WEBVTT - S3 Episode 3: What It Takes

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted is a production of Tree Fork Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Actual. I just said, I just say,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Drafted. I'm Steven Johnson, and in our

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<v Speaker 1>last two episodes, we followed two of the highest rated

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<v Speaker 1>prospects in this draft class, superstar receiver Davante Smith. I

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<v Speaker 1>never bagged down for nobody. I don't care who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>How I've always been scrappy and dominating offensive lineman Alex Leatherwood.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta move another human being who doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be moved from one point to another. Now we're less

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty four hours away from the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round in Cleveland, Ohio. The next step and Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Leatherwood's long term plan is finally on the horizon. From

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<v Speaker 1>mastering his blocking techniques to playing for the top college

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<v Speaker 1>program to learning multiple positions on the offensive line, remove

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<v Speaker 1>he's made has been a deliberate march to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a mastermind and planning and executing. The next

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<v Speaker 1>big step on Alex's master plan is to become a

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick. That's part of the reason he

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Alabama for his senior season. Although whether he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be picked in Round one or not is still up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air. In fact, it's such a big unknown

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<v Speaker 1>that ESPN's NFL expert Jeremy Fowler calls to Marius Bilbo,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex's agent at Clutched Sports, to specifically ask about Alex's

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<v Speaker 1>draft position. So what do I owe this honor of

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from Jeremy Fowler. Jeremy Fowler asked to Marius, if

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<v Speaker 1>Alex is going to be taken in the first round. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a question for us. All I got

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<v Speaker 1>in between and this. I literally told him, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge gap. Huge I got in between nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>forty and the range. And I say that because most

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<v Speaker 1>teams I've talked with Jeremy they only have like fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen first round grades. Most NFL teams only have

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<v Speaker 1>first round grades on fifteen or sixteen players. This year,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was no scouting combine, the college season was

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<v Speaker 1>about half the normal length, and a large number of

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<v Speaker 1>players opted to sit out the year completely. Scouts and

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<v Speaker 1>executives accustomed to making draft decisions with folders of data

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<v Speaker 1>and dozens of hours of game tape are now being

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<v Speaker 1>forced to do a lot more speculating a sure guy,

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<v Speaker 1>like for Leatherwood to be a guy that's a plug

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<v Speaker 1>and play guy. I mean, for god, say, he won

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<v Speaker 1>the Outline Trophy. He played at Alabama, he played at

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<v Speaker 1>the highest level of football. He played multiple positions, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they be guard, on left tackle, and the right tackle

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<v Speaker 1>too because he protected to his blind side. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always saw him as one of the top tier guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, so it has been not concerning, but

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<v Speaker 1>just I think people are reaching for other guys because

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<v Speaker 1>he's such a sure guy. He's such a short pick,

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<v Speaker 1>people start reaching outside of that and saying, Okay, every scalt,

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<v Speaker 1>every person want to be the guy that discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>next guy. And I just feel like Leatherwood is a

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<v Speaker 1>safer guy when you when you're using the first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick on the guy, you want to make sure he

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<v Speaker 1>can come in and play. And people always talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that guard and tackle, which can he be? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, look at look at the guy from Washington

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<v Speaker 1>redsk and that's just franchise tag. He was drafted from

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa the tackle and they slid him down and he's

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<v Speaker 1>an All Pro guard. You know, I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>least that's what you get with Leatherwood. Ironically, teams are

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<v Speaker 1>questioning whether Alex is too much of a sure thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He won the Outland Trophy, which is given to the

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<v Speaker 1>best interior offensive lineman in the country, and on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, he has consistently played at an elite level

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<v Speaker 1>for multiple years and has excelled at almost every position

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. So of course teams are doing

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<v Speaker 1>everything they can to p Coles in his draft status,

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<v Speaker 1>asking questions like does he have a natural position in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL? Is he a true franchise left tackle capable

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<v Speaker 1>of protecting a quarterback's blindside? Or has playing at Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>already helped him peak and therefore do other linemen have

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<v Speaker 1>more of an upside in the long run. It's enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make even the most confident prospect begin to question

