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Speaker 1: Helloacha, Hi, we had a little bit of a technical difficulty.

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Speaker 1: It was the kind of one of the first mercury

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Speaker 1: retrograde situations I have felt, No, that's not true. I

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Speaker 2: But have you walid mechanical Like, is mercury retrogade supposed

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Speaker 2: to be more technology issues or just can be?

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, what mercury retrograde is is it's asking

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Speaker 1: us to slow down and review. So it's not really

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Speaker 1: what it's been made out to be in pop culture.

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Speaker 1: But with that, sometimes situations can happen where things don't

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Speaker 1: go exactly as planned, and the ultimate guide there is

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Speaker 1: to be like, oh, how could I do this differently?

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Speaker 1: What is this asking of me? Is this trying to

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Speaker 1: teach me patients like looking at kind of maybe some

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Speaker 1: of our reactions, responses, why this might be coming up,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Right, but people go, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we kind of demonize astrology often, and in

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Speaker 1: pop culture it gets made in to be like, oh god,

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Speaker 1: it's murcury retrograde. Everything's gonna get shipped. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: really it's like it's the time for a review. But

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Definitely one of those people that would just be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Our friend Mary was like, you better be careful with

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Speaker 2: You're gonna end up filming something or recording a conversation accidentally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, there's.

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Speaker 1: Thank god for you. Yeah, this is actually a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a funny segue into what we were going

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. It kind of goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: But I told you that I did a podcast on

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Speaker 1: her background is in somatic therapy. She's written a book

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Speaker 1: And you and I were discussing, like what are we

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Speaker 1: going to talk about from this because a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: first of all, we're trying to look at the lighter

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Speaker 1: things of life on this Edge podcast, and also like

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Speaker 1: we've just covered it a lot, Like we talk about

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Speaker 2: Media, right, we all think what we have to say

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Speaker 3: Have to say that it's not real, because it's very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting because I think we were talking

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to play the clip for the listeners

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Speaker 4: If your ex takes a steaming hot ship on your

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Speaker 4: I say this. Your coochie smells bad, change your underwear.

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Speaker 4: You have something called stupid bitch. So you wake up

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Speaker 4: the kidney. Let them. Let them take your kidney. If

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Speaker 4: life changes. I came up with this method, and it's foolproof.

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Speaker 4: Three words, take a vitamin. Motherfucker. That's four. Some bitch

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Speaker 3: It's so good. There's this thing drink ice cold water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that kind of what it's become.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just about letting someone do something. The

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Speaker 3: So I highly recommend the book.

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Speaker 2: It walks through like different areas of your life where

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, because it's just become such a buzzword. I

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Speaker 1: told you though. Mel commented on that post and she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I do think there is something to be

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do something that is like device over

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I thought Mel's reaction was really great, but

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Speaker 3: It really it really, it's.

437
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Speaker 1: It does not to think about.

438
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: Another thing that I feel like got really popular as

439
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: a phrase is spirit animal, which I think is like

440
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: a cancelable offense because I think you have to like be.

441
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: A Native America not a real spirit animal.

442
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: But like it's just like everyone's like, oh my god,

443
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: she is my spirit animal.

444
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 3: It's my spirit animal.

445
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Like though, I mean, if I had to pick one,

446
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: I guess it would have been Betty White.

447
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: Such as a good one, right, it's.

448
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: So good and I can see it for you so clearly.

449
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: I mean, do you have one.

450
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: There's no one that's coming to mind, like top of mind,

451
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: but I definitely there have been people through the years

452
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: that I think that is me, Like there I am

453
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: in someone else. Carrie Bradshaw's always one too that I

454
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: feel very in line with.

455
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: Another thing that I feel like has gotten you know,

456
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift named for tour the Era's Tour, and I

457
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: feel like everywhere I turn now someone's like, I'm in

458
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: my whatever era. And I mean even today I got

459
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: an email that the BBC is launching a podcast called

460
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: Eras and it's about big uh sort of musicians, you know,

461
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: like they have to be sort of iconic musicians, and

462
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: it's I guess.

463
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: We're talking about the era of those musicians.

464
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's smart. I want to know if

465
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: Taylor's getting a cut of that, Like did she tm

466
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: the word era, because she's.

467
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm she probably did, Like she's probably the

468
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: smartest business woman on earth. So but yeah, that kind

469
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: of concludes my list. There's the word boundaries too, like

470
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: that I almost forgot that boundaries is really funny because

471
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: I didn't. I mean, I guess I grew up not

472
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: being allowed or even knowing about boundaries, and now I

473
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: feel like everyone's got these boundaries.

