Speaker 1: Walking back in. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: I hope all of you had a good Thanksgiving. Just
Speaker 1: talking with Shawn Merriman off air about his Thanksgiving he
Speaker 1: was on the East Coast. Appreciate him joining us here
Speaker 1: to break down everything that happened in the world of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Sean, how was the Thanksgiving? A man? You
Speaker 1: have a good time. Yeah, it was good man. You know,
Speaker 1: anytime I get back home to Maryland and see the
Speaker 1: family get a free meal at my Thanksgiving my grandmother's house,
Speaker 1: I'm happy about that. So it was good. Uh. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite thing about? Like, did you grow up playing
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving football, like, you know, out with the friends, family,
Speaker 1: everything else? Uh? And did you play at all this
Speaker 1: year or at what age were you like officially not
Speaker 1: involved in like a family football game? You know what? Uh?
Speaker 1: If I got drafted when I got drafted by the
Speaker 1: Charges in two thousands five, but you know, moved out there,
Speaker 1: so I was West Coasting at for a while. So
Speaker 1: the only time that would get a chance to go
Speaker 1: back home was during a bye week or we were
Speaker 1: allowed to have three or four days off. But otherwise, man,
Speaker 1: you know, over LC Gold going over. Danien's house is
Speaker 1: still in the plate here. Let their families cook and
Speaker 1: just go buy for the but the sweep off. You know.
Speaker 1: Uh Lorenz O'Neil, who's a super good guy. So I
Speaker 1: live in Nashville, and he played for the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: for several years. He's part of the Music City Miracle.
Speaker 1: You know. He caught the ball and then handed it
Speaker 1: to Frank Wai Chick to throw back. We did a
Speaker 1: Music City Miracle reunion with Lorenz O'Neil, Frank why Chick,
Speaker 1: Kevin Dyson, all those dudes, super good guys. And as
Speaker 1: a part of that, we did an interview with Lorenz
Speaker 1: O'Neill and he put me in a sleeper hold and
Speaker 1: I legitimately think Lorenz O'Neil could have killed me in
Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds. Is he one of the toughest dudes. Like,
Speaker 1: if you had to just pick somebody pound for pound,
Speaker 1: it's tough to top Lorenz O'Neill, isn't it. It's to
Speaker 1: than uh than O'Neil. Uh. Just one of the one
Speaker 1: of the quickest stories I can tell you is I
Speaker 1: came in camp late as a rookie. I held out
Speaker 1: because of contract issues. My first day of being issued
Speaker 1: pads was a fan night practice all the fans, about
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred four thousand fans. On the sideline of practice,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to go against Loneil one on
Speaker 1: one back against line back because I blow him up, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hyped up and everybody, uh is screaming
Speaker 1: and the rookies coming in. Our top draft pick just
Speaker 1: made a big play, and I think I've committed one
Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes down in my life because that
Speaker 1: very next play, Lorenz O'Neill had moved to running back
Speaker 1: over that I was supposed to go against, and he
Speaker 1: went back up with me again. And I've never been
Speaker 1: hit so hard in my face, uh, in my life,
Speaker 1: where my blood was rushing to my fingertips and face,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what the hell that was. We
Speaker 1: created what we called the brother in law and practice.
Speaker 1: We could never hit each other like that again because
Speaker 1: Loneil was just a different animals and I don't I've
Speaker 1: never played against anybody like him, especially at that full
Speaker 1: back position. For people out there who are listening to
Speaker 1: us right now, what does it feel like to have
Speaker 1: a legitimate, you know, just man to man hit in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Because a lot of people can see it
Speaker 1: on television, they might even be able to hear it.
Speaker 1: I think even if you sit in the crowd, unless
Speaker 1: you're right down on top of the field, it's hard
Speaker 1: to really even understand the speed and intensity. Certainly television
Speaker 1: doesn't do it justice. But how would you describe what
Speaker 1: that feels like? You know, for everybody out there who
Speaker 1: will never actually experience a legitimate, full on NFL hit, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the funny thing is play you hear the
Speaker 1: helmets cracking on the field, right, I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: of the things you hear. But what you don't hear
Speaker 1: and understand is the ones that are the deep thumping
Speaker 1: sounds are the ones that hurt the most, not the loudest.
