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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Some guys welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 2: We are presented by Splittero as always owined by the

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Speaker 2: voice of the Chargers Matt Mudey Smith. A bit of

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Speaker 2: a luci agenda A week after the Super Bowl money,

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Speaker 2: I guess first off, we should congret corest the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: Jay Harball, you, Chennan Nuo Su some Chargers ties there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know we had we had folks

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Speaker 3: on each side. Hunter Henry was excited when he caught

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Speaker 3: that first ball, and obviously with Chena getting the interception

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Speaker 3: return for a touchdown was sensational. Southern California, you know,

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Speaker 3: through and through a Narbonne Gaucho, a USC Trojan, a

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Charger. I think, you know, on this very podcast,

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Speaker 3: when you know he left, I think we both were like, Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's that's a bit of a bummer.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Contract wasn't that big. And chen has been great. He's

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Speaker 3: high character guy, so I think he mix all of

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Speaker 3: those things together and it's like, yeah, that's cool, you know.

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Speaker 3: And obviously same thing for Sam Donald, San Clementy Triton,

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Speaker 3: a Trojan, you know that won a Rose Bowl against

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Speaker 3: ben State. Heck of a game, and you think about

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Speaker 3: sort of the path that he had to take to

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Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl and it's a reminder that you know,

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Speaker 3: it looks different for everyone and it's not easy. And

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Speaker 3: so congratulations to Mike McDonald. Kind of lets you know

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Speaker 3: why the Ravens probably hired Jesse Minner and they let

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Speaker 3: that guy get away and they're like, yeah, you can

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Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl with defense, and let's bring Jesse

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Speaker 3: out here to try to do what Mike McDonald did

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Speaker 3: up there in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt to me that it had the Harball

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Speaker 2: figure prints all over it when you talk about Mike

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Speaker 2: McDonald and what Jesse Mitcher did here and now going

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Speaker 2: to Baltimore and just it showed I guess it shows

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Speaker 2: me that, you know, coach Harball has got this thing

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Speaker 2: on the right track, that back to back eleven win seasons.

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Speaker 2: When you see people from his tree kind of branch

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Speaker 2: off and you know his son was a legit Special

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Speaker 2: Team's candidate. Here he's done wonders with that Special Teams unit.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of cool to see some of these

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Speaker 2: former Wolverines that have ties to coach Harball. Oyster and

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Speaker 2: a Lombardi.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, just go back to the NFC Championship game, right

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Speaker 3: and you think about special teams and you got a

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Speaker 3: They fired their special teams coordinator in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the season or late in the season, I should say

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Speaker 3: they had issues with their kicker. They had issues with

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Speaker 3: punt return people forget how important you know special teams are,

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Speaker 3: and you think about Rashid Shiheed. You can make a

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Speaker 3: case best punt returner in football in the conversation. You know,

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Speaker 3: Michael Dixon best punter in football, and Jason Myers as

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Speaker 3: reliable as they come. And that's where, like you said,

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Speaker 3: as you try to flip it back to the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: how do you feel about Cam Dicker?

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Speaker 3: Obviously you can make a gate well, he is historically,

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Speaker 3: do think we've talked about it in terms of returner.

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Speaker 3: They've tried to kind of sort through that, and I

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Speaker 3: feel bad for Darius Davis because he feels it just

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Speaker 3: do think that's something that they'll have to identify and

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Speaker 3: and that's kicked the living heck out of the ball

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Speaker 3: it felt like, you know, special teams got kind of

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Speaker 2: combine last year and we had Sam Monson on and

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Speaker 2: obviously he made some waves with his Justin Herbert MVP vote.

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Speaker 2: I just was curious your thoughts on what Sam did,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, in the case of Sam,

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Speaker 3: where he's coming from the team made the playoffs. You know,

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Speaker 3: they made the playoffs by sitting all their starters in

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Speaker 3: Week seventeen to give them the best opportunity to win.

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Speaker 3: It's a regular season award, it's not a postseason award.

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Speaker 3: I think the one thing that's that's incredibly wrong for

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Speaker 3: all the incoming that Sam took is just to assume

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Speaker 3: that he would have voted for Drake May, that that

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Speaker 3: that's where his vote would have gone. That you know,

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, Drake May was one first place vote

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Speaker 3: We who's to say he wasn't going to vote for

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Speaker 3: for Matt Stafford, for Christian McCaffrey, Like.

