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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to another episode of the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast.

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Speaker 2: If I sound like who was a kroky.

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Speaker 3: Voiced actor, damn Maggie Smith.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Sophia Bush. She always has that kroky voice as well.

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Speaker 1: That's actually just how she sounds.

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Speaker 3: Mailey Cyrus Ooh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, guys, I've had a cold.

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Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a fun time down

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Speaker 1: in Miami, and I suspect my four hours a night

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Speaker 1: of average.

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Speaker 2: Sleep probably induced this cold.

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Speaker 1: Although I couldn't really talk about five days ago, so

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Speaker 1: this is an improvement.

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Speaker 3: I was just really happy you recovered in time for

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Speaker 3: our live podcast event.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we did a live podcast here in New

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Speaker 1: York City in the Grammacy Park area in Grammacy, Inn.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was so great? Was it was great?

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Speaker 3: It was packed. We ended up selling it out. I

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Speaker 3: mean I thought we were going to be packed, but

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Speaker 3: the and the forecast was calling Karine and I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's the holidays. Who knows everybody turned up?

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Speaker 1: Everybody too on time too? What is it Whenever they

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Speaker 1: predict that with New York it never happens. Remember that

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Speaker 1: time had they predicted there was going to be that

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Speaker 1: huge hurricane that came through here and Times I remember

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Speaker 1: I was I wasn't living here at the time, and

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Speaker 1: I remember I had to I forgot my phone charger

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Speaker 1: at like the hotel the week before, and I had

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Speaker 1: to go out and get one. And I was in

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Speaker 1: like the Times Square area and I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, no one was out and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. And then the pandemic

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Speaker 1: came in twenty twenty and I was like, Wow, that

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Speaker 1: really can.

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Speaker 3: Happen, right, Times Square can be emptied of people.

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Speaker 2: Can be empty.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I just want to say thank you to everybody

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Speaker 1: that came to our podcast, and hopefully you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this one now.

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Speaker 2: But we had a blast.

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Speaker 1: We really do appreciate you all turning up and coming

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Speaker 1: and we had such fun. And I know we didn't

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Speaker 1: give it up for questions and answers in the crowd,

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Speaker 1: which we ran.

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Speaker 3: Out of time. We ran out of time because there

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Speaker 3: was so much to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to keep you there for hours listening

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Speaker 1: to me dribble on in particular. But I hope I

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Speaker 1: answered some of your questions when you came out to

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Speaker 1: me to talk to me in person. But next time

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Speaker 1: we do that, we'll make sure that we need to

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Speaker 1: have a little buzzer on me that says, okay, now

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Speaker 1: it's start.

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Speaker 2: Time to ask questions to the crowd.

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Speaker 3: No, we also need a bigger venue, and we do,

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Speaker 3: which is great. It's a good problem to have. And

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Speaker 3: also a lot of people have been listening for years

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Speaker 3: and years, and a lot of people were pumped to,

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Speaker 3: like I said, come out on a Sunday, which was

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Speaker 3: awesome and fun, and we should clearly, clearly do more

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Speaker 3: of those sow and twenty four. We hear you loud

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Speaker 3: and clear, and Renee in particular has something special tucked

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Speaker 3: up or sleeve. We'll not say more about it at

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Speaker 3: this moment. Yes, but I do want to add, as

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Speaker 3: a piece of cultural commentary for which I have become known,

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Speaker 3: I do think weather apps are a scam. So just

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Speaker 3: the weather is pretend.

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Speaker 1: Oh, weather's scams worse than political polls. Yes, a year out,

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Speaker 1: that's right, we're actually a day out of that.

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Speaker 3: There's just false flag information.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see a pole.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm like whatever, sure, Like I don't even give

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Speaker 1: a shit After what happened to Hillary in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I don't believe in poles anymore.

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Speaker 3: All you got to do is turn up. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Whatever anybody says, don't listen.

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Speaker 2: Just turn up.

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Speaker 3: Just turn up.

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Speaker 2: Please go turn up.

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Speaker 3: Turn up to vote, turn up to a live podcast.

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Speaker 2: Just show it. Do you hear what Trump said yesterday?

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Speaker 3: We can't please, I can't talk about Donald Trump, renee.

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Speaker 1: Poisoning the blood. It's like, what the fuck? Anyway, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to our podcast.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about tennis.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the predictions and what we

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Speaker 1: see twenty twenty four looking like.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start with the men. We usually don't

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Speaker 1: We usually throw them in at the end as a token,

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Speaker 1: but we do want to give them a bit of

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Speaker 1: love today. And of course we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic and his dominance over the Beds Tour, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Feels like he has a stranglehold over everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six years of age, wins three Grand Slams and

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Speaker 1: the ATP Finals, came.

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Speaker 3: A couple of games away from winning all four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, let's face it, if he beats

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Speaker 1: Jennick Sinner up those three match points in Davis Cup.

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Speaker 1: He probably takes some of the Davis Cup as well,

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Speaker 1: But kudos.

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Speaker 2: To Sinna for hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, Yanik had a great year end of year,

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Speaker 1: but Yannick is going to have to prove himself over

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Speaker 1: five sets in a Grand Slam before he can unseat

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Speaker 1: the goat Novak Djokovic. Just what a year he had,

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Speaker 1: and I predict that he's going to have as good

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Speaker 1: primed for the last great run of his career.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's because age at.

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Speaker 1: Some point, at some point, even for someone like him

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Speaker 1: who is in phenomenal shape, look what he does. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if anyone saw that sixty minute seeing on him, he's

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Speaker 1: so flexible, he's incredible. I think he can absolutely play

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Speaker 1: until he's thirty eight, thirty nine, forty quite easily. I

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Speaker 1: just think at some point that starts to catch up

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Speaker 1: Andrea Pekovic mentioned that in our pod that we did,

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Speaker 1: age does catch up to you. I mean, you get

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Speaker 1: one injury, it becomes another, etc. But right now he

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Speaker 1: And I think he's focused solely on winning a gold medal.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, do you think the reason

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Speaker 3: the extra motivation of this being an Olympic year, the

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Speaker 3: one time by Stephanie Graff, which to me is the

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Speaker 3: coolest record in tennis. There are lots of records I like.

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Speaker 3: I like overall tournaments, one which I think Martina and

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Speaker 2: Slay Jimmy Connors.

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Speaker 1: It's the only record that Novak doesn't have or have

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Speaker 1: a gold medal, but the total atp to a wins

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Speaker 1: is still Jimmy Connors, which is fucking crazy. Like we

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Speaker 1: never talk about Jimmy talk about Jimmy Connors as a person.

