Speaker 1: Alright, news round up in Information Oval at hour. Here's
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Speaker 1: ninety four to one, Sean if you want to join us. So,
Speaker 1: we had Matt Towery joining us in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Yesterday and by the way, we have part two of
Speaker 1: my interview with JD.
Speaker 2: Vance.
Speaker 1: We've gotten so much, so much feedback on it. Linda,
Speaker 1: did you see all the social media pick up on it?
Speaker 1: It was massive?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people were very excited about that segment and
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi.
Speaker 1: We also had and I spend time with RFK Junior
Speaker 1: and doctor Oz and they'll join us tonight.
Speaker 2: Really really productive day.
Speaker 1: I did other things that I can't talk about yet,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I can, I will and important things.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually headed back to d C. I have
Speaker 1: another trip planned for reasons that I can't disclose either. Boy,
Speaker 1: I'm really sharing a lot with the audience today. But anyway,
Speaker 1: So we had our friend Matt Towery in studio and
Speaker 1: I I was a local radio host in Huntsville, Alabama,
Speaker 1: and I got a call one day from Eric Sidell,
Speaker 1: better known as Slugo on this program. Still friends with
Speaker 1: him to this day, still friends with the owner of
Speaker 1: the radio station at the time when I worked in Huntsville.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm friends with everybody I've
Speaker 1: ever worked for. It's crazy and anyway, and I go
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I auditioned for two days and I realized
Speaker 1: why I am auditioning because the star radio host in
Speaker 1: the market at the time for somewhat thirty years was
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Neil Bortz, and he
Speaker 1: had jump ship from Sidell station, the news Monster we
Speaker 1: called it back in the day, to what he referred
Speaker 1: to affectionately as the ex wife, to another station, and
Speaker 1: I got hired over after the two day audition. Little
Speaker 1: did I know I was going up against a monster
Speaker 1: in the market, but it was an originally not planned
Speaker 1: to be that. So I told this whole story yesterday.
Speaker 1: This is like old school, old fashioned hardcore deep in
Speaker 1: the paint, you know, radio war days. And I learned
Speaker 1: a lot from Neil, and I have to give him
Speaker 1: credit because I'm better as if I'm any good at
Speaker 1: Paul Radio, in part is because I would listen to
Speaker 1: Neil and I knew that my career was being threatened
Speaker 1: every day. Long story short. He initially went over to
Speaker 1: the news station and was going up against Russia twelve
Speaker 1: to three. And then one day, my first day I'm
Speaker 1: going on vacation. I'm driving a Hartsfield Airport and I
Speaker 1: turn on Neil and I listen to him. Tell me, Sean,
Speaker 1: I know you're listening to this program. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: how and how the hell does this man know I'm
Speaker 1: listening to his program and I was, and I listened
Speaker 1: the whole way and he's like, well, your phone's about
Speaker 1: to ring and it's gonna be slug and Slugo is
Speaker 1: going to tell you to come back and not go
Speaker 1: on vacation, because starting Monday morning, I was on nine
Speaker 1: to noon at eight forty five, he was going to
Speaker 1: get a fifteen minute jump on me. I'm going back
Speaker 1: to my old time slot and I'm taking my audience
Speaker 1: back with me, and I'm listening to this. I then
Speaker 1: arrive at Hartsfield all Slugo say I'm coming back. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to call me. I called him. He would
Speaker 1: not allow me to come back. I didn't have I
Speaker 1: had no power to fight him because I was still new,
Speaker 1: fresh to the market and it was the worst vacation
Speaker 1: of my life, worst week of my life. And that
Speaker 1: began a series of radio wars. And then one day
Speaker 1: I'm driving into work. It's six fifteen in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I tuned into Neil's station just to see what
Speaker 1: they're talking about.
Speaker 2: It's six fifteen.
Speaker 1: Not only was Neil there, he telegraphed his entire show,
Speaker 1: and he had read every newspaper, knew every news story,
Speaker 1: and I was just driving to work. I hadn't done
Speaker 1: any work yet. I was never ever late to work again.
