1835
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: access to information because you know, people don't really want

1836
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: to give us access. But now I'm gonna make it

1837
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: my responsibility to provide access resources and to show people

1838
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: about financial literacy. The things that I did learn now

1839
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: I know that I can show you and I do

1840
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 1: all of that through my foundation. Well, she is the Queen.

1841
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: I love her. The first time we've actually talked, this

1842
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: first time we've actually communicated, and she got to hear

1843
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: what I think about her, and I hope she understands

1844
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: this is an under talk from somebody who recognizes gifted people.

1845
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: And more importantly, her community involvement is really to me

1846
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: more important than her food, and her food is the

1847
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: bonus part of who she is because she is not

1848
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: forgotten that it takes a whole to be successful, not

1849
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: a half. You have to you have everybody has to

1850
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: be part of the opportunity. And she understands that and

1851
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: she values that. Sluggy Vegan is a is a product.

1852
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: It started, like she said, started in her bedroom. I

1853
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: always tell people on this show, you have to be

1854
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: motivated by an opportunity and you have put a plan

1855
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: in place, and you have to give effort for that

1856
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: plan to be successful. That's what you've done, Pinky with

1857
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: your brand. You know, it's an idea. We all have ideas,

1858
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: and you decided that you guess what, I'm gonna put

1859
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: it in place. And then when people try to try

1860
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: to twist it, try to come in with a crazy

1861
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: idea of question you. First of all, you whenever I

1862
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: want tell people, whenever somebody questioned you on your idea,

1863
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 1: ask them how much have they participate? Are they participated

1864
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: with money? Are they participating with work responsibility? Or they

1865
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: just participating because they're just verbally commenting those people have

1866
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: to ignore it first, and then when you when you

1867
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: get your business rolling, you have to understand people asking

1868
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: you to compromise. If anybody ever asked you to compromise

1869
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: on your idea for a one time event, that's a

1870
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: bad idea. That's a bad idea because you will never

1871
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: be able to recover because for the you always be

1872
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: walking away going I should not have done that, and

1873
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,759
Speaker 1: why did I do it? Because you compromise your values

1874
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: and you refuse to do that. And guess what you're

1875
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: all over this? Are we going out of the state here?

1876
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 1: What's what's happening here with bloody VVA? You know, at first,

1877
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: why are you not on TV here? You know it's

1878
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 1: funny I got two TV office right now? Okay, okay,

1879
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: let's go then, okay, cool, Please please be on TV.

1880
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay if they don't, if they don't, come, happy, come

1881
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: talk to Rishane mcdal. We get it all straight. Okay,

1882
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: but you're special and I think that for my my

1883
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: whole take on you being on TV. The food is awesome,

1884
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: but they gotta they gotta capture you. I'm actually working

1885
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 1: on a TV show, UM where I am helping struggling

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Speaker 1: we're so that's one of the shows and the other

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Speaker 1: show is UM a Dinner at Pinky, So to two

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Speaker 1: shows that that will potentially be on major network. So

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Speaker 1: we're in the process of that happening right now. So

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Speaker 1: I'm working. You keep me posting and I just um,

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Speaker 1: I just got a book deal with Simon is Shoester,

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited about it. That's my girl over there.

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Speaker 1: You with my girl. Uh Don Davis. No, I'm not okay,

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Speaker 1: she she's the she's the ball. But guess what, you're

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Speaker 1: the ball too, So not saying you're the person. But again,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: than be giving me thirty two minutes. If you're time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me listen, and anytime you need me,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. I appreciate you, and again, tell your team

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Speaker 1: to get those uh all that from. Every time you

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Speaker 1: open a restaurant, please let me know so I can

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Speaker 1: support you. And I'm serious about that. Twice in mind.

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Speaker 1: I send out my newsletter. It goes out every Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so let me know. I'll drop it in there. This

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Speaker 1: is free stuff. This is part of my community help,

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Speaker 1: especially with young entrepreneurs and not saying that you're a

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Speaker 1: young entrepreneur, but we all know the marketing is key

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Speaker 1: and somebody might see you over here, might give you

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to sell something over there. Again, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show, Pinky Cot, thank thank you. PC.