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Speaker 3: Probably because he's not super well liked, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you can't his bipolarizing. He's polarizing. Yeah, actually not not

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Speaker 3: unlike Novak, although you know, Jimmy, I think is much

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Speaker 3: less of a gracious loser Novak is, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Certainly Novak is definitely one of the best losers.

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Speaker 2: Would rather kick you in the balls and then walk

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Speaker 3: Which maybe speaks to the fact that he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: Be like, oh, yeah, tennis with Jimmy, how was that?

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Speaker 3: Was he a maniac?

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Speaker 2: He was fun?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've bout things that came out of his mouth

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Speaker 3: Yes, that doesn't surpress me one bit. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: which I admire about him. Yeah, but anyway, let's not

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Speaker 3: get Deraail by Jimmy Hunters. But that is a cool record.

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Speaker 3: The other record that I love, like I said, is

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Speaker 3: Teffi Graft's Gordon Slam. And you know, it is certainly

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Speaker 3: highly likely that Novak will be the favorite going into

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Speaker 3: the Olympics. Yeah, it will be on clay, it will

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Speaker 3: be in Rolandaros. Getting the Golden Slam is such an

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Speaker 3: insane feat.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know, well, I mean a calendar Grand Slam.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I think he's I think his mindset is, look,

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Speaker 1: I know that I can win all four.

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Speaker 2: He knows that he almost.

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Speaker 1: He came so close to doing it a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago when Medvedev beat him in the final the

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Speaker 1: We saw that in his demeanor.

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Speaker 2: He was just.

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Speaker 1: Defeated in every set the word, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to go into this year very set for all

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Speaker 1: the Grand Slams and the Olympics. I think he'll set

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Speaker 1: his schedule. I think he probably learned a lot about

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Speaker 1: not overplaying like he's done mainly on his own voluition,

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Speaker 1: really of not being able to play Indian Wells and

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Speaker 1: Miami because of the vaccine status of the US still

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I think if he was smart,

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Speaker 1: he would actually look at that and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to play every single.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a good lesson.

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Speaker 1: I just need to concentrate on the Grand Slams, which

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Speaker 1: I think he'll do, and then I think he'll send

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Speaker 1: his brain and his emotions around the Olympics as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you said you thought he was going

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Speaker 3: to win the same amount next year?

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Speaker 2: I think he can win the same Well.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he can win anything. But what if you had

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Speaker 3: to say which one you thought he was the most

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Speaker 3: vulnerable out of the four, it's certainly not Clay Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, straight open, he's on ten times. I do

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Speaker 2: think that Kin is going to be.

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Speaker 1: A real threat for him down there, you do, it

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Speaker 1: depends on the speed of the court. If it's faster,

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Speaker 1: I think Yannick really has a chance to sort of

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Speaker 1: bit slower, I think Alcarez has a chance to beat

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Speaker 1: him there. But you know, he's he's virtually unbeatable in Australia.

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Speaker 1: He has unbelievable support down there, and I think that

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Speaker 1: the likelihood of him winning eleven down there is really good.

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Speaker 1: I think obviously the French Opens being the toughest because

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Speaker 1: of Nadal, But is Nadal going to be a factor

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Speaker 1: again this year?

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Speaker 1: that point where he actually starts starting to believe in

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Speaker 1: himself and not panic under pressure and not you know,

440
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Speaker 1: pull the trigger too early, and his servers improved under pressure.

441
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Speaker 2: His forehand is getting better. So all the little things that.

442
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Speaker 1: Darren has worked on with him and his other coach

443
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Speaker 1: have worked on with him over the last twelve months,

444
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Speaker 1: you've seeing them come to fruition now in the big stage.

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Speaker 3: Encouraging for anybody who even at the recreational level, wants

446
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Speaker 3: to get incrementally better, you know, working on stuff. It

447
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 3: is the process. Trust the process, Keep working and we'll

448
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 3: look at the results. Take care of themselves. Because they

449
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Speaker 3: do think that there's something really profound about the concept

450
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Speaker 3: of watching a pro not only be great to begin with,

451
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Speaker 3: but working on things and getting even greater. Like Andy Murray,

452
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Speaker 3: for me, was the greatest, sort of most quintessential embodiment

453
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Speaker 3: of that he had to work literally for every tiny

454
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Speaker 3: gain he made. Because I think the temptation when you're watching,

455
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Speaker 3: especially the men, the talent naturally just is at such

456
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Speaker 3: a high level you think, oh, well, all of these

457
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 3: people are just otherworldly, And the truth is they're just

458
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 3: they're laboring really hard, persistently with intention, and yes, of

459
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Speaker 3: course there are godly elements to certain parts of their games,

460
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Speaker 3: but I do think it's sort of nice to see

461
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Speaker 3: somebody who's already good actually work really hard and see

462
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Speaker 3: it payoff.

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Speaker 2: Like Center, you have to constantly.

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Speaker 1: There's not one player in the world playing a professionally

465
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Speaker 1: playing professional tennis. It's not trying to get better at

466
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Speaker 1: something every single day. It's crazy, and that's what people

467
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Speaker 1: don't realize. Like I played till I was almost forty,

468
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Speaker 1: I was constantly working on things, constantly trying to get better,

469
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Speaker 1: constantly knowing that where my weaknesses were. Every single player

470
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 1: knows where their weaknesses are and knows that they.

471
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Speaker 2: Need to improve on them all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes greats great. You know,

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Speaker 1: Novak has improved so much over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: His forehand is so much more it his foyand to

475
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Speaker 1: me is better than his backhand in some respects. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: everyone talks about how great his backhand is, but his

477
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: foehand is unbelievable, Like he's put extra.

478
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Speaker 2: Spin on it.

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Speaker 1: He never misses it now under pressure. His serve is

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Speaker 1: I mean, his spot serves as well as anybody that's

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Speaker 1: ever served. I think the biggest issue is like he

482
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Speaker 1: can hit the spot bom you know, and you think

483
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Speaker 1: Novak's not a big server. No one ever talks about

484
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Speaker 1: novak serve. They always talk about, you know, the big

485
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Speaker 1: but his serve is unbelievable and so guy never gets broken.

486
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Speaker 2: So for me, he's improved so much.

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Speaker 1: His volleys have improved out rageously over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: And he comes into the net now he knows when

489
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Speaker 1: to have come forward. Greats know where to improve their

490
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Speaker 1: game and where they need to get better. And there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that Rougher and Ride made Novak better. And

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Speaker 1: now I think the Sinners and the Runas and you know,

493
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Speaker 1: all these and the Alcorazes have made Novak even better

494
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Speaker 1: knowing what he needs to get better at to beat

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Speaker 1: these young guys.

