WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Waffle House Index

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, sitting in for Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just cooking it up here. It's stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about waffle House here and there quite a

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<v Speaker 3>bit over the years, and I was gonna do a

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<v Speaker 3>full waffle House episode that was in the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe still, but maybe not. After this.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've taken a pretty good chunk out

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<v Speaker 1>of what would have been a waffle House episode. Agreed, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about the waffle House Index, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of interesting stuff about the waffle House, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that the waffle House Index is possibly

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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting thing about the chain. Of what everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the South or Southeast knows is twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven restaurants that are legendary for staying open against all odds.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of restaurants and chains may claim to

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<v Speaker 3>be open three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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<v Speaker 3>and they, you know, a lot of them are in general,

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<v Speaker 3>but the waffle House in particular prides itself and has

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<v Speaker 3>taken great, great, great efforts to really stay open like

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<v Speaker 3>it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>And as you'll see with the waffle House index, if

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<v Speaker 3>the a waffle house is closed, that is that is

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<v Speaker 3>very bad news for the area that that places in

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<v Speaker 3>because they stay open at all costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And they don't just stay open at all costs

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<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't care less about their staff and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just greedy and want to make money. This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>like buy design. There's a corporate many ideology, and they

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<v Speaker 1>work sure that the waffle house should serve as essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a community center during disasters. And during normal times they're

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<v Speaker 1>just waffle houses. But during a natural disaster in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>you you should just stand back and watch them go

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<v Speaker 1>because they have actual plans that the company has developed

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to stay open to serve the community.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, we're gonna talk about a few of

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<v Speaker 3>them here and there. One of them is they have

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<v Speaker 3>a limited menu and it's not like, oh, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we have on hand? It's like, all right, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, I don't know what they call it

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<v Speaker 3>on the inside, but let's just say like we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to to plan B or something, and that means we're

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<v Speaker 3>switching to the official limited menu when there are food shortages,

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<v Speaker 3>when the power's out and stuff like that. Most I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think all of them do at this point, but

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<v Speaker 3>most of them, and I'm sure they want to have

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<v Speaker 3>them all on backup generators.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been a thing for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you, you know, if the power's out, you

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<v Speaker 3>can still probably go to a waffle house and not

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<v Speaker 3>only get power, but you know, get a hot meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whether you're like somebody whose house just got ravaged

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<v Speaker 1>or a first responder helping people whose house just got ravaged.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're just hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really important thing that you just totally overlook,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if your kitchen is gone and all of the

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<v Speaker 1>other restaurants in town are shut down, having a waffle

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<v Speaker 1>house open is a really really big deal. And they

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<v Speaker 1>have like actual what are called waffle house jump teams

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<v Speaker 1>that can show up parashooters. They do parachute in, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope they have better names for these things

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<v Speaker 1>than play and be. I hope it's more like playing

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<v Speaker 1>Dark Star or playing Sorcerers Sleeve or something like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>better than playing be. But they parachute in, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will open a waffle house faster than you

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<v Speaker 1>can say waffle house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, hold on, uh faster than you can say scattered, covered,

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<v Speaker 1>smother and chunks.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I have asked you how you got yours?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get yours? Yours? Oh you do so chunked?

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<v Speaker 2>Is ham? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't eat ham anymore, but I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>to a waffle house since I stopped eating ham. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I always got it with ham, cheese and and sauted onions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I told. I mean, I just get

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<v Speaker 3>mine straight up. I'm the weirdo that gets unadorned hash

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<v Speaker 3>browns at waffle house. But I do get a double

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<v Speaker 3>order because I just two of those. One isn't enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I agreed, But I don't go anymore. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned on an episode last time I went. It was

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<v Speaker 3>actually with Hodgman after he went camping with a group

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<v Speaker 3>a group of dudes. Here on the way out, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, we're stopping at waffle house, right, and he went, oh, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We definitely are.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't go anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I mean, that was the only time I've been