Speaker 1: I was there at five o'clock every day, and I
Speaker 1: would tune in and he would telegraph his show every
Speaker 1: day at six fifteen. I'd take notes, and if he
Speaker 1: was going to be talking about a topic he didn't
Speaker 1: do many guests I did. I'd find the guest that
Speaker 1: he would be talking about at the beginning of his show,
Speaker 1: and you had a choice. You can hear the people directly,
Speaker 1: or you could listen to Neil talk about the people
Speaker 1: that were in my studio anyway. So it was kind
Speaker 1: of a fun radio story. The irony of all of
Speaker 1: this is we became really close friends. Even you know,
Speaker 1: I was only there four years, but he swears he
Speaker 1: ran me out of town to the Fox News channel.
Speaker 1: Kind of a joke. But we became really good friends.
Speaker 1: We'd even talk to each other in breaks. We had
Speaker 1: a very both were very competitive, but we had respect.
Speaker 1: I think we had respect for each other. I certainly
Speaker 1: respected him, and if I didn't learn that, I had
Speaker 1: to work harder. I don't think I'd be here today.
Speaker 1: And it's a pleasure to welcome back my dear friend,
Speaker 1: Neil Boorts. How are you, I'm fining what part of
Speaker 1: that story is not true?
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's all true. It's all true. I heard
Speaker 3: you were going.
Speaker 1: How did you know I was listening on my way
Speaker 1: on my first vacation ever since I had taken that
Speaker 1: job six months six months into that job.
Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, we were in Atlanta, and who
Speaker 3: wasn't listening to me?
Speaker 2: Actually, that's not true.
Speaker 1: If you go back and I have the history books,
Speaker 1: Arbitron used to do ratings in three month intervals.
Speaker 2: There were three books in a row.
Speaker 1: And I told this to Matt Towery yesterday, where between
Speaker 1: the two of us we had twenty five percent of
Speaker 1: the market in men twenty five point fifty four, which
Speaker 1: for those that don't understand ratings, that is a massive
Speaker 1: number in the key demographic, and we both had and
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible mathematically for it to work out this way.
Speaker 1: We had nine months in a row, we both had
Speaker 1: a twelve and a half share each.
Speaker 3: So but I think I think, actually it was higher
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 1: It could have been. You know, that's the number I remember.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I can go
Speaker 1: back and find those old books. But you did not
Speaker 1: know the story of that day that I tuned in
Speaker 1: and heard you at six fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 2: What time did you get to work every day? I
Speaker 2: never asked you that.
Speaker 3: Well, I usually got there about four or four thirty.
Speaker 1: In the morning, Okay, So I realized I'm never going
Speaker 1: to be late again. And the interesting thing was you
Speaker 1: had read every newspaper. You were fully prepared to do
Speaker 1: your show at six fifteen. What the heck did you
Speaker 1: do for the for the next two hours two and
Speaker 1: a half hours.
Speaker 3: I spent that time bothering other people at the radio station.
Speaker 1: Oh, I could tell stories. They're so bad, the stories
Speaker 1: about you, and especially about Monica Kaufman, that if I
Speaker 1: told them in this day and age, I know you
Speaker 1: dear friends with her by the way.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Monica and I get along just great. But
Speaker 3: you know, well I messed with you a good deal too,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you and everybody in the market. You couldn't
Speaker 1: stand the fact that I was younger and prettier than you.
Speaker 3: Well listen, who isn't I'm the radio at that radio station.
Speaker 3: You're mentioning on my ID card that I were around
Speaker 3: the neck. They didn't put a picture of me. They
Speaker 3: put a picture of Homer Simpson.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely, positively true. By the way, I have a
Speaker 1: special guest to say hello to you, the guy that
Speaker 1: hired me to replace you after you took the money
Speaker 1: and ran to the other stations. Slugo, Eric's Idella's with us, Slugo,
Speaker 1: why did you not let me return? When I called
Speaker 1: you from Hartsfield Airport and Neil was going to was
Speaker 1: moving from twelve to three back to his old time slot,
Speaker 1: I was furious at you.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm calling today to let you know you can
Speaker 4: go on vacation now, Okay.
Speaker 1: I really appreciated Slugo and you two, for a while,
Speaker 1: by the way, hated each other. I think I had
Speaker 1: to bridge that gap didn't I well, no, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: After I left, Neil, Yeah, can't you hear me?
Speaker 4: Yes, I can hear you.
Speaker 3: Okay, after I left, Slugo sent a picture of you
Speaker 3: hammering nails into my coffin since.
Speaker 1: I remember that one the final nail in your car.
