1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jests Podcast. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. He gonna get 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: to that state. So let's go inside the matchup. Motivated 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Is it Dangerous? Aaron Rodgers? 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 3: Game Day and every day? Score a jewelry touchdown with 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: Kendra Scott. Shot Fashion and find jewelry fit for another 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: winning season at your local store or at Kendrascott dot com. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Shine Bright, do good with Kendra Scott Bart Scott. Let's 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: start on the positive side of things. How about can 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: I nawanghu? 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: What are performance coming up from the practice squad on Saturday? 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Kid has a kickoff return for a touchdown ninety eight yards, 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: also forces a funnel that Brandon Eccles recovers that sets 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: up the Jets for fourteen points. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you talk about paying attention to all three 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: phases of the game, you know the three phase of 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: the game is equally effective because they put points on 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: the board and also gave an extra possession to the offense. 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: You got to tip your cap to him. I had 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: to introduce yourself to the Jet fans. I'm sure the 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Jet fans will be looking for more to come. 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: So, speaking of more to come, he was just signed 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: to the active rosters. So he's been on the practice 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: squad since September. Former fourth round pick of the Minnesota 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: Biking since twenty twenty one. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: But he's been in the National Football League. 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: But you never know when you're gonna get your opportunity 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: with the new team, and he took advantage of it 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: big time. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: And you talk about stan locked in and stand focused, 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: being signed to the practice squad in September, having to 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: sit the whole month of September, the whole month of October, 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: the whole month pretty much of November, just waiting for 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: the opportunity. And that's what That's what football in life 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: is all the ways about. It's about Timy and we 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: talk about luck and what that's all about. Ill luck 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: is when opportunity meet preparation. And you know, he prepared 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: and not knowing if that moment was ever gonna come, 40 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: but he came and he made sure he took full 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: advantage of it. I mean, kudos to him. 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: How much how much love did you have for those 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: guys who are making their hay on special teams. 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: N Wongo comes in and he does it. 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: But IRB Charles has really been one of the most 46 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: consistent performers for the Jets throughout this year. 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's been so good on special teams 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: that you know, you have to you know, wonder if 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, with that spill over to opportunities to be 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: able to, you know, play a little bit of receiver. 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the physicality that's required, you know, 52 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: to play special teams. You know, I'm sure he can 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: go out there. He's a fast guy, could be a 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: vertical guy. I mean, I remember guys like Jacobe Jones 55 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: were you know, just special teamers and you know, got 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: opportunities and made some of the biggest plays in NFL history. 57 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: When you think about the draft, I mean, when you 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: think about the Super Bowl, the Draymns won, but you 59 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: think about some of the also the seventy nine yard 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: pass from Joe Flacco. So, I mean you think that 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: we all have an origin story, right, you know, whether 62 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: it's James had a Bowl that was here for a while, 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: whether it's Brad Smith, we all have an origin. And 64 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: you know, when you come in and you're not a 65 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: top five a first round draft pick, literally, your path 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: usually comes through special teams and that's how you earn 67 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: your opportunities. 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: Hey, your buddy Baldy was telling me he never saw 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: anything like it because early on in that first quarter, 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: IRV is lined up at Gunner Bard and there are 71 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: three guys in charged, charged to block him, but he 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: still got down the field. 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: He made the tackle. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's in 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: his bag. And you know, you think about Slayton that 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: finally retired from from the New England, who was always 76 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Slater I believe, who's always penciled in as the representative 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: for the AFC. Maybe a bright spot could mean that 78 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Charles can have an opportunity if he's garnering that type 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: of respect from an NFC opponent, you know that everybody 80 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: in the FC knows about him, and for sure everybody 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: within the division knows about so maybe you know, sometimes 82 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: what you do in the dark comes into the lighting. 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes special team working the Grimy work in 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: between Gunner Wedgebuster, you know, Putt Putt team, you know 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: put Return. You know, sometimes that's considered in the dark. 86 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: You know, they cut into commercial when that stuff is 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: going on, and you don't really get the accolades that 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: you deserve. But you know, when people know you get 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: that Pro Bowl next to your name, it's a very 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: special thing and they'll stay with you for the rest 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: of your life. 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: Man. I really thought it was gonna be the Jets day, 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: considering what was happening on special teams, and when Seattle 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 3: coughed up the kickoff return that Hoders Carlson recover, I thought, 95 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: this is it, man, the Jets are gonna win this 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: ballgame after the buy and get some positive vibes. 