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<v Speaker 1>himself and being an anchor on the line is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>not how Alex Leatherwood's career began at Alabama. Here's Alex

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<v Speaker 1>talking about arriving on campus as the most sought after

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line recruit in the country. I was bright eyed

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<v Speaker 1>and bushy tailed. Is that what they called it? I

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely that when I first got there. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest thing I feel like, you get such a

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<v Speaker 1>good player, you're like top playing in the country, coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school, all that stuff you think of,

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<v Speaker 1>how ship and then um season comes in life, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not starting this. She kind of like hits you hard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? At first, I was but

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and my felings. I'm my damn not starting to

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<v Speaker 1>not playing him just on the sideline bench warming and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex was the top ranked recruit in the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida and the top ranked offensive tackle in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming in as a freshman and not playing wasn't a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>He ever considered happening. His close friend and teammate to

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<v Speaker 1>rest Parks weighs in on some of Alex's challenges. The

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<v Speaker 1>biggest obstacles to Alex probably had to take on going

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<v Speaker 1>through this program and him executing his plan was making

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<v Speaker 1>sure he was consistent with everything that he did. Consistency

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<v Speaker 1>is such a hard thing to really do for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, especially at this level, and we're all human.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just the struggles with consistency. The initial conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>and physical demands also caught Alex off guard. It was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely tough at first. I graduated early. I got there

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<v Speaker 1>in January and that's when we do our winter conditioning program.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth quarter blare easily by far, the most harsh thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever done in my life. Here's Alex's teammate Jurez again,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh whoa who All Right. Running program consists of us

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<v Speaker 1>working really really hard in training. We run like crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's It's probably one of the hardest things that

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever done in my entire life. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm smaller than Alex, so running is not that

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<v Speaker 1>hard on me. But going through that program, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>that as I was going to die every time I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. So Alex, yeah, he's very much a hard worker,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is something that will fight your brain at

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<v Speaker 1>the core. College football fans have likely heard whisperings of

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<v Speaker 1>this notorious conditioning program. However, the details of the workouts

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<v Speaker 1>are guarded like a national secret. Here's Alex again offering

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<v Speaker 1>a low level security clear in summary, it's a funnel

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<v Speaker 1>running heavy lifting. Um. I know when we had got

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<v Speaker 1>a new coaches staff changed my junior year on a

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<v Speaker 1>new oldline coach, Coach Flood, he was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Y'all are like America's biggest cross country team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a lot of running, That's all I got to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Jarazz again on how challenging these workouts can be

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of your size. It's a level of not understanding

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<v Speaker 1>is this my body hurting or is this my head?

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<v Speaker 1>Like my brain? And I know that he struggled with

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<v Speaker 1>that because that is that's some ships. Sorry excuse my language,

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<v Speaker 1>but that program is some ship that that that we

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<v Speaker 1>cannot survive. You know. Um, there are many moments where

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<v Speaker 1>I felt as, oh, I'm about to stop playing football.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do this anymore, Like I was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>give up the entire sport at some point, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I was just I can't do this

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<v Speaker 1>workout anymore. This is it's really hard. But I've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>seen him kill those workouts at times and seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>workout kind of get the best of him at times.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be humbling for an elite recruit to suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>find himself overwhelmed by practices and workouts, many of which

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<v Speaker 1>are so demanding you openly question your desire to continue

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<v Speaker 1>playing the sport. And after each grueling week of practice,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex spent every Saturday watching from the sidelines, only playing

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<v Speaker 1>in mop up time to run out the clock. This

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adversity often leads to young players blaming coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>finding excuses, or even transferring programs, But instead Alex looked inward.

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<v Speaker 1>So like the first couple of weeks, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>for myself and things like that. But shortly after I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, let me clearly, I'm not playing because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not ready. I mean, just um self talking really like

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<v Speaker 1>licking myself in the mirror, having a tough conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>myself and talking myself through it, you know, live down.