474
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: And it boundaries get so misused. It's like it's the

475
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: same thing we were kind of talking about with any

476
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: of this stuff, where I think there's so many voices

477
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to even know, who's the expert telling you

478
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: the proper meaning or terminology or usage of these things.

479
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: But like boundaries, when I was first even deciding on

480
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: this topic, that was one of the things that came

481
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: to mind for me too, And like thinking back through

482
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: how a lot of times therapy speak can kind of

483
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: just become like and it's so it's almost like if

484
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: you have certain people going to therapy, if they don't

485
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: actually want to like do the work but also do

486
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: the work is another one to do the work. But

487
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: like if they don't want to, it's like they can

488
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: go learn enough of the words in therapy to then

489
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: kind of utilize them in life or relationships as if.

490
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: They're they're actually doing work that's not.

491
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: Think boundaries is one of those like it almost becomes

492
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 1: this thing where someone's like, well, that's crossing a boundary,

493
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: when really it's like asking them to be held accountable

494
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: for something or whatever.

495
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: You Also, like, I feel like, isn't a boundary something

496
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: that actually needs to be set, Like you can't just

497
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 2: like have boundaries that you don't make people aware of,

498
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: you know.

499
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: What I mean.

500
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: I think my understanding of boundaries, first of all is

501
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: they're done for you it's the things that you set

502
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: in place with yourself or with what you allow into

503
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: your life that works for you or not. And the

504
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: reason I set boundaries ever, is because only because I

505
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: would know there's certain situations that if I don't hold

506
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: those boundaries, I will not be able to show up

507
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: as the best version of myself or a good version

508
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: of myself or something like that. So those are my boundaries,

509
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: like the places where I can see that if I

510
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: continue walking into that situation without any boundaries, I'm going

511
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: to show up as this like terrible version of myself.

512
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: And I know that because I've done it, you know.

513
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: And so those are where I like feel.

514
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: That those are your personal boundaries.

515
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: Yea, but you can have I mean, there's also the

516
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: term healthy boundaries. Like I'm like, what's the difference for

517
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: the boundary and a healthy boundaries?

518
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 5: That would be a healthy boundary, right, But you can

519
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: you can set boundaries like within a relationship with like

520
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 5: you're like I don't want you on your phone when

521
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 5: we're together, you know what I mean?

522
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Like that is no, Like there's a fine line with

523
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: That's why I said the thing about actors are really

524
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: for you, because if you start to try to tell

525
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: other people what to do. That's controlling, not a boundary. Yeah,

526
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: so like the situation would more so be in that, Like, hey, babe,

527
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: when we're together at dinner, it makes me feel really

528
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: good when we can connect without our phones.

529
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Your phone triggers me if your phone is not.

530
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: But like there is a way to say, hey, like

531
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: this means a lot to me, or could we do

532
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: this like ask a question, not set some parameter in

533
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: place for your partner that isn't exactly what they want

534
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: to do or what you know what I mean? Like

535
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: that is more controlling to me. That's my interpretation. Take

536
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: what you like and leave the rest. Makes so much

537
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: fun of that now he always when he does like

538
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: impersonations of me, that's the thing said, take you and

539
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: leave the us. Yeah, in my own world, that's the

540
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: thing that's happened. Yeah, I think boundaries is a good one.

541
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: We talked about toxic positivity a little bit read book, yeah,

542
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: or things like diet and wellness culture like the cell

543
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: rey rous trend, like just all the trends that go

544
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: it's like this is the way that you get skinny

545
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: if you do this.

546
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: And then it's over and I'm like, like the whole thirty

547
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: was it for a minute?

548
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: I still live by that one a little bit.

549
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people do

550
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: like that. The truth is is, like.

551
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: All of them work, they don't all work for everyone,

552
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: you know.

553
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: So the fact that it becomes a trend is what

554
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm making fun of, you know.

555
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and trying to do all the trends all the

556
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: time is what I'm also making fun of with myself sometimes,

557
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: like we can pick up I'll think, oh, I want

558
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: that result, and so I mean I've tried pretty much everything.

559
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a positive side to that in that

560
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: it helps you figure out what work for you, Like

561
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: what's in your wheelhouse I told you before, Like I

562
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: can go access different modalities because I've tried so many.

563
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: I know in different seasons I need different things, or

564
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: like for me, even in different times of the month

565
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: when my hormones are different, like I need different tools,

566
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: and like meditation doesn't always work for me. Sometimes I

567
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: just need to soak in the bathtub or go for

568
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: a walk or you know things like that.

569
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: But right, right, you actually.

