1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Alright, news round up in Information Oval at hour. Here's 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: a toll free telephone number if you want to be 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: a part of the program. It say eight hundred and 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: ninety four to one, Sean if you want to join us. So, 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: we had Matt Towery joining us in Washington, d C. 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Yesterday and by the way, we have part two of 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: my interview with JD. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Vance. 9 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: We've gotten so much, so much feedback on it. Linda, 10 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: did you see all the social media pick up on it? 11 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: It was massive? 12 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people were very excited about that segment and 13 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Pam Bondi. 14 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: We also had and I spend time with RFK Junior 15 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: and doctor Oz and they'll join us tonight. 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Really really productive day. 17 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: I did other things that I can't talk about yet, 18 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: and as soon as I can, I will and important things. 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: And I'm actually headed back to d C. I have 20 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: another trip planned for reasons that I can't disclose either. Boy, 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm really sharing a lot with the audience today. But anyway, 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: So we had our friend Matt Towery in studio and 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I I was a local radio host in Huntsville, Alabama, 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: and I got a call one day from Eric Sidell, 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: better known as Slugo on this program. Still friends with 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: him to this day, still friends with the owner of 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: the radio station at the time when I worked in Huntsville. 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm friends with everybody I've 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: ever worked for. It's crazy and anyway, and I go 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I auditioned for two days and I realized 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: why I am auditioning because the star radio host in 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the market at the time for somewhat thirty years was 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Neil Bortz, and he 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: had jump ship from Sidell station, the news Monster we 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: called it back in the day, to what he referred 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: to affectionately as the ex wife, to another station, and 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I got hired over after the two day audition. Little 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: did I know I was going up against a monster 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: in the market, but it was an originally not planned 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: to be that. So I told this whole story yesterday. 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: This is like old school, old fashioned hardcore deep in 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the paint, you know, radio war days. And I learned 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: a lot from Neil, and I have to give him 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: credit because I'm better as if I'm any good at 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Paul Radio, in part is because I would listen to 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Neil and I knew that my career was being threatened 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: every day. Long story short. He initially went over to 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: the news station and was going up against Russia twelve 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: to three. And then one day, my first day I'm 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: going on vacation. I'm driving a Hartsfield Airport and I 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: turn on Neil and I listen to him. Tell me, Sean, 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: I know you're listening to this program. And I'm like, 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: how and how the hell does this man know I'm 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: listening to his program and I was, and I listened 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: the whole way and he's like, well, your phone's about 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: to ring and it's gonna be slug and Slugo is 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: going to tell you to come back and not go 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: on vacation, because starting Monday morning, I was on nine 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to noon at eight forty five, he was going to 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: get a fifteen minute jump on me. I'm going back 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: to my old time slot and I'm taking my audience 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: back with me, and I'm listening to this. I then 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: arrive at Hartsfield all Slugo say I'm coming back. He 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: didn't have to call me. I called him. He would 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: not allow me to come back. I didn't have I 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: had no power to fight him because I was still new, 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: fresh to the market and it was the worst vacation 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: of my life, worst week of my life. And that 69 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: began a series of radio wars. And then one day 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm driving into work. It's six fifteen in the morning, 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: and I tuned into Neil's station just to see what 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: they're talking about. 73 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: It's six fifteen. 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Not only was Neil there, he telegraphed his entire show, 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: and he had read every newspaper, knew every news story, 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: and I was just driving to work. I hadn't done 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: any work yet. I was never ever late to work again. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I was there at five o'clock every day, and I 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: would tune in and he would telegraph his show every 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: day at six fifteen. I'd take notes, and if he 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: was going to be talking about a topic he didn't 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: do many guests I did. I'd find the guest that 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: he would be talking about at the beginning of his show, 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: and you had a choice. You can hear the people directly, 85 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: or you could listen to Neil talk about the people 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: that were in my studio anyway. So it was kind 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: of a fun radio story. The irony of all of 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: this is we became really close friends. Even you know, 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: I was only there four years, but he swears he 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: ran me out of town to the Fox News channel. 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Kind of a joke. But we became really good friends. 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: We'd even talk to each other in breaks. We had 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: a very both were very competitive, but we had respect. 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I think we had respect for each other. I certainly 95 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: respected him, and if I didn't learn that, I had 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: to work harder. I don't think I'd be here today. 