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Speaker 1: He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast man.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary queen's rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't segreed that your boy in O r E.

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Ups dj E

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Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 2: Of the biggest players you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 3: source for drunk drinks Chans.

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Speaker 1: Mo postcavery Days New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 2: Listen, It's time for drink Champions. Drink up, motherfuck mother.

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Speaker 1: Would a good be hoping sooner it should be this

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Speaker 1: your boy in.

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Speaker 4: O R E?

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Speaker 2: What up is dj E f N?

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Speaker 1: And this drink Champs Yappy? I will make something and

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Speaker 1: right now. When we started this show, we want we

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Speaker 1: said we want to interview legends, icons, people who's been

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Speaker 1: in this game, who has changed this game. This man

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Speaker 1: has not only changed the game, He's changed my life personally.

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Speaker 1: He's been one of the greatest people I ever met

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Speaker 1: in life period. He's one of the best CEO's best.

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Speaker 1: I don't even.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 1: He is hip hop. He gave me some of the

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Speaker 1: best stories of my life in my career involves this

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Speaker 1: man right here. And all of my friends know these

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Speaker 1: stories too, by the way, because it's not like I

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Speaker 1: said once, I say them fifteen million times and he's

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Speaker 1: alumni too young. But in case you don't know who

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, were talking about the one, the only

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Speaker 1: motherfucker impeccable Leo Leo.

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Speaker 5: I don't thank you.

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Speaker 1: Your story is so beautiful, especially when with like like

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Speaker 1: our producer just said, you know, starting from a road

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Speaker 1: manager run DMC, how did how did? How did that

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Speaker 4: Came together because I had a passport and they needed

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Speaker 4: to get to London and none of Russell invited me

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Speaker 4: to work at Rush and the record label. No, no,

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Speaker 4: this is before def Jam. Rush management was started with

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Speaker 4: Curtis Blow and the office was three people Bill Adler,

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Speaker 4: depressed and their heads were down, and I thought, like,

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Speaker 4: where's the marching band? I came all the way of

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Speaker 4: they were all depressed, and I said, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: And they told me, we don't know who you are.

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Speaker 4: Russell never told us that you were coming. But run

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Speaker 4: DMC is that the JFK and they're road manager Jeff Flood.

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Speaker 4: We can't find them and no one has a passport,

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Speaker 4: so we're fucked.

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Speaker 5: I said, well, I got a.

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Speaker 4: Passport, and that's how I became run DMC's road manager.

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Speaker 4: It's just simple as being in the right place at

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Speaker 4: half years. We never missed a gig. We were five

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Speaker 4: people running Ray God bless his soul, Jay D, Joey

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Speaker 5: There was no excess.

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Speaker 4: We grabbed the needle, our bags and before the curtains

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Speaker 1: God damn it.

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Speaker 2: When you show up to the airport, what do they say?

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Speaker 2: They don't know you either.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 4: No, they knew me because they they were They had

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Speaker 4: to because Joey was the one who convinced Russell like

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I have a hit record that's called

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Speaker 1: Nothing Right. And I don't know if you guys know

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Speaker 1: I told he don't this is famous?

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Speaker 2: You said? Drinks many Usually usually.

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Speaker 1: A CEO would say, I'm gonna come to the studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet you. Don't have your boys there? Leo

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Speaker 1: very I don't know if you remember this. Very So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. So Leo comes, has a video. I

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Speaker 1: is I have a video with j Rul called I'm

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Speaker 1: going to Live my Life. A lot of y'all probably

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Speaker 1: So we're in right track recording studio. Leo tells me,

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Speaker 1: He plays me the video of me and Joe. Rule

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Speaker 2: Need to hear Mammy.

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Speaker 1: So le all looks at the thing and he goes,

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Speaker 1: And then this is this is how it is, how

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Speaker 1: if you cut me, if I cut you, he said,

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Speaker 1: if you cut me right now, ask me what I bleed?

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Speaker 1: I said blood. He goes, no, if you cut me,

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Speaker 1: Then he said to me, so Nory, I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: And I said, super dog? He said exactly for I

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Speaker 5: There were a lot of dark days for me.

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Speaker 4: You know, there was a moment in time that I

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Speaker 4: And I remember specifically that time was when bad Boy

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Speaker 1: There's room for.

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Speaker 4: Aspirational technicolor shit, but there's also room for our get

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Speaker 1: Okay, so almost don't want to get a DMX first,

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Speaker 1: first of us, salute to you, Salute to you. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: It fucking ain't right, it's shaved.

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Speaker 2: There's a rumor.

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Speaker 5: It's not a rumor.

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Speaker 4: There's actually I was getting swung out of Sony, out

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Speaker 3: To go because that was just some people who don't understand.

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Speaker 3: I was a distributor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were, there are partners.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have to understand that Death Jam, the

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Speaker 5: Was sixteen points. That included the artists at the lay whoa.

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Speaker 3: Thing For those who don't understand sixteen points to say off.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sixteen points off of let's just say a

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Speaker 4: It's too little. It's too little. So we weren't happy

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Speaker 4: How does this work? So we're making it up on

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Speaker 1: Of, out of and how did you get warm with g? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And actually we shipped Regulate from Sony. They didn't. Actually

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Speaker 4: it was actual numbers that represented the letter of deaf Jam,

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Speaker 4: because I didn't want anybody to know that this was

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Speaker 1: E was five oh alpha the alphabet. And so.

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Speaker 4: How I find found Warren G was he was part

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm looking for to expand def jam. Deaf

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Speaker 4: Jam didn't just represent New York City. It represented rap music,

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Speaker 4: and so I was opening offices in Germany and Tokyo.

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Speaker 4: Fuck it, I'm going to open up an office in

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: It gives you that, Yeah, yeah, Reggie.

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Speaker 4: Diving guy diving and I hear in his voice what

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Speaker 4: And so many good things have happened to me, and

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Speaker 4: And then it's just a beautiful, beautiful thing, and thank

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Speaker 1: We got Now. Now we've we've been doing this for

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Speaker 1: we've been we've been interviewing artists and we've been interviewing

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you the crew to THEAY name Yeah, obviously, Leo, Cohmes, Russell, obviously, Russell, Leon,

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Speaker 1: Do you do you know how special that labor is?

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Speaker 1: Like I always watched Entourage and I watch Empire, and

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Speaker 1: tell you how important this label was. I used to

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Speaker 4: So the answer is only now only because one of

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Speaker 4: I did not document, I didn't stop and say than

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Speaker 5: How does tomorrow work?

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not making that mistake again. I'm so

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Speaker 1: You know what they say. They say winners never enjoyed

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Speaker 1: And is that how you feel you always play life well?

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Speaker 5: Number one?

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Speaker 4: And so I felt since I couldn't wrap, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: do you know, design, I couldn't you know, take a

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Speaker 4: My contribution had to be, as you know, moving this

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 4: That's still no excuse. If I had to do it

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Speaker 1: But okay, all right, let's now, I know we got off.

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Speaker 1: We've missed him earlier, and you said that that's how

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Speaker 5: IRV brought me up to Yonkers.

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Speaker 4: And they were supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Know, because they're trying to.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to, Like I was going like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: So then they X walked in and it was like

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Speaker 4: Ran right away, like you could feel the oxygen change

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Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, it was a moment. It was a moment.

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Speaker 5: And let me just put it to you this way.

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Speaker 4: It was that obvious, Like if my mom was at

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Speaker 5: You know, it was really, really, really obvious.

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Speaker 4: And that's a real tragedy that we could all learn

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Speaker 4: You know, he had a really difficult childhood, and so

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Speaker 1: Quiet. But nobody fucked with Earl Simmons.

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Speaker 4: They all wanted X, and he didn't know how to

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Speaker 4: Don't know if the cats or Lake George or something.

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Speaker 4: I care deeply about Earl Simmons.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 4: Exis XUS is a guy driving one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: That's what exes.

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Speaker 4: And so what do you expect if access supposts, if

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Speaker 5: What do you expect?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that doesn't That doesn't well, driving one

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Speaker 4: that just doesn't end.

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Speaker 4: Difference now now it wasn't a problem. It was so

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Speaker 4: fucking I never heard that.

444
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: I never I never heard I felt that.

445
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: So so whole norries referencing is you know that wire

446
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: that's cut and it's that water that that's dangerous, and

447
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: that's what that Those two bands were disorganized danger There

448
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: was no like everything organized.

449
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: It was like fucking shit, could you go to an

450
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: ONYX show?

451
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, fucking to this day, you know yeah, it's

452
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: a problems bit. Yeah. I told them in Russia before you.

453
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: It was pretty curious you went to Russia before that, yeah,

454
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah.

455
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Thought that was the first time you went. There was

456
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: another place, it was former so you just the yeah.

457
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

458
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 2: Because that Russia thing was different.

459
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: Talk to me, shout out to two moves here by

460
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: the way, and he threw some tidbits at me, telling

461
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: me I didn't know that you managed Dayla yes, and

462
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: I hit pause immediately and he hit me back with

463
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of voice messages, which I appreciate him for doing,

464
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: and he was just breaking down how you and Russell

465
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: were involved in them and tribe and I didn't I

466
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: didn't realize. I didn't know that much about it, and

467
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: about the tour they were on, that tour that you

468
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: mentioned n w A one yes and you stopped Macio

469
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Speaker 3: from joining the military, you know.

470
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: So we just saw. We just saw each other recently

471
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: in London. They did something for me and Google and

472
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: YouTube at a conference and I hadn't seen them in

473
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: fifteen years, and it was really like an extraordinary feeling.

474
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: There's a lot of stories that people tell me about,

475
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: like They were telling me in the crowd about how

476
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: I got them out of high school and college but

477
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 4: insisted on them finishing their degree. So beautiful things about

478
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: me that I don't remember. I have an excuse, but

479
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: they're very very important, very important, like that live wire

480
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: and that little water on the ground.

481
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: They weren't that.

482
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: They were represented optimism and joy, uh and a different

483
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: you know for.

484
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: Me, like I have all the illness rappers.

485
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: That was a juke move when I represented tribe and Deyla.

