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Speaker 1: Welcome to Monday's They should a Big Blue Kickoff live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. He is David Deal. I'm Lance.

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Speaker 1: Metto with you for the next sixty minutes to zero

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Speaker 1: the season. So the second half of the Giant season

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Speaker 1: will officially get underweight tonight. It'll wrap up Week ten

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Speaker 1: Giants Niners Monday Night Football. We'll get to your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your tweets a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: in the program, but this is probably in the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks. Dave, you would make the argument, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Giants have a pretty tough challenge in terms of the

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Speaker 1: caliber of the opponent, a team that either had a

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Speaker 1: really good offense, strong defense, somewhere in between. This is

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Speaker 1: the first matchup where the Giants are facing a team

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Speaker 1: you could argue with just as many question marks as themselves.

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Speaker 1: The Niners are two and seven. Nick Mullins is gonna

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Speaker 1: make his second career start, and they've had a number

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Speaker 1: of injuries on defense as well as the running game too.

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Speaker 1: It is and this is one of those games that

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Speaker 1: you go into and on paper, this is a game

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Speaker 1: where you feel that the New York Giants have an

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Speaker 1: advantage in regards to health. Where they're at is a

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Speaker 1: football team compared to right now where the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty niners are, especially with the opportunity of regrouping after

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Speaker 1: this bye week and now making sure that you come

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Speaker 1: up with a game plan that is tailored number one,

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Speaker 1: not only to the strengths of your offense or defense

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Speaker 1: and your special teams, but also being able to take

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Speaker 1: those things that you didn't do well in the first

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Speaker 1: eight games, make the adjustments that you need, whether it's

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Speaker 1: in your own techniques and fundamentals or as a group

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Speaker 1: in terms of scheme the way that you want to

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Speaker 1: attack people, and make the corrections you need to as

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Speaker 1: a football team, and now implement them into a football

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Speaker 1: game and build confidence off of this one for the

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Speaker 1: next eight games. But having said all that, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to execution in this one, well, it's be

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Speaker 1: of execution. I think the biggest looming question with respect

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Speaker 1: to the Giants of the second half of the season,

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Speaker 1: and you just alluded to this day in terms of

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Speaker 1: what changes they may make red zone ten of twenty

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Speaker 1: the season, that's forty are saying that second to last

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Speaker 1: the trenches. The question that I have is when you're

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Speaker 1: as much space to optic question. So what exactly do

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Speaker 1: the Giants need to do is in a matter of

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Speaker 1: running the ball effectively, the removal of the negative plays.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they're just not punching in number one?

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Speaker 1: It's an attitude. When you get down into the red zone,

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Speaker 1: for a field goal, not just what takes place on

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Speaker 1: as a football team and to be able to build

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Speaker 1: build competence as a group. So part of it is

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Speaker 1: number one being able to establish the run so you

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Speaker 1: don't become one dimensional. And now all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. But something that has led into that are

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Speaker 1: the types of penalties that they've had, or the misques

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Speaker 1: Now it's you're backed up first and goal from the seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Not to mention. You realize how vital and how important

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Speaker 1: anything can happen in regards to takeaways, and it's all

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Speaker 1: in helping build the momentum you need as a football team.

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Speaker 1: So part of it is running the football, part of

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Speaker 1: it is not having the negative plays, But the biggest

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Speaker 1: knocking them out. It's almost like you start getting hesitant,

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Speaker 1: you start getting worried, and you know it's it's something

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Speaker 1: that as a group when it happens once and you

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Speaker 1: And then once you start getting that attitude, you go

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna be denied. And when you start building

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Speaker 1: that attitude as a group, it doesn't matter what defensive

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Speaker 1: could have watched games this entire weekend. There's teams that

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Speaker 1: and hold each other account of well. To your point,

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Speaker 1: just that pile of compression just keep going into the

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Speaker 1: what changes it. And as far as the level of

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Speaker 1: they've drafted a number of guys in the first round

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Speaker 1: starting to reap the rewards because Robert Salo, their defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: he likes to rotate personnel, which most defensive coordinators who

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Speaker 1: they moved from corner to safety, so there's opportunities that

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Speaker 1: there's definitely gonna be opportunities. And what Robert Salo, the

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Speaker 1: So you know that's the type of mentality that he

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Speaker 1: We want to be disciplined, but we want to play fast.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to overthink things and take away the

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Speaker 1: aggressiveness of a group. And what that allows you to

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Speaker 1: He is a mobile quarterback. He doesn't have the strongest arm,

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Speaker 1: That's where Kittles in this game has to be accounted for.

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Speaker 1: unbelievable draft pick that they got two years ago in

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Speaker 1: and what what they're trying to do with their schemes.

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Speaker 1: A Kiddle made an outstanding one handed grab last Thursday

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Speaker 1: an underrated athlete because, like you said, when he gets

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Speaker 1: cable of taking at the distance. And you're right, David, mean,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Niners personnel, they're not a

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Speaker 1: The Niners are not going to bring that out. But

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Speaker 1: what Shanahan does is he plays at the strength of

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Speaker 1: They use the fullback Kyle use Check. Matt Brita is

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Speaker 1: Kyle use Check is almost like a tight end. They

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Speaker 1: use them as like an h back, but they motioned

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Speaker 1: a lot of misdirection stuff. But also when you get

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Speaker 1: those motions, especially at the wide receiver position, what are

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program, Chrisian, what do you got for us? Hey, guys?

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Speaker 1: Um I don't get to call much, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: that way obviously, Yeah, because I mean it comes down

430
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Speaker 1: to numbers with respect to putting your roster together. You

431
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 1: can only have so many offensive linement on the roster.

432
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,400
Speaker 1: And then I'll take it a step further. You can

433
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 1: only dress so many offensive linement. And it's important that

434
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 1: whoever is dressing that doesn't start. You better have one

435
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: guy that could play garden center and then another guy

436
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 1: that could be a guard, slash tackle, or else you're

437
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna be in the situation like the Falcons a few

438
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 1: years ago. I was talking about this on Sirious this week.

439
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember the game they lost so many tackles,

440
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 1: Levine toy Lolo had to slide in at right tackle.

441
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: They're starting tight end, and then look at what happened

442
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: to the Redskins. I remember one time we were sitting

443
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: there in Philadelphia and I got hit. We played We're

444
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: playing Sunday Night football, and I got hit with the stinger.

