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Speaker 1: Also media, it's it's chaos in Congress.

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Speaker 2: This is this is it could happen here in the

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Speaker 2: podcast about things falling apart, and just this is aest

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Speaker 2: a falling apart episode with though it's a kind of

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Speaker 2: funny one. Yeah, I'm your host, Mia Wong and with

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Speaker 2: me is Garrison Davis. Hello.

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Speaker 3: Chaos every everywhere, but especially in Congress.

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Speaker 2: So I just realized you grew up in Canada, which

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Speaker 2: means I did. Can can you explain what the speaker that?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what the Speaker of the House is

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Speaker 2: for America? Yeah, it's the.

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Speaker 3: Guy who like presides over the things and has the

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Speaker 3: hammer and he yells you.

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Speaker 2: Know that's that's that's that's That's pretty close. Okay, see

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Speaker 2: say come on, yeah, yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad.

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Speaker 2: This is okay. So we're going to go into a

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Speaker 2: bit more about what this person does because I don't know,

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Speaker 2: the American Constitution was written by absolute clowns and there's

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Speaker 2: some wild stuff there. But however, comma, you know, somewhat

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Speaker 2: more seriously, this is a very this is a very

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Speaker 2: sort of consequential and dangerous moment in American political history,

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Speaker 2: and in this moment, Congress is incomplete chaos. It is

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Speaker 2: it is. It is the most non functional it has

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Speaker 2: been in my entire life. And that is that is

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Speaker 2: saying something like Congress has been non functional for my

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Speaker 2: entire life. This is the worst it has ever been.

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Speaker 2: And the reason this is the worst has ever been

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Speaker 2: is that Kevin McCarthy, who is the now former Speaker

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Speaker 2: of the House, was removed by a vote of no

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Speaker 2: confidence on October third, which when this comes out, that

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Speaker 2: because he tried to cut a deal with the Democrats

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Speaker 2: to avert a government shut down until the seventeenth, and

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Speaker 2: he got the deal through. Crazy.

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Speaker 3: If we had a shutdown till seventeenth, god, imagine, imagine

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Speaker 3: met Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, here's the thing. Okay, there's no shutdown till the seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: There's also a chance, like a real serious chance that

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Speaker 2: like the shutdown starts and we still don't have a

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. Oh yeah, like it's not that high,

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Speaker 2: but it could happen, which is nuts. This has never

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Speaker 2: happened before. Yeah, and so so, so I guess we

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Speaker 2: should we should go into specifically what hasn't happened before.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that hasn't happened before is that no

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Speaker 2: sitting speaker of the House dream their term has ever

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Speaker 2: been removed by a vote of no confidence, which is

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Speaker 2: nuts because again, and I cannot emphasize this enough, for

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Speaker 2: most of the two thousands, the Speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: was a guy named Dennis Hastit who was literally a pedophile,

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Speaker 2: and he was not removed by a vote of no confidence.

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Speaker 2: So like, this is this is the level of of

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Speaker 2: you know, weirdness that we're in, Like like literally the

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Speaker 2: two hundred something year history of the US, this has

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Speaker 2: never happened.

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Speaker 3: And from my understanding, you don't actually have to be

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Speaker 3: like an elected member of the House to be the speaker,

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Speaker 3: which means they could carry on this tradition and they

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Speaker 3: could get Polanski as Speaker of the House if they

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Speaker 3: could find the efthoughts to carry it over.

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Speaker 2: You know, at this point, we're gonna get you later.

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Speaker 2: There was a there was a two day span, two

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Speaker 2: and a half days span where Trump was trying to

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Speaker 2: get himself elected a Speaker of the House. Yes, yes, oh,

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 3: That which would be probably the most funny, the most funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, results yeah, but you know, because this is

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Speaker 2: he also has a path to the presidency. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just have to get two impeatriment votes somehow to

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Speaker 2: take it out. This is how Trump can still win.

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Speaker 2: This is the path, guys. Unfortunately he's well, I mean

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. Okay, Legitimately, if Biden and Harris died

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Speaker 2: in a plane crash tomorrow, I actually think Trump could

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Speaker 2: win the would win the Speaker of the House vote.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, But this is this is.