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<v Speaker 1>While am I not playing all that type? Shipn't really

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<v Speaker 1>like me answering the question for myself. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>only answer, you know what I mean. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna fix it. So learning how to be like

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<v Speaker 1>mature and a grown man about my work and my

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<v Speaker 1>practice in my craft, Durette saw Alex's preparation and work

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<v Speaker 1>ethic begin to transform, and his master plan growing even

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<v Speaker 1>more detailed. The way that he went about that struggle

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<v Speaker 1>about like him always being his playbook, always watching film,

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<v Speaker 1>always making sure that he's up, meeting when his coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>and and making sure that the rest of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the line of doing what they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Like he chose to hone in on his

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<v Speaker 1>struggles in a sense and polish him to his best ability,

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<v Speaker 1>versus let them bring him down in a sense or

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<v Speaker 1>or really shake his world. By the end of Alexi's

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<v Speaker 1>freshman season, Alabama makes it to the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen National Championship game against the University of Georgia. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I was excited about the game. I had

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<v Speaker 1>all the faith in my team that we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job done and what they asked and

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<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff. So I wouldn't really check him

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<v Speaker 1>about the game. I was just uh grateful to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom was the furthest away from like playing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Alex anticipates having an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>view from the Crimson Tide sidelines throughout the night, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Alabama's starting left tackle gets hurt in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>As the injured star leads the field, the team turns

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<v Speaker 1>to a freshman who barely played the entire season, who

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<v Speaker 1>had no intention of ever getting into this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>who now has to step up with the national championship

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. Yeah, Essentially, he got hurt, and I'm like, damn, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I don't go out here and get my

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<v Speaker 1>ass whooped on national TV because this is like the

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<v Speaker 1>only game everybody in the country is watching right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a freshman. I think it's like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>first rounders on that defense like us, like it's too

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<v Speaker 1>really good as Russia's all the goods. And I'm just like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>these are some grown ass man. We just dude's probably

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<v Speaker 1>got children and ship. I'm like, what e team, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go get my ass whooped. Perhaps seeing the concern

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<v Speaker 1>and Alex's eyes, Alabama coach Nick Saban pulls him aside

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<v Speaker 1>and gives him a quick pep talk. He was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>take it up play by play, don't worry about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to last play, and don't be too anxious about

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<v Speaker 1>the next play. But all you gonna do is do

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<v Speaker 1>your job. And and we trusted you because we we

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<v Speaker 1>got you out here so you can do a job,

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<v Speaker 1>So do it. Basically, the bright eyed, bushey tailed freshman

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<v Speaker 1>is thrown into arguably the worst possible scenario, playing his

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<v Speaker 1>first significant minutes of the season in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of the National Championship game against the top ten defense

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<v Speaker 1>full of future NFL players. Alex breaks the huddle, settles

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<v Speaker 1>into a stands and the ball is hyping. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as that balls not on my first play out there,

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<v Speaker 1>all the butterflies are gone. Like that, it was over with,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I went out there and I was like black,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a dog too, you know. So we find them shot,

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<v Speaker 1>we find the dance from the tango, we finish, see

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted more? And you know what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was good. Once he got that first play under his belt,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex's confidence grew and if you recall from the end

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<v Speaker 1>of episode one, Alabama and Georgia take the championship game

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<v Speaker 1>into overtime. It's really a blessing because like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>would have carried on that season hill and sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>myself and not really putting the work in to like

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<v Speaker 1>be the best player that I can be, then I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have winning that game and lay the egg.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't. I went out there and I'll trusting

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<v Speaker 1>my train and trusting my work. The work that I

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<v Speaker 1>put in your ship, I bought out. He excelled all

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<v Speaker 1>the way into the final play of the game when

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<v Speaker 1>Alex holds up the pass rush long enough to give

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<v Speaker 1>the Alabama quarterback time to throw deep down the true freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, l up Deafantam Alabama right, George your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't stop his man, the ball never rives

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<v Speaker 1>in Davante Smith's hands, and Alabama potentially doesn't win the

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<v Speaker 1>national championship. He'd spent the whole year preparing for this opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it actually happened. He called the touchdown and

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody swung the field shout. I was in shambles.

