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Speaker 1: show for over a year. I think they registered this

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Speaker 1: past fall that that's just straight up propaganda network that's

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Speaker 1: been operating for a long time. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: see it, and Adam Schiff went on it, other senior

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Speaker 1: government officials went on it. Now, so yeah, Russia is

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Speaker 1: trying to influence us in a lot of ways, and

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Speaker 1: Russian trolls and sock puppets, which is what people refer

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Speaker 1: to fake accounts that are um, you know that that

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Speaker 1: pretend to be one thing, they're actually another. At least

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Speaker 1: that's what they call them on Facebook. I think they

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Speaker 1: call them that on Twitter. Two, they're gonna be making

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Speaker 1: more of those, and and their goal, from the best

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Speaker 1: analysis I've read of the Russian attempts to involve themselves

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Speaker 1: in our elections. Everything else is just to create chaos

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Speaker 1: and distrust in the system, which is really the Russian

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Speaker 1: version of extending a solitary digit from the hand to

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Speaker 1: the United States electoral process. That's what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: They are they are hoping to just make things difficult,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting that that gets kind of

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Speaker 1: pushed aside and the narratives there's, oh, they're just trying

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Speaker 1: to help Trump, right because of all the Russia collusion

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Speaker 1: nonsense that we've heard. But we're hearing these stories about

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Speaker 1: how they're gonna get involved in midterm elections. CNN and

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Speaker 1: others were even taking it further today. It's actually on

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Speaker 1: the screen right now breaking News. Intel chiefs say Trump

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Speaker 1: has not specifically directed them to confront Russian meddling. Now,

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Speaker 1: for the CNN audience, they see they're like, oh, see,

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Speaker 1: Trump is basically a puppet off the Kremlin. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's not specifically directing them to they get all worked

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Speaker 1: off about this, right And no, no, note that not specifically,

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Speaker 1: so maybe he said some stuff about it. But I

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Speaker 1: want to take this a little further though. I wanna

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Speaker 1: work on this for just a moment here. What the

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Speaker 1: heck are we supposed to do about the kind of

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Speaker 1: meddling in the elections that the Russians are either actively

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Speaker 1: engaged in now or will be engaged in the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna block off the internet? Are we gonna

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Speaker 1: we already have sanctions on Russia, although I know there's

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Speaker 1: recently been some sanctions that were not enforcing. But the

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Speaker 1: point is, you know, we tried that didn't do anything,

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Speaker 1: So what's the what's the sola Russia? By the way,

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Speaker 1: sanctions on Russia this would be like having sanctions on China.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It does not have the intended effect. It's

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Speaker 1: too large and too powerful and important a country for

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Speaker 1: us to be able to just easily economically isolated and

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Speaker 1: bend it to our will. I would note that much smaller,

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Speaker 1: much less powerful and important countries have defied sanctions for

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Speaker 1: a long time. The history of sanctions working not so good,

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Speaker 1: not a so good. So we're being told that they're

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Speaker 1: not specifically that that Trump has not specifically directed them

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Speaker 1: to confront Russian meddling. And I just pushed this to

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Speaker 1: the next, the next phase of the discussion. How what

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Speaker 1: does that even mean? What was he supposed? This reminds

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Speaker 1: me of whatever Trump had had is his early meetings

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Speaker 1: with Putin? Look did you see that he shook Putin's

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Speaker 1: hand and didn't even spit in his face? What kind

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Speaker 1: of American is he? I mean there, what do they

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Speaker 1: think he was gonna? Do? You know? Russia is not

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Speaker 1: what it used to be is this isn't the Soviet era,

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Speaker 1: But Russia's still a large, important country with a very

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Speaker 1: serious military and a whole lot of nuclear weapons. Like

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Speaker 1: they always say that Trump is irresponsible on national security

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Speaker 1: and foreign policy. Oh Trump, he's doing this wrong, He's

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Speaker 1: doing that wrong. And then there is no level of

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Speaker 1: belligerents that, at least rhetorically speaking, they will back away

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Speaker 1: from when it comes to our dealings with Russia. They

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Speaker 1: they have become brainwash to think that we we have

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Speaker 1: to be on this trajectory of complete and total opposition

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Speaker 1: and rage against Russia as a government all the time.

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Speaker 1: Very dangerous, very bad thinking. As I mentioned before, we

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Speaker 1: just had an incident in Syria where we blew up

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Speaker 1: with our airplanes airstrike. I'll give you the specifics later.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to stay with me through the show,

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Speaker 1: but blew up at least four, I think may have

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Speaker 1: been a few dozen Russians. So we need to keep

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Speaker 1: Russian relations open and const insructive. And things are getting

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Speaker 1: a little tense anyway, what would it mean to confront

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Speaker 1: Russian meddling in the election? We're going let me tell

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Speaker 1: you how this could go, folks, and you already know this,

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Speaker 1: but let's just walk through it together, shall we. So

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Speaker 1: we have Rex Tillerson, who I think could play the

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Speaker 1: krusty but very resilient sheriff in any Western pretty much

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Speaker 1: ever filmed. You got Rex Tillerson, and he's gonna what.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna sit down and speak to Lavrov of the

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Speaker 1: Russian Foreign Minister. He's gonna call him on a secure

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Speaker 1: line or something to say, hey, knockoff that meddling, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Lavrov, Or we'll say one of two things,

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Speaker 1: whatever the Russian counterpart is. I'll say one of two things,

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Speaker 1: We're not doing that, or you're absolutely right, Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: crack down on it, and no matter what the responses,

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Speaker 1: it will have no effect, because how are you going

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Speaker 1: to stop this? Folks? We've seen breathless news reports about

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Speaker 1: how there are like fake Facebook accounts out there and

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Speaker 1: fake Twitter accounts that are pushing hoax news stories, as

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Speaker 1: if that's a dire national security threat to US. People

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Speaker 1: believe dumb news all the time. We just had a

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Speaker 1: CIA director tell us that The New York Times ran

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Speaker 1: a major story that was completely false and the reporter's

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Speaker 1: writing it got duped. So what is confronting Russian meddling

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Speaker 1: supposed to me? And the answer is nothing. It's just

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Speaker 1: feeding into more of the hysteria over this. I assure you,

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Speaker 1: neither you, none of you listening to any of the country,

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Speaker 1: nor me, have our political inclinations, are votes, or any

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Speaker 1: of that influenced by Russia in the least. It's really

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Speaker 1: hard to get me to change my mind. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are very stubborn to by the way,

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Speaker 1: just taking a guess. But there's nothing that Russia's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna make me go one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of meddling we're talking about. Sure,

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Speaker 1: if they hack into our voting system, which they can't

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Speaker 1: really do because there's a they're separate, there's an air

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Speaker 1: gap with voting systems, but of if they tried some

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Speaker 1: of this stuff, all right, you know, we'll get mad

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Speaker 1: at them, We'll tell them don't do that. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: impose more sanctions. But preemptively we're talking about what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do. We're gonna tell them. You know, you

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Speaker 1: can't have people making fake Twitter accounts that are saying

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Speaker 1: mean stuff about Hillary still. I mean, this is just

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Speaker 1: like I said, these people have lost their minds. They

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Speaker 1: have no idea what they're talking about. Major news organization

548
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Speaker 1: has no idea what they're talking about at all. They

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Speaker 1: just know Russia is scary. Trump Russia. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: it childish, but it's dangerous. Rolling into a quick break,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot more. I think we'll talk immigration

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Speaker 1: and infrastructure in the next hour, probably just immigration. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's a little early for me on on infrastructure. Um,

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Speaker 1: maybe budgets, Yeah, that's the ticket. Budgets probably get into

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Speaker 1: that too. We'll be back. Yes, we we have seen

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Speaker 1: Russian activity and intention to have an impact on the

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Speaker 1: next election cycle. Here, I agree with Director Pompeio's assessment

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Speaker 1: about the likelihood of the two thousand and eighteen occurrence

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Speaker 1: as well. This is not going to change or stop. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is not going to change, nor is it gonna stop.

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Speaker 1: We have never seen any evidence of any significant change

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Speaker 1: from last year. I agree with Director Pompeo as do I. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got a whole bunch of Intel chiefs today sitting

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Speaker 1: in front of Congress. You'ret's saying exactly that it's gonna continue,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna stop. And I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: take away from that is but but Trump, But Trump,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do enough. What does Trump do? I mean? But,

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Speaker 1: like I was saying, they just they just want to

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Speaker 1: whine about him. I guess it's it's all just the journalist.

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Speaker 1: It's really all just one version of when remember that

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Speaker 1: woman then the resist woman just like screamed in the

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Speaker 1: air and it went just viral because it was such

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Speaker 1: a horrifying shriek. There was a woman who like she

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Speaker 1: like looked in the sky and yell at like one

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Speaker 1: of the women at one of the women's marches or something,

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Speaker 1: you know, hashtag resist right. Journalists all secretly just want

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Speaker 1: to do that all the time, and it really informs

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Speaker 1: a lot of their coverage, or I should say it

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Speaker 1: influences a lot of their coverage. We also had Kamela

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Speaker 1: Harris who was asking the following, if the President asked

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow to hand over to him additional sensitive FBI

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Speaker 1: information on the investigations into his campaign, would you give

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Speaker 1: it to him. I'm not going to discuss the investigation.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe the president should recuse himself from reviewing

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Speaker 1: and declassifying sensitive FBI material related to this investigation? I

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Speaker 1: think recusal questions are something I would encourage the president

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Speaker 1: to talk to the White House counsel. But guess what

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Speaker 1: not the FBI director's call. It's it's funny that you

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Speaker 1: know or Harris. Yeah, look, she's she's grandstanding and doing

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Speaker 1: what with both parties tend to do in these hearings,

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Speaker 1: which is just make their point and pretend they're asking

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Speaker 1: a question. But yeah, yeah, do you think the President,

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Speaker 1: who is the ultimate declassification authority. He's the commander in

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Speaker 1: chief and the head of the executive branch of the government.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he should just not be allowed to

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Speaker 1: determine whether the American people see anything about Russia. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's just tie his hands behind his back, the attorney

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Speaker 1: General's attorney general's hands behind his back, and we've got

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Speaker 1: a special counsel. You know, we can let loose. Let

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Speaker 1: loose the mad dogs of investigations, so to speak, right,

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Speaker 1: just let them run around do whatever they want. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I should Trump accuse himself from it. Oh, It's just

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. I also saw that there was

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Speaker 1: a breaking Fox News story a few moments ago that

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Speaker 1: Trump's outside legal counsel is making the case that Trump

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Speaker 1: should not speak to Mueller. And I hope all of

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Speaker 1: Trump's counsel is making that case, because that is the

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Speaker 1: correct answer. There is no other answer. And I am

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Speaker 1: glad that if nothing else. If I can provide you

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Speaker 1: with with some lasting advice from listening to this show,

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Speaker 1: one is where comfortable shoes whenever you can, too, is

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Speaker 1: don't ever talk to the FBI when it's time for

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Speaker 1: you to talk to the FBI. You'll know, right, if

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Speaker 1: you've got your lawyer, president or whatever, and hopefully not

615
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: you will ever have to deal with this or if

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Speaker 1: you know, if you've been the victim of a crime

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Speaker 1: or something. Right, but you'll know. But as a general rule,

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Speaker 1: never talked to the FBI. There's nothing against FBI agents.

