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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield, exploming down the sidelines. He is hanging with

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Speaker 1: the voice presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 2: Harm day.

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Speaker 3: I didn't figure out what day it was having a

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Speaker 3: hard time. Ah, these days are messing me up.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You look at live at a very uh decora. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: pitching tints today. What's conuse pitching tents out there?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 3: Look out there, Look on the screen, Kurt looking live.

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Speaker 2: You want to raise around and stuff here?

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Speaker 3: No, he knows what a pitch ten is. He's got

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Speaker 3: five kids looking live at Tostitos Championships outside the Ford Center,

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Speaker 3: at the Star Frisco, where it is trying, it's trying

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Speaker 3: to befall, but it's just not quite there yet. Eighty

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Speaker 3: four degrees the highest, eighty eight, the lowest sixty four.

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Speaker 2: In the back.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, Chris, be Welcome back, my boy, Kurt. This

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Speaker 5: is Shennon and that's Nate as An.

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Speaker 4: And uh, let me say this rightful, let me say.

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Speaker 3: Let still go out area, hurry up.

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Speaker 6: I am something Peppa Poppy, the boys. That's que a

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Speaker 6: little brown people.

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Speaker 3: When we speak to each it every day by wing

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Speaker 3: stop or flavor gets.

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Speaker 6: Long morning, okayday ahead?

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Speaker 2: Were you busy?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Where you busy? As man?

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Speaker 4: I just been busier and Jesse park.

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Speaker 3: That's not me or my family. Oh that was good, good,

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Speaker 3: that was this morning.

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Speaker 4: What you got?

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Speaker 3: What's on your chest? You're mine?

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Speaker 2: Now, man, I thought about this.

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Speaker 4: I don't even remember the dude's name yesterday I got yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: just can laugh all you won't.

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Speaker 2: But my thing is this right here.

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Speaker 4: I called Shannon. I said, Shannon, you know what now,

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Speaker 4: we kind of asked for that. You know this dude

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Speaker 4: have been waiting two or three years to get in,

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Speaker 4: get it, get on the show, and uh, come at me,

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Speaker 4: you know, let me build everybody else. But then you

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Speaker 4: want to throw Shannon to come on at me, don't go.

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Speaker 4: Don't go at Shannon. Shannon is who he is. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: if you feel like what I'm saying is not appropriate

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Speaker 4: or not what you think it is, it's okay. Other

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Speaker 4: people love it. I mean you just one out of

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Speaker 4: a million. My brother, so call in again. We're not

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Speaker 4: going to computer.

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Speaker 2: Ride off the show.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what's not due to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, that's that's what I thought about, Like

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Speaker 4: we got a list, it's a consistent one that can't

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Speaker 4: call this show no more, and that.

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Speaker 3: He's back in. If Jackson can have Barrington, I can have.

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Speaker 2: Frank Barrington back in.

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Speaker 4: Man. I mean, uh, maybe maybe what he said would

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Speaker 4: make a difference in what the Cowboy does, but it

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Speaker 4: probably won't because you don't make a difference with what

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Speaker 4: I say. It's all good Barrington, good Man, good man.

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Speaker 4: You got your thoughts, and I respect that. I would

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Speaker 4: not go at you in a joking in a funny

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Speaker 4: way and try.

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Speaker 2: To degrade you.

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Speaker 4: And I apologize for saying the ignorant things that I said.

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Speaker 2: You have a good day now, and that's as nine, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 2: and sign it off.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hang with us, don't no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk so I can't talk smart football.

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Speaker 2: That's what my stop. I thought.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I thought it was great. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was we asked for the show where you can be

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Speaker 3: you want to if you want to call in and come.

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Speaker 2: At us, come on. I know that don't go ahead

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Speaker 2: some of the.

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Speaker 5: Things I asked her say, I'm I'm not apologizing, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shows not everybody, But you know what, as long

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Speaker 3: as you're listening, we get them clicks and views.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: We need come on, bring and don't tap my picture

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Speaker 4: yourself yea, mark yourself off the picture, lock yourself off.