97 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: And it's a pleasure to welcome back my dear friend, 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Neil Boorts. How are you, I'm fining what part of 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: that story is not true? 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Well, no, it's all true. It's all true. I heard 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: you were going. 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: How did you know I was listening on my way 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: on my first vacation ever since I had taken that 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: job six months six months into that job. 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, we were in Atlanta, and who 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: wasn't listening to me? 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Actually, that's not true. 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: If you go back and I have the history books, 109 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Arbitron used to do ratings in three month intervals. 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: There were three books in a row. 111 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: And I told this to Matt Towery yesterday, where between 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: the two of us we had twenty five percent of 113 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the market in men twenty five point fifty four, which 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: for those that don't understand ratings, that is a massive 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: number in the key demographic, and we both had and 116 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible mathematically for it to work out this way. 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: We had nine months in a row, we both had 118 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a twelve and a half share each. 119 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: So but I think I think, actually it was higher 120 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: than that. 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: It could have been. You know, that's the number I remember. 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I can go 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: back and find those old books. But you did not 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: know the story of that day that I tuned in 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: and heard you at six fifteen in the morning. 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: What time did you get to work every day? I 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: never asked you that. 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, I usually got there about four or four thirty. 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: In the morning, Okay, So I realized I'm never going 130 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: to be late again. And the interesting thing was you 131 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: had read every newspaper. You were fully prepared to do 132 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: your show at six fifteen. What the heck did you 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: do for the for the next two hours two and 134 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: a half hours. 135 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: I spent that time bothering other people at the radio station. 136 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I could tell stories. They're so bad, the stories 137 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: about you, and especially about Monica Kaufman, that if I 138 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: told them in this day and age, I know you 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: dear friends with her by the way. 140 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Monica and I get along just great. But 141 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: you know, well I messed with you a good deal too, 142 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: you know. 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you and everybody in the market. You couldn't 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: stand the fact that I was younger and prettier than you. 145 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 3: Well listen, who isn't I'm the radio at that radio station. 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: You're mentioning on my ID card that I were around 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: the neck. They didn't put a picture of me. They 148 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: put a picture of Homer Simpson. 149 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: That's absolutely, positively true. By the way, I have a 150 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: special guest to say hello to you, the guy that 151 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: hired me to replace you after you took the money 152 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: and ran to the other stations. Slugo, Eric's Idella's with us, Slugo, 153 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: why did you not let me return? When I called 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: you from Hartsfield Airport and Neil was going to was 155 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: moving from twelve to three back to his old time slot, 156 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: I was furious at you. 157 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, I'm calling today to let you know you can 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: go on vacation now, Okay. 159 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I really appreciated Slugo and you two, for a while, 160 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: by the way, hated each other. I think I had 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to bridge that gap didn't I well, no, wait a minute. 162 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: After I left, Neil, Yeah, can't you hear me? 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I can hear you. 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: Okay, after I left, Slugo sent a picture of you 165 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: hammering nails into my coffin since. 166 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I remember that one the final nail in your car. 167 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I did not approve of it. And 168 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: there was one rating book and you had never been beaten, 169 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: and you're never going to admit it. I beat you, 170 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and you did win one demographic like sixty five and older, 171 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: and so Pluggo in his genius and other people that 172 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: we work with at the time, decided to send you 173 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: a gift package of like denture cream and depends and 174 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: say congratulations, you won the sixty five plus demo. 175 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: Actually, I think that was Nancy's idea. 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Probably I wasn't Nancy or your Slugo, No, it was 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: probably Nancy's. Okay, we'll put it off on poor Nancy's intech. 178 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: Now this may sound inside baseball, but there's a lot 179 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: of lessons to be learned here. 180 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Logo. 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Did I even tell you about the first day that 182 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: I was listening to Neil at six fifteen with Scott 183 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Slade and I heard them and I It put panic 184 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: in my heart and how prepared he was, and I 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: realized I got to work harder. 186 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: Man, who is the attorney you faced him on? Who 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: is going to be coming into his. 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: Show from the Oh no, well that's well. 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: It was right after the OJ Simpson case, and Bob 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Shapiro to this day is still a dear friend of mine. 191 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: I heard Neil telegraph that morning at six fifteen that 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: he had Bob Shapiro on, and Neil rarely had guests 193 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: on though. I looked at Eric Stegner, who still works 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: with me, and I said, what the hell? Why does 195 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: he have Neil Bob Shapiro? Why didn't we book him? 196 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: And anyway, he said, you know what, I think, he's 197 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: on ninety nine next, let me call over. He called over, 198 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: He was free at nine o'clock. We got him before 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Neil did. And then when the hour was ending and 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: he was supposed to go over to Neil show, I said, 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: would you mind staying a little bit longer? You know 202 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: what happened from there? When he finally got over to 203 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: your place around eleven. 