445
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: At this time, I've already moved two positions during the

446
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: game because of injuries. And I'm sitting there and I'm like,

447
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: they're asking for m okay, and I'm looking over and

448
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 1: I could see Coach Flarerty's eyes looking at me and

449
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: he's looking over because he's trying to teach Fred Robbins

450
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: the snap count. We had no other offensive lineman. I'm like,

451
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Speaker 1: I'll make it. I'll be okay. We had to take

452
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: a time out. We took a time out for me

453
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 1: to like regroup and get back into it. But that's

454
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about numbers. It Coach Flarety was sitting

455
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: there going over just to snap count with Fred Robbins

456
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: because we didn't have any other offensive lineman on. So

457
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: even though you're hurting, you're going at Flaherty and you're like, Flairty,

458
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: don't worry about teaching Fred Robins. They'll be good enough

459
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: to handle the situation. Yeah, And that's what happens where

460
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: you trying to move tight ends defensive lineman and more

461
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: often now you gotta do it on the fly. You

462
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: have to do it on the fly. And once again

463
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: you're sitting there trying to rotate you and once you're

464
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: at that point, you know that it's all downhill from there.

465
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: So um, it is it. It does come down to

466
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: the numbers, and it does come down to versatility for

467
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: who you could suit up, especially week to week based

468
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: upon injuries on your team. Now, to the caller's point,

469
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: if you look at the beginning of this season, it's

470
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Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine, David, that you had Nate Soldier,

471
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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, John Hallo, Pio, Patrick o'mamay, Eric Flowers. That

472
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: was the starters to start to see. Okay, now we're

473
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: halfway through the season. Hollapeo unfortunately went down Week two

474
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Speaker 1: against Dallas, so he's on I R. And then oh

475
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: mammy and Flowers are no longer on the team. The

476
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: entire right side of the offensive line that began this

477
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: year is not even on the roster, forget injured reserve,

478
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: not even here, not even here anymore, which is the

479
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: crazy thing. And it just goes to show you how

480
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: fast and how quickly the magnitude of the situation has

481
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: taken place here. But also to realize, but they're making

482
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: moves for the future. They're making this roster better. And

483
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: I know that when you sit there and you release

484
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Patrick O, Mommy and everybody, it's a failure. It's this, Well,

485
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: at least you're cutting bait now and doing it now

486
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: to where you can look towards the future. Give guys

487
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity like they're getting right now and continue to

488
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: build instead of holding on to something that you know

489
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: isn't going to be there, that you know doesn't fit,

490
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: just to save face. I love the fact that they

491
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: did it now, regardless of what people think. At least

492
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: they're making moves in the right direction and seeing regardless

493
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: of who you are, whether we just signed you as

494
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: a free agent or not, either you're part of the

495
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: solution or you are a part of the problem and

496
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: you're not going to be here. I agree with you.

497
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. Better to evaluate Jimon

498
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: Brown starting tonight to determine whether or not he can

499
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: be a key piece to your offensive line moving forward,

500
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Speaker 1: especially if you were at this point ready to move

501
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: on from Momma anyway, So why wait? Do it now?

502
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Take care of business and move forward and see what

503
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: progression you can make as a group, because while the

504
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: team certainly wants to win football games, the fans are

505
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: anxious to see better results at the end of the game.

506
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: Of course, I mean he said it tons of times

507
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: every time somebody asked him about, you know, doing the

508
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: whole dog and pony dance and making it seem as

509
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: if they're still in it to win it. But moving

510
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: on from players you can afford as a first year

511
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 1: head coach say oh, it's you need to win now.

512
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Speaker 1: And they've realized that him and Dave Kettleman understand that well.

513
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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. If you look at a

514
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: makeup of this roster. I brought this up on this

515
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: program tons and tons of times, Dave, is the fact

516
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: that there are so many young guys on this roster.

517
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: Who are they to be in a position to say, hey,

518
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what, I could take off the second half

519
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: of the season because I've got five or six years

520
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: ahead of me. And and even a guy like b. W. Webb,

521
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: for example, he's been on six teams in six years,

522
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: who is he to say now, that's fine, I've got

523
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: my position solidified with the Giants. I think a lot

524
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: of players are not in the position to have that

525
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: luxury of a mindset right now. There's no more phone

526
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: of friend lifeline. As a player, there's no more anything.

527
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: And you realize, like I've been saying on this show,

528
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: and which I've talked and done plenty of interviews about,

529
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: you realize that right now, you as a player, your character,

530
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: your reputation, your accountability to your football team is being

531
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Speaker 1: judged not only by the New York Giants, but every

532
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Speaker 1: other NFL team, because at some point during the football season,

533
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Speaker 1: adversity hits. Whether you're one in seven or whether you're

534
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: six and two, it doesn't matter, and you're gonna be

535
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: judged by a team based upon how you handle adversity. Now,

536
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: and if you're a player that's just gonna shut it

537
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: down and quit, you think that every other NFL team

538
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: that's watching that same thing is gonna go out on

539
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: a limb saying, oh, well, it was just a bad situation.

540
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: If it comes here now all of a Sunday, is

541
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: gonna become accountable. No, you never change those traits as

542
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: a player. They'll stick with you for life. And that's

543
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: why you see people with the most talent, that have

544
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: the attitude, that have the heart, that have the mind

545
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: continue to play. And then you see others that have

546
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: that but don't have the heart, that don't have the determination,

547
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: that don't realize the magnitude of it. It doesn't matter

548
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: how athletically gifted you are. We don't trust you. And

549
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're gonna be gone. Yeah,

550
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: you're putting it down on film every single time you

551
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: take a snap, no matter what jersey you're in. Two

552
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Speaker 1: zero one five one three. That is the telephone number,

553
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, David, deal with you here? Mondays they should

554
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: a big blue kickoff live, getting you said from Monday

555
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: Night football. Let's head back to the phone lines. And

556
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: Tonio is in Manhattan. Antonio, what's happening? Welcome on board? Hey,

557
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: what's going on? Going on? David? How you guys doing today?

558
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Doing great? What's up? Antonio? All right, So I have

559
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: a dilemma in my hands, so I actually want to

560
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want the Giants to win

561
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: or to lose, honestly, because obviously the draft takes it's

562
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna be better if we lose. But if we win,

563
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I do have like some slim hope that we still,

564
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, have a chance in this division because the Cowboys,

565
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and the Eagles, just outside of the division games,

566
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: they still have really tough opponents left. What do you

567
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: guys think? Well, well, Antony, I'm gonna ask you this question. First,

568
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: how how have you felt over the last nine weeks

569
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: being a Giants fan? It's been tough? Okay, and you

570
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: want this agony to continue. Well, no, no, no, no,

571
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: no no, I'm just here's the thing. You want this

572
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: agony to continue now it doesn't matter anymore because it

573
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore. So you're gonna sit here and watch

574
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: the game. And then if if the Giants lose, are

575
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: you not gonna be yelling? Oh? They if they want

576
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: them to lose right now? Oh they're giving no web?