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Speaker 1: They just they have a tremendous tool at their disposal,

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Speaker 1: which is the moment you say something that is material

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Speaker 1: and false, they have you. You are You are now

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Speaker 1: a criminal awaiting trial. Um which I actually think that

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Speaker 1: that law should be revisited. I think that testimony under

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Speaker 1: oath versus testimony given the on the spur of the moment,

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Speaker 1: for example, especially when it's sprung on somebody who doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know they're a suspect. You know, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be admissible. I'm just saying that that that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go to prison for five years just based

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Speaker 1: on that. It seems a little harsh, a little harsh.

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Speaker 1: But Trump should not speak to them. That would be

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Speaker 1: a a mistake. I'm also going to just go out

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Speaker 1: there and say it. You know, I'm a little disappointed

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Speaker 1: we don't have the memo. Yet I thought we'd have

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Speaker 1: the Democrat memo, and I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: pretty lame. I don't think it's going to open up

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Speaker 1: much in the way of new information. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's going to kick open this investigation and and tell

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Speaker 1: us a lot. I do believe the Democrats have been

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Speaker 1: playing games with the classified information they've put into it,

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Speaker 1: as I knew they would, as I said they would, right.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I kind of want to see

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Speaker 1: what the Democrats have up their sleep on this one.

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Speaker 1: We can get a really good sense as to whether

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Speaker 1: or not. And I actually kind of wish that Trump

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Speaker 1: had just said, you know what, fun if this is

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Speaker 1: what Democrats want to put out there, he's actually just

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Speaker 1: being responsible about this. So it must have been really

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Speaker 1: bad information I would know, I mean, really sensitive classified

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Speaker 1: information the Democrats put in their memo. Um. But then

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Speaker 1: I wonder why there. I guess the Republicans only voted

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Speaker 1: to only voter to send it to the White House,

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Speaker 1: knowing that Trump would have to say no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: we can't do that. The whole thing strikes me as

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Speaker 1: a little odd. But I was hoping we had the

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Speaker 1: Democrat memo this week. I don't know, it's looking like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get Yeah, it's gonna get held past it.

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Speaker 1: I like, I like pulling apart the memos. I got

658
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going. Um. I think next hour

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk well, North Korea, some updates on that

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Speaker 1: and the press coverage of that. Also immigration, because you

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00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: don't like talk about immigration. And then what's going on

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00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: in Syria? Why or US planes dropping bombs on Russians.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there. He's holding the line for America. Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton his back. Welcome to our two of the buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Thank you so much for being here, thank

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Speaker 1: you for staying, thank you for joining. Depending on what

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Speaker 1: part of the we find you. Uh So, there's some

668
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: very important policy matters. I want to talk to you about,

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Speaker 1: some things that we will all I think agree matter

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Speaker 1: to our future. We even have some very troubling national

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Speaker 1: security situations developing overseas, and there's just much to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Much going on today. There was a White House press conference, however,

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Speaker 1: and it sounded a whole lot like yesterday's White House

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Speaker 1: Press conference on a day where we have the Senate

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Speaker 1: hammering out well saying they're going to hammer out a

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Speaker 1: deal in immigration. I think there will be no deal

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Speaker 1: because Democrats will not want a deal. They are unsious

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Speaker 1: in their negotiations over immigration. They want amnesty. That's all

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Speaker 1: they want, and that's what they're waiting for, and they

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Speaker 1: expect to get it. That's it. There's nothing else for them.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing else that maybe more immigration courts to process

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Speaker 1: the amnesty. That's all. We'll talk about where that ends

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Speaker 1: right now and what we can expect from that back

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Speaker 1: and forth. And then also more on infrastructure today. So

685
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Speaker 1: looks like the Trump administration will be going forward on

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Speaker 1: trying to improve roads and bridges and all the other

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Speaker 1: things that we've been told about. Now they'll be trying

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Speaker 1: to deregulate much of the permitting processes for things like bridges,

689
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Speaker 1: and it's still early. I gotta see where all that's going.

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Speaker 1: But instead of even spending time on that at the

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Speaker 1: White House press conference, there was only one subject that

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Speaker 1: it seemed was getting any attention from the assembled journalist.

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Speaker 1: There was only one subject that they wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: about because it is clearly the most critical issue right

695
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Speaker 1: now the government is handling that faces million Americans. And

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Speaker 1: then of course, has ripples all around the world because

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Speaker 1: of American influence on the planet. Uh. The one issue was, well,

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Speaker 1: was was this issue one full week into the domestic

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Speaker 1: of You scandal involving now former White House Staff Secretary

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Speaker 1: Rob Porter, what we went about Rob Porter telling the

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Speaker 1: allegations you didn't deceive people learning drop Porter out to

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Speaker 1: stay here without through security claries. The initial response from

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Speaker 1: the White House was to prop up Porter and stand

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Speaker 1: by Porter. Now we're into a few days of this,

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Speaker 1: and they were asking the Intel chiefs when they were

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Speaker 1: assembled today in front of Congress, they were asking them

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Speaker 1: about it. They want to know the timeline with Christopher Ray.

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Speaker 1: They're going into background investigation discussions. And now you're getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of very uh, very huffy,

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Speaker 1: very agitated journalists out there who are saying it all

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Speaker 1: somebody with an intern clearance should not be allowed to

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Speaker 1: handle sense of information. Now they're all security clearance experts.

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Speaker 1: They're not. But this is just one way they keep

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Speaker 1: the story and the headlines. They want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the clearance process here. Here's I feel inclined to talk

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Speaker 1: about it only insofar as I want to give you

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Speaker 1: not the not that not that there's the other side

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Speaker 1: of it. There's just additional information that I think is

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Speaker 1: worth noting as we go through this. The guy has

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Speaker 1: already been fired. He's already been uh publicly shamed, as

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Speaker 1: I think he should be, because you've got two ex

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Speaker 1: wives and I think an ex girlfriend now right as well.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that also, So you've got three women who have

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Speaker 1: come forward and provided evidence and on the record and

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Speaker 1: give interviews. Uh, yeah, he had to go. But you'll

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Speaker 1: notice they're beating up the White House for things like

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Speaker 1: saying that they initially, you know, they initially defended him.

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Speaker 1: What's the let's just do a little thought experiment. What's

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Speaker 1: the alternative that anytime anyone makes an allegation against any

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Speaker 1: government official, especially anybody tied to this White House, they're

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Speaker 1: just gone fired. They've somehow turned even a a a

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Speaker 1: pause in the name of due process, just to pause,

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Speaker 1: not even an actual due process, into complicity with domestic violence.

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Speaker 1: That's what the media narrative right now is all about.

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Speaker 1: They have managed to make it. They're they're managing to

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Speaker 1: create an effective propaganda here whereby if you don't automatically

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Speaker 1: and immediately throw the person that is accused of the wolves,

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Speaker 1: you are complicit in their and their wrongdoing and in

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Speaker 1: their crimes. Uh. That's an unfair standard to hold any

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Speaker 1: organization to, including the White House. So that's one part

741
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Speaker 1: of the objection that they have, and I think that

742
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Speaker 1: they're being clearly they're they're being unfair, they're being disingenuous

743
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Speaker 1: about that. And there's the other component of it, which

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Speaker 1: is the security clones. Did this come up in his background? Now,

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Speaker 1: those of you who have ever gotten a clearance, as

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Speaker 1: I have gone through that process, and especially for a

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Speaker 1: high level clearance a T s H, you you have

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Speaker 1: to open up a lot of your life to people

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Speaker 1: who are government investigators. And it's all I would note

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Speaker 1: on effectively under penalty of perjury, all the information you're

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Speaker 1: giving them. So it can be a bit on the

752
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Speaker 1: stressful side, and they can ask people all kinds of questions. UM.

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Speaker 1: I can't get into what was fair game when I

754
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Speaker 1: joined the agency because we don't talk about that. But

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Speaker 1: I can just tell you that pretty much what the

756
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Speaker 1: agency wants to make fair game is what in their

757
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Speaker 1: background investigation process. I think they can dig deep and

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Speaker 1: if they find people and this is true government wide

759
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: now for security clearance processes. If they find people that

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Speaker 1: dislike you and say nasty stuff about you, is that

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Speaker 1: enough to stop you from getting the job? Should you

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Speaker 1: be banned from especially in the case of say Intel

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Speaker 1: community or well military, you get a clearance to depending

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Speaker 1: on your job. People that work in the White House,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to serve now because someone said nasty

766
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Speaker 1: stuff about you, know, they have to verify it, right,

767
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Speaker 1: they have to. And that's what they call the adjudication process,

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Speaker 1: where they look at all the different assembled bits of

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Speaker 1: data in your background and they come to they come

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Speaker 1: to uh, some some kind of a conclusion about it,

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Speaker 1: and they make a determination do you get a clearance

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Speaker 1: or not? And I would note that I've had friends

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Speaker 1: who are denied clearances based on what they told me

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Speaker 1: and I don't know right, I didn't get to see

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Speaker 1: their file, but denied clearances for some stuff that you'd

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Speaker 1: be like, WHOA, really you get denied a clearance for that.

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Speaker 1: It's not always the most clear cut standard. The adjudication

778
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Speaker 1: process is behind closed doors office for good reason, and

779
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Speaker 1: it can be a little bit of a mess. You

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Speaker 1: can imagine the government is compiling a dossier on each

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Speaker 1: individual who's gonna get a clearance. Think of it that way.

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Speaker 1: It's a dossier, right, They're pulling together all the stuff

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Speaker 1: about you, all of your financials and everything they can

784
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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of government employees with clearances.