Speaker 1: By the way, I did not approve of it. And
Speaker 1: there was one rating book and you had never been beaten,
Speaker 1: and you're never going to admit it. I beat you,
Speaker 1: and you did win one demographic like sixty five and older,
Speaker 1: and so Pluggo in his genius and other people that
Speaker 1: we work with at the time, decided to send you
Speaker 1: a gift package of like denture cream and depends and
Speaker 1: say congratulations, you won the sixty five plus demo.
Speaker 4: Actually, I think that was Nancy's idea.
Speaker 1: Probably I wasn't Nancy or your Slugo, No, it was
Speaker 1: probably Nancy's. Okay, we'll put it off on poor Nancy's intech.
Speaker 1: Now this may sound inside baseball, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of lessons to be learned here.
Speaker 2: Logo.
Speaker 1: Did I even tell you about the first day that
Speaker 1: I was listening to Neil at six fifteen with Scott
Speaker 1: Slade and I heard them and I It put panic
Speaker 1: in my heart and how prepared he was, and I
Speaker 1: realized I got to work harder.
Speaker 4: Man, who is the attorney you faced him on? Who
Speaker 4: is going to be coming into his.
Speaker 2: Show from the Oh no, well that's well.
Speaker 1: It was right after the OJ Simpson case, and Bob
Speaker 1: Shapiro to this day is still a dear friend of mine.
Speaker 1: I heard Neil telegraph that morning at six fifteen that
Speaker 1: he had Bob Shapiro on, and Neil rarely had guests
Speaker 1: on though. I looked at Eric Stegner, who still works
Speaker 1: with me, and I said, what the hell? Why does
Speaker 1: he have Neil Bob Shapiro? Why didn't we book him?
Speaker 1: And anyway, he said, you know what, I think, he's
Speaker 1: on ninety nine next, let me call over. He called over,
Speaker 1: He was free at nine o'clock. We got him before
Speaker 1: Neil did. And then when the hour was ending and
Speaker 1: he was supposed to go over to Neil show, I said,
Speaker 1: would you mind staying a little bit longer? You know
Speaker 1: what happened from there? When he finally got over to
Speaker 1: your place around eleven.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put him up.
Speaker 2: I mean we all.
Speaker 1: Became close, and we all remain close. Although port says,
Speaker 1: you never know where this guy is. He's got this
Speaker 1: big bus that he travels around in. I've tried to
Speaker 1: convince you numerous times to go back on the air
Speaker 1: full time. You won't listen to me. How many years
Speaker 1: were you on talk radio? How many years did you
Speaker 1: do talk radio?
Speaker 3: Forty seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, something unbelievable.
Speaker 3: We'll wait him out. In forty seven, it was thirty seven,
Speaker 3: thirty seven years.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now I think it would be better told by
Speaker 1: slug O. Slugo, do you want to tell the world
Speaker 1: how cold hearted Neil is and how he got his
Speaker 1: first radio job at Ring Radio.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go into that. That's Neil's story
Speaker 4: to tell, but I will tell you that I've always
Speaker 4: thought Neil have some of the best radio instincts of anybody.
Speaker 3: I've ever worked.
Speaker 1: That's why you You paid him a lot more money
Speaker 1: than you paid me. You got me for like third sheep.
Speaker 1: When you paid me and you hired me, you were
Speaker 1: the diamond.
Speaker 4: In the rough, you know, looks hoochie, an ambassador much
Speaker 4: like Moses. And we plucked you out of the water
Speaker 4: and we gave you life.
Speaker 1: Okay, I really can't complain, all right, Neil, tell everybody
Speaker 1: how you started in talk radio, because this is the
Speaker 1: coldest hearted story of all time, but it's actually brilliant.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, well it may be cold hearted,
Speaker 3: but somebody had to do it. I was a big
Speaker 3: fan of a talk show host on what they called
Speaker 3: at that time, Ring Radio, and I would go whenever
Speaker 3: he made a speech. I was there, we would go
Speaker 3: to lunch together. Then one time I'm sitting at home
Speaker 3: on Sunday and I hear on the news that evening
Speaker 3: that this particular talk show host, his name was herb Elfman,
Speaker 3: that he committed suicide. He shot himself dead right there,
Speaker 3: and so I said, well, I wonder who's going to
Speaker 3: do the show tomorrow. So I got a lawn chair
Speaker 3: and a thermos of coffee and I went and sat
Speaker 3: on the sidewalk outside the radio station waited. Everybody got there.
