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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, All right, break it down. If you ever

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<v Speaker 1>have feelings that you just wonsome Amy and Cat gotcha

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<v Speaker 1>covin locking, no brother, the lady's quotes, you just follow

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<v Speaker 1>Anna spirit Ware, tell the phone over real stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>the chill stuff and the.

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<v Speaker 2>M but Swayne. Sometimes the best thing you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jes stop you feel things.

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<v Speaker 2>This is feeling things with Amy and Kat.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy, I'm Kat,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna kick things off with a quote like

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<v Speaker 3>we used to on the Fifth Thing back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I love so if you're an og listener, you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get this. If you're new, welcome. Here's a

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<v Speaker 3>quote that I saw today in my Anna Voss Whimsy newsletter.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her newsletters so much, which we have a

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<v Speaker 3>newsletter too. If y'all want to sign up, you can.

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<v Speaker 3>The link is in the show notes. This quote is

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<v Speaker 3>unknown and it's if you fail, congratulations. Most people don't

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<v Speaker 3>even try.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>So good. Whatever you're doing, just go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're doing more.

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<v Speaker 3>There are things that I've wanted to do recently and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I don't really want to pour myself

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<v Speaker 3>into that. Because it's already seems hard, and what if

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<v Speaker 3>we fail at it anyway? And now I'm walking in

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<v Speaker 3>on some stuff and I'm dialed in and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay, we're going to get this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's so interesting to me and it

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<v Speaker 2>helps me try. Is that a lot of times the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we don't try is because we don't want to fail,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't want people to see us being a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times, yeah, well, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>when people watch somebody try and fail, they're still in

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<v Speaker 2>awe of them. Like if if you put yourself out

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<v Speaker 2>there and did something and it didn't work out, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, good for her, And so actually failing works

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<v Speaker 2>out for us, Like it's us that would be down

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<v Speaker 2>on ourselves for it not working out.

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<v Speaker 3>There people are like, yeah, but if someone happened to

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<v Speaker 3>have other feelings, like oh they got some weird joy

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<v Speaker 3>out of your failure, then that's a messed up thing

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<v Speaker 3>that they should deal with. You don't need to worry

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<v Speaker 3>about them anyways. The people do get joy out of

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<v Speaker 3>or like huh, or I knew they weren't going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do it, but I think that's their

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<v Speaker 3>own fear.

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<v Speaker 2>And that also they aren't gonna root for you if

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<v Speaker 2>you do well. Neither are those same people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, our feelings of the day. Mine is

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<v Speaker 3>nervous because I watched that document around Netflix that you

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<v Speaker 3>told us to watch a toxic love story, and now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nervous to date, get married anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I don't want to say too much because there's

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<v Speaker 3>some twists, okay for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But also there are some twists for sure, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are red flags on everybody's part and I do not

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen to anybody. And I clocked some things

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<v Speaker 2>that if I saw happening with you, I'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Knock, like open your eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you probably wouldn't let it go to the point

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<v Speaker 3>of where it went in these relationships, like so we

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be buying condos or getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>Or within a couple weeks two months.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, I get it. There's definitely red flags, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scary, no, I mean, there's so many stories

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<v Speaker 2>like that, remember the Tinder Swindler all those So okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm a little I'm just a little nervous, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>And don't worry. I haven't made a LinkedIn profile or

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<v Speaker 3>anything because Ceraently that's all the rage now.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't give up on it just because because then

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm gonna feel bad because I recommended you to

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<v Speaker 2>watch that. Yeah, and then that would have backfired.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, well I'm not going to give up, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay to having to work out there. Just like

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<v Speaker 3>every week, I'm showing more clues of hell. It's the wild,

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<v Speaker 3>wild West, and I should just enjoy my little life,

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<v Speaker 3>me and my dog and my cat and my kids occasionally.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I always like want my kids, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have them all the time all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Well, I'm feeling frazzled because I almost died.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh again, No, that was your baby fire. Your baby's

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<v Speaker 3>almost died twice. But now you and the baby on

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<v Speaker 3>this side.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she might not have made it either. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was on my way here and you had just

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<v Speaker 2>called me. So this is crazy. This is what got

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<v Speaker 2>me thinking, really, is have you ever been somebody's like

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<v Speaker 2>last phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Which let me set the scene for y'all. Kat walked

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<v Speaker 3>in and she's out of breath and she's just feeling

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<v Speaker 3>very frazzled. Is a good word, like you were frazzled

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<v Speaker 3>and you were like you were almost the last person

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<v Speaker 3>I ever talked to, and I'm like, tell me more.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like hot in the zone.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I was working, yes, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it fully registered how much your life was in danger.

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<v Speaker 3>So why don't you tell us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not that. I mean, it's simple. I just

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<v Speaker 2>was at a stoplight and a fire truck was coming

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<v Speaker 2>from behind and I couldn't turn because there was oncoming

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<v Speaker 2>traffic and also the the fire truck was not in

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<v Speaker 2>my lane, but then right before it got in my lane,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was like, what am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, usually you pull off the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road. I was in the middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't pull off the side, and I couldn't turn,

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<v Speaker 2>and it literally, you guys, can't if you're not watching

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<v Speaker 2>this on YouTube, which you could watch this on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted it. Last minute did this swerve like

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<v Speaker 2>he was. They were coming full force at me. I

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<v Speaker 2>literally was looking in my rearview mirror being like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, what do I do do I pull into

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the road and then it last minute

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<v Speaker 2>went around me. And I almost died, so.

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<v Speaker 3>First I could have flit. Second, you thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to injure you on her way to an emergency, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't register at first, like I think, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that was crazy. And then as I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>get food and I was walking out of picking up

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<v Speaker 2>my food, and I was like, oh my gosh, Amy

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<v Speaker 2>was almost the last person I ever talked to. That's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And it made me think about, like, what are the

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<v Speaker 2>last texts that I've sent? What's the last thing I

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<v Speaker 2>said to my husband, which was I miss you and

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<v Speaker 2>few yeah, and that was this when at like eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, so he'd like left for work and you're already

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<v Speaker 3>like I miss you.

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<v Speaker 2>You left at like six something probably, but.