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Speaker 1: You'll be safe. Thank you. All right, we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with more from Marsa McDonald and money making conversations

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Speaker 1: Dr Denay Simpson, Assistant Professor of Surgery at Northwestern Medicine,

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Speaker 1: tell us about the African American Transplant Access Program. So

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Speaker 1: this is my baby. This is a program that I

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Speaker 1: here to change that. I'm April Dinnuity, host of the

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Speaker 1: My Next Guest. My next guest, Candice hold the Field,

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Speaker 1: is the founder of the largest African American SPA community.

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Speaker 1: She's affectionately known as the Six figure Spa Chick holy

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Speaker 1: Field is defounded and decreated behind Created Mine, Behind Queen

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Speaker 1: Spa Expo. I'm telling you this is the Black Spat magazine.

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Speaker 1: She's best known for a war winning spa parties and

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Speaker 1: her business and structural classes design to empower millennial business owners.

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Speaker 1: The annual Queen Spat Export is slated to takes place

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia this mark. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Candice holy Field, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I am proper honored to be here and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you so so much. Well, I thank you for appreciating me.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you're an entrepreneur and you're part of

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Speaker 1: the uh the fastest division of growth women Black women

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Speaker 1: as entrepreneurs in America. Why in the world of entrepreneurship.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen how especially black women have been

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Speaker 1: you know, the matriarchs of the families stay home, you know,

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Speaker 1: take care of the kids. The husbands work, go out

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Speaker 1: and do the work. What is your mindset, Kansas, that

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Speaker 1: makes you an entrepreneur? Um, guess my mind. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell anybody I am an entrepreneur because I want to

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Speaker 1: free you know, I want my kind. I want to

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Speaker 1: be able to do what I want to do when

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Speaker 1: I get ready. Um so that's why I am on entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody has a you know on reason why

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Speaker 1: they do what they do, but for me, I just,

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Speaker 1: you know, I really wanted my freedom. I worked the

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Speaker 1: job for years and I couldn't do what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do, whether it was time or financial. But now

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Speaker 1: that I have been an entrepreneur for the last ten years,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much made a place where I can do

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Speaker 1: what I want to do. And that's the most you

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Speaker 1: know things that I love the most of that being

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. So why is that important? Because you're nine

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Speaker 1: to five, you get vacation page, you get sick days page,

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Speaker 1: you get a potential for one k. You know, the

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Speaker 1: steady week, that's pretty much guaranteed if you're a stable

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Speaker 1: place of employment every week bi weekly payments of weekly payments.

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Speaker 1: That sounds so good to go out there and being

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur there there's no certain things out there, So

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Speaker 1: what is inspiring you? What is what is forcing you

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Speaker 1: on enabling you to walk past all that insert uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: So I am a spot professional. I was a license

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Speaker 1: sage therapy for years. And you know, I worked a job.

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Speaker 1: I worked for a spar company, UM, and I had

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Speaker 1: to clock any out. You know, if Karen wasn't on

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Speaker 1: the book, you know, I had to sit there at

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Speaker 1: the job and not get paid. So I got I

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Speaker 1: got paid. I was based off how many people I

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Speaker 1: took in in the day. My income was not Gary

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Speaker 1: feed as a spot professional because we get paid totally different.

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Speaker 1: So we get paid per person that we actually took.

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Speaker 1: So if nobody was on the books, we wasn't get bade.

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Speaker 1: So you've always been an entrepreneur in a sense. Then

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Speaker 1: I actually was a waitress about thirteen years. Uh and

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Speaker 1: just think case you're don't know anything about you know,

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Speaker 1: being a waitress. The long as we worked there, the

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Speaker 1: more levels you have to kind of do what you

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Speaker 1: wanted to do. Um. And so I did it get

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Speaker 1: for thirteen years. But you know, I made the same

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Speaker 1: amount of money every single month, Like I knew how

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Speaker 1: much I learned about how much money, how was going.

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Speaker 1: You knew to peak with kids, and you know the

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Speaker 1: days and the shifts that were strong and and you know,

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Speaker 1: but but that's but that's just knowing information. But that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's information that's going to change your life.