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Speaker 1: So do I think it is possible? It is, It

786
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Speaker 1: is feasible. It is likely that Rob Porter. You know

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Speaker 1: that the the FBI or whomever, I don't know who

788
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Speaker 1: was doing his background clearance specifically. There's different government bodies

789
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Speaker 1: and agencies that can involve. But the government investigators found

790
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Speaker 1: evidence that he was a wife beater. Yeah, I think

791
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: they probably did. And I think it is also clear

792
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Speaker 1: they didn't act on it right away because they needed

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Speaker 1: to compile the file for adjudication. And did that maybe

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Speaker 1: not get communicated to the White House in a timmy

795
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Speaker 1: enough fashion, or did someone in the White House not

796
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Speaker 1: act on it? It is possible. I think it wasn't

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Speaker 1: communicated quickly. I don't know if somebody didn't act on

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Speaker 1: it in a way that they should have. Um, But

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the only question that I see as

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Speaker 1: being particularly or as being the one the media is

801
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Speaker 1: pushing that is valid. This whole notion of like, oh

802
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Speaker 1: my gosh, he's such a national security threat. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we didn't find out that Rob Porter was a wrest

804
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Speaker 1: and spy. We found out that he is a disgrace

805
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Speaker 1: who hits women shouldn't be working in the White House,

806
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gotten the job. But it's not like he,

807
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Speaker 1: you know, sold the nuclear secrets or something. And the

808
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Speaker 1: way the press is trying to dig into the story

809
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Speaker 1: and keep it alive more and keep talking about I'm

810
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Speaker 1: talking about it because it's all Trump is a misogynist.

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Speaker 1: The Me Too movement is is gaining strength all the time.

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Speaker 1: Trump is the as I said, called over at MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: the commander in chief of rape culture. You know what's

814
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Speaker 1: remember an MSNBC an analyst over there called Obama a

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Speaker 1: a word. He called him a word on air for it's,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a slang term for a part of

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Speaker 1: male anatomy. And he was banned from the air. That

818
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Speaker 1: analyst was banned from the air for weeks. I forget

819
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Speaker 1: how long he was suspended for a period of time

820
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Speaker 1: for that. But you can go on MSNBC and say

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Speaker 1: that this president is the command are in chief of

822
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Speaker 1: rape culture, and that's okay. In fact, you're celebrated for it. It's, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty uh clear the double standards that we're

824
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Speaker 1: dealing with here. But so in the Porter case, the

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Speaker 1: notion that this is all about national security, I'm just

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of a lot of oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the national security threats here. He was seeing classified information.

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Speaker 1: Him seeing classified information has really nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: him being an abuser, meaning that that that does not

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Speaker 1: mean that he there's no classified information component of the

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Speaker 1: story other than he's not an honorable person who should

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Speaker 1: be who should be trusted with his role in the

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Speaker 1: White House. But that's a different This is this is

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Speaker 1: an ethical issue, not a national security issue, is what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to clarify. But the way the media talks

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Speaker 1: about it, it's, oh my gosh, we're talking about clearance.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard so much talking about security clearances in

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Speaker 1: my life. And this from people who are saying that

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Speaker 1: Hillary's hundred you know, hundred plus classified emails was no

840
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Speaker 1: big deal. That's a national security risk. That's actually classified

841
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: information problem, right, it's a rob Porter jerk problem, you know. Bad.

842
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Speaker 1: And again, I mean, look, people, I know, people can

843
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Speaker 1: call and tell me, and I get it. He hasn't

844
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Speaker 1: been proven guilty of anything in a court of law.

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Speaker 1: He's entitled to a legal presumption of innocence. But if

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Speaker 1: we're making assessments here, guys, I mean both both of

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Speaker 1: his ex wives and and her ex girlfriend saying he

848
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Speaker 1: he hit them and they have proof, I think that

849
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Speaker 1: I like the White House made the right move getting

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Speaker 1: rid of him, and that it wasn't fast enough for

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Speaker 1: the press. Is liking is not not enough for them?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Um, all right, I can see if some

853
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: lines are letting up. Maybe we'll get into some of

854
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: this if you have thoughts on it. I wasn't gonna

855
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: spend too much time on it, but then again, we

856
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: talked about immigration a lot, and we'll spend some time

857
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: some time on Syria in the third hour on the

858
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: situation there. So we've got we've got a lot more

859
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: show coming. And maybe do you think this producer, Mike,

860
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: what do we think about this story about Office of

861
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: Management and Budget saying that maybe people instead of getting

862
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: food stamps should get a food box. So you get

863
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: you see this, you get a yeah, I've got some

864
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I've got some thoughts on that this could get I

865
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: should get a little spicier that I anticipated. Actually, I've

866
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: got some thoughts on that whole situation that maybe I

867
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: should share with you. Let's mix it up a little

868
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: bit here. You know, everyone's gonna blah blah cally blah blah. Immigration,

869
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about food and national food policy and food stamps.

870
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I think that could actually be really really interesting usage

871
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: of our time here on the show. All right, time

872
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: to go to a break. We'll be right back alright,

873
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: seam lines are lit. Let's get to some calls. We

874
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: got Brian in Saint Clair'sville, Ohio. Brian, thank you for

875
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: giving us a ring. Well, thank you very much, but

876
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: great evening to you. Um hey, were a bunch of

877
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: subjects that you're talking about. What's Ron Porter? And I

878
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: personally would support him to be completely innocent until proven

879
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: guilty and that it has to go through the due process.

880
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: And I say that wholeheartedly for the fact that I

881
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: went through an abuse of marriage, ended up being falsely

882
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: arrested at one time, and had to prove my innocence

883
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: h her father the police report the day I was

884
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: out of town, out of state actually, so I was

885
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: able to improve money innocence on that one and then

886
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: I didn't marry for another thirteen years, married another guy

887
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: and moved to Canada. That didn't turn out good either,

888
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, both of them got

889
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: together and the next thing I know, I'm facing the

890
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: same charge as possible accusations up in Canada and almost

891
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: got tossed in Canadian gale. And and I just asked,

892
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an ordeal. How did your ex

893
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: wives find each other a team up to try to

894
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: try to mess you up? That's that's like Jerry Springer stuff. Yeah,

895
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: it is Jerry Springer stuff. Um, the court did not.

896
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: Let's put this way, she wouldn't have received custody of

897
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: our child if she had told the truth so encouraged me.

898
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: She had to dispouraged me in order to demean my character.

899
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: In the end, three years later, I mean, my divorce

900
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: lasted three years. In the end, the court looked at

901
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: me and says, we're not giving her custody at all.

902
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: You get a full custody. So then when I moved

903
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: to Canada, I took my son to Canada. And of course,

904
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, everybody gets to know who everybody is and everything,

905
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: and that's how it all kind of worked, but so

906
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: you were you were exonerated, you saying, Brian, despite being

907
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: accused by two ex wives of abuse. That's correct, that

908
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: was correct. The first one done in the States, I

909
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: had a proven in court. Luckily in Canada, I had

910
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: already had all this information, so I just presented it,

911
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, to the attorneys and they worked it out.

912
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: And you know, the courts just dropped that point up there.

913
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: But you know, the people will talk, they will talk together,

914
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: they will form things. One thing I've learned, I've had

915
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: psychology working in the medical field, and one thing I know,

916
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: seventy of the people, doesn't matter if you're male or female,

917
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: will lie at any time for any reason. Umkin of

918
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: all will lie only when you're pushing the corner and

919
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: have to, you know, have a defense mechanism, and then

920
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: little good. Only about five or seven percent of people

921
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: really try to live their lives without lying. So um, Brian,

922
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: we're part of the five or seven percent here, my friend. Right,

923
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: So there we go, Amen, my friend, Thank you for

924
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: calling in, Thanks for sharing your stories. Brian Shields High

925
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Daniel in Missouri. Daniel, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Hey,

926
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: what's going on? Shields? Fields high question, and I'm gonna

927
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: play I guess partial devil's devil's advocate and maybe far

928
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy theorists. Since we're finding out all this

929
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: corruption in the higher echelogs of the FBI, what's to

930
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: say that during Mr Porter's background check, both of his

931
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: ex wives were interviewed, told the interviewer about the physical

932
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: and mental abuse, and he decided to bury it and say, Okay,

933
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm not putting this in the report. You guys say quiet,

934
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: and we're gonna tell you exactly when we want this

935
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: to come out, just to ruin the man. M hm, Well,

936
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: why would the background investigators? Well, I look, I can

937
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: tell you this, Daniel. I can't say that that didn't happen,

938
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: so you know, but I was just throwing it out

939
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: there because I think it may be. Yeah, I mean,

940
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: I think it's Here's what I would say, Daniel. I

941
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: would say that's that's a highly unlikely scenario based on

942
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: what I know in the way that the average government

943
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: employee goes about their job. However, I'm telling you that's

944
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: highly unlikely after spending a lot of time here on

945
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: the radio telling you that it is likely. In my opinion,

946
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: that the senior most figures of the FBI and the

947
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Department of Justice abused one of the most powerful surveillance

948
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: tools of the United States government to throw a presidential election.

949
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, I gotta keep an open mind, you know,

950
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: I can't be dismissing throwing it in there because Peter

951
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: Struck was involved with his interview process as well. So

952
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: maybe he was the one that wait, Peter Struck was

953
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: involved with with with Rob Porter. Yeah, well didn't you

954
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: say that earlier that he was he was one of

955
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: the ones that was involved in interviewing him. No, don't

956
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: remember saying that. I didn't. I mean, if I did,

957
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: I was a mistake. And I think I don't. I

958
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: don't think that's true, although I don't know. Let me

959
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: check on producer, Mike. Can you take a look and

960
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: see if there's any any correlation or correlation fancy radio talk,

961
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: any connection between all that stuff. But Daniel, hey man,

962
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I look, I like the outside the box thinking and

963
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, interested until proven guilty is a legal term.

964
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: It is also a concept that that we should try

965
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: to maintain in in most of our day to day

966
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: as much as we can. But it looks really bad yeah, okay,

967
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Danna, thank you very much for calling in.

968
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: I would also say that, you know, it looks really

969
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: bad with this guy Porter, and I, yeah, I know.

970
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: There's the pressure of and see look here, I've spent

971
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: more time on this radio show than I intended to

972
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: on the subject. But you guys get fired off about it.

973
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of calls coming in on it.

974
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: So you know, I can't even take We're not going

975
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: to take the next the next few calls because we've

976
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: gotta move subjects. But the for me, if you're accused

977
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: of this and it's not it's not true. I just

978
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: don't think that you you step down and you allow

979
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: that to be a mark on your record. Um. And

980
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: but I understand there's also the pressure of you can't

981
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: drag the White House down with your fight on this.

982
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: It's not fair to everything else is going on with

983
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: this guy. I don't know this kind of this guy Pore.

984
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: The more I've looked at this Rob Porter guy doesn't

985
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: doesn't look good for me. It doesn't look good for

986
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: my opinion. UM. So there's that a little more on

987
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: North Korea, I think I want to talk to you

988
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: about maybe we won't get at immigration today. Definitely talking Syria. Oh,

989
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: and some Israel stuff coming up, including UH Israel shooting

990
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: down in Iranian drone in Israeli airspace. That's kind of

991
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: a big deal because you know, the Iranians want to

992
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: get nuclear weapons so that they can expand their power

993
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: across the Middle East and also eventually destroy Israel. And

994
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: and so there's some issues there that we should continue

995
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. So we'll talk about that

996
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: in the third hour, as well as Oh, Anglo American

997
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: heritage of our eagle system. That is a thing that

998
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: we know about, but some people think that that term

999
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: is inherently racist. Oh, we'll talk about that in the

1000
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: third hour. You are not gonna want to miss it.

