1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: So I've been thinking about all the housewives and how 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: many of them had an identity connected to their marriage. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: How Sonya was married to a Morgan hall Awayne was 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: married to account how um Dorinda was married to somebody 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: who had political ties and he passed away. And uh, 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Camille Grammar was married to Kelsey Grammar. And women's identities 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: being tied to men, and then had they break through 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and break free afterwards or don't or hang onto it 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and think about it and are just constantly in the 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: shadow of their former life, and they they're chasing the 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: dragon and wishing they still had that life. And I 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: was thinking about Avanna who died, and it's just just 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: falling down those tragic stairs, hitting her head, blunt force trauma. 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Those scares were the stairs were scary. I'm sure maybe 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: she was medicating. She was home for two years. It 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: just you know. And I watched this documentary on her 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: and Trump. I didn't realize that because of her connections 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: as a model and being international and being in New York, 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: that she kind of brought him into those circles. Happens 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: a lot. I know other people where one member of 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: the couple has the money and the other one has 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: sort of the the panash, either the street cred or 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: the social status, and the combination can be very strong. 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: And it seems like he signed up for a wife 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and she really elevated and helped him, and he wouldn't 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: be on the appartisan wouldn't have been the president without him. 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: But then she also became like a business partner, so 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: they probably were only talking about business. And we saw 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: that Gucci story where the wife like started being a 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: powerful figure and getting strong and and and not that 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the male figure doesn't always want that. If you watch 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: The Crown. Uh and by the way, tough shit. I'm 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: not saying, I'm just talking about it. If you watch 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: The Crown, how it seems to have bothered Charles that 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Diana was the sparkly favorite, right, so now Ivanna is 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: this darling? And now their partners, and they were on 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I think it was Oprah And someone asked Trump, I 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: think it was Oprah, I really do. Who said, well, 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: does Ivanna get paid? And he said she could buy 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: as many dresses as she wants, and apparently gutted her 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: because she felt like an equal and she was smart 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: and she was shrewd. So they get divorced. And I'm 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: not saying that it's all his fault because they probably 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and she had a shitty prenup. Uh, they get divorced, 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and you know, he signed up to have her be 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: a plus one. She was a model and beautiful, and 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: he liked all the panels she gave him. But he 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: wanted her to stay in her place, and she wanted 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: to be an equal business partner, and he didn't want 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: a business partner. He wanted a wife. And they both 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: sort of agree on the whole entire thing. She says, 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: don't get magget everything. She didn't get everything. She got 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: like ten million dollars and she had a shitty prenup, 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: and it seems like she's always been a bit scorned 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: by it, like that ruined her. I know women that 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: that that divorce really fucking gut punches them. You know, 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Sonya has been public on the show like that divorce 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: really really fucking gut punched her. And I just think 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting women whose identities are attached to their husbands 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: and then their marriages and their status, and then they 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: get divorced and the afterlife and some people really move forward, 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: break through and shine, and some people get stuck and 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: pulled back, and it's very sad. We hear a lot 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: about Megan and Harry in the media. I want to know. 65 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I was talking to Paul. I was saying to Paul, 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: did Megan and Harry, like, if we're playing a game, 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: like if we're playing tennis, did they are they up 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: right now? They're in the casino? They up right now? 69 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Meaning like, let's say they just stayed in the Royal 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Family and we're miserable and we get that they wanted 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: to get out and all of that. Let's just say 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: that Megan and Harry stayed in the Royal Family and 73 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: we felt about them the way we feel about Kate 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: and Will and they're they're okay, So let's take that score. 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Then they leave UK, you know, and and and the 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Daily Mail and the New York Post and and a 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: lot of the media can't stand them. No matter what happens. 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: She goes to visit victims, they all think it's a 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: photo up anything she does, whereas the privacy they do 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: a big, massive, multi kajillion dollar deal at Netflix, and 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: she's telling Bob Iger who wants to be in a movie, 82 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: and and Harry's pitching her for you know, the voice 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: of some Disney character and anything they do, it seems 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, they go to the they go to the 85 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Queen's jubilee, but they sit they sit several rose back. 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: That's wrong, that's right. That you know, it's up and 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: down with everyone. You know, Harper's bizarre and the liberal 88 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: media will say, you know, it's wonderful. Then the Post 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: and and and the Daily Mail and Page six and 90 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the UK publications you she's the devil incarnate. So and 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: of course this is new, like this isn't like Willis 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Simpson and the Duke of Windsor where you found out 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you know where it took a long time and that 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: was many years ago. Have these two one or not? 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: They're on the outs with them, Victoria Beckham and David Beckham. 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem great. When she was having her bridal 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: shower and giving everybody away suitcases and got in trouble 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: for being at the Carlisle having you know, giving people 99 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollar gifts, then she got in trouble. 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: And when she was like had a no more Zara party, 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: she got in trouble. So she was always a little 102 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: in trouble. And my question is net net what's the score? 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: Remember when she was hanging out with a moll and George. 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: They don't seem to be part of this. David Beckham 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: and Victoria don't seem to be part of this. So 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: what's the net net score? I just want to know, 107 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: like was it? Because they they're in big business now 108 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: and they're doing a lot. They don't have the security anymore. Uh. 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: They did the Oprah interview that didn't seem to be 110 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: that great of an idea in the aggregate in my opinion, 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: for family matters. So all in did they Are they 112 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: up in the casino or they down? Like are they 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to win back chips? Or they're up? And it's 114 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: just gravy. I just want you to tell me if 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Megan and Harry Marry are up or down, doesn't matter, 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: it's it's literally pertinent to nothing. I just want to 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: know because I was talking about it, and I come 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: to you when I want to talk about it. Okay. 