Speaker 1: The loudest when you hit guys with your hell man
Speaker 1: and your helmet and helmet or helmet or shoulder pad.
Speaker 1: You hear that the thumping ones are body to body
Speaker 1: and that's the ones that you can really not a
Speaker 1: guy out right. So uh. And when you hit those
Speaker 1: deep thumping sounds and normally comes with a fullback to
Speaker 1: a linebacker position or a guy crossing the middle and
Speaker 1: he's going to break the play up at a high speed,
Speaker 1: uh position, man, and have that adrinaline rush. You don't
Speaker 1: feel it right there on the spot, but man, when
Speaker 1: you walk away, it's like, Okay. In my days, or
Speaker 1: I got a concussion door, I have whatever, and so
Speaker 1: you know, manage, and then you get guys that are
Speaker 1: like Lorenzo Neil. And I tell you I've been against
Speaker 1: a lot of fullbacks in my damn my life, and
Speaker 1: I never still to this day, seen anybody like Lorenzo.
Speaker 1: Now he's up for the Hall of Fame. I think
Speaker 1: still at some point, man, I believe you should get
Speaker 1: in just based on I mean, because I hear that
Speaker 1: from so many people who played with or against him,
Speaker 1: is just what a freak of nature he was in
Speaker 1: terms of his ability to both take and deliver big
Speaker 1: hits and pop right back up and just be I mean,
Speaker 1: a different kind of dude. Well he was. He was
Speaker 1: my workout partner. He was my work got partner as
Speaker 1: a rookie when I came in. I believe he was
Speaker 1: in his twelve thirteenth year. And I will live with
Speaker 1: him four days a week after practice as our second workout,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't keep up with him. So that should
Speaker 1: tell you what level Lorenzo O'Neill was on. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: We're talking with Shawn Merriman. Go listen to the lights
Speaker 1: Out podcast podcast, which is a part of the I
Speaker 1: Heart Podcast network. All right, there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: different games I want to get into with you, but
Speaker 1: I think probably there were several super significant ones, but
Speaker 1: the one that got the most attention. Chiefs get up
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing nobody can cover Tyreek Hill go on to
Speaker 1: hang on for the win. Four. If I told you
Speaker 1: right now, Chiefs or the field to win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: do you think the Chiefs are good enough that you
Speaker 1: would take them over the rest of the NFL combined. Well,
Speaker 1: so I'll put it this way. I do believe that
Speaker 1: the Steelers are the best team in football right now
Speaker 1: because they're the most balanced team right uh now. The
Speaker 1: scariest team would be the Kansas City Chiefs because of
Speaker 1: what they have, the weapons that they have, I mean,
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill. We we've you know, we've seen some some
Speaker 1: fast wide receivers. We've seen some guys. We we've never
Speaker 1: seen anybody who has a gear like this and actually
Speaker 1: it's a complete receiver where they can run route um,
Speaker 1: you know you if you pick your poison with him right,
Speaker 1: because they had he had one play where he ran
Speaker 1: a quick out and up there. Normally when you went
Speaker 1: running out and up you can you take two steps right.
Speaker 1: So he's just putting this foot in the ground and
Speaker 1: he's going He's basically telling telling the cornerback that I'm
Speaker 1: faster than you. You know what I'm doing. I'm fastering you,
Speaker 1: and it's nothing you can do about it. So when
Speaker 1: you have guys like that, it's scarier because they're explosive.