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Speaker 2: This is how Birdie can still win. This is so

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 4: So so you know we're in this, We're in We're

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Speaker 4: in I don't know, We're just you know, this is

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Speaker 4: are in the wilderness, like we're in complete chaos lands.

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Speaker 2: No no one the US has never been here before.

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Speaker 2: And okay, the other thing we need to mention is, okay,

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Speaker 2: so you know you were saying that there there hasn't

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Speaker 2: like you know, we we we need we need to

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Speaker 2: bring back the like pedophiles to be the Speaker of

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Speaker 2: the House. So Speaker of the House, not a pedophile.

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Speaker 2: The guy who removed him as Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 2: He's by Matt Gates probably probably. Yeah. So here's here's

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Speaker 2: what I can say legally about Matt Gates, the guy

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Speaker 2: in the voter no confidence. He is a man best

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Speaker 2: known for being investigated for the Department of Justice for

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Speaker 2: trafficking underraged girls. What I can legally say is that

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Speaker 2: he was suspected by the Justice Department of being a pedophile.

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Speaker 2: There are there are like, there were receipts from his

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Speaker 2: sending money to underage girls. So you know, bad things,

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Speaker 2: bad things happening there. That investigation got killed because the

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Speaker 2: bourgeoisie protects its allies. But Comma, we do not have

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House right now, so something I think,

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Speaker 2: I guess we should also mention this. So there's like

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Speaker 2: a there's no Speaker of the House. There's some guy

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Speaker 2: they put in who's like, is not actually an acting

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. The only thing he can do

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Speaker 2: effectively is like make sure that there's vote specifically on

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Speaker 2: there being another Speaker of the House. Yeah, And this

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Speaker 2: has thrown the entire American political system into chaos because

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Speaker 2: with no Speaker of the House, the House of Representatives,

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Speaker 2: cannot pass bills. They can't do it. They cannot pass

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Speaker 2: the American system was designed, not having this one person

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Speaker 2: shuts down the entire effectively shut it shuts down the

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Speaker 2: And this has just shut down effectively, like most of

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Speaker 2: is what has happened, right. I think maybe subcommittee meetings

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Speaker 2: this is both a blessing and a curse. Normally, this

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Speaker 2: I think would just be a curse. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe right now this is probably the best possible time

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Speaker 2: this could have happened, because the consequence of this has

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Speaker 2: its most sort of just rapidly genocidal impulses about Palestine

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Speaker 2: because again, the House literally cannot pass any bills until

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Speaker 2: to send money to it. Laziel, we haven't been able

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Speaker 2: that again, we have until November seventeenth to pass a

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Speaker 2: in the American political system. And okay, so we should

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Speaker 2: we should ask the question why is this happening? And

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Speaker 2: there are both sort of short and long answers to

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Speaker 2: which is that the Republican Party is a coalition. It's

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Speaker 2: for example, you know, you have your different right wing

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Speaker 2: thel But these people align on a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 2: You have the evangelical stuff. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: the consequence of this, and the consequence of the sort

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Speaker 2: have this party where there are like libertarians alongside neocons,

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Speaker 2: and doing arch obstructionism, so you know, nothing can get done. Wait, care,

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Speaker 2: have you have you been? Do you remember the last

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Speaker 2: government shut down? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was only like two years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it feels like maybe maybe it was longer. It feels

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Speaker 3: it was in twenty eighteen. I think it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I see, because in my brain we're still in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they were actually funny.

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Speaker 3: So what I said when I say two years ago,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's that one was funny because

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Speaker 2: which is very funny. But yeah, but you know, but

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Speaker 2: back when Obama was in office, like this just happened

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Speaker 2: all the fucking time, like every other week. There was

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Speaker 2: like a threat of a government every single time a bill,

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Speaker 2: I had a bunch of family members get furloughed well

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Speaker 2: at one point because the government actually did shut down

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Speaker 2: for a long time. But there's a real problem with this,

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Speaker 2: which is that this political strategy encourages, effectively the it

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Speaker 2: also means that there's now this like qudra of politicos

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Speaker 2: obstructing anything from functioning. And this is what McCarthy ran into.

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Speaker 2: He ran into Gates and his sort of like band

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Speaker 2: a band of Mary weirdos, but that's way too complimentary.