577
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: How can they not do this? What you You can't

578
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: be on both sides of it. Either you're fully invested

579
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: or you're not. And I'm telling you the attitude of

580
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: this football team and the attitude of the players and

581
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: the people that feel that way, it's I understand you're

582
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: looking towards the future, but why would you tank? Why

583
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: would you do that specifically when things work out for

584
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: themselves the way that they do, regardless of the way

585
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: the season goes. Well, here's the thing. Now, at the

586
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: point that we are, it's like if we lose. For

587
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: the eight weeks, if we lost, it was frustrating. Now

588
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: it's like if we look like, at least it's better

589
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: we're getting draft picks, and if we win, it's like, okay, great,

590
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: we want Well they're gonna get a draft pick regardless

591
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: of where they finish. It's not like you're gonna lose

592
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: the draft pick. Well no, but but see, and I've

593
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: said this time and time again, it's it's what you

594
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: do with the draft pick. It's not where you necessarily pick.

595
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: But we're sitting next to a guy that they found

596
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: late in the draft, so you know, I mean, he

597
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: turned out pretty good the last time I checked late

598
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: in the draft. Neither. You know, I'm saying we got

599
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: lucky last year, that we were bad because we just

600
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: got the next you know, uh, Antonio, are you listening.

601
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: We're lucky because we were bad. That's the mentality you

602
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: have in life, Antonio, the big serious think about that

603
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: we were just lucky we were bad. Then think about

604
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: that statement, Antonio. What pick you get is where it's

605
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna be regardless. You know that this team is looking

606
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: towards the future. You know that they want to build

607
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: not only what they have left in these next eight games,

608
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: but for two thousand and nineteen based upon what happens

609
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: in these next eight weeks. Those are things that you

610
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: cannot control. But to go along with what Man said,

611
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: it's not just about where the pick is. It's about

612
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: what type of quality player that you pick at that

613
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: spot and at that number. That's the biggest issue. And

614
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: here's another thing I'll add to what Dave just laid out, Antonio.

615
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: I'm looking through the first round from this year. Now,

616
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: it's a small sample size. It's hard to judge, guys,

617
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: but I mean, you go pass where the Giants picked you.

618
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, who were just talking about, was the ninth

619
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: overall pick. He's the starting right tackle for the Niners.

620
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: He's helped solidify their line. The Redskins got Doron Payne

621
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: at thirteen, who was a hell of a defensive tackle.

622
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Derwin James at seventeen did the charge pretty damn absolutely.

623
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: What about late and Van dersh who made a number

624
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: of big plays for the Cowboys and now Shawn Lee

625
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: sideline Price is playing well for the Bengals on the

626
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: online at center, Calvin Ridley for the Falcons at just

627
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: made a bunch of players in the Patriots game last night.

628
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: For the title, I mean, we're going over guys that

629
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: were late first the Falcons. Yeah, but we have the

630
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: best play of last year's draft, though, guys, well, I

631
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: mean you certainly have you have one of the best players.

632
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect to say Kwan Barkley, but the

633
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: year that's one thing. Okay, he's like head and shoulders

634
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: above like any of the running back that was drafted.

635
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: And I can make the argument that he was better

636
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: than any quarterback there, like that was the right choice. Well,

637
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: time will tell. With respect, I mean right now, I

638
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: think he's certainly you're talking to online un want to

639
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: run the football. Yeah, well, and Barkley has certainly lived

640
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: up to the hype number of explosive plays in the

641
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Speaker 1: first have the seat. I don't disagree with any of

642
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Speaker 1: your sentiments. I'm just saying that don't get caught up

643
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Speaker 1: in the Giants can't win any more games because they've

644
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: got to get the second overall pick or else all

645
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Speaker 1: is going to be worse not to and not to

646
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Speaker 1: mention to go along with that, Antonio, think about with

647
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: the moves that they made with moving Eli Apple, with

648
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: trading Brett Jones, with trading Damon Snax Harrison. Those are

649
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks help out with your value

650
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: of what you can do and where you can move

651
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: up in the draft as well. Definitely, I persuaded me

652
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: to change my opinion. Definitely think that. Yeah, there's two

653
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: sides of everything, as they say, and listen, we're gonna

654
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: let real quick Antonio. Yeah, definitely one last thing, um.

655
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: In terms of the San Francisco forty niners, we're pretty

656
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Speaker 1: much their officers, pretty much, the the tight end and

657
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the fullback. Those are the main star players. Correct, And

658
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll take it off the phone. Take it all right,

659
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: an Tony, appreciate the phone call. Well, they've had their

660
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: top four wide receivers in and out of the lineup

661
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: this year. They've missed a lot of games. I think

662
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Speaker 1: actually nine games combined between all of them, and Pierre

663
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Speaker 1: Garzon is not playing tonight. Marque's Goodwin is their main

664
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Speaker 1: vertical threat. So it is a fair point because Garson's

665
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Speaker 1: your possession receiver. Everybody else behind him, young, unproven commodities,

666
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: the borns of the world, the tailors of the world.

667
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, you can't overlook them, no, but they're

668
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily household names. Goodwins, the goodwins, the deep threat.

669
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Speaker 1: You know, you have Kittle's working the same, you have

670
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: use check as the check down. But it's all leaning

671
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: on the run game about bootlegs, nakeds, in miss direction

672
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: to try to get those guys into open space, and

673
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: they have those yards after catch that they want to

674
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Speaker 1: thrive upon and just stay in short and manageable positions

675
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: as an offensive line. Yeah, Brita, they're starting running back

676
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: is averaging five and a half yards per carry. You

677
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: have to slow him down. And then today's point Kittle

678
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: and the Kittle we're talking about a guy that's had

679
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: over seventy five receiving yards in I believe, six of

680
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: the team's nine games, so he's a consistent weapon, and

681
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I think those catches have come in between the numbers,

682
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: which is that's his play against the Raiders. Do again,

683
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: and that's the security blank in Kyle Shanahan system. And

684
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: all you need to do is go back to last

685
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: year's matchup where they were going up against C. J.

686
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Beth Are to another unproven quarterback, and it was the

687
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: tight ends that absolutely killed the Giants. And it wasn't

688
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: necessarily guys running by the Giants. It was missed tackles.

689
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: The fundamentals were nowhere to be shown. So they've got

690
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: to tighten that up because these guys are very crafty.