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<v Speaker 3>And then at ate you just texted him I miss you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I was thinking like Amy would be the

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<v Speaker 2>last person that I talked to, Like what would she

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<v Speaker 2>tell people about like how I was, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I was like super cheery, but I won't want

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<v Speaker 2>people to know I was like in a good mood

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<v Speaker 2>before I died.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he offered to give me a salad.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that, But then I was thinking like, have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever been somebody's last Like, were the last person

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<v Speaker 2>somebody talked to before they died? Were you with like

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<v Speaker 2>your mom or your Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was with both of them when they died, but

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<v Speaker 3>they were both unconscious. Oh both my mom we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to unplug. She just slowly left her body over

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of days. And then my dad we

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<v Speaker 3>had to unplug, and the doctor was like, this could

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<v Speaker 3>take anywhere from three minutes to three days. My dad

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<v Speaker 3>likes to go out, so he was pretty quick. He

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<v Speaker 3>was less than three minutes, so it was pretty Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well so that's a big Then I was just thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a lot to carry that, like you were

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<v Speaker 2>the last person.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we were talking to them as if they

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<v Speaker 3>could hear us, but I didn't hear from them. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think those were we knew they were dying situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people, like in your case, this would have been

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<v Speaker 3>a so an unexpected event.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think of that when I get on an airplane

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<v Speaker 3>every almost every time I fly, I think, well, this

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<v Speaker 3>could be it, but I don't. I don't assess the

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<v Speaker 3>text messages that I've sent. I should start doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>like take notes, like you're such an amazing person in front.

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<v Speaker 3>Like every time I fly, I said like the nicest

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<v Speaker 3>notes to everybody. So she just sent me the sweetest

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<v Speaker 3>text and then she died. She was so thoughtful who

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<v Speaker 3>she was. I'll always be remembered. I just did not

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<v Speaker 3>like fifty texts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling better actually, now that we're talking about I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel frazzled anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I just was. I see. So sometimes it's good naming it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then talking about it, and then the feeling will go.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably knew what they were doing. They probably knew

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to do that swerve. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to do that swerve. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a question that doesn't come up, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that you said before we hit record,

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<v Speaker 3>and I made a mental note, yeah to ask you this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>why did you say you were going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>history major? Because before we hit record, Kat and I

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<v Speaker 3>were just talking about the news article from a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks ago where in Arizona there's a college that

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<v Speaker 3>has made influencing a major, and so this is just

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<v Speaker 3>casual conversation and then we got sidetracked because other people

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<v Speaker 3>were coming in and we were about to record. But

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<v Speaker 3>you casually said, well, I was going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>history major, and my dad said he wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for it. And I thought, in my head, Kat

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<v Speaker 3>is a therapist. What would she have done with a

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<v Speaker 3>history major, and why did you want to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's my dad's point is the question

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<v Speaker 2>is asked, like, what are you going to do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know what I wanted to be. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not know what I wanted to major in. When

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<v Speaker 2>I went to school. I was a nursing major, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's just because I had no desire to be a

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<v Speaker 2>nurse at all. But my mom was a nurse, that

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<v Speaker 2>you could make a good living being a nurse. And

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<v Speaker 2>I I liked my anatomy class and in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't even look at a cut on my

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<v Speaker 2>own hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Seem like I pass out at the sight of blood.

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<v Speaker 2>I could like cut my thumb open a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and I had to like change the bandage

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<v Speaker 2>every day, and I couldn't even do it. Patrick had

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. That's how bad I can't. So I

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<v Speaker 2>took one nursing class or one intro and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to change my major, but then I had

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<v Speaker 2>never thought about it, so I think I changed it

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<v Speaker 2>to like fashion merchandising at first, because that's like what

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<v Speaker 2>cool girls were doing back then. But then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really good at this, that's not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I was like, well, then I'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>business major, like a just a marketing major or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then whatever. So then I took my intro your

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<v Speaker 2>US History class in freshman year and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Loved it, really I.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved it, except I do have one traumatic story from

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<v Speaker 2>that class. But I loved learning about because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like in high school I never really paid attention to history,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, i'll read this and have this test,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't really realizing what I was learning is

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<v Speaker 2>like real.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, So was your professor really good? Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that played a role in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say that, though, because this professor

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<v Speaker 2>made me cry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so is this a traumatic story?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I it's looking back, it's not that big

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<v Speaker 2>of a deal, but it was a big deal to me. Then.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those like big auditorium classes because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody had to take it, and I had asked if

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<v Speaker 2>I could take my midterm or my final early because

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<v Speaker 2>I loved, really I loved six hours away from where

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<v Speaker 2>I went to school, and I was trying to ride

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<v Speaker 2>home with my sister and she was leaving earlier, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no big deal, Like who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>take their test early? Like surely she'll be like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a good student for wanting to do that. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>reply to my email, and then she scolded me in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the whole class how dare I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>And asked that I but in an auditorium style class,

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<v Speaker 3>she called you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing. She didn't say who did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she said I got an email from one of

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<v Speaker 2>you asking she never responded to me, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>responded to me without naming me in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole class. But obviously I'm like bright red. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was basically like, you knew the schedule before, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the crime the punishment didn't fit the crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't understand her saying no, you can't, but

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<v Speaker 2>why did you have to? It was mean, like she

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<v Speaker 2>was angry. I don't know what was going on with

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<v Speaker 2>her that day. She also she was British. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>that about her to me, that's why I liked.

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<v Speaker 3>She was British teaching American history.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know then later What's what's crazy is

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<v Speaker 2>later when I was I was because I was a

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<v Speaker 2>child and Family studies major, and so I had to

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<v Speaker 2>work in the daycare on like the child development center

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<v Speaker 2>on our campus. I had to care for her child.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so what'd you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I didn't hurt the child, obviously, I cared for

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<v Speaker 2>the child well, but I just was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to like this kid because your mom wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to me. But like she probably doesn't even remember,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like full circle. It's like I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the bigger person, you know, not put this

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<v Speaker 2>child in danger anyway. So I can't all have to

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<v Speaker 2>say I didn't. I don't like that teacher. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want I don't want to say it was her. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the content. I just really liked learning

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<v Speaker 2>about history. So I told my dad I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a history major, thinking I could be a professor.

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<v Speaker 3>And you would be a nice one. If someone needed

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<v Speaker 3>to take their exam early.

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<v Speaker 2>I would totally let them because a what a good

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<v Speaker 2>student and my Dad's response was, I'm not paying for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because what are you going to do? I think his

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<v Speaker 2>point was, I've never heard you talk about this before,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not like you grew up love going to

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<v Speaker 2>museums and stuff and you're really enthralled in it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I like it was very random, and he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>me to spend a lot of time and then have

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<v Speaker 2>a major that I couldn't use to do what I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, sort of a dead end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I didn't know what I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was hard. And guys, that's okay. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>a freshman, you don't really have to know.