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Speaker 2: But keep big new Yeah, show you kids.

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Speaker 3: There you go? All right, Well, fellas Kurt, give us

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Speaker 3: an injury update if we don't have enough.

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Speaker 4: And and the players that are replacing these injured players,

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Speaker 4: So go way.

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Speaker 3: Down the list.

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Speaker 8: No cooks in the kitchen here Brandon cooks out with

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Speaker 8: a knee infection and little operation surgical procedure after the

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Speaker 5: Which is crazy because no one heard about this. Like,

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Speaker 5: he's stayed in New York and it's.

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Speaker 3: Very strange to stay on a road trip where you're

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Speaker 3: so does that.

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Speaker 8: Mean it was team doctors? His own?

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Speaker 3: So his doctor is in New York that's why he stayed.

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Speaker 3: That's weird too, because usually you come back to the

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Speaker 3: So is it something that like flared up and got

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Speaker 6: Chris Beam you're the one that boots on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, notice anything weird? No comment, no comment?

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Speaker 8: Thanks, and just I don't know if this means anything

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Speaker 8: that Calvin Watkins is reporting the Dawn Cook is not

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Speaker 8: a practice.

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Speaker 3: Today, man, what is going on around here?

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Speaker 5: And so also this is to be you know, one

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Speaker 5: of the reasons why we probably this is kind of

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Speaker 5: I mightyed apologized for it. One of the reason why

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Speaker 5: we might not see Dobbin Cook this week, or as

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Speaker 5: Jerry already said, we won't see him is you only

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Speaker 5: get to bring up two guys per week from the

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Speaker 5: practice squad, to elevate two guys. So when you're thinking

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Speaker 5: about you already lost, you're losing uh Micah and Tank,

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Speaker 5: so you got to elevate some guys to help fill

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if there's even room to elevate

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Speaker 5: on your defense and now in your receiving room, which

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Speaker 5: probably means elevation of Ryan Floyd Noyd for the receivers.

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Speaker 5: And you know, if they're gonna sign kJ well they

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Speaker 5: bring him on for a roster spot and then find

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Speaker 8: That's true. Thought about that.

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Speaker 3: Very thin roster for it to be week five. Usually

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Speaker 3: this these are issues you have and they're a little

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Speaker 8: Guys, it's been pretty healthy here in the last.

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Speaker 3: Did you mentioned did you mention the names?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 8: What do you mean for this?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 6: What is that?

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Speaker 3: Jesse?

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Speaker 2: What does that do?

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Speaker 3: Real quick before we get into Cowboys versus Steelers? What

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Speaker 3: does that do to your receiver room?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 3: Like it was a lot of people are gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't doing anything anyway, but it's still your number

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Speaker 5: What despite what his productivity may have been, what people

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Speaker 6: Is there is a there is a.

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Speaker 5: There is a a value on guys knowing where to be,

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Speaker 5: how to line up. You don't have to direct him

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Speaker 5: to go into there. He knows coverages, he knows adjustments.

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Speaker 5: So sometimes not getting open is one thing. But now

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Speaker 5: I believe you're gonna move Jalen Tobert up to the

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Speaker 5: is like do I does he know what?

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Speaker 3: They don't have the trust there, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Like, does he does he know what the lineup does?

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Speaker 6: Are we seeing the same coverage? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And that that that has so much value of just

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Speaker 3: Worth these guys in Dak's backyard in the off season,

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Speaker 3: do they know where to you know, instead of breaking

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Speaker 5: So much man that like it's it's those small things

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Speaker 5: of knowing down and distance, knowing the clock, knowing when

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Speaker 5: is that safety doing Like those type of things that

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Speaker 5: that that inter working the game within the game is

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Speaker 5: you know, a god if your practice squad, but they

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Speaker 5: advantage had I'm sorry, but the advantage, advantage of small

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Speaker 4: Was getting number two and number three reps doing training camp.

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Speaker 4: And I know it's totally different, but they have at

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Speaker 2: Some experience in the game. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 2: this right here, number one, you and that's your man.