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Speaker 2: I thought, City did vote for Stafford's second, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's like it doesn't matter, you know, it does.

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Speaker 3: That's that's beside the point. Drake May did not lose

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Speaker 3: the MVP because Sam Monson voted for Herbert and Matt

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Speaker 3: Stafford would have just won by a wider margin as

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Speaker 3: far as his position. It's you know, and I'll be

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Speaker 3: fan duel and believe, But like, you know, what he

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Speaker 3: what kind of as I dug back into it, I've

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Speaker 3: the punishment that he has taken. Man, Like the hits,

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Speaker 3: the sacks, the injuries. The last few years. You got

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Speaker 3: that he still wears, a splint on on his left hand.

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Speaker 3: He busted his ribs against the Chiefs a few years back,

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Speaker 3: week and starts this season. Man, he took some big hits.

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Speaker 3: I mean big hits where the protection schemes weren't just failing,

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Speaker 3: and I guess this is where you know we can

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Speaker 3: Part of me is just like, man, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel's here, and that should change, and you should

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Speaker 3: think about him. That's gonna help. But man, for me,

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Speaker 3: I just go into twenty twenty six saying we have

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Speaker 3: is the number one priority in whatever they do, however

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Speaker 3: they want to spend their money. This guy cannot get

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Speaker 3: hit seventy five times again, He cannot get sacked fifty

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Speaker 3: four times again. He cannot take that sort of abuse

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Speaker 3: for the third consecutive season. I just don't think it's

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Speaker 3: I thought we talked about it. I thought mentally he

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But for me, like my number one priority this offseason

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Speaker 3: would be let's get that center position fixed and number one,

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Speaker 3: that is priority number one, and then figure out how

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Speaker 3: is right, man, reach out to him, figure out how

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Speaker 3: he's doing. I know you took a pounding, man, You've

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Speaker 3: got an MVP vote because of that pounding you took.

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Speaker 3: Let's figure this thing out and make sure we're square

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Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty six. So you're excited about it,

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Speaker 3: and you're not thinking about these last two years and

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Speaker 3: the amount of punishment that this guy, you know, And

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Speaker 3: rambling here, Chris, Sorry, I just kind of finally close

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Speaker 3: on I think about that hit he took from shoot

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Speaker 3: the football in that wild card game, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to see that anymore, man, I

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Speaker 3: do not want to see that in twenty six.

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Speaker 2: No, And there was just too many instances of that.

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Speaker 2: I remember the Jacksonville game where he got absolutely drilled

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Speaker 2: But in terms of just straight value, I remember the

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Speaker 2: literally doing it by himself, right, And you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't expect voters to watch every single snap

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Speaker 2: and I don't think he should have gotten an MVP

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Speaker 2: and I think just if we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: like this is this guy, you take him away this

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Speaker 2: is a three or four win team. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that that's the case with the Chargers, but maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: we have to rethink in light of the Belichick stuff,

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Speaker 2: maybe we have to rethink voting as a whole across

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's because you can make that case for

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Speaker 3: any quarterback. Right, what are the Rams with Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 3: What are the You know you can and that I

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Speaker 3: provide that argument for any team. The difference with Herbert

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Speaker 3: is why, you know, the why. It's not the oh

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Speaker 3: if you just removed him, what would happen? It's the

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Speaker 3: justin Herbert overcame the issue that is routinely provided for

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Speaker 3: a quarter back's failure. Why did Drake May, a one

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Speaker 3: first place vote away from the MVP, look the way

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Speaker 3: he looked in the Super Bowl? Why did he look

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Speaker 3: that way against the Chargers? Why did he look that

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Because his offensive line wasn't great? So when you face

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Speaker 3: he didn't look and those were garbage stats at the end,

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Speaker 2: Michigan's So he was there when Jialil was there, so

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Speaker 3: work with him to make him, you know, a better

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Speaker 3: pass protector at that position. Or Connor McGovern you know,

435
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Speaker 3: who's coming off a pretty healthy deal, a three year,

436
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: twenty three or twenty four million dollar deal at Center

437
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: and I'll probably be looking for a bump up from that.