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Speaker 1: And so being entrepreneur, if you were, you know, you

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Speaker 1: learned the peak times, you know the type of customers,

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Speaker 1: the places to go. So so you were licensed, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that's because you know, I haven't had

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Speaker 1: massagies in my life. My daughter was with a professional

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Speaker 1: tennis player, so we have to have massage. We go

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Speaker 1: to massage therapists for her and sometimes we've invite them

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Speaker 1: by the home depending on she had a match schedule.

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Speaker 1: So but to still step out there on your own though,

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Speaker 1: in the industry, black industry, because black people are interesting

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Speaker 1: when it comes to to what we do with you,

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Speaker 1: which seems like a norm when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: white white people. And I have to say it like this.

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Speaker 1: You know, white people, they vacation differently, they take care

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Speaker 1: of their bodies differently. They they massages or foot feed,

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Speaker 1: pedicures and manicures. So what made you feel that you

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Speaker 1: can open the door to black people in this small

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Speaker 1: industry and to be successful based on your vision, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not. When I first get into these a

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Speaker 1: lot of my clients were occasions and me, first of all,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not. I believe it. Okay. That's why

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Speaker 1: I made that big speech before I talked to I'm

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Speaker 1: not shocking a boy black people. I go this small

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Speaker 1: is enough to know black people not sitting in the

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Speaker 1: lobby waiting, Okay. I'm I'm one of whatever or whoever

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Speaker 1: came in there with me. Okay, So so I will

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Speaker 1: not be shocked. And that's why I'm just saying this

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Speaker 1: is a very you see a market out there, but

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Speaker 1: it's not responsive based on the client lists that you have,

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Speaker 1: and so I just want to let you know that

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Speaker 1: is one of the reasons I brought you on the show,

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: which to show people that don't you can't go to

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Speaker 1: go against the norm and be successful or the perception

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Speaker 1: and be successful. And that's what you're accomplishing in the

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Speaker 1: in this in the smart industry as an African American woman.

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Speaker 1: You can continue. Now that you know Shan understands that.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. Thank you. That was a bay.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, uh, And what happened?

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Speaker 1: You know? I thought always having all these Caucasian clients

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Speaker 1: and it just done on me, like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not something that we are doing. So I

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Speaker 1: always tell everybody. I made massage cool for black people. Um.

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Speaker 1: I got on Facebook first, I got on you know,

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Speaker 1: the Instagram, and I just made like a really big

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Speaker 1: deal to come and get these maccabis in my strategy

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01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: with spot parties and these spot parties for years. I

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Speaker 1: started out doing kids spy party, So every little black

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Speaker 1: kid in our whole city of Mithias where I'm from,

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Speaker 1: I product beside and be a little facial for all

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Speaker 1: of them. Um. And of course if I was doing

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Speaker 1: the kids, the adults was like, I want to face

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Speaker 1: you and I want to masside. And so that time

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Speaker 1: my beds and tuned into an a brain because I

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Speaker 1: really was doing kids in the beginning, and I just

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Speaker 1: made it cool. And at that time, ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even understand woking, but I knew the power

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Speaker 1: of just showing up. So I showed up on Facebook

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Speaker 1: every day, I showed up on Instagram, you know once

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Speaker 1: he came about every day and people just always saw me.

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Speaker 1: And when I first got my uh, when I first

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01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: went to massage school, everybody asked me why did I

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01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: want to do massage? Everybody telling me that I was

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01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,919
Speaker 1: not going to make any money as a massage therapyople

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01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad now you know, I proved them wrong.

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01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: But I just made massage super cool. And I showed

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Speaker 1: up all over the place promoting my brain who I

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Speaker 1: was and what I did. And now everybody I know black,

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Speaker 1: you know, love the spot and get massage is and face.

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Speaker 1: He was like all the time. It's part of while

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Speaker 1: you know, monthly we illness. Uh keep wow, you know that?