Speaker 1: I do still believe that. You know, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about going all the way to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: the most complete team, then the team you're gonna have
Speaker 1: the most problem with. I still would say the Steelers
Speaker 1: because they're so balanced. You don't know in which phase
Speaker 1: is game they're gonna beat you in. You know what
Speaker 1: you're getting out of the Cancer in Chief, you know,
Speaker 1: the Patrick the Homes you gotta contain him. Tybery Hill,
Speaker 1: you gotta contain him. And you know between the hashes,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is gonna get his catches. So between those
Speaker 1: three you can figure it out. The Steelers. They're too balanced.
Speaker 1: So the Bucks are now sitting at seven and five,
Speaker 1: they have four games left. I believe I'm doing my
Speaker 1: math right and I'm looking at their schedule Vikings, Falcons,
Speaker 1: Lions and Falcons again. Do they need to win all
Speaker 1: four of those? Doesn't matter? Like, have you seen enough
Speaker 1: to know that the Bucks are not a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: contender in the NFC or you still buying that even
Speaker 1: sitting at seven and five, they could potentially still make
Speaker 1: a run because it's pretty clear now that they're not
Speaker 1: gonna win the NFC South, So they'd have to win
Speaker 1: three out of the wild card around and that's fine,
Speaker 1: and that's fine for them. You know, you're talking about
Speaker 1: a team that was a simple uh with superstars when
Speaker 1: the wall seats. So you know, we're accustomed to seeing
Speaker 1: this happen. We've seen a bunch of super teams in football. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it makes it even worse when you don't have
Speaker 1: a off season. And I said that before, you know,
Speaker 1: it takes a little time. Look, Brady's been in the
Speaker 1: system for two decades where he's done the same thing.
Speaker 1: Practicely been the same way, the playbook has been the same.
Speaker 1: So now you're get into a new system with uh
Speaker 1: one of your guys you played with Gorenkowski, but everybody else, No,
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out. So I'm not I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: And also if you look back at some of these games,
Speaker 1: he's getting hit, he's absolutely getting hit one of those interceptions.
Speaker 1: I be least two of those interceptions he was hit
Speaker 1: on those plays. Uh So I can't, you know, completely
Speaker 1: put it on Brady um. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: when you and when you and there should look they
Speaker 1: probably should have been nowhere close in that game. They
Speaker 1: want you know they lost twenty, but truthfully, if you
Speaker 1: look at that game, they probably should have been blown
Speaker 1: out the way that the way the Chiefs are moving
Speaker 1: the ball, especially in the early on in the game,
Speaker 1: they should have been blown out. So anytime you give
Speaker 1: Brady a chance he gets his foot into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: then they automatically become also a dangerous team. They might
Speaker 1: be clicking clicking later on during the season going into
Speaker 1: that playoffs stretch. We're talking to Sean Merriman that Lights
Speaker 1: Out podcast. Encourage you to check that out. Other biggest game,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, I want to talk to you about as
Speaker 1: a defensive guy trying to tackle Derrick Henry. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much of the game you got to watch
Speaker 1: between the Titans and the Colts. The Colts have had
Speaker 1: the Titans number for a while in that division. And
Speaker 1: then Derrick Henry came out in the first half, and
Speaker 1: I know the Colts had some defensive injuries, but he
Speaker 1: just absolutely took over. It was thirty fourteen at the half.
Speaker 1: There was never really any suggestion of a game in
Speaker 1: the second half at all. What does that tell you?
Speaker 1: Titans get to eight and three may actually win the divisions.
Speaker 1: Both teams still have five games to go, and both
Speaker 1: teams have got some quality wins. But the Titans went
Speaker 1: on the road against Indie and just took control coming
Speaker 1: off of a really physical, tough game against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: You know, um, one thing about somebody that can run
Speaker 1: the ball like Derrick Henry and that Titans offense is
Speaker 1: is the moralizing for defense. There's there's absolutely nothing worse
Speaker 1: than a guy just then a team just lining up
Speaker 1: against you know, they're running the ball and there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do about it. And I don't care how
Speaker 1: great that defense is. Uh, At some point in times,
Speaker 1: you're going to break down, especially if the offense is
Speaker 1: not doing something on the offense side of ball, they're
Speaker 1: not moving the ball, or at least worst case, uh
Speaker 1: have some kind of possession uh you know problem where
Speaker 1: you can just keep just hold the ball, keep it
Speaker 1: out of their hands. I mean, that's what you want
Speaker 1: to do. But there's nothing like you know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even have to be into football,
Speaker 1: right You don't even have to know the game at
Speaker 1: this point to know what they're gonna line up and do.