Speaker 3: The station was only on the air during daytime, and
Speaker 3: they said, what are you doing here? And I said, oh,
Speaker 3: you haven't heard HERB is not going to come in
Speaker 3: to date.
Speaker 1: And so you basically jumped on the guy's grave and
Speaker 1: you got hired. And thirty seven years later, you know,
Speaker 1: you were still a top rated host. And one of
Speaker 1: the most well known personalities in Atlanta radio history. And
Speaker 1: then you became nationally syndicated as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't jump on the grave. I dug him
Speaker 3: up and jumped on him.
Speaker 2: He did, come on, Slugo, that is cold. That is cold, cold, cold.
Speaker 4: It is It is Neil's story to tell, not mine.
Speaker 4: But it is cold, oh man.
Speaker 3: Also, so that's natural for me.
Speaker 2: You know we did.
Speaker 1: Other things to mess with you too, did you know?
Speaker 1: We used to feed you purposely stories so that you
Speaker 1: would talk about the same top every day. If there
Speaker 1: was a gun topic, a plane topic, what else? What
Speaker 1: are the stories did we always want Neil to talk
Speaker 1: about because the research showed that people got bored when
Speaker 1: he talked about is Slugo? There were a couple of
Speaker 1: other we found ways to get that information to you.
Speaker 1: Or we'd have somebody call in and set you off,
Speaker 1: and then you'd you'd go right down the predictable path.
Speaker 2: You know we did that.
Speaker 3: You also took some recordings of some uncomplimentary things I
Speaker 3: said about the owners of my new radio station, and
Speaker 3: you sent them that.
Speaker 2: You can blame Slugo for that. I had no role
Speaker 2: in that.
Speaker 3: You keep trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for those.
Speaker 1: I did not have any role in that part. Slugo,
Speaker 1: you have to defend me here.
Speaker 4: Well, I remember some of the acronyms for WSB that
Speaker 4: he developed.
Speaker 1: Like we suck and blither and all the way. I'm
Speaker 1: still on the station, so I gotta be nice here.
Speaker 1: But I think they'll find it amusing so.
Speaker 2: Boring that was, but at the time they were.
Speaker 1: Until you got there, and then Greg most Sherry, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, We'll pick it up a couple more minutes.
Speaker 1: On the other side, if you guys have nothing to do,
Speaker 1: you're both retired, so I assume you have nothing to do,
Speaker 1: and I mean that complimentary. More with Neil Boards, more
Speaker 1: of Eric's Sidell's slugo. On the other side, a little
Speaker 1: bit more of the radio war. Then with the phones.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine to four one shown is on number
Speaker 1: as we roll along, so we're doing old radio war stories.
Speaker 1: And when I'd only been a professional radio host for
Speaker 1: two years, I had started in what eighty seven, and
Speaker 1: I guess my first job was in nineteen ninety in Huntsville, Alabama.
Speaker 1: Then I'm Eric Sidell, who's with us sluggo we call him.
Speaker 1: Hired me in Atlanta, and I went up against this
Speaker 1: unbelievable giant in the market, Neil Borts, and I realized
Speaker 1: that if I didn't work hard, Neil Boorts was going
Speaker 1: to do to me what he did to so many
Speaker 1: others before me, and that's run them the hell out
Speaker 1: of town. And I was not going to let that happen,
Speaker 1: or at least fight my heart to do so. After
Speaker 1: about the first year and slogo, this is a story
Speaker 1: for you to tell, and it taught me something about research.
Speaker 1: And you did. You brought me in your office one
Speaker 1: day and you sat me down. Do you remember what
Speaker 1: you told me, because I remember what I told you.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, first of all, let me give this some perspective.
Speaker 4: Neil worked for a company that was doing research every
Speaker 4: five seconds in the market. They were constantly aware of
Speaker 4: what was going on in the market. You and I
Speaker 4: were working for a company that didn't have those pockets
Speaker 4: as deep. And we did our first major research about
Speaker 4: a year after you came to the radio station. And
Speaker 4: before that research came in, we had been telling you, Sean,
Speaker 4: this is not New York. You need to ease back
Speaker 4: on the callers. We're in the Deep South and you
Speaker 4: weren't listening.
Speaker 2: And by that, just think of perspective.
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to the likes of Bob Grant,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the great pioneers of talk radio,
Speaker 1: but also geniuses like Barry Farber and Barry Gray. But hey,
Speaker 1: get off my phone, use some bag, you low life,
Speaker 1: you dirt bag, Get off my phone.
