1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, all you listeners out there. I'm Bobby see 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Us and I play Marco. That's a wrap on our 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: story for the season, but we still have more content 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: for you. This is a bonus behind the scenes episode 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: about the making of Here Comes the Break Right. This week, 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: we have two special segments giving you a glimpse of 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the actors behind the characters, each reflecting on the show 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: and its themes from a different perspective. First up, a 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: conversation between a Santy Black are Reuben and Guile from 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the hit podcast Teenager Therapy, which we recorded back in 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: May right as the show debut. Have a listen. All right, Um, okay, 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: So I got a couple of questions for you. First 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: question I want to ask is why was it important 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: for you guys to put together this podcast. You know, 15 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: I have my assumptions and you know why. I can decipher, 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: but I want to hear from you. Yeah. So it 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: was really interesting because I think when I thought of 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Teenage Therapy, it was sort of a a shower thought. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I was listening to this other podcast 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: that had a similar concept, but it was like with 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: the married couple, And when it came to my podcast, 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like in the shower and then I thought, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: pulled up maybe there was like a teenage version of 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: this that might be interesting, because I thought it would 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: be interesting to listen in on what other teenagers are 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: going through, what they're experiencing, what they're not and stuff 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: like that. And so when I first started this podcast, 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: it kind of just came as I think it's something 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: that I wish existed and it doesn't, so I might 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: as well just making myself. And we didn't really have 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: any deeper meaning to it. But I think as we 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: released the first episode, got feedback from our listeners and 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: started to realize, like what this meant to people is 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: when we really came to understand that there's actually a 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: little bit something deeper here, and there's values in this 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: that we could pull out and like talk about and 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: like expand those values to our community. So even though 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: we didn't start with these, now the values that we 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: really hold is vulnerability and showing vulnerability, having the courage 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: to be vulnerable, and just letting people know you're not alone. 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's others going through this, not just you. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: It's something that's really resonated with our audience. Yeah, when 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: did you start to see that people were really relating 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: and listening in. Was there a certain subject that you 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: guys tackled that really made you realize, Oh, yeah, this 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: is you know, this is helping a lot of people 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: and we gotta keep going. Yeah. Honestly, it was like 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: even after that first episode, we had a pretty good 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: like first episode, and like as soon as we launched overnight, 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: I remember waking up and we had a bunch of 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: d m s and a bunch of people that had listened, 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and all of them were saying, like, Yo, I really 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: love this podcast. It was so good to helped me 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: so much. And as we kept just doing the episode, 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: I think the next episode after that we talked about 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: like mental health and heartbreak, and even after that episode, 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: we got dms telling us like, Yo, this podcast is 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: helping me so much. It's been helping me feel less alone. 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: I feel like understood, I feel heard. And it's when 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: we realized, like, you know, keep feel heard. They see 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: our stories and even though maybe they don't relate to 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: our issues directly, they see a part of themselves in us, 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: and because of that, they're able to help themselves in 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: their own lives, which I think was when we really 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: realized like, well, maybe this is kind of important to people. 66 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Is there a particular episode that you're really 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: proud of that you know, your favorite one. Yeah, there's 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot to choose from. We've done like a hundred 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: thirty seven episodes today, but I think I think the 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: best episode that represents what our podcast is about is 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: probably the realities of our friendship, where we just talked 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: about like the dynamics in our friend group and the 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: sort of power dynamic that sometimes takes hold because it's 74 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: sort of like a business and a friendship and just 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: trying to keep that together and keep everyone closed and 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: keep the relationship healthy was something that we had been 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: struggling for a while. So when we talked about it, 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: like you know, we got pretty emotional and just really 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: had a raw conversation about like, you know, what's going on? 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: How do we fix is? Uh? And I think that 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: episode was probably the best representation of our podcast and 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: white like important conversations like those matters. No, that's so beautiful, man. 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's really important for young 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: people to see other young people being vulnerable and so 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: that we can understand that it's okay, you know, to 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: have those conversations. The only way to it is to 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: go through it right. So he's got to go through 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: it and have those people that you can go through 89 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: it within exactly exactly. That's that's amazing. Always comes out better, 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: always fixes things too. Always, that's amazing. That's all my pulations. 