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<v Speaker 2>in years.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I got you. I thought you were you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to replace that memory with another.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, no, no, that was just the year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just it's just, you know, I went a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in college, like you know, late night after the bars.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you grow up a little bit and

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<v Speaker 3>you realize you can't eat waffle House every week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sad realization. Everybody. It's coming your way though,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, So I said, we took a break and come

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<v Speaker 1>back and talk more about this wall Playhouse index and

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<v Speaker 1>what it is and where it came from.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we talked about waffle House being set

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<v Speaker 3>up with generators and jump teams and limited menus. They

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<v Speaker 3>also have temporary warehouses where they can store stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on that limited menu at least. And this all started

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<v Speaker 3>after Hurricane Katrina in two thousand and five. I think

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<v Speaker 3>seven of the restaurants were completely destroyed, very sadly. A

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<v Speaker 3>hundred of them shut down, but they got up and

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<v Speaker 3>running again very very fast, and the company basically decided like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is such a valuable thing. We need to come

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<v Speaker 3>up with that official plan, like a literal book of

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<v Speaker 3>how to open as quickly as possible during an emergency,

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<v Speaker 3>or stay open during an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. Not only did they come up with

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<v Speaker 1>the book, that's when they figured out, Okay, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of limited menu can we come up with? How can

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<v Speaker 1>we store it? They identified like local temporary food storage

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<v Speaker 1>they could use. That was you know, I'm sure central

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<v Speaker 1>to a number of waffle Houses, not one for each one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just basically ready. It's called disaster preparedness. I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea about this. I really just thought waffle

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<v Speaker 1>House just stayed out a state open just out of

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<v Speaker 1>sheer will until I researched this. But they have a

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<v Speaker 1>disaster preparedness plan, and apparently other companies do in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States too, like Lows and Home Depot will because

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<v Speaker 1>people need lumber and shovels and hammers and stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>there's blue away and they need to rebuild, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>also more like generators and gas cans and so on

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. I don't know why I'm staying on

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<v Speaker 1>this list, but waffle House isn't the only one. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're just part of a handful of companies who've essentially

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<v Speaker 1>made themselves like de facto essential operations for post disaster

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<v Speaker 1>preparedness stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, which leads us finally to the waffle

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<v Speaker 3>House Index, which is a pretty unique thing. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the brainchild of a guy named Craig Fugate who was

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<v Speaker 3>the FEMA administrator back in the early twenty tens, and

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<v Speaker 3>he had that position after the Joplin tornado of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eleven in May of that year, and he had kind

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<v Speaker 3>of had this idea for a little while because he

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<v Speaker 3>had noticed after various hurricanes at waffle house was one of,

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<v Speaker 3>if not the only thing open, And he started to

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<v Speaker 3>notice this sort of trend like, hey, your community doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have water.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have power, yet the waffle house was open.

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<v Speaker 3>And he started looking at maps and realized that, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if you actually look at where the weather hit the

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<v Speaker 3>hardest and the damage was the most severe, you can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of rate that according to whether or not that

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<v Speaker 3>waffle house is either open, closed, or serving a full menu,

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<v Speaker 3>limited menu, and just how they're doing. And he really,

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<v Speaker 3>like that was sort of like the light bulb above

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<v Speaker 3>the head moment when he said this could be a

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<v Speaker 3>real thing. The waffle House Index could really help us out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean it's as simple as like calling

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<v Speaker 1>the local waffle house in Tampa after a hurricane just

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<v Speaker 1>passed through and saying, are you guys still open? And

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't answer the phone, there's trouble in that community.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was saying, like, that's where FEMA should start

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<v Speaker 1>sending its people first, because that's as bad as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>If the waffle house isn't open and they actually color

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<v Speaker 1>coded it, there's green as the best part of the index.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that your waffle house is totally fine. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a cracked window, but everything else is good

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone in the community can come there. Yellow has

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<v Speaker 1>a limited menu and they're probably using a generator. And