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Speaker 1: Did you know the interesting thing that I like, I

2093
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 1: was talking to the owner of the Slutty Vegan Pinky

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Speaker 1: and you know, now she's opening up several locations during

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, you know, and this is these are vegan

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people told her that, well, girl,

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Speaker 1: People don't know who eat that. I don't know people

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Speaker 1: she got several Slutty Vegan Vegan locations and people are

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Speaker 1: standing in line at several locations. So and I asked her,

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Speaker 1: you know about overcoming negative spirits and so the same

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Speaker 1: thing with you, you know, because you have to sleep

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Speaker 1: in the mirror in the morning and you look back

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to answer the question that you

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Speaker 1: that you're asking yourself looking at yourself, how do you

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Speaker 1: how did you overcome that? You know who who who

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Speaker 1: can do this? Or was it just you? Um? In

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Speaker 1: the beginning, it was just you know, myself, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, even you know, my family, it was

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Speaker 1: about I didn't think nothing was gonna happen, So it

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Speaker 1: was just myself in the beginning, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: away Tress and I was like, I just I gotta

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Speaker 1: do something different. Um, So it was just me and

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Speaker 1: then me moving to Atlanta. My first went towards the Brina.

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Speaker 1: She was the owner of the glam University or UM

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I massaged her, I went to her event

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Speaker 1: in death. Game just changed for me in Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: death when I started the process to become a millionaire. Um,

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Speaker 1: and dad was back in two thopands between. But she

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Speaker 1: was the very first person the Ganning University on Antiguan

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Speaker 1: who just I don't know, like she just woke up

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Speaker 1: something in me. And I just started seeing things you know,

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Speaker 1: for myself for my business that I just never made

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Speaker 1: and before. And that was my practice too, owning a

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Speaker 1: seven figure brand back in two thousands, between you when

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Speaker 1: I met her now two thousand. In two thousand, don't

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Speaker 1: trudge nobody, mass shake down, shut it down, Black people

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Speaker 1: What is running through your by old law, your faith

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Speaker 1: what were you thinking in March when all this is

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Speaker 1: going down? Kansice? So actually in March, um, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say I heard a very breakdown. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to speak to that over myself. But I had

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Speaker 1: about three days when I was here. I couldn't think

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Speaker 1: de straight. I was crying. I was just like, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? So I had about a three day meltdown. Um.

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Speaker 1: And after all three days, I got myself together and

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you know my bus and books

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Speaker 1: go on, you know, I see after about my business. Um.

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Speaker 1: So basically we went heavy heavy or retail. We're just

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Speaker 1: doing really really heavy on retail of you know, we

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Speaker 1: started feeling hand center tide and we started seeing bad

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Speaker 1: we were selling at home, you know, facial kids. We

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Speaker 1: an audience there. Um. And we just went crazy heavy

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, ra Sean McDonald. So, so first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is what I love about you, so Richan, My

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Speaker 1: business is basically touching people. So I pivoted. I had

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Speaker 1: to pivot, and so and doing that the mask, you know,

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Speaker 1: which is a visionary move. The hand sanitizers, which is

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Speaker 1: another visionary move because guess what, COVID nineteen is not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. It's not so mask is going to be

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Speaker 1: part of our life, our lives, even if they get

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Speaker 1: a virus vaccine, it's still gonna be where I'm still

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Speaker 1: gonna go wearing a mask. I'm sorry. And so because

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Speaker 1: that because I am an African American, I am naming

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Speaker 1: that we have to be aware of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And so, like I said, you overcame that. Now what

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Speaker 1: snapped you out of that? That little three day funk?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the a three day funk, you know

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Speaker 1: when you felt sorry for yourself. I ain't gonna call

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Speaker 1: a nervous break there, because we all have those moments. Candice,

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Speaker 1: you know where everything's going good and and you and

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Speaker 1: you and you know you you got ready for you

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Speaker 1: wasn't ready for. You know, here's like you saw a

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Speaker 1: common canvas, but you didn't want to playing for because

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Speaker 1: it was too much thought into it. And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's the part that you slapped yourself on the back.

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Speaker 1: Go snap by this, stupid you can do this. I

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Speaker 1: actually what's snapped me out of it? Um As? I'll

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Speaker 1: beat him on on Instagram? And she was, you know,

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Speaker 1: heavily marketing her lifty and heavily marketing her book, you know,

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Speaker 1: and she showed up every day showing people, be telling

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Speaker 1: people about the book. You know, do tell me any

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Speaker 1: people aout the Lifty? And I just thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: you know, I gotta continue to run my business no

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Speaker 1: better what um so me just seen her those three

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Speaker 1: days to continues to show up. That gat me out

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Speaker 1: my phone and I was like, I have to run

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Speaker 1: my bus, and so you know, I just changed my

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Speaker 1: whole mindset. I took the time and say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: what can I see an offer? How can I see

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Speaker 1: a bit of value? Um and all of the things

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Speaker 1: that I can't really was a mask the hand sannarchize.