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Speaker 2: That's your man. And I'm thinking number one saying, you know.

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Speaker 4: What, everybody else may be a little bit down, but

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Speaker 4: he probably calling his mom and this and this girl

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Speaker 4: saying look out.

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Speaker 3: About to break out, Yeah, break out. Let me get

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Speaker 3: to the tickets on that plane, I hope.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep saying this right here, man,

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Speaker 4: it is a soft rebuild. And and those people over there,

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Speaker 4: the coaches, may be panicking, but I don't think the

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Speaker 4: right above out here, I don't think they panicking.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is here that.

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Speaker 6: The helicopters out in the field.

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Speaker 2: So he's here, he's here.

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Speaker 4: Probably here, probably bring in Kjo. He's gonnarobably have work.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, the work for helicopter ride news news. You

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Speaker 2: ain't glad that you know the biggest thing popping today.

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Speaker 3: It never to me. I don't know about y'all, but

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Speaker 3: it never gets old. See seeing when it comes in.

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Speaker 2: I used to.

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Speaker 3: I used to get up. I'd hear it coming I

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Speaker 3: no matter how many times I saw. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's because I was from a small town. We

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Speaker 3: had a little bit of airport. I used to go

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Speaker 3: watch the planes land in Monroe, Louisiana. That was my

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Speaker 3: entertainment when I was a kid. It never gets old.

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Speaker 8: Weird those guys are out there warming up on the field.

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Speaker 3: This is what we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: This is the spectacles the Dallas Cowboys, right like, think

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Speaker 5: about that. I'm getting ready to get rid of I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to get locked in and focused for practice.

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Speaker 6: Big game up.

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Speaker 9: Two.

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Speaker 8: For those that don't know that, helicopter literally land legs

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Speaker 8: like on the second field pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Twenty feet from the building.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what.

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Speaker 4: Ever, every was between shows ever since standing out. I'm

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Speaker 4: These guys are not on the same page. This guy

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Speaker 4: Numbers does not uh, numbers come from humans.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 3: Based on that, if the offensive line can improve and

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Speaker 3: start gelling and start.

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Speaker 4: I mean like this game, you mean this Giggs got

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Speaker 4: through this game. If it don't, this game is over.

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Speaker 4: So go ahead on this.

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Speaker 3: Could mesh into a better running game if the offensive

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Speaker 3: line gets better. So like all hope is not lost.

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Speaker 3: This isn't what we're stuck with you for the whole season, yess.

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Speaker 4: It will tell you and I would tell you and

456
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Speaker 4: anybody knows football. That's been the way of life forever.

457
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Speaker 4: If if you give any offensive coordinator four yards on

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Speaker 4: the first play, whether it's a screen, whether it's a run,

459
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Speaker 4: whether it's a short pass or sank, if you can

460
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Speaker 4: give me four yards, now I can dictate to you

461
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Speaker 4: and do anything I want to you, but if it's

462
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Speaker 4: three yards, you almost set on what you're gonna do next.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna throw that ball.

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Speaker 3: So this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people just putting numbers to it now, you know,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, everybody finding a way to get paid. Which

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Speaker 4: whoever came over the analytics thing that that boy, I

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Speaker 4: bet they called for a full.

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Speaker 3: All right, So that back that up before we go

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Speaker 3: to the next point back? What that thing up? That

471
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Speaker 3: point up? So you needed four to five games to

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Speaker 3: know what this thing is? Yeah, we're right in the

473
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Speaker 3: middle of the middle. We're right here. Do you think

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Speaker 3: this offensive line can improve this season? Or is what

475
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Speaker 3: we've seen through four games? What this offensive line is?

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Speaker 2: The two games that I've seen.

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Speaker 4: This this this team here Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: They got active defensive lineman. They got very very active defensive.

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Speaker 4: Rhyeman along with with a nice a nice linebacker. Man,

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Speaker 4: what's the big Patrick Queen?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: They see how he's skirting that question. Uh, he's skirting it.

