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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. We are malaising through another hour of

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Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for being

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Speaker 1: here with us, and if you want to call in

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Speaker 1: eight one hundred two two two eight two back of

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Speaker 1: this hour takes more your calls want to hear from

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Speaker 1: all of you across this great country of ours. A

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Speaker 1: lot of talk this week about elections, about voter protections,

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Speaker 1: voter ID and of course some crazy stuff said by

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Speaker 1: of their voting rights, that's the generic term that they

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Speaker 1: use for the federal government gets to be in charge

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Speaker 1: of all elections of all states and destroy federalism in

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Speaker 1: the process. If you're not in favor of it, you're

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Speaker 1: on the side of the President of the Confederacy for

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Speaker 1: an example, I mean, really ugly stuff from Joe Biden's side.

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Speaker 1: Not surprising. We've got someone with us now who has

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Speaker 1: looked very closely at the realities of election integrity, both

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty context and going forward. Molly Hemingway,

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Speaker 1: Senior editor at The Federalist, with us Now also Fox

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Speaker 1: News contributor. Her book is Rigged How the media, big tech,

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats seized our elections. Molly, great to have you,

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here with you. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with this one. When you're seeing the Democrats get this

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Speaker 1: whole mobilization going on voting rights, acting like there's one

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Speaker 1: never fraud and two endless numbers of people who are

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Speaker 1: somehow being prevented from voting, but we never actually meet

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Speaker 1: any of them. What do you want people to know?

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Speaker 1: What's the truth of the election fight these days? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think, first off, it shouldn't be termed. It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be said in terms of voting rights. Nobody credible thinks

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Speaker 1: that there's a problem with voting rights in a country

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Speaker 1: where more people voted in the last election than any

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Speaker 1: in history by a significant margin. The question is really

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Speaker 1: about who controls elections and how secure those elections are.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have spent decades really smartly strategizing how to loosen

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Speaker 1: security of elections and open up opportunities for shenanigans, shall

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Speaker 1: we say, And they have put a lot of money

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Speaker 1: and effort into that, and now they want to federalize that.

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Speaker 1: They think that what they did in twenty twenty to

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Speaker 1: destabilize the elections worked out well for them, and they'd

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Speaker 1: like to nationalize that and make Nancy Pelosi. The elections

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Speaker 1: are of the entire country, so it's really important in

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Speaker 1: this country that both winners and losers, and of course

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Speaker 1: that changes over time who those people are, that they

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Speaker 1: both can trust elections. It's actually the entire republic rests

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Speaker 1: our elections are secure and that people can trust them. Molly,

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Speaker 1: the whole story here is a mess because it feels

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Speaker 1: like Biden somehow thought his Tuesday speech was going to

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Speaker 1: gets kneecapped by his own senators, Cinema and Mansion saying hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But in a larger context, this whole story seems very

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Speaker 1: strategically failed to me by the Democrats, because if you

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Speaker 1: look at recent Supreme Court jurisprudence as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: all either. So this has always felt to me like

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Speaker 1: missing about this? Yeah? I think what you're missing is

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Speaker 1: that the whole idea is a long con, a long game.

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Speaker 1: They might not succeed right now, but what they're trying

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Speaker 1: another thing I think Democrats are pretty good at. They

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Speaker 1: that gives them the weight they need to push to

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Speaker 1: push for what they really want. I mean, everything they

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Speaker 1: author of Rigged, How the media, big Tech, and the

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Speaker 1: We're often having these discussions about one, the way that

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Speaker 1: even let's say five or six years ago. How did

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, and what can we do about it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because we talk about election laws, which were

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Speaker 1: So they started changing algorithms. They started de platforming the

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Speaker 1: the Biden family business, how it worked, who all was

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Speaker 1: involved in foreign entities and the big tech companies. You know,

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Speaker 1: brutally suppressed that story. And you know, again go back

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Speaker 1: twenty and it's just as so much more massive. Molly,

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Speaker 1: In a moment, they brought in a fact checker Reuters,

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Speaker 1: They are the official fact checker for Twitter. This is

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Speaker 1: He just yesterday said, yes, I ask you, my allies

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Speaker 1: a good chance that actually it's true. Molly's the author

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Speaker 1: of Rigged How the media, big Tech, and the Democrats

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Speaker 1: seized our elections. I'm actually about to buy my copy

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Speaker 1: in real times. I'm talking to you right now online, Molly.