486
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: I just juked everybody like they thought I was just

487
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: one way like ry me.

488
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: And like did you know that he represented?

489
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's on the rush, that was on the rush. Okay, okay,

490
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: like a sonic.

491
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: Pause and then pause telling me some stuff and then

492
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: just thinking about all the groups and artists that Rush

493
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: and Deaf Jam collectively that you were involved in and

494
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: got to see developed.

495
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: That's extraordinary in terms.

496
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Of lucky motherfucker. Lucky motherfucker.

497
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: I've touched more rappers than everybody else combined. Okay, period. Okay,

498
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: Big Daddy Kane shout out to him. I just kim

499
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: joined me. I haven't seen him. Must have been two

500
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: decades he joined me two days ago at the Secretary

501
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: of State's House where we did rekindling a new initiative

502
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: around music diplomacy.

503
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: So Dave Grohl Bono and I brought Rock Kim and rock.

504
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: And did you know the Secretary of State of the

505
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: United States is a musician guitarist and he was played

506
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: Muddy Waters on stage. It was the most ridiculous thing.

507
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: And so I saw that we had opera singers, we

508
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: had Dave Grohl Bono, we didn't have any rappers. So

509
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: we got a few late editions that was great, and

510
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: one of them was Rock Kim And when he got

511
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: on stage, shut that place so down, and it's all

512
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, guitarists and symphony people and everything like that.

513
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: It was it brought shivers to me because I mean,

514
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: if you think about those lyrics and that man and

515
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: just to see him and the life that he's created

516
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: for himself. Man, big shout out to rock Camra My goodness.

517
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's make noise. Let's make noise for.

518
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Music diplomacy, American music. Let's not only send guns around

519
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: the world, let's send our culture. You know, by being

520
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: in Kansastan, you know, they Kazastan knows more about America

521
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: through the movies and the music than they do. Buy

522
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: the guns. They only can't even name the gun, but

523
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 4: they can name you. They book you or Disney.

524
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: We're losing that influence.

525
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: We've lost.

526
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: I've been traveling and I've been and they've been telling us.

527
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: They're like, we've like and specific to hip hop. They said,

528
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: hip hop and you could take everybody could take it

529
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: how they want. They said, hip hop is a business

530
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: for you guys. It's you guys lost touch with what

531
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: it really is. And so now they're looking to their

532
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: to their regional peers. Like I was in Vietnam, they're

533
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: looking to China and Korea, I was in Colombia, and

534
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: they're looking to the countries.

535
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Around them, of course.

536
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: And it's sad to see because I like to think

537
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: of it, and I think it's true that hip hop

538
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: is probably one of the biggest cultural exports that we

539
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: we put out there that's impacted.

540
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: So important, so important that we, you know, culturally make

541
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: people understand what an incredible country we have, feel proud of,

542
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: what are, what we've accomplished and everything, and and make

543
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: the world a better place through music. Okay, I can

544
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: tell you something. This world is in a really really

545
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: difficult place. This thing could go real wrong, real fast.

546
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: But music is a connector. It reminds us that we

547
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: have more in common than what separates us, and so

548
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: I want to do everything in my power to promote that.

549
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm glad that the American government Anthony Blincoln big shout

550
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: out to Anthony blinkn Okay, our Secretary of State promoting

551
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: and funding bipartisan support on funding American soft.

552
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 5: Power around the world.

553
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: So you know, one of the most important moments of

554
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: my life was when we were opening up YouTube music

555
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: in India and I was in Mumbai and the biggest

556
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: slum in Mumbai in Asia is in Mumbai called Davari

557
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: Is where slum Dog Millionaire is. In the middle of

558
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: this slum is an after school program that's dedicated to

559
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: hip hop rap music. These kids are breakdown, they're wearing

560
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 4: hip they're wearing cagles.

561
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: It's like a time warp. It's late eighties.

562
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the little kids with kangos, they're breaking the.

563
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: Battles in these the biggest slum in the world, and

564
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: it's rap music that's keeping them learning living off the streets.

565
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: It's just such a powerful and important moment for me.

566
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: It was amazing, amazing.

567
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I get this out. Well, our show is about giving

568
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: people the flowers, So we want to give you a flowers.

569
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Face to face man and man, tell you how great

570
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: you are. You know what I mean? Tell you, Tell

571
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: you how much you mean to the coach.

572
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. This is really mean for to me. Grateful.

573
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 5: I'm grateful to this. I'm grateful to you, know.

574
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: You the man. Leo, you man, you man. Let's make some.

575
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: Thank you so kind.

576
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: You want to do kick Thomas snob you got something, okay? Yeah,

577
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: we have sunny going on this place, okay.

578
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Or he could just slip the champagne.

579
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Okay, he can set a champagne. You want to explain

580
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: on the rules. We're gonna give you two choices. You

581
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: pick one.

582
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: Nobody drinks, but if you say both or neither, which

583
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: would be the political correct answer, we're all drinking.

584
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Right, but you don't have to take shots. You would

585
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: take SIPs of the champagne. Or if you want to

586
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: designate a hit up my friend right there, baby baby shot.

587
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: All right, So okay, you're gonna ask me.

588
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you two choices, right, So I answered

589
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: the question drinking.

590
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no.

591
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: If you don't answer, then like if you say both,

592
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 3: like you don't want to, you don't want to pick,

593
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: say both or neither of them.

594
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: We're all drinking.

595
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: We're all gonna have it.

596
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 5: If I say one of them, nobody.

597
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: Drinks, Nobody drink nobody. I think I'm gonna do a

598
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: for this. Well, you gonna tell her she don't know,

599
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: she don't know about how to do the bikie shots.

600
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: All right, cool, you're ready, you can go to the

601
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: first one. All right?

602
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: Rick Rubin or Kanye West.

603
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, fucking Rick Rubin, jay Z or Dame Dash

604
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 6: jay Z.

605
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: All day, meth alad.

606
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: We're drinking, Okay.

607
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: I like how you understand the GA he understands okay

608
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: Wu tang clan or public enemy public adem me okay,

609
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: I like that.

610
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: D MX or tupaca, d m X right kiss or fab.

611
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: Hm kiss?

612
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

613
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: Analog or digital?

614
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: That's analog, that's the good. That's I always go analog.

615
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Eighties or nineties hip hop? Are you skipped? Oh my bad? No,

616
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to that eighties and nineties hip hop.

617
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck. Okay, right, now okay, drink no.

618
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: No, no, Na's album Allmatic or Biggie Album Ready to

619
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Die Biggie Album.

620
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Run DMC or Beastie Boys, Run DMC. Okay,

621
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: Primo or Pete Rock, Primo, who Rihanna or Mariah.

622
00:39:53,600 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: We're drinking no no, yeah.

623
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: That we're gonna drink with pre Move and Pete Rock. Okay,

624
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: go ahead, Doctor dre r Puff I drinking.

625
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Let me get it ready, got it? That should have

626
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: been you again, Scarfhaser, ice Cube, Scarface.

627
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 5: Fixed, come on.

628
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: Crazy Yeah Yeah, Crush.

629
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: Or Beat b Street Crush Groups podcast or See I

630
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 4: Wear My Collars Trying Yes Yeah.

631
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Podcast or radio podcasts.

632
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: God, I love this game.

633
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: It's Doc. It's Doc and hell is high or Flesh

634
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: of My Flesh. We got to put you up against yourself,

635
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, fuck it.

636
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 5: We're drinking.

637
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm going Japanese de Leon.

638
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: You can keep you can have to say that anyone.

639
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys have to work after.

640
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: This, something like that. I got to go be a

641
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: father after this.

642
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a good one. Russell Simmons or Kevin Lyales.

643
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: We're drinking, okay, all right, okay, l L cool j

644
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: or Snoop dogg L cool j As hard as hell

645
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: battle anybody. I don't care you tell, I won't tell. Hey,

646
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, hold on? Oh okay, here mob deep.

647
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 5: E P M D all day, all day, it's my thing.

648
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: Go ahead, there, you got the chip, Midnight Marauders or

649
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: low end theory.

650
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: We're drinking gez or Rick Ross, Rick Ross kick a

651
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Prie or Funk Master Flex.

652
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 5: Funk Flex.

653
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Rad Alurn or grand Master Flash rather Alarn Rough Riders

654
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: or Rockefeller drinking Slicker Rick or rock him drinking. Oh damn,

655
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: come on, that's up reasonable out or in my lifetime

656
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Viole two.

657
00:42:51,440 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: In my lifetime. Loyalty or respect. Loyalty or respect that's disrespectful.

658
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: Respect. It could be both.

659
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: So the problem is a lot of people have fake loyalty.

660
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: But if you have respect, then you have real loyalty.

661
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: You want you understand what I'm saying. My whole team

662
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: had to fight. They can't. They can't.

663
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: I can't be loyal to you if you're not going to.

664
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: You know, make that happen, right, I could just because

665
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: you made the decision, not I didn't make the decision. Okay,

666
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: So but you could only get respect if you're ready

667
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: to do the work. So if you do the work,

668
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: then I'm loyal to you.

669
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying.

670
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of the people that earn respect through fear,

671
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: and that's not that's not going to.

672
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: Get that's not respect. Power is not taken, it's given.

673
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: People give you power, you don't take power.

674
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: That, my friend.

675
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: That was That was a pretty quick one of the

676
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: quick You went through those answers pretty quickly.

677
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 5: So one point I supposed to go slow.

678
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: No, some people they just say both. They want to

679
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: give it over and give relationships. And the reason why

680
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: we do that is not to single people out. We

681
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: want to mention these names, to have them in the conversation.

682
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, thank you.

683
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: This. There's been a room at one point too, right

684
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: that Sugar Knight try to like bully job rule off

685
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: of the recordation.

686
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: No, No, I have no, I have no idea about that.

687
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: But I do know.

688
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: There was a moment in La I was at the

689
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: Palace on Vine Street it must be a different place,

690
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 4: and Chris Lighty comes up to me and pulls out

691
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: a gun and says, come this way.

692
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean?