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a lot of energy in the 98 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: first half, and you know sometimes you know, you talk 99 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: about you know, the off week self scouting. They had 100 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: some unique different plays, you know, putting Isaiah Davis out there, 101 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: let him come with the shuffle pass and being able 102 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: to like add some wrinkles to the offense. Some shifts 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: and motions were going on. It just that you know, 104 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: when they had Seattle down, they didn't step on their throats. 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: They let him back in the game. Whenever you do 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: that against any opponent, whether they were you know, struggling, 107 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: kind of still sleepwalking from the time change playing such 108 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: an early game on the East Coast, you know, they 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: had opportunities to put the game away and they just 110 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: couldn't find a way to do it. And that's something 111 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: that this team is going to have to learn how 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: to do. When the football guys bounce you, you know, 113 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: give you a couple you know, good plays, things that 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: don't normally happen. You got to take advantage of it. 115 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: You got to make sure that teams can recover from 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: those type of mistakes. Generally, when you have turnovers on 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: offense and you have you know, special team turnovers, usually 118 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: you don't win the game. 119 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, short term and long term. I know, I have 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: to look for the positives, but I'm serious here. I 121 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: look at the Jets offensive line and say, okay, you 122 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: got Olu fashion New lining up at left tackle here 123 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: for probably the remainder of the season. Tyron Smith's on 124 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: injury reserve. I thought he played very well against the Seahawks. 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: John Simpson has met an underrated. 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Performer throughout the year. 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: You're a big fan of Joe Tipman at the pivot, 128 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: the center position. You got Elijah Barah Tucker at right guard, 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: and then at right tackle. I know Morgan Moses has 130 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: really been gutting some things out. 131 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, left the ball game. 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Here against the Seahawks, but Carter Warren got in some 133 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: valuable reps as well. 134 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carter Warren is going to have to step his 135 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: game up. You know. It's hard to ever have a 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: step in the game, you know, down the middle of 137 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: the game, and I thought he struggled a little bit, 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: and that's kind of when the offense lost their you know, 139 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: lost their tempo because he was getting early pressure sometimes. 140 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: You saw when the defender went underneath and Aaron Rodgers 141 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: had to get out of the pocket immediately. You know, 142 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: when when the quarterback has to worry about, you know, 143 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: the penetration from a defensive line, then that doesn't allow 144 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: him to keep his eyes down the field because he's 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: anticipating that, you know, he's going to be under pressure, 146 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: you know. You know, Carter is a guy that you know, 147 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: the coaching staff thinks very highly of. He's going to 148 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: have to come in and you know, if Morgan can't go, 149 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: he's going to have to be the next man up. 150 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: And what a tremendous opportunity for him to audition for 151 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: potentially the right tackle position going forward. 152 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: Or at least being a swing guy down the line. 153 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: But how about those four guys that I mentioned in 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: Olu Simpson, Chipman and then a VT because those guys 155 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: figure to be your. 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Core for a walk. 157 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we'll see, Like I think, at the 158 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: end of the year, it's a decision that has to 159 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: be made about Vera Tucker. But you talk about you 160 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: know the other three. You know, you know Sepsidence is 161 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: signed to a long term uh you know station, he's 162 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: he's on the first year of his new contract. Tim 163 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: is a guy that's going to be here. He's your 164 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: draft pick. And you know Fashion as well. So you 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: think about, you know, the consistency that you could have. 166 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: You know, we're being able to have that left side 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: of the line kind of the future of that's left 168 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: side of the line secure. You know, you'll just make 169 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: a decision on on Vera Tucker if you can have 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: four guys that can work with each other. Remember you 171 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: for for so long you had you know, maybe the 172 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: revolving door was the left guard, but you had Brick Mango, uh, 173 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: Brandon Moore and and Damon Woody for a long time, 174 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: right and you know Fanica was there for years and 175 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: he moved out. That was kind of like the part 176 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: that continued, Slawson came in, but that's what you want. 177 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: You want to be able to build that consistency and 178 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: continuity with guys that kind of play with each other 179 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: and kind of know how to feed off each other. 180 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Flipping the defensive line. I know we're going to talk about. 181 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: It at the end of the year, but listen, you 182 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: do have Quinn Williams in the middle. You do have 183 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Jermaine Johnson is going to be coming back from the 184 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Achilles and then also Will McDonald's speak to will. I 185 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: know you like the steps he's taken, but you think 186 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: that he can even get better. He's got ten sacks 187 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: on the year. He got two against Gino Smith. 