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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast simply enjoys the buffet. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal sitting in for Dan Hans's and I'm surrounded

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Speaker 1: by a couple of heroes, Mark Sessler and Chris Wesseley.

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Speaker 1: And what's happening boys? Hey? Greg? That was an appropriate

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Speaker 1: intro from Money considering, Uh, we've got Zach Dressler on

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Speaker 1: the ones in two today and his Twitter profile obviously

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Speaker 1: loves buffet. Oh, I love anything with pizza, tacos and

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Speaker 1: burgers is all about the Z buffet. Yeah, if people

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Speaker 1: haven't been familiar to the Z drizzle, He's He's sat

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Speaker 1: in for TD way back in the day. What what

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Speaker 1: is your Twitter? What does it say on your Twitter profile? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: It's a man who enjoys pizza, tacos and burgers New York,

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Speaker 1: l A and sometimes Australia. One thing TD did before

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Speaker 1: he was here for about five minutes was take the

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Speaker 1: volume or the temperature in this room and put it

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Speaker 1: to about eighteen degrees and then for alla out of

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Speaker 1: here with a smile in his face. Well, it is

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Speaker 1: technically uh a holiday today, the President's Day Mark. How

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Speaker 1: have you celebrated dead presidents today, It's not been a

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Speaker 1: celebration on any level. I've been here since about six

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Speaker 1: in the morning, and I would not call that a

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Speaker 1: party for mattress. I've missed you, guys. It's good to

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Speaker 1: be back here. I've been on paternity leave. I still

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Speaker 1: have a couple of days technically left of that, but

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Speaker 1: I stopped in for this podcast. Dan is enjoying a

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Speaker 1: nice weekend away with the family, So yeah, it must

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Speaker 1: be hope. He's having funny. You're gonna be out next week.

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Speaker 1: Let's not bury the lead. Gregg has grown a beard.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Greg has rolled in here today with I'd

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Speaker 1: call it like one eighth of a mountain man's beard.

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Speaker 1: But it's hey, well it's heading down that road. You

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Speaker 1: you were ready to ditch it. I'm saying, stick with it.

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Speaker 1: On my first beard from Hasbro. I knew you guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna give you if you were very, very nice

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Speaker 1: about it. That's what I'm saying. We got that. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't look you're saying you want to bail on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying you need to give it more time. And

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Speaker 1: we have to go on camera for NFL now and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just saying, when else am I going

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see what I was working with here

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Speaker 1: it's been a while i'd stick with, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I went with it. Plus I look like I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: it looks good fourteen years old. Sometimes, actually I wish

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Speaker 1: it's got promised right, I think so. I mean, most

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Speaker 1: oh so you couldn't grow a food and you could

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but you're like Orlando Blooms that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really connect. That sounds nasty. Well, I think the

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Speaker 1: sound of Orlando Bloom's name means uh. We should talk

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Speaker 1: about what's coming up on this show. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Dan always says it's a big show. I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 1: this is not that big of a show. What medium side.

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Speaker 1: I've got Bucky Brooks today, That's true, that is one

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite guests. He's gonna talk about the Combine. Mark,

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Speaker 1: that pretty much makes up the whole show. So look,

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Speaker 1: quite Peyton Manning. While I was gone, we didn't get

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Speaker 1: pot Roast If Peyton Manning is making nineteen million that said,

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Speaker 1: the Jets or the Titans or some other team. I

426
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Speaker 1: never understood why the guys who can sign now, and

427
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: for the listeners out there that don't understand. If you

428
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Speaker 1: get cut early in the process, like Josh McCown did,

429
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: you can your free agency has started. You are a

430
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Speaker 1: free agent. You don't have to wait until all the

431
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: other free agents. You're the prettiest girl to day, and

432
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: there's no draft pick given to the team if they

433
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Speaker 1: get signed. Like that's what they say. Ozzy knew some

434
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: loves to sign these guys where he wouldn't lose his

435
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: give and take of conditional draft picks. That's smart, and

436
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: you're the prettiest girl. But it's a dance where all

437
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: the cool kids already decided to go away for the

438
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Speaker 1: weekend elsewhere. Or it's like school dances are no longer

439
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: cool anymore. No one's showing up to him. You're the

440
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Speaker 1: prettiest girl at that. Yeah, you've got I got a

441
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: great dance. It got like a band aid holding your

442
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: glasses together. You haven't really gone through the makeover yet.

443
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: I speaking of which, yesterday, I was walking, uh, I

444
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Speaker 1: was taking a walk with the family in my neighborhood,

445
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Speaker 1: and there was a group of like thirty kids all

446
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Speaker 1: getting ready for some sort of junior prom. I couldn't

447
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Speaker 1: tell if it was high school or a little early

448
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe middle school, I don't know, some sort of thing.

