WEBVTT - Bonus #1: Generations 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.200 Welcome, welcome, all you listeners out there. I'm Bobby see 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.640 Us and I play Marco. That's a wrap on our 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.920 story for the season, but we still have more content 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.600 for you. This is a bonus behind the scenes episode 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:23.799 about the making of Here Comes the Break Right. This week, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.159 we have two special segments giving you a glimpse of 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.080 the actors behind the characters, each reflecting on the show 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.920 and its themes from a different perspective. First up, a 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.239 conversation between a Santy Black are Reuben and Guile from 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.120 the hit podcast Teenager Therapy, which we recorded back in 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:49.839 May right as the show debut. Have a listen. All right, Um, okay, 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:54.800 So I got a couple of questions for you. First 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.840 question I want to ask is why was it important 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.840 for you guys to put together this podcast. You know, 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.680 I have my assumptions and you know why. I can decipher, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.039 but I want to hear from you. Yeah. So it 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.240 was really interesting because I think when I thought of 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.520 Teenage Therapy, it was sort of a a shower thought. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.520 I was like, I was listening to this other podcast 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.560 that had a similar concept, but it was like with 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.319 the married couple, And when it came to my podcast, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.000 I was like in the shower and then I thought, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.880 pulled up maybe there was like a teenage version of 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.759 this that might be interesting, because I thought it would 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.160 be interesting to listen in on what other teenagers are 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.040 going through, what they're experiencing, what they're not and stuff 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.479 like that. And so when I first started this podcast, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.840 it kind of just came as I think it's something 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.160 that I wish existed and it doesn't, so I might 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.800 as well just making myself. And we didn't really have 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.240 any deeper meaning to it. But I think as we 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.360 released the first episode, got feedback from our listeners and 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.080 started to realize, like what this meant to people is 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.240 when we really came to understand that there's actually a 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.160 little bit something deeper here, and there's values in this 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.640 that we could pull out and like talk about and 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.320 like expand those values to our community. So even though 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.200 we didn't start with these, now the values that we 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.400 really hold is vulnerability and showing vulnerability, having the courage 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.680 to be vulnerable, and just letting people know you're not alone. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.680 You know, there's others going through this, not just you. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:17.160 It's something that's really resonated with our audience. Yeah, when 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.160 did you start to see that people were really relating 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.080 and listening in. Was there a certain subject that you 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.120 guys tackled that really made you realize, Oh, yeah, this 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:27.680 is you know, this is helping a lot of people 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.800 and we gotta keep going. Yeah. Honestly, it was like 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.200 even after that first episode, we had a pretty good 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.680 like first episode, and like as soon as we launched overnight, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.519 I remember waking up and we had a bunch of 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.720 d m s and a bunch of people that had listened, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.520 and all of them were saying, like, Yo, I really 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.280 love this podcast. It was so good to helped me 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.040 so much. And as we kept just doing the episode, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.960 I think the next episode after that we talked about 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.440 like mental health and heartbreak, and even after that episode, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.679 we got dms telling us like, Yo, this podcast is 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.280 helping me so much. It's been helping me feel less alone. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.399 I feel like understood, I feel heard. And it's when 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.360 we realized, like, you know, keep feel heard. They see 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.399 our stories and even though maybe they don't relate to 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.840 our issues directly, they see a part of themselves in us, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.760 and because of that, they're able to help themselves in 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.600 their own lives, which I think was when we really 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.400 realized like, well, maybe this is kind of important to people. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.080 That's beautiful. Is there a particular episode that you're really 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.720 proud of that you know, your favorite one. Yeah, there's 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.880 a lot to choose from. We've done like a hundred 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.079 thirty seven episodes today, but I think I think the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.359 best episode that represents what our podcast is about is 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.400 probably the realities of our friendship, where we just talked 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.520 about like the dynamics in our friend group and the 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.360 sort of power dynamic that sometimes takes hold because it's 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.040 sort of like a business and a friendship and just 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.680 trying to keep that together and keep everyone closed and 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.280 keep the relationship healthy was something that we had been 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.960 struggling for a while. So when we talked about it, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.320 like you know, we got pretty emotional and just really 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.119 had a raw conversation about like, you know, what's going on? 