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<v Speaker 3>When did you realize you wanted to be a therapist?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not till I was a junior, because I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up changing my major to Child and Family Studies, which

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know was a thing. That's the other You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we probably have a lot of high schoolers listening, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't know all the options. That was part

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<v Speaker 2>of my problem. That's joking, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we maybe have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So once I learned more, I had met somebody

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<v Speaker 2>at a camp. I was working at a young life

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<v Speaker 2>camp in the summer and my boss was a child

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<v Speaker 2>of Family studies major. I'd never heard of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I want to do you working

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<v Speaker 2>at Young Life Camp, I want to do that. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do that major, and so I changed my major to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my advisor was also a therapist, and she

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged me to take a marriage of family therapy class

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<v Speaker 2>and I loved it, and so then I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I know two people later in life that their adults,

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<v Speaker 3>their moms that have since gone back to get their

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<v Speaker 3>degree and whatever other things you need to do to

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<v Speaker 3>become a licensed therapist. But it was a It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>something they did early on in their twenties. They pursued

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<v Speaker 3>it later in their forties and they really love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think because there was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>in my class when I was in grad school. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't all people that just graduated school. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty diverse. I think that being older going

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<v Speaker 2>back because a lot of people don't want to restart.

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<v Speaker 2>They think it's going to be so hard, which it

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<v Speaker 2>is hard, but that keeps a lot of people from

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<v Speaker 2>making changes. But what I saw from the people that

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<v Speaker 2>were older and our cohort was they had a This

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<v Speaker 2>is from my perspective, it was easier for them because

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<v Speaker 2>when they were interns or new nobody assumed that they

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<v Speaker 2>were new or interns because they were older, versus I'm

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two trying to give therapy to a forty five

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<v Speaker 2>year old, and that person's probably like, what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>do you know? You know what I mean? But they

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<v Speaker 2>come with a certain amount of life experience. But also

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<v Speaker 2>I think just because they're older, just.

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<v Speaker 3>The look of Lisnes, yes, the perceived Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always was very jealous of them, like, dang it,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll get there. Yeah, when you were talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>in school daycare and caring for your mean professor's child,

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<v Speaker 3>and then also liking you as history, it made me

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<v Speaker 3>think about the book that I'm reading right now, which

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<v Speaker 3>is The Calamity Club. Now it's fiction, but you get it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some history intertwined. It's during the Great Depression, and

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<v Speaker 3>there is a situation of someone having to care for

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<v Speaker 3>someone else's child and that they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, they don't want the child or the well person.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give away too much, but it

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<v Speaker 3>made me think of that storyline of having someone in

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<v Speaker 3>your care and let's just say she's doing the opposite

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<v Speaker 3>of you. You're like, no, I wasn't gonna treat the

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<v Speaker 3>child any differently. That was not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give myself that much credit because

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<v Speaker 2>I was also getting graded.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so if you weren't getting graded, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope I wouldn't. But you never know you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to pick her child up early, you'd be like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't pick her up early, keeping her you have to.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't pick her up till five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew the hours, you knew four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we already had. I'm already scheduled, did be here

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<v Speaker 3>till five? So your kids staying here till five? You

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<v Speaker 3>should have known better, and you make this big announcement. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So that is Kat's journey to becoming a therapist and

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<v Speaker 3>not a history professor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would have been. I do think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have really liked teaching. I will say that I

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<v Speaker 2>would have liked teaching college. I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 2>have liked teaching high school or middle school, eleentary school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something crazy. This is a callback from last week.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about the Golden Girls thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because my friend wanted to know if I would

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<v Speaker 3>live with her in a Golden Girls type house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so we talked about that, and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about I don't know if it was on that same

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<v Speaker 2>episode or the Couch Talks episode that week, but we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Logan Uri. You remember that she's a dating

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<v Speaker 2>coach and she has a Netflix show. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it's called like Later Daters or something that I

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<v Speaker 2>could have made that up, but it's about older people dating,

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<v Speaker 2>like not like a twenty year old dating show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it was crazy. We talked about those two things. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>what what she lives in a commune with her twenty

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<v Speaker 2>best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>She does, and she's like young, so she's single.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that some of them have families because

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<v Speaker 2>she talked about how they spend time with their kids

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And right, it's not just girls the greatest friends. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like the Golden Girls where they've all ended up

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<v Speaker 3>a single on the way in their life. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>more of a compound, like the family compounds you see

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes where everybody's living together and they have a shared pool.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I saw something pop up on my Instagram the

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<v Speaker 3>other day of like all these cousins that live on

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of property together and they built one huge

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<v Speaker 3>pool in the middle of all this property, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was probably it looks like a hotel, like twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>lounge chairs, but all the cousins live there and then

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<v Speaker 3>all of their kids, and they would all just yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like, oh, we had to pay to put

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<v Speaker 3>a pool in. You got to split it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can make it really eight ways or however many. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The show is called The Later Daters.

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<v Speaker 2>You write, it's cute. And so I watched her. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>a client of mine told me about that show. So

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a couple episodes, and there was a tip

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<v Speaker 2>that I want, I want to give this to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you might not need it, but also I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give this because this is something that I

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<v Speaker 2>can see helping. I mean, it's helped me, just as

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<v Speaker 2>like a person who doesn't feel like they do the

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<v Speaker 2>best with small talk. So she was talking to this

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<v Speaker 2>sweet woman, oh my gosh, you have to watch at

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<v Speaker 2>least one episode of this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I totally will, and kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of coaching her on how to start the date and

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<v Speaker 2>how to because she was I don't know what questions

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<v Speaker 2>do I ask or what if there's an awkward silence or something,

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<v Speaker 2>And so she said, a anti small talk technique is

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<v Speaker 2>called in I don't know how this is really said

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<v Speaker 2>because it's Latin, but in media res, which means in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of things. So she said, instead of sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down and asking somebody like where are you from or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, start talking about something that you were just doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like you are jumping into a conversation. So

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<v Speaker 2>you sit down and you say hello, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, on the way here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was almost died.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an interesting way to start the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>But you were here. You were almost the last person

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<v Speaker 3>I ever texted.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't give that example. She gave the example of

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the way here and I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this podcast and I heard this crazy thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to share it with you. And then that just

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<v Speaker 2>like gets you guys talking, and then you are learning

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<v Speaker 2>about the person, like their personality versus just like facts

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.760
<v Speaker 2>about them. And then she said you can always once

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<v Speaker 2>you go through that, like who knows where it will lead,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always come back to the where are you from?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what do you do for work? You can always

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 2>come back to those questions, but it just is an

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<v Speaker 2>easy way to jump in and feel like you guys

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<v Speaker 2>kind of already know each other in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like after watching a toxic love story, I

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<v Speaker 3>would sit down and be like, so, I just watched

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<v Speaker 3>this documentary a toxic love story, and I need to

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<v Speaker 3>know your thoughts on this particular thing. The one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that the guy is this is not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a spoiler of the show at all, whatsoever, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot happening in this love triangle situation. I will

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<v Speaker 3>what I think is okay to say. If you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to know, I don't know, hit the fast forward button.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty seconds. He asked someone he was dating or married to,

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever their relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>Was to.