449
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: They were all in the formal where all awkwardly standing

450
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Speaker 1: around each other, and it just reminded me how happy

451
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Speaker 1: I am not to be. Maybe remember that I did

452
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: not hate that, but I think that it was awful. Well,

453
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was at the time, I

454
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Speaker 1: liked it. I don't think I went to the prom

455
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Speaker 1: at age thirteen. Okay, it wasn't a prom, it was

456
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: I was still throwing rocks of girls. It was two

457
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Speaker 1: weeks school dance, like a Valentine ze school dance, and

458
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Speaker 1: they were probably a freshman or sophomores in high school

459
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Speaker 1: something like that. But it was just I saw them

460
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Speaker 1: all standing around each other looking terribly awkward. The boys,

461
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: the kid the boys in the suits were you know,

462
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: just well, the painfully awful dance where obviously, like in

463
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Speaker 1: sixth grade, every guy lined up on one side, every

464
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Speaker 1: girl on the other. And by the end, I remember

465
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Speaker 1: having to slow dance with someone to like take my

466
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Speaker 1: breath away from top gun, and it's, you know, the

467
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: total disaster. You were. You were a lothario. You were

468
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Speaker 1: picking these girls off like that would not even be

469
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Speaker 1: close to But you gotta get in the game. You

470
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Speaker 1: gotta get in the game, can't. I was like, listen,

471
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Speaker 1: I can stand around talking about the New York Jets

472
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Speaker 1: with these guys on the sideline here, or you get

473
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Speaker 1: in the game, you can you make it happen. Were

474
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Speaker 1: you much of a school dance kind of Maven? I

475
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Speaker 1: went to school dances and did the occasional slow dance,

476
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Speaker 1: but I wasn't like getting out there for fast dances.

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Speaker 1: I don't dance, No, not for the fact, but by

478
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Speaker 1: the way, I listened to the last show, UH with

479
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes, which was one of the best shows that

480
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Speaker 1: we've ever done. It was I and I wasn't there,

481
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: so read it into that way you will, uh, But

482
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Speaker 1: Lindsay it was maybe the best guests we've ever had,

483
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Speaker 1: like repeat guest more than potentially just gotta whatever she

484
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: wants to come on, she should do it. And then

485
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler I also thought was delightful. Maybe that was biased. Well,

486
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Speaker 1: you guys did a good job. He was you could

487
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Speaker 1: tell he was a little shy, but he seemed like

488
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Speaker 1: a nice guy, and you guys said, yeah, it was good.

489
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: He was refreshingly shy for an athlete. This was a

490
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Speaker 1: long yeah. I mean, he's coming undrafted from West Alabama.

491
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Speaker 1: This is a long way of getting to the point

492
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Speaker 1: that I listened to Dan start looking for your dates,

493
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Speaker 1: basically that he's using the show. Now I feel like

494
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Speaker 1: this could violate HR policy. Alright, alright, alright that that

495
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Speaker 1: I guess what I wanted to do is follow up

496
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Speaker 1: a little bit as anyone reached out to you as anything.

497
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Speaker 1: I've gotten a few tweets, um, but as I mentioned

498
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Speaker 1: on the show, I don't go on dates. So it's

499
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: sort of to what end West painted himself to some

500
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: degree into a corn or by listing a pretty dense,

501
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: neck up laundry list of requirements that any woman would

502
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: need to pass to Eatah, they were it was insane.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't think that you would actually go at this

504
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Speaker 1: list in real life. Well, whatever it was, I said,

505
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: they have to be flawed. And I said it was

506
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Speaker 1: the bizarro batchelor. You need, you need a Did you

507
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Speaker 1: say something about a sixth finger on it? I did

508
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Speaker 1: not say anything about a six finger, but I said

509
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Speaker 1: I like a pistol, like a girl who's got some

510
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Speaker 1: fire tour. That's number one. And the second thing flawed,

511
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Speaker 1: I mean people who are flawed. I mean in a

512
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Speaker 1: sense of you're probably over thirty and have made some

513
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Speaker 1: mistakes in life and have been humbled by them. Okay,

514
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Speaker 1: And I think that people who come from a a

515
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Speaker 1: background where things haven't come easily to you and you've

516
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Speaker 1: made mistakes, you tend to be a funnier and have

517
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Speaker 1: a better sense of humor. You What I'm reading between

518
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: the lines is you don't want to You want someone

519
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Speaker 1: age appropriate. He doesn't want a millennial partly partly I

520
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with millennials. And now you don't

521
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: want like the Grant Hill of women who thinks he's perfect,

522
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Speaker 1: and you want an aging mistake written females. I get it.

523
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Unlike a lot of men in our age bracket, he's

524
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Speaker 1: not looking for a twenty five year old that's full

525
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: of vim and vigor, like like Zack Dressler. He wants

526
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Speaker 1: someone that's been through a couple of wars. I do,

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Speaker 1: I want a woman, not a girl and adult. Want

528
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Speaker 1: someone that's broken, broken but not beyond repair. You want

529
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Speaker 1: like the forty year old version of Juno. And I

530
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Speaker 1: had to talk with NFL Now's Colleen Woof about this.

531
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Speaker 1: She listens to the podcast and she said when she

532
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Speaker 1: heard flawed, she knew exactly what I meant and she

533
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Speaker 1: would look for the same thing. I like it. Well,

534
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about football on like seven minutes in

535
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Speaker 1: the way having this show, Dan would be proud. February. Uh,

536
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Speaker 1: let's wrap up with a couple of quick stories. Marshawn Lynch.

537
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: His back issues, according to Ian Rappaport or NFL Media Insider,

538
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: our chronic and there are legitimate concerns he might retire again.

539
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Speaker 1: We are we buying any of this we from all

540
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Speaker 1: off season? Well, I'm not saying that that he doesn't know,

541
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Speaker 1: but I know I'm not buying that he's actually gonna

542
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: follow through with retirement all off season last year. What's

543
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: going to happen with Marshall Lynch. I refuse to listen

544
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Speaker 1: to any of it. I think part of it is

545
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: it gives him some leverage in any contract talks. I

546
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: think that would anyone talk a Yeah, I think so too,

547
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: because he's under contract for a pretty good salary. Really,

548
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, if they do give him more money, and

549
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're willing to like that's that's showing

550
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: a lot. Because he's he's under contract for a top five,

551
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: top six salary. It's like, all right, Marshall Lynch, you'll

552
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: be you'll be back, He'll be back. Let's wrap up

553
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Speaker 1: with another guy who figured prominently in the NFC Championship game.