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Speaker 3: We're reaching my capacity for talking about Novak as great

497
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Speaker 3: as his game as let's talk about Una a little bit,

498
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Speaker 3: and then I want to talk about the American man.

499
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Speaker 3: Runa to me, has the farthest to go from where

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Speaker 3: I think he can, not to say that I think

501
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: his peak is the highest, maybe, but just more like

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're just at the beginning with Runa,

503
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Speaker 3: whereas Alcaraz and Sinner, who are both sort of in

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Speaker 3: his same age cohort, have maybe arrived a little bit

505
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Speaker 3: they have ahead of him. Whereas to me, Runa, it's

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Speaker 3: it's going to be really exciting, especially with Boris, whom

507
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Speaker 3: we all love on my bag for him in a

508
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Speaker 3: way that I think will hopefully bring out what you know,

509
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Speaker 3: the next sort of chunk of potential, if not all

510
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Speaker 3: of his potential.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question that having Boris is going to

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Speaker 1: be a huge help for Runa. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: he got rid of certain other coaches that will remain nameless,

514
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Speaker 1: but I think having there's no question having Boris is

515
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Speaker 1: going to help him manage his emotions, figure out game plans,

516
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Speaker 1: better know when to pull the trigger, nobody needs to

517
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Speaker 1: work on. His volleys will get better with Boris, His

518
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Speaker 1: forward movement will get better with Boris, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that you know, someone that came into the net all

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Speaker 1: the time, like Boris, you understand when to come in,

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Speaker 1: what to come in on, all that sort of stuff.

522
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Speaker 1: And that's the area that Alcoraz does better than anyone

523
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Speaker 1: and Novak is that they know when to come into

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Speaker 1: the net and they're very capable at the net, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a difference maker between a lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys. It's an area that Sinner will get better

527
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Speaker 1: at as well with Darren because Darren was a net player,

528
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Speaker 1: and he'll know how to come into the net, what

529
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Speaker 1: to come into the net on, you know what volley

530
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Speaker 1: to hit. You know, it's funny that people go, well,

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Speaker 1: how do they not know? You don't know if you

532
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: don't do it a lot. You don't know what shot

533
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Speaker 1: to come in on. Sometimes you don't know the volley

534
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Speaker 1: that you could possibly hit. You don't know how to

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Speaker 1: improve that technique on the volley. So I think that's

536
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Speaker 1: all areas that Runa will improve on a tremendous amount

537
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Speaker 1: with Boris, as well as the emotional side it because

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Speaker 1: Runa is very emotional. He's emotional like Alcaraz in a

539
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Speaker 1: lot of ways because Alchoriz.

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Speaker 2: But Alchorz smiles through his toughness.

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Speaker 1: I mean he has these moments as well, but Runa

542
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: gets very hyper and very anxious looking, and I think

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Speaker 1: Boris will help him in that department. So I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to all these young guys.

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Speaker 3: Is wearing his shorts very short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that you like the short shots.

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Speaker 3: I do. I really wive.

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Speaker 1: We've been carolling this for this for a while. We

549
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Speaker 1: want all the manufacturers to shorten the shorts.

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Speaker 2: On the guys.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't know what it's going to take, and

552
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: coming from two gay girls, but we just want to

553
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: see a little leg.

554
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Speaker 2: We want to see a little muscle, is what we.

555
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Speaker 3: Want to see a little more leg. Can we talk

556
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Speaker 3: about Boris for a second, Okay, sure we can. We

557
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: can speed through this, but it needs to be noted

558
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Speaker 3: that Boris is currently in a decently epic war of

559
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Speaker 3: words with Nick Curios.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nic Curius is you know, not shy about going after

562
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Speaker 3: kind of whomever. And the reason I like this particular

563
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: conflict it's for tet tit for tat, is because it

564
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Speaker 3: elucidates something that I feel like we have to sort

565
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: of dig into as people who talk about the game,

566
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Speaker 3: people who love the game. You know, the old guard

567
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: versus the new who would win, who's better? Blah blah,

568
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: because Nick's premise is basically like, oh, these old guys,

569
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 3: they wouldn't stand a chance, which, like I'm less interested

570
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: in that argument because it's stupid. It's stupid and will

571
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: full stop. That's all we can say, Like dumb, cool,

572
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: go play five sets against bjorn Borg with a wooden racket. Yeah,

573
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: try to the lass Boris Becker at the net where

574
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: when you're both playing with you know, Donne's made from

575
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Speaker 3: a fucking two buy four, you know, like okay, cool,

576
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: like talk your talk whatever. If you don't have your

577
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: nylon strings and your oversized racket heead and you're you know, you're.

578
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: Bailey winning wearing grass court shoes on grass because you

579
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Speaker 1: just wear that herring bone hoping to stay upright.

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Speaker 3: Exactly Like anybody who's ever tried to play a legend

581
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: knows there's just an insane level of skill that you're

582
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: not fully appreciating on TV because you know, also the

583
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: TV was really greeny, Like even if you go back

584
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: and watch the YouTube.

585
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Bottom line is Caitlin every decade every sport, every player,

586
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: they all get better. They get faster, they have better technique,

587
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: they have better technology, they have better nutrition, they have

588
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: physios with them all the time. They aren't going out

589
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: to two in the morning and having a few too

590
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: many drinks and then playing the next day. Like, every

591
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: single era gets better, every ear gets more professional. You

592
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: cannot compare the ears. It's just fucking dumb.

593
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: It's also really dumb. And I'm tempted to bring in

594
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Speaker 3: like a non tennis reference, like you want to tell

595
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Speaker 3: me Jim Thorpe, a pert indigenous person who ran track

596
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: and was one of the you know, greatest athletes of

597
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Speaker 3: all time. You plunk that guy in any sport right

598
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: now with all the technology and tools and mental training

599
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: and equipment, and they would he wouldn't dominate. It's just

600
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Speaker 3: what's the point of this, especially coming from Nick carry

601
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: else where?

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Speaker 1: You're just kind of like you even playing. The reason

603
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Speaker 1: why Nick isn't playing it is because he's injured.

604
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: And why why is he injured?

605
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: Because the guy didn't invest in himself for the you know,

606
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: five six seven, I don't know how long he's been

607
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: playing professionally in taking care of his body. He barely

608
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: gets in the gym. I mean he started to when

609
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: he had that great run and got to the finals.

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00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Shape and he was working hard. It was putting, you know,

611
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: getting all his shit done. But like Nick, like you

612
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: didn't invest in yourself in the gym, you know, having

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Speaker 1: a physio with you. I mean he had a physio

614
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: with him for the last few years, but like having

615
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: a fitness trainer with you. You didn't have a coach,

616
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: like all the things that all the professional athletes and

617
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: tennis players have done. And you can say, oh, I

618
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: made a final of Wimbledon basically with nobody with no training.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's not something to be proud of.