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Speaker 1: I came up with those things and turning back to

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Speaker 1: the marketplace like nothing hadn't happened before, we would walk

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Speaker 1: into handsenersize and face. We know the thing about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've seen every photo I've seen them. You're smiling,

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Speaker 1: You're looking like you're enjoying life. So to tell me

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Speaker 1: I really got you know, it really traumatized me when

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Speaker 1: this COVID thing popped up. I just don't imagine. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine your smile. Where did your smile? I go?

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Speaker 1: What did that energy going? I'm telling I lost two

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Speaker 1: hundred tho dollars um. I used to do China trips

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Speaker 1: before COVID, so I would take people who are building

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Speaker 1: aside who China know to get direct vendor to you know,

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Speaker 1: having a spot. It's expensive startup, so I used to

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Speaker 1: take stock professionals to China to meet the vendors. We

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Speaker 1: had a really big trip planed. I lost two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars in at three APO. There's another reason I

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Speaker 1: was on the phone. I also owned a team with

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Speaker 1: a truck and company. UM one of my trucks that

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Speaker 1: broke down. There was like another fourth thound of dollars week,

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Speaker 1: so there was like a two uns four you know.

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Speaker 1: It was a big loss of the three A. So

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Speaker 1: I was just in a funk. And then the COVID

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Speaker 1: was here in the Pelican, United States, and it was

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Speaker 1: just like anything would just hit me at one time,

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Speaker 1: and I just had to give myself together over the

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Speaker 1: three days. Okay, cool, the black Spot magazine, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to because we kind of got it, kind of

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Speaker 1: got started on convincing black people it's all right there,

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Speaker 1: lay down and be touched and woke up and feel good. Now,

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Speaker 1: how did you do it? How? I don't see him?

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Speaker 1: When did you find these black people? Kanvas? I've never

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Speaker 1: seen I've don't this. I've been on cruise ships. I

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Speaker 1: have not seen black people show. I've never went in

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Speaker 1: the spa and another black person was sitting in that way.

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Speaker 1: Why did you find out they found me um. I

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Speaker 1: was hearing there's a thing too. When I moved to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: you know, I targeted influences. I targeted you know, feel

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Speaker 1: every people. So you know if they shout you out,

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Speaker 1: you know the flood gates are going to open. So

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Speaker 1: that was one of my marketing strike. So all of

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Speaker 1: these people found to me um via Instagram in Facebook

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Speaker 1: with the youth of good hashtag good. Now, with that

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Speaker 1: being said, what is a good massage? Because I like

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Speaker 1: I'm telling I had that deep tissue massage love and

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Speaker 1: mercy that is so painful. I've made that mistake twice

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Speaker 1: in my life. I thought I a man up and

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Speaker 1: go through that. No, no, no, no no, that deep

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Speaker 1: tissue got something working on your job. So what is

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Speaker 1: what is a softy like me a whimp? Did you

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Speaker 1: want to lay down and do a good massage? Wake

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Speaker 1: up feeling good? You know I'm out of shape, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not. You're not gonna worry about no hamstring pools

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Speaker 1: or anything like that, or any muscles that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: fly out or my arm ain't gonna just fly back

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Speaker 1: and just slap you because you you touch of really

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Speaker 1: muscular moment in my arms. What's a good massage that Kansas.

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Speaker 1: So when it comes to a good massade, it's really

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Speaker 1: not a good massade. It's a good therapist. It's a

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Speaker 1: good because a good massage therapist, like whoever he's doing

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Speaker 1: your massage, they need to be deal. So if you

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Speaker 1: come to me and I do the proper consultation and

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Speaker 1: you're telling me, hey, I had it, and even if

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Speaker 1: you had a depiction massade and you hated it, your

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Speaker 1: therapist should have asked you, hey, it's pressure. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: if you're in pain, you can ease up. You know

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Speaker 1: what you want. But I tell I tell most people, um,

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Speaker 1: you can get a relaxation massage, but you get it

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Speaker 1: with trigger points. So I definitely, I'm definitely going to

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02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 1: relax you. But less you say your can been hurt

2305
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 1: before your show to have been hurt, I'm gonna put

2306
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more empetus on those points and how

2307
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: to trigger point um to relieve the pain for you.