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Speaker 8: This is a tough week to try to improve your

484
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Speaker 8: offensive line. They got one of the best defensive That's

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean just this.

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Speaker 4: When I watched them against Uh, the Colts and they

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Speaker 4: get the Coats got a nice left tackle, I mean

489
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Speaker 4: left guard Nelson and he was going against Cameron.

490
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Speaker 2: But they were battling like like Martin and my boy,

491
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Speaker 2: the big hog that used to play for the Aaron Donald. No, no,

492
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Speaker 2: the big dude for Philadelphia, remember Big Cock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were battled, they were man but they hold

494
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Speaker 4: they whole defensive line, all three of them, ninety seven,

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Speaker 4: ninety five, ninety nine. They'll make plays. They will make plays.

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Speaker 4: If you don't stay on these rocks, they'll make plays.

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Speaker 4: And then we ain't gotta even talk about number nine

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Speaker 4: ninety nine. That dude, he's active. He moved to number

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Speaker 4: number ninety. He plays within his His movements are not

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Speaker 4: sporadic where we'll see sometime number eleven, I take yourself

501
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Speaker 4: so far out of a play, whereas number ninety, he's more.

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Speaker 2: You see him jump jump some well, but he always able.

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Speaker 4: To kind of feel itself back understanding the defense is

504
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Speaker 4: probably what I'm trying to say. He'll do something wild,

505
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Speaker 4: but the next thing you know, he got a sack.

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Speaker 2: He already has three of them. The team has eleven.

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Speaker 4: But he's just so much more under control than But

508
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: he's been in his defense, but six years yeah, so

509
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Speaker 4: he you know it ain't like you know eight he

510
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Speaker 4: as a coordinator.

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Speaker 2: So but anyway, man, I answer your question. Yes, please,

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Speaker 2: this office.

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Speaker 4: Line got to grow up quick like yesterday, because right

514
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Speaker 4: now they're not very good.

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Speaker 2: They got to grow up quick.

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Speaker 3: So in the next week or two. It is what

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Speaker 3: it is. It is what either you're making progress or

518
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Speaker 3: that's what you're going to be this year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and and uh wow.

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Speaker 8: I mean we talked, we talked about in the past.

521
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Speaker 8: How I mean, you don't need five first round picks.

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Speaker 6: You know, you don't run.

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Speaker 8: And we've got two pro bowlders, one potential Hall of Famer,

524
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Speaker 8: another guy who's he's up and down. So you would

525
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Speaker 8: think that maybe a bit better than they are. But

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Speaker 8: these two rookies are dragging everything down.

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Speaker 14: And the other guy and you have there's so many levels,

528
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Speaker 14: like you're in the music right then you play instrument,

529
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Speaker 14: you play he.

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Speaker 5: Played an instrument, he got he knows one instrument. But

531
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Speaker 5: like so so so Chris is in the back right,

532
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Speaker 5: and we've all been in that office and you look

533
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Speaker 5: at Chris's audio.

534
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Speaker 6: My boy, Chris got audio, he got.

535
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Speaker 5: Levels and all that kind of stuff, and so sometimes

536
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: I talk louder than what Shnnon talks. You back up

537
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Speaker 5: off the mic. We sometimes don't get any words out

538
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Speaker 5: of you at all. But you're a boy, so.

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Speaker 2: A couple.

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Speaker 5: And so when Chris is working his boards, the levels

541
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Speaker 5: are all over the place, right, but he's trying to

542
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Speaker 5: balance it out right, You tracking where I'm going.

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Speaker 2: That's what this offensive line is.

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Speaker 5: He's trying to equal There's so many levels in this

545
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Speaker 5: offensive line, and they just hadn't found a way to

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Speaker 5: equalize it just yet. Because your left tackle could be

547
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Speaker 5: down here, your right, your left guard can be up here,

548
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 5: your center can sometimes be he could be toggling between

549
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Speaker 5: up and down. You know, your right guard is kind

550
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 5: of steady, Eddy, but he'll have his moments, and then

551
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: you don't know whether what your left guard is going

552
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Speaker 5: to be. So you're trying to You're sorry, your right tackle,

553
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Speaker 5: excuse me. And so now you're trying to figure out

554
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Speaker 5: how I'm going to produce this thing and make this

555
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Speaker 5: thing harmonious. But everybody's all over the place, and that's

556
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Speaker 5: the one place you talk about it fit like a glove.