693
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: He says, look over there and was shuging his crew

694
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: coming after me.

695
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: Really and this it was after I signed Warren g

696
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: and he was very upset.

697
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, okay, and Chris has me go through

698
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: the kitchen.

699
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 5: Like wow, that was did that really happen?

700
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 4: And you know, finally got to the four seasons they

701
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: were waiting for me. Took me through the kitchen to

702
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 4: my room. Wow, yeah it was. It was a thing.

703
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: And that's my Sugar Night story.

704
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: Face with Sugar.

705
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had many.

706
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: Face to face I saw him in jail and the

707
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 4: whole nine visit him all that.

708
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's crazy. I wasn't ready for that.

709
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: But when you saw him in jails after that incident,

710
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. I mean, so you guys reconciled in a sense, there's.

711
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: No reconcile, okay, Just so you're clear, there was no

712
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 4: apologies for what I did. Like I used to say

713
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: to my artists, the same answer I'm giving you right

714
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: now is the same answer when you fling me out

715
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: the window and I'm about to hit the concrete and

716
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: giving you the same fucking answer. The only difference is

717
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: you're going to jail, so you're threatening me. And scaring me.

718
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: And I'm giving you the same answer. Okay, So once

719
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: you take the fear out, once they realize there's no change,

720
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: what he must be crazy?

721
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: How you know he's not going to change.

722
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: Once they realized there's no change, then it's a different relationship.

723
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?

724
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

725
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 2: I feel like that creates the respect.

726
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 5: Creates respect.

727
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: But I think it's respect because I have a point

728
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: of view. There was nothing wrong with me signing more

729
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: and see he had all the opportunity to he neglected

730
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 4: it the whole nine I didn't do anything disrespect for

731
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: you know wrong. I just signed an artist, gave him

732
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: an opportunity and that's it.

733
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: Kept it moving. Now, Now, how hard was it for you? Right?

734
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Def Jam was everything? I remember like like like you know,

735
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was everything, But you get this awful

736
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: from Atlantic right and Atlantic is I don't know how

737
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: this Atlantic deal was structured, but I know that at

738
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: first you it was just who win and then those

739
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: who could get are? But how hard was that not

740
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: to hold that in?

741
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: Then the Atlantic stuff stuff happened six years later. It

742
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: was really when I sold Deaf Jam. I was thirty

743
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: eight years old and part of the deal was you

744
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 4: either work for them or you go for five years

745
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: on what they call garden leave, where you cannot go

746
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 4: back in the industry that you love. I'm thirty eight

747
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: years old. I didn't work for the paper. I worked

748
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: for the Journey. I was on the Journey And that

749
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: would have been a death sentence for me to.

750
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 5: Get this money.

751
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: From death Jam for selling it, selling but not be

752
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: able to work. But not being able to work unless

753
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: I worked for them. Oh, and that's why I created

754
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 4: the Island Deaf.

755
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Jam Music Okay. Now what happened.

756
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: Why I left the Island def Jam Music Group for

757
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 4: the Warner Music Group is Edgar Broffman that owned Universal.

758
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: They bought PolyGram.

759
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Okay, they bought a lot of things.

760
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: Eleven point nine billion dollars and Island def Jam was

761
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: part of that group.

762
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 5: Okay.

763
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: And he went off to buy Warner Music Group from

764
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: aol time Warner Wow. And because he saw my work

765
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: at Island def Jam, he asked me to come along

766
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: and own a piece of this new company. And it

767
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: was one an opportunity for me. And we talked about

768
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: the Warner Warner Music Group. I I was hired as

769
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: the chief creative officer but the real reason is going

770
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: to be the first time I've ever said it is

771
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: universal did something really really bad to me. Now, things

772
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: were going really great for me. Joh Rule was exploding,

773
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: jay Z was exploding, DMX was exploding. You know, it

774
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: was all incredible, and I was broke the killers.

775
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I didn't.

776
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: I transformed myself from the.

777
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: Rap guy to all of a sudden, to other types

778
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: of music, the entrepreneurialism of rap music I introduced to

779
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: the rest of the Suddenly. We went from the last

780
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 4: place to the number one record company in the country,

781
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: and I was good money. But I got harpooned because

782
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: two of job Rule's original members went to jail.

783
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you saw on cash Money click right.

784
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 4: And then they came back and they were on TVT Records,

785
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: and so you.

786
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 5: Know when Steve Gott killed.

787
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: This is a really really tough story for me.

788
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 4: So these two guys come back from jail and say

789
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: the job Rule, Yo, let's do a cash money And

790
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 4: in the vault of TVT was a cash money.

791
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 5: Album.

792
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so erv and job really didn't want to

793
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 4: do that. Their career is going like crazy, bom boom

794
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 4: boom boom. So they made me tell Steve Gottlieb that

795
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: I'm not actually going to do this. Now, all of

796
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: a sudden, I get a lawsuit person in a lawsuit

797
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: that I led him on to believe that job rule

798
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 4: can do cash money and accused me of fraud.

799
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 5: So I said, get the fuck out of here. I

800
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: didn't do anything wrong.

801
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: I have jow rules multi Platinum, and you're trying to

802
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: rekindle cash money.

803
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense.

804
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 4: No, the courts didn't believe believe me, and I lost

805
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five million dollar judgment. Okay, one

806
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five million dollar judgment, now think about it.

807
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: So I was indemnified by Universal. I'm an employee at

808
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: this point of Universal, Like, can you imagine if I

809
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: gave job roll go ahead to another independent company multi

810
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: Platinum job rull go ahead and do this cash money

811
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 4: side project.

812
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I'll be fired.

813
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: So I thought I did the right thing for the company,

814
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: for the artists, everything. So I went. Now I'm embarrassed.

815
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 4: Imagine they called me a fraudster. I'm in the paper.

816
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: The whole nine lost one hundred and thirty five million dollars.

817
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: Now in order to get a retrial, you have to

818
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 4: post a bond for sixty million dollars. So I went

819
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: to Universal and said, you know, you're on the hook

820
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: for one hundred and thirty five million. Let's post a

821
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: bond and get a retrial. Because this went off the

822
00:53:53,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: rails and they boked the people I gave my company.

823
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 4: To the blood, sweat and tears that I gave that company,

824
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: they balked on the sixty million bond that would allow

825
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: them to retry the case that they were on the

826
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: hook for one hundred and thirty five million dollars. At

827
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: that moment, I realized, these people got me out here

828
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 4: like crazy. Now put up the sixty MILLI went to retrial,

829
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: through the case out. Finally they said this is absolutely crazy.

830
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: Steve Godlieb already spent tens and tens of millions of

831
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 4: those dollars and court got thrown out, completely reversed. I

832
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 4: was clear Universal saved one hundred and thirty five million dollars,

833
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: but I could never forgive them, and that's why I

834
00:54:54,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: left my company. In fact, I actually turned down Edgar

835
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: and on January sixth, right after I got back from Barbados,

836
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: I walked in the morning because I was under a

837
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: lot of stress. They were telling me this new Warner

838
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: Music Group is going to be so valuable, hundreds of

839
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 4: billions of dollars millions, and you're going to do great

840
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: in the whole nine and what they universal did to

841
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: me and I was struggling, but I didn't want to

842
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: leave the company, so I turned them Warner down. I

843
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: went that morning to the office, never had a key,

844
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: and it was the first time that I couldn't get

845
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: in the office. I said, this is a sign that

846
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: I fucked up. I walked back home. I told my wife,

847
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: well what happened. She says, you're an idiot. You just

848
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 4: went too early. Go back to the office. There's this sign.

849
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 5: Bullshit.

850
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 4: It just as I just as I was leaving, Edgar

851
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: Brotherland called again and said, are you sure you don't

852
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: want to roll with us? And that at that moment

853
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 4: I said I'm coming and never returned back to that

854
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: jam And that's how that's that's crazy me. Yeah, that

855
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 4: was the first time that that story ever been heard.

856
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so you get to Warner about to say Atlantic

857
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: where you get to Warna. This is a room all

858
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: not not you, but every CEO kind of gets to

859
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: a new company and kind of fires everybody and brings

860
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: in their own crew. Was that your plan?

861
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: I don't believe in that. I don't.

862
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't.

863
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 4: I don't fire everybody and bring in my own crew.

864
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: Everybody has a chance to win that that job. This

865
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: is nothing personal. This is this is not a game.

866
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: This is people's lives. We have a fiduciary responsibility to

867
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 4: the artists and the songwriters. I was going to get

868
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 4: the best click, period, and that didn't mean my click.

869
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I like this, like this, what's your click there?

870
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: So what you're saying because they were the best, they

871
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: were the best, just so you know, award your team.

872
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 5: Won, just just just so you know it.

873
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 4: That's really not accurate, Okay, cool, because many of the

874
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: my click made it, the ones that you know about

875
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: historical people in this industry, many of them didn't make it. Okay.

876
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: It's simple as that. So, like I said, I believe

877
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: that we need to win. You need the best team.

878
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: I believe that. That's simple as that. Goddamn it, damn god, damn.

879
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, before you worked with run DMC,

880
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 3: would you have considered yourself a hip hop head, a

881
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: bee boy?

882
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: Like before you got into the industry.

883
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 5: No, I was a curious person.

884
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: And I was raised by two incredible parents that made

885
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: sure that I did everything in my power to avoid work. Now,

886
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: that's very strange think about Jewish parents. Usually, man, you

887
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 4: go to school, become a doctor or a lawyer, that's

888
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: your gig. My parents said, this is a very new

889
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: concept to have a career. You see, a couple generations ago,

890
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: people didn't have a career. They went to work, right,

891
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: And they said, because we're successful, we could afford you

892
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: the opportunit unity to find your passion because if you

893
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: find your passion, you'll be a very wealthy person.

894
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: And they weren't meaning money.

895
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: Right, They're meaning and by the way, I'm on the

896
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 4: verge of being sixty four years old. I've been in

897
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 4: this game for forty years. I do not know where

898
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 4: the time went. It's weird. So they were right, found

899
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: my passion have enjoyed almost every day. I work really hard,

900
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 4: but I work in a a in a space that

901
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: I feel incredibly passionate about.