2308
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 1: That the majority of the masthod is going to be relaxation,

2309
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: So I am not hurting you. So you gotta make

2310
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: sure you let your therapies know exactly what you want

2311
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: in any time throwing the pasage. Anybody who listens to you,

2312
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 1: if you are in pain, make sure you let your

2313
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: death is know because they will keep on going a

2314
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 1: oh my good oh my goodness. I'm would tell you something.

2315
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 1: I made that mistake. I will not do a deep tissue.

2316
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,200
Speaker 1: I've tried it. I thought that was I don't know

2317
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: what was running through my mind. Well, you know, and

2318
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 1: but first of all, wants the pain hits you, the

2319
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: spark experiences over with far as I'm concerned, so exactly,

2320
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because like you said, it's therapy,

2321
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you're supposed to relax. And so that's

2322
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 1: like somebody throwing cold water on you in bed. You're

2323
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 1: not gonna go back to sleep. I don't care if

2324
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: you try. You're not gonna go back to sleep. You're

2325
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna be mad, You're gonna be thinking about it. Is

2326
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: this person gonna hurt me again? Or this person gonna

2327
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 1: throw more cold water on me? They'll do they standing

2328
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:03,440
Speaker 1: over there, smiling, They won't won't join you in baid

2329
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: go to sleep. So same thing when a person who

2330
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: is a massage and me, they might ease up, but

2331
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 1: all they're gonna hit me again. Maybe they don't listen

2332
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: real well. That happened to me twice, So that's the

2333
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 1: deep teaching massage. On the other hand, I've learned the

2334
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: type of massagees that have worked for me, and I've

2335
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: been very happy experiencing the massage is now now as

2336
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: you what is the worst customer for you to come

2337
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: in there? A gruffy person, a person who is impatient person? Uh?

2338
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: What is the worst type of person to give him

2339
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: massage to? Um? The worst person who were part of

2340
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:41,120
Speaker 1: the people who weren't happy ending. That's the worst person.

2341
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 1: I myself, I tried myself on being um professional. So

2342
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, for for us as a woman, UM, you

2343
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 1: know that's our works, not even there to get a client.

2344
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 1: You know who's doing want those type of things. You

2345
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: know they don't want to cover on them. You know

2346
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 1: they want to be fully um they want us to

2347
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 1: You got worried by me. You have to tell me

2348
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,920
Speaker 1: to take closes? You can you take your clothes off? Sorry?

2349
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: Can I just lower my my my underwear to the

2350
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 1: top of my button? I just can't do that. The

2351
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: whole new thing. I'm sorry, I ken't you'd be like rash. Look, huh,

2352
02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: I got horror stories. I have horror over and I'm

2353
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: telling you I'm because of what you think that other

2354
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 1: people over my seven year UM. You know career as

2355
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:33,120
Speaker 1: a massage therapy. So there's a lot of stories with

2356
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the word client to get those Hi, client,

2357
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: do you know put us an awkward situation? Absolutely, and

2358
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 1: you have to he ain't love money here. We won't

2359
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 1: talk a moment. We have survived this moment. So now

2360
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about the second annual SPA Expot. What exactly

2361
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 1: is a SPA expot? Oh my god, So the Spot

2362
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: expo is so Here, India. To my heart, I know,

2363
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm get found it. So Deus over Here Despot is

2364
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:03,080
Speaker 1: the only black Spot explot in the world. It used

2365
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: to be a two day event, but of course it's

2366
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 1: COVID so it's only a one day event. This year.

2367
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: We also have an online option. We have over thirty

2368
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 1: yet speakers, UM and it's it's another expo in the world,

2369
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 1: but of course it's not you know, created by black

2370
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 1: people is not necessarily tired for us. So if the

2371
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: explo is different things going on UM at different times.

2372
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: So Spot proficients income, they can take UM refresh of course.