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.560 How do we fix is? Uh? And I think that 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.520 episode was probably the best representation of our podcast and 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.200 white like important conversations like those matters. No, that's so beautiful, man. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.600 I mean, I think that it's really important for young 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.240 people to see other young people being vulnerable and so 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.000 that we can understand that it's okay, you know, to 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.960 have those conversations. The only way to it is to 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.400 go through it right. So he's got to go through 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.960 it and have those people that you can go through 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:28.160 it within exactly exactly. That's that's amazing. Always comes out better, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.919 always fixes things too. Always, that's amazing. That's all my pulations. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.840 I can't wait to hear you guys. Keep going, and 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.559 you know, I wish you guys are best. Seriously, thank you, dude, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:42.360 thank you. That means a lot, of course. Our second 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.640 segment is a conversation between Christopher Edwards, who plays Ruben's 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.720 dad and also directed the podcast, and Raymid Cornell, who 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.680 plays Ruben's mom. Chris and Raymid discussed the themes of 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.080 the show from a parent's perspective, and they go into 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.640 some detail about what it's like to produce a podcast 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:09.359 over the pandemic year. Their conversation coming up next. HM. Hey, Hello, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.279 I'm Chris Edwards and I am the director of Here 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:18.120 Comes the Break, and I also play Ruben's father. Hi, guys, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:23.520 I'm Ramie Cornell and I am Ruben's mother on Here 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.560 Comes the Break. Good to be here, Hey, Ramy, what's 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.080 going on? How you been. I'm well, thank you and 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.160 I'm glad I probably get to talk to the people 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.280 who are listening to this amazing story and and podcast. Yeah, 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.000 it's great. It was such an amazing journey to take 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:44.760 to start the podcast and move through it, particularly during COVID. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.120 Well yeah, well, speaking of that, I mean, what was 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.320 it like casting and directing a podcast over a pandemic? 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.320 Right right? What was that process? How did this come 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.440 about for you? That's a good question. It can about 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.960 through through a network of folks here in Boston. Someone 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.159 floated my name to the producers, and I hadn't done 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.520 any podcast before. I've done, you know, a little bit 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.120 of filmwork, a lot of theater work, run a shakespeare 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.880 company here in Boston, and I thought, oh, this is 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.360 an opportunity that just felt right in my wheelhouse for 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.279 so many reasons. One because you know, often work with 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.839 actors in the theater, but also because of the hip 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.800 hop themes of the show, because I've done a lot 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.719 of hip hop theater. So it fell into my lap 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.960 that way. And to be honest with you, it was 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.760 right at the beginning of the pandemic, and I wasn't 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.919 you know, I was kind of a benefit dark place, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.160 like a lot of people around not being able to 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.640 work in the theater, not being able to come back 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.599 to live performances, and I was really questioning a lot 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.159 at the time, and this thing came up as a 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.880 breath of fresh air, this idea of a podcast that 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.560 could be done virtually. It's deal had a strong narrative, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.880 it was about young people, and so it really helped 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.120 me get through the beginning days of the pandemic. So 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.680 we did a lot of the work virtually, and then 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:18.640 we moved into a studio that was socially distanced and 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.680 worked with the actors. You know. We had actors in Boston, yourself, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.360 in St. Louis, Los Angeles, and then we had artists 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.560 from Deaf champ from pretty much all over the country. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.560 And luckily enough, the way it was set up that 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.640 we could just get to work done virtually. So it 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.040 was weird at first to try to direct something and 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.760 not be able to see the actor, but really kind 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.720 of hearkens back to the old school radio plays to 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.920 some extent, you know what I mean. Yeah, it was great. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.240 It was a great process. We had fun, and I 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.720 don't think the pandemic put too much of a damper 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.560 on what we were trying to achieve, right, Well, I 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.920 think what we've learned, certainly I've learned through this is 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.320 that there's two things that in the pandemic is that 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.400 all of this platform and what we're doing, it allowed you, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.720 in terms of casts, to open up, right, to open 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.000 it up to you don't have to be where everybody 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.760 else is in order to create art, right, in order 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.040 to create stories. And I think this is something that 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.640 positive has even though we do it everybody has a 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.120 home studio or that sort of thing, but allows you 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.480 to cast a wider net and you know, and allow 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.360 other artists to participate in these sorts of shows. I'm 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.320 just