438
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: I would guess he's going to be, you know, north

439
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: of twelve thirteen million bucks a season going into what

440
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: is he going into I think year eight? Yeah, so

441
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: going into year eight and like to me, he's only

442
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, you know, he's so he's still young

443
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: still and you know, in the prime of his career.

444
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 3: And I think that maybe plays a little bit more

445
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: into what McDaniel wants to do. So I think you're

446
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 3: fortunate that you have a couple of options, because I

447
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: think to me, the veteran makes a little more sense,

448
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: you know. I think you look at someone like Frasier

449
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: taken in the second round in Pittsburgh, and that was

450
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Speaker 3: someone we talked about here repeatedly and he's been great,

451
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: and yeah, you can absolutely go that route. But for me,

452
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Speaker 3: just kind of the way it's gone the last two

453
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Speaker 3: years with Bozeman, I just would love to see, you

454
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Speaker 3: know that if I got all and Slater and that

455
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: veteran potential All Pro center, then I feel like these

456
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Speaker 3: two we can figure out. You know, you can figure

457
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Speaker 3: out if you go into the guard market, which is

458
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: also pretty healthy, you know, in terms of what's available.

459
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: David Edward's gonna I mean, you take both guys from Buffalo.

460
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: David Edwards gonna get a chunk. Now he's gonna he's

461
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Speaker 3: going to get a big number. You got Braden Smith

462
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: ed Ingram, who just was kind of a one year

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: wonder in Houston. I don't know if I'm crazy about

464
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: that Potonio Wyatt Teller are options out of out of Cleveland.

465
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: You bring an injury risk there that the big wild

466
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Speaker 3: card is Elijah Vera Tucker, you know, whom the Chargers were.

467
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Speaker 2: Going to draft that the trojan.

468
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Speaker 3: My understanding was that was the guy they had circled

469
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Speaker 3: because they had they did not think there was a

470
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Speaker 3: chance in heck that Slater was going to be there.

471
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Speaker 3: They they had kind of figured he's going to be

472
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Speaker 3: gone early. So when he was there, they were doing

473
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: backflips and sprinted that card in. But my understanding was

474
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Speaker 3: Vera Tucker was the guy that they had identified positional flexibility,

475
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: incredibly smart, strong, promised, guy's dealt with ridiculous injuries. Yeah,

476
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: so and he's gonna do you.

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Speaker 2: Want to go down that road? That's that would be

478
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Speaker 2: my only thing is do you want to go down

479
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Speaker 2: that road with somebody who's had as many injuries as

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Speaker 2: Elijah Verte Tucker when you're coming off a year where

481
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: your too much important players are coming off season ending injuries.

482
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the issue.

483
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: And that's where you know you can you get him

484
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Speaker 3: at a discount, a hometown discount, right because he's what

485
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: torn triceps, second, torn triceps and an achilles. So he's

486
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: torn both tries and an achilles twenty two, Week seven,

487
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Speaker 3: twenty three, Week five, twenty five in practice in September,

488
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: So like that's it's not ideal. But holy cow, is

489
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Speaker 3: he good man? And my goodness, would he be good

490
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: you know in this in this offense. So he's not

491
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Speaker 3: a southern California guy, even though he went to USC's

492
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Speaker 3: from Oakland.

493
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Speaker 4: But he's a.

494
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Speaker 3: California guy, and you know, I would assume you're like,

495
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Speaker 3: get me out of the New York Jets please.

496
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Speaker 4: I did not want to be in the business.

497
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: So that you know, that's that's the wild is. Let

498
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: me see what's uh, what does spoke Treck have him?

499
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: His market value he's got, They've got him at twelve

500
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Speaker 3: point eight. I've got to believe he's gonna get more

501
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Speaker 3: than that. I mean, if you know, we all say this,

502
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: everybody knows the name by now if you pay attention

503
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: to football and this sort of stupid stuff. Aaron Banks

504
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: got nineteen million bucks per year. So like, even with

505
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Speaker 3: the injuries, I'm sure his agents are like, yeah, not

506
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: gonna do it for twelve point eight. It's gonna it's

507
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: gonna take a little bit more. But that's the real

508
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: That one's interesting. The other, baddy, what about what.