691
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: They can wiggle out of tackles and all of a

692
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: sudden take it for a home run. And the reason

693
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: why Kyle Shanahan liked Kittles is because he said it

694
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: reminded him a lot of Austin Hooper, who they drafted

695
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: to Atlanta out of Stanford at that time. Same similar skills,

696
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: same size, same everything. So that's why they went to

697
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: got kicked a lout of bywa. Yeah, and even if

698
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you go back to what he worked with when he

699
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: was at the Falcons, he relied on slot receivers. He

700
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: had a tailor, Gabriel who's now in Chicago. You look

701
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: for a similar personnel. That why they were praying when

702
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: this season started that they had Garoppolo and Jerick McKinnon

703
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: the two ways, so we can catch out of the

704
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: backfield as well. Obviously both of them hurting out for

705
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: the season. McKinnon went down before the season even started,

706
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: which was an absolute killer. And that relates back to

707
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: his thinking from Atlanta because he had Tevin Coleman and

708
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: DeVante Freeman the same offensive, same system, and then flip

709
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: sides on defense, you're looking at the Seattle Seahawks defense,

710
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: so basically you're looking at the Atlanta Falcons from two

711
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: years ago. In the mirror right exactly. It's that pick

712
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: drying on Twitter or Facebook where Spider Man is staring

713
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: at himself in the It's like, wait a minute, hold

714
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: on a second, Sarah's going Atlanta too much similarities here,

715
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phone lines. Lenn Is in Columbia, Maryland,

716
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: lenn what's happening? Hey, guys, how you doing? What do

717
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: you go for? Good? Good? Well? It seems like forever

718
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: since the Joints have played the game football. Um. I'm

719
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: not a big Patrick oh mom a fan based on

720
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: his work with the Giants here over the over the

721
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: first eight weeks. But I'm gonna make a prediction if

722
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: he's not already working out for somebody as we speak,

723
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be on an NFL roster in the next

724
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: ten days. I bet he will be. Do you know

725
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: he started twenty two of the last twenty four NFL weekends,

726
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: and I mean you know, he was a starter. He's

727
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna find work, of course, he's gonna find it. He's

728
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna find it quick. At last, I think he made

729
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: a really good point on on breathe Um, which was

730
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: one of one of my keys to the game tonight.

731
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Was We're just gonna have to tackle. We're gonna have

732
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: to tackle. I mean, Greedy is not a big guy,

733
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: but he'll who'll wiggle out of stuff. And we watched

734
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: that happened in a couple of games yesterday with some

735
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: really average running backs. UM, who just didn't get tackled well.

736
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Speaker 1: But I think if we yeah, it's it's all technique.

737
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, if we tackle well and not just grab

738
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: on them. Uh, you know, Reed is going down, and

739
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be good for the Giants. That's that's that's

740
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna be good for the Giants. UM. I may be

741
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: one of the few callers you'll get this week. I

742
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: just want to go on reckon here. I'm I'm I'm

743
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: excited about I'm excited about the second half. UM. I

744
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: want to see some wins. I mean, we've got eight

745
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: games left, We've got three division games, one of those

746
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: are at home. UM, we got four home games total.

747
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: I want to see some wins. As a season ticket holder. UM,

748
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: trainee camp is over. I mean, we got fifty three guys.

749
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: We're going into the second half of the year. Let's

750
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: just stick with these guys and you know, coach them up,

751
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: put a good game plan together and let's go out

752
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: and win some games. Um, I understand changes in the

753
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: second you know, second half of the season, and when

754
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, guys get hurt. Obviously you got to replace

755
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: people in the fifty three if somebody's hurt. But you know,

756
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: I think we've done enough experimentation. Let's let's put this

757
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: offensive line out there and you know, get him in

758
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: the room, David and say, look, guys, you are the

759
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: five guys going forward. Get it done, get it done,

760
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: and you know, let's just take this serious. Coach these

761
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: guys up. And Uh, I'm I'm I'll tell you, I'm

762
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait for tonight. I can't wait for the

763
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: thought of the second half. Um, I'm looking at it

764
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: like again, like training camps over. Uh, this is the squad.

765
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Let's go forward to win some games. Uh, we got

766
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: we got some players. I could see it's easily winning

767
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: four or five of these last games. And if I

768
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: don't sound excited, guys, let me remove you. Will we

769
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: get it wet. You got what I was going to

770
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: follow up with. He hit on a perfect point to

771
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: start with tonight's game and for the rest of the season.

772
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Coming off of the bye the things that we all

773
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: want to see, the fundamentals and execution, the blocking, the tackling,

774
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: the securing of the football. Special teams in these next

775
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: eight weeks have to step up and give field position

776
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: to the offense or pin an opposing offense back with

777
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: their punting. Those are the things that you're gonna need

778
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: to see out of this game tonight, that you're gonna

779
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: need to see to see that progress moving forward for

780
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: the next eight weeks, because that's what the bye week

781
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: allows you to do, to self evaluate and to get

782
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: back to the fundamentals of football that are critical when

783
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: it comes time to a football game. And one play here,

784
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: one play here, one play here that whether it's a

785
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: mistackle of miss block, misscommunication, anything with the misdassignment, those

786
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: things cannot be excused from this point forward. Well, because

787
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: that's what's been the achilles heel of this team in

788
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: the first half of the season. We talked about this earlier.

789
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: The giants of it able to move the football, but

790
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: then they shoot themselves at the foot. And let's face it,

791
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: this team, top to bottom is just not good enough

792
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: to overcome. When you have the collection of negative places,

793
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome when you're a good group. Of course,

794
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: now you're rotating and you're in adverse times, it's even

795
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: harder to do that. So those are the things that

796
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to. Being efficient on first and

797
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: second down, don't having the don't have the pre snap

798
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: penalties that are gonna sit you back five yards, and

799
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: just everybody locked in and being accountable to one another,

800
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: because how many times have we seen this season ten

801
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: people doing the right thing. All it takes is for

802
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: one to not do the right thing, and now all

803
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you either have a big player or

804
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: a touchdown that's a momentum changing play that now all

805
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're looking at and you're like, oh,

806
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: here we go again. Well, and that's exactly what Sterling

807
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: Shepard talked about when he addressed the media this week.

808
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: And to lay out exactly what you're talking about, David.

809
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: When you go back to that Eagles game, the Thursday

810
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: night game, say Kwan Barkley if your call, he had

811
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: that big fifty five yard catching row. So they get

812
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: in Eagles territory, their deep and Eagles territory, and then

813
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: it was either the very next play or two plays later.

814
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: I believe John Greco got called for a false start

815
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: and now of a sudden, you moving backwards. And you know,

816
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: that's what I've seen time and time again in the

817
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: first half of the season. One explosive play, so you

818
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: moved two steps forward only to hit now three steps back.