204 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't put him up. 205 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean we all. 206 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Became close, and we all remain close. Although port says, 207 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you never know where this guy is. He's got this 208 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: big bus that he travels around in. I've tried to 209 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: convince you numerous times to go back on the air 210 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: full time. You won't listen to me. How many years 211 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: were you on talk radio? How many years did you 212 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: do talk radio? 213 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: Forty seven? 214 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, something unbelievable. 215 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: We'll wait him out. In forty seven, it was thirty seven, 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: thirty seven years. 217 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Okay, Now I think it would be better told by 218 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: slug O. Slugo, do you want to tell the world 219 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: how cold hearted Neil is and how he got his 220 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: first radio job at Ring Radio. 221 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going to go into that. That's Neil's story 222 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: to tell, but I will tell you that I've always 223 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: thought Neil have some of the best radio instincts of anybody. 224 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: I've ever worked. 225 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: That's why you You paid him a lot more money 226 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: than you paid me. You got me for like third sheep. 227 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: When you paid me and you hired me, you were 228 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: the diamond. 229 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: In the rough, you know, looks hoochie, an ambassador much 230 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: like Moses. And we plucked you out of the water 231 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 4: and we gave you life. 232 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I really can't complain, all right, Neil, tell everybody 233 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: how you started in talk radio, because this is the 234 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: coldest hearted story of all time, but it's actually brilliant. 235 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: On the other hand, well it may be cold hearted, 236 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: but somebody had to do it. I was a big 237 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: fan of a talk show host on what they called 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: at that time, Ring Radio, and I would go whenever 239 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: he made a speech. I was there, we would go 240 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: to lunch together. Then one time I'm sitting at home 241 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: on Sunday and I hear on the news that evening 242 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: that this particular talk show host, his name was herb Elfman, 243 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: that he committed suicide. He shot himself dead right there, 244 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: and so I said, well, I wonder who's going to 245 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: do the show tomorrow. So I got a lawn chair 246 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: and a thermos of coffee and I went and sat 247 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: on the sidewalk outside the radio station waited. Everybody got there. 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: The station was only on the air during daytime, and 249 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: they said, what are you doing here? And I said, oh, 250 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: you haven't heard HERB is not going to come in 251 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 3: to date. 252 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: And so you basically jumped on the guy's grave and 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: you got hired. And thirty seven years later, you know, 254 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: you were still a top rated host. And one of 255 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the most well known personalities in Atlanta radio history. And 256 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: then you became nationally syndicated as well. 257 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't jump on the grave. I dug him 258 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: up and jumped on him. 259 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: He did, come on, Slugo, that is cold. That is cold, cold, cold. 260 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: It is It is Neil's story to tell, not mine. 261 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: But it is cold, oh man. 262 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: Also, so that's natural for me. 263 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: You know we did. 264 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Other things to mess with you too, did you know? 265 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: We used to feed you purposely stories so that you 266 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: would talk about the same top every day. If there 267 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: was a gun topic, a plane topic, what else? What 268 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: are the stories did we always want Neil to talk 269 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: about because the research showed that people got bored when 270 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: he talked about is Slugo? There were a couple of 271 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: other we found ways to get that information to you. 272 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Or we'd have somebody call in and set you off, 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: and then you'd you'd go right down the predictable path. 274 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: You know we did that. 275 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: You also took some recordings of some uncomplimentary things I 276 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: said about the owners of my new radio station, and 277 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: you sent them that. 278 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: You can blame Slugo for that. I had no role 279 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: in that. 280 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: You keep trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for those. 281 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: I did not have any role in that part. Slugo, 282 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: you have to defend me here. 283 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: Well, I remember some of the acronyms for WSB that 284 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: he developed. 285 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: Like we suck and blither and all the way. I'm 286 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: still on the station, so I gotta be nice here. 287 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: But I think they'll find it amusing so. 288 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: Boring that was, but at the time they were. 289 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Until you got there, and then Greg most Sherry, I'll 290 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: tell you what, We'll pick it up a couple more minutes. 