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear you guys. Keep going, and 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: you know, I wish you guys are best. Seriously, thank you, dude, 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: thank you. That means a lot, of course. Our second 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: segment is a conversation between Christopher Edwards, who plays Ruben's 95 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: dad and also directed the podcast, and Raymid Cornell, who 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: plays Ruben's mom. Chris and Raymid discussed the themes of 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: the show from a parent's perspective, and they go into 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: some detail about what it's like to produce a podcast 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: over the pandemic year. Their conversation coming up next. HM. Hey, Hello, 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Edwards and I am the director of Here 101 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Comes the Break, and I also play Ruben's father. Hi, guys, 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm Ramie Cornell and I am Ruben's mother on Here 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Comes the Break. Good to be here, Hey, Ramy, what's 104 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: going on? How you been. I'm well, thank you and 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad I probably get to talk to the people 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: who are listening to this amazing story and and podcast. Yeah, 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: it's great. It was such an amazing journey to take 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: to start the podcast and move through it, particularly during COVID. 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, speaking of that, I mean, what was 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: it like casting and directing a podcast over a pandemic? 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Right right? What was that process? How did this come 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: about for you? That's a good question. It can about 113 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: through through a network of folks here in Boston. Someone 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: floated my name to the producers, and I hadn't done 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: any podcast before. I've done, you know, a little bit 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: of filmwork, a lot of theater work, run a shakespeare 117 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: company here in Boston, and I thought, oh, this is 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity that just felt right in my wheelhouse for 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: so many reasons. One because you know, often work with 120 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: actors in the theater, but also because of the hip 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: hop themes of the show, because I've done a lot 122 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: of hip hop theater. So it fell into my lap 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: that way. And to be honest with you, it was 124 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the pandemic, and I wasn't 125 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of a benefit dark place, 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of people around not being able to 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: work in the theater, not being able to come back 128 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: to live performances, and I was really questioning a lot 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: at the time, and this thing came up as a 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air, this idea of a podcast that 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: could be done virtually. It's deal had a strong narrative, 132 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: it was about young people, and so it really helped 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: me get through the beginning days of the pandemic. So 134 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: we did a lot of the work virtually, and then 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: we moved into a studio that was socially distanced and 136 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: worked with the actors. You know. We had actors in Boston, yourself, 137 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, Los Angeles, and then we had artists 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: from Deaf champ from pretty much all over the country. 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: And luckily enough, the way it was set up that 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: we could just get to work done virtually. So it 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: was weird at first to try to direct something and 142 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: not be able to see the actor, but really kind 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: of hearkens back to the old school radio plays to 144 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: some extent, you know what I mean. Yeah, it was great. 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: It was a great process. We had fun, and I 146 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: don't think the pandemic put too much of a damper 147 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: on what we were trying to achieve, right, Well, I 148 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: think what we've learned, certainly I've learned through this is 149 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: that there's two things that in the pandemic is that 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: all of this platform and what we're doing, it allowed you, 151 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: in terms of casts, to open up, right, to open 152 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: it up to you don't have to be where everybody 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: else is in order to create art, right, in order 154 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: to create stories. And I think this is something that 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: positive has even though we do it everybody has a 156 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: home studio or that sort of thing, but allows you 157 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: to cast a wider net and you know, and allow 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: other artists to participate in these sorts of shows. I'm 159 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: just you know, these these sorts of shows, which I 160 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: think is is super exciting. It's like, yeah, I have 161 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: my mic and I have my computer, and I have 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: these people in mind, and that people from all kinds 163 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: of places can come together. So what it does is 164 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: it widens that opportunity right for those that want to 165 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: participate and can participate. So it brings together you know, 166 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: people say they have and the have nods, but then 167 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: it allows and open in a far reach, right, which 168 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: I think is really great about a podcast, which for me, 169 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I've always done voice overs, I'd never done a podcast past, 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: and this concept was super exciting for me. And when 171 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: you called me and you because Christopher and I have 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: known each other for a very long time, almost thirty years. 