819
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: It happened in Carolina, and had another one Washington Redskins.

820
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: And those are the things too hard to overcome when

821
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: you're already trying to dig yourself out of the hole

822
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: and making sure that you're in first and second down,

823
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're in the third and

824
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: four to six, which you can deal with. I don't

825
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: care who you are as an offensive line. When you

826
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: look back at the numbers in the amount of third

827
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: downs that this Giant's team has had in the first

828
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Speaker 1: eight games that have been anywhere from third and eight plus,

829
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Speaker 1: we're looking at over se pretty much of these third

830
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: downs were that long of distances that I don't care

831
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: what group you have up front, you're not gonna be

832
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: able to overcome those and get anywhere close to having Yeah,

833
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: that has been an absolute killer. They's thirty five of

834
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: a hundred, thirty five percent on the season. But you

835
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: know you brought up a really good point. I'm looking

836
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Speaker 1: for my chart here because I actually chart all the

837
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Speaker 1: third downs. So here we go in terms of lengthy

838
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: third downs, David, as you can see on our chart.

839
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: So let's go to the last game. They were two

840
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: or fourteen, by the way, on third down against the Redskins,

841
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: eight of the fourteen third downs were for ten yards

842
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: or more. Done, Bingo, there we go. Keep going. Well,

843
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you go back, so Falcons five

844
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Speaker 1: of twelve, so of the twelve third downs half or

845
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: for eight yards or more, then four or fourteen against

846
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles, eight of the fourteen third down seven yards

847
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: or more. And it is a continuous train digging out

848
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: of it. And it's hard to overcome those things when

849
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: you're already having at verse times. So now all of

850
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: a sudden you get that penalty, you're trying to bring

851
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: somebody else in, Then you're dealing with the clock, then

852
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: you're hurrying up to the line. It's those are things

853
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: that you can't have because those are things that you

854
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: control as a group and as an individual. And then

855
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: you get to a situation san where you're Pat Flaherty

856
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: and you're trying to prepair guys on top of all

857
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: the other heads daves. So, yeah, life's not good when

858
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with all these issues. Two zero one

859
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: night three four or five one three is the telephone number.

860
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Let's head back to lunch. Big head is in Maryland,

861
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: Big head, what's happening? Well, that's tough, fellas. How we

862
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: do a big headed And yeah, I don't want to

863
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: say hello to the king King David, King David, is

864
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: there any kind of way you can come back and

865
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: play from football? I appreciate it, big thank you very much.

866
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: But I'm blessed to play eleven seasons with the best

867
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. Yes, you were, man, Thank you

868
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: for them championships. We needed it and you and you

869
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: did it. You certainly did it. I don't know what

870
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: else to say to these guys, man, but I like

871
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: what Odell said. Uh last week he said, you know,

872
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: we can win all of them, and he's absolutely right.

873
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: We just have to figure out what are we going

874
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: to do an offense and star making points. Because I

875
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: looked at every single game and believe it or not,

876
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Johant World, we've been in every game. The only thing

877
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: that's messed us of is the offense has to execute

878
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: and score points. We can't do the old field going away.

879
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: We got to score touchdown touchdowns, win championships. We gotta

880
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: go for the bomb and go for it all and

881
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: go for everything we can to make this possible. It's

882
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: great to hear from you, Lands. It's great to hear

883
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: from you, Dave. And I'm not going to talk much.

884
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: I just want to see if win. I payed tonight

885
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: in the beginning. Keep going and say hello to John

886
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: and Paul and let him know one win at a time.

887
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: It's all as needed. When all eight you're in, well,

888
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're guaranteed to nine and seven

889
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: may not even necessarily do it. But I get your point, Big,

890
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: and you're always a confident man. I'm not gonna deny that,

891
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: and appreciate the phone call. The thing is to get

892
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: in out of the East. You know you're gonna have

893
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: to win the division. The wild card is not coming

894
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: out of the East, or you're going home. And I'm

895
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: glad he brought up what O'Dell had to say because

896
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: just from a media narrative, David, and you can relate

897
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: to this because you've been in a player's shoes. What

898
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: is a player supposed to say, you know, how they

899
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: make a big deal. You know, O'Dell came out and

900
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: said that they think they can win all the games.

901
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: What's he supposed to tell you? No, I think we're

902
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna go owen eight the second half of the season.

903
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: And what type of attitude are you supposed to have

904
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: as an athlete, as a professional, as somebody that's competitive

905
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: and it thinks that way, that's the way that you

906
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: always think. So it's like he said they may win

907
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: eighth straight. It's like, there's a reason why you're on

908
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: that side and he's on this side. Correct, Yeah, I

909
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: mean way too much is made up of Oh it's

910
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: a bold prediction. It's ridiculous. What's he smoking this? And that?

911
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: I remember? No, Well, it doesn't matter to day the day,

912
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be judge based on the results on

913
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: the field. The talking is limited. But you know it's

914
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season when they asked teams,

915
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: you know, how do they feel about the outlook of

916
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: the division? And some guys come out and they're gonna

917
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: win the division to win the Super What do you

918
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: want him to say? That's what you're working for That's

919
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: the attitude that you have in your head. I would

920
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: hope the player felt like that is opposed to go

921
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: into the season. Now you know what, we're gonna go

922
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: one in fifteen. We really feel good that number one

923
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: pick extremely attractive. Thing you go back to as you

924
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: think the baseball all takes is one hit. All it

925
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: takes is one win to start propelling yourself and building

926
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: confidence as a group, and you never know where that

927
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: will take you. But to sit there and say, oh, well,

928
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: why would he say that? What's it crazy? That's how

929
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: you think as an as an athlete, and they have

930
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: that mentality as a competitor is that you're never out

931
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: of the fight. Marcus Latrelle one of the lone survived

932
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: one of You're never out of the fun, You're never

933
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: out well, And in terms of just the makeup of

934
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: the division right now, I think we're getting ahead of

935
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: ourselves in terms of what the outlook is for the Giants.

936
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: They need to just get their offense going. They need

937
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: to show progress one game at a time. But I

938
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: think it is very interesting that this year is resembling

939
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: a lot to me like two thousand fifteen, that was

940
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: the year the Redskins one nine and seven the division.

941
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: They were hovering around five hundred if you remember, the

942
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Giants were below five hundred and they were still mathematically

943
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: in it towards the end. So this could be one

944
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: of those years where you got the Cowboys two games

945
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: back as well the Eagles of the Redskins, and now

946
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: Washington with its offensive line issues. It could very well

947
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: take just nine and seven to win this division this year.