Speaker 1: You don't have to see formation set or down the distance.
Speaker 1: You know, coming to the game, what's their bread and butter,
Speaker 1: and what they can do right and and and being
Speaker 1: able to open it up, open it up for the
Speaker 1: passing game and everything else that they're doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tammy Hill is a good quarterback, but he's not Joe Montana.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not a stellar quarterback. But when you
Speaker 1: run the ball that way, he looks like because they
Speaker 1: the pressure is off. So you know, I always say this,
Speaker 1: the rest of people. A championship team is being able
Speaker 1: to run the ball, to play great defense, and they're
Speaker 1: doing just that. We're talking to Sean Maryman. Now, I
Speaker 1: know it's Monday, but a lot of people were watching
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and we were off like a lot of
Speaker 1: people were on Thursday and Friday. If you were Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: what would you do with the Cowboys at this point
Speaker 1: as they now have fallen, you know, completely out of
Speaker 1: the mix right now, I believe they'd be around the
Speaker 1: third pick overall. Would you already be looking ahead and
Speaker 1: thinking potentially about trying to make a move to get
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields? Or would you be thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll just signed back to a long term deal. What's
Speaker 1: the solution for the Cowboys? You know? To be honest,
Speaker 1: I think that that's so far down the road and
Speaker 1: what they're looking at at this point. They need to evaluate,
Speaker 1: right because they have these these last were four or
Speaker 1: five games left. They need to evaluate who they're going
Speaker 1: to keep there and who needs to be out of there?
Speaker 1: Right They they need to look at the film, look
Speaker 1: the total the season and as a whole, and go
Speaker 1: down the lines and list all the big contracts and
Speaker 1: all the all the people they've paid out, all the
Speaker 1: people that they were thinking about moving as not performing.
Speaker 1: Right now, they need to start looking at Clarenhouse and
Speaker 1: that needs to be friend, I'm talking about head coach included.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying even even for year one
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy, you're like that, I've seen enough to
Speaker 1: know that this isn't working. Yeah, because it's it's not
Speaker 1: a play calling issue. It's not anything you know he has.
Speaker 1: The players aren't playing for him. They just aren't. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at the sidelines, look at how they give
Speaker 1: up long plays, look at the attitudes. I mean, gosh,
Speaker 1: when and they Dalton got hit, there was no players
Speaker 1: around and no one helped him up, no one came
Speaker 1: to his defense. Yeah, so that there's a lot. I
Speaker 1: know Mike McCarthy came out and tried to uh warter
Speaker 1: that down a little bit, but that doesn't happen on
Speaker 1: good football teams. And right now they're just not they're
Speaker 1: not responding to his coaching style. So you know, you
Speaker 1: you start from the top down, is it coaches that
Speaker 1: we need to move on? And then you started working
Speaker 1: down to the playoffs players, maybe some guys in the
Speaker 1: front office who knows. We're talking to Sean Merriman. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen I'm sure the answer is no, because
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's ever seen anything like it what
Speaker 1: the Broncos had to do at the quarterback position yesterday.
Speaker 1: And do you think that it's going to send a
Speaker 1: message to other NFL teams as it pertains to how
Speaker 1: important this distancing is, because I mean, effectively, the Broncos
Speaker 1: had zero chance to win this game as soon as
Speaker 1: they had a positive test. Yeah, no, absolutely, And and
Speaker 1: because this is all new to them, it's new to everybody.