570
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: Sent me a really funny clips. Should I play that

571
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: one for the listeners? You actually sent me a really

572
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: funny clips. Should I play that one for the listeners?

573
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I woul give it a little backstory.

574
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: I sent it to our friend Mary about and I

575
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: called myself out on it because I have been trying

576
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: to make small changes in my life that can become habits,

577
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: and one of them is like my morning, Like I've

578
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: got this a routine checklist that I'm trying to like

579
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: have really consistent mornings. And it's like at the point

580
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I have to wait up two and

581
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: a half hours earlier than I used to just to

582
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: try and get all these things in. And a lot

583
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: of it is because it is not habit yet, you know.

584
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: It's like brushing my teeth is on it, but like,

585
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: of course I brush my teeth in the moment I'm

586
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: used to do that. I don't have to, I don't

587
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: have to think about that, but like I put it

588
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: on there now because I have so many things that

589
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: I have to check off that like I might actually

590
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: forget to brush my teeth now.

591
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: You don't want to do that.

592
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: I do not want to forget to do that. But yeah,

593
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: so I sent it to Mary being like this is

594
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: me now, and she wrote back you and Kelly.

595
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I feel.

596
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: About all the wellness trends. I'm just gonna play for

597
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: you guys here.

598
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: It's so funny.

599
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, just wanted to confirm that everyone else was

600
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: doing like like no screen time before a bed, sleeping

601
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 6: in a cold room, in a coffee before eleven am.

602
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Speaker 6: War more to with lemona s injo open you rise

603
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 6: but no ferone for the first two hours and light

604
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 6: in your third eye, first thing ready for half an hour,

605
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: ten thousand steps a day in automathon in no social media,

606
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 6: twelve eggs, raw goat's milk with three avocados, two raw

607
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 6: steaks and a full plant based diet. Down in magnesium

608
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: spray with ashagen the zinc vitman b to have son

609
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Speaker 6: gym cold therapy, but only before the gym because it

610
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Speaker 6: affect the gains electrolytes. Tet your protein goals. Two liters

611
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 6: of water, but please God knocks up water. No gellum

612
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: gorm suclose sugar sweetness, no porn meditation for half an

613
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Speaker 6: hour a day, also whilst completing high rocks and microdocim.

614
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Speaker 6: Whilst we applying to th four WhatsApp six of which

615
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 6: are three minute long voice notes, checking in your friends

616
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 6: and family, maintaining a relationship, writing in your gratitude journal

617
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 6: whilst going to therapy, and not to mention a job

618
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 6: and kids, just checking everyone else is doing it.

619
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Speaker 1: I love it is just checking that everyone else is

620
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: doing that. It's got it all of the list of things,

621
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: and it's so funny because it's that is me. I mean,

622
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: that is this podcast.

623
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, and honestly it is also kind of my checklist,

624
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, oh shit, I forgot to go

625
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: out and there's no sun.

626
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: What am I going to do? I can't get it

627
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: on my third eye.

628
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I think the point being of all of this, like, Okay,

629
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: first of all, when I watch that video, it is

630
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: overwhelming all the different things we can try. So it's

631
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: all about doing the best you can, doing what feels good.

632
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Like I always try to go by the eighty twenty rule.

633
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: You're not going to do everything perfect all the time.

634
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's even gonna be seventy thirty, you know, like

635
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: just doing the best we can and doing what you

636
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: can with each given day. Like I can't do all

637
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: of it every day, but if I have a day

638
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: where I'm like feeling super low. Maybe I will throw

639
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: in some extra vitamin D or things like that, but

640
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I think we can stress ourselves out even

641
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: more trying to do all of the things to make

642
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: ourselves the best version of ourselves as well. And I've

643
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: learned that from experience, Like you can almost get addicted

644
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: to that and way to you know, like perpetually being

645
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: this project. And I think I'm always going to be

646
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: person that like operates from a growth mindset and wants

647
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: to be better myself or you know, evolve in some capacity.

648
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: But I do try to take it all with a

649
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: grain of salt, stay in reality, enjoy the present moment.

650
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Here I go again on the checklist, but being a

651
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: little lighter about it than I have been in some

652
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: versions of myself or points in my life. And again

653
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: that ebbs and flows too, like some days you might

654
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: need more things than others, and some day, in some

655
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: periods of time, you might be in a deep soul

656
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Speaker 1: searching place. It's just kind of nice to know that

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Speaker 1: you can evolve or grow out of it, and like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be so black and white. Life

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Speaker 1: really does happen in the gray, Like we don't need

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Speaker 1: to be perfect in any of this stuff. That's not

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Speaker 1: the point of it. But if it becomes a trend,

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Speaker 1: it's obviously going to be everywhere. So if it starts

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Speaker 1: to bother you and doesn't resonate anymore, maybe find a new.