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<v Speaker 3>That he wanted to watch her be with somebody else,

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<v Speaker 3>and she had zero desire to do that. And also

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<v Speaker 3>she said that sort of came out of nowhere. It

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<v Speaker 3>really wasn't his. He was sort of she was girl

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 3>next door. He was guy next door.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look like a Disney adult, like wholesome.

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Wholesome, right, And then one day out of the blue,

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.640
<v Speaker 3>he hits her with that question. And she's saying no, no, no,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 3>no no, until I guess do people just get worn

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<v Speaker 3>down and then they don't want to lose the person

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 3>so they give in. And she ultimately gave in to

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 3>his request because she thought, if I do this, then

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 3>it'll he'll get it out of his system and we

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 3>won't have to worry about it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so now I feel like my question is going

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 3>to be, like, do you ever have this desire? Because

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 3>if we do, like I'm out, let me know, let

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 3>me know now, just let me know now. Because that

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 3>just was such a I was shocked that she was

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 3>so against it and then ultimately she was worn down

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and decided to do it. And I'm sure there's a

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 3>lot of people they get in those situations where they

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 3>end up doing stuff that they don't want to do,

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 3>and they had a firm boundary to begin with. But

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.959
<v Speaker 3>if people are relentless and depending on the emotional abuse

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 3>and a relationship or whatever's taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think I could be wrong about this.

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure she hadn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Dated a lot, she correct, and she was young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she didn't know how Probably she didn't have

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>the awareness she has now of like how abnormal and scary.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>That is not for somebody to request that so much,

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<v Speaker 2>but for somebody to not listen to you and.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to what you're saying. Yeah, because she did say

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 3>you're right. She did say maybe this is just how

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 3>all relationships.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Are because she had already built I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>something because at first I'm like, why would you do that?

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 2>But she had already built a lot of trust with

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>this person, and so this is she thinks this way,

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 2>So she's seen it through that lens of This is

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>a good guy. He doesn't want to hurt me. This

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 2>is just something he wants. So maybe if I give

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>it to him, then we can move forward. Versus if

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that was a stranger or somebody you didn't have trust

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>built with, and that's where a lot of manipulation happens.

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, I already this is who I think

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 2>this person is, so they can't be doing this to

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 2>hurt me or because they don't care about me, or

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>because they're a bad person.

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So do you think that's a good eye spraker

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 3>or no?

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>You know what I actually do think it would be

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>if you went on a date and you had just

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>watched the show it would be funny to sit down

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh my gosh, I just watched this

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>documentary last night called a Toxic Love Story, and it's

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>making me feel a little nervous to be here with you.

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Like to make a joke out of it, But if

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 2>you sit down in your seriously like, have you ever

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to watch your partner be intimate with somebody else? Seriously?

0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he would have been like that person might

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 2>be a little off put right.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Then he's going to be like, how do I end

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 3>this date?

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<v Speaker 1>Pivot?

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 3>What did you say the other day or like a

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 3>couple last week or the week before you were talking

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 3>about how you and one of your dates you went

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>on it was thirty five minutes long.

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that one would probably end pretty sooner

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>than that.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>So sometimes on dates you may have a little nightcap.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>But I have a new version of a night cap. Okay,

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Now the nightcap could be with you, your friends, someone

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 3>you went on a date with, yourself, your kids, whatever,

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 3>however you want to see this nightcap because really it's

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 3>just the acronym of cap cap and it's good to

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 3>do at night. Okay, So cap your day off with

0:26:55.880 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 3>this see celebrate even the tiniest win. Maybe it's unloading

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the dishwasher that counts, So see for celebrate, that's.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>A big deal. I hate unloading the dishwasher. I will

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>take one thing out of time. Out of a time, I'll.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Take a couple of things out and then reload it

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 3>with new stuff and run it again. Okay, A appreciate

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>something from your day, no matter how small, like unloading

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 3>the dish I didn't get hit by that fire.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Try and if I did, that's so sweet that any

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been my last phone call.

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Yes, pee, prioritize one to three things for tomorrow so

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 3>your brain can rest easy tonight. So that is your nightcap. Celebrate, appreciate, prioritize.

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean you probably don't want to do that with

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>your date. I guess you could, or your husband you

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 3>might be able to.

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>You could do that, Like, you could do that after

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>you're dating.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 4>You're like, I unloaded the dishwashers, like, oh, you're a winner.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 4>And then you're like you give something you appreciate, and

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 4>then you're like, all right, what's our to do list

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>for tomorrow? Really it's just a little prompt for you

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 4>to have I like it. Cat which thinking of the

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 4>things we like.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Kat put some sentences that rewired this girl's brain. Alex

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Aubrey poetry on Instagram, and Kat listed all the ones

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 3>that were her favorite, and I thought, Okay, Kat can

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 3>go over this. But Kat is very, very pregnant, and

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 3>she was like, can you read the sentences because I

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm going to be out of bread. Yeah,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>so I can read them and then we can.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can tell you them, and I can tell

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you which one is my favorite.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I already have my favorite, ok because I read

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 3>over them as well. Okay, let's see if fars are

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:53.239
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. Okay, this is the first sentence that

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 3>rewired Alex's brain. Never tell a person to be strong

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 3>when they come to you to be weak.

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I really like that. I do too. Patrick and I

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 2>were watching like a I think it was a TikTok.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>It did make me cry. It was like, oh, it

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>was an Instagram carousel and it was like things that

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>every man should know that nobody tells you about pregnancy

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>or something. And one of them was like, when she's

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>screaming in pain, don't tell her that it doesn't hurt.