902
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: So look was the reason the reason why I asked

903
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: that is did you so you were you passionate about

904
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: hip hop?

905
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: Prior to that?

906
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: Were you passionate about just the entertainment industry.

907
00:59:52,040 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 4: I was not passionate about hip hop until I came

908
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 4: to New York. Okay, I came in New York during

909
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: the Fever period. Encore, it's pretty early. You know the

910
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: Red Parrot, where Fat Catch used to post up, the

911
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 4: Roxy Danse materia.

912
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 5: This was a moment before aids, before crack.

913
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: This was a moment where New York was just on

914
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 4: the verge of bankruptcy, just survived bankruptcy.

915
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: This was a moment where.

916
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 4: The exclusivity of Studio fifty four gave into the inclusivity

917
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: of the Fever. This was a moment in time where

918
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 4: at any given party you could bump into Jean Michel Basquiat,

919
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 4: Madonna and the Warhol, Keith Herring, you know, Flash, Mellie

920
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: mel kg You know. It was a melting pot because

921
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: New York, because of the financial troubles, had affordable housing.

922
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 4: So painters and the arts and people there were drawn there,

923
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: and so it was this melting pot.

924
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck question you asked me.

925
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: I'll ask you how much of a hip hop d

926
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: were you getting it? Were you attracted to? So the

927
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: first time as a hip hop head or as just

928
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: the industry.

929
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm pre sucker mc bro be clear. Okay,

930
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: So there weren't that many hip hop hads fire to me.

931
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: But the first time that I met the beat, my

932
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 4: brother was wood shop teacher at Vermin Day in South

933
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 4: central LA, and he used to bring me. Vermin Day

934
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: had the national champion high school basketball team, and he

935
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: used to take me to the games. And every break,

936
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 4: a guy with a bass and some drums would run

937
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 4: up with some girls. I'm doing those moves and I

938
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: was like eight years old, and I said, oh my god,

939
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: I can't believe what I just heard, and they would

940
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 4: race back and then every break or halftime.

941
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 5: Fast forward to listening to.

942
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: Fifteen ADYKDA and going to see an Uncle Jam's army event.

943
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 4: I recognized that beat. That beat was familiar to me,

944
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: and I liked it. You know what I'm saying.

945
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 5: It was like that that shit that I liked. It

946
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 5: was familiar to me, and I wanted more of it.

947
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: But this is the reason why I was saying all

948
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: of this, because you became the archetype of the hip

949
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: hop executive. Like it or not, you became that person,

950
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: and I feel like you come prior to the industry

951
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: of hip hop.

952
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: That's why I was asking you, leading you into that question.

953
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 3: And now people look at hip hop the industry extracted

954
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: the music and monetized the music.

955
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: But we both know, and we talked.

956
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: About internationally, the culture lives all these elements. How do

957
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: you feel the the rest of like hip hop as

958
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: a multi dimensional culture, how can it thrive further going

959
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: into the future.

960
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

961
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: I'm not a It was funny one day I was

962
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: invited into the global management meeting of PolyGram in Seville, Spain,

963
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 4: and I sat next to the head lawyer of PolyGram

964
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 4: and he said, so, Leor, what's to rap music? What's

965
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 4: the future of rap music? And I turned to him

966
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: and I said, I don't know. It was like really

967
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 4: put off in English dot He said, so what do

968
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: we pay you millions of dollars for?

969
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 5: I said, I don't know.

970
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 4: I hope you don't pay me millions of dollars to

971
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: predict the future.

972
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: I hope you pay me.

973
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: Millions of dollars to create an environment, a safe space,

974
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: a creative space where artists in that garage with a

975
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 4: snot running down their nose that are going to change

976
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: the future. Want to be with us. I never wanted

977
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 4: to predict the future. That's corny to me. That's like

978
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 4: what I want to create, and then safe environment for

979
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 4: that future have to be.

980
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: Well, well, that is predicting the future too, because you're

981
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: creating the future a foundation for a future.

982
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

983
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: I never weather veined thing. I can't tell you. I

984
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 4: can't tell you. I can tell you the thing that

985
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: lives inside of me. Okay, think about this. The center

986
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 4: of the music industry is in New York City in

987
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three. All the record companies were here. They

988
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 4: weren't in La they weren't in Atlanta and Miami. They

989
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 4: were all every decision maker, every single person record label industry,

990
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 4: or the entire record label industry. It was in New

991
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: York City. Now, how far is Midtown from the Bronx

992
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: forty fifty sixty, seventy eighty blocks. So think about that.

993
01:05:53,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: A kid like me, Russell Rick, no money, no clout,

994
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 4: no knowledge, I got high. All those four things alone

995
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: is a reason why couldn't be successful, right, But it

996
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: was because of the arrogance of these labels that didn't

997
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: drive up to the Bronx and realized to get into

998
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: the fever there was more demand than supply, and it

999
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 4: was the arrogance of them not getting in a car

1000
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: for ten It wasn't in Poughkeepsie or Memphis. It was

1001
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: in the Bronx Queens. All they had to do was

1002
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: go there. So because of the arrogance of the industry,

1003
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 4: we were able to incubate. And then five six years

1004
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: later and they realized, oh shit, this is not noise

1005
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: that's going away or fad. Suddenly we had money, we

1006
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: had clout, we had knowledge. Getting high was in the thing.

1007
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 4: No more, okay, And suddenly we were a beasts and

1008
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: they thought that they could get in just buy money.

1009
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: Remember how they came in, Fuck it, we'll just buy

1010
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 4: the ship up and yeah, so I think that to

1011
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 4: me is so if you told me yep, you know

1012
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 4: about the motherfucker's jumping on one leg singing in the

1013
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: north of the d R in Pueta Plata, that shit

1014
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 4: is big. You know what I do, And get on

1015
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: the fucking plane and go just touch the baggie. I

1016
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: want to see it. I don't want to ever say

1017
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 4: that ain't possible, that's just noise. That's a fat I

1018
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 4: need to go understand that. Actually, because I remember what

1019
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: I did to them. The only reason why I'm here

1020
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 4: is because they wouldn't get in a fucking.

1021
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: Car drive some blocks down, some blocks down.

1022
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 5: That's insane, insane.

1023
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: This is a drink Champs p s A good be

1024
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: hoping what it should be? This is your boy, and

1025
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: what up is dj e f N. This is not

1026
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: drink Champs Happy. I feel drinking something drink Champs happy

1027
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: without the hour healthy hour, healthy healthy drink help you out.

1028
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever interviewed a doctor, so, I mean,

1029
01:08:54,439 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: the wait is on you. The closest document it got

1030
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: to is doctor Dre. Yeah, so explain, explain exactly what

1031
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: you do dot.

1032
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 7: So I'm a cardiologist, but I am and I worked

1033
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 7: a long time and issues are on.

1034
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: Health and healthcare and YouTube.

1035
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 7: We've been really trying to build out the platform, arout

1036
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 7: how we get health and messages out to people, or

1037
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 7: we let people understand how to take care of themselves

1038
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 7: into a preventative way, but just in general, just how

1039
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 7: we improve the health of the community.

1040
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: So how did you look up with Leo? So there

1041
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: is my guy? Okay, City of Hope.

1042
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, This has nothing to do with

1043
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 4: City of Hope. This has to do with that we're

1044
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 4: colleagues work at the largest global platform in the world,

1045
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: you know, two point plus billion daily active users, insane

1046
01:09:52,640 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 4: from the you know, corners of Indonesia to the Geria,

1047
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 4: back to Chile, back to South central l a and

1048
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: and back to New York. We're global and doctor Garth

1049
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: leads all the health initiatives that YouTube does. Okay, And

1050
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 4: so YouTube is not just about cat videos and music, no, no,

1051
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 4: we what we're what the leadership is attempting to do

1052
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 4: is use the power of the platform. And doctor Garth, uh,

1053
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, we like Alton Ellis.

1054
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: You know who Alton Ealyis is.

1055
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: Okay, he was before Bob Marley, and Bob Marley really

1056
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 4: like fell in love with Alton Ellis. Let's hear it

1057
01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 4: from Alton l Okay, diferent part of the being. Then

1058
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 4: you are from nor right, Okay?

1059
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: Where are you from? Because I so I'm originally from Jamaica. Okay, yeah,

1060
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: well yeah.

1061
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 7: Right, but actually part of my education here and then

1062
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 7: went off to all the places for medical school and everything.

1063
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 7: So think of myself as Jamaican little Floridan.

1064
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 5: And then all over the place.

1065
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: So what made me want to be a doctor and

1066
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: not like doctor dre.

1067
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 7: You know, if I was going to be honest story,

1068
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 7: there are a lot of things affecting our communities, you know,

1069
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 7: black and brown people.

1070
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: If you think even about you know.

1071
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 7: The health of the community right around here in Overtwn.

1072
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 7: You think about Brooklyn, the Bronx, if you think about

1073
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 7: all of these communities across the world, our communities be

1074
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 7: the disproportionate impact of diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, and we're

1075
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 7: dying at a higher rate. So my goal and my

1076
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 7: life and and and all of our goals, I think

1077
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 7: to figure out how we can help the community get healthier.

1078
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 7: And you know, YouTube is the way we can do that.

1079
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 7: But he wants to know why you chose to become

1080
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 7: a doctor. How did that even happen? Like instead of

1081
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 7: being a DJ.

1082
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,480
Speaker 2: You look like he might be a DJO.

1083
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: Like try to.

1084
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 7: Legend in Jamaica, you know, and Shapa and all of

1085
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 7: those people are still legend.

1086
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1087
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 7: I saw my mom do a lot of things in

1088
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 7: Jamaica helping people. She was a nurse and she would

1089
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 7: really take care of people and not just inspired me

1090
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 7: to be on the same journey that I was just describing.

1091
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 7: So she was a nurse in Jamaica. She's a nurse

1092
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 7: in Jamaica and a nurse.