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: On the other side, if you guys have nothing to do, 292 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: you're both retired, so I assume you have nothing to do, 293 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: and I mean that complimentary. More with Neil Boards, more 294 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: of Eric's Sidell's slugo. On the other side, a little 295 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: bit more of the radio war. Then with the phones. 296 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine to four one shown is on number 297 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: as we roll along, so we're doing old radio war stories. 298 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: And when I'd only been a professional radio host for 299 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: two years, I had started in what eighty seven, and 300 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I guess my first job was in nineteen ninety in Huntsville, Alabama. 301 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Then I'm Eric Sidell, who's with us sluggo we call him. 302 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Hired me in Atlanta, and I went up against this 303 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: unbelievable giant in the market, Neil Borts, and I realized 304 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that if I didn't work hard, Neil Boorts was going 305 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: to do to me what he did to so many 306 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: others before me, and that's run them the hell out 307 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: of town. And I was not going to let that happen, 308 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: or at least fight my heart to do so. After 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: about the first year and slogo, this is a story 310 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: for you to tell, and it taught me something about research. 311 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: And you did. You brought me in your office one 312 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: day and you sat me down. Do you remember what 313 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: you told me, because I remember what I told you. 314 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: Well, okay, first of all, let me give this some perspective. 315 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: Neil worked for a company that was doing research every 316 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: five seconds in the market. They were constantly aware of 317 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: what was going on in the market. You and I 318 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: were working for a company that didn't have those pockets 319 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: as deep. And we did our first major research about 320 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: a year after you came to the radio station. And 321 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: before that research came in, we had been telling you, Sean, 322 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: this is not New York. You need to ease back 323 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: on the callers. We're in the Deep South and you 324 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: weren't listening. 325 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: And by that, just think of perspective. 326 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to the likes of Bob Grant, 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, one of the great pioneers of talk radio, 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: but also geniuses like Barry Farber and Barry Gray. But hey, 329 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: get off my phone, use some bag, you low life, 330 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: you dirt bag, Get off my phone. 331 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, that was not Farber's technique, but it certainly 332 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: was Bob that was That. 333 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Was Bob Grant's for sure. Bob Grant, you know, eventually 334 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: got fired in part because he was so controversial. 335 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: But anyway, so you came in and are you talking 336 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: about after the research came in or. 337 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: After the research came in? You didn't let me know 338 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: you did research. I figured out you did research, But 339 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you sat me down in your office. Nancy Zentag was 340 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: in the room, and you leaned into me about this 341 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: very issue that. 342 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: You know, you grew up. 343 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: You grew up with one type of talk radio that 344 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: you listened to, and you now live in the South. 345 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: And the bottom line was, people love my conservative positions. 346 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: It was the beginning of the rise of New Kingridge. 347 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: But they didn't like stylistically that I was harsh on callers, 348 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and you know that. 349 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: You were perfect politically, you were perfect for our demographic, 350 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: for our target, but you still had that edge of 351 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: a New Yorker in you. And I think, and you 352 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: said you've lost confidence in me, and I said, no, that's. 353 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: What I said. Well, you do remember I did say that. 354 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I said in that meeting, I looked at you and 355 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: I said, you lost confidence in me? 356 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: No, And the fact is we had not, and if anything, 357 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: we just wanted to help improve you, develop you more. 358 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: And so the research which you really weren't supposed to 359 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: see until you stole it from somebody's office. 360 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: And I was curious, but didn't steal it. I borrowed it. 361 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: There's a difference. I returned it. 362 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, that's not stealing, it's borrowing. 363 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even say, by the matter. 364 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it never left Arnie Kotinsky's 365 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: room because I read it, you know, one night overnight, 366 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and I didn't stop reading it till I read the 367 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: very last page in a was very It was a 368 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: thick book. 369 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 4: Yes, what did you sit in his office and read it? 370 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: Yes? I did. 371 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: My god, you were squatting too, So you're bad anyway, 372 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: you had seen the One of the things that that 373 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 4: struck me really wrong was that the guy who analyzed 374 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: the research said you should think about replacing Sean. There 375 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: was no way. 376 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: Weird words were You may want to rethink John Hannity 377 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: at some point. 378 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well either way, you and I both I remember, 379 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 4: okay and you. But you read the transcripts of what 380 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: people said to death. 