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<v Speaker 1>I was crying, eyes out for life a whole hour after.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a bad award because like you're coming from

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad high school program, then as a freshman

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<v Speaker 1>going to the best college football program, putting in all

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<v Speaker 1>that work, you know what I mean, and even like

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scene when like you cannot playing and ship

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<v Speaker 1>and to see all your hard work coming fruition and

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<v Speaker 1>come to life, like I contributed to that win. I

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<v Speaker 1>helped my team win that and that's something that will

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<v Speaker 1>never be taken away from me. That ship was insane,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that them? Like that first one? Nothing like that

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<v Speaker 1>first one. Alex won the National championship again this past year,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't live up to that final play his

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<v Speaker 1>freshman year, and maybe nothing else ever will compare, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe his next life changing moment will transpire when all

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<v Speaker 1>his hard work and sacrifice culminate once again, this time

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<v Speaker 1>with an NFL team calling his name in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>something that he hopes will happen very very soon. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. A few hours after talking to ESPN's

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Fowler, agent to Marius Bilbo gets another call from him.

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<v Speaker 1>This time the call is about a new agent at Clutch,

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<v Speaker 1>not the players they represent. We are growing. I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you long ago that Rich was better than advertised.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows what he's doing and we have a vision

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<v Speaker 1>for the football side of Clutch and is shown on

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<v Speaker 1>this final day before the draft kicks off, Clutch Sports

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<v Speaker 1>announces they've signed agent Nicole n Yeah. She's She's impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>very impressive, and I've always been a fan of her. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's it's official now, so we're excited

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<v Speaker 1>and ready to get to get the building. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, Nicole has become one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>high profile agents in the NFL, and in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she became the first black female agent to ever represent

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten draft pick, and like Alex and DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>and many of the other players she personally reps, the

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<v Speaker 1>road to the NFL has not been easy. Here's Nicole.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in what I would call the hood,

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<v Speaker 1>a dairy impoverished neighborhood, below the poverty line and really

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of gang violence and a lot of crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Just not your middle class American family was very much

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<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to survive. And most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that I was surrounded with were black males that lived

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<v Speaker 1>that same life. Like our only goal was to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the hood. How do we get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hood? And some didn't make it out. My brother,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, was killed at one He was shot and

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<v Speaker 1>killed because of gang violence. Like many of the people

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<v Speaker 1>I was surrounded, I did not make it out. However,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them did because of sports. Nicole grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and attended the University of Oklahoma for

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<v Speaker 1>undergrad and for law school, and during her time there,

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<v Speaker 1>her career in sports came about very naturally. There were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players when I went to Oklahoma that

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<v Speaker 1>I knew from either back home or we talked, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I would watch them kind of make it out

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<v Speaker 1>and make it into football, maybe go to the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>for a year too, because the NFL's career link is

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<v Speaker 1>really short, and then i'd somehow see them like on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas break back in the hood, or broke everything that

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<v Speaker 1>they had for a couple of years, They're already broke,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could not believe it. I could not understand

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<v Speaker 1>it because once I was out, I was never looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what in the world, Like, how does

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<v Speaker 1>how does that happen? How do you have millions of dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just I could not make sense of

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<v Speaker 1>it in my head. But sevent NFL players within two

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<v Speaker 1>years of leaving the NFL claim some level of financial distress,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that stay filed bankruptcy, they go broke, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I tell my guys, I'm like, that's three out of four.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is no reason that that should happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was like my mission to help these

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<v Speaker 1>when I want to say young men, but these were

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<v Speaker 1>my friends. I got certified at. Most of my clients

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<v Speaker 1>were my exact age, these were my peers, These are

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<v Speaker 1>people I grew up with. So you hear agents or

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<v Speaker 1>financial visors talk about players going broke because the family

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<v Speaker 1>is like, you know, mooching off of them. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>though it's not just mooching off. It's it's survival. There

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing else. And so I get when the aunts

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<v Speaker 1>and uncles and moms and dads are calling for money.