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Speaker 5: I need all these guys to be able to fit

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Speaker 5: into this glove and have this camaraderie, this unison, this

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Speaker 5: cohesiveness that they just have not found. And it makes

560
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Speaker 5: it so difficult as a play caller, as a as

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Speaker 5: a play runner, and as a running back to figure out, boy,

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Speaker 5: where are the where the levels at?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 5: We run and left, But the last time we ran left,

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Speaker 5: my left tackle gave up. Right, last time we ran left,

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Speaker 5: my left guard gave up. This we go to the

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Speaker 5: opposite way. Well, there's no running. So there's this inability

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Speaker 5: to find the equal levels amongst this offensive line. And

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Speaker 5: when you have those type of gaps, it's just it's

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Speaker 5: tough to run an offense successful.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take our second break. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk more cowboys steeling.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that, man, appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: On hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 3: offensive and defensive lines, Baltimore the Ravens. They play a

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Speaker 3: three to four defense. That's the only other team Dallas

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Speaker 3: has played so far that runs a three four. The

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Speaker 3: Cowboys totaled a season high of four hundred and twelve

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Speaker 3: yards in that game. Are they better versus the three

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Speaker 3: four or was that just an anomaly? Can you be

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Speaker 3: better versus a three four than a four to three

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Speaker 3: just scheme matter offense like.

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Speaker 5: That, and a large majority of that against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna say they were garbage yards, but

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Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens have had trouble closing out games and

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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, like they've lost. They've lost seven

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Speaker 5: games in the fourth quarter when they've been up by

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Speaker 5: ten points entering the fourth quarter. So that was a

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Speaker 5: trend that they're trying to break. And the Cowboys caught

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Speaker 5: them out a good and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 5: a mentality thing for them, they kind of they go

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Speaker 5: up and they kind of just take their foot off

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Speaker 5: the brick mentally, because it wasn't They literally ran zero

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Speaker 5: prevent defense in the fourth quarter the Baltimore Ravens against

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Speaker 5: the Cowboy So it wasn't like they were just giving up.

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Speaker 5: It was zero percent prevent defense in that in that

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter. So that was carving them up and they

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Speaker 5: were trying to, you know, figure things out.

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Speaker 3: But it's more personnel.

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Speaker 6: It's players.

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Speaker 4: Don't when you run this type defense, door don't you

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Speaker 4: run a lot of zone behind it coverages with this

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Speaker 4: type defense?

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Speaker 10: Are you?

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Speaker 5: It depends because Baltimore runs three four defense and ran

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Speaker 5: against us.

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Speaker 6: They were high man and man coverage.

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Speaker 5: They were they were up over forty percent, like forty

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Speaker 5: seven percent man and man coverage against us. So again

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Speaker 5: it all goes back to the personnel, what the game

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Speaker 5: plan is that week. If I'm if I'm Pittsburgh this week,

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Speaker 5: I say, hey, we're probably gonna go a lot of

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Speaker 5: man to man and just we'll shade a safety over

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Speaker 5: to to Cede Lambs side, and we'll add we'll just

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Speaker 5: keep pressuring Dak Prescott and we'll make.

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Speaker 6: FLOORINOI or toll Bird will ferguson.

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Speaker 5: Someone else will have to beat us besides City Lamb,

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Speaker 5: like you don't. You don't have Cooks. You're gonna have

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Speaker 5: a young wide receiver out there. So I'm saying to myself,

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Speaker 5: let's let's heat them up. Let's double eighty eight and

668
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: see if.

669
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: There's someone else worthy enough to beat us, Because if

670
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: you're Pittsburgh, you're saying you can't run against us. You

671
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: got one guy that we're scared of, and that's eighty eight.

672
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: Like you said, Okay, somebody else come beat us here.

673
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: All right, here's here's where I don't like Kurt. I

674
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: love Kurt most of the time. But this is where

675
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: I talk myself into there's no way in hell the

676
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: Cowboys are winning this week, all right? These are these

677
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: are from Kurt. I don't feel good about.

678
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Any of this.

679
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's defense is second points allowed. They've held opponents to

680
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: zero points in the third quarter. Dallas has scored just

681
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: sixteen points in the third quarter. PFF has defensive Steelers

682
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: d line ranked number one.

683
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 5: The active boy they'll be without, they'll be without Alex

684
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: high Smith.

685
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: Okay, he's out number fifty six, he's out well.

686
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Okay, but Hayward has ranked the top lineman and what

687
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: the second on the edge. And then Pittsburgh's only allowing

688
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: three point seven yards per rush, second in the NFL,

689
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: and Dallas is thirtieth in getting three point five.

690
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: Yards versus the rust.

691
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: So if you're Dallas, do you even try to run

692
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: the ball? Do you just say you still got to

693
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: do it?

694
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: Right?

695
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: Yes, you do because right now, and Jesse, I understand

696
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: totally where you're coming from.

697
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: Ruh, I'm giving you the bruh, Bruh.

698
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 4: I understand that you don't want to run against the wall,

699
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: and this is a wall. But if you don't run

700
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: that ball at all and turn this kid loose on

701
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: the left ninety you do not, So you gotta keep

702
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: him in check, yes, sir, you cannot turn these people

703
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: loose on the left tackle. You're trying to develop this kid. Uh,

704
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 4: every game he comes out with a new spirit.

705
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Every game.

706
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: He's young enough and and and dumb enough to just

707
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: think that he gonna fix it, you know what I'm saying.

708
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: And he gonna come out with a new spirit.

709
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: But if we if we.

710
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: Forty five fifty times, you know this ain't for this kid.

711
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: This ain't not right now.

712
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: Even if you're keeping him in check it two and

713
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: a half and three yards a run, you still gotta

714
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: do that.

715
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: You gotta, yes, sir, back him off just a little, Yes, sir.

716
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: I either put Ceede Lamb in the backfield and just

717
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: run swing pass after swing pass.

718
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: Way has our longest rushing long rushing of the year

719
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 5: at twelve yards from CD.

720
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: So four games in twelve yards of the longest that

721
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: we have we have no no.

722
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 6: And for Pittsburgh.

723
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: And I'm a fan of Mike Tomlin, like the person

724
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: like I like Mike tomlind Like he just comes off

725
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: as like a guy that I would play for like

726
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: I would I would want to play for.

727
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: Have a Mike Tomlin story.

728
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: Okay, just to make sure, maybe you want to.

729
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 5: You about four what what I love what Mike Tomlin

730
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 5: has done with this defense. He's basically said, if we're

731
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 5: gonna go the Jalen excuse me, the Justin Fields route, Yes, defensively,

732
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: we have to do our may your part. I cannot

733
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: put the game on his shoulders. I need him to

734
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: be the ultimate bus driver, but I need us to

735
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: be the ultimate deterrent for us having to rely on

736
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: Justin Fields. So when you think about what they're doing defensively,

737
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 5: like they they've taken the they've taken a Baltimore Ravens

738
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: approach of you know, back in the Ray Lewis days

739
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: when they had what was the quarterback back then, the

740
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 5: white guy y No, no, no, no, Gil Dilford, and it

741
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 5: was like, listen, we're gonna get y'all sixteen points, seventeen

742
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 5: points and a defense like that's all we need. And

743
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: so that's the approp that they're taking.

744
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: That approach.

745
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: If you can go get us fifteen to seventeen points,

746
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: we'll hold these guys under that. And and when they don't,

747
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: they lose, But so I think I think that's going

748
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 5: to be the thing for this for this defense. They're

749
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: gonna challenge the Cowboys. It is going to be another

750
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: ultimate strain on the Cowboys to get anything going offensively

751
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: because they're they're predicated on we are going to be

752
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 5: the very best we can defensively because sometimes our defense

753
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 5: is our best offense when we don't have to put

754
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 5: all that pressure on Justin Fields to go and be

755
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. They they that that recipe

756
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: works well for them.