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, why would anybody's response to somebody

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>being in labor be like it doesn't hurt or it's

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>not that bad, and I'm like, I don't know, but

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody probably was saying that to be I mean, there's

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>probably a somebody out there that was like, well, if

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I tell them that they're fine and it's the pain's

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>not real, it's not that bad. I think that's what

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>it was. It's not that bad, then maybe that will

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>help them. And it's like that's It's the same kind

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>of idea there where if somebody needs to acknowledge where

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>they are and just like fall apart, there's a time

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and a place to remind somebody of their strength, and

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>then there's also a time and a place to just

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>let somebody fall apart.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>As a parent, that one really speaks to me as

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 3>sometimes our kids need to just fall apart at home

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>and they need to give them the space to do that.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Next one, the world around you is beautiful when the

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 3>world within you is peaceful. M I think that's the truth.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserved more.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>That's such a good one for reframing a situation.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love that one. I don't want to say

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it's my favorite because it sounds cliche, But the best

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>cliches are cliches because they're true. Yeah.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 3>No, I think this is excellent for that's exactly what

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 3>it is. It's a statement you can tell yourself to

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 3>try to reframe a scenario. And I don't think it

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 3>ignores what you went through, right, And that's the best

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>type of reframing. You can still acknowledge what you didn't

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>get and then say well, And it's even saying maybe, yeah, yeah,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe maybe you didn't get what you wanted because

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 3>you deserve more, so go find it.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will say in those moments, I'm like, well,

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what I deserve. This is what I want,

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, I don't care if I deserve somebody better.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>This is the person I want to be with. You

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>don't really feel the like, oh I get it until

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it happens, but I still love it.

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Next one, if your life for a twenty four hour day,

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 3>it would only be seven am when you're thirty years old.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a favorite one.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, explain that one.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't do the math on it, but I

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>guess because the day starts at twelve am. So when

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you're thirty, it's still only seven am, and then you

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>have so much time left because I think a lot

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 2>of people hit thirty or name whatever age it is

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, my life is almost over or I've

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>lived a third of my life or whatever. But when

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you look at it like that, it's seven am.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 3>The day is my oyster Like at forty five, do

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I really need to give up and move in with

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>my girlfriends in a golden girl's house because you probably

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 3>only like ten of us like a whole another chapter

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 3>with a partner somewhere now.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I will say this one does backfire when you get

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like seventy, because then it's probably getting into

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the evening hours.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, next one. I don't think bad things happen to

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 3>good people. I think bad things happen to everyone, and

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 3>the way good people respond is what makes them good.

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Aiming for a life full of we saw so many

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>cool places together and not we have so many cool things,

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's more about experiences versus possessions.

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I think, Well, I don't know that the

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>possessions thing fits, but I do think millennials are more

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>like the Seeson moment sees the day travel do things

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>while I can't spend the money, and we're seeing there's

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of I feel like we get a lot

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>of flak for that, but then we end up doing

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 2>so many. Yeah, we might not have all of retirement

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>saved up, but our life feels so full by like

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>age thirty five, you.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Know, next one, we don't see things as they are,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 3>We see things as we are.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Is that your favorite?

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna read them all and then I'm oh,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>my favorite. I thought we've you Okay, this is the

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 3>final one? How long are you willing to postpone the

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 3>life you want in exchange for the comfort of where

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>you are currently at? That reminds me of like the

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 3>one you like m the clock is ticking.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So which one is your favorite?

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserved more.

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh sweet, that would probably be my second.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just yeah, so good. Yeah, And it can apply

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 3>to so many different things. It doesn't even have to

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 3>be a romantic love. It can be with like or fertility, stuff, work,

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>other opportunities.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Anything, anything. Yeah. I like that. And again I think

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>that's one where you have to like just believe it

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>until it happens, because in the moment, you're going to

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>be like, well, I wanted that job, or I wanted

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to have a baby that way, or I wanted to

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>marry that loser.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I do like the one about aiming for a life

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>full of we saw so many cool places together versus

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>we have so many cool things. I do. I do

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>like that one.

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what do you got to go to Paris?

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know, I know, but when you look at

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 3>how far out you're supposed to plan a trip like that,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>an international trip like that, you know, when I got

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 3>word on my my next vacation was with not enough

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 3>time to build a trip to Paris like I would

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 3>want to build. So I'm still going to travel. I'm

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 3>like ninety nine zero point nine percent sure at this

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 3>point that I'm going to Ecuador to see my cousin Amanda.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 3>So I'm still leaving that. I'm still gonna go do that.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 3>But I don't have to get a hotel, I don't

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 3>have to go places she lives there. I'm gonna be

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 3>staying with her. She's telling me where to fly into,

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 3>where to fly out of. I'm gonna be She's got

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 3>our whole itinerary. We're going to go to her spa

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>that she likes, go to her workout places. We're gonna

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>hike like she has everything that We'll probably stay at

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 3>her house a lot in our jammis and just talk

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 3>because our moms would love that, because that's what our

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 3>moms used to do together. Yeah, wake up, have coffee

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 3>like that. Will That's an easy international trip that I

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 3>don't have to think on, and I just think I

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 3>need to be a little more proactive about figuring out, okay,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>when my vacations are going to be and then dial

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>in because I don't I thought about doing the whole

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 3>last minute thing, but that's a big investment to go

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>all the way there and not have a sufficient plan.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 2>There are people I have a friend when we went

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to I've only been on one big trip like that,

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>we went to Italy, so no expert in traveling. But

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who literally will decide two days

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>before and then take a flight and go to Europe.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been I know you're talking about, and I've

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 3>been motivated by her before.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>No, this is a different one. I said more than

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>one friend.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, she's okay, the girl you have so many

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 3>friends who you're tut her.

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>About does spontaneous stuff. But she did plan those couple trips.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I have another friend she just her and her husband

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 2>just travel everywhere. She like when I was telling her

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>about my trip to Italy, I was asking her of

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like advice, and then I was like, wait, you're the

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>person to ask because she's like, just show up in

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 2>the city and see where you can stay. And I'm

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>like absolutely not, Like, first of all, I don't know

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 2>how to get there. I don't know how to get

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know so no.