509
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Speaker 2: About former just start sorry interrupt, what about former Dolphins

510
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: offensive line guys that Mike McDaniel's familiar with, right, I'm

511
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: just looking. I'm just looking and listen, I don't see

512
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: any uh Liam Eichenberg, Larry Borum, uh Okay, Daniel brunt Skill.

513
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Speaker 2: I'm interesting and maybe not even just from a death person,

514
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: like guys who know what Mike McDaniel wants to do,

515
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: the guys who have been in that system over the

516
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: last several years, maybe not maybe not top end starters,

517
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: but guys that can fill depth roles, that know what

518
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: to expect from Mike McDaniel, that can maybe help some

519
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: of these guys along the way that that are new

520
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: to this system. I'm just thinking of guys that that

521
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: can maybe make the learning curve a little bit less

522
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Speaker 2: steep for maybe some of the guys that are already

523
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Speaker 2: in house. Well.

524
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Speaker 3: Right, So Brunschiol's just he's he's a he's a depth piece.

525
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: So that's just a depth piece. Only played fifty one

526
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Speaker 3: snaps last season. Let's see what we got. Cole Strange.

527
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cole Strangers there too.

528
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Speaker 3: Played four point fifty once. He got a ninety seven

529
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: to five pass block efficiency. Not great, not terrible, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: Like that's what we're talking about. Can you get can

531
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Speaker 3: you get okay. You know, if you if you drop

532
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: the wad of cash on the center and you've got

533
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Speaker 3: all that money or draft capitaling or two tackles, can

534
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: you load up with Okay? Because look, let me pull

535
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: this up. I forgot to open this. My apologies everybody

536
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: that's watching as I make you wait here. But when

537
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: you go through the Chargers offensive line, and understand, I'm

538
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: just assuming that they're going to move on from Mkai Becton.

539
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: You were talking about Zion Johnson, Bobby Hart, Andre James,

540
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Trey Pipkins, Trevor Penning, Jamari saw Your, Austin Deculus, mckaie, Beckton.

541
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Speaker 3: All those guys are free agents, every single.

542
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Speaker 4: One of them.

543
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight guys

544
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: on the offensive line are going to be free agents.

545
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: So that's where stuff like cole Strange and brun Skill

546
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: and that sort of stuff can come into play as

547
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: you're trying to remake this room. And and you know

548
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: what's it going to cost to bring back some of

549
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: these because we know there's there's a there's a heavy

550
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: need for these guys. Well, I would assume that Mary

551
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: Sawyer is going to get a look at a starting gig.

552
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: You know, Trevor Penny may get a look at a

553
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: starting gig as a guard as opposed to just a

554
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: depth piece. So you know if the Zion Johnson number

555
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: will be interesting and how they want to approach that,

556
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: because we know how much they love him. You know,

557
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: he's part of the block of Granite crew. So you

558
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: know that's that that is the most It's a great

559
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: point by you, though, are there former Dolphins are just

560
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: kind of going through their grades.

561
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: You know, here I'm looking at Liam. Look at Liam

562
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Eikenberg because this is a guy he went to Notre Dame.

563
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: He's been with the Dolphins is twenty twenty one, twenty one.

564
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: He's started sixteen games at left tackle, so at left

565
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: guard twenty two, across the line in twenty three, right

566
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Speaker 2: guard in twenty twenty four. I feel like those are

567
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: the types of guys I'm talking about. He his fifty

568
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: two starts in four years. Guys that are that know

569
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel knows them, and and maybe maybe

570
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: those are the types of death pieces you fill out.

571
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: But in terms of just like bringing in a starting center,

572
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: right Lindarbaum's is the Prize. You mentioned Zion Listen, Zion

573
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: is going to get a lot of money somewhere that

574
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: if it's if it's not here, it's going to be

575
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I think we're both in agreement with that.

576
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: Becton probably is not a great fit for what Mike

577
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: McDaniel wants to do. And then I just I feel like,

578
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 2: if you're Joe Ortiz, you want to come in with

579
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: a with a very strong backup playing to Alton Slater.

580
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: Just the hope is those guys are one hundred percent

581
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: ready to go right, but you can't recreate what happened

582
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: last year with the depth behind those guys. And I

583
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: know that it was kind of unforeseen circumstances. It's fluky,

584
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: but at the same time, it's like, man, it's I

585
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: think you kind of live with those scars. You don't

586
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: want to have that happen again.