you know, these these sorts of shows, which I 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.240 think is is super exciting. It's like, yeah, I have 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.480 my mic and I have my computer, and I have 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.320 these people in mind, and that people from all kinds 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.320 of places can come together. So what it does is 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.680 it widens that opportunity right for those that want to 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.400 participate and can participate. So it brings together you know, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.240 people say they have and the have nods, but then 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.680 it allows and open in a far reach, right, which 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.560 I think is really great about a podcast, which for me, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.280 I've always done voice overs, I'd never done a podcast past, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.840 and this concept was super exciting for me. And when 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.680 you called me and you because Christopher and I have 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.280 known each other for a very long time, almost thirty years. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.640 Our children are ten months apart. His daughter is now 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.920 going to college, my son's going into a senior year, 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.320 and had me in mind being a mom of a 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.280 young black man. So I love that I was invited 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.160 to audition and then eventually booked it, which is great, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.440 But for me, it was the concept in terms of 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.640 this podcast where there's a story because their story and 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.720 episodic story. But was even more interesting is that the 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.240 listener actually can take something away in terms of artists right, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.240 and artists that are being introduced that is not just 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.079 a story you listened to, like oh I love that story, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.120 but now the listener can take away and say, oh, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.079 I'm going to download this artist. I'm going to follow 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.080 this artist. Right, There's a dual thing happening, which is 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.760 what drew me. I'm like, oh gosh. The listener can 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.920 be like, oh, I'm going to download this artist. Oh 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.880 I just I loved her. That is what I think 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.760 is unique about here comes the break is that the 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.320 listener can take away with them not only information, but 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.800 an artist that they can download and begin to listen to. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.959 And there's two things going on. So there's this sort 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.840 of fictional story, but there's also the reality of the stories, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.040 like Wow, listen to this really great young, up and 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.840 coming artist introduced by young people who are so on 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.200 the pulse. Right, Reuben is on the pulse of what 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.600 is happening, which is super exciting, which for me as 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.480 like parents, like who is that artist? I don't know. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.320 You know, we're sort of old school right right with 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.520 the casting and all of that, and you're being drawn 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:39.160 to the project. What specifically, if anything about the mom 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:45.679 character or or the narrative brought admitted interesting for you. Yeah, well, first, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.200 like I said, the concept that listener can actually take 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.240 something away that's tangible. There was that, but also the 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.440 familiarity of being a mom of a young black man. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.720 I am a single mother of a seventeen year old 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.960 young black man, and sometimes things just fit because you 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.200 have the experience and being an actor for all of 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.840 these years, I didn't really have to pull from anywhere 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:12.280 or imagine because there's a daily reminder of Okay, how 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.160 am I navigating my son's future? How am I protecting? 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.320 How am I not protecting? What am I doing now 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.240 to help him move forward? So when reading the scripts 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:25.600 and I'm like, oh, I know what this is. I 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.440 know what this is. Okay, I know he's lying. But 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.200 do I lean into this lie? Do I call him 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.840 out on the lie? Is this the battle that I choose? Right? 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.560 And I go through that every single day? So that 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.800 was the the easy part to sort of drop in 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.600 to mom. Absolutely, But what I love about here comes 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.760 the Break is that Reuben's characters to solid parents who 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:49.679 are present and are a team, which is super exciting 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.160 and I think really important. But what's interesting is that 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.760 young people that and I'll speak for my son and 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.480 even Reuben that when a parent says no, and you 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.559 can speak to this Christmas well, that all our kids 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 here is we don't support them, and no means I 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.360 don't believe in you. I don't support you, and right, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.440 that is the translation. Or it's not fair. That's not fair? 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.679 How is that fair? And yeah, it's real. The the 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.640 program brings up so many things that are palpable, I mean, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.760 in the world, but also just generally speaking in my 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.920 life with I have eighteen year old daughter, and um, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.040 these ideas of being young and being a creative and 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.400 what does that mean and sometimes the anxiety that that 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.080 produces in the creative mind with will people like what 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.600 I'm creating or are they going to think it's terrible? 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.760 So like carrying the weight of that I found really interesting. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.200 And then when you add that to the social media 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.480 the worlds that we're in, and how kids and even 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.480 adults were putting stuff out in the world, and there 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.200 seems to be this movement around not one too to 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:04.360 be judgmental or to judge things, but in the essence, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.640 it's like a cash twenty two because you're throwing it 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.400 out there for the world to see it, and then 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.080 it's hard for the world not to judge what is 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.280 thrown out there. And so just like the weight of 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.440 what judgment means for young people right now, I think 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.600 I got cut off. I was talking about what drew 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.320 me to the role and what drew you to the role, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.960 and one of the things that I've found really interesting. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.360 I find really interesting about the project and the role, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.760 aside from the meta aspects of it that it's a 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.760 podcast about three young people making a podcast, but also 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.280 the things that are evolving around their lives. I have 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.760 an eighteen year old daughter and who is also a 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.800 young creative, and so the challenges that come up just 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.920 around creativity for young people and the voice that they 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.560 want to have in the world, and how that plays 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.800 out in this this social media landscape, and how this 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.400 social media landscape creates anxiety and judgments and and all 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.040 of things, and how as a parent you navigate that 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.640 for your child's health, but also you want to be 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.840 supportive in what they're trying to do creatively because this 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.920 is now this idea of an influencer and a blogger. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.360 All that stuff is new to our generation. I just 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.000 want to say so. In the first episode, Reuben educates 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.680 the listener, well, I was educated. I'm only gonna speak 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.280 for myself. Was something that was new to me about 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.960 young people and it's about likes and it's about and 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.960 I was like, whoa, whoa. I had to be educated. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:42.080 It's like, wait, is this what my kid is going through. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:51.280 We'll be right back and now back to the show. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.480 Your daughter. I noticed a creative. My son is an 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.520 athlete and doesn't really care about anything, but I had 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.680 to be like, oh, this is what it is now, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.760 which is different from our generation Wright. We're generation X, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.760 which I think is the best generation by the way, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.400 before computers, before phones and after so I think we 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.400 had the best of both worlds. That's just an aside. However, 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.480 that being said, I was like, oh, oh, this is 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.600 what I need to be paying attention to. This is 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.000 how I need to find out what my kid is 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.360 engaged in or not engaged? Do I do it secretly? 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.640 How do I get his phone? How do I find 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.200 out what they're doing? But it was the education part. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.800 Listening just to the first I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.760 this is what they're dealing with. Sure, now there's like 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.360 an instant fame, and I had no idea that being 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.880 an influencer had more credibility with young people then being 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.240 on some TV show like what Right. Yeah, and it's 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.640 crazy too, like what that causes around mental obviously, you 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.480 know the writer's Nikia and Taylor really I know wanted 0:15:55.560 --> 0:16:00.120 to focus in on and captured very well. Yeah, and 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.800 also when we spoke to the artists from Deaf Jam, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.760 it was also a huge thing for them. I was 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.760 really impressed by how these young people. Because also those 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.960 artists were early twenties, that may have been a couple 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.480 of late teens right there at the top of their game, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.280 but all of them spoke about self care and how 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:23.080 they deal with the challenges and the requirements of getting 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.880 your craft together, getting your pr stuff together, organizing things, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.040 and also having a life, you know, And so I 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.840 was really impressed with that. As a parent, again, that's 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.960 something that I I've had to come to terms with 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.800 around my daughter and anxiety and what that does, just 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.680 her being creative and not wanting to be judged all 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.840 the time. And yet that's the essence of what we do, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.720 you know, right, there's that generational difference if we know 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.520 how we grew up and went to school. You stuck 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.600 it up, people up your booststraps, you keep it moving. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.480 And it's interesting for me, like when my son he 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.160 said to me, you start me the funk out, and 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.160 I'm like, what, Like, what are you talking about? First 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:06.840 of all, I've never said that to my parents because 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.040 I would have got slapped across the faith. But secondly, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.040 I'm like what, But they speak and they sit in 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.359 their truth and they vocalize their truth. You know, there's 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.320 the line and they pretending and the sneaking around because 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.920 they think we don't understand. We may not understand because 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.200 they think we're against him. But I had to sit 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.879 back and listen, like you know mom does to Rubin, 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.600 to really listen to what his wants and what his 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.040 knees not because the automatic is you don't support me. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.520 So that was another thing that was interesting because even me, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.280 I right off, I'm like, oh my god, okay, and whatever, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.399 you need a mental health but this is real and 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.879 these young people are advocates and are teaching me, and 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.720 I'm listening and holding space for that just me as 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.440 an educator, which I am, and all of those things 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.200 that I'm being taught by this young generation who has 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.840 to navigate this not only social media, but some of 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.520 them are really really good at it and savvy and 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.639 others allow it to seep into what it is that 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.720 they're presenting or what have you. So that to me 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.679 was super interesting. And what's great about the show is 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.840 that all of that is covered. Sure. Yeah, and playing 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.440 a parent, and I think they wrote this really well 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.240 that the parents in this project are very supportive parents 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.800 that said, like Ruben does some crazy stuff, like one 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.960 of the episodes, not to give it away, but he 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.200 takes a long trip and just besides, he's gonna take 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.119 a long trip, just on and I'm like, how is 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.600 seventeen you get on a plane, you know, and like 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.760 and the parents bug out on him, but like, rightly 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:36.120 so because what he does is inappropriate and stupid. So 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.440 it has a really great balance of like, here's this stuff. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.439 You have this anxiety, and we're supporting you around it, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.720 and we want to help you reach what you want 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.919 to reach. But at the same time, you're responsible for 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.720 your behavior, and this right here is we will not 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.600 tolerate that. And so I found that to be very 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.240 true to what it is to bring up a child. 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.879 I don't have a son, but trying to help navigate 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.240 for a young sorry, young black man right now and 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.120 in a troubling time is dangerous out there. For these 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.800 young men, It is dangerous. Sorry to interrupt, But the 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.840 thing that is so frustrating is that my seventeen year 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.159 old thinks I'm whack, right, thinks I don't know anything. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.400 If you only knew right, you can't play a players. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.080 What I tell my daughters, Christopher, we've known each other 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.240 and you know, still it's the thing where they think 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.960 we don't understand, you know, but there is maybe this 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.520 aspect of it, which is social media. I don't completely 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.280 grasp in some Lonelie and whatever that's bullshit, right, But 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.640 the fact that knowing that, okay, this is gonna lead 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.639 you down the wrong road, when do I let the 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:42.320 failure happen knowing that right, or do I help you 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:47.720 succeed or allow you to experience and fail whatever that means, 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.080 or succeed knowing what the outcome is going to be 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.880 and helping you navigate because they think we don't know 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:59.000 anything about anything, even though we do, and we're like, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.880 I know exactly how this is going to play out. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.000 So is this the moment I sit back and let 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.720 it happen? Are there no consequence of the consequences will 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:07.640 be the failure? What happens on the other end, which 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.160 I think these parents and here comes the break are doing. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.840 It's like you have to choose, Okay, where is the 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.760 learning moment and where there so they can learn? And 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.960 when do I support knowing that the outcome is not 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.240 going to be what this person wants? Do I protect them? 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.000 That is the super hard heart, and I do with 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.679 my son on the Time Live yesterday. Do you know 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.560 what I'm about something? And I knew it was a lie, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.159 but I would like, you know what, I'm gonna let 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.040 this one go. He knows I think he's line, but 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.879 he's gonna lean into break like, do you get what 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.280 I meantime? You got to turn the other cheek around 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.439 this stuff because at the same time that there's almost 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.679 a sense that at times it's about them trying to 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.919 find themselves right and also find what the boundaries. I 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.520 think sometimes it's like what the boundaries of your love 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.800 might be? Sure so that they understand that they're supported 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.960 and what they want to do. That said, but they 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.080 never think they're supported. If you say no, they think 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.680 we're against them, that we don't work and we don't 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.439 believe in them. I'm gonna ask you one quick question. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:10.280 What do you think parents should take away from this project? Gosh, 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.640 what I hope is that there is learning for parents 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.560