1093
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, you know what, what's crazy things in

1094
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: New York City. One of the first times we got

1095
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: encountered with health used to be these juice bars, right,

1096
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: and and we used to go there, and there used

1097
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: to be juice bars. But a lot of times we

1098
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 1: used to go there. We used to go there because

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Speaker 1: they were selling weed, right, But by the time we

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Speaker 1: were selling buying the weed, we would buy the juice

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Speaker 1: war Like the roster man would come.

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Speaker 3: He was mostly Caribbean people that yes, they would tell us,

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Speaker 3: all here, take.

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Speaker 1: A shot of ginger, you know, take a shot of

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Speaker 1: wheat grass. And we're really there just for the reef.

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Speaker 1: Call that bag, yeah, come back and the Caribbean. Why

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Speaker 1: does it seem like Caribbean people are more healthy and

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Speaker 1: holistic as well? That's very true.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, putting the weed conversation part aside.

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Speaker 7: In a Racipheen region, a lot of it is about

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Speaker 7: healthy eating, you know, a lot of it is about

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Speaker 7: how you know, you eat food that's grown from the

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Speaker 7: earth and So that's a big part of Caribbean culture,

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Speaker 7: Puerto Rican culture. You know, that's a big part of

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Speaker 7: a big part of all our cultures.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's healthy eating. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well in our communities

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Speaker 1: it's very healthy and excume the healthy. It's very popular

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Speaker 1: to the fried foods. Yeah, why are we prone to

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Speaker 1: liking fried foods?

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Speaker 7: You know, I think that's a flavor. That's one conceptual

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Speaker 7: flavor that we kind of learn and understand earlier on.

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Speaker 1: But it also.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't mean that we don't like stuff that's healthy and green,

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Speaker 7: like which you're drinking now. I mean I watch you

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Speaker 7: all the time when you're out there running on the beach, yes,

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 7: you know, and then pulling your kids along the state time.

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Speaker 7: That's a part of our culture too, you know. And

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Speaker 7: even if you think of like just all the different

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Speaker 7: kinds of foods we eat that's grown from the earth.

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Speaker 7: So again, healthy living, I think is a part of

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Speaker 7: just the broader Caribbean culture, and we need to think

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Speaker 7: about how we get it all that message out more

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Speaker 7: and more and more.

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Speaker 3: Now, is it safe to say that like a lot

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Speaker 3: of us that have our parents when we were first

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Speaker 3: generation Americans, that it was healthier eating, more organic eating

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Speaker 3: in the home countries, and then we're here and it's

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Speaker 3: just a fast paced living and that's the food that's

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Speaker 3: affecting our health.

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Speaker 1: You see, you see generational changes.

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Speaker 7: You know, you see particularly even in Cuban and Mexican

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Speaker 7: communities where women have lower birth rates of things like

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Speaker 7: infant mortality with but the longer they stay here, the

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Speaker 7: more you know, the culture and the stress and all

1146
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 7: of the things that make life unhealthy starts to impact

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Speaker 7: our health.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we definitely start to see a lot.

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Speaker 7: Of that generational dynamic developed, you know, as as more

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 7: and more and more as we get accustomed to a

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Speaker 7: lot of unhealthier addectivities.

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Speaker 4: I would say that it was also, you know, to

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Speaker 4: be an immigrant very stressful, and then you have a

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Speaker 4: predatory uh you know, fast food, commercial food indust commercial

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 4: food industry that uh you know, wasn't regulated properly, didn't

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Speaker 4: give information about what people were eating and the consequences

1157
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: of what they ate. I mean, there's a disproportionate share

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 4: of fast food fried stuff in black communities that there

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Speaker 4: are in white communities. So I think that aided that issue.

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Speaker 3: As well, and the symbolism behind it because growing up

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: to us, McDonald's was like luxury food, like a big

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Speaker 3: deal to go to McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, and it plays out right.

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Speaker 7: So we see like life expectancy in communities like right

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 7: around here much lower than if you're the dry ten

1166
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Speaker 7: minutes into Miami Beach or where people are have other

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Speaker 7: healthy options. So you know, this isn't just about about

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Speaker 7: where we are now. It's about where we have been

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Speaker 7: for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Do you know.

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Speaker 5: Let me put something in your in your mind.

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Speaker 4: For every dollar that America earns, we pay twenty to

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Speaker 4: twenty three cents to healthcare. That's crazy, Like we are

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Speaker 4: so out of whack to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to put it in perspective.

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Speaker 4: If and it's all reactive medicine, most of it is

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Speaker 4: all reactive. They're waiting for people to get fat, ignore

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Speaker 4: their health, get sick, and then they go and it

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Speaker 4: taxes the you know economy. Imagine if we could lower

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Speaker 4: that down to ten percent, where does that thirteen percent go?

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Speaker 5: Education? Right, you know, communities?

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: Maybe we could have music back in public education or

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: the arts and stuff like that. So when the money

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Speaker 4: is going in the disproportionate way, to you know, healthcare.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just insane that we don't tackle it.

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Speaker 4: And that has nothing to do with how disproportionate all

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Speaker 4: the effects of these diseases are in the black community.

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Speaker 4: And so that's I think real. But that should highlight

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Speaker 4: some of the big issues.

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Speaker 3: But doesn't it seem like an uphill battle to dislodge

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01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 3: the politics of it and all the money in politics

1192
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: that comes from pharmaceutical industries and all these different industries.

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Speaker 4: And that's why we want to go bottom up. And

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Speaker 4: every single one of your viewers and your listeners are

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Speaker 4: important because if we could get them more focused on

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Speaker 4: healthcare and being living healthy, it will deburden the the

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Speaker 4: institution and and and I think it would change a

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Speaker 4: lot of people's lives and change society's life too. We

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Speaker 4: need more education, We need higher paid teachers, We need

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Speaker 4: music and the arts back in these schools, and.

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Speaker 1: We need to just get this under control. That makes

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Speaker 1: no noise in that Let me actually, right, one of

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Speaker 1: these famous diets right now is this keto diet. So

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: everyone is ket keto. And how you've recently been going

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Speaker 1: to Europe this whole year, right, nobody in Europe but

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Speaker 1: didn't nobody's overweight. It's like I'm looking like, how's the work?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So you know what I tell my patients

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Speaker 7: is stay away from fat diets. You know, there's really

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Speaker 7: the thing about dieting is trying to be consistent over time.

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Speaker 7: What you've see in a lot of different communities. Again

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Speaker 7: in Cuban communities and Puerto Rican communities and Criban communities,

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Speaker 7: you see healthy eating that's a part of the culture

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Speaker 7: and stays that way over time. And that's the problem

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Speaker 7: with whatever diet of the month it is, or the

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Speaker 7: diet of the week, is that people get on it,

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Speaker 7: they go up and down, they lose lose gain weight,

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Speaker 7: and so those are the kinds of challenges. So we

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Speaker 7: the concept is how do you have a culture of

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 7: healthy eating that lasts for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 7: I know you pass on to your kids as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, because I'll guess my question is how come in

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Speaker 1: America that's our way is like the no bread But

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Speaker 1: in Europe that's like the first thing, like like they

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Speaker 1: etceet you first, and religion and nobody's big out there.

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Speaker 1: Are they making Europeans different than.

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Speaker 4: The control is a big part of all of this.

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Speaker 4: R yeah, there's not.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes about what you eat is about sometimes about how

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 7: much about you eat, and so if you eat a

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Speaker 7: lot of carbohydrates, that has one particular impact. But it's

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Speaker 7: not that everything all food is evil. A lot of

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Speaker 7: times it's the quantity as well as the quality of

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Speaker 7: the food that you eat.

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Speaker 4: Nor you know, I live in Europe, right, Yes, I

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Speaker 4: know you didn't invite me to your spots.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I heard you're posted up.

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Speaker 4: There. It's pretty sure. So I was in Sardinia. It's

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Speaker 4: an island in Italy. I wanted to go and visit

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Speaker 4: one of the Blue zones, Okay, and the Blue Zone.

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Speaker 4: There's five blue zones in the world, one in Japan,

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Speaker 4: one in this place in the mountains of Sardinia, one

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Speaker 4: in California.

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Speaker 5: I don't know whether Central America. What is a blue zone?

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Speaker 4: The blue zone is a community that lives healthy into

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:03,440
Speaker 4: their hundreds.

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Speaker 5: So it's just not a one off.

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Speaker 4: It's a community of people that for some reason are

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Speaker 4: living you know, into their hundreds, not in the hospital bed,

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Speaker 4: but like.

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Speaker 2: Playing after there.

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Speaker 4: And so I visited this community up in the mountains

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Speaker 4: of Sardinia, and I can tell you what my observation

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Speaker 4: was community. It's pretty simple, love companionship. But they're eating

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01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 4: a cheesy yogurt that is a probiotic that this is

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Speaker 4: the reason why this community and a certain type of

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Speaker 4: wine that is very pro something about probiotic and the gut.

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Speaker 5: And I think that.

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Speaker 4: And so when I did some discovery on the other

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Speaker 4: blue zones, you know, when you get paper for some reason,

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01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 4: you're interested in all this hit.

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Speaker 5: So what I.

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Speaker 4: Realized, and I'm luck for you to confirm or not,

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Speaker 4: it's something about the gut.

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Speaker 5: Is something super powered.

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Speaker 1: A second brain, right, yeah, second brain. I didn't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it helps to drive a lot of

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Speaker 7: your metabolism. And so that's why a lot of these

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Speaker 7: behaviors end up making you healthier overall.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a study that Tupac Chopo was talking about

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Speaker 1: everybody everybody knew, and he said that they put rabbits

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Speaker 1: in a cage and they fed them all poisoned. But

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Speaker 1: one set of rabbits they massaged and they you know,

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Speaker 1: played music to and like we're nice to. And even

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Speaker 1: though they he fed them all poison that those set

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Speaker 1: of rabbits that they were nice to took the poison

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Speaker 1: and and actually it became healthy. Is that something that

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be doing, Like, as we're eating, are

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Speaker 1: we supposed to be thinking positive and feeling good about ourselves?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's stress too, Yeah, exactly that that part of

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01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,839
Speaker 7: it around stress is important. Listen, we have a challenge

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Speaker 7: many times talking about mental health, stress and those kinds

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Speaker 7: of things in our community, particularly even as black and

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Speaker 7: brown men, you know, and so to the point of

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01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 7: even understanding that we have to normalize talking about hard days,

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Speaker 7: good days, bad days, stressful day, depression, you know, all

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Speaker 7: of those things. So so again, understanding how we normalize

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Speaker 7: the sculsuons about stress and how we attack it and

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Speaker 7: deal with it is a part of even that conversation.