554
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: The Packers said goodbye to Brandon Bostick on Monday, probably

555
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: the second and only time Brandon Bostick will be mentioned

556
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: on this show. I feel like the Packers are almost

557
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: being jerks here. It's almost like, because of that play,

558
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: they should have just held on to him and let

559
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Speaker 1: him try to make the team. I get that, and

560
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: all the fallout on Twitter was that the Packers are

561
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: cutting this guy only because of what happened on that

562
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: one play. They this is what happens in the off season.

563
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: For people who may not be familiar with what coaching

564
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: staffs do in January and early February. They spend that

565
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: time reviewing not just the tape from every game, but

566
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Speaker 1: the tape from practices. And they've seen this guy who

567
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: was a college basketball player, and they've been kind of

568
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: talking him up the last two years as a guy

569
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Speaker 1: with rawal talent, who if he can learn how to

570
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Speaker 1: play football. I think they've just evaluated that he can't.

571
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: That he after seeing him in practice. He didn't get

572
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Speaker 1: on the field enough. And it's not like they had

573
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Speaker 1: some all pro tight end out there keeping him off

574
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Speaker 1: the field. And they're not the kind of team that's

575
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Speaker 1: gonna try to send a message about the NFC titled

576
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: game with this kind of thing. And we're seeing players

577
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: cut this week by every team, little movements being made

578
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: ahead of the combine. I don't think it's surprising. He

579
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: wasn't on the field that much for them anyways, thirty

580
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: four snaps all season. So yeah, you just feel for

581
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Speaker 1: I will remember how he handled that like that night.

582
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: You know he knew, especially the next day. I watched

583
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: his interview in the Packers locker room when they were

584
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: clearing out for the season, and he handled it with

585
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: made himself available right and you didn't have to do

586
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: that right, and he took every question and he handled

587
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: it in like a really mature, sort of impressive adult way,

588
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: and you just felt for him because you could also understand,

589
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you could also see that he understood exactly his role

590
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: in what was a pretty momentous game. And that's, you know,

591
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna remember Brandon Bostick for. Unfortunately, I

592
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: think when you make a mistake sometimes you immediately know

593
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: the ramifications and then it's not just the ramifications for you,

594
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: but your teammates and coaches, and you of course feel

595
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: like you know you're you're an inch high, you couldn't

596
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: feel any lower. And then you know, I agree, he

597
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: handled that pretty well for somebody who just made a

598
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: huge mistake. Seventy two passes for the Patriots hopeful A. Uh,

599
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: everyone out there feels much taller than an inch high.

600
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I know I do. After seeing you guys again, Beard,

601
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: it makes you look taller. Uh. Let's bring in one

602
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: of our favorite guests then and see if he can

603
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: make us feel even taller than that. And then let's

604
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: be honest. We we talked about Kevin Patras having some

605
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: great body or whatever. It's like Bucky Brooks is in

606
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: shape compared to the rest of us. No, no, I'm

607
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: just taking Dan's role. Bucky Brooks is the man we

608
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: should be admiring because, unlike us, he still works out

609
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's got a schedule, he's carved out

610
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: of stone. Former NFL player. Uh, let's welcome him in,

611
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and it's your time of year. We really

612
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: will have you on regularly as we head up into

613
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Speaker 1: the draft because we don't know anything about the draft,

614
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and as the years get further away from the start

615
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: of our careers. Especially I can think of Chris and

616
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Speaker 1: I because we worked together a long time. I I

617
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: feel like I used to know a lot and now

618
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: I just I just pass it all over the guys

619
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Speaker 1: like Bucky, because you can't compete with the draft necks.

620
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: So I'll figure it all out, you know, April May.

621
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: And that's right, that's the only time, the only time

622
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: it matters, the draft all as you have it all

623
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: figured out by then, that's the only thing that but

624
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: you can teach us. We know this. This next period,

625
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: including the combine, to me, is about learning about these guys.

626
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: So so let's start with it this week you're heading

627
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: over to the comment what what are you looking for?

628
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Is there two three players that stand out to you

629
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: as kind of big time players that you want to

630
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: see what they do this week? Yeah? I mean to

631
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Speaker 1: start it off, understand, the combine is really one of

632
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: those things where you're trying to really just figure out

633
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: who guys are. Uh to understand the process. The coaches

634
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: have just finished the regular season. A lot of the

635
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: coaches will go to the combine. They haven't even seen

636
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: these guys on tape. They may be familiar with their

637
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: names off TV scouting, but they haven't dug into the tape,

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Speaker 1: so they don't know him. This is really their first

639
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Speaker 1: exposure to the guy. So those fifteen minute interviews when

640
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: they kind of interact with the guys, that's their first

641
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to really find out who the names are. Massing

642
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: up the names and faces from a scouting stand a point,

643
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: what the combine is really meant to do is to

644
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Speaker 1: provide you with the medical information and to give you

645
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get the interviews done so you can

646
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Speaker 1: really complete the background info. Yes, the running around in

647
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: shorts and all that other stuff matters, but it only

648
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: matters to a point. The good teams based their evaluations

649
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: off the tape. The bad teams fall in love with

650
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: guys in shorts and they forget that what you do

651
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: in shorts doesn't always necessarily equate to what you play

652
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: like on the field. That's exactly what I was saying

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Speaker 1: right before Buckey walking in the room. He had on

654
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Speaker 1: all my points, getting basically the combine. You'all all you

655
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Speaker 1: need is the interview. In the medicals, we've seen guys

656
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Speaker 1: like JaMarcus Russell becomes a number one overall pick because

657
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: of what he does in the throwing session. Teddy Bridgewater

658
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: gets slammed for what he does in the throwing session.

