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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, sitting in for Dave,

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Speaker 1: and we're just cooking it up here. It's stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about waffle House here and there quite a

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Speaker 3: bit over the years, and I was gonna do a

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Speaker 2: Maybe still, but maybe not. After this.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've taken a pretty good chunk out

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Speaker 1: of what would have been a waffle House episode. Agreed, Well,

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Speaker 1: because we're talking about the waffle House Index, and yes,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of interesting stuff about the waffle House, but

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the waffle House Index is possibly

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Speaker 1: the most interesting thing about the chain. Of what everyone

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Speaker 1: in the South or Southeast knows is twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven restaurants that are legendary for staying open against all odds.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of restaurants and chains may claim to

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Speaker 3: be open three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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Speaker 3: and they, you know, a lot of them are in general,

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Speaker 3: but the waffle House in particular prides itself and has

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Speaker 3: taken great, great, great efforts to really stay open like

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Speaker 3: it's got to be.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: And as you'll see with the waffle House index, if

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Speaker 3: the a waffle house is closed, that is that is

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Speaker 3: very bad news for the area that that places in

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Speaker 3: because they stay open at all costs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And they don't just stay open at all costs

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Speaker 1: because they couldn't care less about their staff and they're

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Speaker 1: just greedy and want to make money. This is actually

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Speaker 1: like buy design. There's a corporate many ideology, and they

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Speaker 1: work sure that the waffle house should serve as essentially

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Speaker 1: a community center during disasters. And during normal times they're

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Speaker 1: just waffle houses. But during a natural disaster in particular,

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Speaker 1: you you should just stand back and watch them go

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Speaker 1: because they have actual plans that the company has developed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, we're gonna talk about a few of

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Speaker 3: to you know, I don't know what they call it

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Speaker 3: to to plan B or something, and that means we're

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Speaker 3: switching to the official limited menu when there are food shortages,

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Speaker 3: when the power's out and stuff like that. Most I

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Speaker 3: don't think all of them do at this point, but

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Speaker 3: most of them, and I'm sure they want to have

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Speaker 2: That's been a thing for a while.

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Speaker 3: So if you, you know, if the power's out, you

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Speaker 3: can still probably go to a waffle house and not

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Speaker 3: only get power, but you know, get a hot meal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whether you're like somebody whose house just got ravaged

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're just hungry.

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Speaker 1: It's a really important thing that you just totally overlook,

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Speaker 1: have like actual what are called waffle house jump teams

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Speaker 1: and I hope they have better names for these things

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Speaker 1: than play and be. I hope it's more like playing

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Speaker 1: Dark Star or playing Sorcerers Sleeve or something like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: better than playing be. But they parachute in, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, uh faster than you can say scattered, covered,

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Speaker 2: I know I have asked you how you got yours?

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Speaker 2: How do you get yours? Yours? Oh you do so chunked?

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Speaker 2: Is ham? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't eat ham anymore, but I haven't been

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Speaker 1: And you don't go anymore.

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Speaker 1: I see, I got you. I thought you were you

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, that was just the year

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Speaker 3: But I just it's just, you know, I went a

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Speaker 3: But you know, you grow up a little bit and

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Speaker 3: you realize you can't eat waffle House every week.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 2: It's a sad realization. Everybody. It's coming your way though,

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Speaker 1: Yep, So I said, we took a break and come

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Speaker 1: back and talk more about this wall Playhouse index and

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we talked about waffle House being set

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Speaker 3: seven of the restaurants were completely destroyed, very sadly. A

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Not only did they come up with

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Speaker 1: we store it? They identified like local temporary food storage

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, which leads us finally to the waffle

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Speaker 2: You don't have power, yet the waffle house was open.

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Speaker 3: And he started looking at maps and realized that, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean it's as simple as like calling

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Speaker 1: And he was saying, like, that's where FEMA should start

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Speaker 1: If the waffle house isn't open and they actually color

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Speaker 1: It means that your waffle house is totally fine. Maybe

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Speaker 1: then red is like it's closed. The waffle house is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's this really great story I read on the

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Speaker 1: waffle house blog welled in North Carolina back in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: Hurricane Irene passed through there and the waffle house, the

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Speaker 3: I loved that story, but I was so ready when

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, sorry, Chuck.

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Speaker 3: I just that would have been even more amazing, but

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Speaker 1: Just didn't have candles. And then the waffle house employee,

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Speaker 1: they're the manual afterward, it was like, by candles. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you of planting candles. We learned from Hurricane Irene.

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Speaker 1: Like a it's like an RV, like a command center.

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Speaker 3: I mean I tried to find a picture and everything.

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Speaker 3: And is there like communications inside or are they showing

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Speaker 1: If it is a food truck though, there's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent chance that they're serving mpanjadas right, even from the

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Speaker 1: waffle house food truck. But they have a great nickname

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, what was from Stripes? What would they call it?

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Speaker 1: Bill Murray drives in Stripes? Was the EM fifty. I

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Speaker 1: Saw it all the way through?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Stripes is great.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a movie in two parts, so the

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Speaker 3: first half is a lot better than when they.

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Speaker 2: Go on the mission in the RV.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, not the best movie in the world. But I

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Speaker 1: I was younger, I was more a meat for guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't allowed to watch any of that at the time,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how I was allowed to watch

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Speaker 1: Sanford and Son. Because she thought Red Fox is a

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Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: and you want to watch Sanford and Son, it's not

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Speaker 3: I did learned two things about your mom this week.

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Speaker 3: That and that she played the banjo, which just floors

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Speaker 1: She loved playing the banjo. I love that, And I

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Speaker 1: love the waffle House index and waffle House didn't even

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Speaker 1: sponsor this. Everybody. That's just how impressed we are with

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Speaker 1: the waffle House Index. I always thought it was just

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Speaker 1: some fooling around pop culture thing. Nope, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've never been, if you're ever in the South,

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Speaker 3: go check out a waffle house and the coolest, most awesome,

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Speaker 3: fun people work there. And you might be able to

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Speaker 3: get into a fistfight with Kid Rock.

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Speaker 1: You never know, Yeah, there's a pretty good chance you will.

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