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<v Speaker 1>then red is like it's closed. The waffle house is

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<v Speaker 1>toast come here because this is the community that's hardest hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how like dedicated waffle house is to staying open

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<v Speaker 1>that if they're closed, FEMA knows that that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>should go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you don't get the red index a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>again if you do, then that's you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>really bad sign. If you know they know a hurricane

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that is coming and they like there's

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<v Speaker 3>evacuation orders and stuff like that. You you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>it's mandatory. A waffle house might close, but the very

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<v Speaker 3>first chance they get to open that thing up, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to open it back up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There's this really great story I read on the

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<v Speaker 1>waffle house blog welled in North Carolina back in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurricane Irene passed through there and the waffle house, the

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<v Speaker 1>local waffle house lost its power, but the gas was

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<v Speaker 1>still going to the grill, and so it's the waffle

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<v Speaker 1>house stayed open and was cooking for people as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it was light enough for them to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing. And then it just became too dark

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<v Speaker 1>to keep going. They closed and then opened at first

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<v Speaker 1>light at dawn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved that story, but I was so ready when

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading it to hear they cooked by candlelight

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<v Speaker 3>through the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sorry, sorry, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I expected them to.

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<v Speaker 3>I just that would have been even more amazing, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe also dangerous, so that that might have had something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with it, or maybe they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just didn't have candles. And then the waffle house employee,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the manual afterward, it was like, by candles. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you of planting candles. We learned from Hurricane Irene.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up by the way, I tried to find

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<v Speaker 2>that they have.

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<v Speaker 3>A a mobile emergency What is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a it's like an RV, like a command center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the only thing I could find looked like

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<v Speaker 3>a food truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I tried to find a picture and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It just kept showing me this food truck, and I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't When it was called the command center, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>is it dressed to look like a waffle house? Because

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like a little tiny waffle house, does it?

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<v Speaker 3>And is there like communications inside or are they showing

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<v Speaker 3>up and cooking like I couldn't. I couldn't figure that

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<v Speaker 3>part out.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is a food truck though, there's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance that they're serving mpanjadas right, even from the

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<v Speaker 1>waffle house food truck. But they have a great nickname

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<v Speaker 1>for it though, at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, what was from Stripes? What would they call it?

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<v Speaker 1>The EM fifty, which is apparently the assault vehicle that

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray drives in Stripes? Was the EM fifty. I

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<v Speaker 1>never got into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie, like liked it or saw it all the way

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<v Speaker 2>through it?

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<v Speaker 1>Saw it all the way through?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Stripes is great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a movie in two parts, so the

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<v Speaker 3>first half is a lot better than when they.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on the mission in the RV.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. Okay, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, not the best movie in the world. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love Harold Ramis.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, of course, I feel like it might have

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<v Speaker 1>just been a couple of years ahead of me. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, I was more a meat for guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't allowed to watch any of that at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had to sneak it a little later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know how I was allowed to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Meatballs because I was never allowed to watch Porky's or

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<v Speaker 1>just about anything. My mom wouldn't even let me watch

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<v Speaker 1>Sanford and Son. Because she thought Red Fox is a

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<v Speaker 1>dirty old man.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it wasn't that funny. When you're a kid

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to watch Sanford and Son, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>funny at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I did learned two things about your mom this week.

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<v Speaker 3>That and that she played the banjo, which just floors

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<v Speaker 3>me how cool that is.

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<v Speaker 1>She loved playing the banjo. I love that, And I

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<v Speaker 1>love the waffle House index and waffle House didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor this. Everybody. That's just how impressed we are with

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<v Speaker 1>the waffle House Index. I always thought it was just

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<v Speaker 1>some fooling around pop culture thing. Nope, it's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you've never been, if you're ever in the South,

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<v Speaker 3>go check out a waffle house and the coolest, most awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>fun people work there. And you might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get into a fistfight with Kid Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know, Yeah, there's a pretty good chance you will.

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