587
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think in the case of Rashawn it's

588
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's an early injury. The Pteller injury is

589
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: not especially for Seawan. Yeah, the ankle you're like total freak,

590
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: you know, rolled up on it happens, and unfortunately it

591
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: happened twice to the same ankle. But we assume as

592
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: he goes back to the right side, you know, very

593
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: good chance that that same ankle isn't going to be

594
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: in the position apparel that it is on the left side.

595
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: So but yeah, you're right, and you know, and in

596
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: the case of Iikeenberg, I think what happens with Eichenberg

597
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: is you fall in love with the draft profile. You know,

598
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: the fact that he was out of Notre Dame, that

599
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: he was on, you know, the watch list, that he's

600
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: part of the best line in football, that sort of thing.

601
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: And then you get drafted in the late first or

602
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: high second round and you know these guys, you know,

603
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: they're dudes that we talked about the Chargers potentially drafting,

604
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: and then it doesn't work out and you get kicked

605
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: inside the guard and it's okay. And I think that's

606
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: sort of how Joe is going to have to Georgie's

607
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: is gonna have to figure out how he wants to

608
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: spend his money. You know what, if you're going to pay,

609
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: if you're going to pay a way and you're going

610
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: to pay Khalil, and Khalil's a lot tougher because it's

611
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: a one year deal. So that's just a straight punch

612
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: to your cap space, whatever that number is. If you're

613
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: going to extend to Lee because you don't want him

614
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: get into free agency, and maybe you can get a

615
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: little bit of a break to do it now as

616
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: you build the last year of his rookie deal into

617
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: the overall deal to lower that average salaries what you

618
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: want to do. And I even made the case for this,

619
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: and people were not happy with me, but I said,

620
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: you know what, man, I would just make Herbert the

621
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: highest paid quarterback in football after the last two years.

622
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: I got no problem saying, you know what, let's tack on,

623
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: let's tack on two more and let's just get your pay.

624
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: You're at fifty five right now, let's get your past Dak.

625
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: We can adjust the numbers to make it work and

626
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: lessen the impact on the overall number. But I don't

627
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: think there's anything wrong with saying, and you went through

628
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 3: hell last year, and you went through hell the year before,

629
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: and we appreciate the way you fight through all of this,

630
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: and here's something that we can give you that's X.

631
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: But also we can move quarterback. Look, quarterback contracts are ATMs,

632
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: and you can add years to the back and give

633
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: some money up front and raise that average annual and

634
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: find yourself with a little bit more money, so you

635
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: can give Durwin an extension, so you can give Toole

636
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 3: an extension. You can sign away, you can sign Khalil,

637
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: you can go out and get mc governor, Linderbaum, you

638
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: can get these guards, and that's the Bank of Herbert.

639
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: That's what you can do with all of that money

640
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: and building some more years onto the back end of it,

641
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: while also saying thanks man, we know what you went

642
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: through and we appreciate it.

643
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: It's always going up. The price of the quarterback is

644
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: going to go up every single year. The cap is

645
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: going to go up every single year. I listen if

646
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: there's a way that you can massage the cap and

647
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, extend to Aly, extend Derwin, bringing guys across

648
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: the offensive line, you know. Wide receivers another position where

649
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: I feel like we're split. When when you talk to

650
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: fans and you hear kind of their their feedback on

651
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: the wide receiving group, I feel like Trey Harris to

652
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: me is ascending, Like I don't look at what we

653
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: saw from Trey Harris this year as to what we're

654
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: gonna get this upcoming year. I think you're gonna see

655
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: a big jump from Trey Harris. I think that Lad

656
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: is a wide receiver one. Some folks think he's a

657
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver two, he's a one. I think he's a one,

658
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: and I think he's a one. Especially in this Mike

659
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: McDaniel offense. He's gonna find ways to make him, uh

660
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: the featured guy. Uh the yards after catch, his speed,

661
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: his ability to catch. You know, he had some drops

662
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: this year, but you know he's been pretty sure handed

663
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: outside of a couple of kind of outside of the

664
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: norm games in twenty twenty five. That that mini movie

665
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: on Keenan was awesome. You know, you wonder if Keenan's

666
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: gonna come back and and give it one more year.