188 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he went a long time. He was 189 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: stuck on a for a long time. But I mean 190 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, the spin move kind of 191 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: gave up the edge a couple of times, but understanding 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: that that they're sitting on this spin move. For him 193 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: to show that Tremand has been for the speed rush 194 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: against Cross, who's one of the better past setting tackle 195 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: in the league, was very impressive. And the fact that 196 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: he's going over there and not Hassan going over there 197 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: with the that's you know tackle that the opposing team 198 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: has is the left tackle, their money position. He's making 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: them He's eat you know what I mean. He's so fast, 200 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: so twitchy, you know, so uh so bendy, right, he 201 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: can bend those corners. And you know, listen, he may 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: be a guy by the end of the year, could 203 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: get to fourteen. You know that, you know, because sometimes 204 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: they come in bunches like he got the first ones, 205 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And if the Jets can 206 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: get ahead and get a lead, it's gonna give him 207 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: more opportunities when teams have to become predictable. But you 208 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: think about you know that coming back with Jermaine Johnson 209 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: and if they go and you know, get that kid 210 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: from Michigan sitting right there de tackle. I mean, you 211 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: talk about a formidable front, you know, where you can 212 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: solidify and have Jermaine Johnson tier for a long time. 213 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: Will's tied up full long time, Quinn is tied up 214 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: for a long time. You put a big fatty right 215 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: next to him, you know. I think that's what you 216 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: see when you look around his league. You got these 217 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: big space eaters, guys that are tremendous, you know. Opposite 218 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: of that, four technique or five technique. Like I said, 219 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: I've been saying for a long time, I would love 220 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: to see this team go to a three four and 221 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, if that's going to be your big nose 222 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: and Quinn is gonna be your five technique and you 223 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: can go out and get another three technique or you 224 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: know like that, I mean that like the Trevor Price 225 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: type or the uh uh Sean Sean Ellis type. Man, 226 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: I think you talked about going back to being dominant. 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing is they haven't got 228 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: that tackle opposite of Quinn, and Quinn's started to be 229 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: very disruptive, and I think that's because of the president 230 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: of the Hassim Reddick, meaning that now you can't just 231 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: double him because you create short edges and then Wills 232 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: doing this thing all right. 233 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: Time out from Jets in NFL talk really quickly. 234 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: We're still gonna talk football here. But you just mentioned Michigan. 235 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: What is your take, manbacker, a guy who always ran 236 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: hot on the football field. When these college teams are 237 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: celebrating in victory and bringing the flags out to the midfield. 238 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just amazing to me that all 239 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden, they got all this energy to fight 240 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: when somebody's planning their flag, like, oh my god, they stuck. 241 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: They stuck their flag and are you know, in the 242 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: center of our logo. Well, if you don't want them 243 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: to do that, then don't let them win. Well, for me, 244 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: I think you should do that. I mean if you 245 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: want to get them back the next year when you're 246 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: playing them, if you win, you plant your flat. It's 247 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: just it's just like it's like watching somebody celebrate on 248 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: your field, Like if you don't want to see that, 249 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: then you have you have, you know, four quarters to 250 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: do something about it. I thought, you know, I thought 251 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: as childish, you know, on the what's happening everywhere. Yeah, 252 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: I thought, promish on a team that's losing to all 253 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden get emotional like, oh my god, they're 254 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: disrespecting my flat. So if they plant it in the 255 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: in the in the end zone and your name is 256 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: in that part too, is that a problem or is 257 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: it just somebody told you that it's disrespectful and you 258 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: did it right, you lose it. You should be leaving 259 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: the field anyway, like who cares? You should be going 260 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: in and taking it in like to me, like, because 261 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: I can remember going against too and when he had 262 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: celebrations when he was with the Eagles, and he the 263 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: Ray Lewis dance in the en zone, and you talk 264 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: about some of the most prideful people. You're mocking our 265 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: leader right his famous dance to squirrel dance. And what 266 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: we said is if we don't want to see that dance, 267 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: then we shouldn't allow to weel Owens to score. If 268 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: he scores, you get to do whatever the hell you want. 269 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: But just remember that because when we score, we win. 270 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: We're going to do the same thing and it should 271 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: go that way. That's like somebody having a celebration dance. 272 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh he's celebrating. He's not a professional, like you've been 273 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: there before. No. One of the hardest things to do 274 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: in the world is to score a touchdown or get 275 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: to the end zone. And I should be able. That 276 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: comes from all week of work and preparation. If I 277 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: want to do that, I should be able to celebrate 278 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: and do a dance if I want to. 279 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: So the victory is called the spoils, yes, like. 280 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: So fact that you know, Ohio STA should worry about 281 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: how they're not going to being a big ten chatampionship. 