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00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: And that's not true because you were in shape when

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Speaker 1: you made the finals in Wimbledon. So everything since then

622
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: and before then you didn't invest in yourself and then

623
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: therefore your body.

624
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: Is breaking down. Duh.

625
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: It's because tennis is a really fucking hard sport to play, physics,

626
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: and if you don't invest in yourself and take care

627
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: of your body, it will betray you. And that's what's

628
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: happening right now. So stop comparing greats. You're not a great.

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Speaker 1: If you were a great and one twenty. If Novak

630
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: had said, they wouldn't have you know what, Novak would

631
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: never say that about a Rod Laver or Pete Sampress

632
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: because the greats respect each other because.

633
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: They've been there and they know right, and somebody was

634
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: you know. So this has gone on and back and

635
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: forth and the two of them, and you know, Boris

636
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: has been like, stick to your OnlyFans, and Nick is like,

637
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: I sell more tickets than you do, and it's kind

638
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: of like he's, you know, arguing that he's brother new

639
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: fans in the sport, which yeah, great, and that's what

640
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: a lot of us like about him. On the other hand,

641
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, you can't sell tickets when you don't play. Yeah,

642
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: so I just sort of want to say, like, hey,

643
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: we're excited to watch everyone play tennis, and if you're

644
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: not up for playing tennis, maybe you know, quit the

645
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: jibber jabber and don't go after Boris.

646
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: Well, don't go after Boris Boris. I mean, I don't

647
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: understand Nick. Nick probably don't doesn't remembyes too young. How

648
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: great Boris Becker.

649
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Speaker 3: Was, I don't know that he is, and how popular

650
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: he was. I think a lot of these young guys

651
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: don't know their history. That's more the issue.

652
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't really not, No, some of them don't.

653
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Most of them do, which is why they don't give

654
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Speaker 1: Boris Becker shit about anything, or any era about anything.

655
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: So let's just drop that.

656
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to Boris making a huge difference

657
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: for Runa. Me too.

658
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: I would love to see Runa come in tomorrow of

659
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: his potential. Have we talked about the that enough we have?

660
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: I just want to throw out a little thing. Ben Shelton,

661
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: American Tennis. I think you know. One of the things

662
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: about Ben that I think that Ben has probably the

663
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: best chance to win a Grand Slam. And I probably

664
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't have said that a year ago.

665
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: More than tylor Fred, more than Francis.

666
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Yes, because I think he has the hotspot to believe

667
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: that he can, and I think he has the weapons.

668
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: He has the serve, clearly, he has the forehand.

669
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: When Alcarez says he's never played against the guy that

670
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: hits the ball harder, I believe him. I think that

671
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: he has the tools, and I think now he has

672
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the belief in himself. You know, winning a Grand Slam

673
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: over best of five sets, seven matches is a whole

674
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: different ballgame.

675
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: But I actually think that he has the potential to

676
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: do it.

677
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: I think he has more potential than any of the

678
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: other American guys, and not because I don't think they're capable,

679
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: But to win seven matches again over five sets is

680
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: a very different is a tall task. Taylor loses his

681
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: shit too much in five sets. He's got to bring

682
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: that down, you know, Francis, you know he's been struggling

683
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: now for the last six months. He's got to get

684
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: himself in order if he wants to win seven matches

685
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: and Tommy Paul over five sets, seven matches against the greats,

686
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do, to tell. So I just

687
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: think Ben has the ability to be able to do it,

688
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: and I think he has the weapon. So I'm looking

689
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what he can do this year.

690
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: This is his sophomore year, and Australia is where he

691
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: had his first real big run, and.

692
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: He struggled after that.

693
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: He didn't barely won two matches in a row until

694
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: he made a great run again at the US Open

695
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: and so and then he and then I think he

696
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: learned a lot about himself there and then I think

697
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: he went on then to play a great four, So

698
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I think he learned to sort of, you know, shut

699
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: up with the put the phone down. I think he

700
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: decided to sort of put that aside. He was getting

701
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: too much negativity around that, and he's just going out

702
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: and winning matches now and I think he's a real

703
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: threat going forward in any Grand Slam.

704
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: So all right, well, you're welcome, men, you're welcome. He's

705
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: the most we've talked about you probably ever, Yeah, probably

706
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: ever and ever will again.

707
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Let's get to the chicky babes. Let's start with Eger.

708
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: Is that an Australian as I'm again.

709
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Chikibabe, Yeah, chikybabe, listen eager. I'm looking forward to I

710
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: think he's going to have I think Eger's going to

711
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: have a great year. I think he's going to have

712
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: a better year last next year. Then she's had ever

713
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and that's a big statement because when thirty seven matches

714
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: in a row, it is really hard to do. I

715
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen again, but I do

716
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: think that she would have learned so much about herself

717
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: this year with coming back. Listen, she was she was

718
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: overwhelmed at the start of the year. I know that

719
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: after this train open after she lost, had a conversation

720
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: with her, and look, I think she was so worried

721
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: about all the points that she had to defend, and

722
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: how am I going to play thirty How am I

723
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: going to win thirty seven matches in a row again?

724
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: And how am I going to have that kind of

725
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: year again?

726
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: And I think it overwhelmed her and I think it

727
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: got to her, and I think she learned a lot

728
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: about herself in twenty twenty three is that, oh, I

729
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: might not have the greatest run again and win all

730
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: these tournaments again like it did last year and.

731
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: I didn't die.

732
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to be okay.

733
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: So how am I going to approach twenty twenty four.

734
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into twenty four like I did,

735
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: knowing the down would slide I could have. I also

736
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: know how to win thirty seven matches in a row.

737
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: What have I learned about myself in twenty twenty three

738
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: is that I don't need to panic if I don't

739
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: win everything.

740
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: And I think that she's.

741
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Gotten maybe into a into a better mind frame matching

742
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: a match out to not panic too much about the

743
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. So I think that she's going into

744
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, having learned so much about herself in

745
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: the last three years, about what it takes and what

746
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: is not, what she should do, which is panic and

747
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: know how to play these big hitters, know how to

748
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: step up on a faster court and learn a little

749
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: bit more about herself, and she knows how she's going

750
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: to win the French Open again.

751
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I think of all the.

752
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Players, who's going to win a Grand Slam next year?

753
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: That won one this year, Marquette, Saberlenka, girl and Coco,

754
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: all of them are going to Who's going to win

755
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: next year?

756
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 2: Who's going to repeat that next year?