2373
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 1: It so like if somebody is a massage there, they

2374
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 1: can go towards a new class. The line had to

2375
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 1: better be a massage stairs just on the skill set level. UM.

2376
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 1: Then we have growth building classes. Hey, you know about

2377
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 1: their life insurance, you know about UM finances? Do you

2378
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 1: know about passive income? And then we also heavy heavy

2379
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: focus on marketing because I feel like everybody needs to

2380
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 1: know how to market your beunything so you can get customers.

2381
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: So it's a lot going on at one time, but

2382
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 1: it's so amazing and beauty last year into the same

2383
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 1: thing we're gonna do with So I am so honor

2384
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 1: and exciting for the spot for it's for all black

2385
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 1: spot being health and wellness professionals. UM, it's made by us,

2386
02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 1: is just for us, and it's from our vantage point.

2387
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 1: So we really can't understand how to want our businesses.

2388
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: It's not just about going to school. West have to

2389
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: be massage or facial. We need to know the business

2390
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 1: part and that's not being put enough. So we're heavily

2391
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 1: focusing on how to want the bees and out of school,

2392
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: how to scale the bus and pretty you know, a

2393
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:33,879
Speaker 1: three hundred five hundred million dollars business from heavy heavily

2394
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:40,880
Speaker 1: dedicating on that that's the only black exposed in the world. Girl,

2395
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 1: you're doing it now. Let's you know the thing about

2396
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: that I like about you first of all your personality.

2397
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: You know it's even kill even though you tell me Roshan,

2398
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 1: I've been put in a situation I just could not

2399
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 1: believe in a just so frustrated and mad when people

2400
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 1: compromise and tegives you of my business and look at

2401
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 1: me not as a business person but as a object.

2402
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: And you have to deal with that because you're just

2403
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 1: trying to be an entrepreneur and you're trying to be

2404
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur in a business that that that that that

2405
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 1: people will tell you there's no market for, and that's

2406
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: been in the black small business. Now, when did you

2407
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaker 1: feel that this could work? You said, you know something,

2408
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 1: because we only have those little moments we go I

2409
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 1: think I'm owning something. What is that I think I'm

2410
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 1: owning something? Moment hit you? Um, that was when I

2411
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 1: got on Goopon. I am a black Spot owner for

2412
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 1: Missilcy and I got one Goopon. When I first reached

2413
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 1: out to Boupan, they told me that they couldn't help me.

2414
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 1: It was nothing for me. I was about okay um.

2415
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 1: And months later they end up calling me back saying, hey,

2416
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 1: we have an opening. We want to feed you you um.

2417
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 1: And I got a groupon because I was just like

2418
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, small time and at the time, and I

2419
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 1: got on there and I want to say, I'm a

2420
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: like six thousand dollars in two days. It was my

2421
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:57,320
Speaker 1: first time making it type of money. They had you

2422
02:08:57,360 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 1: back in like maybe three dollanon, leaving a two thousand

2423
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,840
Speaker 1: and toy yo um. And that's when it hit media like, hey,

2424
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm onto something and I made it six thousand in

2425
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,600
Speaker 1: two days. That that's what it was. You're rubbing on

2426
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: some people looking through days when your hands are working,

2427
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 1: you're doing like what twelve hour shifts you you had

2428
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 1: them and what groupon sales? The gift card to your

2429
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 1: spot so they they pay you before you ever do

2430
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 1: the third girl. So you was getting that money that

2431
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:31,240
Speaker 1: that that that they say mailbox money. You weren't even

2432
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 1: working for that money yet, not even well now you

2433
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 1: know have training the roads at that then. Um, anything

2434
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 1: you sold in a four day one day, you got

2435
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 1: a from our present of the upfront. So like My

2436
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 1: first shift they ever made me was like six thousand

2437
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 1: dollars um and that's when I was like, okay, I'm

2438
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 1: going into something here. That was my eye opening when

2439
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 1: I got a groupon. That's that's that's impressive. So so

2440
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: can you give us a date on the news letter

2441
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 1: going out this wind stay. I'd like to feature your

2442
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:08,960
Speaker 1: SPA Black Spa and second annual in there. Can you

2443
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 1: send me some banners, some links so we can get

2444
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 1: the world. I I'm not saying, you know you gotta

2445
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:17,560
Speaker 1: be You've been successful without Rashan McDonald's money making conversation.