282 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: How they spent forty two million dollars or whatever they 283 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: spent on nil to to buy the most expensive roster 284 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: that money can buy. Michigan found a way to win 285 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: despite that, And that's the beauty of it, right, that's 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: the rivalry. Right, it doesn't matter what the records are, 287 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: like all all the coach ra had to do was 288 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: win that game, and all says are forgiven. And by 289 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: the way, he has the number one quarterback in the 290 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: league coming next year. So I mean, I think, really, 291 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Ryan day jobs should be days could be numbered because 292 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: there's no excuses. Now, he didn't lose the hardball lost 293 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: to a team that was what six and five? 294 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Six and five, that's right, lost to a six and five. 295 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: Team, Like you should be ashamed. You should be embarrassed. 296 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Instead of fighting and compounding, you should have went there. 297 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: And I thought Arizona Arizona State was funny, Like that's 298 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: what it is? Like, what am I supposed to You 299 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: talk trash me the entire game. If trash tall go 300 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: back and forth for the entire game, I win. I 301 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: can't do what I want to do. I gotta have 302 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: some some pride and some class. But you've been talking 303 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: trash for me for four quarters and I'm sure that 304 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: they were talking trash and Michigan because they you know, 305 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: the game was took, was close and they came in 306 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: thinking they were superior team. So like that's my opinion 307 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: on it. Like, oh, I just wanted to get your opinion. 308 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna happen everywhere. 309 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm a graduate of the University of Florida. I know 310 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the Gators were doing that. 311 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, floridaye to Florida State, right, yep. But you'll think 312 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: Florida State, what think Florida State was doing last year 313 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: when they were undefeated, You'll think they were talking trash 314 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: and like they were some of those players on there, 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: remember that, Like ha ha yeah, nas our turn, you 316 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: guys stink. This year, the. 317 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the jewelry 318 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: company that's shining bright and doing good shop Game Day Ready, 319 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: Jewelry Styles and so much more at kendrascott dot com. 320 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the Jets quick. We're 321 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: gonna make a quick transition here. Aaron Rodgers turned forty 322 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: one on Monday. Interim high coach Jeff Albricks said he 323 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: is going to remain our quarterback. He gives us the 324 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: best chance at winning. Your thoughts when you heard that. 325 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean I thought, you know, like, if we could 326 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: do this all over again, I would have put Aaron Rodgers. 327 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: I would have I would have you know, I would 328 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: have preferred to Aaron Rodgers went on I R against 329 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: Denver if he was as beat up as they're alluding to. Like, 330 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: I think the opportunity was the suggestion did a tremendous 331 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: job and bringing in a backup quarterback something we didn't 332 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: have last year. Tyrod Taylor and I thought that if 333 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers wasn't healthy, that maybe he probably shouldn't have 334 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: played now when you're looking back at it, and got 335 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: healthy so that we could see the best version of 336 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. And I think that that's what teammates are 337 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: all about. You look at what Jordan Love did. Jordan 338 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: Love could have could have fallen through the injuries that 339 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: he had when he when he sprained his MCL, we 340 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: thought he's gonna be out for a long time. But 341 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: the league will has stepped in in they won games. 342 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: And I think sometimes you have to have that trust 343 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: to say, hey man, you know one hundred percent of 344 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: this guy is more than seventy percent of me. And 345 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: you see CJ. Mosley's had to go through that a 346 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: lot this year. He says, you know what, I don't 347 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: want to let my team dow. I know I'm injured, 348 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: I can play, but I much rather let these guys play. 349 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: And I thought that was something that maybe if we 350 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: could do all over again, we would have did all 351 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: over again. Because now what's what happens is you find 352 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: yourself maybe potentially having to recruit your young players, right 353 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: because if the play doesn't get better and the office 354 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: continues to struggle worry about guys like Briefs and stuff 355 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: like that. Briees didn't sound well after the game. He 356 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: sounded dejected. And these are guys that you know, you're 357 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: going to have to make decisions on pretty soon, and 358 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: they're going to have, you know, the ability to make 359 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: make moves and decisions theirselves. 360 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: What do you make of Rogers this season? 361 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: Sixty two point five percent thrower for twenty six hundred 362 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: and twenty seven yards, nineteen touchdowns, eight interceptions. Like you said, 363 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: he's battled through injury and he is such a competitor. 364 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: He know he wants to go out there, he wants 365 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: to win, he wants to lead franchise. It's a great things. 366 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: So how do you think he tell me what you've 367 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: seen from him on the field, most specifically last game 368 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: against Seattle when things seem to be going well in 369 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: that first half. But then you know you mentioned the 370 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: Leonner Williams interception, but. 371 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: The Jets couldn't get anything going in the second half. 372 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think they abandoned a run far too often. 