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Speaker 3: And go back to what Leros earlier. He said, you know,

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Speaker 3: you get some paper, you start to think about these things.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the communities that are suffering from a

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Speaker 3: lot of disease, you know, they're nomic struggle there, you

1293
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But once you you come out

1294
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: of that struggle, you're like, oh, you have something to

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01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 3: live for, you want your family to live longer. You know,

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Speaker 3: you start to think about creating generational wealth. It's a

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Speaker 3: whole different ballgame.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And I also say, let's think about creating generational health

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Speaker 7: along with generational health.

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Speaker 4: And that's why we decided. You know, I don't like

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Speaker 4: celebrating myself noriy. I like being behind the scenes and

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01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 4: just watching this beautiful culture, you know, grow up.

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Speaker 5: See you choosing between lake.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: It's wonderful too to see there's a culture grow up and.

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Speaker 1: Be so successful.

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Speaker 4: But I realized that there's you know, I used to

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Speaker 4: never know anybody who died when I was, you know,

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Speaker 4: growing up. First person that died was jam Master Jake Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 4: first person that you know. People used to say, oh

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Speaker 4: I lost so and so and so. I didn't even

1314
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Speaker 4: understand that feeling. But as you get older, you start

1315
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 4: losing people, people that you care so deeply about that

1316
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 4: you take for granted. You know, everybody wants to go

1317
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: to a funeral and celebrate someone's life, and while they're alive,

1318
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 4: they didn't, you know, they didn't take the time.

1319
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: And so.

1320
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 4: The City of Hope asked me to do this numerous times,

1321
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: and I really didn't want to do this. In fact,

1322
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that the City of hope this

1323
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 4: event was something for many many years because I never

1324
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 4: got an invite, okay, until you know, rap music kicked

1325
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 4: down that fucking door. All of a sudden, I started

1326
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 4: getting the inviting and I started recognizing, like, wow, there's

1327
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: these events and these hospitals and these you know, the

1328
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 4: access to things. I had no idea, and I believe me,

1329
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 4: I was a decade successful. So I felt it coming

1330
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 4: a sort of way like what you know, like Grouch

1331
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 4: and Mark says, I won't belong to a club that

1332
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: would take me as a member, and so I said

1333
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 4: to myself, why do I Why am I going to

1334
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 4: do this? I don't want to celebrate myself. And then

1335
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 4: all these people started getting sick, and I really really

1336
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 4: wanted started to try to understand this whole cancer thing.

1337
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 4: What is it? What is it about? How is people

1338
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 4: getting affected? And then I saw the statistics about how

1339
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 4: the percentage of black people that get sick versus white people.

1340
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 4: Since my career has been based on black music, I

1341
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 4: felt like, wow, this is interesting. Let me talk to

1342
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 4: the hospital and discuss with them if they could do

1343
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: something to you know, fund this inequity in cancer. And

1344
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 4: they were incredible, like this hospital, which is the world's

1345
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 4: most famous hospital in cancer, cancer research, cancer treatment, the

1346
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: way they treat patients, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. They understood the

1347
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 4: inequity that was happening and they want to close the gap.

1348
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 4: And so the moment they said that they're ready to

1349
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:57,480
Speaker 4: put money to mobile vans that would go inside communities,

1350
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: black communities to get early detection, I said, ship, get

1351
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 4: over my fear and and let's make this happen.

1352
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I know, I'm bouncing around a little bit,

1353
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: but let me let me ask. At one point, my

1354
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: friend Roster, he's a vegan, right. Uh, he's also Jamaican, right,

1355
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I feel need to say that.

1356
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean.

1357
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 5: But listen, yeah, okay.

1358
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: At one point I was a vegan, right, And I

1359
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: the reason why I kind of got off of being

1360
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,919
Speaker 1: a vegan. I swear to God, I had no animal instincts,

1361
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Like I sweld of God Like people were stepping on

1362
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: my shoes and I was like, are you okay? Like

1363
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: I was just like I was just too soft, Like

1364
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: I just like, wait a minute, you know the meat.

1365
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like you only have animal instance

1366
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: if you're animal in you now was I walking? Oh?

1367
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think there's in a data

1368
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: wround that fact. Okay, right, because this is just me,

1369
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: this is my true right, right.

1370
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 7: But what I say to people that my patients often

1371
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 7: is choose a diet that works for you, that you

1372
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 7: can be on for a long time, not just something

1373
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 7: that feels good or somebody else is doing or is

1374
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 7: engaging just for this week or this moment. Because these

1375
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 7: are lifestyle decisions. And that's why I have to say

1376
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 7: and shout out to folks like you and others who

1377
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 7: have been really talking about lifestyle.

1378
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 5: You know, how do you?

1379
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: It could be more an exercise think about these things.

1380
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 7: So this is about creating a healthier lifestyle, not just

1381
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 7: about one die or vegan die. Works for you, then

1382
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 7: that works, but it doesn't work for you, and you

1383
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 7: need to find something that does.

1384
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Something that works for you. That's exactly right, exactly right.

1385
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 1: You like pescaria, You've been needing like fifteen years. You

1386
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: need fish to be That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I

1387
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: need fish to swim with. I'm cuting, what's that? Well?

1388
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: I want to dive deeper into the cancer research and

1389
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 3: everything going on because obviously, you know, we know that

1390
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people in different communities feel that there's

1391
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: a lot of conspiracy around that they feel that these

1392
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 3: treatments are there, that the cures are there, and they're

1393
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: just not giving access.

1394
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 2: What's what's the truth, what's really going on?

1395
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Truth be told.

1396
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 7: You know, the distrust between our black and brown communities

1397
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 7: and healthcare system has a lot of history.

1398
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: You know, they think that it's a skey experiment.

1399
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 7: All kinds of thing has happened that really have turned

1400
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 7: our communities off. And so we in healthcare need to

1401
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 7: make a proactive effort to engage people and bring them in.

1402
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 7: And when we think about things like cancer, we have

1403
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 7: really effective screening for cancer, you know, for colon cancer,

1404
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 7: especially for those who getting up in there for it

1405
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 7: is you know, you know, think about poland cancer screening,

1406
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 7: especially for women as they get into their fort they

1407
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 7: thinking about breast cancer screening and colon cancer is really

1408
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 7: impacting our Black community. Breast cancer taking away a lot

1409
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 7: of our queens, i mean, the black and brown communities.

1410
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 7: And so we have to really get out of the messagebout

1411
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 7: how we start to pull people in and listen. We've

1412
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 7: lo us a lot of our soldiers to cancer, you know,

1413
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 7: Guru from multim Milum, a lot of people who we

1414
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 7: all love and.

1415
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 1: Has contributed to our culture.

1416
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 7: So we have to think about how we start to

1417
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 7: again really get this message out of our own health

1418
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 7: and start to talk to our community.

1419
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: Is more about it.

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01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: You're powerful, guys, your your your voice is powerful.

1421
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Your plan on having it on the front page

1422
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 1: of YouTube or something like that, or we.

1423
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 7: Are trying to recruit people like you?

1424
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: You know what we want?

1425
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, well what we want we want we want influential

1426
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,480
Speaker 7: voices to try to help us communicate to the community.

1427
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 7: You know, I mean you have a lot of particularly

1428
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 7: a lot of folks and hip hop comunity. We don't

1429
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 7: talk a lot about help. You know, if you look

1430
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 7: at styles, you know, sounds, I mean I love some

1431
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 7: of the stuff sounds to say, and all of that

1432
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 7: stuff is ingreensboy health.

1433
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: And then how do we.

1434
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 7: So how do we connect all of those voices around

1435
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 7: some of the evidence and help to communicate to our community.

1436
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 7: And that's why I think it's just an evolution and

1437
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 7: a revolution that we're starting to see really around how

1438
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 7: we get the mess are a non healthcare so we

1439
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 7: want to start partnering more with artists and other people

1440
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 7: who have voices, have the community, have the engagement around

1441
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 7: you know, again, how we educate our community around a

1442
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 7: lot of these health messages.

1443
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's a deep man, It's deep.

1444
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: It's very deep. What else? What else we got in there?

1445
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,440
Speaker 1: Come on, let's get let's hitt to some points.

1446
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 3: We No, I still want to talk about the cancer things. Yeah, Okay,

1447
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm interested because, like I said, a lot of conspiracies

1448
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,440
Speaker 3: around cancer research and whether or not there's there's specific

1449
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 3: cures that like people feel that there's cures and they're

1450
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 3: just being held back.

1451
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:38,919
Speaker 1: Definitely.

1452
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1453
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 7: So I mean, truthfully, we have a lot of effective

1454
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 7: cres for cancer. We need to do a better job

1455
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 7: of how we bring in and get those cures to

1456
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 7: the black and brown community. I mean, we need to

1457
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 7: make sure that we're getting more folks into the clinical trials,

1458
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 7: but treatment and education and all of those kinds of things.

1459
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 7: So I would say that the healthcare system needs to

1460
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 7: do a better job, but we do have a lot

1461
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 7: of effective cares. Cancers come a long way dej from

1462
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 7: where it used to be, especially when you think about

1463
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 7: pediatric cancers and all of these kinds of things screening

1464
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 7: and how we can detect a polyp earlier before it

1465
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 7: becomes colon cancer, you know, how you can detect you know,

1466
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 7: breast malignancy earlier. So all of these kinds of things

1467
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 7: we're seeing advances, but the skepticism I would say that

1468
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 7: we've seen in our community. There's a history of where

1469
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 7: that came into being, and we need to respect that history.

1470
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 7: But we need to also do a better job of

1471
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 7: educating people and bringing them in doctor cancer be cured.