381 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: The verbatims, the verbatims said. 382 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: To them in the research, and that that rang a 383 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: bell for you. You finally you No, that woke me up. 384 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: That's that's what changed me. On a dime. 385 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: I changed from that day moving forward. Now, what I 386 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: learned is it called perceptual studies in radio. Neil, you've 387 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: read a ton of research over the years, or at 388 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: least they've told you about it. I'm sure you could 389 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: care less. You are going to do what you were 390 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: going to do. You were a legend. I was not 391 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: in that market, so I had to work harder. And 392 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: what I learned is the audience was dead on, honest, 393 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: and the audience was right, and I needed to read 394 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: it in black and white and let it absorb it 395 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: and let it hit me in the face hard. 396 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 4: And dating what we have been saying to you. 397 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: It did, but you didn't. You weren't saying it in 398 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: a way that just screamed at me. It screamed off 399 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the page. Love his politics. He needs to stop hanging 400 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: up on people and telling them to shut up, right right. 401 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 4: But you know, look, it was the same thing we 402 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: were just telling you, maybe a little more graphically, but 403 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: the fact is it was. It affirmed and validated what 404 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: we have been saying to you. And you had to 405 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: see that third party validation to really wake up. 406 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: It was the audience that woke me up. Neil, did 407 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: you ever read research? A lot of hosts can't handle it. 408 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: Well. A couple of things, Sean. First of all, you 409 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: you listened to Bob Grant and the others. I never 410 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: listened to anybody else on talk radio. I did listen 411 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: to you when we were head to head competing. Other 412 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: than that, I was never a Limbaugh listener. You know, 413 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: I didn't want them to affect the way I did 414 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: my job, so I didn't walk to them. 415 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: I put that as a feather in my cap. If 416 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: I was in your head that much, that's a good thing. 417 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: You're the only one but didn't remember you and I 418 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: would go to news breaks at the same time. We'd 419 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: get on the phone and talk. 420 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: We did, and you know, sometimes I would just wait 421 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: for you to break before I'd take my break. And 422 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I've had my Eric Stanger monitoring when you went to 423 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: a break. 424 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't listen. We were having a great time. But now, 425 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: what you haven't told, and I want you to tell 426 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: this story too, is that when I moved full time 427 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: down the Florida I had the best radio studio. You 428 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: did your shop there. It was a radio studio. 429 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. And here's the beauty of it all. 430 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: Neil and I became best friends in the while we 431 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: were still competitors. I had deep respect for Neil Sluggo 432 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: and I have remained friends ever since. I had to 433 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: go to his house and say, is it okay if 434 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: I take this opportunity in working Fox News. At that point, 435 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: nobody knew what national cable news really was but for CNN, 436 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and Eric was very supportive and said, if this is 437 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: what you want to do, I support you. 438 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: You were great. Not everybody was great, but you were great. 439 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh. I was jealous, But then I. 440 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Know you were you, but you're full of crap because 441 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: you went on the air and said I drove I 442 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: drove Hannity out of town. 443 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, look at the ratings at that point. 444 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: You know, ratings at that point were fine. I was 445 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: still kicking ass until you guys got the braves back, 446 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: and then it started to hurt. 447 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: Pearl white ass. No, you weren't. 448 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: I was still doing well in the marketplace, has no doubt. 449 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: I will tell you, I'm very grateful to both of 450 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: you for very different reasons. Is and the fact that 451 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: we've all been able to stay friends all these years. 452 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: Is one of the little part of the story. 453 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: Did you know that Greg most Sherry was sending out 454 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: tapes of my show to stations around the country to 455 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: get me job offers, to get me away from you. 456 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: That's standard procedure. 457 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was standard procedure. 458 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: Let me Sean, let me tell you a little story. 459 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: The first time I ran into that technique, that tactic, 460 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: I was working in Philadelphia at a CBS Radio station 461 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: owned radio station in news and I got a call 462 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: from a competing news director on another station who I've 463 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: never met. I've never met, and he said I've given 464 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: your name to a former boss of BUNE in Atlanta. 465 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: He's looking for a news director. And I said, Paul, 466 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 4: we've never met. Why would you do that? And he said, 467 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 4: and this caught me by surprise, he said, I want 468 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: your ass out of this money. 469 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty blunt. 470 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: I was shocked when when most Shecherry told me that, 471 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked. I want to say one last 472 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: thing now, this is the most interesting part about Neil 473 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: to me, and wellgo tell me if I'm right or 474 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: wrong here. Neil is so dynamic on air. And by 475 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: the way, when you had Belinda and Royal, God rest 476 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: his soul. He was such a nice guy and I 477 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: don't think there was a better chemistry. Although Linda's close, 478 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: he's crushing. 479 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: It for us. 480 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: And when you had that team around you and your 481 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: ability to use that team to enhance the show and 482 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: create a family atmosphere that everybody wanted to be a 483 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: part of, it was very special for radio. 