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Speaker 1: reporter Jordan Fabian. Jordan's what do we know about the

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Speaker 1: Let scotis Monday, President Trump zeroing in on Coney Barrett

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Speaker 1: issue with you know, if it does go down, and

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Speaker 1: but it seems that, you know, there's a possibility that

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Speaker 1: a slew of ballots that come on later and makes

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Speaker 1: the election tighter or uh, you know, uh, former Vice

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Speaker 1: President Biden maybe is even declared the winner, and there's

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Speaker 1: a contentious battle over who you know, what the votes say,

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Speaker 1: that could just like with Bush b Gore, UH, back

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand election, that could maybe be something

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Speaker 1: that goes up to the Court, depending on certain states

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Speaker 1: and the number of ballots. So I think sendor Cruz

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Speaker 1: raises an interesting point. I haven't looked too much into it.

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Speaker 1: Most people are focused more on the Republicans are mostly

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Speaker 1: focused on the process, getting the vote, seeing how they

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Speaker 1: can move forward. It was a final question for you,

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Speaker 1: just speaking of that process. I mean, I remember covering

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Speaker 1: UH folks who are opposing his nomination and people like

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Speaker 1: you who were in favor of it, and just the intensity,

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Speaker 1: this is that you couldn't with the clock taking down

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Speaker 1: country could during the day be tuning into confirmation hearings

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Speaker 1: before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and then that evening be

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Speaker 1: tuning into a presidential debate. Wow. Yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting time for the country. And let me

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Speaker 1: just say obviously, you know, our thoughts and prayers are

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Speaker 1: with you know, Justice Gainford's family. She was a trailblazer

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Speaker 1: and a tough woman, would be cancer so many times.

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Speaker 1: So it's a tremendous loss for this country. But um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you've got it. We're in the middle of

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Speaker 1: protests and riots in the streets as well. Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: but just from that and I don't mean interrupt you,

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Speaker 1: from a practical standpoint, as someone who's a communications advisors,

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Speaker 1: did these folks, how do you balance that? How do

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Speaker 1: you balance pushing through a nomina nomination at a time

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Speaker 1: when there's a presidential election going on? Would that change

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Speaker 1: your strategy in any way where there's down ballot races

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Speaker 1: going on? Would that change your strategy in any way

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Speaker 1: for for folks like you, No, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: for what you have to look at is you've got

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Speaker 1: to look at precedent. There's been uh, like I said,

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Speaker 1: a uh, it's an interesting time in the country. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on with the pandemic, et cetera. But

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Speaker 1: I think Republicans you need to try and do your

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Speaker 1: best to to go through the process fully, to VT

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Speaker 1: the nominee fully, to have a strong and fair hearing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, um Vender McConnell's made clear that there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an up and down vote at some point here.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what that is. And I think all

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Speaker 1: you can do is message that nominees qualifications, their background,

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Speaker 1: them through at the end of the day. Al Right,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Venture, thanks for saying late for me. That's Garrett Venture.

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Speaker 1: He's a former senior communications advisor to Senate Judiciary Republicans.

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Speaker 1: He's worked on the nomination process for Republican nominations. Uh

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Speaker 1: for for this president. Thank you to Garrett. Now just

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Speaker 1: to reset here, my name is Kevin Cereli. I'm the

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Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: We just heard from the headline crossing the Bloomberg terminal

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Speaker 1: that Amy Coney Barrett is who President Trump is moving

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Speaker 1: toward nominating to replace rb G on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: This according to people familiar with the matter. Um her

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Speaker 1: supporters have pointed out to the White House that she

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Speaker 1: is a Midwestern Catholic and she may help the President

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Speaker 1: secure votes for his re election and the vital rust

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Speaker 1: belt in Great Lakes States, where he currently trails Democratic

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Speaker 1: candidate Joe Biden. And in fact, just within the last

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Speaker 1: Biden beating Trump in Wisconsin forty percent to forty three percent,

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Speaker 1: Trump in Pennsylvania forty six percent. Obviously, these polls weren't