Speaker 1: You need somebody to be that guinea pig before you say, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we need to plan for this because if
Speaker 1: this happens to us this, we can't let it go
Speaker 1: down like this, right, So going forward, I think that
Speaker 1: everyone needs to look and start getting guys ready as
Speaker 1: that third string quarterback or maybe a wide receiver who
Speaker 1: really really played quarterback in college, getting him playing some
Speaker 1: scout team quarterback in uh in practice. I mean, you
Speaker 1: started the great teams to start preparing for the worst.
Speaker 1: And I believe that was the worst situation that any
Speaker 1: NFL team could ever be put in. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean they ended up with a hundred
Speaker 1: and twelve total yards, but they had twelve yards passing
Speaker 1: one for nine two picks. I mean it was hard
Speaker 1: to watch. Effectively, the Saints got a guaranteed win in
Speaker 1: that scenario, and we're able to continue to to to
Speaker 1: dominate as they go forward. A team that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are talking about, the Browns are now eight
Speaker 1: and three? Are they for real as a team that
Speaker 1: can get into the postseason first? And if they get there,
Speaker 1: can they win a game? Have you seen enough to
Speaker 1: make you believe that the eight and three Browns are
Speaker 1: for real? Yes? And and I go back to the
Speaker 1: same thing I said about Tennessee. The recipe for winning
Speaker 1: football games and and putting yourself in a position to
Speaker 1: win a championship is being able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: Being able to run the ball, and being able to
Speaker 1: play in great defense. Um, you know, we had we've
Speaker 1: seen some players that I believe it was you know,
Speaker 1: Baker had a wide open slant right in the in
Speaker 1: tone and missed it. So he I mean, he's playing good.
Speaker 1: He's not playing on anywhere close to being great. But
Speaker 1: when you're running the ball the way they running the
Speaker 1: ball and playing the defense to their plan, you're gonna
Speaker 1: win a lot of football games. And that takes the
Speaker 1: pressure off of everyone else. So yes, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about that division, if you're talking about uh, them putting
Speaker 1: getting their foot in the door and being a problem. Now,
Speaker 1: the bigger issue is they're gonna face some pains here
Speaker 1: coming up, and they're getting the playoffs and do their things.
Speaker 1: They're gonna face some guy. They might have a first
Speaker 1: round exit. It's just it's just the fact of the matter.
Speaker 1: But I gotta give them credit. They they picked it up. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they lost O'Dell you know some weeks several
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and they found a way to get to
Speaker 1: get Juice landry Man the ball, and I think that
Speaker 1: was that was really a chief of Juice Landry Man
Speaker 1: is playing incredible. We're talking to Sean Merriman. He's the
Speaker 1: Lights Out podcast I Heeart Podcast Network. Your Chargers team
Speaker 1: you played with for so many years, continue to lose
Speaker 1: in so many different interesting ways. They they had a
Speaker 1: lot of success moving the football against the Bills, came
Speaker 1: up short again. They had that crazy play where it
Speaker 1: looked like they were trying to the quarterback was sneaking
Speaker 1: in the Did you see that play The offensive line
Speaker 1: was dropping back to past pass block. I think it
Speaker 1: was what's going to happen there? Do you think Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn keeps his job? Obviously there's lots of reason for
Speaker 1: optimism with Justin Herbert, But what exactly is going on
Speaker 1: with the Chargers? And are you buying the Bills as
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender in any way out of the
Speaker 1: a f C. Well, you know, first and foremost, um,
Speaker 1: there's there's so many bright spots with the Charges that
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost sickening when you look at the
Speaker 1: record that they have in the seasons they're having, losing
Speaker 1: what three or four games within six points? That really
Speaker 1: makes you sick as a coach, as a as an owner,
Speaker 1: as a general manager. That has to make you sick
Speaker 1: because those three or four games, if you can pull
Speaker 1: those out, you're looking at it a completely different season. Now.