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Speaker 1: Before I let you go, though, When people as I'm

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Speaker 1: and say that there was fraud in the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to them, Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty to be much, much, much bigger than fraud.

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Speaker 1: Dunbass or whatever it was. And so that this has

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Speaker 1: been going on for a while. You've had Ukrainian soldiers

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Speaker 1: in trench, actual trenches, trench warfare on the eastern on

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Speaker 1: the eastern part of the country where dun Boss is

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Speaker 1: squaring off against these these Russian back where in many

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Speaker 1: cases actually just Russian separatists who have come across the border.

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Speaker 1: So this is a this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: very serious escalation of that conflict. But that's been going

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Speaker 1: on already for years. And to your point about the

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Speaker 1: question about what will the Biden administration do, putin knows

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Speaker 1: what the latte drinkers in Brussels and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the EU will do in response to this, and that's

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Speaker 1: very very or the Hague really that's very very little.

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Speaker 1: They'll have conversations about it, they'll be sanctions, but Russia

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Speaker 1: is really too big to sanction in a meaningful way.

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Speaker 1: The guys in charge there are so rich. How are

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Speaker 1: you going to sanction them? As long as they're selling

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Speaker 1: oil and natural gas to countries like Germany in on

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Speaker 1: a huge scale, sanctions aren't going to cripple this country.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of ineffective talk. You're going to see some countries

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Speaker 1: on the Russian periphery, notably the actual NATO countries that

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Speaker 1: we have, right Ukraine is not a NATO country saying hey,

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Speaker 1: you better put more stops. Yeah yeah, and so we

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Speaker 1: need more resources, we want us presence or we want

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Speaker 1: additional help for our military there. But this is gonna

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a conflict I think could get

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Speaker 1: could get really ugly very fast. And now that that's

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Speaker 1: the general American I would say response. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: got out of Afghanistan after the twenty year basically disaster,

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Speaker 1: and we left and is dispirited and pathetic of a

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Speaker 1: way as was possible. So if Russia invade Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: we issue some sort of diplomatic response in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: other Western democracies, what's a worst case scenario here for

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Speaker 1: the United States? If you're projecting out how things could

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Speaker 1: go awry in a way, that becomes a major negative

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Speaker 1: because Frankly, most people in the United States don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about Ukraine. We need to get your buddy on

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Speaker 1: who was so good from Ukraine? Oh yeah, who's been

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Speaker 1: living there? Living there for you were gonna have him back?

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Speaker 1: For sure. He's in Ukraine still. He's been covering this

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Speaker 1: on the front lines. He was fantastic and trying to

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Speaker 1: contextualize why it mattered. But from your perspective, what's the

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario here? Worst case scenario would be that

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Speaker 1: there's some some consensus that forms in the national security

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Speaker 1: and international relations circles of our of the current the

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Speaker 1: Biden regime government, that maybe we do need to put

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Speaker 1: some US troops. The worst case scenario as you have

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Speaker 1: Americans shooting at Russians in any capacity in Ukraine or

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Speaker 1: over at least this is in my opinion, my estimation,

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Speaker 1: that's the worst case. I don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, less than a five percent

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Speaker 1: chance of actually occurring, very very very remote. But there

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Speaker 1: is going to be because for all the focus on Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: there are other places where there could be this playbook

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Speaker 1: run again. This happened in South South Ostia and Georgia,

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Speaker 1: in Georgia and Abkhazia, these breakaway regions again that they're

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Speaker 1: Russian backed. So what they do is they go and

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Speaker 1: they find areas of Russian speakers on the Russian periphery

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Speaker 1: Then the Russians deploy military force and say, we're protecting