1472
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 7: You know, cancer is a big thing, right. There's a

1473
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 7: whole bunch of different kinds of cancers. There are some

1474
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 7: cancers that we have better treatment for than others, but

1475
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 7: we have a lot of real good treatment. One thing

1476
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 7: I will say eliarer that we have with cancer is

1477
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 7: a lot of cancers that we can find early and

1478
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 7: do something about. Like I said, colon cancer being one

1479
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 7: of them, and a lot of others. So the concepts

1480
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 7: around early detection is important, especially in our communities where

1481
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 7: we see less of those kinds of.

1482
01:33:55,080 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 4: What percentage I mean when you find out that you

1483
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 4: have cancer early versus like, what's the percentage opportunity of

1484
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 4: surviving that.

1485
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 7: Big difference, big difference. I mean, that's why the concept

1486
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 7: of early is a game changer, right. You know, if

1487
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 7: you can bring free early, if you can find something

1488
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 7: at stage on before it becomes stage four, you.

1489
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: Know, those things make a difference.

1490
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 7: And this is what's really hurting our community when you

1491
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 7: look at those numbers around and what's happening in the

1492
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 7: Bronx Brooklyn, you know, Queens, when you look at what's

1493
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 7: happening in LA and all the South Central what's killing

1494
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 7: our community are these diseases. So we really have to

1495
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 7: do a really better job of kind of bringing in

1496
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 7: early detention.

1497
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 3: But I think those ends up going back to economics

1498
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 3: because it sounds like screening is the big thing, like

1499
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: if you can catch it early. But I think a

1500
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 3: part of this issue is people not having insurance even if

1501
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: they do have insurance. I also even for myself, like

1502
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 3: I have to do the screening. I'm at the age

1503
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 3: where I have to do and me trying to figure out, okay,

1504
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 3: I have to go to the gastrologist and then you

1505
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 3: have to book this the day for the appointments months out,

1506
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 3: like it seems confusing. It seems difficult, and that's me

1507
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 3: with someone with insurance. You imagine the person that first

1508
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 3: of all, they have to get insurance. Yeah, I then

1509
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 3: you have to navigate and it seems like like you know,

1510
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 3: like you're it's something complicated which shouldn't be complicated.

1511
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: You're totally right now, we have to do a better job.

1512
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 7: Although shout out to you for getting your colon cancer

1513
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 7: screening because it's.

1514
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: On the books.

1515
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 7: Shout out for even planning planning to get it done.

1516
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 7: So that's actually a big thing right right there. But

1517
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 7: you're right, we have to do a better job of

1518
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 7: like simplifying the process and again demystifying the process because

1519
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 7: we have that lives.

1520
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 4: On YouTube, Like can you be to YouTube and actually

1521
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 4: go through.

1522
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 1: You do you do?

1523
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 4: We have we have a lot of information about how

1524
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 4: did they access that information?

1525
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 7: Just yeah, you just have to put in colon cancer. Okay,

1526
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:49,879
Speaker 7: you know colon cancer screening.

1527
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: And what about the insurance side of it?

1528
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, the insurance side of it. And that's

1529
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 7: where things always get a little bit more complicated. And

1530
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 7: that's where to your point that you just alluded to,

1531
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 7: you know, there are there are ways in which we

1532
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 7: need to build a better infrastructure to take care of

1533
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 7: our communities. And you're right, the maze of going through

1534
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 7: appointments and scheduling can be a challenge, but at the

1535
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 7: end of it is your life, right, you know, And

1536
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter how much money you have. If you

1537
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 7: don't live long, you don't live to enjoy it. So

1538
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 7: I would just say, you know, we do a lot

1539
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 7: of things. You know, if we're buying a house, we

1540
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 7: do a lot with a lot of challenges to get

1541
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 7: the mortgage, to get to get the house. So think

1542
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 7: about that when you go through all the challenges, and

1543
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 7: there are challenges and we need to do better, but

1544
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 7: think about the end goal of where you're trying to

1545
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 7: get to, and it really is about you know, saving her.

1546
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 3: But imagine those struggling families were both parents are working,

1547
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, full days, like imagine to even have the

1548
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 3: time to sit there. Like I told you, I'm going

1549
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 3: through the process and I'm like, this is crazy, this.

1550
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: Is taking me forever.

1551
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 3: I got to talk to my primary then they got

1552
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 3: a referral.

1553
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: I got to give me a couple of referrals. I

1554
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: guess the first one.

1555
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 3: Takes too and it's just I'm already, Like I can't

1556
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 3: I need an assistance, Like imagine the regular you know

1557
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,440
Speaker 3: with kids in the house, all works two jobs.

1558
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: Why, yeah, yeah, I mean you're right.

1559
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 7: I mean that's where we have challenges with the system

1560
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 7: and ways in which we need to work on making

1561
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 7: things better. But you're exactly right, especially for our communities,

1562
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 7: we have a disproportionate burden of those challenges.

1563
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 1: Right. I was watching the episode of Siindfeld the other day, right, sorry,

1564
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: the simple, simple, last ship, right, But I was watching

1565
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: an episode of Soundfeld and Jeorge the stanzas in the

1566
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: hospital and they've come in to take his tonsils out

1567
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 1: on them, and then and then and then Cramer says

1568
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: to him, man, I know somebody that would do it cheaper, right,

1569
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: So that he goes to the person and it's a

1570
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: holistic doctors, a holistic doctor. But I didn't realize that

1571
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: back then, holistic doctors was looked at us as a

1572
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: cheaper route to go. But there's a lot of people

1573
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: who believe in holistic healing. Is that something that you know?

1574
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 7: I think there's a role also a role for both

1575
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 7: holistic complementary healing the concept of spirituality and how all

1576
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 7: of that plays and these are either or they can

1577
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 7: work together. You know, you can get your screenings and pray.

1578
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 7: You know, you can engage in this thing and that thing.

1579
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 7: So again, what you find with a lot of this

1580
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 7: is that bringing these things together.

1581
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:06,520
Speaker 1: For now holistic.

1582
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 7: Do you know someone who's not trained taking out your

1583
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 7: ton So that's probably yeah, I don't think that was

1584
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,520
Speaker 7: a good Everything else in terms of like the complimentary

1585
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 7: holistic healing, I think as you're having that as a

1586
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 7: part of how we take care of patients is just

1587
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 7: how we take care of people.

1588
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 3: How about supplementation, what's your Yeah, you know, it depends certainly.

1589
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 7: I think if you're a deficient in a vitamin, you know,

1590
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 7: taking supplement there's there's some supplements that are helpful. So

1591
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 7: I think, you know, the other thing what I find

1592
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 7: about supplementation sometimes is it allows you to engage in

1593
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 7: this conversation about healthy eating overall, because the you know,

1594
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 7: the real crux of all of this is maintaining a healthy,

1595
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 7: balanced lifestyle over time. If you just do it for

1596
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 7: a month and it's fun, that doesn't really get you

1597
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 7: the effect. So the thing is how do you choose

1598
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 7: and engage and you know, start running with your kids

1599
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 7: and doing things and walking and talking with your friends

1600
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 7: about all these things.

1601
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that pays off over time.

1602
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 5: What about artificial intelligence?

1603
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, is that going to play into beating

1604
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: cancer and making it easy for these communities to get access?

1605
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, AI potentially has a role. You know

1606
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 7: that we're learning a lot about AI and health right now,

1607
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 7: and if it can simplify your appointment process and get

1608
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 7: the message out faster, then that's a good thing, you know.

1609
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 7: So anything that can simplify that back end I think

1610
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 7: is going to be important. So I think we're going

1611
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 7: to learn more about that Liria as the healthcare and

1612
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 7: AI start to evolve. But I think anything that can

1613
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 7: make it easier for you know, our people to get

1614
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 7: the things that they need will be important.

1615
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 2: How much do we need the government involved in this

1616
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 2: at all?

1617
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 4: I think the government's essential in this. But the government,

1618
01:39:54,760 --> 01:40:01,679
Speaker 4: I think they can't supplement what we need to do,

1619
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 4: and that is get the word out that we should

1620
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 4: be more careful caring of ourselves prior.

1621
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 5: To getting sick.

1622
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 4: The whole medical industry is based on once you get sick,

1623
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 4: and I think there should be significantly more funding from

1624
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 4: the government education to prevent sickness, to lower the twenty

1625
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 4: two to twenty three percent of our GDP down to

1626
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 4: normal levels, so we could reinvest in the communities in education, music,

1627
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 4: the arts just make our societies a more healthy place.

1628
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: We should be bipartisan, but unfortunately someone will hijack one

1629
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 3: way or the other.

1630
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be bipartisan. And I hope you guys

1631
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 4: show up on October eighteenth to my event with you

1632
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 4: you yeah, not only you know, I'm not gonna say

1633
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 4: they're honoring me. I think they're gonna honor you know,

1634
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 4: fifty years of hip hop. Many of my artists are

1635
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 4: coming out, Nori Okay are coming out to New York City,

1636
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 4: you know, No La Los Angeles. Ready, it's a black

1637
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 4: tie and we're sold out. We've raised millions and millions

1638
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 4: and millions of dollars and so we're going to have

1639
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 4: a great party. We're going to celebrate hip hop. We're

1640
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 4: going to do some good work.

1641
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: Listen.

1642
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 4: I was in Israel recently with my mother. She's ninety

1643
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 4: three years old. She had her four yeah, she had

1644
01:41:55,200 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 4: her four boys, sixteen grandchildren. Wow, and she's traveling all

1645
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,719
Speaker 4: over the world by herself. She's fully engaged in life.

1646
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 4: And I turned to her and I said, you know,

1647
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 4: you're very lucky, and she says, I know how lucky

1648
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 4: I am.

1649
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,839
Speaker 5: I said, why are you so lucky?

1650
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 4: And without hesitation, she said, the more you give, the

1651
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:22,839
Speaker 4: more you receive.

1652
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 5: That's it. And then like it's the mic drop, and so.