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Speaker 1: Nobody walked away from the combine last year saying Odell

660
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Speaker 1: Beckham is easily the best athlete in this class. And

661
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: these are things that are self evident on film. Yeah,

662
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: you have to stick to the film. I always tell guys, like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm a scout and if I was doing the process,

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Speaker 1: I would tell all my scalts put the pens down

665
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Speaker 1: at the end of the ball, because nothing should really

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Speaker 1: change after that. Whatever whatever you're seeing on film, that's

667
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Speaker 1: what the guy is. But because the draft is so

668
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Speaker 1: far away from the end of the regular season. We

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Speaker 1: allow ourselves to kind of get pulled in different directions

670
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: based off how someone works out, based on the egos

671
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: that we all have as football people, that, oh, well,

672
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: if this guy's discould have an athlete, my coaching will

673
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: allow him to be that much better. But in reality,

674
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: most people play like they play in tape on college.

675
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Or I saw something in the way this guy moved

676
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: that maybe another guy didn't see. And I have this

677
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: innate vision that sounds great, but that's not reality. Like

678
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Speaker 1: people do go way up and you said, okay, the

679
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Speaker 1: bad teams draft based on the combine, But it seems

680
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Speaker 1: like players value what I always hear that speech around

681
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Speaker 1: this time of year, but that the combin doesn't matter,

682
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Speaker 1: or that the workouts don't matter that much, And then

683
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Speaker 1: they do. They do matter. People make money and and

684
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Speaker 1: maybe it's you can call the teams, but there's a

685
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Speaker 1: lot of bad teams in hap. Yeah, bad teams when

686
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Speaker 1: it comes when it comes to drafting, like what the

687
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: combine should do? So say West and Mark are similar

688
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: players on tape. Typically what you do is when you

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Speaker 1: go to the combin and you and you measure the

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Speaker 1: athletic battery of tests. Typically, if guys are even you

691
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: want to go with the better athlete thing. In the

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Speaker 1: National Football League when it comes to special teams in

693
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: other ways that you can contribute, the better athlete will

694
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Speaker 1: have a better opportunity to be a contributing fact. I

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Speaker 1: got West definitely thinks he's the better athlete. He's already

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Speaker 1: angry with right now that moment. You can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: measure what Mark has inside. He has pluck, like a

698
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick, like Tom Brady, he's got heart. You

699
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: can't that's right, you can't measure. And that's why it's

700
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Speaker 1: really an inexact science, like the fact that Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: being a sixth round pick, uh, doesn't necessarily look the

702
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: part when you watch him work out in drills. But

703
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day is how you play

704
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Speaker 1: the game, and so you have to really keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind. Go back to the tape Ron Wolfe, who

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Speaker 1: actually taught the guys that I learned from John Snyder,

707
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Speaker 1: Scott McCluin or whatever. He always said that when you

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Speaker 1: go to the combine, look to find the positives in

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Speaker 1: the player, not the negatives. So the combines shouldn't hurt you.

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: It should make you only go back to the tape

711
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: and see if the things that showed up at the common,

712
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: whether someone was slower than anticipated, whether someone measured shorter

713
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Speaker 1: than anticipated. Is it an issue on tape? Do they

714
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Speaker 1: run slow? Do they play slow? Did they have issues

715
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Speaker 1: if you're cornerback dealing with bigger bodied receivers, all of

716
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: those things. So take what you learned from the combine

717
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and then measure it up against what you saw on

718
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Speaker 1: the tap. One thing with the obviously the two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are gonna get more attention than you deserve because their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned with Jamis Winston, you said he was

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Speaker 1: basically think of big Ben in the pocket, and we

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Speaker 1: heard you talk about Mariota on this podcast a couple

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Speaker 1: of months ago. I kind of pand them compared to

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Speaker 1: some of the people throw them up. There is a

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Speaker 1: number one overall pack If you changed your feel on

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Speaker 1: him or do you How do you feel with these

727
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Speaker 1: two guys right now? Yeah? I still I still feel

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Speaker 1: the same. I feel like Jamis is the number one

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Speaker 1: overall in terms of quarterbacks. He's the number one overall.

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Speaker 1: The reason Jameis is that size factor arm strength, all

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Speaker 1: the other things, plus the fact that he played in

732
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Speaker 1: a pro style offense. He was asked to do things

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Speaker 1: that most quarterbacks are asked to do on Sundays, from

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Speaker 1: sight adjustments, making changes at the line of scrimmage. The

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Speaker 1: system that he played in his very conducive to a

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Speaker 1: lot of the systems that you see in the league.

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Speaker 1: And so to me, he has all the trades that

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Speaker 1: you look for. Now, a lot of people are going

739
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: to bring up the interception totals, like he had eighteen interceptions.

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Speaker 1: I think he was second in FBS football in terms

741
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Speaker 1: of the number of turnovers that he had at that position.