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: Our children are ten months apart. His daughter is now 174 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: going to college, my son's going into a senior year, 175 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: and had me in mind being a mom of a 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: young black man. So I love that I was invited 177 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: to audition and then eventually booked it, which is great, 178 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: But for me, it was the concept in terms of 179 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: this podcast where there's a story because their story and 180 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: episodic story. But was even more interesting is that the 181 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: listener actually can take something away in terms of artists right, 182 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: and artists that are being introduced that is not just 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: a story you listened to, like oh I love that story, 184 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: but now the listener can take away and say, oh, 185 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to download this artist. I'm going to follow 186 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: this artist. Right, There's a dual thing happening, which is 187 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: what drew me. I'm like, oh gosh. The listener can 188 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm going to download this artist. Oh 189 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I just I loved her. That is what I think 190 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: is unique about here comes the break is that the 191 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: listener can take away with them not only information, but 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: an artist that they can download and begin to listen to. 193 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: And there's two things going on. So there's this sort 194 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: of fictional story, but there's also the reality of the stories, 195 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: like Wow, listen to this really great young, up and 196 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: coming artist introduced by young people who are so on 197 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the pulse. Right, Reuben is on the pulse of what 198 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: is happening, which is super exciting, which for me as 199 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: like parents, like who is that artist? I don't know. 200 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're sort of old school right right with 201 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the casting and all of that, and you're being drawn 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: to the project. What specifically, if anything about the mom 203 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: character or or the narrative brought admitted interesting for you. Yeah, well, first, 204 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: like I said, the concept that listener can actually take 205 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: something away that's tangible. There was that, but also the 206 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: familiarity of being a mom of a young black man. 207 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: I am a single mother of a seventeen year old 208 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: young black man, and sometimes things just fit because you 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: have the experience and being an actor for all of 210 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: these years, I didn't really have to pull from anywhere 211 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: or imagine because there's a daily reminder of Okay, how 212 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: am I navigating my son's future? How am I protecting? 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: How am I not protecting? What am I doing now 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to help him move forward? So when reading the scripts 215 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I know what this is. I 216 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: know what this is. Okay, I know he's lying. But 217 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: do I lean into this lie? Do I call him 218 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: out on the lie? Is this the battle that I choose? Right? 219 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: And I go through that every single day? So that 220 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: was the the easy part to sort of drop in 221 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: to mom. Absolutely, But what I love about here comes 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the Break is that Reuben's characters to solid parents who 223 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: are present and are a team, which is super exciting 224 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and I think really important. But what's interesting is that 225 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: young people that and I'll speak for my son and 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: even Reuben that when a parent says no, and you 227 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: can speak to this Christmas well, that all our kids 228 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: here is we don't support them, and no means I 229 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: don't believe in you. I don't support you, and right, 230 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: that is the translation. Or it's not fair. That's not fair? 231 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: How is that fair? And yeah, it's real. The the 232 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: program brings up so many things that are palpable, I mean, 233 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: in the world, but also just generally speaking in my 234 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: life with I have eighteen year old daughter, and um, 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: these ideas of being young and being a creative and 236 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: what does that mean and sometimes the anxiety that that 237 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: produces in the creative mind with will people like what 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm creating or are they going to think it's terrible? 239 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: So like carrying the weight of that I found really interesting. 240 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: And then when you add that to the social media 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: the worlds that we're in, and how kids and even 242 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: adults were putting stuff out in the world, and there 243 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: seems to be this movement around not one too to 244 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: be judgmental or to judge things, but in the essence, 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: it's like a cash twenty two because you're throwing it 246 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: out there for the world to see it, and then 247 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: it's hard for the world not to judge what is 248 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: thrown out there. And so just like the weight of 249 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: what judgment means for young people right now, I think 250 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: I got cut off. I was talking about what drew 251 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: me to the role and what drew you to the role, 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: and one of the things that I've found really interesting. 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: I find really interesting about the project and the role, 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: aside from the meta aspects of it that it's a 255 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: podcast about three young people making a podcast, but also 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the things that are evolving around their lives. I have 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old daughter and who is also a 258 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: young creative, and so the challenges that come up just 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: around creativity for young people and the voice that they 260 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: want to have in the world, and how that plays 261 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: out in this this social media landscape, and how this 262 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: social media landscape creates anxiety and judgments and and all 263 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: of things, and how as a parent you navigate that 264 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: for your child's health, but also you want to be 265 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: supportive in what they're trying to do creatively because this 266 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: is now this idea of an influencer and a blogger. 