948
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me either. And

949
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: regardless of what it is like, we're just saying, whoever

950
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: wins the division is it's obviously going to get into

951
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But there's there's gonna be no second place

952
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: team out of the East getting into the playoffs. I'd

953
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: be very surprised to see something like that, especially when

954
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you look at the NFC South the depth there as

955
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: well as some of these other divisions. Let's head back

956
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: to the lines. Jamal is in Tyson's Corner, Virginia. Jamal,

957
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you got

958
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: for us? Hey? What's gonna I just want to say

959
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: hello to Lance and King Dave. What's going on? King Davis?

960
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Catching on now that's great on that hat. Where did

961
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: you get it? I'm trying to figure out. I'm searching

962
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: online and I can't seem to watch Jamal. I got

963
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: a guy, man, That's what they say here on the

964
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: East Coast. I got a guy and that guy is

965
00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: lids dot Com. Go ahead, you can go the camouflage rvious.

966
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: What do you guys, what are you guys feelings if

967
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: we don't get that young man out of the QB

968
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: out of Oregon? What do you guys think about Daniel

969
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Jones out of Duke Well, I mean to sit here

970
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: and to start thinking about that, jam All. I mean, honestly,

971
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: believe me, I've looked at the prospects ahead. But if

972
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna start getting into that point, you first have

973
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: to get Kyle Loletta on the field to see what

974
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: you have in him as a football player. You've got

975
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: to take steps in order to get to that quarterback position.

976
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, I believe me, I'm hoping that that that

977
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: doesn't take place, because it's a sign in the direction

978
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: of where this football team is going in over the

979
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: next eight weeks. So you don't want to think about

980
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: it that way. But before you start thinking about that quarterback,

981
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: whether the Oregon quarterback is going to come out or not,

982
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: or the Duke quarterback. We've got to get a look

983
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: at Kyle Aletta before we take that next step. No,

984
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I appreciate what you guys do, and

985
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: uh look forward to the game tonight. Let's go Giants.

986
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. Let's head back to lines. You've

987
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: got Dave in Hackett's town, New Jersey. Dave, what's happening? Hi,

988
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: guys fan for a long time, I go back since

989
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: sixty eight, Not that that matters a span today. That

990
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: talked about losing versus winning. If you remember, I went

991
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: through Perkins and I went through Purcel's on up. You

992
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: have to build a culture winning win the first dark

993
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: Arne game. You can't look at losing to get a pick.

994
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: You have to build a culture for these athletes. They're

995
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: not stupid people. So I'm gonna get off, I'm gonna

996
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: get up the line and listen to your answer. But

997
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: you don't build a culture winning by losing. And that's

998
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: what Dave Gilleman and this coach want to do. They

999
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: want to build a culture of winning and then you

1000
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: start from there. Thanks guys, the phone called Dave, and

1001
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: I love it to build parcels. Quote loses assemble in

1002
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: small groups and complain, while winners assemble as a team

1003
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: and find ways to win. Boy, is that true when

1004
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: it comes to football person in life? So great for

1005
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: the phone call, and I agree. I've been in these

1006
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: tough situations. I've been in seasons that we've been eight

1007
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: and eight. I've been on teams that were six and ten.

1008
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: But people always remember, I love the Super Bowls. You

1009
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: know you guys want two of them. Yeah, but it

1010
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: was the adverse seasons that got us to those Super

1011
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: Bowls to fight it out, to feel number one, what

1012
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: we were made of as a team and who was

1013
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: going to be there for along for the fight in

1014
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: order to get there. Well, and that goes back to

1015
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: even when you look at this season when things have

1016
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: gone downhill, and the caller brought this up, if you

1017
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: look at the eight games they've been in from an

1018
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: effort standpoint, just about every game. I would say the

1019
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Eagles is the exception, which was an extremely lopsided game

1020
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: from the get go, but all of these other games,

1021
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: even the New Orleans game, the Camara late fourth quarter touchdown,

1022
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: made it lopsided Atlanta. We know Carolina neck and neck Jacksonville,

1023
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: the pick six was a huge difference maker. I mean

1024
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: even the Dallas game, which got away from them early,

1025
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: is still within striking distance late perhaps, so they have

1026
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: been pretty much in all of these games. The problem

1027
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: is they have not been able to get over the

1028
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: hump and finish, and that's what they're looking for. Finishing.

1029
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: So for example, you get to the red zone five

1030
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: times against Atlanta, the only away with two touchdowns. That's

1031
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: not finishing up against in the Atlanta offense, you know

1032
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: that puts up points. And now you're going up against

1033
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: the San Francisco offense, which is not a juggernaut. But

1034
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is not take

1035
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: advantage of your opportunities, keep them around, give confidence to

1036
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, and then all of a sudden you're

1037
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: giving them becomes dangerous. Yeah, because you're you're giving them confidence.

1038
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: And I think what's also interesting not to look too

1039
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: far ahead, but now that I'm thinking about this, Tampa

1040
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Bay is the worst team in the NFL in turnover differential,

1041
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: their minus nineteen. They had four turnovers yesterday, no takeaways.

1042
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: So the next two games, including tonight, the Giants are

1043
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: going to see the two worst teams in the NFL

1044
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: in taking care of the football and a team that

1045
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: also has the fewest takeaways. You do not want to

1046
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: hand them gifts and continue the issues that you showcase

1047
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: to the first half of the season. No, don't let

1048
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: this be the get back, correct because they're looking at

1049
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: the bounce back as much as you are, exactly and

1050
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: then that's something that you do not want to have

1051
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: and and don't give them that life fly. Don't give

1052
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: them hope early on in a football game, if Mullins

1053
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: throws one's throws one out there, you have to come

1054
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: up with the interception. You can't get the clap, Oh,

1055
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: I should have caught that one. Those are the types

1056
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: of things that take quarterbacks and young quarterbacks out of

1057
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: the game and builds the momentum doubting their head. Two

1058
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: zero one four five one three is the telephone number,

1059
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Lance Meadow David, deal with you here. Monday's the day

1060
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: should a Big Blue kickoff live. The turning point of

1061
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the program is always when we hear from Unfortunately Charlie

1062
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: and Portland, Maine. Charlie, what exactly do you have for

1063
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: us today. Heyway, say David, Hey, I gotta just a

1064
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: couple of things that's dangerous, but go ahead. One is

1065
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: you know we I always you know, we always keep

1066
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: hearing execution. We gotta execute, we gotta execute. Well, my

1067
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: thing is and we have been executing. So I'm just

1068
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: using this an example. Say, you know, we've been using