2446
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but that's why I built the franchise, because

2447
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 1: I want to take entrepreneurs like you and realize that

2448
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: you have a place. If you have something you want

2449
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 1: to promote, just come to Rashan. Just come to h

2450
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: for free. Now. I'm not I'm gonna charge people for

2451
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:33,960
Speaker 1: this because I got the blessing. My blessing is I'm

2452
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 1: talking to you. My blessing is that I wake up

2453
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: every day to have a conversation and realize that I

2454
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:40,600
Speaker 1: can make a difference in this world. And when I

2455
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: talk to the individual like you who have who are

2456
02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 1: who is redefining the game. Because, yeah, I've been in

2457
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 1: this business with Steve Harvey. We did a lot of

2458
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 1: things together on radio, and the one thing that always

2459
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:56,880
Speaker 1: frustrated frustrated me was the perception of black people of

2460
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 1: what people think of us, you know, and it plays

2461
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: yeah in the social and the civil unrest that we

2462
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:07,000
Speaker 1: have out there, but they don't see us in technology.

2463
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, we get no respect there. We get no

2464
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: respect in the sciences. You know, we get no you know,

2465
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 1: they feel that we're you know, on the average, they're

2466
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: good black people and they're bad black people. You know

2467
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 1: that perception. And then when you tell me about the

2468
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 1: spot industry, I joke and I said, and I'm telling

2469
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:27,920
Speaker 1: the absolute truth. But then if nobody tries and makes

2470
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 1: an attempt to create that market and has a value

2471
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 1: proposition that the market says we want to be a

2472
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:37,680
Speaker 1: part of, then it cannot happen. And you've done that. Congratulations.

2473
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 1: I really wanted to say that as part of my

2474
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 1: intro to you and telling you that, hey, you are

2475
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,840
Speaker 1: a winner and keep winning because of the fact that

2476
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 1: you're doing something that was that people say. You said, Richard,

2477
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 1: I was a waitress with thirteen years Okay, I just

2478
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 1: got tirer knowing that on Thanksgiving them gona get this.

2479
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: On New Year's even I'm gonna get this Valentine's they

2480
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this, uh Easter weekend, get there. I

2481
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 1: know the dates. I know him, I know him. But

2482
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, if if I know that, then guess what

2483
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:11,880
Speaker 1: you know? You know then you know it too, and

2484
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 1: you realize that you know. So this is about it.

2485
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 1: This is the top of the mountain for me. I'm

2486
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna go bet on myself. And you have bet on yourself,

2487
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: and you're about to enter into your second and you

2488
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 1: and the blessing is you're coming out of the COVID.

2489
02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 1: They're allowing you to do this. You won't have a

2490
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 1: breakdown or a moment like you had in March. The

2491
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 1: sky is to limit your futures. Bright you down in, Carbo,

2492
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 1: down there, Carbo Mexicou Yes, yea. So anything you want

2493
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:43,080
Speaker 1: to say before wrapping up, my friend and any marketing gyms,

2494
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:45,680
Speaker 1: anything you want to promote drive people to your website.

2495
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,720
Speaker 1: This is money making conversation, Kansas, hold the field. I

2496
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:53,920
Speaker 1: created this platform for you. I first want to say, um,

2497
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 1: I thank you so so much. I appreciate you for

2498
02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:00,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get one and for about number two

2499
02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 1: they can go to Google and typing. The spar Queen

2500
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:06,200
Speaker 1: Expo is the lingual pop right up so that you're

2501
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 1: kicking me out. I'm five star highly rated on Google.

2502
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 1: Gonna check me out six ft spot check can to

2503
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 1: call you to your follow me over on instagramm that

2504
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 1: is my largest real estate on integraen fix with the

2505
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 1: spot it's for a marketing field. If anybody, no matter

2506
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 1: what you are doing, you need to have a lead magnet.

2507
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 1: You need to make sure you are getting leads every

2508
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 1: single day. It is always money in your active list,

2509
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 1: So everybody needs to keep getting in mind. In all

2510
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,760
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