373 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: I mean, the offense should always go through Breeze Hall. 374 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: If you look at the majority of the NFL right now, 375 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: the majority of the teams are running the ball forty 376 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: five percent of the time. Now you have a guy, 377 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: a generational talent in my opinion, like bres Hall that 378 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: already gets twelve carries and he was averaging five yards 379 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: of carry twelve carries sixty yards And yeah, he had 380 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: to fumble that that happens at times, and I know 381 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: he fumbled twice and recovered one. When you talk about 382 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, you have to get the ball in his hands. 383 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: That opens and unlocks everything else to everybody. That unlocks 384 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: the play action. That also helps pass protection because the 385 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: linebackers and everybody has to convert because they're they're coming 386 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: off trying to make sure they hold their gaps, and 387 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: then they saying, oh, I have to convert because it's 388 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: now what's the pass? 389 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: You know. 390 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: So I think that you know the game plan as 391 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: far as not running the ball, you have to be 392 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: committed to it right, And I feel like, you know, 393 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: Downey did a great job and come up with different formations. 394 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: The Pony Packers was in early they had plays off 395 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: of it, but then when they got past their fifteen 396 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: play script, you know a lot of emotions and shifts 397 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: kind of came off. And this is the first time 398 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: in my time ever watching Aaron Rodgers to see him 399 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: this inaccurate. You know, you talk about you know, he's 400 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 2: sixty two percent the majority of the league, the average 401 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: is sixty five percent. It's no way that Aaron Rodgers 402 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: should be average of the league, that any statistic. He's 403 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: too much of a talent to ever a great thrower 404 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: of the football. So that's why I'm thinking that it 405 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: has to come off running the football and play action 406 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: to create you know, Billy, you know, you talk about, 407 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: you know, a thirteen to fourteen point swing from you know, 408 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 2: the Garrett Wilson wide opened to you know, Leonard Williams 409 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: the next play, and you know, like some of these 410 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: you listen to these defenders, they're starting to have a 411 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: narrative of by Aaron Rodgers because he's been hit so much. 412 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: They're saying that he's chucking it ducking. That's exactly what 413 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Leonard Williams said. They said, hey, hey, you get pressure 414 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: on him, sometimes he throws the ball blindly, and you know, 415 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, Leonard Williams, you know, knew that you talk 416 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: about Van Geekle. It's the same interception that Van Geekle 417 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: got right off of the same type of pressure. So 418 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: you have to adjust to the adjustments that the league 419 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: is making on you. 420 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: He threw some beautiful balls earing in that game. It's 421 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: so uncharacteristic, uh, watching what happened. And he pointed a 422 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: figure out himself after the game. Bart So you know 423 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: on the Garrett one where it's twenty one to seven 424 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: inside the red zone, inside the ten yard line, and 425 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: then he misses that one and the game changes like that. 426 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: Instead of to your point, twenty eight to seven and hey, 427 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: maybe start the buses, it's twenty one to thirteen and. 428 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 2: Here we go. Yeah, because the team started believing and 429 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: you put energy back in the Seattle bench. But also, 430 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: you know, the cover zero throw to Devonte Adams, you know, 431 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: not all turn. 432 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Short down playing plus territory. 433 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Later half right, should have been like a nice moon 434 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: ball to catch the ball. A lot of his balls 435 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: have been super flat and you had a lot of 436 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: steam on it doesn't leave a lot of room for error. 437 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of times when you throw 438 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: that ball under the receivers are so good they can 439 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: make the adjustments, But when it's coming with so much steam, 440 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Just like I said, it's uncharacteristics. 441 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: I used to seeing Aaron Rodgers throw the football like this. 442 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm used to seeing him hit his targets and be 443 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: on the same page. Still him Demante Adams. Still you're 444 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: off on certain things. 445 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: You emphasides that you like some of that play calling 446 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: and some of the movement and what they were doing 447 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: schemmatically early in the ball game and then even in 448 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: the second half. I love what they did with Garrett 449 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: Wilson there on the first play coming out in the 450 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: third quarter, where hey, schematically. 451 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: We're just gonna get the ball in his hands. He 452 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: saw that. 453 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you can tell the effects of fashion 454 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: who being there, especially in the first half, they were 455 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: willing and able to take vertical shots and that's something 456 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: we hadn't seen. We hadn't seen air rodgers to take 457 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: shots down the field. And you know usually when that happens, 458 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: I know, the one with demonte Adams later in the 459 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: game got called back for offensive PI but the guy 460 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 2: speed he man turned the wrong way and gave us 461 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: back there. So I don't know what you know Debonte 462 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: is supposed to do when he's running up this guy's back. 463 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: All right, So tell me your thoughts on the AFC East. 464 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: The Bills just won their fifth consecutive division championship. Well, 465 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: we were thinking all along, Hey, Dolphins is gonna be 466 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: competitive this year. 467 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: The Jets should be right there in the mix. 468 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: Dolphins right now five and seven, Jets are going down 469 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: to South Florida on Sunday. 