667
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: I think that's that's to be determined one of the storylines,

668
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: uh this this march as we approach free agency. But

669
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, with with wide receiver, I mean, is that

670
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: in the equation in terms of finding another guy in

671
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: free agency?

672
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: I think that's you know, to me, that's as I'm

673
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: looking at the list, they're just so expensive, you know,

674
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Rashid Shiheed, who's just kind of like

675
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: a you know, take the top off great punt returner

676
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: and and and spow Tracks got him at fifteen million

677
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: a year, like that's you know, that's that's Connor McGovern

678
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: plus a backup guard like at wide receiver, that's you know,

679
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel at sixteen million, Wan Dale Robinson they have

680
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: projected at seventeen million. Obviously, George Pickens at thirty million.

681
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: I was like when I saw the list before I

682
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: clicked market value and I saw Juwan Jennings and I

683
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, McDaniel was there in San Francisco

684
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: and they love Jewan Jennings there, and then I was like, oh,

685
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: they've got him at twenty three million average value. Like

686
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: to me, I I think that it's it's a my question, Hey,

687
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: what do you need, Mike McDaniel question, What is it

688
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: that we don't have that you would think you need?

689
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 3: And to me, I think there's enough there.

690
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: Man.

691
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: I think when he talked about I don't need four

692
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: three guys, any guys that play fast, I think that's

693
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: Trey Harris to a t Like he may be running

694
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: in the in the high four fours, but he looks

695
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: fast out there. To me, man, there's separation. He's great

696
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: and contest to catch situations. He's got sure hands, he

697
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: runs great routes. You know, if you roll out there

698
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: and you're starting three wide receivers are c Lad and Trey,

699
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about that, you know, I feel

700
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: pretty darn good about that. I'd love to see just

701
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: crazy track speed, you know, and when when you kind

702
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: of get in here and you see like a Taekwon Thornton,

703
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: and you know, are those guys they still got to

704
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: be able to catch it or else. Nobody cares how

705
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: fast you are, right, But I do think there's potentially

706
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: and I think you can find those guys in the draft,

707
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: right Like, I think you can find that raw speed

708
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: if you're going to trade out of twenty two and

709
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: pop back, you know, if that player that guaranteed first rounder,

710
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: depending on how many you have on your board. You know,

711
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: we talk about it all the time. Right Typically, teams

712
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: are gonna find anywhere from twelve to eighteen first round grades.

713
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: If it's a really deep draft, you might get to

714
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: twenty and so if somehow one of those gets to

715
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: twenty two, then you take them. But if it's not there,

716
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: trade back, man, because that's where you can find your

717
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: non premium positions, your guards, your centers, your linebackers, your safeties,

718
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: you know. And now look, people are talking about Caleb

719
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: down sliding because he's probably not gonna test well if

720
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: he's sitting there. Okay, let's go like that's would be crazy.

721
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: You know, if Woods is sitting there, let's go. You know,

722
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of the you know, Woods

723
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: has shorter arms, and there's gonna be those sort of

724
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, banes. The same way we were DJ and

725
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: I were talking about that. He brought it up. He's like, man,

726
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: if bine, those arms are going to measure short. And

727
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: then you watch the post, you know, the playoff, and

728
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, that guy ain't flying out of the

729
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: top five. There's just not don't care how long his

730
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: arms are. Sure his arms are. But so I think

731
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: if something like that happens, then you stick and pick.

732
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: But otherwise I think you can trade back and that's

733
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: where you could bring wide receiver into play, you know.

734
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: And look, KeAndre has that speed, He's got four three speed.

735
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: So can you work with him? Can you get the

736
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: routes right, can you get the mind right? Can you

737
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: get him to where you need him to be as

738
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: a football player to match that speed and then you've

739
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: got about you. Then you've got all four of them

740
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: on your your roster and you're good.