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>People they can live that way. That's amazing great not

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>for me, but also I could try it out. But

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I just when you start to look at the price

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>tag of everything, right, well that seems a lot.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>That's my big thing is I am gonna we spent

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>a good amount of money on that trip. I want

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.919
<v Speaker 2>to make sure it's what I want it to be, yes,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>versus just like hope it works out.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 5>And I want to know like the the you really

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 5>off the beaten path places to go, Like I sure

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 5>there's some big like the Louver, lad to go there,

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.479
<v Speaker 5>there's the Okay, I want to see the Eiffel Tower,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 5>Like there's some big ticket things where it's like those are.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Easy boxes to check. Yeah, but I also want to know.

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I just I was talking to my sister's mother in

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>law when I was in Colorado, and I think that's

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 3>what made me shift from like I probably should be

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 3>a little more patient with my planning and and try

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 3>to do Paris right because she was talking about all

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>the places she loves to go, and I want to

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 3>pull people and talk to people and figure out, Okay,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>you give me this restaurant, not just googling like, oh,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>this is the best restaurant to go to, Yeah, it

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 3>has all these reviews. I have people in my life

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>that have gone multiple times and go to different shops

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 3>there and look at antiques and see other historic things.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, I just want to mill about

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>on the streets.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I walk to mill.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>About and see those So uh. Another one made that

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>made me think of some decluttering tips that I know

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 3>that you have had in our Google dog for a while.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, maybe we give Kat the opportunity

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 3>to go over the decluttering tips because we see so

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 3>many cool places together versus we have so many cool things.

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 3>That's like we need to not buy more things we

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>need to declutter and then not just replace it with

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 3>more stuff, because I know you've been in a big

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 3>nesting phase. You've told us about it with the baby

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 3>coming and trying to get everything ready, and so I

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, these decluttering tips might come come in

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 3>clutch for some people, and I think I would like

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 3>to well, yeah, I know that.

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>In there because I was like, I think that was

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago when I was like, all

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to do was throw everything out, and like

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that's also not the way.

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 3>That's not the answer because then you end.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Up throwing things out that you actually cared about. You know.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a little behind the scenes baseball though, because

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I like when stuff ends up, like we have this

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Google doc and we add things take away, like cat

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 3>has a folder, I have a folder, and then we

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 3>have dates of episodes and they've got a folder and

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 3>this is one that has bounced around and so I've

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 3>dropped it in there and I'm like, we're doing it well.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Three tips on decluttering.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let me give them to you straight. Then

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>give it to me. Tip number one, use every cleaning

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>opportunity as a chance to rid your life. You know what,

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 2>you just did what you tricked me because I asked

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you to read the things before. I just started reading

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that sentence and I was like, I'm out around.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I can read them for you, but I wanted to

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 3>give you the credit of putting them in.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I can try. I try. Use every cleaning opportunity as

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>a chance to rid your life of unnecessary possessions. My

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>favorite minimalist move is to constantly be decluttering instead of

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out where everything should go. Always declutter

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>as I clean. It's easier to get rid of something

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 2>than create a new organizational system for it to fit

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>in your home. Which I like that. So like, as

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 2>you're cleaning, you don't have to have a declutter day

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 2>where I'm gonna throw stuff out. But as I'm cleaning,

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>if I don't have a home for something, instead of reorganizing,

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 2>ask myself, do I actually need this? Or do I

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 2>can I get rid of this? Because what I do

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>is I say I don't have a home for this,

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shove it in this drawer. Then one day

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the drawer stops shutting, you know, So that's tip number one.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Number two, have as many blank surfaces as you can.

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this is so hard for me. Stop

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>filling every shelf and see how you feel when there's

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 2>more room to breathe. Stop filling every shelf and see

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 2>how you feel when there's more room to breathe. Because

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 2>when you enter now, you don't want your house to

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 2>be blank. You know, you want there to be stuff.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>You want there to be yes, yeah, but you feel

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>different when you're in a house when there's stuff everywhere,

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and when it's you know, there's a method to the madness. However,

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Patrick and I were just talking about this because we

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>were We're almost done with the nursery and I was

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I haven't hung anything up, and he was like, Catherine,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you need to leave blank space on the wall. He

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm worried that every part of the wall

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 2>is going to have something on it. And I was like,

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>but I have so many things to put up, and

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to tell me you don't need to

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 3>So that was on the nursery wall.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna put this on this wall, and

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 2>i want a shelf on this wall, and I want

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>this mirror on this wall. And he was like, this

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>room is really small. You're going to make this he

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 2>said it a nice way. But then you know he

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the best design taste, so so what do

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you know? Yeah, I gave him one thing. I told

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>you about this, the tree. I said Patrick could pick

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 2>one thing out for the nursery because I felt back

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I made every decision, and I

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to put an olive tree in the corner.

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I've seen that olive tree.

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've seen that in there behind my head

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>right now. Yeah, and we both have a He said

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 2>he didn't like the look of the olives, so I said, okay,

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 2>well then you can pick out a tree to put here,

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and he ordered a seven foot ficus tree, which I

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>sent it to you.

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 3>That's all right, but it's not what I would pick out.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>It's huge, and it is either going back or it's

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely going somewhere else anyway.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not like the delicate, dainty baby vibes. Yeah,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 3>it's definitely.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>It was a hearty tree.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to fit. Yeah, but you've worked really

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>hard to curate and create.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Try to get I was trying to be cool. I

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was trying to like, do you pick it out whatever

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you want, It's okay. You tried. Yeah, I did try.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I just want him to He doesn't really care that much,

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>but I want him to feel like he's a part

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>of things, you know.

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure he's fine with like not.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he picked out some baskets in the closet for

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the glossic.

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>He picks some baskets that aren't going to be seen.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>They're actually really cute, Actually they're really they're pretty all right.

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>The third tip, remove some of your storage. The more

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>shelves and drawers and bins you have, the more you

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>fill them with stuff. Don't fall into the trap of

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>thinking that your organizational system is going to save you

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>from your clutter. Less storage means fewer belongings. I have

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>so much stuff in my garage, you know, on shelves

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that I probably will.