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Speaker 1: And they call this Maskarovka, which is the Russian warfare

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Speaker 1: by deception, and they're very good at cyber they're very

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Speaker 1: good at picking people off and doing this, and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to expand. The Russians are trying to expand their

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Speaker 1: defensible perimeter against the threat of NATO, which they still

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Speaker 1: view very much Clay as a threat. We just say, oh,

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Speaker 1: NATO's a thing. They say, Nada was a huge military

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Speaker 1: alliance made to stop us, and we don't want them

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Speaker 1: on our border. At least this is what this is

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Speaker 1: Putin's vision and version of events. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: very very likely that you will see a major incursion there.

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Speaker 1: And now you're talking about you know, two developed countries

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Speaker 1: The Ukrainians wouldn't be able to put up much of

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Speaker 1: But if there's some kind of enduring insurgency that could

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody appreciate you being here with us.

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Speaker 1: We have Glenn Beck coming in at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour next so he'll be with us a two

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Speaker 1: o five Eastern on his book about the Great Reset,

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Speaker 1: and we're excited to talking about that, especially as you

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Speaker 1: see the Libs aren't changing their minds about all the

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Speaker 1: policies for COVID right all of a sudden. The control

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Speaker 1: that they've enjoyed is something they don't seem to want

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Speaker 1: to let go of, even though it would mean we

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Speaker 1: could all breathe more freely, stop worrying or being around

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Speaker 1: worried people less. And plus we have at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the next hour, so that'll be two thirty Eastern

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Speaker 1: Rona McDaniel, the RNC chairman, talking to us about should

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Speaker 1: Republicans play the presidential debate game the way they have

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Speaker 1: in the past, where you have Lib activists from networks

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Speaker 1: like CNN and ABC and NBC getting to stack the

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Speaker 1: deck in favor of the Democrats in a variety of ways.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all that in a second. Marv in

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Speaker 1: Southern Ontario, Canada has some thoughts. What's up, Marv, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: Shield High? There we go, Shield High, sir, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for calling in. Oh, no problem anyway. Um I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm great fans of both of you, A great fan

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Speaker 1: of of Rush um Buck. I love it when you

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Speaker 1: go on gut Field, and I think that if you

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Speaker 1: and Clay got on Gutfield together, you would tear it up.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome, that'd be great. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to go to New York City right

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Speaker 1: now because oh my gosh, that's right. But that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one day, Yeah, I smuggle Clay. I can't enter the

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Speaker 1: I can't enter the island of Manhattan or New York

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Speaker 1: City any of the boroughs. But otherwise, yeah, that would

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun be a bubble boy. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I'm just calling in real quick because I have not

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Speaker 1: heard any media attention. A very close friend of mine

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Speaker 1: ended up getting a Fiser vax. Two days later, he's

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Speaker 1: sitting having breakfast with his wife and his left side

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Speaker 1: of his face goes numb. Um, his eye starts tearing,

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Speaker 1: his jaw drops like he's um, you know, just got

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Speaker 1: out of a dental chair. His wife says, you're having

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Speaker 1: a stroke. He said, I'm not having a stroke. Um.

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Speaker 1: He ended up going to er. A neurologist comes in

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Speaker 1: and says, you've got Bell's palsy. And he said, you've

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Speaker 1: got Bell's palsy is a side effect of fiser now

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Speaker 1: I have not heard this on the media, but if

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Speaker 1: you go online and you look up Bell's palsy, your

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Speaker 1: first five hits on an internet search are going to

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Speaker 1: be Fiser's side effects. Nobody's ever said it, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for it. I haven't heard of that as

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Speaker 1: a side effect of the by the way, that's me.

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Speaker 1: That's me not disagreeing or agree. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard of that before as a side effect. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard of that before as a side effect for anybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I am not that well informed

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Speaker 1: on overall side effects from the vaccine because I didn't

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Speaker 1: get the vaccine, so I didn't worry about your problem.