741
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think I would. I would signed a

742
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: big name wide receiver free agency. The charges are in

743
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: such a unique position where Quintin last year was rookie deal,

744
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: Lad rookie deal, Trey Harris rookie deal, Aronde Gats rookie deal,

745
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: KLS rookie deal. If anything, I agree with you. You

746
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 2: go in the second and third round, you get another

747
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver, and you keep just kind of bringing in

748
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: these guys with high potential on rookie deals, and and

749
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: you know, especially it goes to your point about if

750
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: you want to pay Justin, Yeah you could. You could

751
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: pay Justin and kind of kick it down the curve

752
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 2: a couple of years and still have guys who are

753
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: performing at a pretty high level on rookie deal. So

754
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: any anybody in free agency i'd have to match that. Like,

755
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: is is Juwan Jennings worth breaking in over Quinton on

756
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: the number that we have quin Net? I don't think so, right,

757
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: So it's it's a great point. I think it's just

758
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: gonna go it's gonna come down to that in March

759
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: is And you know, there's so many different waves of

760
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: free agency too. Maybe there's guys who think they're gonna

761
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: get a lot of money and they're gonna have to

762
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: wait a little bit longer and the charge can swoop in.

763
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting one. There is Hollywood Brown, you know, four

764
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: to two guy and just dealt with a lot of

765
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: injuries in Kansas City. Kansas City loves to collect those

766
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: fast guys that aren't nuanced route runners that but you

767
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: know that's so like, that's a perfect example of a

768
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: good fit, right where this is a guy that you

769
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: have to honor his speed and he doesn't need to

770
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: be this incredibly precise route runner because that's what Ladd is.

771
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: Ladd is nails in route running and Q's pretty darn

772
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: good in those quick hitters. If you want to put

773
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: Hollywood out there with Ladd with Q, okay, well now

774
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: now you're kind of cooking, you know what I mean.

775
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: Or you can put him out there with Trey and

776
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: Ladd and so like, that's an interesting one. And and

777
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: Spyrock has them at what do they have him at?

778
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Like five million? Five point five million? There you go

779
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 3: like that's and I like the point you brought up, Chris,

780
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: like you signed Juwan. Jenny's okay, Well, now he's taking

781
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: snaps away from someone who's he taking snaps away from

782
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: exactly much like Keenan and Ladd. You know, when Keenan's

783
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: running all those short routes, those are short routes that

784
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: were lads when he put up you know, twelve hundred

785
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: yards and a bunch of dutchdowns and was on the

786
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: All Rookie team and was the second most productive slot

787
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: in football behind Ceedee Lamb. Like, yeah, we signed Keenan,

788
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: but that took out a lot of what Lad was

789
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: really good out the year before. So that's something you

790
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: got to ask yourself, you know, is bringing one of

791
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: those guys in, who does it take away from?

792
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: And is that what you want to do?

793
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: Like to me, I I think if it just to

794
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: kind of put a button on it, like if you

795
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: the best way I would look at Trey Harris is

796
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: if you were to let it be known that you

797
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: would listen Entrey. I don't think there's any question you're

798
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 3: getting multiples. You're getting probably a second and a third.

799
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: You might get a one, a late one, Entrey. I

800
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 3: think that's his reputation around the league already, just because

801
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: of how smart he is, how good of a blocker

802
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: he is, how good he was in critical moments. He's

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: that good of a receiver. Like to me, it's I know,

804
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: I always talk about Lad as a young Keenan, but like,

805
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: to me, that's sort of what Trey is. He's so

806
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: good at blocking, he's so smart, he's so situationally aware,

807
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: and that was keen in Superpower, you know, and also

808
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: just the ridiculous one gear speed that no one ever

809
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: knew what he was doing in his route combos. But like,

810
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: that's how good I think Trey can be. I think

811
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: he can be an exceptional receiver. So I'm not going

812
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: to sink money there. I need to sink money on

813
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: the lines. That's where it's got to be. And I think,

814
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 3: as crazy as it may sound, i'd like priority number

815
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: one is probably getting oh way back because he's so young.

816
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Priority number two and it's one in one A to

817
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: me is just getting that center man, get that pivot

818
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: right and get someone in there that you feel good about.

819
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Last one for me and we you know, we could

820
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: we could just continue this conversation next week as we

821
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: get ready for the combine. But at running back, are

822
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: you good with Keimani and Amarion Hampton? Would you bring

823
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: anybody else in? I listen, I think Kimani showed us

824
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: something right. He certainly showed us something. I don't think

825
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: there's anything wrong, especially now you see that Amarion has

826
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: had a couple of injuries. To maybe bring in a

827
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: third guy, and you could get running backs on the cheap.