757
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: Well, Sablenka should have won at least one other one.

758
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, but that was a that was a circumstantial Listen,

759
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: is it?

760
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Circumstances are part of tennis.

761
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Of course, you can't handle the crowd at the US

762
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Open if you lose your shit at the French Open

763
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: up five to one? Was it five to one in

764
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: the third against Muhova, Like, you've got to be able

765
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: to control yourself and manage those mind for sure.

766
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: But actually the reason I'm actually banking on Sablenka to

767
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: do it is because, in my view, just like you're

768
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: talking about with ego freaking out and you know, learning

769
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: some equanimity in the toughest of moments. I think, uh,

770
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: Sabolenka overcame the stupidest, hardest, dumbest thing that can possibly

771
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: happen to an athlete, which is getting the yips on

772
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: something routine like your serf like to me, that fortitude

773
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: and just still sort of getting through it. I'm not

774
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: sure that she's an intellectual. I'm not sure that she's

775
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot inward when she's meditating and looking.

776
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: But I do think that she's confronted some hard things,

777
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: and my hope is that being in the position to

778
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: win certainly one one Grand Slam final, that she probably

779
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: should have won. Nothing against Coco whatsoever. I think everybody

780
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: preferred outcome outside of you know, Sabolenka, Sabalanka herself, and

781
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: maybe Dve Portnoy from Barstoel Sports, was that Coco was

782
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: gonna win. But I think, you know, Sebalinka should have

783
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: won that match, and she probably should have won at

784
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: least the SAMMI against Mcova and the friend. I'm not

785
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: so to me, I think she's come closest and she's

786
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: beaten some interior demons that might prove possible because she

787
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: certainly to me, has the most upset of all the

788
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: other players.

789
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: I think she's going into the Austrain Open feeling great

790
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: because it's a tournament that she loves to play, and

791
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: she clearly knows going into it that she can win

792
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: the tournament. So I think she's absolutely on equal footing

793
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: to eager to win the tournament as far as favorites,

794
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: there's no question about that to me. But she does

795
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: have and I call it scar tissue on her brain

796
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: about the losses that she had this particular last year

797
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. You know that lost to Muhova,

798
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: the lost to Coco, that's scarte issue. So you have

799
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: to chip away at that. I say, if she can

800
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: chip away at it, like she tend to open with

801
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: the servant yips and she handled.

802
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: It before this. She had never gotten past to Sammy

803
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: yep before that this past year, So I do think

804
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: she's somebody who just like beasts her way through it.

805
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, if she can chip away at that scar tissue

806
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: and not let it affect her in the big matches

807
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: going forward, then there's no question that she can win one,

808
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: if not two.

809
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: If not three Grand Slams next year, There's no question

810
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: of it.

811
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: She's certainly more fun.

812
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: She she's a lot of fun. You know.

813
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Look, Rebekina a lot of injuries in twenty twenty three.

814
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: If she can get herself, you know, injury free a

815
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit like our Karaz, then she absolutely has the

816
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: game to win any on any surface except maybe clay,

817
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: and so she has right in Australia if she's emotionally and.

818
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Physically ready to go.

819
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: Jessica Bagoula, you know, has to prove herself by getting

820
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: past that quarter final. Talk about scar tissue, oh my god.

821
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: But if she can break through that quarterfinal, I really

822
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: think that she can win a Slam if she can

823
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: break through that final, like that quarter final, because it

824
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not comparing myself to a singles player

825
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: getting through this, but I went through a period I

826
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: think it was like six or seven quarter finals myself

827
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: in doubles, and once I broke through that quarter final,

828
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: then it was just like, oh okay, I'm good, Like

829
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: let's go. And I almost won the my first Grand

830
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Slam by doing that, lost in the finals.

831
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: It's open.

832
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: It's about belief, right, It's about belief.

833
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: And once you break through that and then you and

834
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: she knows she can beat any of those players playing

835
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: on to us. So when you know you can beat

836
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: any of the players playing on tour, then you know

837
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: you can win a Grand Slam.

838
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: And that's key.

839
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: And so if Jess can break through the quarters, I

840
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: think that she can win a Grand Slam. But she's

841
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: got to break through that quarter final and she should

842
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: have done it. Talk about should have cut a wud,

843
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, come on up four to one points for

844
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: five to one against Vondrosova and you know Makete goes

845
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: on to win the tournament. That's that's a match that

846
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: definitely mentally would fuck with you.

847
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: I actually think Jess Piccola is most likely to win Wimbledon.

848
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that's what she has won, possibly.

849
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: Like because of the Vondrosova match, but also just because

850
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: she's pure ball streaking.

851
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: You know, she can win on any surface.

852
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: She can look the French no chance, and she'll be

853
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: the first to probably admit that. Although she had a

854
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: great couple of tournaments.

855
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: On clay last year, let's talk about.

856
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: And Kerba coming coming back.

857
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: I mean, Kerber coming back is great. I can't imagine

858
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: just because she's a little bit older. And I think

859
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: her peak is lower. Love Kerber, love the angles, love

860
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: the Crouch, love the Lefty, But I.

861
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: She loves Australia.

862
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: I yes, it's to me more dynamic to think of

863
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: what Naomi has in store for us.

864
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll tell you what. Seeing Naomi practice the other

865
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: day on her Instagram, Holy shit balls. And yes, she's

866
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: so young still, much like how kim Clesis came back

867
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: at a very early age after having kid dominated after

868
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: that that's really where she had her best results. Because

869
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: and I think for Naomi, if the game is and

870
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: physically she's able to go, look out because I wouldn't

871
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: have said no chance at the Ustrain Open, Like she's

872
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: got to have time to get me.

873
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, like if she gets her teeth.

874
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Talk about somebody who knows how to win a Grand Slam.

875
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: She's won four of them, so she's coming.

876
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: She did it in a pretty quick order.

877
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: And Australia is her favorite.

878
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: My thing about Naomi is just the belief, because I

879
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: think it got really sad watching her the last couple

880
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: of years be sad, and.

881
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Well, I think, listen, I have to imagine she's gonna

882
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: have to mentally adjust her brain, and I think she

883
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: has already. I think having a kid, you realize they're

884
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: a way as you know, Caitlin, there are way bigger

885
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: fucking things in life to stress about, for sure, Like

886
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: is my kid breathing? It's my kid eating? Is my

887
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: kid sick? Where's my kid? You're not thinking about?

888
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: Oh h shit.