Speaker 4: You know, that was not Farber's technique, but it certainly
Speaker 4: was Bob that was That.
Speaker 1: Was Bob Grant's for sure. Bob Grant, you know, eventually
Speaker 1: got fired in part because he was so controversial.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so you came in and are you talking
Speaker 4: about after the research came in or.
Speaker 1: After the research came in? You didn't let me know
Speaker 1: you did research. I figured out you did research, But
Speaker 1: you sat me down in your office. Nancy Zentag was
Speaker 1: in the room, and you leaned into me about this
Speaker 1: very issue that.
Speaker 2: You know, you grew up.
Speaker 1: You grew up with one type of talk radio that
Speaker 1: you listened to, and you now live in the South.
Speaker 1: And the bottom line was, people love my conservative positions.
Speaker 2: It was the beginning of the rise of New Kingridge.
Speaker 1: But they didn't like stylistically that I was harsh on callers,
Speaker 1: and you know that.
Speaker 4: You were perfect politically, you were perfect for our demographic,
Speaker 4: for our target, but you still had that edge of
Speaker 4: a New Yorker in you. And I think, and you
Speaker 4: said you've lost confidence in me, and I said, no, that's.
Speaker 2: What I said. Well, you do remember I did say that.
Speaker 1: I said in that meeting, I looked at you and
Speaker 1: I said, you lost confidence in me?
Speaker 4: No, And the fact is we had not, and if anything,
Speaker 4: we just wanted to help improve you, develop you more.
Speaker 4: And so the research which you really weren't supposed to
Speaker 4: see until you stole it from somebody's office.
Speaker 1: And I was curious, but didn't steal it. I borrowed it.
Speaker 1: There's a difference. I returned it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, that's not stealing, it's borrowing.
Speaker 2: I didn't even say, by the matter.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it never left Arnie Kotinsky's
Speaker 1: room because I read it, you know, one night overnight,
Speaker 1: and I didn't stop reading it till I read the
Speaker 1: very last page in a was very It was a
Speaker 1: thick book.
Speaker 4: Yes, what did you sit in his office and read it?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did.
Speaker 4: My god, you were squatting too, So you're bad anyway,
Speaker 4: you had seen the One of the things that that
Speaker 4: struck me really wrong was that the guy who analyzed
Speaker 4: the research said you should think about replacing Sean. There
Speaker 4: was no way.
Speaker 1: Weird words were You may want to rethink John Hannity
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well either way, you and I both I remember,
Speaker 4: okay and you. But you read the transcripts of what
Speaker 4: people said to death.
Speaker 2: The verbatims, the verbatims said.
Speaker 4: To them in the research, and that that rang a
Speaker 4: bell for you. You finally you No, that woke me up.
Speaker 2: That's that's what changed me. On a dime.
Speaker 1: I changed from that day moving forward. Now, what I
Speaker 1: learned is it called perceptual studies in radio. Neil, you've
Speaker 1: read a ton of research over the years, or at
Speaker 1: least they've told you about it. I'm sure you could
Speaker 1: care less. You are going to do what you were
Speaker 1: going to do. You were a legend. I was not
Speaker 1: in that market, so I had to work harder. And
Speaker 1: what I learned is the audience was dead on, honest,
Speaker 1: and the audience was right, and I needed to read
Speaker 1: it in black and white and let it absorb it
Speaker 1: and let it hit me in the face hard.
Speaker 4: And dating what we have been saying to you.
Speaker 1: It did, but you didn't. You weren't saying it in
Speaker 1: a way that just screamed at me. It screamed off
Speaker 1: the page. Love his politics. He needs to stop hanging
Speaker 1: up on people and telling them to shut up, right right.
Speaker 4: But you know, look, it was the same thing we
Speaker 4: were just telling you, maybe a little more graphically, but
Speaker 4: the fact is it was. It affirmed and validated what
Speaker 4: we have been saying to you. And you had to
Speaker 4: see that third party validation to really wake up.
Speaker 1: It was the audience that woke me up. Neil, did
Speaker 1: you ever read research? A lot of hosts can't handle it.