828
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: You could get a really good running back in the

829
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: draft in the third or fourth round. Two. So I

830
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: do think bringing in a third back who can actually

831
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: be relied upon to producing games. You know, Haskins has

832
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: been so good on special teams, but I think looking

833
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: for that third back. You know, it's tough. You know,

834
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: Naji's getting little bit older and that achilles is it's

835
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: it's kind of tough to mess with. But I would

836
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: bring in a third back to maybe compete with KEYMANI

837
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: for snaps as well.

838
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, like the the a Ronde injury was

839
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: a complete fluke. You know it was some even said

840
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: it was kind of a dirty play. You know, he

841
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: just took a ridiculous shot to his ankle in that

842
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 3: Washington game and it was fluky.

843
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't solid tissue.

844
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't So like for me, I'm and and I

845
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: am it just I think back to that, you know,

846
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: from the Giants game and the first half while he

847
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: was in there of the Washington game, Like you're talking

848
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: about someone that can be the best back in football, Like,

849
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: that's the talent this guy has. So for me, you know,

850
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: Keimani's a perfect Hey, what do we need eight carries?

851
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: You know, ten carries?

852
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: Max.

853
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: He's good at catching the ball to the backfield. We

854
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: know we can track it.

855
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: You know, he's in a float money. He kept the

856
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: season afloat.

857
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: So and he's gonna you know, and and he's in

858
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Speaker 3: an exclusive rights free agent, so you're gonna sign him

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Speaker 3: for the minimum. I think you can even maybe give

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Speaker 3: him a little bit of a boost there and just

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Speaker 3: lock them up for a couple of years and feel

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Speaker 3: really good about it. So like to me, that's where

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Speaker 3: your third back, like you said, And remember they only

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Speaker 3: have five picks this year, you know, because they traded

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Speaker 3: their fifth for oh Way and they lost their seventh

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Speaker 3: for Elijah a couple of years ago, so you know

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Speaker 3: they're down two picks That's another reason why I think

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Speaker 3: ultimately they trade out of twenty two unless just somebody

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Speaker 3: ridiculous slides to them just to try to pick all

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Speaker 3: that up. You know, you get can you get an

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Speaker 3: extra day two, Can you get a high day three?

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Speaker 4: A fourth?

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Speaker 3: Can you get another fourth or something along those lines,

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Speaker 3: to try to build some depth on the roster from

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Speaker 3: those positions that we know they need, you know, guard, center, linebacker,

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Speaker 3: you know, with the age of DP. You know, I

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Speaker 3: think like and we know they're good at finding undrafted

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Speaker 3: free agents, right, you know what Marlo Wax did, what

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Speaker 3: Nico Eric Rodgers, don't forget about him at at corner

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Speaker 3: like they're good at identifying those players too. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm good. That was a very long answer to what

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Speaker 3: you asked. I am good with a rod Day and

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Speaker 3: Key Bani and then figuring out that third guy. And

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Speaker 3: you know what, I like Jared Patterson. I'm good with

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Speaker 3: Jared Patterson. I was bumped he didn't get more carries,

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Speaker 3: especially to the edges. You see what Kenneth Walker did

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, My god, run to the freaking

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Speaker 3: edges and instead of straight ahead like they did that

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Speaker 3: whole game.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's why Mike McDaniel's in. He's in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Saw good stuff up.

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Speaker 3: I'm good with him as the third too, Chris. I

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Speaker 3: like the way Jared Patterson runs, so that's that room's

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Speaker 3: fine for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, you know, it's a fun, fun

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Speaker 2: off season conversation. It's it's the week after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: We have so much to talk about. We'll dive into

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Speaker 2: what we could expect at the combine when we're there,

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Speaker 2: you know, for three days, going to do our our

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Speaker 2: annual kind of talk to everybody in Indianapolis conversations in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. But we'll we'll prep for that

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Speaker 2: next week free agency and anything else that may pop up.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll get this coaching staff finalized in the next

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Speaker 2: week and can maybe dig in on some of those

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Speaker 2: guys as well.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good, all right for mouddy.

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