742
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Speaker 1: But I will say, guys who studied him go and

743
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Speaker 1: look at the majority of his interceptions were thrown to

744
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Speaker 1: his young, inexperienced receivers. And so when you are an

745
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Speaker 1: anticipation thrower where you're throwing the ball to spots and

746
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: trusting that your wide receivers get there, those young guys

747
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: were not getting there consistently. Some of those were on him,

748
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: but a lot of the throws primarily went to those

749
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Speaker 1: young receivers. So that's why you saw him big games.

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Speaker 1: It was Nico Leary and Rashard Green and those games

751
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: when he stuck to those guys, he didn't have the turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan had a lot of interceptions. I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of interceptions. I don't know if those are your examples, Yeah,

754
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, Jay Cutler Matt Ryan when they were tasked

755
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Speaker 1: to do more like Matt Ryan had nineteen interceptions at

756
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Boston College his final season, he was thirty one in

757
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: nineteen in terms of touchdown the interception ratio. A lot

758
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Speaker 1: of those is because he was trying to do too much,

759
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: trying to put the team on his back and make throws.

760
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: And with Jamis, some of that was him trying to

761
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: do too much. He's trying to leave this team back.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to make these hero throws that he ordinarily

763
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't make. And so I think you have to look

764
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: at all those interceptions in the same and really the

765
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: interceptions necessarily on the collegiate level doesn't necessarily mean or

766
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Speaker 1: translate what it would be at the pro level. Well,

767
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: the key word there was anticipation. How many how many

768
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Speaker 1: of these guys have that? You know, it's tough because

769
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Speaker 1: a lot of does a little bit. Yeah, he makes

770
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: he makes those throws like in in the National Football League,

771
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: you asked your quarterback to release the ball well before

772
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: the receiver comes open because the windows are so tight.

773
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Speaker 1: Jamis played in a system that frequently required him to

774
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Speaker 1: do so. When you even go back to the semifinal

775
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: game and everyone remembers the blunder, the phone bole, or

776
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Speaker 1: the interception that goes a ride, but if you look

777
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Speaker 1: at the throws that he had to make against a

778
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Speaker 1: team that played primarily Zonn, he fit the ball and

779
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: really worked between the hashes. And working between the hashes,

780
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: and my estimation, is the toughest thing for young quarterbacks

781
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Speaker 1: because there are a lot of bodies. You have to

782
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Speaker 1: be very precise where you're throwing. Jamis doesn't have that fear,

783
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: and because of that, you can think that his game

784
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: could accelerate very quickly in the National Football League with

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00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the right coach and the right system. And I also

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00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: kind of connected the docks where dut dirt Cutter going

787
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Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay. Dirt Cutter has always done a great

788
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: job with young quarterbacks. You look at what he did

789
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Speaker 1: with David Garrand and Jacksonville. Say what you want to

790
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Speaker 1: about David Garrand and how talented he was. He found

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00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: a way to have him being very, very Successums. Yeah,

792
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: he looked really good on the dirt. Look at what

793
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: he did with Matt Ryan. He freed Matt Ryan to

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00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: run a lot of no huddle stuff. He put a

795
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: system in place that allowed him to play to his strengths.

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Speaker 1: Didn't push the ball vertically a lot, but he did

797
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: a great job of getting the ball to his playmakers.

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: So if you give him a talented player, he'll find

799
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: a way to make him work. He probably could do

800
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: the same thing with Marcus Mariota. My concern would just

801
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: be that Jameis is a more refined pocket pass than

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Speaker 1: Marcus is at that time. Doesn't mean that Marcus can't

803
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Speaker 1: become that guy, but Jamis is more ready to play

804
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Speaker 1: right now than Marcus is. Getting me excited about Jameis Winston,

805
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying because Jake Cutler has had a long

806
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: NFL career where he got paid a lot, he still

807
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have any anticipation. Was one of my favorite quarter

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Cam Newton does. Cam is different

809
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Speaker 1: because he played in the system of spray system where

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: the reason are really the play action really clears of

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Speaker 1: the reef for the quarterback. Cam when he's at his

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Speaker 1: best is when Mike Shooling those guys put him in

813
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Speaker 1: a situation where he does a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: he did in college. A lot of times when you

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Speaker 1: wonder about why guys make it or don't make it,

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00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: is because it's to fit within the scheme. Oh, I'm

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00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: a big proponent of when you take a player put

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Speaker 1: him in a situation where he can play to his strength.

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Speaker 1: But if you ask one, for instance, Colin Kaepernick early

820
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Speaker 1: in his career, they did things that he did in Nevada,

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Speaker 1: he looked a different like a different player. Last year

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Speaker 1: they had him trying to do conventional traditional stuff. He

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Speaker 1: struggled the same thing with r G three guys who

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Speaker 1: what they are. You have to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: build around that. That's the only way you can get

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Speaker 1: This isn't that hard, though, because now so many quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are growing up in college in non NFL type schemes

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Speaker 1: not and you know you can't ask every NFL team

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Speaker 1: to shift into some sort of college attack. No, you can't.