Speaker 3: Well. A couple of things, Sean. First of all, you
Speaker 3: you listened to Bob Grant and the others. I never
Speaker 3: listened to anybody else on talk radio. I did listen
Speaker 3: to you when we were head to head competing. Other
Speaker 3: than that, I was never a Limbaugh listener. You know,
Speaker 3: I didn't want them to affect the way I did
Speaker 3: my job, so I didn't walk to them.
Speaker 1: I put that as a feather in my cap. If
Speaker 1: I was in your head that much, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: You're the only one but didn't remember you and I
Speaker 3: would go to news breaks at the same time. We'd
Speaker 3: get on the phone and talk.
Speaker 1: We did, and you know, sometimes I would just wait
Speaker 1: for you to break before I'd take my break. And
Speaker 1: I've had my Eric Stanger monitoring when you went to
Speaker 1: a break.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't listen. We were having a great time. But now,
Speaker 3: what you haven't told, and I want you to tell
Speaker 3: this story too, is that when I moved full time
Speaker 3: down the Florida I had the best radio studio. You
Speaker 3: did your shop there. It was a radio studio.
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. And here's the beauty of it all.
Speaker 1: Neil and I became best friends in the while we
Speaker 1: were still competitors. I had deep respect for Neil Sluggo
Speaker 1: and I have remained friends ever since. I had to
Speaker 1: go to his house and say, is it okay if
Speaker 1: I take this opportunity in working Fox News. At that point,
Speaker 1: nobody knew what national cable news really was but for CNN,
Speaker 1: and Eric was very supportive and said, if this is
Speaker 1: what you want to do, I support you.
Speaker 2: You were great. Not everybody was great, but you were great.
Speaker 3: Oh. I was jealous, But then I.
Speaker 1: Know you were you, but you're full of crap because
Speaker 1: you went on the air and said I drove I
Speaker 1: drove Hannity out of town.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, look at the ratings at that point.
Speaker 1: You know, ratings at that point were fine. I was
Speaker 1: still kicking ass until you guys got the braves back,
Speaker 1: and then it started to hurt.
Speaker 3: Pearl white ass. No, you weren't.
Speaker 1: I was still doing well in the marketplace, has no doubt.
Speaker 1: I will tell you, I'm very grateful to both of
Speaker 1: you for very different reasons. Is and the fact that
Speaker 1: we've all been able to stay friends all these years.
Speaker 2: Is one of the little part of the story.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Greg most Sherry was sending out
Speaker 1: tapes of my show to stations around the country to
Speaker 1: get me job offers, to get me away from you.
Speaker 3: That's standard procedure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was standard procedure.
Speaker 4: Let me Sean, let me tell you a little story.
Speaker 4: The first time I ran into that technique, that tactic,
Speaker 4: I was working in Philadelphia at a CBS Radio station
Speaker 4: owned radio station in news and I got a call
Speaker 4: from a competing news director on another station who I've
Speaker 4: never met. I've never met, and he said I've given
Speaker 4: your name to a former boss of BUNE in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: He's looking for a news director. And I said, Paul,
Speaker 4: we've never met. Why would you do that? And he said,
Speaker 4: and this caught me by surprise, he said, I want
Speaker 4: your ass out of this money.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty blunt.
Speaker 1: I was shocked when when most Shecherry told me that,
Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked. I want to say one last
Speaker 1: thing now, this is the most interesting part about Neil
Speaker 1: to me, and wellgo tell me if I'm right or
Speaker 1: wrong here. Neil is so dynamic on air. And by
Speaker 1: the way, when you had Belinda and Royal, God rest
Speaker 1: his soul. He was such a nice guy and I
Speaker 1: don't think there was a better chemistry. Although Linda's close,
Speaker 1: he's crushing.
Speaker 2: It for us.
Speaker 1: And when you had that team around you and your
Speaker 1: ability to use that team to enhance the show and
Speaker 1: create a family atmosphere that everybody wanted to be a
Speaker 1: part of, it was very special for radio.
Speaker 2: In my mind, well, it.
Speaker 3: Just came natural to all of us, It really did.
Speaker 3: Belinda and I are still very close. I can tell
Speaker 3: you that her dog had an acl surgery this morning.
Speaker 3: That's how close we are.
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, that was so.
Speaker 3: I asked her how many acls does the dog have?
Speaker 3: And she didn't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either, Slugo, you want to give it
Speaker 2: a shot. You love dogs, Oh I do.
Speaker 4: I do. We've been since nineteen ninety nine, we've been
Speaker 4: rescuing Golden retrievers and they're incredible, just incredible.