470 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Jets are three and nine and the Patriots are three 471 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: in time. How surprised are you that. 472 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: We're sitting here at the beginning of December and that's 473 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: what the landscape is. 474 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the fact that the Bills are able 475 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: to secure a division, you know, before the start of 476 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: December pretty much is they'll discourage it, right because we 477 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be more competitive. Now we 478 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: understand why Miami wasn't as competitive as because of you know, 479 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: the injuries or too a tongue about Lawa uh. And 480 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: they've been, you know, decent since he's been back. I 481 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: know they lost the last game, but this is a 482 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: team that looks at the Jets and for anybody that 483 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: I've ever known that played there or anybody that ever 484 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: coached there, they look at this as the their rivalry game. 485 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: So they look at this game like the Super Bowl. 486 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: We look at the Patriots that way. They look at 487 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: us like, hey, they're going to get up for this game, 488 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: so they'll try and embarrass you, especially coming off of 489 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: a embarrassing game for themselves where they look like they 490 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: were friging in cold deal with Green Bay. They're going 491 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: to be looking to get right and get some confidence. 492 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: So you better be prepared when you go down there, 493 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: because they're going to be trying to send a message. 494 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: Long term, what do you see from those three teams? 495 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: You know, the Patriots are trying to build this thing 496 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: with a very talented young quarterback in May, a guy 497 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: that I've been awfully impressed with. I don't think I 498 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: anticipated him to play this well early on in his career. 499 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: Miami they made the playoffs the last couple of years 500 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: is going to be a long shot now. And you 501 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: mentioned too as injury before and what they're going through. 502 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: And then the Jets, the search has begun for a 503 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: new GM and a new. 504 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: Head coach, right, and that's always tough, right, it's instability 505 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: with the just the Patriots know who their coach is, 506 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: they know who's you know, their ownership, the general manager, 507 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: all the leadership is there. You know that, you know 508 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: McDonald's obviously have wrong McDonald McDaniels. I think it's McDonalds 509 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: is Mike McDaniel, Yeah, Mike McDaniels and McDonald is out 510 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: in Seattle. Always mixed up too many. 511 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: Mics, Yeah, a lot of mics. 512 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: But but you think, but you think about you know, 513 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: McDaniel's going to be there day two years into this offense. 514 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: They built the personnel to run this offense. We don't 515 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: know what the Jets, you know, philosophy is going to 516 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: be if the players that are here, certain players are 517 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: going to fit the scheme, who's going to you're gonna 518 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: move on from and you have instantly you don't. You 519 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: have uncertainty at the quarterback position as well. You look 520 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: at the other places they outside of tour and potentially 521 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: his injury from his cases of concussions. Everybody knows who's 522 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: going to be who, and they have their franchise quarterback. 523 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: We don't have our. It's uncertain, So it's tough right now. 524 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: We know that the Jets have a tremendous young core 525 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: of talent, but you know, he could be a potential 526 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: case where you're trying to get a new coach, new 527 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: general manager, potentially a new starting quarterback, which is always difficult. 528 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: All right, defensively, let's start with the posites. How about 529 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: the goal line stand man, they're never in until they're in. 530 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about eight players from the goal line, 531 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: that's what that's what you want to see. You want 532 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: to see him boil their neck, you know what I mean. 533 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: And you know that was tremendous. That was impressed to watch. 534 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: You would hope that it wouldn't go to eight because 535 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: of the p I you know, kind of push it, 536 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: push it back. I thought Sauce was having one of 537 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: his better games to pete him with one of the 538 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: premier receivers. I thought he got up for that game, 539 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: but the fact that he couldn't finish kind of I 540 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: think put it put it a dapper, you know. And 541 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: you think about that fourth down and if that was Sauce, 542 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: that that would have been different if they would have 543 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: let the boys play opposed to a superstar versus a 544 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: you know, undrafted Canadian player. You know sometimes that that 545 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: superstar player is gonna get that call because he knew 546 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: how to draw him into that to that penalty. 547 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned Sauce. He thought he was having 548 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: one of his better games. What does that say about 549 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: him as a competitor that he raised his level out 550 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: there because. 551 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: He knew he was who he was going against. They 552 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: talk about DK Metcalfe and. 553 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: What he can do down in the field and a 554 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: vertical threat and a big time guy, and I thought 555 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: he rose the chungs quite well. 556 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I thought, you know, I thought he knows 557 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: that if he didn't bring his a game against DK 558 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: dcalf is the type DK is the type of dude 559 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: that embarrass you. He'll he'll embarrass you. And they make 560 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: you look bad in front of everybody, and physically dominating 561 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: as well. You know. So I thought Sauce knew that 562 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: he had to be at an anchor, he had to 563 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: be physical at the point, and I thought he competed 564 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: at a high level. Yes, Dk, you know, had a catch, 565 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: but you know you talk about the goal line on 566 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: the slant, being able to break that pass up and 567 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: break some basses up on the goal line. I thought, 568 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: you know that, you know, they knew or they weren't 569 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: too kind. They were more confident with in Jigba, you know, 570 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: his matchups, and they were about DK Metcalf. And that's 571 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: the respect for the size and the defense rats of Sauce. 572 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really saying something. 573 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: How about the drive, the game winning drive that ended 574 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: on the Charbonnet touchdown, the four penalties starting with fourth 575 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 3: and six, Seattle's pawnters hurt, the Jets get caught with 576 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: too many men on the field there, then it's a 577 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: fourth and one. You just mentioned it before, you just 578 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: alluded to it before sauces out of the game. So 579 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: Gino dials up a long ball to back. 580 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Calf off of play action, right, but you knew it 581 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: would have been a pass, so they got you with 582 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: play action because it was four for one. But you 583 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: knew you would add an opportunity if you didn't have 584 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: twelve minut of a field, which you know went from 585 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: four for and six to fourth and one. Right, So 586 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: those are all self inflicted wounds. You can't have that, 587 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: especially when you're a team that hasn't won a lot 588 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: of games. You can't kill yourself. And I thought they 589 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: broke down when it was in the most when that's 590 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: where you're supposed to be the sharpest. That situational football, like, 591 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: you have to understand and if you're the corner on 592 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: that near side, you got to run off the field 593 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: when you go out there, you gotta count. You gotta count. 594 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: And if you're Michael Carter and you're outside, not Michael Carter, 595 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: if you're if you're if you're Gibson or whoever the 596 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: kick returner is, you gotta be counting as you're walking out. 597 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: And if you're counting, it doesn't matter. If they're punting 598 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: the football and nobody's back there, then the ball just 599 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: falls down. They can't it's not like, oh, somebody has 600 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: to catch it. So if you if you're the returner. 601 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: It's your responsibility count when you walking out there, like, 602 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: oh man, we got too many. Let me run off, 603 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: but let me tell the corner to run off and 604 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: I'll come up and play corner. Yeah. 605 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: And then later in the drive, I mean, Solomon Thomas 606 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: is going hard there. 607 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he gets flagged for the horse. 608 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: I didn't agree with that, because the horse collars when 609 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: you hold on and you take him to the ground 610 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: with it, right like to me, he caught in between 611 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: the name plate. He came off the name plate and 612 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: he made the and then he tackled around the legs 613 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: and then everybody else came. He slowed them down with that. 614 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: Nobody says you can't put your hands there. You just 615 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: can't drop your body weight. And when he dropped his 616 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: body weight, he felt his hands came off of the collar. 617 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: So I didn't agree with that, but maybe it's. 618 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: So that's the one you challenge the league guy. I 619 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: ain't time to agree with it that. 620 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, at this point, you know, it's 621 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: just one of those unfortunate things where it won't change anything. 622 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: And then before the touchdown a third and six, McDonald 623 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: got called for neutral zone and fraction. 624 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: Bro how your head has passed the centers is behind me. 625 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: Like rule of thumb, your hand goes in front and 626 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: your head can't go in front of your hand, like 627 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to say something, and whoever's the 628 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: end man and a lot of scrimmers on either side 629 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: is supposed to say, get back, get back on again. 630 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: That's not being accountable and not helping your brother out. 631 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: A lot of lessons for the young players, no doubt 632 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: about that. As we look ahead now Jets Dolphin Sunday. 633 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: For years we had that these two teams know each 634 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: other's personnel quite well. McDaniels and Robert Salo were on 635 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: each other's staff. But now with changes, what do you 636 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: expect Miami offense first, Jets defense Now. 637 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean they're still going to have the intel because 638 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: they know the defense that they're playing. Oldbrick was there, 639 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: so he knows, you know, how they how they respond. 