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Never Well, that's the thing that a lot of people

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 3>before you give birth, maybe if the nesting like really

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 3>kicks in and I know that you're a little out

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>of breath from top, But if you and Patrick and gosh,

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just summer and it's so hot in the garage's

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 3>the only thing that's like a negative for you right

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 3>now to go out there and tackle it. But before

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the baby comes because the next thing you know, you're

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 3>raising a child or multiple children for the next eighteen

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 3>plus years and you're not going to get to it,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and more stuff is going to add and pileon and

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 3>pile on. But that's where I was, like when my

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 3>parents passed away, my mom specifically, like having to go

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 3>through all of these things that I wish she would

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 3>have taken a little more time to declutter, because then

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 3>now I have to make this. It's like this emotional

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 3>heaviness and responsibility of now deciding, like now I have

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 3>to get rid of it, but I want to hold

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 3>on to it because it was my mom's. But if

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>she would have just done it for me, then I

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 3>would have been left with only important things I don't

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 3>want to keep, but to do it before they grow

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 3>up and then you die and they have to do

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 3>it for you.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And it is true, the more space you have, the

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 2>more stuff off you're keeping. Yes, So that's why in

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>like my last house, we didn't have barely any storage,

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>but now I have all these spaces I can keep things.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, don't add to it. Yeah, take this advice and

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>don't add to it just because you have what.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>A else fails to hire somebody to come help you

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 3>You know what I really want to do, and I'm

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 3>going to have to hire somebody or have a friend

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 3>to help me because it's just not my gift. Is

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 3>I want a photo gallery or a picture gallery up

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 3>my stairs? Oh yeah, where it's different sized frames, different

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 3>colored frames, like everything's really mismatched. Maybe it's family photos

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 3>mixed with art mixed with like everything. It looks like

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't go together, but that's intentional.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And you see, this is the thing about that is

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.919
<v Speaker 2>like you can do I can do that on my own.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>It will look like this doesn't go together, and it

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't go together. But if somebody else does, like you're saying, like,

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>hire somebody's help, they can make it look like this

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't go together, but it does. Like I don't. I

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have that gift either. I've tried to do a

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 2>gallery wall in mine.

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I took a screenshot of one. I don't know if

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 3>something popped up in my for you page, it wasn't

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 3>even about the gallery wall, but it was some woman.

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Her page popped up and she had any walking up

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 3>her stairs to go show something else, and I took

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 3>a screenshot of her gallery wall, and I'm like, that's it. Now,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I at least have the inspo and I can show

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 3>someone who can like help me and has that gift.

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know those people that will actually like get

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 3>construction paper and they'll cut out the size of the

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 3>picture frame and put it on the wall and trace

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 3>it and they like everything is mapped out or there's

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 3>blue tape or something like, I'm just a stick of

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 3>hammer in the wall and send a prayer. Yeah, but

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel like with a wall like that, I can't.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll end up with holes everywhere. If I was just

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 3>hanging one thing above, like the toilet, Okay, that's pretty easy,

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 3>because you can't. You can feel like I have AYE

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 3>all above your toilet. I know that's what many think

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 3>of it. In my guest bathroom, this horse photo photo

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 3>this piece of art horse But the frame is metal

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's very heavy, and the type of nail that

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I chose isn't strong enough to hold it. So then

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 3>you'll also notice that there was like sticky what's that

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 3>command strip command strips stuck on the wall because I

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>then I just decided to stick the metal frame on

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 3>the wall and it all It lasted for a few

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 3>months and then one day I walked in and it

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 3>had fallen on the toilet. Oh it fell Yeah, so

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 3>that's why it's still there looking. So I just need

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to figure out like a drill situation.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you should. We should have somebody come do that, right. Okay.

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 2>You also have perfect staircase for the gallery wall, so

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm co signing that for you.

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I agree. I think it'll really change the vibe of

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>the room because you know, in the last couple of

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 3>weeks I've been trying to move everything around and figure

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 3>stuff out, which you haven't understood. But I'm not trying

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 3>to buy more, or if I do buy more, it's

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 3>like it's like we're in the club. We got a clicker. Yeah,

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 3>if something's coming in, something's going out.

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I saw a very interesting study recently I want

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to share with you that surprised me. It was a

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 2>study from Harvard and this was from I can't take

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>credit for this, obviously, but this was posted by my

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Max Life speaker on Instagram and it was just a

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>title of what makes children Successful? So when you think

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 2>about like what makes did you do? You know what

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to tell you now, Okay, perfect, When you

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>think about, like what makes kids successful later in life?

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>What would you think are like the markers.

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 3>What level of like responsibility were they given or like

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 3>what was expected of them in their home? You're like

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 3>very close, say the question again one more time.

0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 2>What do you think helps to make children successful later

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in life? Yeah?

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 3>What was expected in their home? Because I feel like

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 3>when everything's given to a kid, yeah, or when everything's

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>done for them. That's what I've heard the most as

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>a parent, is like you have kids have to learn

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 3>to do things for themselves if you swoop in and

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 3>do it every time. And that's something that I had

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 3>to yeah, because like when okay, speaking of unloading the

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 3>dishwasher or loading it, I have a particular way I

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 3>want it loaded. I have particularly I want it unloaded

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 3>where everything goes, And so I would just be like,

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 3>it's faster, it's faster. Just put your dish in the sink,

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 3>like I'll handle it because it's faster for me at least,

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 3>and I would micromanage, and I really need to be like, okay, yeah,

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 3>will you wash your dish and put in the dishwasher

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 3>and then not be so particular.

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you do your kid's laundry?

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 3>They have learned to do it. I will at times,

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 3>but no, they both pretty much do their own now.

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>As a kid, I did my own laundry, but not

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>because I think my mom might have done everybody else's laundry.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't let her wash any color with a

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 2>color that didn't match it. So I've had one yellow shirt.

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I would have like a meltdown if she washed it

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 2>with like a blue shirt. So that means my mom

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 2>let me wash a yellow shirt by itself, which I

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 2>guess it was better than my meltdown. I don't know. Okay,

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>so you're very close. So Harvard did a seventy five

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.919
<v Speaker 2>year long study on what makes children successful and found

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't grades, test scores, or extracurriculars. It was something

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 2>that parents generally, which this also shocked me, stop doing,

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 2>stop making their kids do by age ten. It was chores.

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Parents are in parents age ten.

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, which that is what shocked me, is that I'm

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I wait, at ten you start doing the chores. I

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's when I would start giving them the try.

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 2>So I might have read that wrong when I was

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 2>reading it, but yeah, it said to grow up happy

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and successful, a child needs both love and work ethic,

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 2>which I think is what you were kind of speaking to.

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.720
<v Speaker 2>He said, work ethic comes from doing chores. Clear the plate,

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 2>take out the trash, feed the dog, fold the laundry.