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: So I went to my fiance's birthday party that his 120 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: parents threw him in Nantucket and there were women that 121 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: were in their fifties and they were very I rate 122 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: about the Kardashians just as a concept in general, like 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: just as it going on and on and never are ending. 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: And they were irate at and a win tour for 125 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: like playing in this social media space, you know, like 126 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: they felt that it was sort of a sellout for 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: everything that she had stood for and represented. And they 128 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: they thought that people like Ellen Degenerous, who are BFFs 129 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: with the Kardashians and Christi Jennera that like, these are 130 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: people that can't can't fight the funk. They weren't initially 131 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: close with this group, but you can't ignore the numbers, 132 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that the numbers don't lie, and that basically everybody can 133 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: be bought. There saying that every you know, bartenders to 134 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: get a good job, they look at their social media followings. 135 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Like if you're not performing from a social media standpoint, 136 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: then you have a much it's so sad, you have 137 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: a much um fewer, a much lesser possibility of getting 138 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: a job, job, or being in a magazine or probably 139 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: even being on a television show. Think about it. You 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: want to work, you want to get a play on Broadway, 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: They're going to take the person who has a higher 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: social media following. You want to do a TV show, 143 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: same story, you want to work at a bar, you 144 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: want to work at a restaurant, you want to work 145 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: at a magazine, you want to work at an insurance company. 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the place take the person with the greater 147 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: social media numbers? And is that right or is that wrong? 148 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, people were pissed that Addison Ray and like 149 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: the Demilias were at the met Ball because isn't it 150 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be super exclusive? And while I'm at at 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: people are getting pissed that all over TikTok. So many 152 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: people have access to these luxury brands that used to 153 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: have these very bespoke, private special handbags and only certain 154 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: people could get and now um everyone has access to 155 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: them there more and and I saw an article today 156 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: with a girl saying, that's not what the luxury brands want. 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: They don't want all of these TikTok influencers talking about 158 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: how you get a bag, how the system works, like 159 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Arams has a system that you know won't share because 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, but that they have a 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: special system as to how you get coveted items and 162 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: they are an elevated brand and they don't want TikTok 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: talking about that all the time. In addition, I bet 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: these brands are not thrilled about all over social media 165 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: people buying fakes bags, talking about them, saying where they 166 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: get them, and you can actually buy them through social media. 167 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm floored. It's crazy, like Canal Street is on social media. 168 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: So what does that do for value of items? Does 169 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: that increase the value of your luxury items because more 170 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: people are talking about them, want them know about them, 171 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: or being educated on them, or does it decrease the 172 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: value because they're not as bespoke and unique. And I 173 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: remember years ago when Chanelle all the girls on the 174 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Hills were wearing Chanel bags and I was thinking, is 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: that good because so many people are watching and then 176 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: they're going to go in and buy the little makeup 177 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: bags and the non difficult bags to get, or is 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: that bad because it makes it more accessible. I literally 179 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I think there'd be there could be a 180 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: business class on that. I think it's fascinating and I think, um, 181 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: I think these brands are doing a decent job navigating that. 182 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: To be honest, I am I am an air Mes fan. 183 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I think it is high quality. I think it is 184 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: very expensive, but it's one of the expensive brands where 185 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: the quality of the item it will outlive you. Chanelle 186 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: has high quality leather, and there are items that you 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: could have there there will also outlive you. And also 188 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: people go by the fake ease and then you buy 189 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a fakey and what are you gonna do with that? 190 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: You want to get rid of it, what are you 191 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna resell it, what are you're gonna do? 192 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Give it to give it to somebody? Like then you're 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: giving away fake And they call it dupes now, And 194 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: I hate that word so much. I hate the word 195 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: dupe because it means knockoff. It means sort of fake, 196 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: and it means that the originator isn't getting like the 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: person in the company that's copying the original. It could 198 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: be in makeup, it could be in bags. It's all 199 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: over Amazon. The company copying the original is getting all 200 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: the credit for making a dupe of something that was 201 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: an original. And listen, I was a victim of Cheetah brands, 202 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: of the Skinny Girl, Margharita. It was copied. It's unnecessary evil. 203 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: But I don't talk about quote unquote dupes on the 204 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: beauty space, on my beauty Reviews, on TikTok because I 205 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: think it's disrespecting the originator. I don't love every single 206 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: makeup that Charlotte Tilbury has done, but I respect that 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: she's been the first and that she's an inventor and 208 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: she's the originator. So I'm not running around promoting copycats 209 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: of hers. Doesn't mean that other people can't do a 210 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: similar color of something. I mean that does happen to 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: inspired by, but it just means a complete knockoff. I 212 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: don't know. It never it's right with me, It never 213 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: sits right. But but but but it's it's a fraud 214 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: because I'm sitting on a couch right now. That is 215 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's the it's the Anna wind Tours speech 216 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: in Devilware's product. To be honest, I'm sitting on a 217 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: couch right now where Miranda Priestley Miranda Priestle's speech by 218 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: by Meryl Street. I'm sitting at a couch. It's like 219 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: a linen. It's somewhat looks like a slipcover. It's probably 220 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: inspired by a restoration hardware. I don't think it's a dupe, 221 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: but I'm sure that the reason this couch was designed 222 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: was because of restoration hardware, so we're all part of it. 223 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: I guess it's just calling things a complete exact knock off. 224 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that loves me the wrong way, and I don't know. 225 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: What do you think