1001
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: He's back with you now because when it comes to

1002
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. So I

1003
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the Office of Management

1004
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: and Budget Director McK mulvainey saying that maybe instead of

1005
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: giving people food stamps, which is more properly termed the

1006
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program or SNAP, give them a food

1007
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: box similar to the very popular and quite excellent from

1008
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: what I understand UH Food Service known as blue Apron

1009
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: where they send you the food to make a meal.

1010
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: H Before I get to that, though, I just would

1011
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: note that the there's breaking news coming from CNN, So

1012
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the source. Take it or leave it.

1013
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: That Adam Schiff of the House Intelligence Committee, the Democrat

1014
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: who is the face of the Democrat efforts in that committee. Yeah, ah,

1015
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: he has now come out to say that there will

1016
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: be no revisions, no revisions of the Democrat memo. Huh,

1017
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: well now you have. Now you have something of us standoff,

1018
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: don't you. If they If this reporting is accurate and

1019
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: that is in fact what happens, that the Democrats refused

1020
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to make any revisions to the memo, this then strikes

1021
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: me as showing us what the Democrat plan here was

1022
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: all along. The memo was created so that it could

1023
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: not be released, so that then they can continue to

1024
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: fight in the public sphere by a whisper campaign and

1025
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: propaganda and talking points without providing any actual substantive information

1026
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: to back it up. Just Oh, we had so much

1027
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: more on carter page. We touts wanted to show you,

1028
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: but like you know, couldn't do it. We had so

1029
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: much on carter page that would have absolutely justified the

1030
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: spying on American citizen and therefore also the Trump campaign

1031
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: that went along with it. But you know, those mean

1032
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: Republicans wouldn't let us show it to you. This is

1033
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: what they are trying to pull off. I think we'll

1034
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: see it's not yet done with. But that's been my

1035
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: sense of where this is going all along. Um, Now

1036
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: with that, let's talk about food shopping for a second.

1037
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: So if you're like me, you show up in the

1038
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: grocery store and you're like, all right, take me to

1039
01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: the salad greens, take me to the let me think

1040
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: the chicken, no skin, no breading, certainly not fried, you know,

1041
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: just just lean protein veggies. Maybe if I'm feeling particularly saucy,

1042
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: allow myself a couple of apples. Uh, That's what I

1043
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: go in there with the intention of. And somehow I

1044
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: find myself, you know, getting GUACAMOLEI and chips, and uh,

1045
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: you can never have enough cheddar cheese, maybe some brie,

1046
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: some fried chicken nuggets. Obviously, need to throw in some

1047
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: some honey mustard sauce. Maybe a little horse radish sauce too,

1048
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: in case I'm really gonna party, you know. And that's

1049
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: that's what and you know, a couple of chocolate bars

1050
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 1: because you need a sweet treat and maybe some ice cream,

1051
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: and like that's what ends up in my cart. And

1052
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Ms Molly makes fun of me a little bit for

1053
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: it sometimes because I go in there and I'm gonna

1054
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: eat like a guy who uh just can't wait to

1055
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: show off his six pack abs. But I leave like

1056
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: the guy who definitely does not have six pack apps.

1057
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, I leave like a guy who enjoys enjoys

1058
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: his ribbis, his red meat and uh ice cream chez

1059
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: all the above. So I understand the struggle in the

1060
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: grocery store is a real thing. You know. It's a

1061
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: struggle to get the right foods and also there's a

1062
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Speaker 1: struggle to pay for it. I live near a Whole

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Speaker 1: Foods here in New York City, and Whole Foods is

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: is a pricey place to shop for food. It's great,

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01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: It's the closest grocery store to me. But I know

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01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: it's sounding I'm sounding very very bougie right now, but

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Speaker 1: I swear I'm not. But there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of very good stuff there, and food

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01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: is expensive, I get it, right, But the government has

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Speaker 1: now waded into the issue of making food choices for

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Speaker 1: people perhaps, which is you can imagine is going to

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Speaker 1: get all kinds of political and uh. I think they're

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01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna back off this, but before they do, it's

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: just visit with what Mick mulvaney, the director of the OMB,

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Speaker 1: said about the SNAP program better known as food Stamps

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: Snap food stamps. A couple of changes there will hit

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Speaker 1: the highlights. Um you may have heard about this already.

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01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: The food box program one of the most innovative things. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I think it originated at the U. S d a

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01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: UH secretary but do wanted to give a chance. We

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: thought it was a tremendous idea. So what we do

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01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: is proposed that for folks who are on food stamps,

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Speaker 1: part not all, part of their benefits come in the

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01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: actual sort of and I don't want to steal somebody's copyright,

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: but a blue Apron type program. We actually receive the

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: food instead of receive the cash. Um. It lowers the

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01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: cost to us because we can buy prices at wholesale

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01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: where they whereas they have to buy it at retail.

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Speaker 1: It also makes sure that they're getting nutritious food. UM.

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Speaker 1: So we're pretty excited about that. So say the government money,

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Speaker 1: give people food. That's the that's the planner that that's

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: what he's trying to trying to get at at a

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: ward in the washing post, those foods would include shelf

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01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: stable milk, juice, grain, cereal, pasta, peanut, butter, beans, and

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Speaker 1: canned meats, canned fruits, vegetables, some other stuff. Juice, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm very anti juice, I know, yeah, very

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: anti juice. A lot of sugar. We all grow up thinking, Yeah,

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: I drink a big glass of orange juice every day,

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01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: and it's like the the caloric and and sugar equivalent

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: of of coke juice. What do you say, what do

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: you juice? Oh, juice like homemade juice. Wow, now you're boogie.

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: Look at you, producer, Mike. Homemade juicer. Those things always

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: look great. Then you find out you have to clean them.

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the really fancy coffee machine. You know,

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: I like the simple coffee machines. Simple kind of guy.

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, look here in New York City, there's a

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different chains where you go in there

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: and they offer you some version of green juice, and

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01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: they'll call it like doctor smoothies, green blend of Colon

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: cleans or something, and like it's fifteen dollars and you

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: get to them, just go in there and you know

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: you and it usually the better it is for you,

1113
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: the more it tastes like lawn milch mixed with water.

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to go, right, So that's

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: how it fifteen bucks. And you think out by the way,

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: come to New York, come visit folks. Uh, I'll I'll

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01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: direct you to some of these places you can go

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: get your fifteen dollar your fifteen dollar juice. Um. Anyway,

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: juice has got a lot of sugar in it. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, if you have like orange juice, apple juice, delicious.

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, it's fine. What's the while? But

1122
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: just not people think of juice is healthy. I'm always like, no, no,

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: not really. But I digress. So they're gonna maybe do

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: this government program where they give people that that need

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01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: assistance in having and getting enough and getting a food

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: on the table, are gonna be getting these different It'll

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01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: be partially the what they're used to, which is a

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: card and e be And like I've been in plenty

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: of groceral grocery stores where people are using BT cards.

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01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: I understand it's it's similar to a credit card. I

1131
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: get how the process works. And there have been criticism

1132
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: in the past of should you be able to buy

1133
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: cigarettes with your EBT cards? Should you be able to

1134
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: buy soda? I'm like, never gonna get a soda sponsor here,

1135
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: at least a sugar soda any of the flavored waters

1136
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: out there that do not have sugar in them. Gladly

1137
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: have you been sponsors on the show. But I can't.

1138
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: I can't get excited about twenty four grams of sugar

1139
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: via high fructose corns share particularly, It's just not really

1140
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: my jam. So anyway, but can you buy that stuff

1141
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: with food stamps? Can you? You know, is there any

1142
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: are you allowed to make any put any limits in

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01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: place for what people are buying for their food? And

1144
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: it becomes very very tense, very political. People say, oh,

1145
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at you you're now keep on. It's

1146
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: the government programs. The government's giving people. It's a welfare program.

1147
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 1: It is it's a welfare program. So they're giving people

1148
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: money and letting people buy food with the money. Should

1149
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: they be able to direct them to certain kinds of

1150
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: foods and you know, say that you need to buy

1151
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, chicken breast and uh broccoli and not Cheetos,

1152
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: for example, which I used to eat when I was

1153
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: a kid, like bags of with Nestley Quick. By the way,

1154
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: It's like I was trying to give myself a corn

1155
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: area in the fifth grade. But these are the things

1156
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: that I like, Cheetos, Nestle's Quick. I need a whole

1157
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: sleeve of those Pringles, you know, I just go go

1158
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: Pringles for some reason. You could eat an entire thing

1159
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: of them, be like, hey, it wasn't that much anyway.

1160
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: So this is a big issue now or there's got

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot of back and forth on it,

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: and I just reminded of So I don't know if

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna go anywhere. I think they'll probably back off

1164
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: of it. Well maybe not. You know what we are

1165
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: talking about the Trump administration here, They may they may

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: take the heat on this. It would say, it would

1167
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: say the government money, and it would force people who

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: are on I shouldn't say force, but it would give

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: them some staple. And then I'm sure there'd be some

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: choice within the program probably of what the staples would be,

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01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: but people getting more nutritious food instead of just leaving

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Speaker 1: them to their own devices. I would note that there's

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: some very interesting and um under the radar studies that

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: have been done. I find food choice and all this

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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: fascinating because something we all do, right You're you're at

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: the grocery store behind food. I'm gripped buying food or

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, some of you are like nobuk, I actually

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: grow my own and I go out there and hunt

1179
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: it like a real man. But nonetheless, like most of

1180
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: you are probably going to the grocery store at some point,

1181
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: um and and getting food. Uh. But the choices that

1182
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: you make, it becomes very political. As you remember, the

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: primary initiative of Michelle Obama's time as First Lady was

1184
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: school lunches. Really that was or one of the primarynwerships.

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: I think that was the probably best best known one.

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01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: But you hear these stories from liberals about food deserts,

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: for example, and the idea here for years was and

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: this is kind of the payoff to this otherwise kind

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: of rambling story about food stamps and blue Apron like

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: programs from the government everything else. You heard for years

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:18,520
Speaker 1: that the reason people in low income neighborhoods across all backgrounds.

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01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: But low low, low income neighborhoods would not buy healthier

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Speaker 1: food is because of quote food deserts. They don't have

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: access to it. That's the Delhi on the corner which

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: sells the I'm really beating up on Cheetos and Coca

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: Cola right now. But anyway, you know, soda, soda pop

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: and soda pop and it's not like my grandfather, they

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01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: still call that. I think they call it pop in

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Speaker 1: the South still, right, Yeah, exactly, it's called pop like

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01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: that is a proper terminology for a Southern anyway, soda

1201
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: pop into and cheetos and potato chips and whatever. But

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01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:56,879
Speaker 1: if they had access to Brussels sprouts and Collie flower

1203
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: and free range organic chicken, that is what low income

1204
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: people would would buy if they were given the option. Well,

1205
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: there was a study that was done back in It

1206
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: was actually here in New York City, and it had

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting, uh pretty interesting end results, I would say. Um.