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Speaker 2: His band of like absolute fanatics. And the real issue

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Speaker 3: Insert that at the end, Daniel, thank you or keep

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Speaker 3: No, like he he even split the more extreme contention

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Speaker 3: Well it's not bizarre because you can't like understand it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this and this has been a really interesting dynamic,

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Speaker 3: Gonna do you know who else actually needs to be

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Speaker 3: appeased by these same people?

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Speaker 3: Ronald right Coin looks down upon Congress every single time

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Speaker 3: my plan. Oh we're back, Hello everybody. Sorry, did didn't

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Speaker 3: did not realize you were already back so soon. I

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Speaker 3: as you were saying.

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Speaker 2: So, what has happened after that? The answer is an

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Speaker 3: Let's let's not disparage clowns, shall we. That's true, this

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Speaker 3: is unfair to be We could have clowns in the audience,

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Speaker 3: We could have closeted clowns in this phone call.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's true, Okay, I I yes, I've been

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Speaker 2: This has been this has been one of the most

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Speaker 2: no one else is within like sixty, right, Like what like.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't just a power move for Gates then? Like

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Speaker 3: he's he's also been trying so so. Gates' preferred candidate

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Speaker 2: He's mad.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Jim Jordan has been a recurring character

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he's not a he sucks, Like he's not quite

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Speaker 3: Hold the door open towards people that are even like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and that's been true.

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Speaker 3: He's been serving in Congress since like twentus and seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a very he's a very high He's one

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Problem is, Scalise lasts one day as that guy because

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Speaker 2: of the House, sixty six zero. He is screwed. There's

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Speaker 2: no way, like he has to get through sixty sixty

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Speaker 2: for him to do this, even even with McCarthy's support, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's way for him to do this.

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Speaker 2: As of time of recording. The thing that has happened

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Speaker 2: is that the Republicans have all gone home because they

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Speaker 2: get out at five, and he's going to try to

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Speaker 2: spend the weekends like building up support, trying to build

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Speaker 2: up enough votes in the House to like win speakership.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this has not seen where it seems like

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Speaker 3: it's it seems like a pretty uh pretty chance.

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Speaker 2: It's it's possible that like on like Monday or Tuesday

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Speaker 2: or something when they're like when this comes out, I'll

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Speaker 2: be eating crow and I'll have to record like it

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Speaker 2: that's true because it's his date.

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Speaker 3: But yes, because this does come out after the weekend,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, but we will.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy this. I I absolutely just do not

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Speaker 2: buy that Jim Jordan has enough votes. This is this

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Speaker 2: is this is this is this is my analysis. If

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but guessing get sixty votes and

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Speaker 2: like there's no way, there's no way. So this is

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Speaker 2: this is this is a fact. This is the current

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Speaker 2: state of Congress right now, Like we don't we don't

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Speaker 2: have a legislave branch. Everything everything is in chaos, nothing

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Speaker 2: but down. Two more to go. We're almost there, fellas. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: the executives, if it cannot come, the executive if we

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Speaker 2: can not go be executive, the judiciary will fall by itself. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that's that is certainly certainly exciting. There's always always

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Speaker 3: good things to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, I think I think a closing

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Speaker 2: note on this is that the fact that the US

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Speaker 2: middle of a pretty serious like a couple of well

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Speaker 2: likee one is in the middle of like several very

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Speaker 2: very serious international political crises and wars, is has I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's it's it's been the thing right now

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Speaker 2: that has been restraining the US from just like really

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Speaker 2: going all out and trying to get it when a

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Speaker 2: Palestine killed So I guess there's that, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Our government is a joke, yeah, and like and I

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Speaker 2: guess I guess. The last thing I want to say

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Speaker 2: is I want to invite all of you, everyone is

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Speaker 2: listening to this, to look at these absolute numb skills,

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Speaker 2: Like look at what they're doing right now. They can't

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Speaker 2: even pick the one guy who is necessary for the

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Speaker 2: entire letislative branch to function. And I want you to

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Speaker 2: ask yourself, could we do this? Could like any of

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Speaker 2: you and like your neighbors and your friends run a

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Speaker 2: political system better than this, Because I bet the answer

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Speaker 2: is yes.

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