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Speaker 1: taken before before the tragic passing of RBG On Friday,

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Speaker 1: Garrett mentioned Senate Majority Leader miss McConnell. Let's play a

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Speaker 1: little bit of what we heard from Senate Majority Leader

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell earlier today on the Senate floor. Here's the

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Speaker 1: moving the process along. Here he is President Trump's nominated

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Speaker 1: for this vacancy, will receive a vote on the floor

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Speaker 1: of the Senate. And then he went on to say

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Speaker 1: forward with this process. Here he is again some of

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Speaker 1: the same individuals who tried every conceivable dirty trick to

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Speaker 1: obstruct Justice Corsage and Justice Kavanaugh are lining up, lining

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Speaker 1: up to proclaim the third time will be the charm.

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome now to the programs ug High.

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Speaker 1: He is a senior vice president of media at Craft

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Speaker 1: Media and Digital. He is also the former deputy chief

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Speaker 1: of staff to former House Majority Leader Eric Cancer and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Walling, a Democratic strategist at HG Creative Media. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: we just saw the battleground polls. We know the background

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Speaker 1: of Judge Amy Comy Barrett. How is this go to

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Speaker 1: pick gonna shake up the boy? That's really the question, keV,

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Speaker 1: in all of this, it's great to be with you. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think all evidence and again you point to the

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Speaker 1: story now across the terminal, uh, is that the president

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Speaker 1: is moving in the direction of Amy Comy Barrett. Uh.

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Speaker 1: She has been on record saying that that is who

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, and that he was

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Speaker 1: saving her for that seat. Of course, the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: going to fight tooth And now you spoke of Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: I think you know, the amazing thing to me is

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Speaker 1: that for millions of Americans, half of Americans in these states,

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Speaker 1: election day was today yesterday, it's tomorrow because voting is

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Speaker 1: already underway in half the states in this country. And

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Speaker 1: this is never before in this country has we've seen,

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Speaker 1: like you said, a president'sill debate at nine o'clock that

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Speaker 1: that evening, followed by a confirmation hearing the next morning

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Speaker 1: or the morning of that debate. Territory, it's this new

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Speaker 1: territory for all of us. And I think you saw

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Speaker 1: Vice President Biden give a speech yesterday and Philadelphia at

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Speaker 1: the Constitution Center saying, let's hit the brakes on this,

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Speaker 1: let's adhere to the McConnell rule and not tamper with

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Speaker 1: this seat just forty four days out from this election. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like you know, one side's gonna say

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Speaker 1: not so fast. But either way, this is neutral. It

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Speaker 1: is remarkable, remarkable to see these two events. Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: I mean these are on a collision course. And really

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Speaker 1: it's going to mobilize both bases. Yeah, ultimately, it's it's

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Speaker 1: going to be fascinating to watch, especially the debates, as

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Speaker 1: fuel to the fire, and especially if that fuel is

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Speaker 1: fundraising money. UM ultimately may not have much of an

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Speaker 1: impact directly on voters, not just because people are already

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Speaker 1: voting in some important states, but if you look at

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Speaker 1: the number of undecided voters today compared to four years ago,

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Speaker 1: there's half as many undecided voters this time around is

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Speaker 1: last time around, so that the universal voters who will

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Speaker 1: be swayed by this is much smaller. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's you can't even go to your your sister's birthday

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's toxic. It's political toxicity. Take a

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Speaker 1: listen to Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, who accused Republicans

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Speaker 1: behind this, and it should be humiliating to all of

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Speaker 1: the Republican senators who joined McConnell four years ago and

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Speaker 1: and now he's asking them to reverse themselves. Doug, I know,

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Speaker 1: Kevin's just gonna echo that. And I say that because

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Speaker 1: I want to put the question to you, how do

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Speaker 1: Republicans We've all seen it on the on the social

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Speaker 1: from Democrats of hypocrisy. They don't. It is hypocritical, but

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Speaker 1: they're going to move forward. And Garrett mentioned this earlier

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Speaker 1: Democrats four years ago. So we have to have somebody

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Speaker 1: Corleone who said the Senator Pat Geary, we're both part

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Speaker 1: of the same hypocrisy. Senator, this is politics. We know that.