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01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: For one, even when the federal government subsidizes healthy food

1209
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: initiatives and low income neighborhoods encourages the purchasing of food

1210
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: healthy food and loan income neighborhood. So so they they

1211
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: are literally making it cheaper and more available than it

1212
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: would otherwise be in the market, and really going out

1213
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: of the way to say here's where their program. There

1214
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: are awareness programs, there are here's where it is in

1215
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: your neighborhood program, and there's the oh, it's even cheaper

1216
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: than it would be at a normal store because they're

1217
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: subsidizing it. And who wants to guess what they found out?

1218
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: Who wants to get us? If the food if when

1219
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: the government gets involved in food deserts for low income neighborhoods,

1220
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: it changes the buying patterns of the residents. Nope, people.

1221
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: If people want to buy Cheetos, they buy cheetos. If

1222
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: people want to buy free range of roast chicken, they

1223
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: brought buy free range roast chicken. The government, though, trying

1224
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: to educate, subsidize, encourage, course whatever people to eat healthier

1225
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: does not work. It was an abject failure. And so

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: then what you figure out is that, Okay, so the

1227
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: notion of a food desert, it's not that it's not

1228
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: there and people can't afford it and people can't buy it,

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: and particularly talking about low income neighborhoods. It's that people

1230
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood don't want to buy it. That when

1231
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: it's presented to them and it's like, hey, it's cheap,

1232
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: it's here, it's great, it's for you, They're like, I

1233
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: want something else. I don't want to you know, skinless

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: chicken breast and uh, you know celery stocks. You know,

1235
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I want what I want and whatever that may be.

1236
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: And if the stuff the government does not particularly healthy

1237
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: or or good for you. So anyway, I just think

1238
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: that's we talked a lot about food here. It's probably

1239
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: Chef Buck comes out sometimes and wants to have a

1240
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: discussion with all of you. Um, Chef Molly's way better

1241
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: than Chef Buck. But that's a discussion for another time.

1242
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: We'll roll into a quick break. We will remember the

1243
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: third hour. We'll talk about what's going on in Syria

1244
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: because it's really crazy stuff, disconcerting and uh, troubling, But

1245
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: no one seems to care in the country right now,

1246
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: which is weird to me given what's going on. But

1247
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, they'd rather talk about how the White House

1248
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: is got pr problems right now. We'll be right back. Well,

1249
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I wasn't planning on talking about

1250
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: food stamps and the program that the government talked about.

1251
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: But every single line here is lit. It got whoa

1252
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: people want to talk about this. So let's let's get

1253
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: into some of these calls. Here. We have Jamie in Florida. Hey,

1254
01:12:55,160 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: Jamie hick Uh, I think they need to limit what

1255
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: people can purchase with food stamps. I think the boxes

1256
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: should come in the same as the old you know,

1257
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: in the olden days, you've got cheese and means from

1258
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: the government. They already have a program called Wick Win

1259
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: Men and Infant and Children Wick where they tell you

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: weekly what you can get. You can get so you know,

1261
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: so much milk, so much eggs, so much formula, so

1262
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: much this, that and the other each week of the month,

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: and you have to get it weekly. And it needs

1264
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,839
Speaker 1: to go to that so that people who are getting

1265
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: assistance are actually using it for food instead of selling

1266
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: it on the street. I give you fifty cents on

1267
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 1: the dollars to buy their drugs, which they are doing

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: and in large numbers. All right, Jamie, thank you for

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling on the food stampers. You appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We got run in Florida also want to talk food stands.

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Speaker 1: Hey Ron, hey buck Uh. I've been listening to you

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Speaker 1: since your real news days. Thank you, kudos, kudos on

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Speaker 1: your progression so far and many more good things to come.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, all right, So this is not a

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Speaker 1: new thing. Back in the sixties. I'm a native New Yorker,

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01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 1: so back in the sixties come from a very large family.

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Speaker 1: They had U s d A when the program and

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Speaker 1: they actually gave out you have to go to the

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Speaker 1: distribution center to pick up uh the you're allot men

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Speaker 1: of food for either it was bi weekly or a monthly,

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Speaker 1: so you would go to the distribution center. They gave

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Speaker 1: you that big block of cheese. Have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: the term government cheese. That's where it comes from. They

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Speaker 1: gave you canned meats. They gave you boxes of powdered milk,

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Speaker 1: and they gave you the big cans of peanut butter.

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Speaker 1: The two different kinds of canned meats. So this is

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Speaker 1: this program is a retread. Would be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: what they come up with. What do you think good

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: idea on or not so good? Um? I listen, you

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Speaker 1: know what with with all of the iterations out it

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Speaker 1: that are that are currently out there with the blue

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Speaker 1: aprons and the ones. They're doing it on a for

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Speaker 1: profit basis. I think if they, if they knuckled down

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Speaker 1: and thought about it, they could get something really good

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Speaker 1: and beneficial out of it and still and get the

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Speaker 1: cost savings. All right, Thank you, Ron, thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling it from Florida. Um Brent in New Mexico, Brett,

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Speaker 1: we got about a minute and change, but go ahead

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Speaker 1: a buck, Shield time, man, Shield TI. I just want

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Speaker 1: to tell you, man, this is a serious issue. Man.

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Speaker 1: Where I live, they'll take these cards and they'll go

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Speaker 1: in there and every dime of it. I'm talking industrial

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: law beings, all that stuff. They'll pay for it all

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Speaker 1: in their EBT cards and then they'll get their little

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01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: food chats that make Themali's and stuff, and it's just

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: cash in hand. And I mean they're turning this thing

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Speaker 1: into a straight up business. And I mean they don't

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: spend a dime on it, on Cheetos or nothing, but

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Speaker 1: it's all it does. I would be I would be

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Speaker 1: very curious to see what food stamp you know, what

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Speaker 1: they have on food stamp fraud and food stamp abuse numbers,

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: because I can tell you brown one of the things

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Speaker 1: I learned about I was the m y p D is.

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Speaker 1: They're like one of them, just because for for obvious

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Speaker 1: political reasons, welfare fraud you have to be really egregious

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: for anyone to actually investigate or care. It's it's much

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Speaker 1: more rampant than people want to admit or that they

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Speaker 1: even know about. So that's an interesting Thank you for

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Speaker 1: bringing up another component of this Shields high and uh,

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Speaker 1: Team I gotta we're gonna get into a Buck brief

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Speaker 1: coming up here. I gotta talk to you about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Syria. I appreciate all the calls that

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Speaker 1: came in. We still have many more folks calling in

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Speaker 1: lines lit up on on food stamps if maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: come back to that issue tomorrow. But I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into some national security here coming up, so stay

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Speaker 1: with me for that in the third hour. The other

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Speaker 1: shows just talk at you in the Freedom HUD. We

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Speaker 1: have a mission. We fight for the truth in a

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Speaker 1: team effort, and Buck us back with our next play.

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Speaker 1: You are now entering the Freedom Technical Operations Center. Programs

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Speaker 1: must be kept strictly. Need to know Team Buck is

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Speaker 1: cleared and ready for the Buck Brief. Reports of a

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Speaker 1: US air strike that killed Russian nationals in Syria has

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Speaker 1: reports have come in in recent days. Here's what we know.

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Speaker 1: This coming from UH the This coming from CNN for

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Speaker 1: Russian nationals, and perhaps dozens I'm sorry, this from New

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Speaker 1: York Times, and perhaps dozens more. We're killed in fighting

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Speaker 1: between pro government forces in eastern Syria and members of

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Speaker 1: the United States led coalition fighting the Islamic State, according

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Speaker 1: to Russian and Syrian officials. Assyrian military officer said that

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Speaker 1: about a hundred Syrian soldiers have been killed in the

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Speaker 1: fighting on February seventh and eighth, but the news about

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Speaker 1: Russian casualties has dribbled out slowly through Russian news organizations

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Speaker 1: and social media. Most of the fatalities were attributed to

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Speaker 1: an air strike on enemy columns that was called in

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Speaker 1: by American backed Kurdish soldiers who believed they were under attack.

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Speaker 1: My friends, this is this is very troubling. UM. So

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Speaker 1: here's what we know based on the reporting so far.

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Speaker 1: The individual the Russians who were killed here, they were

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Speaker 1: moving with Assad pro Assad militia forces, essentially right elements

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Speaker 1: of the Assad regimes military forces or paramilitaries in the

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Speaker 1: dear Azor region. This is in the Euphrates River valley

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Speaker 1: eastern eastern Syria, and the column was moving and the

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Speaker 1: US backed Kurdish soldiers. They called in for American support

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Speaker 1: seeing this large movement of Syrian soldiers, but there were

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Speaker 1: some Russians among those Syrians. I believe the Russians were

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Speaker 1: working for a private Russian security company called I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: Wagner or Wagner, which has sent hundreds of contractors into

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Speaker 1: Russia to work as well auxiliaries for the Assad regime.

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Speaker 1: So this allows Russian special forces, Russian spet SNAs and

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Speaker 1: others to take part in the Syrian conflict, but to

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Speaker 1: not technically be Russian flagged military, similar to what we've

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Speaker 1: seen with paramilitaries operating in eastern Ukraine and part of

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Speaker 1: the separatist movements there. But in this case you had

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Speaker 1: a large US air strike that killed pro Assad regime forces,

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Speaker 1: killed a handful of Russians. The Russians are so far

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Speaker 1: keeping a relatively low profile about this, but most of

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Speaker 1: the casualties we're from a pro regime Christian militia, so

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Speaker 1: not technically Syrian ASSAD soldiers as assyrious Assad regime soldiers.

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Speaker 1: But this Christian militia. Like I mean, this is You've

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Speaker 1: got so many different pieces and forces and movements and

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Speaker 1: everything going on in Syria right now because we've really

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Speaker 1: gone into a new phase. We're no longer in the

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Speaker 1: primarily anti Isis campaign of the Syrian civil war that

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Speaker 1: has been one by this administration. We are now in

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Speaker 1: a second Syrian civil war or the the war. The

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Speaker 1: wars within this Syrian civil war are coming to the surface,

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Speaker 1: and it's dizzy ng when you look at all the

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Speaker 1: different factions and rivalries and what's going on in the country.

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Speaker 1: And I I am surprised given that we of U.

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Speaker 1: S troops in Syria, we have used troops on the

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Speaker 1: front lines. In fact, we've been worried in recent weeks

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Speaker 1: that because of Turkish military action in the north of

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Speaker 1: Syria across the border against US backed Kurdish forces, Syrian

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Speaker 1: Kurdish forces, that we could have the Turks essentially shelling

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Speaker 1: or dropping bombs on our guys in Turkey's a NATO

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Speaker 1: ally and they're gonna be Now that hasn't happened, but

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Speaker 1: that was a very real concern. And they have dropped

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Speaker 1: bombs in areas where and they have attacked in places

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Speaker 1: where we have allies on the ground in Syria, which

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Speaker 1: is very problesome. Force. Well, what are the Turks I

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Speaker 1: think that they're they're doing by by engaging in such

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Speaker 1: so we say unhelpful conduct. Ah. But this group, this

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Speaker 1: Christian militia that we hit with an air strike, they

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Speaker 1: call themselves the Isis Hunters, which is interesting. They they

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Speaker 1: are part of this Assad regime branding effort to be

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Speaker 1: all about fighting against the terrorists. And this is complicated

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Speaker 1: because the Assad regime is in fact fighting against terrorists,

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Speaker 1: just also a lot more than terrorists and bombing a

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Speaker 1: lot of innocent women and children and civilians in the process.

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Speaker 1: Assad is using the very real fight against the Islamic

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Speaker 1: State and the al Qaeda element in Syria as a

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Speaker 1: cover within his own side for whatever brutality, chemical weapons attacks,

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Speaker 1: and everything else that's been going on in the country.

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Speaker 1: He's just saying that it's either you know, it's either

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Speaker 1: me or you can have those crazy Gihattas running the country.

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Speaker 1: So his own people, Assad's people that are still inside

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Speaker 1: of Asad controlled territory give him a much greater leeway

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Speaker 1: than the otherwise would. But inside of this second Syrian

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Speaker 1: Civil War. You have a whole bunch of different conflicts

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Speaker 1: that are that are playing out. So for example, you've

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Speaker 1: got the problem between American backed Kurdish fighters and Turkey.

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Speaker 1: You have the problem of Iran Syrian Israeli conflict that

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Speaker 1: is looking more and more realistic all the time, considering

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Speaker 1: that the Iranians were just flying a drone from Syria

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Speaker 1: into Israel. I mean, they're using Syria. Iran is using

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Speaker 1: Syria as a launch pad at a forward operating base

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Speaker 1: to look at what's going on in Israel, and who

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Speaker 1: knows what else. Keep in mind that Iranian backed militia

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Speaker 1: Hezbollah in Lebanon has been fired. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: there have been conflicts between Israel and Hezbillah stretching back

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Speaker 1: for decades. Was recently in two thousand and six Israeli

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Speaker 1: tank columns went up into southern Lebanon. There's those all

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Speaker 1: kinds of problems there. So now it might be Syria

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Speaker 1: as well, could be a front of Israeli military at tension.

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Speaker 1: So that's complicated. And then we also just have what

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Speaker 1: happens with the Assad regime, and we say that we

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Speaker 1: want a sad to go. We say that we would

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Speaker 1: like the Assad regime to be gone, but who's going

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Speaker 1: to take its place, and how would that work. We

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Speaker 1: don't really have much in the way of a game

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Speaker 1: plan here, folks. We have defeated the Islamic State, but

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Speaker 1: Syria is a devastated mess, and we have, as I've

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Speaker 1: been saying, us troops, they're also US allies on the

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Speaker 1: ground there that I think we have some obligation to

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Speaker 1: for their fighting alongside our guys and taking the fights

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Speaker 1: of the Islamic States. So we can't just entirely write

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Speaker 1: them off, right, We've got to do something about that.

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Speaker 1: And this is a problem that you know, the administration

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Speaker 1: is smart not to get too deep into the Syrian

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Speaker 1: conflict and not to decide that we're going to remake

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Speaker 1: or rebuild this country. That's that's a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 1: But when you have Russian troops and or Russian paramilitaries

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Speaker 1: and American air strikes mixing, this is this is combustible.

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Speaker 1: And while the Russians publicly may be saying because they

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Speaker 1: don't this, here's the weird. The thing that you gotta

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Speaker 1: also remembers that Putin doesn't want his own people to

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Speaker 1: know that Russians are dying in Ukraine and Syria. It

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Speaker 1: also calls the diplomatic Headaches form. So that's while using

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Speaker 1: these paramilitaries is a tool for them. They say that

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Speaker 1: they're just on two Russian bases in Syria, officially an

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Speaker 1: air base in a naval base, naval base at Tartus,

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Speaker 1: but they're much more involved than that. They've got ground

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Speaker 1: troops that are right alongside the front lines trying to

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Speaker 1: take back territory for the Assad regime. And the Russians

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Speaker 1: may say, oh, sure, those weren't really our guys, so

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Speaker 1: we'll just move on from this. But the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is that they may, ah, they may try

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Speaker 1: to get even with us in some way. This is

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Speaker 1: how the game, unfortunately has played right. The Russians can

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Speaker 1: decide to make things very uncomfortable for us, but in

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Speaker 1: a way that we couldn't openly retaliate against them, and

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Speaker 1: that's how all of a sudden you could find we

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Speaker 1: could find ourselves losing a whole bunch of our guys

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Speaker 1: and sirious So you've got to pay very close attention

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Speaker 1: to this. And there's also just we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: David Iffun here in a moment about what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Israel, which is a lot of stuff in the

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Speaker 1: security realm right now. But there was a an Iranian

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Speaker 1: copy of the Lockheed Martin RQ one seventy Sentinel drone,

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Speaker 1: remember that one that went down in December, even in Iran.

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Speaker 1: The Iranians say they have reverse engineered it, and the

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Speaker 1: Israeli military is saying that a knockoff of our Sentinel

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Speaker 1: drone was sent by Iran via Syria into Israeli airspace

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Speaker 1: and these Railis had to blow it out of the sky.

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Speaker 1: This is this is tense. This is tense stuff. This

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Speaker 1: is something should be getting a lot more a change

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Speaker 1: in the media than it has been. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into some of the details on the Israeli side

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01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: of the Aasian here with David I fun In. And

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01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: we're also going to talk about Anglo American law that'll

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01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: be coming up, So stay with me alright, everybody. So

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Speaker 1: we've been discussing a lot of national security today on

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Speaker 1: the show. There's a lot going on, especially in the

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Speaker 1: Mid East, and it's involving our close ally israel I.

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Speaker 1: Got my friend David if fun on the phone right

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01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: now with us. He is the editor in chief of

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01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: the Alga Minor, which is a newspaper you should all

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01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: become familiar with David. Great to have you back, always

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01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: a pleasure. But so first we've got Net and Yahoo.

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01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Prime Minister saying the following. I've been warning for some

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Speaker 1: time about the dangers of Iran's military entrenchment in Syria.

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Iran seeks to use a Syrian territory to attack Israel

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01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: for its professed goal of destroying Israel. Holds Iran and

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01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: its Syrian host responsible for today's aggression. We will continue

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01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: to do whatever is necessary to protect our sovereignty at

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Speaker 1: our security, So David the Prime Minister speaking after a

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Speaker 1: drone and apparently in Iranian drone according to Israeli Defense

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Speaker 1: Forces spokesman, and Iranian drone based on the the Sentinel

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01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: drone that was well lost to the Iranian some years ago,

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01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: which is a stealth drone meant for reconnaissance, had to

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01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: be shot down over Israel proper. What what's happening here? Well, look,

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01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: just to give you a sense of the context, Israeli

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01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: leaders and military leaders in particularly I've been saying for

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01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: quite a while, is that eight of the threats facing

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01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: the country in one way or another are emanating from Iran,

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: and the Iranian threat takes on a few different forms.

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01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: The most famous, obvious to me is the nuking a threat,

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01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: which is something that has made headlines over the past

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01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 1: couple of years. But the biggest I think that's emerging

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01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: that's really taking a lot of israel attention right now

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: is that the Iranians have effectively taken advantage of the

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Speaker 1: vacuum that's been left by the infighting in Syria and

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01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: Iraqian frankly American abdication from the Arena, and started to

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01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: set up establish military strongholds in the region. Now what

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01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: obviously Iraq is a completely separate subject, but there's a

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01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 1: lot going on there that's really disturbing. The problem that

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01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: we've been discussing now is Syria, which is right on

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Israel's border. So typically for the last number of years,

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01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: this has been what these range have called a quiet border.

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01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: They've got harmuss and Gaza, they've got the Sinai, they've

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01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: got has Bolo and Lebanon. Syria has been quiet border.

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: The concern right now is that the Iranians have really

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01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: established a very significant military foothold in another one of

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01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: their borders, one that's typically been quiet, and we'll use

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01:29:55,479 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: that to launch attacks. Reconnaissance of ailance are Israel and

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01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Israeli target and what we shot bursting out into the

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01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 1: open was really the product of this build up over

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01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: a number of months where one of the players, the Iranians,

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01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: let's up, they let one of their journeys cross into

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01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: an Israeli a space, of course, has to respond hard,

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01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: fast and shop and the rest is what everybody's been

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01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: seeing in the headlines. This is really concerning, Dovid. I mean,

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01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: for for everybody listening, we have a situation here where

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01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: you have essentially the Iranian state in part colonizing uh well,

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01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria, I mean, turning them into not just

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01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: proxy battlegrounds, but also forward operating bases for Iranian military

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01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: power and in the case of Israel, Iranian military power

1540
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: that's right next door. I mean, this is we're talking about,

1541
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: as you well know, you can see into the goal

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01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: on heights from Israel. I mean this is not I

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01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: mean that that's exactly right. And frankly, this is a

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,759
Speaker 1: playbook that we've seen enacted in Lebanon, the South of Lebanon.

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01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean in many ways around effectively control of the

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01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: country and the country's military. I mean they take offense

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01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: when you put things like that, but effectively that is

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01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: the case. And it's the playbook that they've now that's

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01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: been emensely successful in Lebanon, and they've now merited in

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01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: multiple other arenas. They're doing that in a rockter, doing

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01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: it Interia, They're trying to do it in Yemen and wherever. Frankly,

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01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: wherever they find they find an opportunity, Wherever they see

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01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity, Whenever they see a vacuum, it rise round there.

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01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 1: And they're not they're not afraid to put soldiers on

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01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: the ground to put to invest resourcers uh and take

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01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 1: advantage of the lack of appetite from for many of

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01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: the of the Western allies. Um to stick to stick

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01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: to it in the long run, and they've been a

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01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: mental successful and it's unfortunately for where you know, they

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01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: have limited resources that are a country on the siege

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01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: and every coire boarder they can take, they guests from

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01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: the needs and now I'm excited they've just lost another one.

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01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: We're speaking to David Affoon, who's the editor in chief

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01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: of the Alga Minor. The Alga Minor is the fastest

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01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: growing h Jewish newspaper in America. Check it out Alga

1566
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Minor dot com. Uh, David, let's just switch gears for

1567
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 1: a second. We started with a SoundBite from Prime Minister

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01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: and Nen Yahoo. I'm reading today that police in Israel

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01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: are recommending criminal charges against the current Prime minister. Looks

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01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: like America is not the only place where politics gets

1571
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: uh gets really rough. What's going on here? Well, this

1572
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: is something that's been baking for for quite some time,

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01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: being the uh investigations into the Prime Minister's personal dealings. Um. Now,

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01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: it is complicated, uh, and there are lots of different

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01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: moving but effectively, the accusation is that the Prime Minister

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01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: of his family had received over a number of years

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01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: and lavish gifts, primarily cigars and champagne from various benefactors,

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01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: and that in exchange that has helped them out of

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01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 1: bits and pieces that they needed, including US visas and

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01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and other things. There's also a second charge in fact

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01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: that there were at least four investigations, but there are

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01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: only two that culminated in a recommendation for indictment for

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Speaker 1: by the police. The second was it was a deal

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01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: that he had made, was a or or discussed because

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01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: the deal wasn't actually enacted, but it was a deal

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01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: that was discussed, uh with a newspaper publisher when he

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01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 1: said that he would where he would take some action

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01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 1: to weaken one of the newspapers competitors and exchange the

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01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: more favorable coverage. That was something that was discussed and

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01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: was never acted. Now, now, the way it works in Israel,

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01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: first of all, is that the police can recommend an indictment,

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01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: but that the final decision is only made by the

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01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: attorney general. So this brief or now certain the attorney

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01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: general's officer quite a time. Obviously, it's an incredibly delicate situation.

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01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: You have a democratically elected leading and you have charges

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01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that are made against him, but you know by by

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01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: going ahead and finding those charges, you know you're you're

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01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: messing with the democratic process. So it's it's I would

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Speaker 1: not want to be the attorney general right now. It's

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Speaker 1: a huge weight and shoulders to make the right decision here,

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01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: to make the right core And uh, yeah, for the

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01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: first time in a while, Jeff Sessions may be saying, Wow,

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01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: that guy's got a tough job. Yeah, that exactly right,

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01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And I have to tell you, I mean,

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01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, just just from from Rice and obviously we

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01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen the full picture yet and sometimes you know,

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01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: they always stay whether it's there's fire, but what they're

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01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: accusing him of effectively taking about a a million shekels

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01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: and gifts, which is about two hundreds or thus thousand dollars,

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01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: it does seem like listen, over the course of a

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01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: number of years, it does seem like a very small

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01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: amount to to go down for. I mean, if if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about corruption on on that level, you know,

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01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: the level of a head of state, you know, you

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01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: want to think that it involves many, many millions of dollars.

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01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: Right to have a prime minister who served for you know,

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01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: the longest, serving as ready Prime Master for more than

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01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a decade in its fourth term, he uh, shepherd of

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01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: the country is a very very trying time. I would

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01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: say it would be a very unfortunate thing for him

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01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: to go down over over something that's really so stupid. Yeah,

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01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you're telling me champagne and cigars. It's it

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01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 1: seems pretty it seems pretty flimsy. But David we we

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01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: gotta leave it there for right now. Please come back

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01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: when we have updates on this story. And thank you.

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01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: It's always for joining us. David I Fun, editor in

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01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: chief of the Alga Minor Alga Minor dot com. Everybody, David,

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01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's always a pleasant it. Alright, team,

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01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna roll into a break. We come back. We've

1630
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: got a whole lot more show for you, So don't

1631
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,839
Speaker 1: go anywhere, and uh, stay with me. Since our founding,

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01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: the independently elected sheriff has been the people's protector who

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01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 1: keeps law enforcement close to an accountable to people through

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01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 1: the elective process. The office of sheriff is a critical

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01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: part of the Anglo American heritage of law enforcement. We

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01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: must never erode this historic office. Now. That was Attorney

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01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: General Jeff Sessions, and he was speaking earlier today at

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01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: the National Sheriff's Association on I'm sorry this earlier this

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01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: week on combating the opioid epidemic. This was yesterday, And

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01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: that seems like a pretty non controversial statement, right. He's

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01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: just saying that sheriffs have a longstanding, important role in

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01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: our history. And and he remember he's speaking to the

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01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: National sheriff's association, So one would understand why he would

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01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: want to mention sheriff's. But here's the problem. So they say,

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01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: he mentioned the Anglo American tradition of law enforcement. Wait

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01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: a second, I don't. I don't understand why would he

1647
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: say such a thing. People got very upset over this.

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01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 1: They immediately went into this place of oh, that's some

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01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: kind of a white nationalist dog whistle. Now, ignorance knows

1650
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: no bounds on the left. We are quite aware of that.

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01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: But this is really just going too far. You know,

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01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: I can't I can't abide this. The buck cannot abide.

1653
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: This is not gonna fly. And other press outlets were

1654
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: going along because I'm gonna explain, and I know all

1655
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: of you listening already know. And the the anglis x

1656
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: tradition of law enforcement speaking about sheriff is actually are

1657
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: is speaking directly to English common law, which is a sin.

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01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 1: It's the same thing common law, the Anglo Saxon tradition

1659
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: of law. Our laws, the basis of our laws. I

1660
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: know natural law comes from God, but I mean the

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01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: the structure of our laws comes from common law in

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01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: England and hundreds of years of it. Right really stretching

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01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: all the way back to the Magna Carta. Actually, so

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01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 1: U you can rock it all the way back to

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01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: the thirteenth century if you want. But it's it's a

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01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: completely non controversial phrase if you understand what it means.

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01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 1: But here's the problem, folks. A lot of people out there,

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01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: including journalists. I'm a journalist. I do not like to

1669
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: know things. I just like to write things and get outraged. Uh.

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01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: A lot of journalists out there are at least putting

1671
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: or you know, adding some fuel to the fire here.

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01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean. You've got the Associated Press, for example, with

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01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: this tweet earlier today. This is from their official a

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01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: P Associated Press account A G. Sessions remark about the

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01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: Anglo American heritage of law enforcement. Some see or some

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01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 1: here a racialized dog whistle. Those people are called ignorant

1677
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: because they do not understand something. There's not a debate here,

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01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: there's not a discussion. This isn't a dog whistle issue.

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01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: This should be like saying, uh uh, Buck Sexton is

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01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 1: born in New York City. That is just a statement

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01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 1: of fact. People can pretend that that is a political

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01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: statement or racial statement or whatever, and they're just being imbeciles.

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01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: There's no racial dog whistle involved in literally stating a

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01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: fact of history and and not doing it any way

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01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: where he he wasn't even trying to make a political

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Speaker 1: statement or anything. He just SAI. Yeah, the angle American

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01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: tradition of law enforcement, as I'm sure many of you know,

1688
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 1: the whole the term itself sheriff comes from a shire reeve.

1689
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: And this is a term we take from the United Kingdom.

1690
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: This is not something that Joe that just came from,

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01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: you know, from Walker Texas ranger or something I guess

1692
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that would be a ranger. But you know what I mean,

1693
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: this is not something that we've just conjured up here

1694
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: in the American tradition. I was just thinking about Texas

1695
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Ranger the other day for no for no apparent reason. Um,

1696
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: but that's what the whole notion of a shire reef,

1697
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: which is where we get the term sheriff is Anglo

1698
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: Saxon comes from England. And so when he says our

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01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Anglo Saxon tradition of law to a sheriff's association, not

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01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: only is he speaking specifically to sheriff's but he's just

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01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: speaking about what is in fact our tradition of law.

1702
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You know. This is like saying that that the that

1703
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Great Britain was the colon or the England was the

1704
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: colonizer of the United States. The English they colonize the

1705
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: United States. That is true. That's a true statement. You

1706
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: can say that's racist, or that doesn't that's not inclusive,

1707
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: or something else, but it's just a fact. So if

1708
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: people want to play this game now, we can't let them.

1709
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: Um this is and I would note it's not just

1710
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: some trolls, some Twitter troll idiots out there that are

1711
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: saying that's the problem. I read you from the Associated Press.

1712
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: They're saying some believe it's a dog whistle, but you

1713
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: gotta sitting. US senator from Hawaii wrote the following today,

1714
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: do you know anyone who says Anglo American heritage in

1715
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: a sentence? What could possibly be the purpose of saying

1716
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: that other than to pit Americans against each other? For

1717
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: the chief law enforcement officer to use a dog whistle

1718
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: like that is appalling. Best no vote I ever cast

1719
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Brian Schatz. It's his name. Yeah, I think, I mean,

1720
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm I don't think I'm mispronouncing it. Let

1721
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: me say it again. Ryan schats is a moron. That

1722
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: is an idiotic statement. It's unfair to Attorney General Sessions.

1723
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: And this is just parading his ignorance. This is walking

1724
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: around saying I hated that book and I'm illiterate. That's

1725
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He has no idea what he's talking about. Uh,

1726
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Maddie Iglesias over at he's one of those left wing writers.

1727
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: I forget where he writes, Sessions. This is what he

1728
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: what he wrote. Sessions could have avoided a lot of

1729
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: trouble this morning by either saying common law instead of

1730
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 1: Anglo American or not having a long record in public

1731
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 1: life as a racist. No, no, sorry, Iglesias, it doesn't

1732
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: work that way. Common law and Anglo American law are

1733
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: interchangeably used terms, right, This is these are not worthy.

1734
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: They do not mean different things. They mean the same thing.

1735
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: And then just saying well, because we don't what he's

1736
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 1: really saying. At least there's some honesty in this. Is

1737
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: because Sessions is a quote racist, even though what he

1738
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: said isn't racist, we're all gonna pretend it's racist. Sitting

1739
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: us senator who is uh what's her from the show

1740
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: with the Three Witches and there Shannon Doherty is one

1741
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: of them. I just weston Nanotuno. What's the you know, charmed?

1742
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I saw, I saw a listen thank

1743
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: you a Lissa Milano. She immediately tweeted out in response

1744
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: to Sessions is completely uncontroversial statement that he must be

1745
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: fired right away, and people who know anything went absolutely nuts.

1746
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Um other I mean blue Choh. Linda Star Sore. She

1747
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: she got up on this too. Uh, your attorney general

1748
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: said this. The office of a sheriff is a critical

1749
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: part of the Anglo American heritage of law enforcement. She

1750
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: she quotes him because she thinks that's like a bad thing.

1751
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, this is the equivalent of saying that

1752
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: the the English uh fought America and the Revolutionary War.

1753
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: You can make it controversial if you're an idiot. Otherwise

1754
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: it's just a thing that happened. That is true. So anyway,

1755
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Anglo American shire Reeve sheriff. We like to know things here,

1756
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: but other people don't. We're back with a little bit

1757
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: of an anecdote for my day and also some of

1758
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: your thoughts via roll call. Stay with me. I like

1759
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: to think of this as an injustice league of anti trumpers.