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<v Speaker 1>I know where that is coming trump and I know

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle and navigate that because even just as

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer, I had the same thing happened. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL player. I don't have NFL player of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but even just as a lawyer of being successful in

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<v Speaker 1>that not the same same exact situation. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>able to relate to them on just again another level,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're from the same situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they got it, they understood like we we both

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<v Speaker 1>came from the same circumstances. After Clutch makes the announcement

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<v Speaker 1>about Nicole, they throw a dinner in Cleveland to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>her as the new president of football operations and to

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<v Speaker 1>honor their draft prospects who flew into town. This includes

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama received for Davante Smith, who was enjoying some bread

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<v Speaker 1>and butter at his table. But it's sweet Matt, we

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<v Speaker 1>will just call this. That's Davante's agent Kelton Crenshaw talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how he's receiving text from coaches and teams even

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<v Speaker 1>at this late hour the night before the draft. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>he just received messages from Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina has the eight overall pick and is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the teams reportedly interested in drafting Davante. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>game team's play as the draft gets closer and closer,

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<v Speaker 1>scrambling to do their final homework on potential picks or

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<v Speaker 1>showing their interest without tipping their hand. What you did,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. But I'm still pretty nuest you know how.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Maverick Carter, a longtime friend and business collaborator

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<v Speaker 1>with Clutch Sports founder Rich Paul and NBA legend Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship was right, but I was room for the

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<v Speaker 1>Did you kicked our show? How are you doing? Dog

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<v Speaker 1>for good? Yeah? Good? Cut that nervous entage so good.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter where you going, keep out in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and Caney, Yeah, you just don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, Texas too, Just like Alex and their teammate

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<v Speaker 1>Landon Dickerson. Davante is worried about paying too much in

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<v Speaker 1>taxes as soon as he enters the NFL. Apparently, the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Alabama locker room spends a great deal of

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<v Speaker 1>time discussing state tax policy in between crushing all their

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<v Speaker 1>opponents and winning national championships. So you want to be Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>say this, see Florida here you're staying with From my text,

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<v Speaker 1>I live in Kelly. I know where. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't try to come out now. It's like love and

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<v Speaker 1>literally choked the Brady like a month after day wanted

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<v Speaker 1>he was came at tam Super Bowl. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a good standing I like he likes you buying the house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what being up the top. It's nice time up

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<v Speaker 1>good meaning who what everything, appreciating food coming out, food

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<v Speaker 1>coming out? You are ye snake sound. Some people might

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<v Speaker 1>be impressed with these new celebrity circles and the late

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<v Speaker 1>night text from NFL executives. Davante Smith is not one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people. He's more interested in eating his steak

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<v Speaker 1>that just arrived so he can head back to the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I had a one something similar. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is personally you want this steak. He's offering his steak

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<v Speaker 1>to his little brother Christian because he likes the steak

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<v Speaker 1>well done and he won't eat it if it's too rare.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes a one sauce on it, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care what anyone thinks about that. He knows what he

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<v Speaker 1>likes for sure. He knows what he likes. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>we just like he's a very deliberate guy to be

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<v Speaker 1>so young. This is his agent Kelton talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>high level of self awareness Davante always exhibits. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>like one of these people that's just kind of like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He has strong opinions for sure. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like getting rattled even like will you hear stories of

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<v Speaker 1>like how during the season when like Certainty Bees and

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<v Speaker 1>like said things that are kind of quote unquote took

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<v Speaker 1>shots at him. Those were like the guys he had

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<v Speaker 1>like his best games. Generally, he doesn't really get too high,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get too low. He's a very even killed

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<v Speaker 1>young man. He's definitely mature beyond years. He just does

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<v Speaker 1>everything the right way. Man. He knows what he likes

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<v Speaker 1>and he sticks to it. And based on his two

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<v Speaker 1>national championships, winning the Heisman Trophy and completing arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>best season a receiver ever had in college football. His

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<v Speaker 1>approach seems to be working. So instead of a steak,

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<v Speaker 1>Devanta eats some mashed potatoes as Clutch Sports founder and

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Rich Paul stands to give a toast, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to you know, often time the only opportunity in

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<v Speaker 1>the time he was thinking about it fo way, So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say the relationship you all lot tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to be to Yeah for cold Heads

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<v Speaker 1>days are official your first day for a while. He

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<v Speaker 1>rather is to both Bill Hall and Kelton as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Smile all you guys who behind the other. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on the decision to bring the over to Clutch.

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<v Speaker 1>The coach great watched her a long time, inquired about

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<v Speaker 1>her around the league. Nothing but great things, really professional,

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<v Speaker 1>really good agent. We didn't hire her because she was

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, because she was a black woman. Hired her

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<v Speaker 1>because she was in a great agent. Unless she knows football,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows business. Male female, It didn't matter to me.

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<v Speaker 1>She belongs so I didn't look at it from that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to add to our group. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though Rich doesn't view her as a female agent, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>for as a black woman. First and foremost, Nicole's experience

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<v Speaker 1>working in a field where of the certified agents are

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<v Speaker 1>male means she hasn't had that same luxury in her career.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is tough, Like I'm a woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm a black woman. And then for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time, I was very young, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still pretty darn young. So for a while, my age

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<v Speaker 1>was always a thing. You know, I signed my first

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<v Speaker 1>first rounder at twenty nine, Like what I have? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty eight and I did one of my

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<v Speaker 1>first big contracts and my player was twenty eight, So

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<v Speaker 1>that was also I was like, oh, you're you're young,

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<v Speaker 1>you're under thirty year woman, you're black. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>always something like, for example, i'd run Clutch and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the agents who's amazing and has had multiple top

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<v Speaker 1>five picks and done all this amazing stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in his presentations, he doesn't talk much about himself. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, here's our company, and here's what we do,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about what we can do for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't give his resume, and I'm always like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you not giving your resume and show them

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<v Speaker 1>how legit you are. He's like, oh, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I was like, wait a second, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that. There's a difference. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go in. I don't walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>room as a credible person. I'm a woman. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>immediately know that I know the game. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend twenty minutes explaining I worked at the n f

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<v Speaker 1>l p A, I know the game. I'm married to

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<v Speaker 1>a college coach. I know what a four or three defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to create, set the stage. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and so, and that's a knock on him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's an observation, like, Wow, how different the

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<v Speaker 1>world is. And you know, it's like I always have

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate things very, very differently. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Just how different is it operating in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>pro football when you're a young black female agent. Even

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>something as basic as networking is no longer straightforward. You

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<v Speaker 1>go to the combine and you usually like you try

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<v Speaker 1>to take out general managers, to stay dinners, to network.

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 1>That's part of networking as an agent. You hit up

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, hit up a GM, hit up a scalt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to drinks, go to dinner, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for it and you wine and dine them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that. I can't call up so and

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<v Speaker 1>so GM and take them to dinner. The optics are there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it takes me three times the work to

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<v Speaker 1>build the relationship with the GM because I can't hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with him one on one, right, And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's little stuff like that that people don't know, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't think of. I have to be more cautious what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying when I'm texting what not. You know, everything

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I have to think about it first, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>does this come off in any way? But professional, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like none of my peers are thinking about that. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just doing what they want to do that feels right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to do that. I don't have that luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes the differences between genders extends far beyond standard

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<v Speaker 1>professional challenges. Seems will sometimes book reserve or did you

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<v Speaker 1>discount at the player's hotel as an agent, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>the team is on the road, so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>see your guys. And so this particular team had booked

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<v Speaker 1>my room for me, and I was trying to see

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<v Speaker 1>my player who's at the same hotels me, just on

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<v Speaker 1>a different floor. And the security guard, which was in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the elevator, like when I got off, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought for sure that I was a girlfriend sneaking in

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<v Speaker 1>and like literally escorted me out of the whole hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>not the floor, not to the elevator of the whole hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't be doing this. And this was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>early on in my career, so I'm pretty bold, like

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<v Speaker 1>that would never happen to me. Today I would lose MYSH.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the moment, I was just like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now? And so I'm trying to name drop

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't have my I D on me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I promise you I'm an agent. I'm you