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Speaker 1: Effects might be yeah, but we know that the VAERS

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Speaker 1: database is overflowing with people who claim that they have

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Speaker 1: had negative side effects from the vaccine, and those are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be investigated and determined. I will say there

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Speaker 1: has been a lot of discussion, for instance, in teenage boys,

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Speaker 1: about the impact of myocarditis. That's one that I have

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Speaker 1: paid attention because I chose not to get My oldest

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Speaker 1: son is going to turn fourteen this month, and my

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Speaker 1: wife and I have made the decision not to get

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Speaker 1: him vaccinated. Certainly, I'm not getting my eleven year old

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Speaker 1: or my seven year old vaccinated. But I looked into

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Speaker 1: the risk for teenage boys in particular. He's not at

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Speaker 1: risk from COVID from the vaccine. So I looked at that,

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Speaker 1: and so I would encourage everybody to do their research.

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Speaker 1: I think the quote the caller's hitting at is a

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Speaker 1: lot of media don't want to write anything negative about

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Speaker 1: the vaccines at all. One thing that I will say

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Speaker 1: I have noticed, and I thought about this because I

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Speaker 1: flipped on I flipped on Fox this morning. Again. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you'll see, and this is standard across all these channels,

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Speaker 1: you'll see an add for any kind of a pharmaceutical, right,

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Speaker 1: a pharmaceutical that deals with you know, arthritis, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be. And you it's always the same thing. Right.

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Speaker 1: You have people kind of kind of like dancing on

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Speaker 1: what does this have to do with arthrite? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could maybe arthritis actually does. But some

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Speaker 1: of these drugs, you're like, uh, apparently everyone's just dancing

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Speaker 1: in fields of grain and there's like sunshine and then

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Speaker 1: they do the thing. It's like may cause you know, headache, nausea,

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Speaker 1: a dizziness, painful foot syndrome like leaky got said, you know,

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Speaker 1: goes with a hundred different things. That's our norm for

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Speaker 1: all kinds of pharmaceuticals. I mean, even if you look

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Speaker 1: steroidal anti inflammatory drug, they'll be the may cause stomach bleeding. Right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times in my life, never

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Speaker 1: shut up about any side effects. You know, there's something different,

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Speaker 1: there's something weird about that disparity. Oh and they have

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Speaker 1: no legal liability for them whatsoever, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: also just it's the very antithesis of media to be

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Speaker 1: carrying water, which is what the Biden administration is asking

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Speaker 1: constantly to protect the people in positions of power and

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Speaker 1: their stories and not be allowed to challenge them in

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Speaker 1: any way. And again, I think there's a big difference

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Speaker 1: anecdotal story there is right, that twenty five year old

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Speaker 1: It ricochets throughout all of social media. Right, it's an outlier.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it can't happen. It means it's hyper unlikely,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that it can't happen. Right. And

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a difference between using anecdote to

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Speaker 1: that test. Sylvia in Spokane, Washington, Hey, Sylvia, how you

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Speaker 1: doing great? Great? Hey? In December? I am Also in January,

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Speaker 1: I went down to Fort Worth, Texas and back again.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a redneck redneck, but I'm old and I'm

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Speaker 1: a little bit feeble. And I was only brave enough

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Speaker 1: Can said, which would have been the second time, and

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Speaker 1: I said, this mask is useless, as Biden. But I

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Speaker 1: did get one hug from a stewardess major airline. Other

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Speaker 1: say anything, well, Sylvia, Clay and I are sending atastic story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fantastic, great stuff. Thank you, Sylvia. We've got our

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Speaker 1: buddy Glenn Beck going to be joining us in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Here's got a book on the Great Reset. What does

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Speaker 1: all the COVID fauciite madness have to do with the

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Speaker 1: Great Reset? Glenn is going to lay it all out

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Speaker 1: for you plus bottom the next hour. It's about thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes and change from now. Should Republicans take part in

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Speaker 1: the presidential debates as scheduled or do something else? We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Rona McDaniel about it. Stick around, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to Clay, Travis and Buck Sex to fund the EIB

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