889
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: If I lose this match, the press is going to

890
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: come after me. I'm like, listen, say what you want

891
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: about me. I'm going back to my kid, who loves

892
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: me unconditionally and who needs me. So I think her,

893
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: I think things that will help her in a lot

894
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: of ways be a little bit more adjusted to the

895
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: heis and lows. So I think Nate look out. I

896
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: think Naomi's going to be I think Naomi's has a

897
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: real passion again for the game. She wrote that nice

898
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: little thing on her Instagram about thanking your fans of

899
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: being patient.

900
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: I think she's going to be really hard to beat.

901
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: I really do.

902
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said that a month ago, but watching

903
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: her training a little bit. I know it's only one

904
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: video that we got, but fuck it looked good.

905
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: I also think there could be like a little psychological

906
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: warfare at play, like Kylos Moya tucking up Nadal, the

907
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: Naomi team releasing videos. You know, there is.

908
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Something a little like we're coming for you people.

909
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, don't get complecent, We're coming back.

910
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Now, moveover.

911
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: I just want to throw her in there. What the

912
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: talk about somebody who can't get it right with injuries?

913
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah she could.

914
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: She's a perennial top tenor. She should be winning Grand Slam.

915
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: She has a game to do all of it on

916
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: any surface.

917
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: For me, even without a one hitter back end, which

918
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: she should have. She has the prettiest game, the best game.

919
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: On to it by far. I love watching, he replies.

920
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: Tools, most versatility, What an incredible athlete.

921
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: But the wrist injury, man having surgery and ship that's

922
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: like bad, that's bad. She's just had bad injury for tennis.

923
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Great run and then boom and the injuries and then

924
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: okay back and then injured again.

925
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

926
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to just quickly throw in your favorite player.

927
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: Who's my fishe chen one?

928
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did I say it right?

929
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: You're sounding like you actually are pronouncing chin yeah, junk

930
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: junk jung chin one.

931
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: That's because you speak cantones.

932
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: I don't speak cantony.

933
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: I speak what do you speak?

934
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: And little Mandarin? Not? Great?

935
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I can hear you.

936
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: Great, I can hear you. You know. You know who

937
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: couldn't hear each other? The people who were recording the

938
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: first two chunks of this podcast in New York City

939
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: together because our memory cards kept running out of batteries.

940
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: So here we have time span. You're into twenty four.

941
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm in twenty twenty three finale for a year preview podcasts.

942
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: Since you're already in twenty twenty four, Rene, I want

943
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: you to tell us what you see because right here

944
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: in New York, I'm just having a beer in my

945
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: apartment and it's still twenty twenty three, so I can't

946
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: see it around.

947
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know i'd flick you around. I'm going

948
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: to flick you around. Our viewers and our listeners, well,

949
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: our listeners, we don't have viewers yet. Our listeners can't

950
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: see what I can see as well. I'm sitting here

951
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: at Clovelly Beach in Sydney and I've had news already here,

952
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: so it's a little weird that I'm already in twenty

953
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: twenty four. You still are not in twenty twenty four.

954
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: But yes, we have extended this podcast because of the

955
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: fact that the two of us we did have a

956
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: bit of trouble finishing this podcast back in the day,

957
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: but we're going to finish it today. Well, we do

958
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: have some things to report.

959
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: That's right, and everything we talked about is still relevant,

960
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: which is looking for to this year. And like a

961
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: lot of things around this time of year, you know,

962
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: it really sneaks up on you. It doesn't last Suday

963
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: we could record together. You were flying off back home

964
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: to Australia and I was trying to get presents for everybody,

965
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: you know, So this is just what happened around this

966
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: time of year. The good news is now we have

967
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: actually completed our look at the men's field and the

968
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: women's field. We do have a bit of an update

969
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: about one of the athletes we talked about, that is

970
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: Carolyne and Mukova. We were talking about how amazing she

971
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: is probably the best all around player on the women's tour,

972
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: and now she has yet another injury.

973
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Well it's the same injury, it's just not recovered. She

974
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: had the risk surgery, which I was to be quite honest,

975
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: with you, a little surprised that she was coming back

976
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: to play this early, because quite honestly, it's just it's

977
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: a devastating injury for a tennis player. I know myself,

978
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: I had a wrist injury and I was out seven

979
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: months with that risk injury back when I was doing

980
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: quite well in singles. It really kind of ruined my

981
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: singles career, to be quite honest with you. So I

982
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: feel badly for I know that she's just one of

983
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: these players that just keeps getting injured. She's kind of

984
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: like the Del Potro of the women's tour. But you know,

985
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: let's hope that she can get back and get back

986
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: to the form that she showed in twenty twenty three

987
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty four, because it's just it's a shame

988
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: what's happening to her, because, as you said, one of

989
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: my favorite, if not my favorite women's player to watch,

990
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: just because of her ability around the court. But sadly

991
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: she won't be in Australia, so we send her all

992
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: our best. But look, we've got a couple of upsets

993
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: already early in the United Cup, with Katie Boulder beating

994
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Jess Kapagoula and a really great three set match the

995
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: other day. So it's all happening already. Tennis has started

996
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: down here in Australia and I can't wait for it

997
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: to begin. And as I said, it's already started down

998
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: here in the great country of Australia, in the.

999
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: Greek country of Australia and Australian Summer. Two matches that

1000
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: I took notice of Jasmine Paulini a nice win against

1001
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: Njinan Kerber, who comes back after having a little one,

1002
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: and Naomi Osaka as we speak, is taking the court

1003
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: right now, so it'll be interesting to see how she fares.

1004
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: But I mean, for me, just the lack of time

1005
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: to get any kind of emotional catharsis before you're already

1006
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: thrust into the play. It's like so jarring. Don't get

1007
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: me wrong, I love having tennis on my TV at

1008
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 3: all times. Like it seems like any time of year,

1009
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: any day of year, whether it's the Challenger Tour or

1010
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: some exhibition or anything like, there's just really not really

1011
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: even a day off. And I feel like that was

1012
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: especially true this year. I was watching you know, Arena

1013
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: Seblingk and on Super Play Christmas night. It was in

1014
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: Saudi twenty sixth, the boxing day, but like just you know,

1015
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: there really hasn't been a break at all, and so

1016
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: for me it's just more like.

1017
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: I would say, especially for the man, I feel like,

1018
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Nobek's you know, gonna take the court we

1019
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: all want. I wanted to say. I did watch Rapa

1020
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: plays doubles. Yes, today he looks fit and healthy and happy.

1021
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: He didn't get the win, but it had a tough

1022
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: doubles match against Max Purcell and Jordan Thompson, both very

1023
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: good ossie doubles players that play quite a bit together.