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<v Speaker 1>could ask anybody just weird stuff like that. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would ever do that to a mail That would

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<v Speaker 1>never happen. And so one of my big goals in

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<v Speaker 1>this career in life is to empower other women to

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident to do what I do, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>do what I do as and be an agent, but

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable in their own skin, be comfortable with being

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<v Speaker 1>their authentic self in whatever situation they're in, be comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with being in a male dominated field, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for their seat at the table. I promised myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I committed to myself that I would get to where

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be, and I would drink every woman

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<v Speaker 1>that I could with me across the room. Rich takes

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<v Speaker 1>a more literal seat at the table, joining DeVante and

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<v Speaker 1>his family after everyone finishes dinner. He's recounting the trip

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<v Speaker 1>from l A to Cleveland for the draft this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids asked me, I'll be flying commercial private now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what are y'all getting this stuff from?

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<v Speaker 1>Taking now? Rich turns to Davante's father, Alvin Dickerson, Pops,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a question because he told me something at

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<v Speaker 1>my house. Is it true, jag go outside, take a squirrel,

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ain't carving him up? What comes from und? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from the country too, but that one said just

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<v Speaker 1>this out of the crazy. When DeVante and his dad

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<v Speaker 1>were in Los Angeles meeting with the Clutch team, they

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<v Speaker 1>told stories about shooting squirrels back home, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>how some people in the area eat them. They may

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>or may not have also mentioned being chased by wild

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<v Speaker 1>hogs in the swamp too. Like DeVante's agent, Kelton said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very confident and deliberate guy. To be so young, rabbit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an mind the rack suld friend. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>little straw, perfect, Dad, I was. I can think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you left, I've been telling my story. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>heard that, Yeah right, yeah. But I talk to Jeff today.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to Detroit. Oh cool? Did he like ship here? Detroit?

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Whistle riches, referring to cornerback jeffer Couda, last year's third

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick, who was featured in season one. I'm drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to come in at the morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna going to trade. I'm gonna gona trade me

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>in the morning too. That's DeVante's agent Kelton, asking about

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>joining his client for his morning workout. Of course, Kelton

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>might not realize what he's getting into, but I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>with this the long just up about it. Hit the

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<v Speaker 1>trade mill, then probably get the pool. Not at pool.

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<v Speaker 1>You hit that pool, you go out straight to sleep out?

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<v Speaker 1>Is over? Wait and you hit the pull with his

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>over with you? The pull? You my way? You can't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. The rest of the day and pool real.

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<v Speaker 1>So be there at six and pitch you in sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>start sex. That's fool having sex while you lay like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Davante is laughing at how shocked Kelton is about his

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>plans for draft day. Yes, he's waking up at five

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>am for a serious workout on arguably the biggest day

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of his life. And yes he could train all morning

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and still be calm and relaxed enough to take a nap,

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<v Speaker 1>dozing off while waiting to find out where he'll be living,

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>what team he'll be playing on, how much money he'll

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>be making, and who his teammates and coaches will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal people get nervous about every single one of those

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<v Speaker 1>life changing unknowns. Davante isn't losing over any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He already knows what he wants and that everything else

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<v Speaker 1>is just a distraction. Yeah. I mean I've been working

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<v Speaker 1>for this moment, so I kind of expected to be here.

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably worked that I put in just knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>day in the day out I've been grinding, So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I expected to be here. I expected nothing less.

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<v Speaker 1>Next undrafted, you know they're not just handing out Hodsman

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Trophy awards and outline trophy awars. I think a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that kind of got to me. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like what more can I do? It's probably like a

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>quarter of a mile stretch of land. There was a stage,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and then there was like a large area that was

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like green room pods. All of that was inside of

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>this tent area. To be honest, what exactly what he

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<v Speaker 1>said kind of a blur because I was just elated.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do anything but break down in tears because

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that plan came to life. It was just one of

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing moments to just be there and witness and

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<v Speaker 1>just be a part of them. I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're going to New York. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of like, we're going to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and is what it is? That's the dupe thing about

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