Speaker 1: The bright spots you have you got obviously Justine Herbert,
Speaker 1: and he's not he's playing at a pace where we
Speaker 1: haven't seen as a rookie probably ever. But you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Hunter, Henry Keenan Allen, these guys are
Speaker 1: just planning incredible and you gotta get in the ball.
Speaker 1: The problem is, and not everybody, but you have some
Speaker 1: spots on that defense, there's just not getting it done.
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa came out was vocal a few about a
Speaker 1: week or two ago about God needs to step it up,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that he did that, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's very vocal. So when you
Speaker 1: have guys who are not vocal, who really don't talk
Speaker 1: much in the locker room and they say something, everybody listens.
Speaker 1: And the way Joey bose was going out there playing
Speaker 1: and getting after Josh Holla and he was in his
Speaker 1: face all day long, you know, they need to get
Speaker 1: other guys in that defense to step up and play
Speaker 1: the way he's playing right now. So they As far
Speaker 1: as Anthony Lynn, you got a couple more games, I
Speaker 1: believe that to go out and prove what you can
Speaker 1: do for the rest of the season. And I don't
Speaker 1: call for anybody to get fired, not just to charge,
Speaker 1: but anybody LFL. I don't. I don't like to say
Speaker 1: this guy should get fired, that you guys get fired,
Speaker 1: But it's such a performance business and you look at
Speaker 1: that team that they have, there's no way in hell
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be winning more football games. Period. Last question
Speaker 1: for you we're talking to Shawn Merriman. Appreciate him joining
Speaker 1: us here breaking down everything in the world of the NFL. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different sort of major issues
Speaker 1: going on with the NFL. Right now, Tuesday, we have
Speaker 1: a game between the Ravens and the Steelers. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine what it would be like to be playing in
Speaker 1: this type of season and how much more challenging would
Speaker 1: it be than almost any year when we know it's
Speaker 1: hard to play in the NFL, but can you imagine
Speaker 1: not knowing what day you're playing, what guys are playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've ever seen anything like this? No, no,
Speaker 1: And I don't think we're gonna say anything like this again. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is something that came up that uh, we not
Speaker 1: just NFL, we as a country trying to figure in
Speaker 1: the fan thing out. We're just trying to figure out white, right,
Speaker 1: And that doesn't change anything when you're talking about the NFL.
Speaker 1: I bought them. We even getting up and getting the
Speaker 1: season going in the first place. It's pretty amazing. Honestly.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are giving them grief,
Speaker 1: and I see some of the players like, Hey, what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? Well, guess what you know,
Speaker 1: there's millions of people out here that's not wor kame,
Speaker 1: millions of people trying to figure this whole thing out.
Speaker 1: They've found a way to get it going and get
Speaker 1: you know, move forward, because the truth of the matter is,
Speaker 1: we don't know what this is gonna look like six
Speaker 1: months from now. It could be the same way. We
Speaker 1: have no idea. So for them to do what they're doing,
Speaker 1: I paused them and the players have to understand that.
Speaker 1: People have to understand in general, uh, that they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure this thing out for the first time too.
Speaker 1: You think the NFL like having the Broncos with no
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I mean, that doesn't make them more money.
Speaker 1: You know, that's you know, that's bad football, that turns
Speaker 1: away fans, that has people griping about what's going on.
Speaker 1: So you know, they're trying to figure it out as
Speaker 1: everyone else trying to figure out. So I appaued them
Speaker 1: trying to uh to keep this thing going and not
Speaker 1: shutting down and just figuring it out along the way.
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I think you know, most of
Speaker 1: American life and certainly American business is about finding out
Speaker 1: a way how to do something. And the NFL has
Speaker 1: been imperfect, like all things created by men are. But
Speaker 1: to be able to get as many games as they have,
Speaker 1: even amid these challenges, and oftentimes even with fans present,
Speaker 1: I think it's a hell of story. Uh. Shawn Merriman,
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Thank you for coming with us, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you had a good Thanksgiving. My man,
Speaker 1: you gotta shame me. Thanks having