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Speaker 1: And so it would be a mistake to think that

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Speaker 1: anybody would be playing beam back right now. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know who told me that, Doug High Roger Stone,

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Speaker 1: It's one of those quotes. You know, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: like dug into your mind. Kevin Walling. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: but but you know, let me I say this, you know,

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Speaker 1: now to to to flip it. What do you say

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Speaker 1: to two Republicans, who are are you absolutely nuts? If

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Speaker 1: Democrats would absolutely do this. Yeah, it's probably true. I mean,

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Speaker 1: have flipped our positions on this completely. Uh you know.

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Speaker 1: And again, as Lindsey Graham wrote in this letter to

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Speaker 1: his Judiciary Committee Democratic colleague, if his shoes on the

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Speaker 1: other but you probably would have moved forward with this.

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Speaker 1: But again, you know, we're we're living in in this

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Speaker 1: again Lindsay Graham and the Senate Judiciary communities, we will

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Speaker 1: not even entertain any kind of nominee in the final

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Speaker 1: year of the Trump presidency. And of course you know

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Speaker 1: they're backtracking on that, and to Dos pointed to power play, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Vitch McConnell knows where's caucuses. This is his

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Speaker 1: driving ambition is to stack the court with his many

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Speaker 1: nominees as possible. He calls back the Senate not to

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Speaker 1: take up a COVID relief and match what the House

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna force this vote on on on this

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Speaker 1: judiciary because that's, you know, been their singular for focus.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta you know that you gotta show some

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Speaker 1: respect for that and that he knows how to play

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Speaker 1: the game and this is his animating issue. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: he definitely both Speaker Pelosi and Leader McConnell know how

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Speaker 1: to play the political Washington game. You know. One of

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Speaker 1: the my favorite things that I read today from Secretary Scalia,

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Speaker 1: the Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, writing in the in the

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Speaker 1: in the Washington Post about his now late father, Justice

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Speaker 1: Antonin Scalia, uh and the friendship that Justice Scalia had

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Speaker 1: with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg. And yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: the three of us are sitting here and we're talking

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Speaker 1: really really did capture some of the the optimism still

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Speaker 1: that exists in our country and in an institution like

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Supreme Court. And he writes, quote like many

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Speaker 1: good friendships. The Ginsburg Scalia friendship was between couples my

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Speaker 1: father and my extraordinary mother and Justice Ginsburg and Marty.

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Speaker 1: One of the rewards of the two recent movies about

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Speaker 1: Justice Ginsburg is the light they shine on her husband

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Speaker 1: as humor and intelligence and his powerful love and dedication

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Speaker 1: to his wife. He was a cherished friend for my mother.

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Speaker 1: And then he goes on to right. Uh that in

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Speaker 1: that spirit, it's often remarked today that if our government

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Speaker 1: leaders spent more time together, they would come to like

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Speaker 1: and respect one another, be more civil, and achieve consensus,

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Speaker 1: harmony and wondrous legislation. I like it. I'll get off

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Speaker 1: my soapbox now. But it's a good op ed if

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Speaker 1: you if you want to go check it out. I

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Speaker 1: know everyone's all heightened. Forty plus days out until the election.

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Speaker 1: All right, two minutes left, two minute warning, uh for

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Speaker 1: these for this panel and coming up, we check in

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Speaker 1: with Congressman Judy Chew about the process. Doug Kevin, what

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Speaker 1: does this take out all the oxygen of the room

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Speaker 1: of getting fiscal stimulus before election day? Quickly? Dug? It

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Speaker 1: makes it much more harder. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: cut a deal with Mitch McConnell if he's going to

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Speaker 1: do something that she obviously opposes in the most perfect

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Speaker 1: way possible. But Kevin Walling, yeah, I mean completely, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the sentences out obviously singularly focused on moving

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Speaker 1: a bill that will keep the government funded while at

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Speaker 1: the same time moving forward with this nomination any other consideration.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to fall by the wayside or

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Speaker 1: these next forty plus days. And it was just a

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Speaker 1: dizzying day on Wall Street because stocks paired losses as

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Speaker 1: a rebound and some tech giants tempered concern over cloudy

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Speaker 1: prospects for economic stimulus and that report about suspicious transactions

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Speaker 1: at global banks. So another interesting day for the Street.