757
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: So my Mike Tomlins story, uh, I mean had toldal

758
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: the show before. But Cowboys when they played the Hall

759
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: of Fame game against the Steelers, what was that Micah's

760
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: rookie year, So that had been what four years ago?

761
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 6: Four four years ago?

762
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: They had this makeshift after you know, after the the game,

763
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: there's no locker the locker rooms weird, so they had

764
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: a step and repeat set up on the like the

765
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: loading dock, so all the every all the players on

766
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: both teams were walking out through the loading dock behind

767
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: the step and repeat. And it was Micah's first press

768
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: conference because it was the first game that he played

769
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: and he's up there talking. There's huge media crowd and

770
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin walks out and he walks behind the step

771
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: and repeat, and he realizes it's Micah talking. You know,

772
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: Mike is from Pittsburgh area, and so he the whole

773
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: team's you know, they're walking through to go get on

774
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: the bus, and Tomlin steps back and behind, you know,

775
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: out of the way, and Mike is up there for

776
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, five ten minutes and waits for him

777
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: to get through, and he says, young fella, and he

778
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: calls him over and he talks to him for about

779
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 3: five minutes and just you know, he's probably telling, hey,

780
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: proud of you, like they'll do your thing, and like

781
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: you know, and for opposing team's coach to like get

782
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: a rookie that you know and talk to him off

783
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: to the side like that, And then I just.

784
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: Thought that was really cool.

785
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: No, he's a guy's guy.

786
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: He is he he is man and like you you know,

787
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 5: you you don't when you can coach for.

788
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: That low and that consistent, it's unreal.

789
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 5: But losing record, never a losing record, but you've never

790
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: heard a guy talk bad about it. Even Antonio Brown

791
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: came back around was like, that was me, Like that

792
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: that that ain't Mike, that that's that's me. So the

793
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: coach for that long and never have a player and

794
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: more so have more players defend you and and hold

795
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: up your honor like that says a lot about you

796
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 5: as a man. And you know you can hear God speak.

797
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: I heard him speak on the on the Pivot podcast,

798
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: and I'm just like, I'll follow this dude, Like, that's

799
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: a dude that I'll follow. That's a dude that I'll

800
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 5: get behind if he says run through that wall. Yes, coach,

801
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: that's he's a dude that uh.

802
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: I'll bring you in the office and just whether he's

803
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: gonna release you or whether he's gonna keep you like

804
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: he did for Michael, just a little surprise thing.

805
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: He wants to always tell me that.

806
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: He won't do that what Jason did.

807
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 6: He will tell me that.

808
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: You know, he'll probably give you a better reason on

809
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: why they really releasing you.

810
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: A lot of times coaches don't want to get players credit.

811
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: We we count the roster quicker than anybody.

812
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: Free agent. Every week, man, We'll crown every two.

813
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: That was like the draft, I was checked, I was check.

814
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: No injuries affect us more than anybody. If you are,

815
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: if you're a fifth an own down guy. You checked

816
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: the Russell, you you come in the dough. Okay, all right,

817
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: right they cut a few, you know so.

818
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: But he's a new guy, he's receiver, quarterback.

819
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 4: And some coaches, I'm telling you that, they just say, man,

820
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: this is where we're at. We injured over here, we

821
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: we we your number, then fall the right way. We're

822
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: gonna let you go, stay in shape. Never know what

823
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: the next day gonna bring that fifty to one. Come on, man,

824
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: that roy Rosto. I don't want to hear that. That's disheartened.

825
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: When you leave back here, you know you ain't never

826
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: coming back. How can I come back to this? You know,

827
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 4: you know you want fifty two of me and you

828
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: see you need to cut the other fifty two and.

829
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: That and that goes a long way with players, right

830
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: Coach that just tells you, hey, man, this is hard

831
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: for me to tell you, but this is this is

832
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: what it is.

833
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: And then you know, and like Mike, like the guy,

834
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 5: like even leading up before that, he'll pull you to

835
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: the side and say, listen, brother, I need more from you,

836
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: Like here's the deal.

837
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: Like here's the deal.

838
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 5: You want to be around here, Here's what I need

839
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: and if you can't fulfill that, I'm gonna have to

840
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: replace you. I just can't keep you around if you're

841
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: not doing this or if you're doing well. Hey man,

842
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 5: listen boy, keep going. We need you know, keep going.

843
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: And that's the kind of coach that you appreciate.

844
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 12: Like like.

845
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 5: Players, we want more of the truth even if it hurts,

846
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 5: like I can deal with more of Listen, brother, you

847
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: just saying you ain't it. You you don't fit for

848
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 5: what we're doing right now. You know, hey, you're strong

849
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: in this area.

850
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: Man.

851
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 6: What we need right now is this, and you're not

852
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: giving that to us.

853
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: I can eat that.

854
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 6: Appreciate that.

855
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, Bill bell Check when I was in your

856
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: special team.

857
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 5: Coach, oh, Jody, Jody was like that for sure. But Bill,

858
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 5: when I went to New England, Bill was like, here's

859
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 5: what we need from you. We need that.

860
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: Can you do that? If you can do that?

861
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: And then when I got released from from New England,

862
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: he came in and told me, he said, man, listen boy,

863
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 5: we made a hard decision, but we're gonna use Anon

864
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: Hernandez as our fifth receiver. And we just don't have

865
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 5: room for you right now.

866
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: Same thing.

867
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 6: He's like, you know, we we like you.

868
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 5: We think you can bring some value special teams wise

869
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: being you know, that fourth fifth receiver. But we're going

870
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 5: this route, we're gonna load up on dbs over here,

871
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 5: and you just ain't work out for us.

872
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: And another another tumbling story his second Super Bowl. I

873
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: remember I was riding in Tampa and uh, because I've

874
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: never heard a coach say this, you know, And this

875
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 4: is when it started turning towards players running things.

876
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: And a couple of reporters say, hey, coach, coach Tomlin

877
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: such and such from whereverver?

878
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

879
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: The players say, uh, you you're much better coach now

880
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: on your second term around and say, what do you

881
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: think of this? Well, his eyes, you know, his eyes

882
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: them things with extra wire. First of all, let me

883
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: tell you something that sounds good. But players don't judge me.

884
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 4: I judge them.

885
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: I decide what's the best.

886
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: He just went off and right then, no more questions

887
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: about hey, you know, because media has a way of

888
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: trying to ask old, soft, nice question and leading somebody

889
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 4: down a rabbit hole. Coach took Coach took it right out.

890
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 4: Of their hands, and that's signed the message to the player.

891
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: He probably, hey, man, you know you don't give me

892
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: another one like that. Coach is at me, you know what.

893
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: I'm Yeah, and looks just like Omar Epps. Go look

894
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: it up.

895
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: Oh I can see that.

896
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: Ye, hanging with the boys is on Omar Epps.

897
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

898
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Derek tried to steal him.

899
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Man. I saw him buttered up to

900
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: him out of the camp.

901
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: Man.

902
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, cod got him.

903
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: He got him. That's okay, We'll take that. That hit

904
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: fellas good stuff. Hey, that was some good comments from

905
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: asinine dude. Let hey bring the butterscotch candidate tomorrow, Jesse,

906
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: bring the wings on Friday Friday.

907
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: To look out for the Chris Chris like Jazz did.

908
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: Thanks for the cookie.

909
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: That's not Josh fault.

910
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: Thanks for the cookie, Jazz, Josh. Thanks for keeping Chris

911
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: company in the back. Keep them doves going on fortnite. Chris,

912
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: what you said you had the biggest laugh? Yes, boy, biggest.

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Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow, same time, same place.

914
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 6: Well.

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00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: Yes.

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