1653
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 4: You know, this is the reason why I'm doing this,

1654
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 4: is just to give. And I love the fact that

1655
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 4: we have a lot of influence, a lot of power,

1656
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:47,640
Speaker 4: a lot of reach, and so every once in a

1657
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 4: while doing some good things is a very powerful and

1658
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 4: important thing for us to do.

1659
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Do you think hip hop should have this own health insurance?

1660
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: I think.

1661
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 5: The answer is emphatically yes.

1662
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't want any of the artists that to not

1663
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 4: be able to after I mean, this is a very

1664
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 4: short career. You know, not everybody could reinvent themselves. A

1665
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 4: lot of musical people that are, you know, in a

1666
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 4: different planet.

1667
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 5: They're de vulnerable parts of our society.

1668
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 4: Just because they're talented and we're successful and well known

1669
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 4: and made some money doesn't mean that they were able

1670
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 4: to keep that money flowing. And they should not be

1671
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 4: without an insurance card and something to fall back on.

1672
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if the Grammys has a program of that,

1673
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 4: or Music Cares.

1674
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 5: Or I'm not sure.

1675
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Chuck D and Chuck D I believe.

1676
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 5: Well, Chuck D is like a beacon of good shit.

1677
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1678
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 4: He just keeps He just keeps trying to push the

1679
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 4: envelope through the right things. Amazing and the whole nine.

1680
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, I would like to see that. I would

1681
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 4: like to.

1682
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 5: See this community grow old gracefully. Thank you.

1683
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you another a great meeting. I'm with you,

1684
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: and you offered me a great deal. But I was like, Leo,

1685
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 1: you know I'm hot, these people offer me more, and

1686
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you said to me. He looked at

1687
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: me like a man, and you said, if it's all

1688
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: about money, didn't take the deal. But if it's about

1689
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: your career, then you're at the right place. Thank you.

1690
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: I guess what, Andy, the way, you gotta understand how

1691
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: hard that is for a person to calculate that and say,

1692
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: you know what, because what he's saying is righteous. It's

1693
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: saying like, yo, bro, these guys are just investing because

1694
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: you're hot. For now, I'm going to show you a career,

1695
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: and you showed me a career.

1696
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1697
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I'm gonna show you. I'm

1698
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna also tell you. I remember you're telling me. You

1699
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and cav It's like, yo, we're gonna have you on

1700
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: tour for the and for the rest of the duration.

1701
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: And boy did I do tours from Survival or the

1702
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: Fittest to Amazing all these tours that and it was

1703
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 1: like I just knew that I made the right decision.

1704
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 5: Man.

1705
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,480
Speaker 1: So I always wanted you to know that face to face,

1706
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: talk about you, talk about you like Jesus. When you're

1707
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 1: not not around, I can't say it in your face.

1708
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 5: You know, thank you. I prefer Moses, but I'll take

1709
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 5: Jesus up. Okay, leave it. I need to get to London.

1710
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get to London. I haven't been in London.

1711
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 4: I need to get Okay, you don't know. We see,

1712
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 4: we see the warning. So we got here's here's here's

1713
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 4: my question. Because okay, I mean I did. I'm a

1714
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 4: veteran of drink tram Yes, yes, yes, and I want

1715
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 4: to come back and do it again because I'm not finished.

1716
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: Okay, but hold on, we got two more okay, okay.

1717
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: One is this is a lifelong question, not life long question,

1718
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: but for hip hop people it always pops up. Did

1719
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: le A is Lee all the reason Jay Z and

1720
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: Dame Dash is not together?

1721
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely not?

1722
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just like if Leon was the reason, then

1723
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 4: they never were together in the first place, Okay, right.

1724
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: Like driving? Yeah? God, so okay, And then I had

1725
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: just next to the last ones. So now you do

1726
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: you dominate from Atlantic? I mean, excuse me for wanna

1727
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: you start three hundred? What makes you go from three hundred?

1728
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 1: And did you start all these new artists? You do

1729
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 1: it again? Like no one says you could do it again?

1730
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Like you.

1731
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 4: They're laughing at me, Norie, they're laughing at me when

1732
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 4: I started three hundred?

1733
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: What do you say? We create? We create yourself?

1734
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were laughing at me.

1735
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 4: They're saying, heaven the realized that the music industry is fucked,

1736
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 4: and what does he know? And shouldn't he just retire

1737
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 4: the whole ninth And all I could say to you

1738
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 4: is I don't pay attention to what people have to

1739
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 4: say about me. You give me the inspiration when I

1740
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 4: see you and the dapt the people know me, understand

1741
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 4: what I'm all about out and that's good enough for me.

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01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 4: I don't really care. I'm not tethered to social media.

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Speaker 4: I'm focused on waking up every day and trying to

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Speaker 4: contribute and do something good. So three hundred I knew

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01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 4: that there was going to be a bounce in the business.

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01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 4: Anybody who would bet against music always loses, So it

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01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 4: was so obvious to me. Everybody's going shorting music. I

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01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 4: would take that bet any day. Nine years later, sell

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Speaker 4: the company for four hundred and forty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Did you sell three hundred for four hundred? Yeah?

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01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the and the.

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: I'm so grateful for the artists that believed in me.

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01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 4: And companies that believed in me, and it's just it's

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Speaker 4: really great.

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Speaker 1: Well on behalf of all the artists who you've changed

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01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: their life were happy that you believed in the thank

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Speaker 1: you understand I'm saying, we were grateful and we take

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01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: the faith. Man. What's the last question? So how do

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01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: you transition from the guy that is uh now, I

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01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how you kind of put that,

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01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, but it's like the guy who's putting out

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01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: the music as opposed to the guy that's creating the

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01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:38,480
Speaker 1: music and manufacturing it. This is the YouTube.

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Speaker 4: So YouTube is a very important platform.

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Speaker 5: It helps with.

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Speaker 4: The global culture.

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 5: It helps for artists to cut through the.

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01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 4: It allows them to be heard and connect with their fans.

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01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 4: We build products to make it easier for their fans

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Speaker 4: to discover new music.

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01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: We give everybody a voice and show them the world.

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Speaker 4: And it was a very difficult transition, but it was

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01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 4: a told that I was willing to play because I

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01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 4: get to play with a platform that has two plus

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01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 4: billion daily active uns. So I want to make a difference.

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01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,759
Speaker 4: I want to make a big impact. And I wanted

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01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 4: the music industry to understand that YouTube was their friend,

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01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 4: not their foe.

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Speaker 5: You know that.

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 4: UGC used to be a four letter word. They hated

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01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 4: UGC user generated content.

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Speaker 1: Let's go napstart though.

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01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 8: Right, No, No, no user generated When they when I said

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01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 8: uses your song for their video, to me, I think

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01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 8: that's a much bigger expression of care for your music

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01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 8: than the passive listen.

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 4: And so thirty percent of the revenue and we sent

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 4: over six billion dollars in the last twelve months, growing

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01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 4: rapidly to the music industry, and thirty percent of that

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01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 4: is from UGC user generate the content because we invested

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01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 4: in content id.

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01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,839
Speaker 1: So which pays the licenses that we.

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01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:49,600
Speaker 4: Can detect the computer can detect when a creator or

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01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 4: user uses your music and you get paid for it.

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01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 4: And to me, that's a huge investment that we're the

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01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 4: only ones that made. It's a huge campus in Zurich

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01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 4: and Switzerland YouTube. So it's it's the respect for creations.

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01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 4: It's the respect for creation. But think about when UGC

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 4: was a four letter word, but now it's core to

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01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 4: the industry. And I think the same thing is going

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 4: to happen with AI and jen ai. Jen AI is

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01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 4: going to come in. There's there's a huge opportunity I'm sorry,

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:35,520
Speaker 4: generative AI where the computers learned from the computers.

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01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,879
Speaker 2: And so there's no fear from your side of anything.

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01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 4: Of course there is, of course there is. There is

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01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 4: a lot of focus. We've created principles and have guidelines

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01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 4: and we're working with the industry to create a framework

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01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 4: that is healthy.

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01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 5: It creates a.

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01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 4: Healthy framework of control, monetization and attribution. And once we

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01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 4: have that framework in place, I think that you're going

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01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 4: to experience a new era, an amazing new era.

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Speaker 3: What's your take on the Sorry, but what's your take

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01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 3: on the AI generated like voices and basically redoing artists's.

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01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,919
Speaker 1: Voice everybody tries to do Leo Cohen's oppression.

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01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's just a bad I think there's

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01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 4: just so much. For example, think about if you have

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01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 4: writer's block and AI could help you.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I want this to be a tool for creativity. I

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01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 4: want this to be a jet pack for human creativity,

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01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 4: not a replacement. And so this is a brand new

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01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 4: world that we're on the verge of.

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01:53:58,600 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 5: Guys.

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01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: Be clear, this is coming so much faster than you

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01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 4: could ever imagine. I'm co signing bold and Responsible AI

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01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 4: that we work together in shaping the future.

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Speaker 5: That's what I co.

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01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,600
Speaker 2: Signed responsible as the main word, bold.

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 4: And responsible, because we can't put our head in the

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01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 4: sand and think that this is not going to happen

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01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 4: like we did.

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: With NAP exactly exactly.

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01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 5: You've got to be.

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 4: On our front foot. We've got to be offensive and

1837
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 4: we've got to make things happen. Okay, entrepreneur hip hop style,

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01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. How we are the first

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01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 4: adopters of new technology, new ideas. We're open minded to

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01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 4: win so let's shape the future together and let's clasp

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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 4: last question.

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Speaker 1: Very last, d did you think that jay Z would

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: be hip hop's first billionaire?

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01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about this billionaire and bullshit.

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01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 4: I think it's a bunch of bullshit, Okay, I I

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01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 4: think I wasn't expecting that. I think what I'm proud

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01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 4: of is jay Z as a father, as a businessman,

1848
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 4: as pushing the boundaries of the possibilities. All this billionaire

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01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 4: bullshit is like a marketing tool. It's like hip Hop

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01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 4: fiftieth It's a marketing tool. I celebrate hip hop every

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 4: single day. I don't need fifty years an.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better way to in that.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna love drop my job.

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