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Speaker 1: At a course for Washington, Doug high S, VP of

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Speaker 1: Media at Craft Media and Digital, Thank you Doug for

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Speaker 1: joining us. And Kevin Walling, Democratic strategist at h G

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Speaker 1: Creative Media. Too short today, gentlemen, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Coming up, we head to Capitol Hill

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Speaker 1: and we check in with Congresswoman Judy Chew. I'm Kevin

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Speaker 1: CURRELLI Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: You can also find me on radio dot com UH,

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Speaker 1: as well as your radio app and wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your Bloomberg. That's coming up next. This is Bloomberg Want.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: and one or five point seven f m h D two.

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Speaker 1: My name is Kevin Surreley. I'm the chief Washington correspondent

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Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. You know, regardless

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Speaker 1: regardless of which party you're in or what you think

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Speaker 1: of the current state of political affairs, there's no denying

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Speaker 1: the indelible mark that now the late Justice Ruth Bader

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Speaker 1: Ginsberg has left h on our nation's history. And I

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Speaker 1: don't use those words lately, our country's history. Congresswoman Judy

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Speaker 1: Chew is a Democrat representing the District of California. Congresswoman,

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Speaker 1: as as you as you try to put in perspective

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Speaker 1: the mark that RBG has left, what comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: She's had such a profound impact on women's rights, on

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Speaker 1: And and you know, again just her personality, you know,

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Speaker 1: her tord to force personality. Yeah, and I say it

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Speaker 1: of course, I've I've seen the documentaries on her, you know,

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Speaker 1: her interviews. She was such a low key person, and

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Speaker 1: yet she had such a voluminous effect. She was just

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Speaker 1: a giant and uh, she persisted, she spoke her mind

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Speaker 1: through all of her descents, U and U. She had

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Speaker 1: coqued so much in the face of so many obstacles,

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Speaker 1: graduating first in her class and yet being denied jobs

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Speaker 1: just because she was a woman. And yet she's one

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Speaker 1: of those women in history that has made the greatest

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Speaker 1: impact on our legal world, on on uh, the whole

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Speaker 1: system of legal rights in this country. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you who, but for folks who

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Speaker 1: listen to the program regularly, you know that I come

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Speaker 1: from a very politically diverse family. I'm related to Republicans

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Speaker 1: and Democrats, Trump supporters, trip Trump critics, and one of

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Speaker 1: the Republicans said, I'll never forget. You're in the early

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Speaker 1: days of all of the shutdowns, the pandemic. They said

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Speaker 1: in my head and and this Republican that I'm related

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Speaker 1: to said to me, would you get out there and

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Speaker 1: plank like RBG? I mean, seriously, if r b G

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Speaker 1: can do a plank, keV, you can get out there

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Speaker 1: and work out. I thought, all right, one foot in

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Speaker 1: front of the other, here we go, Kevuh, alright, the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court fight. Now it's politic sized. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: are your Democratic colleagues telling you? Do you think there's

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Speaker 1: lame duck? I know you don't want one, but what

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Speaker 1: do you think is actually gonna happen? What we want

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Speaker 1: Republicans to do the right thing. In two thousands sixteen,

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Speaker 1: we heard over and over again that they there should

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Speaker 1: that was many months before the election. Now we're we

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Speaker 1: are just around forty days before the election, and they

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Speaker 1: want to rush this through. I mean, it took them

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Speaker 1: a hundred and eighteen days just to vote on their

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Speaker 1: they have to do vetting. Uh, they have to go

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Speaker 1: through all kinds of procedures. First of all, it's not

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Speaker 1: not right for the process, but also it's it's very

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Speaker 1: hypocritical considering what they said in two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So we want them to just follow what their own

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Speaker 1: After all, it is this coming president who will determine

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Speaker 1: a right to choose the next Supreme Court justice congressione

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Speaker 1: California representing California's twenty seven congressional district. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the strategy that Democrats have that House Democrats

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Speaker 1: who opened or George Stefanopolis, who openly asked if impeachment

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Speaker 1: other issues pertaining uh it two floor time and whatnot?