1069
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: the bubble screen in the time. It ain't working because

1070
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: we can't execute it. Do you take it's time to

1071
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: take the bubble screen out of this, out of the

1072
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: offense and put something absolutely That's why I was talking

1073
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: about this is a perfect time to see what type

1074
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: of adjustments that this team has made post by because

1075
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: figure it's been fifteen days since they last played, and

1076
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: when you are in your bye week, that's the thing

1077
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: you're doing, not only doing a self evaluation of you

1078
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: as a football player, because you know what you put

1079
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: out there for the first day games the eye and

1080
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the sky does not lie, and if you don't make

1081
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: the corrections, other defensive ends or their defensive coordinators are

1082
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: going to try to attack it. And it's the same

1083
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: thing as a coach and in their schemes of what

1084
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: you're doing, we're doing this well offensively, we're not doing

1085
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: well this offensively. Let's tweak this, let's do that. But

1086
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: that's what we need to see out of this game,

1087
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: is how are they going to execute and what changes

1088
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: have they made to help them move forward and make

1089
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: progress as a football team. And it's gonna come down

1090
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: to the fundamentals blocking, tackling, catching the football, and playing

1091
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: smart football by executing and not being the one to

1092
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: shoot yourself in the foot, by stoop penalties, prestep Pedally's

1093
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: late hits. Those are the things that in games like

1094
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: this and which we've seen in the first eight games,

1095
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: have lost games for us exactly. And don't you think, David,

1096
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: like when we get down you know, in the in

1097
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: the in the red Stone, and we're inside the ten

1098
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: yard line, we're on the five or the four, and

1099
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: we have been a couple of times, you know, don't

1100
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: you think it would be a good idea to bring

1101
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: in a jumble line and bringing a full back and

1102
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: another tight end that they actually blocked like ellis Um

1103
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: and just run the ball and just let Barkley run

1104
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: the ball. I think one thing that held held that

1105
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: back a little bit, obviously, you know, with Wheeler getting

1106
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: moved in and out and then switching the right tackle.

1107
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: It limits you on how you do the jumbo with

1108
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: the tight end. But having said that, I've always been

1109
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: a firm believer in that. Think about we used to

1110
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: have with rich Soyberg sixty nine eligible. If you go

1111
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: back to this weekend, George PM for the Seattle Seahawks

1112
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: is an offensive tackle, he was playing jumbo tight end.

1113
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: If you go to the New Orleans Saints, bush Rod,

1114
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: who's the offensive tackle, was playing tight end. So those

1115
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: are definitely things that you can do to go down

1116
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: in there and play smash mouth football. But having said that,

1117
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: that's on you as an offensive line to get that

1118
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: job done good. And I just want to say something

1119
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: about a mama, oh mommy, but a great deal of

1120
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: respect that you showcase to knowing his name correctly before you,

1121
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: butchery leave it to you. He's not will Beattie. That's

1122
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: the problem. So you know he doesn't have a soft

1123
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: spot in your heart. Yes, go ahead, but I just

1124
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: gotta say, you know I've said this before. When he

1125
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: was playing with Jacksonville, he played the left side, as

1126
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, but he also played right next to left

1127
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: tackle Brandon Albert. Who's a pretty good left tackle, and

1128
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: he comes over here, we asked him to go to

1129
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: the right side, and I don't know if they even

1130
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: knew if he could play the right. Well, that's what

1131
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, Charlie, That's exactly what we

1132
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: were saying earlier. We talked about how things drastically changed

1133
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: once he signed. The intent was left guard. He moves

1134
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: to right, and to your point, he's going from playing

1135
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: next to a left tackle in Jacksonville to now playing

1136
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: next to Eric Flowers, who, by the way, is also

1137
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: changing positions. Yet two guys on the right side at

1138
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: the start of this season in completely new spots that

1139
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: they hadn't been. But the one thing to go along

1140
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: with that, regardless of whether you have a good tackle

1141
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: next year or not, that should, in no way, shape

1142
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: or form hurt you in the run game like it

1143
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: did for him going from Jacksonville to this season. That's

1144
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: fair one thing in past protection, if you have a

1145
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: solid tackle and you play guard, believe me, I understand.

1146
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: But it's another thing in the run game. It doesn't

1147
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: matter about your tackle. You need to beat your man

1148
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: and move him from point A to point be up

1149
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: against his own will and it doesn't matter who's next

1150
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: to you on that point when your blocks. Yeah, well,

1151
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: there's not too many people like David Deal and Kevin

1152
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Booth who can move all over the place right left tackle, guard.

1153
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: And sometimes we think, and I think the Giants have

1154
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: done this Will a lot of offensive lineman. They try

1155
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: to play him in too many different positions instead of

1156
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: having him home in on just one and become really

1157
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: good at just one position. And we look at all

1158
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen we've gone through when we try to

1159
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: make them a left tackle, right tackle, and we try

1160
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: to make them a right guard or left guard, and

1161
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you you shoot yourself to a foot

1162
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: by doing that. I'm gonna I'm gonna give a little

1163
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: sentimental story here that sure, you know, to go along

1164
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: with the versatility and to go along with that, people thought,

1165
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, me coming to the Giants, that this is

1166
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: something that I could just do it as seem we'll see,

1167
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: I did a run and run. This is something that

1168
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: happened to me in college to where I used to

1169
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: go back and I used to go back every single

1170
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: summer right before the start of training camp, you know,

1171
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: because you're living down and I was living in Champagne

1172
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: at the University of Illinois. You're working out, you're training,

1173
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: and they're taking classes. And I'll never forget before my

1174
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: junior season having a conversation with my dad thinking about

1175
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: transferring because I wasn't starting at that point, I was

1176
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: playing every single position on the line. This person get hurt.

1177
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: I'd moved there, this person get hurt. I was mr

1178
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: versatility where I knew that if they just put me

1179
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: at one spot, I knew that was better than the

1180
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: one player there. Unfortunately, his parents donated five million dollars

1181
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: at a university, but that's outside of that. But the

1182
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: thing that happened was I'm moving. I'm moving to all

1183
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: these different spots, and I'm going to my dad and

1184
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, I want to transfer. I want to

1185
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: go someplace else. It's like, what are you talking about?

1186
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: He goes, do you love your teammates? I go yeah?

1187
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: He goes, Do you love school there? He goes yeah.

1188
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: He goes, so why do you want to do that?

1189
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: I go because I'm moving around, I'm not getting a

1190
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: fair shot. He goes, so, what you mean to tell

1191
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: me if this guy gets hurt, you moved there and

1192
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: you play there. I'm like, yeah, he goes, Well, what

1193
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: about if this guy gets moved? He goes, he gets hurt?

1194
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: You moved there? I'm like, yeah, he goes. Don't you

1195
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: think that's pretty damn important that they trust you and

1196
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: they know that you can do that. I go, well, yeah, dad,

1197
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: he goes. Don't you think that that means more to

1198
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: your teammates and to your coaches that you're willing to

1199
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: sacrifice for the football team than think? I'm like, well yeah,

1200
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: And he's like, so, then what the hell are we

1201
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: talking about here? And that was something that I needed

1202
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: in my mind and in my head to realize, Okay,

1203
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these things, but in the long run,

1204
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out. It's no coin coincidence that the

1205
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: reason why I was drafted in the fifth round by

1206
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: the Giants was not only did I run the same

1207
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: offense for five years under Ron Turner in college, so

1208
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: all I had to do is switch round. Was the

1209
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: terminology was the fact that I could play all those

1210
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: positions and I did it at an early age when

1211
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: I started off as a freshman by moving around. So

1212
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: it does. It takes time, and it's not as easy

1213
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: as people think. Yeah, exactly, you know, and I think,

1214
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: like I just gonna say something about the game tonight.

1215
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: I finally think, I know, I've been thinking this for

1216
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: a while, but I think our offense is gonna explode tonight.

1217
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: I think we're going to score over forty points. I

1218
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: think O'Dell is going to have a couple of touchdowns,

1219
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: just not three. I think, finally this offense is going

1220
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: to explode. This has been like a volcano that has

1221
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: just been ready and ready, and finally I think it's

1222
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: going to explode tonight. And who knows what's going to

1223
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: happen after that? Once this gets ignited, This offense actually

1224
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: can you know, you know, just explodes to potential. Who

1225
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: knows what can happen in the next Uh. Well, Charlie,

1226
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and you don't have anything to

1227
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: talk about in terms of moving offensive linemen around, I

1228
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna call us up for then

1229
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: moving you know, I don't know how greedy you should

1230
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: get for tonight. Not that I don't want to see

1231
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: the team score, but you've got an outlook out for

1232
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: your content moving forward. Here. One of the things to

1233
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: go along with Charlie's prediction. With O'Dell having two touchdowns tonight,

1234
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: one of the things that they need to do offensively

1235
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: outside of just running the football, they've got to make

1236
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: sure that they get the ball to Barkley and space,

1237
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: because if you do that, we know that every other

1238
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: defense knows that they're not going to take them down

1239
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: with one guy. Now, all of a sudden, that player

1240
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: that may be the double coverage guy that's on outside

1241
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: trying to get to Brackett to o b j all

1242
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he may have to play down a

1243
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: little more shallow, which is going to open up those

1244
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: opportunities outside. And the Niners are banged up in the

1245
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: secondary to begin with, plus there down Reuben Foster, one

1246
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: of their top linebackers. So this is an attractive matchup

1247
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: to your point, Charlie, and we'll let you go on

1248
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: that note. Appreciate the phone call, Thanks so much for

1249
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: weighing in. So you know, it's about execution, It's about

1250
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that Pat Shermer's repeated over

1251
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: and over again. We've repeated over and over again. They

1252
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: gotta do it, though, I mean, you can only talk

1253
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: so much about it because Eli Sterling, Shepard ode Beck

1254
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: and they were all asked coming out of the bye

1255
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: when you went back, you looked at the film what

1256
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: jumped out to you? What was your biggest takeaway? And

1257
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: their answers were identical because they're all seeing it. I mean,

1258
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realize

1259
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: that they have the ability to move the football. They

1260
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: just need to eliminate the mental errors and mistakes that

1261
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: are plaguing them in the red zone. The big thing

1262
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: that for me in this football game that this reminds

1263
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: me of a very similar type of field that I

1264
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: had last year with this football team going to San Francisco.

1265
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: The biggest factors for me for the Giants to win

1266
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: this football game that's been embedded me. Number one, zero turnovers.

1267
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: They cannot turn over the football. And the last thing

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Speaker 1: that will be an indicator coach golfin news to always

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Speaker 1: say three to one, no more than three penalties by

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Speaker 1: the offense, no more than two by the defense, and

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Speaker 1: one by special teams. Anything over that is going to

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Speaker 1: hurt this football team tonight. And that's a great point

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Speaker 1: because I look back eleven penalties they had against the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: That was a season high, and it was across Ferris

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Speaker 1: Spieler eleven yet eleven times four on offense, five on defense,

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Speaker 1: two on special teams. So everybody had their hands in

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Speaker 1: that three to one, zero turnovers three to one, because

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Speaker 1: those have also been killers on offense. The the false starts,

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Speaker 1: the procedural penalties dave have just plagued this team as

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Speaker 1: well because it has everything out of the momentum, in

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Speaker 1: the flow of the game and the pace at what

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Speaker 1: you're trying to play. And one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I would like to see is is a little bit

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Speaker 1: more up tempo in this game. Not to sit there

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Speaker 1: and rattle off as many plays as possible, but to

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Speaker 1: get up to the line of scrimmage to dictate the

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Speaker 1: tempo and not let them adjust defensively. You can take

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Speaker 1: that clock down as much as you wanted to, but

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Speaker 1: just to be the one controlling the pace of the

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Speaker 1: football game to change it up. And before we wrap up,

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Speaker 1: just want to take a quick glance at Twitter. Somebody

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Speaker 1: called in complimented your hat. Well, it seems to be

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Speaker 1: a big chatter on Twitter as well also. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and on that subject, in all seriousness, since Veterans Day

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Speaker 1: was officially yesterday, we do want to wish the best

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Speaker 1: to all that have served this great country, especially those

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Speaker 1: within the Giants family. We thank you for your service

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Speaker 1: and we salute you with respect because of the brave

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Speaker 1: my father was in the Air Force, so I major

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Speaker 1: respect and a thanks to all of you out there.

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Speaker 1: So Monday Night football Tonight, Niners in the Giants at

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Speaker 1: Levi Stadium in the Bay Area will have our pregame

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Speaker 1: show on w f a N Sports Radio sixty six

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Speaker 1: one on one point nine FM starting at sixty five,

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Speaker 1: and then the MSG postgame show will be coming up

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Speaker 1: following the game, so stay tuned for that. We'll have

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Speaker 1: postgame coverage on w f a N. Stay locked to

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com for all the latest. David has been

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun as usual. Indeed, we appreciate the

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Speaker 1: fall calls and the tweets. Thanks to Vernon, our producer,

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Speaker 1: for his assistance for David deal On. Lance Meadow enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the rest of your Monday right here on Giants dot com.

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