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Speaker 1: But what they can do very early in the career,

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Speaker 1: they can bring some of those elements early and then

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Speaker 1: you challenge the player as he develops to learn more

833
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: of the traditional stuff, but early on, if you want

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Speaker 1: to have a young player having success, do a lot

835
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Speaker 1: of the stuff that he did in college, some of

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Speaker 1: the concepts that I get them going, but then it's

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Speaker 1: on them we continue develop and move past that. Well,

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00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: we have to. I mean, this isn't our strength from

839
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Speaker 1: a podcast studio a hundred thousand miles away. But we

840
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Speaker 1: have to mention the character issue with Jamie's right. I mean,

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00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: we can't just gloss You can't gloss over It's something

842
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: that it has to be investigated, something that's very very

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00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: real when you're going into these interviews and you you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with that. To talk about the character thing, there

845
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: are a couple of different things. The league has their

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00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: own security team that back they'll do all the background

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: check on Jamis. Every team typically has their own security

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: team that will also do the background checks and vet

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00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: out everything. Then he would sit in these meetings at

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Speaker 1: the combine. You'll talk to the general manager, head coach,

851
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Speaker 1: to aria scouts, and he will have an opportunity to

852
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: tell his side of the story, how his side of

853
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: the story matches up with what they find when they

854
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: do the background will determine where the guys feel comfortable

855
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: with him being trustworthy, whether they feel like you will

856
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: have any more transgressions, and if they can get the

857
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: owner on board with him being the face of the franchise.

858
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: So a lot of his work will be done behind

859
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: the scenes, not what we see on the field. If

860
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: you're one of these teams that you know you're not

861
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: picking top ten, you wanna maybe get a quarterback later

862
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, I had someone at the

863
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: super Bowl during the Super Bowl Week. I said, what's

864
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: the situation beyond the first two? And the guy just said,

865
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: absolute crap. Yeah. I mean a lot, a lot, a

866
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: lot of question marks. I mean, when you think about

867
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: the guys immediately after Jamis and Marcus Mariotta, Bryce Petty

868
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: and Brent Hunley under two guys that are frequently cited.

869
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: Both guys played in a spread type system. Huntley's is

870
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: a little different than what we saw at Baylor with Hunley.

871
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Hunley is a talented athlete. Uh, he can move around,

872
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: he can make plays with his legs. I kind of

873
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: liken them to what Ryan Tannehill is at his best.

874
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I think he has the ability to make some throws.

875
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: He still needs to work on some of his deep

876
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: ball accuracy and placement, but he has the tools to

877
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: eventually develop into a good player. The thing that you

878
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: worry about Brent Hunley is his pocket awareness. He took

879
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks where you think a guy that

880
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: his dad talented, dead athletic would be able to get

881
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: out of those plays. And also some of those things

882
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: like let the ball go, don't sit there and wait

883
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: and wait and wait for you gotta get open, find

884
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: the check down, get out of you can't take negative

885
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: plays Bryce Patty. The big issue is he's playing in

886
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: an offensive system that is unlike anything that we see

887
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and so we've seen a

888
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of people ring up big numbers in that system,

889
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: not only r G three, Nick Flow some some of

890
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: the other players that played in that system put big

891
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: numbers up, much like the guys in Texas Tech. What

892
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: you need to see from Bryce Petty is is he

893
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: talented enough to be a guy that can take his

894
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: game and put into another system and have success. The

895
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: jury is out because I really worry about his deep

896
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: ball accuracy. I'd worry about some of the awareness, and

897
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl he kind of struggled making that transition.

898
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: So how much weight do you put on the guy

899
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: that struggles in all of those areas? Do you take

900
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: him second round, third round and say this is gonna

901
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: be the guy in my future? Can we develop him?

902
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, a lot will be determined in his private workout.

903
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: People will say it's crap, but because it's quarterback, they'll

904
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: get pushed up to the second the third round, and

905
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: they'll start games this year. They'll start games as rookie

906
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberger started half the season. It's just that's what happens.

907
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: If it's not gonna be everyone, but a couple of

908
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: them will wind up getting a chance to start games

909
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: right away. The guy that will be the Zach Mettenberger

910
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: of this class will be Sean Mannion from Oregon State.

911
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Sean Mannion played at Oregon State under Mike Riley, a

912
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: former pro NFL head coach. A guy that runs a

913
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: pro style system, very comfortable into things much like Za

914
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Mettenberger did that are asked of quarterbacks on Sundays, and

915
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: so if you're looking for a guy that could come

916
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: in and maybe play as a rookie and have a

917
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: moderate level of success, Sean man you may ignore his numbers.

918
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: He was not great this year at Oregon State, but

919
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: he also didn't have the Brandon Cookes that he had

920
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: he had Markus Weed and Brandon Cooks two years before.

921
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: His numbers look different. You surround him with a talented cast.

922
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: He could be a guy that could be successed by

923
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback. We only have two more minutes with Bucky

924
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Brooks before he has to head out and going to Indiana. Plus,

925
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: let's talk a little running back, just because I feel

926
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: like the value of running backs has been devalued so

927
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: much in the draft lately, but right now it's an

928
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: interesting offseason with some big names possibly moving places. I

929
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: think we also saw with with de Marco Murray and

930
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: other running backs, obviously Leban Bell. It is valuable to

931
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: have a running back like Levyan Bell was one of

932
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: the best picks the last few years. Givanni Bernard was

933
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: a great pick, Jeremy Hill was a great pick. At

934
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: some point, the teams are gonna realize, oh, maybe it'd

935
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: be okay to take them a little bit earlier because

936
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: those guys are working out. Yeah, they're devalued on draft Day,

937
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: but they're not diminished in importance. You still need to

938
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: have a feature back because it really alleviates a lot

939
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: of depressure on the quarterback. So who are the guys

940
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: to watch this week? The guys to watch, obviously, the

941
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: first name, because of mine, would be Melvin Gordon from Wisconsin.

942
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: The big name with Melvin Gordon, big, fast and physical,

943
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: home run threat, a guy that really has the ability

944
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: to make plays, not only as a runner but as

945
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: a receiver. I kind of liken him to Jamal Charles

946
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: if you think about what Jamal Charles has been to

947
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City's offense, I think Melvin Gordon can be that

948
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: kind of player. No, I mean I think everyone the

949
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: third round pick, he was a third round pick, talk

950
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: about that. That's one that you look back on and

951
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: I remember when Charles came out and everyone thought, was

952
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: that the same draft as Chris Johnson. Everyone thought, this

953
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: is kind of I don't know if it was the

954
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: same draft as Chris Johnson. There were there were in

955
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: the same things. But the thing if everyone thought he's

956
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: gonna be too light third round. He was a track star.

957
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: He didn't put up consistent production at the University of Texas.

958
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: He gets to the National Football League, has an opportunity

959
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: plays in assistant that is really conduced to his talents

960
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: has a lot of success. You know, Like the thing

961
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: about the running back position. Um, yeah, you don't necessarily

962
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: need to expend the first round pick, but if you

963
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: find a guy in the second and third round, that's

964
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: what teams are doing. The sweet spot for running backs

965
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: in the second and third round. Frank Gore, I mean

966
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: it goes on and on and on and on, second

967
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: and third round especially. Yeah, absolutely, Bucky specially. I think

968
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: Miami's Duke Johnson. Duke Johnson reminds me of Shady McCoy.

969
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's very athletic. He can run inside

970
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: and outside, catches the ball very very well, very familiar

971
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: with him, knowing him, watching him since high school. This

972
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: is a guy that could be a standout player. A

973
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are really excited about a mere Abdullah

974
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: from Nebraska. When I talk to people, they say, look,

975
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: this guy is very, very talented. He's underrated for some reason.

976
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Um he's five nine pounds. Kind of runs like Justin

977
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Forcet for the Baltimore Ravens. So when you think about

978
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: Justin forced fit into that zone based running game, I

979
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: think a mere Abdula can do that also catches the ball.

980
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: And then the guy that is really going to get

981
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: a lot of attention because he's a bigger back, Jay

982
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: a gie from Boise State, big, fast and physical, can run.

983
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Sounds like science fiction. Yeah, I mean just just just

984
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: big is writing them out down. I like this West

985
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: is really going to school. He's like, Okay, Bucky says,

986
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: these guys are I'm going to check it out. I

987
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: have a secretary that transcribes, yeah, you like these yo.

988
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: Ti Gurle is one. Thy girl would probably be the

989
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: most talented running back in a position had the a

990
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: c L injury. What team will take a chance of

991
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: him at the bottom of the first round. I think

992
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: when you're looking at yeah, yeah, because because if if

993
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: he's healthy, I think there's a bit of a separation

994
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: between Thy Girle and what Melvin Gordon is big, very

995
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: similar to what Marshawn Lynch was when I watched him

996
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: at Chale. This guy is a big body guy that

997
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: can catch. He's a super good athlete, very explosive return kicks,

998
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: had a touchdown return of a hund of yards on

999
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: a kickoff. He can do it all. Sounds like a Patriot.

1000
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: No One loves taking chances players more than they're the

1001
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: fantasy guy who always takes like four injured players at

1002
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: lower value and just hopes a couple of about hasn't

1003
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: worked away. For New England, those teams at the bottom,

1004
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: teams that have won that to be at the bottom,

1005
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: were knowing that they have a guy already in place.

1006
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: Because if you New England, you have La Gary Blunt.

1007
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: That's fine with Todd Gurley can't give you something as

1008
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: a rookie. You okay, I don't know, Okay Blunt, I

1009
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: don't know if you look at like, hey blunts and plays.

1010
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: But I think but I think that I'm just I'm

1011
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: just saying, like, when you think about Lagarry Blunt and

1012
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: what he gives them, they know they have a starting

1013
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: running back in La Garrett Blunt. Off the what he

1014
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: gives him, his rides to the other running backs and

1015
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: gets late to theg he didn't have. He didn't have

1016
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: to that case. I will say this that the issue

1017
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, I believe La Gary kind of danced around it,

1018
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: but he hinted to the fact that Bill Belichick shouted

1019
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: straight with him. I think Bill Belichick told him exactly

1020
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: what his role is. I think a lot of times

1021
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: in the National Ball League, your coaches don't. And so

1022
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: after he was let go, Todd Hailey talked about, Oh,

1023
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: he knew he wasn't going to play a lot in

1024
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: the game. I'm not of their minset. I believe if

1025
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: he told him the Lagary Blunt would not have had

1026
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: the reaction that he had on game day. With what

1027
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers coaches were saying in June, July, and August

1028
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: that Blunt would be a big part of the office,

1029
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: absolutely and they so they told him that, and then

1030
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: he didn't play that when Levian emerged, just shooted to

1031
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: him straight. I think Bill Belichick's best quality is he

1032
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: shot it straight with his players, which this is like

1033
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: doing a law in order or that investigation discovery. We're

1034
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: unlocking mysteries in the NFL season after they're over. Bucky Brooks,

1035
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: I know you gotta go. Thanks for joining us. We're

1036
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna have you on regularly season to school us as

1037
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: we catch up on all the Combine stuff. Hey, thanks, Thanks.

1038
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: So that was Bucky Brooks. Great talking to him. Great

1039
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: seeing you guys. As I mentioned earlier, I won't see

1040
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: you Mark Uh for another week after this because you

1041
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: are heading to indian Apple US. Well maybe we can

1042
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: we can do some FaceTime at nights or something. He's

1043
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna miss his jogging partner. Yeah, that's that was that.

1044
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: The that was that the owners. We're setting out time

1045
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 1: for that. I think this year it's in Phoenix, our old,

1046
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: our old stomping grounds there. Uh so you're gonna be

1047
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: going to the Combine. You're going with Dan Kevin Patricks

1048
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: driving down from Chicago, right, and Connor will be there.

1049
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Chris and I will be manning the shop here. We

1050
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: will do a show later this week. It's a little

1051
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: tv D, but we'll definitely have one Friday and we'll

1052
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: see if we can cook up one before that. Is

1053
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: there is there anything from your experience in Indianapolis that

1054
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: you're especially looking forward to take an advantage of this week?

1055
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's one of the rare,

1056
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: unlike super Bowl Week, which is a nightmare on some

1057
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: level because there's so many people there that aren't even

1058
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: there for football reasons. That it's actually like indies cut

1059
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: down to just football writers. You're in Starbucks and like

1060
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: John Elways getting coffee. I just like you don't know

1061
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Speaker 1: who you're gonna run into who you're gonna see, and

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00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I'll just be sad that you guys aren't there. That's

1063
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: a real to bummer. If I remember correctly, you walked

1064
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: up and introduced yourself to Bill Belichick at the show.

1065
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, well he was having dinner or something

1066
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: with what Lombardi Lombardi in the end, she yeah, Belichick

1067
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: was and Mark really thrilled to say hi to me.

1068
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: Mark interrupted their dinner to go say hello. Listen, Um,

1069
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: I hope you come back with better stories even than

1070
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: that this year. Mark, uh So, we'll look forward to

1071
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: all your coverage there for Mark Sessler, Chris Westlen, and

1072
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. I'm gonna give us music. Now, are we

1073
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna are we wait a minute, we're gonna squash there?

1074
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: Are we gonna squash this beef right now? Did his

1075
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: best to try to end that show. By the way,

1076
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: there all right for not happening. For fans of our

1077
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: podcast that don't recognize the voice, this is Daniel d

1078
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: J Jeremy, And why I was trying to hurry up

1079
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: here as I thought you were walking in DJ because

1080
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: you have an interview set up like my leg my

1081
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: legs a little sore, and I thought, Okay, I can

1082
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: go sit down to the lobby and watch people trying

1083
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: to figure out the door that's locked today because it's

1084
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: a holiday, which is kind of fun. But then I thought, why,

1085
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: why do that want to come into a freezing room

1086
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: and hang out with three of my favorite friends at

1087
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: this Well, no, and he's on that he's on the

1088
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: comeback from an achilles tear, and that what month was

1089
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: that I tore it? Late November? You're now very agile,

1090
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: You're just well, I just saw this news, would you

1091
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: guys know about right with Robert mathis potentially re injuring

1092
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: his achilles. Scared the crap out of me. Yeah, we

1093
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: didn't even put that into the news, but his agent

1094
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: denied he had some sort of setback and hopes they'll

1095
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: be ready for you so but but just the thought

1096
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: of that scares me to death. Now Dan is driving

1097
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: back from Palm Space. Well, he's on a much deserved

1098
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: vacation with wife and new baby, but on in Indianapolis tomorrow.

1099
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, how do you feel sitting in the room

1100
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: with the three of us. I don't have quite the

1101
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: voice to carry the room at Dan does so it's

1102
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: a little intimidating, but he also don't have a beef

1103
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: with the three of us. It's just Dan. Well, let's

1104
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: be honest, that's kind of what it is. Do you

1105
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: think there's any chance to come in here? If he's

1106
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: in here? Wow? I mean, first of all, you're making

1107
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: podcast history. You're the first person to ever interrupt the

1108
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: close of the show and keep it up more skilled

1109
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: music playing and everything. And we wouldn't do that for anyone.

1110
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: We would only do that for DJ, who's got his

1111
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: own podcast, great podcast, Moved the Sticks podcast. That's nice

1112
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: of you. But what do you think the percentage of

1113
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: people that on Twitter think that our our podcast beef

1114
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: is real? I would say over over fifty. Yeah, yeah,

1115
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: for for any listeners that haven't seen it, or you know,

1116
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: don't have Twitter, or people people not have Twitter. I

1117
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, my mom has been some back

1118
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: and forth, let's be honest. Some some nasty damnas been

1119
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: in the middle of it, Hansas and you especially you See,

1120
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: I thought I had I thought I had an alliance

1121
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: with Dave in this thing, and then I find out

1122
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: third party mind you about this collaboration between Damnick and

1123
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm kind of ice. Well. I was left

1124
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: out of that one, as was Greg, so we're not

1125
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: on board with you. And I think that was all

1126
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: strategic strategic too. It's interesting when I'm gone, the damn

1127
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: a check a t NFL thing comes together and when

1128
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Dan's gone, suddenly you know DJ is on the podcast,

1129
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: and I love it and we gotta have you on. Seriously,

1130
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: I just want to crash and say hello, to actually

1131
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: talk about the draft and the combine and everything else.

1132
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: We'll have DJ on soon, but until then again for Mark, Chris, DJ,

1133
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks, M Gregg Rosenthal. We'll see you later.