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Speaker 1: Maybe a fiscal stimulus vote? Do you have is that

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Speaker 1: In the meanwhile, uh, we need to have as much

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Speaker 1: follow what they said four years ago. And I say,

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Speaker 1: the situation. Well, and I say this respectfully, and I

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Speaker 1: don't like to go into hypotheticals, but Senator Ted Crews,

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Speaker 1: real possible issue that as we have an increase in

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Speaker 1: mail in votes that this could be one of the

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Speaker 1: most litigated presidential elections and since at least since two thousand,

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Speaker 1: maybe even our nation's history. And I get that this

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Speaker 1: uh in the next two or three months when there

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Speaker 1: determined state by state. Now, in this context, I just

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Speaker 1: I cons we got a minute left today. I just

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Speaker 1: through parts of your state and can you give us

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Speaker 1: an update in terms of just where that process stands.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so many people praying for for all all

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Speaker 1: the meanwhile, we have to make sure that we have

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Speaker 1: with climate change, cougression, and Judy to such a busy

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Speaker 1: day for you. I'm so appreciative of you calling in

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Speaker 1: to make time for this program. She's a Democrat in California.

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Speaker 1: And of course we're all thinking about the Bobcat fires

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Speaker 1: and uh A Disney day, another another massive story, never

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Speaker 1: enough time coming up. We're checking with Rick Davis. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington Correspondent, FRO Bloomberg TV and Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound on with Kevin

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Speaker 1: Surrele on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f

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Speaker 1: M HD two. I'm Kevin CURRELLI Chief Washington correspondent from

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio. You know, it's been

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Speaker 1: a long couple of days here. I am trying to

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Speaker 1: catch my breath on Sunday. I'm thinking maybe Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: will give me something to look forward to. What does

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Speaker 1: he do? He bombs? He didn't just bomb, he tanked,

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Speaker 1: total embarrassment to the city of brotherly Love. Nothing. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm owing too, you know. Now I'm going too. And

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Speaker 1: then to top it all off, I've got these staffers

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Speaker 1: from the West Coast Los Angeles, US. I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: say it to the congressman. I didn't want to get

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Speaker 1: too political. And they're texting me all see that at

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Speaker 1: the Ribs beat the Eagles. You know, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But the fill I

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Speaker 1: will say this, as I told my friend the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: sound guy or gal who hit the boo button, there's

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Speaker 1: no fans in the stands, and Carson Wentz still managed

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Speaker 1: to get booed because of the boo button only in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: My name is Kevin's really, I'm the chief. Washington corresponded

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Speaker 1: from Blomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis. Are you an Eagles fan? I take it not.

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Speaker 1: He's a partner at Stone Corps. Capital used to manage

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Speaker 1: job the late great Senator John McCain's o a presidential

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Speaker 1: After that introduction, I'm afraid to say a word. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to make you mad. You're a Cowboys fan, Oh,

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Speaker 1: definitely not. Uh. You know, I've gone through a trans transition.

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Speaker 1: I was a Redskins fan, than a Jets fan, and

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Speaker 1: now I'm a Chargers fan. So I'm an open all

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Speaker 1: of our country. How do you even how no loyalty record,

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Speaker 1: It's beyond the idea I go with whoever I can

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Speaker 1: get tickets from. Well, I don't think i'd be back

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Speaker 1: welcomed back to Delco if I over pulled that. But

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Speaker 1: it's just it's, you know what, it's been a brutal

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Speaker 1: Let's just that do's something we can all agree on,

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Speaker 1: all right. The scot Is pick. I mean, it's injected

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Speaker 1: a lot of volatility into this race, to say the obvious.