1760
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: These are all people that had key access at important

1761
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 1: points in the entire Russia Trump collusion narrative, and also

1762
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: have an anti Trump animals that they don't like Donald Trump.

1763
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about some of these folks like

1764
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: for example, Christopher Steel, Fine, he is a gun for hire.

1765
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: He's essentially a glorified private investigator in this context, but

1766
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: he has been involved at every step with the way

1767
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: of manufacturing this Russia collusion narrative. Al Right, so as

1768
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: we closed up the show here, I gotta say that

1769
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: was a that was a very strong opening I had

1770
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: there on Fox and Friends this morning. All was going

1771
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 1: according to plan. I even coined a phrase that I

1772
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: think you'll be hearing more of the injustice League of

1773
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: anti Trumpers. I'm proud of myself. I came up with

1774
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 1: that at five something in the morning. Those of you

1775
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: who have been with me, those who have been uh

1776
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: OSS original Saturday Squad in particular, tend to know that

1777
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I am the opposite of a morning person. I am

1778
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,560
Speaker 1: one of these people who can actually have a conversation

1779
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: really early in the morning that I basically entirely forget um.

1780
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: I sometimes have to stop myself from like walking out

1781
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,560
Speaker 1: of my apartment just wearing a sweatshirt and boxers and

1782
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: like flip flops because you know you need pants. I'm

1783
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: just not a morning person. I I can kind of

1784
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: rev up for a second early on, but you know,

1785
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: so like I can do it, but then afterwards it's

1786
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 1: a bit like those of you who have seen Old

1787
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: School when Will Farrell has to debate and and he

1788
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: debates the raging Cajun James Carville an Old School and

1789
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: then right after he finishes, he kind of like melts

1790
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: down and can't really speak anymore. That's how I am

1791
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: in the morning, right, I can. I can do it

1792
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: for a few minutes, and then I was just like

1793
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: I just fall down and I can't really handle it anymore. Um.

1794
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: And it also means that occasionally I show up and um,

1795
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: maybe have tie askew or something like that. Well today

1796
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: during my Fox and Friends segment. And look, it's important,

1797
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: right if you're gonna be in the TV business, you

1798
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: gotta remember stay humble, because you will be humbled. Things

1799
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 1: will happen and you'll say, yeah, so I had. And

1800
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 1: if you go and you see the clip, and it's

1801
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: on the Fox and Friends account on the Twitter account,

1802
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 1: so you can see it. It's on Facebook two, so

1803
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: it's out there. Um. I somehow, and I cannot only

1804
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: take so much credit for this, because I don't know

1805
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 1: even how one would do this. But everything looked fine

1806
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: with the swoop, which is my affectionate term for my

1807
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: own hair, which is probably weird that I refer to

1808
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: my hair, almost as though it's an inanimate object. We're

1809
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,759
Speaker 1: in the third person, but in the era of Trump,

1810
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: I feel like hair has taken on a whole new

1811
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: personific Asian right, Trump has a swoop, I have a

1812
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: swoop buck swoop, Trump swoop. You know, tomato tomato. And somehow,

1813
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: as I was doing my segment and no one thought

1814
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 1: to maybe just say, hey, Buck, you know you got

1815
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: a little thing going on there, I developed what I

1816
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: could only call a shark fin in the back of

1817
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: my head. So it's now, if it were in the front,

1818
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: it might look a bit like a foe hawk like

1819
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: it might have looked a little cool, But the shark

1820
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: fin has not yet caught on with the cool kids.

1821
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: Imagine like a retractable mohawk that only comes out of

1822
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: the very back of my head. And that's why it

1823
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: was very It was shark finn like, and maybe that

1824
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 1: makes it sound much cooler than it was, But I

1825
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: just bring it up because one, it's just a reminder of,

1826
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, stuff happens in TV. And and also too

1827
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: sure enough, despite the audio in that segment, I love

1828
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: it they carry like the Fox TV Show on different

1829
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: radio stations sometimes because or on different radioizations because at

1830
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: least people heard the The audio was great, right, kill

1831
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: me and I I really like Brian. We had we

1832
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: had a really good back and forth and the segment

1833
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: was a strong segment. But all I saw the commentary afterwards,

1834
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: no one was like, Wow, Injustice League, that's a really

1835
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: cool phrase you've just coined. Like, oh, that's a really

1836
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: you know, you're really bringing some things together here. I

1837
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: like your insight about former CI director Brennan as a

1838
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: c I a guy. You've got a lot to offer

1839
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 1: on this. Oh no, they're all like nice shock finn jerk.

1840
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: You look like you look like somebody woke up and city.

1841
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: I want to look like a porcupine, you know. I mean,

1842
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: it's some of them were funnier than others, at least

1843
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: the funny ones I'll kind of go with. But it's

1844
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: just a reminder that the problem with going on TV.

1845
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I love radio so much

1846
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 1: is it as there's a purity to this. Sure, maybe

1847
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: I'll sneeze sometimes, or you'll hear some off Mike banter

1848
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: or something, but more or less, I can sit here

1849
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: in sweats, no one cares. I'm doing the show, and

1850
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,520
Speaker 1: the content is the show, right, the connection, the conversation

1851
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: between me and you. You doing TV. If you know,

1852
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: let's just say you miss a patch shaving, because maybe

1853
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: that's happened to me before, and not like a big patch,

1854
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: but like a little one in HD. That stuff can

1855
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 1: show up and you just get ripped. I mean, people

1856
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: who just you do oh don't you don't want a mirror?

1857
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: Dufus a? Do you even lift? Bro? I mean, that's

1858
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of the stuff that you end up getting thrown

1859
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: at you. And it was. It was a reminder today

1860
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: that sure enough the shark Vin haircut is not yet cool,

1861
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,799
Speaker 1: is not yet in style, so you know, it happens.

1862
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 1: It was a good segment though. It was a good thing.

1863
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 1: I want to play. I played the best part for

1864
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: you too, the Injustice League. I wanted to roll with

1865
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: that a little bit. So with that I want to

1866
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: do a little roll call. Now we got some time

1867
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: for a roll call, not a lot, but a few

1868
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 1: minutes here to do it. Oh yeah, it's time for

1869
01:49:55,840 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: roll call. So first up here we have David, who

1870
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: made a request yesterday which producer Mike made sure I

1871
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: would not forget. David with the following, Hey, Buck, I

1872
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: am Oss. So is my wife. Her name is Maria.

1873
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 1: We remember watching you back on the Blaze way back

1874
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: in the day. February today is our wedding anniversary. How

1875
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: about a shout out? This comes from Doc David, And uh,

1876
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 1: that's the shout out, my friend. Happy thirtieth anniversary to

1877
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: you and the wonderful Maria. Thank you for being with

1878
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: me Oss style since the Blaze days. And I hope

1879
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: you have another thirty or forty or fifty, you know,

1880
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: however many wonderful I don't know how old you guys are,

1881
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: so let's assume it's gonna be fifty, another fifty wonderful

1882
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: years of marital bliss ahead of you. So thank you

1883
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 1: so much and and congratulations guys. All right, next up here,

1884
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of messages today. Uh, I mean,

1885
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: it's always a it's always a reminder here that I

1886
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,839
Speaker 1: have both the the best listeners in radio, the wittiest

1887
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: and the smartest listeners in radio. When I read through

1888
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: the messages, some of them would be great, but they're

1889
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: not exactly not safe for radio, but they're still really funny.

1890
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 1: Here we go, though, this one is, Adam writes, buck

1891
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: love the show Love shields high. Don't stress about getting

1892
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: the next episode out. Let it be a labor of

1893
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: love and not a burden. Hopefully you see our eagerness

1894
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: for the next installment as an indicator of how good

1895
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: they are. I plan to incorporate them when I start

1896
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: home schooling my kids next year. Well, Adam, thank you

1897
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: so much, And that's exactly my approach. I'm gonna get

1898
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: them done as I can. The great thing about them

1899
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: is there's no These battles happen like h six seven

1900
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: years ago. But you know, you started getting into the

1901
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: getting into the math here. It's been a little while,

1902
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: so I don't think we're gonna They're not gonna They're

1903
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: not gonna go stale. When I'm talking about what happened

1904
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 1: in the fiftie and seventeen centuries in the Mediterranean basin,

1905
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Christian and Muslim forces facing off for control of the world.

1906
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: I was thinking, it's so interesting too that they don't

1907
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: really teach people, and I mentioned this on our Columbus

1908
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Day segment when we talked about the history of Columbus Day.

1909
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: They don't teach people that one of the one of

1910
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: the main reasons that they were looking for a a

1911
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: faster route to the Indies. Ever, ever, everyone assumes, oh,

1912
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: a faster route too, to the Indies and to India.

1913
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's because it takes a long time.

1914
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: There's obviously no Suez Canal, and it takes a long

1915
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: time to go around the southern tip of Africa, which

1916
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: is true. But then in now far away it was

1917
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 1: the other direction. One of the reasons they had to

1918
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 1: find a faster route or a different route was that

1919
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: the overland route had to go through the Ottoman Empire

1920
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: the Caliphate, and that was a big problem if you're

1921
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: European power at the time. In the Ottomans were able

1922
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: to take on any of the European Christian powers militarily

1923
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: and and then some so the notion that you're just

1924
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: we're just gonna have set up essentially a giant taxation

1925
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: collection waypoint anyone that tried to go to the east

1926
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: and along the old trade routes that have been there

1927
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: for centuries, don't even have tried to pass through autom

1928
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: in territory. There was no choice but to pass throughout them.

1929
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: In territory. You're gonna be you know, you're gonna be

1930
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: paying all kinds of taxes, man, a lot of a

1931
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of problems. Taxes cause a lot of problems. And

1932
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: that's a that's a discussion we'll get into again another time.

1933
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh now we've got a different take on this. Kevin writes,

1934
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 1: what happened to Shields High? It's been two weeks thanks

1935
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 1: to the awesome podcast, but really, where is it? Well, Kevin,

1936
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, I'm on it. I'm on it.

1937
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: I promise it's it's coming soon. I have I have

1938
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 1: not forgotten that. Sure enough. We we do need to

1939
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: get to some Shields High in the near in the

1940
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 1: near future. So it's happening. It's happening. Um, I'm hoping

1941
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 1: this Monday. It really depends on how social I feel

1942
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: like being this weekend with Ms Molly. So with that,

1943
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: I gotta close up the Freedom Hunt for the night.

1944
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 1: My friends actually even go hang out with Miss Molly

1945
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 1: and Miss Molly's mom, So Miss Molly and Mrs Molly.

1946
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Probably gonna watch some Bravo. Probably

1947
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna drink something with a little bit of bubble

1948
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: in it. You know, why not. It sounds like a

1949
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,719
Speaker 1: good time to me. With that in mind, my friends,

1950
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, excited to join you here in the Freedom Hunt.

1951
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: As always, shields Hi