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say to both of you,
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful to both of you.
Speaker 1: A sluggo. You took a chance on me, you were
Speaker 1: patient with me. I didn't know what I didn't know
Speaker 1: at the time. I got a big, big wake up call,
Speaker 1: and ever since that day, I will periodically make sure
Speaker 1: that I read the audience comments about me, not online,
Speaker 1: because online is not a real world. You have people
Speaker 1: naked in their parents' basement, anonymous keyboard warriors. They don't
Speaker 1: concern me. But research projects look for real listeners. They
Speaker 1: give you real, honest feedback, and if you listen to it,
Speaker 1: it will make you better at what you do. When
Speaker 1: you go up again, somebody is talented and gifted as
Speaker 1: Neil and I think in the history of talk radio,
Speaker 1: one of the best talk show hosts ever. It's either
Speaker 1: you get better or You're done. It's that simple. You
Speaker 1: will not survive.
Speaker 3: Well, Sean, I just thank God every day that I
Speaker 3: didn't have to make a living being a lawyer.
Speaker 2: You remember what you said to me after nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: What Remember a conversation we had and you had always said,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the air for kicks and giggles.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't take myself seriously. None of this is serious.
Speaker 1: And you said, hannay, you believe all this and you're
Speaker 1: more serious than I am. And I said, you're right.
Speaker 1: And then after nine to eleven, do you you don't
Speaker 1: remember what you said to me? I don't you said
Speaker 1: to me you were right, I was wrong, and you
Speaker 1: weren't saying it in a way that was negative at all.
Speaker 1: He was saying, this is real, this is serious, and
Speaker 1: I am I am looking at my job entirely differently.
Speaker 3: Now. Well, I mean that woke up a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I've always stopped at A talk show host is first
Speaker 3: and foremost an entertainer, and we're not there to change
Speaker 3: the world. But then later on, after nine to eleven
Speaker 3: and the various ethnic invasions we've had of this country Minnesota,
Speaker 3: it occurs to me that there's just a lot more
Speaker 3: to it than fun and games. There's very important information
Speaker 3: to be to be sent to the public out there.
Speaker 3: Just try to do it in an entertaining way to
Speaker 3: keep them listening and hopefully make a difference along the line.
Speaker 3: You know, now, the difference I want to make is
Speaker 3: a water level in the hot tub when I'm sitting
Speaker 3: in it at an evening.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I will tell you this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: end with this. If it wasn't for the for talk radio,
Speaker 1: and then of course Rush took it to a whole
Speaker 1: new level, and we're all grateful to him for that,
Speaker 1: and we all miss him dearly. If it wasn't for
Speaker 1: talk radio, we wouldn't have had an alternative point of
Speaker 1: view in this country. If it wasn't for Fox News,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have an alternative point of view in this country.
Speaker 1: The fact that I've been blessed to do both in
Speaker 1: my life and career and have people like you make
Speaker 1: me better in different ways. I'm just grateful to both
Speaker 1: of you. You're both very good men. Dear friends. Bill
Speaker 1: Dunovan in Alabama also gave me a shot. They hired
Speaker 1: me over the phone there and I had no experience
Speaker 1: doing radio full time. I got lucky he hired me.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say thanks to both of you.
Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of fun to rehash some crazy
Speaker 1: radio days.
Speaker 2: Man, they were.
Speaker 4: Crazy, Yeah, Sean, they were fun days too.
Speaker 3: The World War because you fell off that roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fell off the roof. Neil hit the ground
Speaker 1: and woke up a conservative. It was all good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it, all right. God bless you both. You're
Speaker 1: both amazing people and dear friends. Neil Boortz, Eric's Lugo Sidel,
Speaker 1: Thank you both. I wrap things up to today. Let
Speaker 1: not your heartpy troubled. Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern on the
Speaker 1: Fox News Channel, Part two. It's really interesting my interview,
Speaker 1: would you ad Van's the vice president. Also, while in DC,
Speaker 1: I spend time with RFK Junior and doctor memon Oz
Speaker 1: will get that in. We have a lot on the
Speaker 1: nuttiness and insanity of the radical left. They are cracking
Speaker 1: up and it's getting worse by the day. And the
Speaker 1: news you'll never get from the mainstream media. Mob nine
Speaker 1: Eastern tonight, Hannity Fox will see them back here tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Thank you for making this show possible