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Speaker 1: But everyone always says, oh, this is unprecedented, this is unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: We've never been here before. Is that true? Rick Davis?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean I think there have been fourteen

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Speaker 1: you know, uh Supreme Court picks during election year, seven

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Speaker 1: of which actually got confirmed in that year. So I

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Speaker 1: mean this is this is not as rare as people

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Speaker 1: are making it out to be. Uh. And even in

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Speaker 1: just the last few years there this has now occurred twice.

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Speaker 1: So um uh, it comes up. It's a reality of

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Speaker 1: life and we need to deal with it. And there

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Speaker 1: are pluses and minuses. I would say this volatility has

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Speaker 1: frozen the election, which I know doesn't make any sense whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: But that's well, I mean it's and and I say

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Speaker 1: this because it's again I keep going back to what

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Speaker 1: some Republicans are saying, which is, if we have a

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Speaker 1: situation where the election case ends up at the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court and there is not a full bench, who does

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Speaker 1: that even benefit? I mean, this could get so incredibly

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Speaker 1: crazy that it's it's hard to comprehend. And I hate

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Speaker 1: doing hypotheticals, especially as a journalist, but this is all

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Speaker 1: on a collision course. Well, I mean, it's not such

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Speaker 1: a hypothetical. You know, in our lifetime, we've already had

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court way in on one election in you know,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and and it wouldn't be shocked to anybody

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Speaker 1: that there is a debate over who the winner is

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Speaker 1: of this election. It's I go two ways. I still

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Speaker 1: believe that there is a chance that this is a

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Speaker 1: you know, blue wave election, similar too was in an

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Speaker 1: eighteen um. But if it's not, I believe it will

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Speaker 1: be a close race. And and in that case, I

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Speaker 1: believe what Donald Trump tells us, because every time we

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Speaker 1: don't think he's being serious, we're wrong. If he he

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Speaker 1: says he's going to dispute the election, he says it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be stolen from him. And and when it's one

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Speaker 1: thing if you're a Candida saying that, it's a different

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Speaker 1: thing if you're a president saying that. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and that's just what I find That's just like what

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Speaker 1: I find remarkable, Rick Davis, is that here we are,

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Speaker 1: I mean, with the Supreme Court. One day there could

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Speaker 1: be a confirmation hearing, and then that night there could

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Speaker 1: be a presidential debate. I mean, it is, it's it's

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Speaker 1: almost it's it's almost so out there that it's it's inconceivable.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, to put on my political cap

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Speaker 1: for a second. Who does it help, Because I think

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Speaker 1: both bases will be so incredibly mobilized at the prospects

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Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court. Oh, I totally agree with the

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Speaker 1: And it's going to excite everybody. Everybody who's already on

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Speaker 1: a Richter scale of one to ten ten being the

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Speaker 1: most excited and committed to this election. Everyone's already the ten,

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Speaker 1: So they're going to go to eleven on this one, right.

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Speaker 1: And and yet the one guy who I think it

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Speaker 1: really benefits in the short run it's Biden because it

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Speaker 1: does freeze up the election. Nobody knows who he's going

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Speaker 1: to point this week. This is another lost week for Trump, right,

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Speaker 1: there's no winner lose this week. But the fact that

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Speaker 1: he hasn't made any gains on Biden is probably a

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Speaker 1: disadvantage for him. But for the balance of the election

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Speaker 1: the next forty days, I would say it a newer

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Speaker 1: is to Trump's favor because he got he's got a

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Speaker 1: talking point now. I mean, he's been talking about about

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Speaker 1: the down economy as it relates to the pandemic that

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Speaker 1: relates to social justice. I mean, none of these things

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Speaker 1: on the headlines are are good for him. He's he's

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Speaker 1: got a bad deck of cards, and now someone has