267 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: All that stuff is new to our generation. I just 268 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: want to say so. In the first episode, Reuben educates 269 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: the listener, well, I was educated. I'm only gonna speak 270 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: for myself. Was something that was new to me about 271 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: young people and it's about likes and it's about and 272 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa. I had to be educated. 273 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: It's like, wait, is this what my kid is going through. 274 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: We'll be right back and now back to the show. 275 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Your daughter. I noticed a creative. My son is an 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: athlete and doesn't really care about anything, but I had 277 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is what it is now, 278 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: which is different from our generation Wright. We're generation X, 279 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: which I think is the best generation by the way, 280 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: before computers, before phones and after so I think we 281 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: had the best of both worlds. That's just an aside. However, 282 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: that being said, I was like, oh, oh, this is 283 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: what I need to be paying attention to. This is 284 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: how I need to find out what my kid is 285 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: engaged in or not engaged? Do I do it secretly? 286 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: How do I get his phone? How do I find 287 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: out what they're doing? But it was the education part. 288 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Listening just to the first I'm like, oh my gosh, 289 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: this is what they're dealing with. Sure, now there's like 290 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: an instant fame, and I had no idea that being 291 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: an influencer had more credibility with young people then being 292 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: on some TV show like what Right. Yeah, and it's 293 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: crazy too, like what that causes around mental obviously, you 294 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: know the writer's Nikia and Taylor really I know wanted 295 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: to focus in on and captured very well. Yeah, and 296 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: also when we spoke to the artists from Deaf Jam, 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: it was also a huge thing for them. I was 298 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: really impressed by how these young people. Because also those 299 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: artists were early twenties, that may have been a couple 300 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: of late teens right there at the top of their game, 301 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: but all of them spoke about self care and how 302 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: they deal with the challenges and the requirements of getting 303 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: your craft together, getting your pr stuff together, organizing things, 304 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and also having a life, you know, And so I 305 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: was really impressed with that. As a parent, again, that's 306 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: something that I I've had to come to terms with 307 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: around my daughter and anxiety and what that does, just 308 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: her being creative and not wanting to be judged all 309 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: the time. And yet that's the essence of what we do, 310 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, right, there's that generational difference if we know 311 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: how we grew up and went to school. You stuck 312 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: it up, people up your booststraps, you keep it moving. 313 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: And it's interesting for me, like when my son he 314 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: said to me, you start me the funk out, and 315 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like, what are you talking about? First 316 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: of all, I've never said that to my parents because 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: I would have got slapped across the faith. But secondly, 318 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm like what, But they speak and they sit in 319 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: their truth and they vocalize their truth. You know, there's 320 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: the line and they pretending and the sneaking around because 321 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: they think we don't understand. We may not understand because 322 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: they think we're against him. But I had to sit 323 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: back and listen, like you know mom does to Rubin, 324 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to really listen to what his wants and what his 325 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: knees not because the automatic is you don't support me. 326 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: So that was another thing that was interesting because even me, 327 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: I right off, I'm like, oh my god, okay, and whatever, 328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: you need a mental health but this is real and 329 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: these young people are advocates and are teaching me, and 330 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm listening and holding space for that just me as 331 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: an educator, which I am, and all of those things 332 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: that I'm being taught by this young generation who has 333 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: to navigate this not only social media, but some of 334 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: them are really really good at it and savvy and 335 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: others allow it to seep into what it is that 336 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: they're presenting or what have you. So that to me 337 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: was super interesting. And what's great about the show is 338 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: that all of that is covered. Sure. Yeah, and playing 339 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: a parent, and I think they wrote this really well 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: that the parents in this project are very supportive parents 341 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: that said, like Ruben does some crazy stuff, like one 342 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: of the episodes, not to give it away, but he 343 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: takes a long trip and just besides, he's gonna take 344 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: a long trip, just on and I'm like, how is 345 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: seventeen you get on a plane, you know, and like 346 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: and the parents bug out on him, but like, rightly 347 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: so because what he does is inappropriate and stupid. So 348 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: it has a really great balance of like, here's this stuff. 349 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: You have this anxiety, and we're supporting you around it, 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: and we want to help you reach what you want 351 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: to reach. But at the same time, you're responsible for 352 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: your behavior, and this right here is we will not 353 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: tolerate that. And so I found that to be very 354 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: true to what it is to bring up a child. 355 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't have a son, but trying to help navigate 356 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: for a young sorry, young black man right now and 357 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: in a troubling time is dangerous out there. For these 358 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: young men, It is dangerous. Sorry to interrupt, But the 359 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: thing that is so frustrating is that my seventeen year 360 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: old thinks I'm whack, right, thinks I don't know anything. 361 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: If you only knew right, you can't play a players. 362 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: What I tell my daughters, Christopher, we've known each other 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: and you know, still it's the thing where they think 364 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: we don't understand, you know, but there is maybe this 365 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: aspect of it, which is social media. I don't completely 366 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: grasp in some Lonelie and whatever that's bullshit, right, But 367 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: the fact that knowing that, okay, this is gonna lead 368 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: you down the wrong road, when do I let the 369 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: failure happen knowing that right, or do I help you 370 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: succeed or allow you to experience and fail whatever that means, 371 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: or succeed knowing what the outcome is going to be 372 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: and helping you navigate because they think we don't know 373 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: anything about anything, even though we do, and we're like, 374 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: I know exactly how this is going to play out. 375 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: So is this the moment I sit back and let 376 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: it happen? Are there no consequence of the consequences will 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: be the failure? What happens on the other end, which 378 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: I think these parents and here comes the break are doing. 379 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: It's like you have to choose, Okay, where is the 380 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: learning moment and where there so they can learn? And 381 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: when do I support knowing that the outcome is not 382 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: going to be what this person wants? Do I protect them? 383 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: That is the super hard heart, and I do with 384 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: my son on the Time Live yesterday. Do you know 385 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: what I'm about something? And I knew it was a lie, 386 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: but I would like, you know what, I'm gonna let 387 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: this one go. He knows I think he's line, but 388 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna lean into break like, do you get what 389 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I meantime? You got to turn the other cheek around 390 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: this stuff because at the same time that there's almost 391 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: a sense that at times it's about them trying to 392 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: find themselves right and also find what the boundaries. I 393 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's like what the boundaries of your love 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: might be? Sure so that they understand that they're supported 395 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: and what they want to do. That said, but they 396 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: never think they're supported. If you say no, they think 397 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: we're against them, that we don't work and we don't 398 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: believe in them. I'm gonna ask you one quick question. 399 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: What do you think parents should take away from this project? Gosh, 400 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: what I hope is that there is learning for parents 401 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: about what this social media and the impact it has 402 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: on our young people, which I didn't even realize because 403 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I was unfamiliar. I have a tendency to dismiss, which 404 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: we can't do that. I can't do that because I'm like, 405 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Whatever, what is the snapchat? And 406 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm on the Graham and I'm not on the Graham 407 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and you know, and all of that is that I 408 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: have to be active and not be afraid, which I 409 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: think I am as a parent of like what is 410 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the social media? And I think it's bullshit and this 411 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: and that and you don't need this, that it's not 412 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: that that it is a driving factor for a lot 413 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: of young people and what is that? So I have 414 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: to be an active participant. And I hope that parents 415 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: take that away that to learn about what is this, 416 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: how are teenagers and young people reaching other young people, 417 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: what is important to them, and not dismiss what is 418 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: important to them as a bad or or that this 419 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: will go away. That this has been part of their lives, 420 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: their whole life and wasn't ours. So that is what 421 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: I hope is that the paying attention to how young 422 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: people communicate, how they congregate, and they have power in 423 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: that social media. There's power there and to respect that 424 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: power and what it can do that is great, and 425 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: how it can harm, and teaching about what that harm. 426 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Like my son sent a picture out and two days 427 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: later I got a call from the school and I 428 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: was like, and there's that, right, So it's at least saying, Okay, 429 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: this is the platform you're going to use. How can 430 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: we navigate it so that doesn't come back to bite 431 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: you in the ass in the year from now, in 432 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: five years from now or whatever, right, rather than getting 433 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: rid of it because that's not going to happen, but 434 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: to say, how can I navigate this in a positive 435 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: way that impacts the way I wanted to impact? And 436 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: that's what I hope parents say, Okay, let me learn 437 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: what this is rather than dismiss what Let me accept 438 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: this and figure it out, and how can I help 439 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: my child in this space? That's what I think is important, 440 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: right right? Yeah? Yeah, for me, I think a lot 441 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: of times A look at stuff that's happening with her 442 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: and her friends, and it don't understand the levels of communication. 443 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: But when you think about the world and how we evolved, 444 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, When we were teenagers, communication 445 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: was at a particular level which was way ahead of 446 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: when my parents were teenagers and when their parents are teenagians. 447 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: And so these levels of communicating, whether it's through social media, 448 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: through the phone, through the internet, it's that their lives 449 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: are put on Everyone's life now is almost put on 450 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: a pedestal or on display, pedestal or on display, right right, yeah, yeah, 451 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: on display. Yeah, you almost can't get away from that now. 452 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: So then how how do you manage that? And I 453 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of times I look at how we 454 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: grew up and think that that applies to how these 455 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: kids today are growing up. And I think what I've 456 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: learned is that some of it applies, but a lot 457 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: of it is irrelevant to where they are because they 458 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: are so inundated with imagery and message constantly and there 459 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: and so this thing that I've often done, you know, 460 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: I know you've done it, and friends do it like, well, 461 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: I did this when I was eighteen, and I'm okay, 462 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: So if she does this when she's eighteen, she'll be okay. Well, 463 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: you know that's an old Some of those ideas are 464 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: old and an archaic idea, Yeah, and they don't even 465 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: apply to where these kids are right now. This idea 466 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: that if we just do what we used to do, 467 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: things will be fine, and some bullshit philosophically part and 468 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: parcel to what we just dealt with for the last 469 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: four years in the country around the idea that we're 470 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: going to make America greater. That's based on some old 471 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: idea that somebody had. Well first, that it was great 472 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: in the first place, but that you know, that's a line, right, 473 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: that that we can do what we used to do 474 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: and that will still work. Now, that's just that doesn't 475 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: ring as truthful to me. And I think that's the 476 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: thing that I hope parents takeaway is the idea of 477 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: being able to be empathetic to the moment that they're yea, yep, yeah, 478 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. I hope everybody listens to Here Comes a Break. 479 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: It's unique, the concept is unique, it is for everyone. 480 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: The artists are amazing a Sante Black has done a 481 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: lovely job. You have done a lovely job in directing, 482 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: And it's a podcast. It's a show that is unique, 483 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more thrilled to be a part 484 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: of something that is super amazing and really different than 485 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: anything that is out there. So yeah, for sure, And 486 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: I shout out to the writers and to the producers 487 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: and the the Kia, Taylor and Brady absolutely shout out to 488 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Double Elvis and the whole team. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's 489 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: unlike anything I've ever been a part of her. We're 490 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: seen on a stage or on TV, um, and so 491 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: I to hope people get a chance to listen, to 492 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: catch on, listen to it and be introduced to what 493 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: our young people are having to offer, right and and 494 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: embrace it because they're they're smart and they're savvy, right, 495 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: and they know what's happening in this moment called now 496 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: right and um, we'll take a moment to listen to them. 497 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: And that's what I think is wonderful. So thank you 498 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: so much for having us and listening to us and 499 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: check out Here Comes the Break because you will not 500 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: be disappointed right on. Thanks everyone, nice talking with you. 501 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: Take care. I hope you enjoyed those insights from both 502 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: sides of the generational divide. Next week we'll be back 503 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: with more bonus content, including a conversation between the show's writers. 504 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss it. Here Comes to Break 505 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: is produced by Double Elvis and partnership with I Heart Radio. 506 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Executive produced by Deaf Jam Recordings, Executive produced by and 507 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: starring Asanti Black Is Reuben, produced by Danielle Perkins who 508 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: plays Janelle. Bobby cs is Marco christ for v Edwards 509 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: as Dad Raymie cornell Is Mom and Taylor Bettenson. Written 510 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: by Taylor Bettenson and the Kia Hill Artist Interviews conducted 511 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: by Nikia Hill, directed by Christopher V. Edwards, mixed and 512 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: edited by Matt Ta Hainey, Sound recording by Colin Fleming, 513 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: Music Elements and production by Ryan Spreaker. Additional production support 514 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: by Jamie Dimons. 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