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Speaker 5: Thing, maybe start a new trend, or take it back

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Speaker 5: to your own practice.

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Speaker 1: Like that was a lot of what I took with this,

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Speaker 1: Like even what I was saying with astrology, I'm kind

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00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: of tired of watching astrology astrologers do astrology videos. Like

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Speaker 1: I have enough knowledge and enough tools and different ways

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Speaker 1: that I learn about it that are resonating with me

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Speaker 1: a little more in this current moment than just constantly

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Speaker 1: getting fed these videos on social media. I just get

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed and my brain starts to be like, okay, we're done,

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Speaker 1: Like hey, lady, like take a break.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem isn't necessarily that these things are

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Speaker 2: becoming trends. It's the problem is that we have just

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Speaker 2: we spend way too much time on social media.

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Speaker 1: Again, We're going back to social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's just what it is.

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Speaker 2: Is, Like everyone wants to have some sort of thing

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Speaker 2: to talk about and like be known for whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: and that's where you go build platforms is on social media.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, if you can stick to one thing,

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Speaker 2: it's maybe it's gonna break through. I mean, mel Robbinson

685
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Speaker 2: has been writing books for fucking years and yes, it's

686
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Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, she's had some hit books, but

687
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Speaker 2: nothing has felt like the let them theory. And I

688
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Speaker 2: think it's just sort of a perfect storm because she

689
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Speaker 2: started podcast. She's got literally one of the biggest podcasts

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Speaker 2: in the world, and it you know, media and all

691
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: of the things. It's just all sort of came to

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Speaker 2: a head right now with the let them theory. And

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Speaker 2: also it's like a really easy thing to let latch

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Speaker 2: onto and sure, yeah, I'm sure we'll end up a

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Speaker 2: skit on SNL very soon as.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for sure this video, Yeah for sure. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just important to to kind of remember the lighter

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Speaker 1: things in life, which is why we do this. This

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00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: version of The Velvet's Edge podcast, like the Wednesday episodes

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Speaker 1: are the Velvet this is supposed to be the Edge,

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Speaker 1: just meaning it doesn't have to be so serious. There

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00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: are ways to even talk about hard topics like trauma

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Speaker 1: in a lighter way and to laugh about it because

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Speaker 1: if we're not laughing, life gets really heavy, and we

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Speaker 1: talk about that a lot. Like the last couple of

706
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: years especially have just felt so overwhelming and heavy in

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Speaker 1: our society and in our world in general, and so

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Speaker 1: like it's really important to find the light aspect of

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Speaker 1: all these hard topics that we're looking into, and to

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Speaker 1: know you don't have to do it perfectly. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to learn everything in a day. This is an

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Speaker 1: ever changing, evolving world that we live in, and so

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Speaker 1: is your soul. So all of these things are great tools,

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Speaker 1: and like you don't have to take it so goddamn seriously.

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Speaker 3: Me right, you can always just let.

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Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, let them take what you like and leather

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Speaker 1: of us. You know, I did want to mention to

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Speaker 1: you guys before we go. We have started putting these

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Speaker 1: podcasts up on YouTube on my YouTube channel, and I'll

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Speaker 1: put the just the link to that in the description

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Speaker 1: this podcast. So far, we're putting our best episodes up

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Speaker 1: just to see if that's something you guys are interested in.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many people want to just watch

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Speaker 1: us have these conversations. I find it so fascinating.

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Speaker 2: People like facial techs.

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Speaker 1: Because recover well I think it's like, I'm such a

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Speaker 1: I just used to listen and so it's interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't quite get the things have shifted a little

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Speaker 1: more to video. So we're going to try that out

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Speaker 1: for a little bit. I'll put the link in the

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Speaker 1: description of the podcast and let me know if that's

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Speaker 1: something that you guys want more of, if you're liking it,

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Speaker 1: if you want something different. You know, I'm ever evolving

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Speaker 1: and ever changing and growing, so let us know it.

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Speaker 1: As always, you can email us at the Edge at

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Speaker 1: velvet edge dot com. You can also hit me up

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge Chip.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Chip Doors. It's h I P D O

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Speaker 3: R S C H.

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Speaker 1: Now, as you guys go into the weekend and you're

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Speaker 1: living on the edge, I hope you always remember to a.

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Speaker 3: Extra that was a good one. Yeah. I was like

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Speaker 3: like climbed. It's like it was a ghost.

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Speaker 1: I'm so impress on himself right now, all right for

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Speaker 1: American Idol.

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Speaker 3: Bye,