1024
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: And let's face it, Rauffa was playing with forty one

1025
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: year old essentially hitting partner, his old doubles partner in

1026
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Mark Lopez, who's a look at a little slow out there. Yeah,

1027
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't his sprightly self. So I would say that

1028
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: ruff would be pretty happy with just getting one match

1029
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: under his belt. And of course he goes into playing

1030
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: qualifier dominic team in the first round in Brisbane, so

1031
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: it'll be awesome to see those two going at it.

1032
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: But Ruffa looked happy, looked healthy, and just a little

1033
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: thing on Angie Kerber. I did notice after the match

1034
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: when she did lose to Paolini, she looked happy, you

1035
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. She shook hands and Angie Kober

1036
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: is not that type of person that usually shakes hands

1037
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: and smiles and looks pretty happy. So I think she's

1038
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of adjusted to the fact that she probably feels

1039
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: good about being back on the court, being back on tour.

1040
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Very different perspective now being a mom, as Naomi Osaka's

1041
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: talked about already, pres she feels very differently being a mom.

1042
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Life has changed and as you know, Caitlin, you know

1043
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: when you have a kid, sort of things change in

1044
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: your life very quickly. So it's nice to see them

1045
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: back out there playing. All of them look good, all

1046
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: of them look healthy. So nice to see Rafa, Angie

1047
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: and of course Naomi Asaka back. But we'll see how

1048
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: they go the Australian Open, because that's really the big test,

1049
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: particularly for Rafa and best of five sets. I think

1050
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: for the girls it's a little different when they're playing

1051
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: best of three and I think, you know, Angie look

1052
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: fit and healthy and happy and worn on the street.

1053
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: Is that her coach, who was longtime coach and Torben Belts,

1054
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: he said that she's looking really good and really likes

1055
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: her chances to do well in her comeback. So we'll

1056
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: see was Aniaki so of thrown down the gortonland of

1057
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: playing well and Switzerlina obviously coming back as well. So

1058
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: we've got four really terrific mums, you know, going to

1059
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: go battle at the U Straight Open. So let's hope

1060
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: that I play each other in the first round.

1061
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: Let's talk about not playing each other in the first round,

1062
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: like Rafa's got dominic team, which is a rematch of

1063
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: a French Open finer, which is crazy, that's the first round.

1064
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: But I do think like a little shout out to

1065
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: the parents, especially the moms who have had children in

1066
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: their bodies, because getting those bodies back into fight and

1067
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: form is no small feet. But I do think like

1068
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: there is a little bit of a parent perspective there,

1069
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: if I may, which is just sort of an energy

1070
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm bringing into twenty twenty four. I don't know if

1071
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: you want to embrace this kind of energy, but something

1072
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: tells me you might, which is when you get to

1073
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: be a parent, you're just kind of like, you know what,

1074
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: let them like, people want to talk shit, let them

1075
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: people want to come at me, let them people want

1076
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: to do whatever. They're doing, let them. You know, Anngie

1077
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Kerber my favorite, which is when you said she wasn't

1078
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: known for put a big smile on her face and

1079
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 3: shaking hands after a loss. I can remember a few

1080
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: frosty moments with Anngie Kerber at the net. And you know,

1081
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: Nami Osaka certainly had her share of kind of talking

1082
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: about some haters through the years. And I think, you know,

1083
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: one of the things I would like to see both

1084
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: of them in their comebacks just you know, let them

1085
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: just do what you're gonna do, care business, go home,

1086
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: see your kid. Anybody else wants to do whatever they're going.

1087
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: To do them Yeah, I mean you can't. I mean,

1088
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, you get so caught up in your own

1089
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: BS right and importance, and then all of a sudden

1090
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: you realize, oh wait, I'm going to keep that kid alive.

1091
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1092
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: I was talking to my best friend the other day about,

1093
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, when she had her first kid, and she

1094
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: said that the only thing she worried about once it

1095
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: was born was I'm going to keep this kid alive?

1096
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: How am I going to keep this kid alive?

1097
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: You know?

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00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: So, so I think their perspectives as far as being

1099
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: a tennis player are very different now in knowing that

1100
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: there are way more important things in the world and

1101
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: in life than winning and losing a tennis match and

1102
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: caring about what the public say and what a person

1103
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: in the press room says.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite practices that my wife Claire has started,

1105
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: and I would love for us to end this very

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00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: special time spanning, multi continental episode, perhaps the first episode

1107
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: of the new year, the last episode of the past year.

1108
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: Who can say, instead of making resolutions my wife makes,

1109
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: she'd livers resolutions for other people. You should say something like,

1110
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: I would really like for you to not leave the

1111
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: dinner table until everyone's finished eating to me, because I like,

1112
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm a little neurotic and I start tidying already. For example,

1113
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: I told my son I would like for him to

1114
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 3: stop screaming when any button or any beeping sound happens

1115
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: in the entire apartment, and he's like ready to run

1116
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: for the hills. So if you could make some resolutions

1117
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: for other people, for people in the tennis space, maybe

1118
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: they're players, maybe they're governing bodies, you know, in the

1119
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: spirit of let them people are gonna do what they're

1120
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: gonna do. But I feel like this they're in a

1121
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: Stubsentis podcast. Should have a few resolutions for our tennis

1122
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: folks as we, you know, clear out the energy of

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00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three and make way for the energy of

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00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I'll start, Hey, what a great time

1125
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: it would be for the tours to really get it together.

1126
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm not here to talk any smack. We talked plenty

1127
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: this year. There's new leadership, there's changes, especially on the

1128
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: WTA side. What a good time to get it together

1129
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: tours and figure yourself out and figure out how to cooperate.

1130
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: That's just one that's type of mind that feels a

1131
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: little a political at this point. But over to you.

1132
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: Any anything that's rumbling around in your mind is a

1133
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 3: resolution for others.

1134
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I think you've already touched on it.

1135
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: We have our thought processes when it comes to the

1136
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: tours and the leadership of those tours. I would like

1137
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: to see the year of the Olympic Games not have

1138
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Davis Cup or Billy Jean king Cup. I think that

1139
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: needs to go. The year of the Olympics. I think

1140
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: we have way too many weeks in schedule and I

1141
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of players feel really as they should,

1142
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: as I did, really responsible of playing for their countries

1143
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: and representing their countries, and they take a lot of

1144
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: pride in that. And I think that, you know, when

1145
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the Olympic gear is on, I think that we should

1146
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: probably scrap the Davis Cup and Billy Jean King Cup

1147
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: because I think that would really help in the weeks

1148
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: and the calendar being already really long for those players,

1149
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: especially when you're thinking about the really great players that

1150
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: are playing six, five, six matches every single week to

1151
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: win tournaments, or four or five matches to win them.

1152
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: So that one yes, tours need to get there. You

1153
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: know what, together the leadership and the WTA gone get

1154
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: some new blood in there. The last thing I would

1155
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: like to see, speaking of haters, I would like to

1156
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: see people calm the farm when it comes to abusing

1157
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: people online on the tennis Twitter okay, or on the

1158
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: X or whatever. I would like to everyone appreciate their champions,

1159
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: appreciate their great players, you know, praise them all you want.

1160
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: But when it comes to your people that aren't your favorites,

1161
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: you don't have to trash them, Okay, you can just

1162
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: leave that alone. Be nice about your player and not

1163
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: go after these other players you don't know them personally, Like,

1164
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: calm the farm a little bit, right, if you tweet

1165
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: something that's really aggressive, just put the phone down.

1166
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: Just look at you what a This is what growth

1167
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: looks like, gentlemen. This is real growth. And I probably

1168
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: have been guilty about poping off in the past myself,

1169
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 3: and I'm going to take that a base and calm

1170
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: the phe because one of the best things is I

1171
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: was reminded watching some of these exos and seeing some

1172
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: of my favorite players come back to Team is coming

1173
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: back and Curb is coming back, News is coming back.

1174
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: You know, Like, I love tennis because I love how

1175
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: many different players I love, you know what I mean,

1176
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: There's so many players to love. There's so many styles

1177
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: to love. There are so many moments and matchups and

1178
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: situations to love, and that to me is like the

1179
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: most fun thing about tennis. You can't have the same

1180
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: match twice, even if it's the same two players or

1181
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: same four players in the same place in the same tournament.

1182
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: It's just there's no there's no account for what happens

1183
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: on the court, and it's all magical. And there's so

1184
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: many players that I love, and that's really what I'm

1185
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: gonna be excited about. I'm already excited about it now,

1186
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 3: so that's for me. Like the good note, So calm

1187
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: the farm. Everybody wants to wile out let them and

1188
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: we're going into the twenty four with a lot of

1189
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: I think positive energy. I feel really resolved.

1190
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: How do you feel, Yeah, I feel good. We our

1191
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: fashion connoisseur, our fashion attache andreve Pekevich and I will

1192
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: hopefully We're not going to say we didn't gonna do

1193
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: it every your time because it's based on our schedule,

1194
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: but we would. We are going to try and facilitate

1195
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: a little ten to fifteen minute update every day in

1196
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Melbourne on the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast. We'll get it

1197
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: out to you. We're going to film it, we're going

1198
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: to get it out to you. Sadly, Caitlin is not

1199
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: going to be in Melbourne, but Petco will be, So

1200
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: we're going to get a little bit of love out

1201
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: to you guys on a daily basis and give you

1202
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: a little just to look into what happened at the

1203
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: estral Ipurn every single day. So I hope everybody enjoys that.

1204
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: When we get to it in the meantime.

1205
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: Now I sat it out on the old you gotta

1206
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: do it.

1207
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: I got to do it now. But I tell you no,

1208
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: Petko's already. She's already texted me and said we're going

1209
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: to do this, and I said, Yep, we're going to

1210
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: do it. So another thing just to add I did

1211
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: put out on the old Socials that I really appreciate

1212
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: everyone because I know you, Caitlin will be one of

1213
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: these people that we'll be watching us on ESPN. I

1214
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: believe it's on ESPN two through the whole entire tournament,

1215
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: our numbers, we will be live. I know it's really

1216
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: early in the morning for everybody, et cetera, et cetera,

1217
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: but we do appreciate you getting up and watching it

1218
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: live with us, because it's going to be impossible not

1219
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: to know those results the next day if you put

1220
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: a hand on a phone and you turn it over

1221
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: if you're a tennis enthusiast, because you'll know the results.

1222
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: So we appreciate everyone getting up early in the mornings

1223
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff to watch ESPN's coverage

1224
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: and we are all going to be down there. We

1225
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: are missing Chrissy Ebert obviously going through her treatments once again,

1226
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: so we send her all our best and thankfully she

1227
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: caught it early enough, so hopefully she's going to be

1228
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: all good. But we are very grateful to hear that.

1229
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: But she will be the only one on our talent

1230
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: roster that won't be down in Melbourne. So we were

1231
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: going to be bringing you all the live love of

1232
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Tennis to your screens at ESPN, so hopefully everyone will

1233
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: join us on that. But in the meantime, Happy New Year, everybody,

1234
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Caitlin new an hour or so away, are you not?

1235
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm three and a half hours away from New Year's

1236
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: and I am probably an hour and a half away

1237
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: from bed, So that's really how I like to We've

1238
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: already sell a rid of the countdown London's. Uh, you know,

1239
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 3: when you're a parent, speaking of you to, you tend

1240
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: to tune into the seven pm London midnight broadcast. At

1241
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: least you were on the East coast. They did an

1242
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: incredible job. Can't imagine New York topping that. So I'm

1243
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: not gonna stick around to find out, but I do

1244
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: feel particularly.

1245
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: Great celebrations come on our Sydney. Let's not Let's just

1246
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: make them understand, to make a blanket excitement. No, Sydney

1247
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Harbor has the best fireworks in the world, and I

1248
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: will not hear you say anything differently.

1249
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: No, China invented fireworks. They put on a great show.

1250
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: I will say that London's was particularly good because they

1251
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 3: had a musical medley involving heavily.

1252
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: Involved Did you watch Sydney.

1253
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: Yes, they I turned on CNN and they're just playing

1254
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: all of them. So I watched Sydney sin It is

1255
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: very good. It's a beautiful backdrop. But the musical medley

1256
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: that London put on was they had fat boys, slim,

1257
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: they had massive attack, they had the spice girls, they

1258
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: had do a lipa. It was a real the music.

1259
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's what got you.

1260
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: They do a.

1261
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: Gotcha? All right, everybody, all right.

1262
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. Thank you for listening the entire year.

1263
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: Thank you so much to everyone who came out and

1264
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: packed the joint for our live podcast. You heard it here.

1265
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: So now Renee has to do it recording and I

1266
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: have to edit it and produce it unless I can

1267
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: come up with somebody else to labor on that effort,

1268
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: which maybe I will. You're going to hear a very

1269
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: very regular podcast from Australia, and if there's anything you

1270
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: and I need to check in on before that, let's

1271
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: make time to do it, even in our very different

1272
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: time zone.

1273
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: Sung good sounds good, and anybody who wants to write

1274
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: us on X as a positive let us know what

1275
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: you want to hear and we'll hear from you in

1276
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We appreciate all your support of twenty

1277
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: twenty three. Have a great year everyone, and here's to

1278
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: a great Tennesse season in twenty twenty four. Caitlin, my friend. Okay, bye,

1279
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: bye bye,