484 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: In my mind, well, it. 485 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: Just came natural to all of us, It really did. 486 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: Belinda and I are still very close. I can tell 487 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: you that her dog had an acl surgery this morning. 488 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: That's how close we are. 489 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, that was so. 490 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: I asked her how many acls does the dog have? 491 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: And she didn't know. 492 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know either, Slugo, you want to give it 493 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: a shot. You love dogs, Oh I do. 494 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: I do. We've been since nineteen ninety nine, we've been 495 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: rescuing Golden retrievers and they're incredible, just incredible. 496 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say to both of you, 497 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm very grateful to both of you. 498 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: A sluggo. You took a chance on me, you were 499 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: patient with me. I didn't know what I didn't know 500 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: at the time. I got a big, big wake up call, 501 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: and ever since that day, I will periodically make sure 502 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: that I read the audience comments about me, not online, 503 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: because online is not a real world. You have people 504 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: naked in their parents' basement, anonymous keyboard warriors. They don't 505 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: concern me. But research projects look for real listeners. They 506 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: give you real, honest feedback, and if you listen to it, 507 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: it will make you better at what you do. When 508 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: you go up again, somebody is talented and gifted as 509 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Neil and I think in the history of talk radio, 510 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: one of the best talk show hosts ever. It's either 511 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: you get better or You're done. It's that simple. You 512 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: will not survive. 513 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: Well, Sean, I just thank God every day that I 514 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: didn't have to make a living being a lawyer. 515 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: You remember what you said to me after nine to eleven? 516 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: What Remember a conversation we had and you had always said, 517 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the air for kicks and giggles. 518 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: I'm not. 519 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't take myself seriously. None of this is serious. 520 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: And you said, hannay, you believe all this and you're 521 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: more serious than I am. And I said, you're right. 522 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: And then after nine to eleven, do you you don't 523 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: remember what you said to me? I don't you said 524 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: to me you were right, I was wrong, and you 525 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: weren't saying it in a way that was negative at all. 526 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: He was saying, this is real, this is serious, and 527 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: I am I am looking at my job entirely differently. 528 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: Now. Well, I mean that woke up a lot of people. 529 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 3: I've always stopped at A talk show host is first 530 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: and foremost an entertainer, and we're not there to change 531 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: the world. But then later on, after nine to eleven 532 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: and the various ethnic invasions we've had of this country Minnesota, 533 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: it occurs to me that there's just a lot more 534 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: to it than fun and games. There's very important information 535 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: to be to be sent to the public out there. 536 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: Just try to do it in an entertaining way to 537 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: keep them listening and hopefully make a difference along the line. 538 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: You know, now, the difference I want to make is 539 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: a water level in the hot tub when I'm sitting 540 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: in it at an evening. 541 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I will tell you this. I'm gonna 542 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: end with this. If it wasn't for the for talk radio, 543 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: and then of course Rush took it to a whole 544 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: new level, and we're all grateful to him for that, 545 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: and we all miss him dearly. If it wasn't for 546 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: talk radio, we wouldn't have had an alternative point of 547 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: view in this country. If it wasn't for Fox News, 548 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have an alternative point of view in this country. 549 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: The fact that I've been blessed to do both in 550 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: my life and career and have people like you make 551 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: me better in different ways. I'm just grateful to both 552 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: of you. You're both very good men. Dear friends. Bill 553 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Dunovan in Alabama also gave me a shot. They hired 554 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: me over the phone there and I had no experience 555 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: doing radio full time. I got lucky he hired me. 556 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: So I just want to say thanks to both of you. 557 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of fun to rehash some crazy 558 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: radio days. 559 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: Man, they were. 560 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 4: Crazy, Yeah, Sean, they were fun days too. 561 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: The World War because you fell off that roof. 562 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I fell off the roof. Neil hit the ground 563 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: and woke up a conservative. It was all good, Yeah, 564 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: I know it, all right. God bless you both. You're 565 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: both amazing people and dear friends. Neil Boortz, Eric's Lugo Sidel, 566 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: Thank you both. I wrap things up to today. Let 567 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: not your heartpy troubled. Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern on the 568 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: Fox News Channel, Part two. It's really interesting my interview, 569 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: would you ad Van's the vice president. Also, while in DC, 570 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I spend time with RFK Junior and doctor memon Oz 571 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: will get that in. We have a lot on the 572 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: nuttiness and insanity of the radical left. They are cracking 573 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: up and it's getting worse by the day. And the 574 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: news you'll never get from the mainstream media. Mob nine 575 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: Eastern tonight, Hannity Fox will see them back here tomorrow. 576 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for making this show possible