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Another study traced kids at four points in their life,

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and the strongest predictor of success by twenty five was

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>whether the child did chores at age three or four,

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 2>which is interesting. At first, I was like, three or four,

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 2>they can't do anything, But then I was reading, I

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, they can. They can help feed the pets,

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.959
<v Speaker 2>they can carry their plate to the sink, they can

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 2>put clothes in a hamper, like there are little things

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that they could do, and so it said. This was

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 2>also you might relate to this because you said it

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>was kind of hard for you to like let your

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 2>kids do it. Eighty two percent of parents chores as kids. However,

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 2>only twenty eight percent of those people's kids do chores.

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Wow, what causes that?

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know?

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Drastic drop, I wonder, because it's like, if chores were

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 3>expected of you, why would you not expect that of

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:20.280
<v Speaker 3>your kids? And we all parent differently, we should parent differently,

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.479
<v Speaker 3>like hopefully at each generation you get a little bit better.

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 3>But in knowing what chores bring about. I wonder if

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 3>because there's more, is there more I don't know if

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 3>there's more or less, like be making this up, but

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, is there more help outside the house, like

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 3>or if both parents are working, then is there someone

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 3>that's helping clean so the kids don't have to.

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Or it's much more common these days for both parents

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to work. Therefore, it is much more common to have

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody clean the house or do the things that a

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>typical mom that stays home or dad that stays home

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 2>would do. So that actually makes a lot of sense.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I know, but that means other things that a lot

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 3>of people may not. Or if the moms or the

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>dads are staying home, are they just deciding to do it?

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean the kids who are definitely a lot more

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 3>busy with five different activities.

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And when I think a lot of people think that

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.439
<v Speaker 2>if I put my kid in all these activities, that's

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>what's going to help them be successful is have them

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>volunteer here and play this sport and learn this instrument.

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's less about having stuff for them to

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>do and more about them feeling needed. And sometimes when

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you have a chore or a task like that, you're

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 2>part of the system and you're contributing. Yes. So they

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 2>gave three rules that actually work when it comes to

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 2>doing chores. They recommend One, start kids early three to four.

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 2>They can put away toys, carry a plate, feed the dog,

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>so don't wait until they can mow the grass to

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 2>ask them to do something. Two show them how do

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it together first, and then let them takeover. So if

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 2>it's feeding the dog, it's like, let's fill this water

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 2>bowl up together, or let's scoop the food together, and

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>then eventually you can say, hey, can you give the

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>dog some food? And number three don't This was interesting

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to me. Don't pay for chores. Pain turns it into

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a transaction. Keep allowance is separate, So then I'm like, well,

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess you don't allowance.

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:34.359
<v Speaker 3>It's tricky iding. That's hard, I mean, or is it?

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 3>We went back and forth with it. I think we

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:38.280
<v Speaker 3>had seasons when Ben and I were married and together

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 3>where we did know charts with the kids. If they

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:44.439
<v Speaker 3>wanted certain things, they had to get a certain amount

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 3>of stars. Like when we first got them, we had

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:49.280
<v Speaker 3>this big whiteboard and we'd have things that they could

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>This is all pre COVID. Yeah, so it feels I

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 3>feel like my life with the kids there was like

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 3>pre COVID and Ben and I were still together, and

0:54:56.080 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 3>then after like twenty twenty twenty twenty, some separations started.

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty one, we were fully separated. And so then

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 3>they've got however they do it at Ben's hous and

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 3>however they do it at mine, And I think we

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.839
<v Speaker 3>just like Stevenson wanted some extra spending money for something

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 3>the other day, and so I gave him a list

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 3>of things to do and he earned that money. But

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 3>he still will feed the dog, walk the dog, and

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 3>do his laundry, and I don't pay him for that.

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't have growing up. We didn't have specific chores,

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.279
<v Speaker 2>but there were things we were expected to do, like.

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 3>For your allowance, probably well no, our allowance was we

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 3>would get This is crazy because it probably doesn't feel

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of money now, but it was a

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 3>lot to us back then.

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 2>We got twenty dollars when we got to middle school,

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>we got twenty dollars a week.

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 2>We could either use that money to buy lunch every

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>day at school, or we could pack our lunch and

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 2>keep that twenty dollars. So what do you think we

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.880
<v Speaker 2>did packed.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Your lunch and kept the money.

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that had nothing to do with like our chores.

0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 2>They were just things we were expected to do, Like

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 2>we were expected to help clean the dishes after dinner.

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>We did our own laundry. From what I remember that,

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>at least in high school, we had day we had

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 2>like cleaning days where like we would clean the whole

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 2>house as a family and we would each get like

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a space to start and we would do that together.

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.839
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't. We had a dog, but I don't.

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't help with the dog.

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't your thing.

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, so my parents got the dog. It really, I

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 2>feel like was a gift. It was gift to all

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 2>of us kids, but it was really I feel like

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 2>for my little brother. I think we were supposed to

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>take care of the dog. But the dog loved my

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 2>dad more than anybody else. And I think my dad

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 2>just that's what the.

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Kids say about both our pets, our dog and our cat.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 3>They're like, but the cat, and that they love you

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>because we got these pets. Got the dog for the kids.

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 3>And then Stashira it was her cat. It's her birthday present.

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 3>One year and she's like, but they love you.

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 2>You probably spend the most time with them, do you think.

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, my our dog could care less about

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 2>me love my dad because.

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, why am I I'm like constantly caring for

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>these animals and they're yells and then they're like we

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 3>they want more animals and I'm like no.

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 2>No, But I do think that's interesting, like keep the

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 2>keep the chores separate from from money, so it feels

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 2>like they're a part of Yeah, they're needed.

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we're a really diverse episode. We got

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 3>comfort a night ap dating ah sentences that have changed

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 3>that girl's life, whoever she is the girl?

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you follow her on Instagram or some suggested posts?

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh I love my suggested must come up that like

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 3>hit hosts with me.

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, because a lot of times they're suggested

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<v Speaker 2>that and I'm like, get this off my page. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't follow this person, which that should be. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>block that stuff? I'm sure I could, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>too much work. But this I was like, well, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>I think by swiping right through it, you're sending a

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<v Speaker 3>message to the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have what makes children successful. Three dcluttering tips.

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<v Speaker 2>We have it all here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got you covered. What stage of life are you?

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<v Speaker 3>And we're good? But don't forget to try out your

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<v Speaker 3>nightcap tonight, Celebrate, appreciate, prioritize.

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<v Speaker 2>Not on a first date, yeah unless unless you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to, But wherever you are, we hope you

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<v Speaker 3>have the day you need to have. Bye Bye,