640 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: It's not like they have a new defensive coordinator. So 641 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: I think that stays the same. I think on the 642 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: other side is where it gets interesting because you got 643 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: to see how they respond to downing and what his 644 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: what his game plan is, and I know Anthony Weavers 645 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: defense coordinator there, He's gonna be aggressive. He has those 646 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: guys playing at a high level. And Jayalen Ramsey is 647 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: a guy that you know, I'll pay to see him 648 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: and Devonte Adams go out at one on one. 649 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: That should be fun. 650 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: But if Jalen's going to Davante, that means who's going 651 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: to Garrett? 652 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know. I haven't got deep 653 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: into my prep. You get here their second cornerback is 654 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: I know. 655 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: But my point on that is that, Yeah, but with that, 656 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: Ben said, you have to do a good job in 657 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: establishing a run, then you have to do a good job. 658 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: And I think they waited too late to really get 659 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Garrett involved in the game, Like you got to get 660 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: Garrett the ball early in the game. It's got to 661 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: be a converted effort to get him some touches. Yeah. 662 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes we could say that you don't 663 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: know who's the number one. You confuse and think that 664 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: Devanta Adams is the number one when Garret Wilson's supposed 665 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: to be the number one, And that's always a tough 666 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: conversation to have because Garrett's the number one before Devonte came, 667 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: and now it seems like a lot of the game 668 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: plan is to get DeVante the ball where that shouldn't be. 669 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: That shouldn't be the case. 670 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: So the way you view it as an analyst, cole 671 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: Ones here. 672 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: No, it can be co Ones like, it's it's not 673 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and T Higgins, it's T Higgins. And is 674 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase first and T Higgins It's not. It's not 675 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: Addison and Jefferson and Jefferson, it's Jefferson and I think 676 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: that you know that was already established. So like that's 677 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: why he's playing the X. You know you're supposed to 678 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: get most of the jeuwe so you got to try 679 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: and get him the ball early. 680 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Garrett Wilson in a fantastic season going down to 681 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: South Florida, the face of the Dolphins. To your point, 682 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: as far as the cornerback position with the Dolphins, they'll 683 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: line up with Fuller as their second quarter full is a. 684 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: Good, good corner formerly a Washington right. 685 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Listen, Holland is one of the better safeties out there, 686 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: and that defund some backfields as well. 687 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Then they've been stopping the run quite well so far 688 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: this year in Miami. 689 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Because they're bringing a lot of the Ravens principles in 690 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: fronts as well, you know, I mean they go to 691 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: those three three four type of fronts, those reduced and 692 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: underfront the athlete weaver you'll learn from Rex Ryan. That 693 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: makes it really difficult. If you run, you have to 694 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: run open to the bubble, and to do that, you know, 695 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: if you got a ward Daddy in there, then he 696 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: can he can, he can junk it all up into safety. 697 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: If you have a good safety could come down weak 698 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: and you can solidify that sign. It makes it very 699 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: difficult to run on on. 700 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: The other side of the ball. Can you speak to 701 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: the challenge as far as your eyes are concerned, You 702 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: always have spoken about that in the past. 703 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: What they try to do to mess with your discipline. 704 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: Well, of course you're gonna get an array of shifts emotions, 705 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: and you're gonna get tool turning his back to the 706 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: defense and turn around and trying to throw timy Robbs 707 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: behind the linebackers. So linebacker's gonna have to table with 708 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: tremendous depth and they're gonna have great have tremendous eye discipline. 709 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot of shifts emotions trying to 710 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: get your eyes looking one way so they can run 711 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: the ball right down your throat. This is a team 712 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: with a ch Han and moster who has had success 713 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: running the ball against the Jets. Just better be ready 714 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: because these are guys that if they get to the 715 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: second level, like Breese Hall, you're not catching them. 716 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Give me three jouts, two after shine Sunday. 717 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: I mean it has to be. It has to be quinning. 718 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: It has to be Sauce and dj Reed I put 719 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: them as one. Could you think about the potent passion 720 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: attack with Wattle and in Tyree, and I think it 721 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: has to be. It has to be fashion. He has 722 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that he can make Aaron Rodgers feel 723 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: secure so that he can go through his progressive and 724 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: understand that he has more time than he thinks. I'll 725 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: tell you what. 726 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: Tua has been throwing the ball a lot to his 727 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: backs and his tight end Jonas Smith. I mean the 728 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: Smith against Green Bay. Every other play was going to 729 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: him from the middle. 730 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: Because teams are taking Tyrek and Watta away. So he's 731 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: the next guy that you have to worry about. He's 732 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: a guy that's actually playing a lot better than he 733 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: was yo when he was with the Patriots. As he 734 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: has a quarterback that's going to get him the ball 735 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: in rhythm and timing. They're doing a good job in 736 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: featuring because he's one of the better yak type of 737 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: tight ends in the league. Reminds me a lot of 738 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: a version of Isaiah, likely a guy that can run ralse, 739 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: but they can run after the catch too. Good backer