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Speaker 1: finally given him a new deck of cards to play with,

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be better than what he's had

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Speaker 1: to deal with, all Right, So we do the same

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Speaker 1: on the show called It's on Your Radar, And today

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Speaker 1: there's two we gotta because there was a Scotus day.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell us what's on our radar because we

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Speaker 1: gotta hit these other two big stories. The first is uh,

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Speaker 1: the Oracle deal, because no one even knows that the

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Speaker 1: bike dance TikTok Oracle deal is going to be followed

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Speaker 1: through upon doubts emerged Monday about Oracles deal to take

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Speaker 1: over TikTok reading from the terminal, as President Trump said

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Speaker 1: he may still may still renege on his approval, and

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Speaker 1: the Chinese government signaled reluctance through state owned media. I've

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Speaker 1: been reading up on this all day. I've been trying

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Speaker 1: to figure it out, asking sources and whatnot, Rick Davis.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I still think

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Speaker 1: it's important. I know I want to remove the politics

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Speaker 1: from it. I still think it's an important precedent setting

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Speaker 1: story because it's signals that the US, regardless of whether

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Speaker 1: telling UH China that the same limitations A put on

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Speaker 1: UH intellectual property restrictions from US based companies in their market,

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Speaker 1: the US is now starting to do the same. How's

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Speaker 1: that for reciprocity. Yeah. We actually used to criticize governments

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Speaker 1: for picking winners and losers in their economy. We believe

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Speaker 1: in a free market system where the best companies that

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Speaker 1: Not anymore. But but it's but it's but it's also

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to do so when there's national security concerns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't know. If I

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Speaker 1: think it's fascinating to see how the Internet, it's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: but that's definitely all my radar. And I think what

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Speaker 1: you just laid out and the free market argument when

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Speaker 1: you've got Secretary Pompeos speaking at the Nixon Library the

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Speaker 1: other week saying essentially, well, what have we gotten from

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Speaker 1: a post fifth nearly fifty years after President Nixon went

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Speaker 1: over there to Beijing and said, you know that that

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a reciprocal relationship. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to can make the case that it hasn't

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Speaker 1: been to reciprocal. Okay, Uh. And then President Trump. Iran

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Speaker 1: is the other thing on my radar. President Trump said

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Speaker 1: he would call on the U n UH security. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's for additional sanctions potentially on Iran, and the State's

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Speaker 1: Department also UH looking at additional sanctions on that as

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Speaker 1: well as so lots on that front as well. Rick Damus, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the Iran thing is just a component part of

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Speaker 1: this overall peace agreement that he's reached with UAE and Bahrain,

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Speaker 1: bringing Israel into the Coalition of Arab states that are

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Speaker 1: threatened by Iran, and and Iran is the gift that

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Speaker 1: just keeps on giving. I would anticipate many other countries

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East opening up diplomatic relations with Israel

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Speaker 1: with the eye toward building up their own defenses in

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Speaker 1: order to contain Iran. I mean, we've already seen the

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Speaker 1: UAE working out a deal for f thirty fives with

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump as almost a quid pro quo for the

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Speaker 1: for the UH peace Agreement. Who cares we got peace

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East. We don't see that very often,

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Speaker 1: and so his tactics are different. But he's getting to

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Speaker 1: a place where most other presidents have failed. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I think Jared Kushner, you know, he's even Jared Kushner

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Speaker 1: is even getting praise from some Democrats for for just

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Speaker 1: how he's been able to navigate through that UH the

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Speaker 1: normalization of those ties with Israel. Hey Rick Rick Davis,

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Speaker 1: partner at Stone Court Capital, former campaign manager for John

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Speaker 1: mckain's o A presidential campaign, and a Bloomberg contributor. I

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Speaker 1: always learned when I talked to Rick, and I'm always

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Speaker 1: filled with gratitude that the fact that rig Davis is

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Speaker 1: on my radio show. It's a pinch me moment every time,

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Speaker 1: even though he has poor taste in football. I'm Kevin Sarelli.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg.